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Usage of JRebel in Apache projects
Hi,
JRebel already offers a 1 year for free license for OSS projects. But
I wonder if there is already a License for the Apache Foundation that
committers can use?
Thanks!
Sebastian
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
seba.wagner@gmail.com
Re: Usage of JRebel in Apache projects
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
We might at least provide steps to build / run the project without the
usage of JRebel.
Maybe you can share your JRebel config somewhere in the wiki and dev's
that need it / want it can then modify Eclipse for their needs and use
the special red5 start script.
Sebastian
2012/9/19 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>:
> correction: script need to be changed as well as project (forgot about
> red5-debug.* modification :( )
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Unfortunately it affects Eclipse only.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:32 PM, seba.wagner@gmail.com
>> <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok,
>>>
>>> do we really need to add it to the Eclipse settings? I thought it
>>> would only influence the shell/batch scripts?
>>>
>>> Sebastian
>>>
>>> 2012/9/19 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>:
>>> > Can you request the license?
>>> >
>>> > BTW maybe you have couple eclipse environments to check what will
>>> > happends
>>> > if JRebel is not installed into eclipse but added as the project
>>> > component?
>>> > If everything is OK I can commit the configuration
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 2:25 PM, seba.wagner@gmail.com
>>> > <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Yes,
>>> >>
>>> >> the advice at general list was to claim for a license for our project
>>> >> and share the key/granted license in some private SVN space.
>>> >>
>>> >> Maybe we can upload it to people.apache.org as long as we have no
>>> >> private SVN space yet.
>>> >>
>>> >> Sebastian
>>> >>
>>> >> 2012/9/19 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>:
>>> >> > Hello Sebastian,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Are we going to use JRebel?
>>> >> > Should we claim for a license by ourselves?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Franklin, Matthew B.
>>> >> > <mf...@mitre.org>
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >> >> >From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
>>> >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 3:06 AM
>>> >> >> >To: general@incubator.apache.org
>>> >> >> >Cc: openmeetings-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> >> >> >Subject: Usage of JRebel in Apache projects
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >Hi,
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >JRebel already offers a 1 year for free license for OSS projects.
>>> >> >> > But
>>> >> >> >I wonder if there is already a License for the Apache Foundation
>>> >> >> > that
>>> >> >> >committers can use?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> My understanding of their terms is that it is a per-project
>>> >> >> license.
>>> >> >> Unless other IPMC members have better information, I think you can
>>> >> >> just
>>> >> >> request a license on behalf of your project and manage its
>>> >> >> distribution
>>> >> >> via
>>> >> >> a private SVN location.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >Thanks!
>>> >> >> >Sebastian
>>> >> >> >--
>>> >> >> >Sebastian Wagner
>>> >> >> >https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>>> >> >> >http://www.webbase-design.de
>>> >> >> >http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>>> >> >> >seba.wagner@gmail.com
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> > >---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>> >> >> >For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > --
>>> >> > WBR
>>> >> > Maxim aka solomax
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Sebastian Wagner
>>> >> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>>> >> http://www.webbase-design.de
>>> >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>>> >> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > WBR
>>> > Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>>> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
seba.wagner@gmail.com
Re: Usage of JRebel in Apache projects
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
correction: script need to be changed as well as project (forgot about
red5-debug.* modification :( )
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Unfortunately it affects Eclipse only.
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:32 PM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
> seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ok,
>>
>> do we really need to add it to the Eclipse settings? I thought it
>> would only influence the shell/batch scripts?
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>> 2012/9/19 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>:
>> > Can you request the license?
>> >
>> > BTW maybe you have couple eclipse environments to check what will
>> happends
>> > if JRebel is not installed into eclipse but added as the project
>> component?
>> > If everything is OK I can commit the configuration
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 2:25 PM, seba.wagner@gmail.com
>> > <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Yes,
>> >>
>> >> the advice at general list was to claim for a license for our project
>> >> and share the key/granted license in some private SVN space.
>> >>
>> >> Maybe we can upload it to people.apache.org as long as we have no
>> >> private SVN space yet.
>> >>
>> >> Sebastian
>> >>
>> >> 2012/9/19 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>:
>> >> > Hello Sebastian,
>> >> >
>> >> > Are we going to use JRebel?
>> >> > Should we claim for a license by ourselves?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Franklin, Matthew B.
>> >> > <mf...@mitre.org>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
>> >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 3:06 AM
>> >> >> >To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> >> >> >Cc: openmeetings-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> >> >> >Subject: Usage of JRebel in Apache projects
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Hi,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >JRebel already offers a 1 year for free license for OSS projects.
>> But
>> >> >> >I wonder if there is already a License for the Apache Foundation
>> that
>> >> >> >committers can use?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> My understanding of their terms is that it is a per-project license.
>> >> >> Unless other IPMC members have better information, I think you can
>> just
>> >> >> request a license on behalf of your project and manage its
>> distribution
>> >> >> via
>> >> >> a private SVN location.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Thanks!
>> >> >> >Sebastian
>> >> >> >--
>> >> >> >Sebastian Wagner
>> >> >> >https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>> >> >> >http://www.webbase-design.de
>> >> >> >http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>> >> >> >seba.wagner@gmail.com
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> >> >> >For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > WBR
>> >> > Maxim aka solomax
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Sebastian Wagner
>> >> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>> >> http://www.webbase-design.de
>> >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>> >> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > WBR
>> > Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: Usage of JRebel in Apache projects
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Unfortunately it affects Eclipse only.
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:32 PM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok,
>
> do we really need to add it to the Eclipse settings? I thought it
> would only influence the shell/batch scripts?
>
> Sebastian
>
> 2012/9/19 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>:
> > Can you request the license?
> >
> > BTW maybe you have couple eclipse environments to check what will
> happends
> > if JRebel is not installed into eclipse but added as the project
> component?
> > If everything is OK I can commit the configuration
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 2:25 PM, seba.wagner@gmail.com
> > <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes,
> >>
> >> the advice at general list was to claim for a license for our project
> >> and share the key/granted license in some private SVN space.
> >>
> >> Maybe we can upload it to people.apache.org as long as we have no
> >> private SVN space yet.
> >>
> >> Sebastian
> >>
> >> 2012/9/19 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>:
> >> > Hello Sebastian,
> >> >
> >> > Are we going to use JRebel?
> >> > Should we claim for a license by ourselves?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Franklin, Matthew B.
> >> > <mf...@mitre.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
> >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 3:06 AM
> >> >> >To: general@incubator.apache.org
> >> >> >Cc: openmeetings-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >> >> >Subject: Usage of JRebel in Apache projects
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Hi,
> >> >> >
> >> >> >JRebel already offers a 1 year for free license for OSS projects.
> But
> >> >> >I wonder if there is already a License for the Apache Foundation
> that
> >> >> >committers can use?
> >> >>
> >> >> My understanding of their terms is that it is a per-project license.
> >> >> Unless other IPMC members have better information, I think you can
> just
> >> >> request a license on behalf of your project and manage its
> distribution
> >> >> via
> >> >> a private SVN location.
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Thanks!
> >> >> >Sebastian
> >> >> >--
> >> >> >Sebastian Wagner
> >> >> >https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> >> >> >http://www.webbase-design.de
> >> >> >http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> >> >> >seba.wagner@gmail.com
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> >> >> >For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > WBR
> >> > Maxim aka solomax
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Sebastian Wagner
> >> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> >> http://www.webbase-design.de
> >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> >> seba.wagner@gmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > WBR
> > Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: Usage of JRebel in Apache projects
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
Ok,
do we really need to add it to the Eclipse settings? I thought it
would only influence the shell/batch scripts?
Sebastian
2012/9/19 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>:
> Can you request the license?
>
> BTW maybe you have couple eclipse environments to check what will happends
> if JRebel is not installed into eclipse but added as the project component?
> If everything is OK I can commit the configuration
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 2:25 PM, seba.wagner@gmail.com
> <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Yes,
>>
>> the advice at general list was to claim for a license for our project
>> and share the key/granted license in some private SVN space.
>>
>> Maybe we can upload it to people.apache.org as long as we have no
>> private SVN space yet.
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>> 2012/9/19 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>:
>> > Hello Sebastian,
>> >
>> > Are we going to use JRebel?
>> > Should we claim for a license by ourselves?
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Franklin, Matthew B.
>> > <mf...@mitre.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
>> >> >Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 3:06 AM
>> >> >To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> >> >Cc: openmeetings-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> >> >Subject: Usage of JRebel in Apache projects
>> >> >
>> >> >Hi,
>> >> >
>> >> >JRebel already offers a 1 year for free license for OSS projects. But
>> >> >I wonder if there is already a License for the Apache Foundation that
>> >> >committers can use?
>> >>
>> >> My understanding of their terms is that it is a per-project license.
>> >> Unless other IPMC members have better information, I think you can just
>> >> request a license on behalf of your project and manage its distribution
>> >> via
>> >> a private SVN location.
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >Thanks!
>> >> >Sebastian
>> >> >--
>> >> >Sebastian Wagner
>> >> >https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>> >> >http://www.webbase-design.de
>> >> >http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>> >> >seba.wagner@gmail.com
>> >> >
>> >> >---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
>> >> >For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > WBR
>> > Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
seba.wagner@gmail.com
Re: Usage of JRebel in Apache projects
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Can you request the license?
BTW maybe you have couple eclipse environments to check what will happends
if JRebel is not installed into eclipse but added as the project component?
If everything is OK I can commit the configuration
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 2:25 PM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes,
>
> the advice at general list was to claim for a license for our project
> and share the key/granted license in some private SVN space.
>
> Maybe we can upload it to people.apache.org as long as we have no
> private SVN space yet.
>
> Sebastian
>
> 2012/9/19 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>:
> > Hello Sebastian,
> >
> > Are we going to use JRebel?
> > Should we claim for a license by ourselves?
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Franklin, Matthew B. <
> mfranklin@mitre.org>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
> >> >Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 3:06 AM
> >> >To: general@incubator.apache.org
> >> >Cc: openmeetings-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >> >Subject: Usage of JRebel in Apache projects
> >> >
> >> >Hi,
> >> >
> >> >JRebel already offers a 1 year for free license for OSS projects. But
> >> >I wonder if there is already a License for the Apache Foundation that
> >> >committers can use?
> >>
> >> My understanding of their terms is that it is a per-project license.
> >> Unless other IPMC members have better information, I think you can just
> >> request a license on behalf of your project and manage its distribution
> via
> >> a private SVN location.
> >>
> >> >
> >> >Thanks!
> >> >Sebastian
> >> >--
> >> >Sebastian Wagner
> >> >https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> >> >http://www.webbase-design.de
> >> >http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> >> >seba.wagner@gmail.com
> >> >
> >> >---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> >> >For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > WBR
> > Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: Usage of JRebel in Apache projects
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
Yes,
the advice at general list was to claim for a license for our project
and share the key/granted license in some private SVN space.
Maybe we can upload it to people.apache.org as long as we have no
private SVN space yet.
Sebastian
2012/9/19 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>:
> Hello Sebastian,
>
> Are we going to use JRebel?
> Should we claim for a license by ourselves?
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Franklin, Matthew B. <mf...@mitre.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
>> >Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 3:06 AM
>> >To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> >Cc: openmeetings-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> >Subject: Usage of JRebel in Apache projects
>> >
>> >Hi,
>> >
>> >JRebel already offers a 1 year for free license for OSS projects. But
>> >I wonder if there is already a License for the Apache Foundation that
>> >committers can use?
>>
>> My understanding of their terms is that it is a per-project license.
>> Unless other IPMC members have better information, I think you can just
>> request a license on behalf of your project and manage its distribution via
>> a private SVN location.
>>
>> >
>> >Thanks!
>> >Sebastian
>> >--
>> >Sebastian Wagner
>> >https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>> >http://www.webbase-design.de
>> >http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>> >seba.wagner@gmail.com
>> >
>> >---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
>> >For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
>>
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
seba.wagner@gmail.com
Re: Usage of JRebel in Apache projects
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Hello Sebastian,
Are we going to use JRebel?
Should we claim for a license by ourselves?
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Franklin, Matthew B.
<mf...@mitre.org>wrote:
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
> >Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 3:06 AM
> >To: general@incubator.apache.org
> >Cc: openmeetings-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >Subject: Usage of JRebel in Apache projects
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >JRebel already offers a 1 year for free license for OSS projects. But
> >I wonder if there is already a License for the Apache Foundation that
> >committers can use?
>
> My understanding of their terms is that it is a per-project license.
> Unless other IPMC members have better information, I think you can just
> request a license on behalf of your project and manage its distribution via
> a private SVN location.
>
> >
> >Thanks!
> >Sebastian
> >--
> >Sebastian Wagner
> >https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> >http://www.webbase-design.de
> >http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> >seba.wagner@gmail.com
> >
> >---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> >For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
>
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
RE: Usage of JRebel in Apache projects
Posted by "Franklin, Matthew B." <mf...@mitre.org>.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 3:06 AM
>To: general@incubator.apache.org
>Cc: openmeetings-dev@incubator.apache.org
>Subject: Usage of JRebel in Apache projects
>
>Hi,
>
>JRebel already offers a 1 year for free license for OSS projects. But
>I wonder if there is already a License for the Apache Foundation that
>committers can use?
My understanding of their terms is that it is a per-project license. Unless other IPMC members have better information, I think you can just request a license on behalf of your project and manage its distribution via a private SVN location.
>
>Thanks!
>Sebastian
>--
>Sebastian Wagner
>https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>http://www.webbase-design.de
>http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>seba.wagner@gmail.com
>
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RE: Usage of JRebel in Apache projects
Posted by "Franklin, Matthew B." <mf...@mitre.org>.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 3:06 AM
>To: general@incubator.apache.org
>Cc: openmeetings-dev@incubator.apache.org
>Subject: Usage of JRebel in Apache projects
>
>Hi,
>
>JRebel already offers a 1 year for free license for OSS projects. But
>I wonder if there is already a License for the Apache Foundation that
>committers can use?
My understanding of their terms is that it is a per-project license. Unless other IPMC members have better information, I think you can just request a license on behalf of your project and manage its distribution via a private SVN location.
>
>Thanks!
>Sebastian
>--
>Sebastian Wagner
>https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>http://www.webbase-design.de
>http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>seba.wagner@gmail.com
>
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>To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
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