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Posted to users@httpd.apache.org by Nathan Butcher <na...@newson.co.jp> on 2003/06/03 08:39:17 UTC
[users@httpd] Beginner's test problem
Hi,
I'm a newbie user with Apache 2.0 running off Red-Hat 9, and I'm trying to
set it up as a test web-server. At the moment, it is connected to a client
running Win2000. The connections are fine, and both server and client are
pinging each other nicely. A sample webpage has been placed in
/var/www/html/ on the server (and the config file has been set to see it).
In fact, I've barely touched the httpd config file at all, other than to
check the IP address and where the web page is supposed to sit.
The Win 2000 client's TCP/IP properties has been set to the server's IP
address.
After "apachectl start" is issued, the client tries to access the server's
IP address to see the test web page, but it times out and displays nothing.
The connection *seems* to be working and trying to read the webpage, but it
eventually gives up and says "Page not found". I can't see anything in the
access_log, but the error_log is repeatedly mentioning something about a
"Child process XXXX still did not exist, sending a SIGTERM"
Since I'm a total newbie and pretty clueless so far, is there anythign else
that I have to configure, or is there something very important that I
haven't taken into consideration at all?
I'm stumped.
Thanks,
Re: [users@httpd] Beginner's test problem
Posted by Luis Moreira <la...@bes.pt>.
The client is W2k, right ?
Go to "c:\winnt\system32\drivers\etc" and there edit the file LMHOSTS (no
extension).
This is your "local DNS".
Add a line like this
A.B.C.D name
where "A.B.C.D" and "name" stand for the ip address and URL in your case.
That, or install a simple DNS server on the RedHat box, and point DNS
resolution on the client to that machine...
Luis
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From: "Nathan Butcher" <na...@newson.co.jp>
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Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Beginner's test problem
> That's right, it doesn't resolve to the IP address.
> ....and the usual ways to do this are......?! ;)
>
> I have no idea about how to go about setting it to resolve to the IP.
Where
> do I start?
>
>
> > Does the name resolve to the IP address (either in DNS or, if just
> > running locally, in your /etc/hosts file)? Putting a server name in your
> > Apache configuration does not make that name resolve to your IP address.
> > That still must be done via the usual ways.
>
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Re: [users@httpd] Beginner's test problem
Posted by Jean-Rene Cormier <je...@cipanb.ca>.
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 07:49, Nathan Butcher wrote:
> That's right, it doesn't resolve to the IP address.
> ....and the usual ways to do this are......?! ;)
>
> I have no idea about how to go about setting it to resolve to the IP. Where
> do I start?
>
Check out the DNS HOWTO and the bind documentation, that will give you a
good start.
Jean-Rene Cormier
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Re: [users@httpd] Beginner's test problem
Posted by Nathan Butcher <na...@newson.co.jp>.
That's right, it doesn't resolve to the IP address.
....and the usual ways to do this are......?! ;)
I have no idea about how to go about setting it to resolve to the IP. Where
do I start?
> Does the name resolve to the IP address (either in DNS or, if just
> running locally, in your /etc/hosts file)? Putting a server name in your
> Apache configuration does not make that name resolve to your IP address.
> That still must be done via the usual ways.
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Re: [users@httpd] Beginner's test problem
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Nathan Butcher wrote:
> I solved the connection problem..... Red Hat's firewall settings were
> blocking the connection, so that solved that problem.
>
> However..... now I have adjusted the ServerName settings from an IP address
> to a www.test.com address, and it won't load. However, when I point the
> client browser towards the IP number, the page loads OK.
Does the name resolve to the IP address (either in DNS or, if just
running locally, in your /etc/hosts file)? Putting a server name in your
Apache configuration does not make that name resolve to your IP address.
That still must be done via the usual ways.
--
Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com
... and another brother out of his mind, and another brother out at New
York (not the same, though it might appear so)
Somebody's Luggage (Charles Dickens)
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Re: [users@httpd] Beginner's test problem
Posted by Nathan Butcher <na...@newson.co.jp>.
Yes, I know. This is what I'm trying to do. But because I am completely new
to all of this, so far it's taken me all day to get this far.
the server is standalone and not connected the the internet, so some basic
DNS functionality would be nice. How do I pull that off?
(I think I'm going to have a lie-down!)
Thanks,
> The firewall part was my next question.
> Good for you that you figured it out yourself.
>
> As to the www vs ip, that spells "DNS" all over !!!
>
> Luis
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Re: [users@httpd] Beginner's test problem
Posted by Luis Moreira <la...@bes.pt>.
The firewall part was my next question.
Good for you that you figured it out yourself.
As to the www vs ip, that spells "DNS" all over !!!
Luis
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From: "Nathan Butcher" <na...@newson.co.jp>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Beginner's test problem
> I solved the connection problem..... Red Hat's firewall settings were
> blocking the connection, so that solved that problem.
>
> However..... now I have adjusted the ServerName settings from an IP
address
> to a www.test.com address, and it won't load. However, when I point the
> client browser towards the IP number, the page loads OK.
>
> What gives?
>
>
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Re: [users@httpd] Beginner's test problem
Posted by Nathan Butcher <na...@newson.co.jp>.
I solved the connection problem..... Red Hat's firewall settings were
blocking the connection, so that solved that problem.
However..... now I have adjusted the ServerName settings from an IP address
to a www.test.com address, and it won't load. However, when I point the
client browser towards the IP number, the page loads OK.
What gives?
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Re: [users@httpd] Beginner's test problem
Posted by Nathan Butcher <na...@newson.co.jp>.
Ok, did that.... but the apache directory isn't in usr at all. This may be
because I'm running Apache 2.0 on the server (which is actually a
clapped-out Pentium with a network card) and the install may be different I
guess....
I noticed apache running when I did ps -e.... seems to be going.... the
error log for Apache reports starting up and shutting down.
Telnet.... that isn't going. The client cannot telnet the IP of the server
and get conencted. I assume this is bad. The server cannot telnet itself
either.
Maybe you are on to something with that. Any ideas on what to check next? I
don't know what's needed to give the client telnet access.
Thanks,
> find / -name usr -type d -print
>
> you should get all directories (thta's what type does) named "usr", in
this
> case
>
> As to the server problem, are you sure Apache is running ?
> If you type "telnet 127.0.0.1:80" on the RedHat machine, do you get any
> answers?
>
> Luis
>
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Re: [users@httpd] Beginner's test problem
Posted by Luis Moreira <la...@bes.pt>.
Are you familiar with "man pages" ?
Try typing "man find" and read the syntax.
If you write something like
find / -name usr -type d -print
you should get all directories (thta's what type does) named "usr", in this
case
As to the server problem, are you sure Apache is running ?
If you type "telnet 127.0.0.1:80" on the RedHat machine, do you get any
answers?
Luis
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From: "Nathan Butcher" <na...@newson.co.jp>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Beginner's test problem
> How do I find htdocs on the system? I'm a total newbie so since htdocs is
a
> directory, I can't type : find / -name htdocs beacuse then in won't show
up.
> What do I type to find this directory? (Although I'm not sure if toying
with
> htdocs would help much as the server should start as it is, I feel.)
>
> The other concern is that the client is polling the server searching for
> something, but nothing abnormal is showing up in the error or access logs
> (nothing at all in the access log) to prove that the client was ever in
> there, although there definitely IS a connection of some kind because both
> PCs can ping each other successfully.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> > Hi Nathan,
> >
> > On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Nathan Butcher wrote:
> >
> > > What is htdocs? (I ran a "find" on the server, but it never showed up)
> > >
> >
> > htdocs is one of standard directory from apache. Usually it used as
> > directory for placing web pages file such as index.html etc.
> >
> > Regards.
> > Marno
>
>
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Re: [users@httpd] Beginner's test problem
Posted by Jean Piere Nurcahyo Sumarno <ma...@ai3.itb.ac.id>.
On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Nathan Butcher wrote:
> How do I find htdocs on the system? I'm a total newbie so since htdocs is a
> directory, I can't type : find / -name htdocs beacuse then in won't show up.
> What do I type to find this directory? (Although I'm not sure if toying with
> htdocs would help much as the server should start as it is, I feel.)
>
Nathan, did you open the directory /apache ? if you open it you will see
htdocs. If you did not see it, but you see the apache directory again,
just open it. You will see the "htdocs" directory. If you open this, you
will see the index.html file.
> The other concern is that the client is polling the server searching for
> something, but nothing abnormal is showing up in the error or access logs
> (nothing at all in the access log) to prove that the client was ever in
> there, although there definitely IS a connection of some kind because both
> PCs can ping each other successfully.
In the network checking, the pinging always used to know the "connection
between server and pc client". But it did not always mean an apache server
works fine :-).
Regards,
Marno
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> > Hi Nathan,
> >
> > On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Nathan Butcher wrote:
> >
> > > What is htdocs? (I ran a "find" on the server, but it never showed up)
> > >
> >
> > htdocs is one of standard directory from apache. Usually it used as
> > directory for placing web pages file such as index.html etc.
> >
> > Regards.
> > Marno
>
>
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RE: [users@httpd] Beginner's test problem
Posted by Ronald Zeelenberg <ro...@hotmail.com>.
Or updatedb
I think
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Support [mailto:support@iquest.ucsb.edu]
Verzonden: dinsdag 3 juni 2003 18:02
Aan: users@httpd.apache.org
Onderwerp: RE: [users@httpd] Beginner's test problem
Nathan,
I you want to find things really fast use 'locate'
/root #> locate -u
this re-initializes the locate database. when it is done, you have a whole
list of every file on your harddrive so when you try to locate something it
comes up fast.
/root #> locate htdocs | less
HTH
-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan Butcher [mailto:nathan_butcher@newson.co.jp]
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 2:04 AM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Beginner's test problem
How do I find htdocs on the system? I'm a total newbie so since htdocs is a
directory, I can't type : find / -name htdocs beacuse then in won't show up.
What do I type to find this directory? (Although I'm not sure if toying with
htdocs would help much as the server should start as it is, I feel.)
The other concern is that the client is polling the server searching for
something, but nothing abnormal is showing up in the error or access logs
(nothing at all in the access log) to prove that the client was ever in
there, although there definitely IS a connection of some kind because both
PCs can ping each other successfully.
Thanks,
> Hi Nathan,
>
> On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Nathan Butcher wrote:
>
> > What is htdocs? (I ran a "find" on the server, but it never showed
> > up)
> >
>
> htdocs is one of standard directory from apache. Usually it used as
> directory for placing web pages file such as index.html etc.
>
> Regards.
> Marno
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RE: [users@httpd] Beginner's test problem
Posted by Support <su...@iquest.ucsb.edu>.
Nathan,
I you want to find things really fast use 'locate'
/root #> locate -u
this re-initializes the locate database. when it is done, you have a whole
list of every file on your harddrive so when you try to locate something it
comes up fast.
/root #> locate htdocs | less
HTH
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From: Nathan Butcher [mailto:nathan_butcher@newson.co.jp]
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 2:04 AM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Beginner's test problem
How do I find htdocs on the system? I'm a total newbie so since htdocs is a
directory, I can't type : find / -name htdocs beacuse then in won't show up.
What do I type to find this directory? (Although I'm not sure if toying with
htdocs would help much as the server should start as it is, I feel.)
The other concern is that the client is polling the server searching for
something, but nothing abnormal is showing up in the error or access logs
(nothing at all in the access log) to prove that the client was ever in
there, although there definitely IS a connection of some kind because both
PCs can ping each other successfully.
Thanks,
> Hi Nathan,
>
> On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Nathan Butcher wrote:
>
> > What is htdocs? (I ran a "find" on the server, but it never showed
> > up)
> >
>
> htdocs is one of standard directory from apache. Usually it used as
> directory for placing web pages file such as index.html etc.
>
> Regards.
> Marno
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Re: [users@httpd] Beginner's test problem
Posted by Nathan Butcher <na...@newson.co.jp>.
How do I find htdocs on the system? I'm a total newbie so since htdocs is a
directory, I can't type : find / -name htdocs beacuse then in won't show up.
What do I type to find this directory? (Although I'm not sure if toying with
htdocs would help much as the server should start as it is, I feel.)
The other concern is that the client is polling the server searching for
something, but nothing abnormal is showing up in the error or access logs
(nothing at all in the access log) to prove that the client was ever in
there, although there definitely IS a connection of some kind because both
PCs can ping each other successfully.
Thanks,
> Hi Nathan,
>
> On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Nathan Butcher wrote:
>
> > What is htdocs? (I ran a "find" on the server, but it never showed up)
> >
>
> htdocs is one of standard directory from apache. Usually it used as
> directory for placing web pages file such as index.html etc.
>
> Regards.
> Marno
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Re: [users@httpd] Beginner's test problem
Posted by Jean Piere Nurcahyo Sumarno <ma...@ai3.itb.ac.id>.
Hi Nathan,
On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Nathan Butcher wrote:
> What is htdocs? (I ran a "find" on the server, but it never showed up)
>
htdocs is one of standard directory from apache. Usually it used as
directory for placing web pages file such as index.html etc.
Regards.
Marno
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Re: [users@httpd] Beginner's test problem
Posted by Nathan Butcher <na...@newson.co.jp>.
MessageActually when I found DocumentRoot, it was set to "/var/www/html" and
I haven't touched it since.
What is htdocs? (I ran a "find" on the server, but it never showed up)
I changed the name of the index file to index.htm, BUT I also made sure that
the conf would recognise .htm and not .html
so in order to change the location of webpages from htdocs to
/var/www/html
you changed the "DocumentRoot" option?
also did you change the name of your index.html file?
RE: [users@httpd] Beginner's test problem
Posted by Support <su...@iquest.ucsb.edu>.
so in order to change the location of webpages from htdocs to /var/www/html
you changed the "DocumentRoot" option?
also did you change the name of your index.html file?
HTH
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From: Nathan Butcher [mailto:nathan_butcher@newson.co.jp]
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:39 PM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: [users@httpd] Beginner's test problem
Hi,
I'm a newbie user with Apache 2.0 running off Red-Hat 9, and I'm trying to
set it up as a test web-server. At the moment, it is connected to a client
running Win2000. The connections are fine, and both server and client are
pinging each other nicely. A sample webpage has been placed in
/var/www/html/ on the server (and the config file has been set to see it).
In fact, I've barely touched the httpd config file at all, other than to
check the IP address and where the web page is supposed to sit.
The Win 2000 client's TCP/IP properties has been set to the server's IP
address.
After "apachectl start" is issued, the client tries to access the server's
IP address to see the test web page, but it times out and displays nothing.
The connection *seems* to be working and trying to read the webpage, but it
eventually gives up and says "Page not found". I can't see anything in the
access_log, but the error_log is repeatedly mentioning something about a
"Child process XXXX still did not exist, sending a SIGTERM"
Since I'm a total newbie and pretty clueless so far, is there anythign else
that I have to configure, or is there something very important that I
haven't taken into consideration at all?
I'm stumped.
Thanks,