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Posted to dev@cassandra.apache.org by Mick Semb Wever <mc...@apache.org> on 2022/05/18 09:40:04 UTC
Appetite for a 4.1-alpha1 ?
Our release lifecycle docs¹ imply that we can release alphas despite
flaky test failures, which means we can cut and vote on a 4.1-alpha1
release today. This is also on the presumption that point (2) on our
Cassandra CI Process docs² does not apply to pre-beta releases.
Is there an appetite for this?
Any objections?
Any tickets about to land folk want us to wait on?
regards,
Mick
1) https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Release+Lifecycle
2) https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Cassandra+CI+Process
Re: Appetite for a 4.1-alpha1 ?
Posted by Derek Chen-Becker <de...@chen-becker.org>.
+1 to a release, but should we be explicit about alphas potentially having
flaky test failures? I think the release lifecycle doc is really good, but
I think when we find implied behavior it's an opportunity to make it more
concrete. I don't want to be dogmatic here, but flaky tests definitely seem
like something we would want users to be aware of as a possible risk of
using alpha.
Cheers,
Derek
On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 3:40 AM Mick Semb Wever <mc...@apache.org> wrote:
> Our release lifecycle docs¹ imply that we can release alphas despite
> flaky test failures, which means we can cut and vote on a 4.1-alpha1
> release today. This is also on the presumption that point (2) on our
> Cassandra CI Process docs² does not apply to pre-beta releases.
>
> Is there an appetite for this?
> Any objections?
> Any tickets about to land folk want us to wait on?
>
> regards,
> Mick
>
>
> 1) https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Release+Lifecycle
>
> 2)
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Cassandra+CI+Process
>
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Re: Appetite for a 4.1-alpha1 ?
Posted by Mick Semb Wever <mc...@apache.org>.
Ok, thanks everyone. Will kick off a 4.1-alpha1 cut.
Derek, I can add extra mention to the state of CI behind the build on
the final announcement email.
On Wed, 18 May 2022 at 21:04, Patrick McFadin <pm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Nothing promotable like a shiny new release tag!
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 10:50 AM C. Scott Andreas <sc...@paradoxica.net> wrote:
>>
>> Yep, supportive of anything that has the potential to increase the number of users evaluating a pre-release build. Alpha sounds great.
>>
>> On May 18, 2022, at 9:29 AM, David Capwell <dc...@apple.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Works for me
>>
>> On May 18, 2022, at 7:36 AM, Josh McKenzie <jm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> +1 from me on the grounds that I expect users to be more inclined to test an alpha build of 4.1 rather than finding and pulling down a nightly. Expectations of stability differ.
>>
>> On Wed, May 18, 2022, at 10:18 AM, Stefan Miklosovic wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mick,
>>
>> I do not mind having alpha1 out. It will help me with setting up all
>> build pipelines for our plugins / tools / libraries as now I can not
>> build it as snapshot is not released anywhere nor I can depend on it
>> in Maven projects, for example.
>>
>> So yeah, +1 from me.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> On Wed, 18 May 2022 at 11:40, Mick Semb Wever <mc...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Our release lifecycle docs¹ imply that we can release alphas despite
>> > flaky test failures, which means we can cut and vote on a 4.1-alpha1
>> > release today. This is also on the presumption that point (2) on our
>> > Cassandra CI Process docs² does not apply to pre-beta releases.
>> >
>> > Is there an appetite for this?
>> > Any objections?
>> > Any tickets about to land folk want us to wait on?
>> >
>> > regards,
>> > Mick
>> >
>> >
>> > 1) https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Release+Lifecycle
>> >
>> > 2) https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Cassandra+CI+Process
>>
>>
Re: Appetite for a 4.1-alpha1 ?
Posted by Patrick McFadin <pm...@gmail.com>.
Nothing promotable like a shiny new release tag!
On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 10:50 AM C. Scott Andreas <sc...@paradoxica.net>
wrote:
> Yep, supportive of anything that has the potential to increase the number
> of users evaluating a pre-release build. Alpha sounds great.
>
> On May 18, 2022, at 9:29 AM, David Capwell <dc...@apple.com> wrote:
>
>
> Works for me
>
> On May 18, 2022, at 7:36 AM, Josh McKenzie <jm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> +1 from me on the grounds that I expect users to be more inclined to test
> an alpha build of 4.1 rather than finding and pulling down a nightly.
> Expectations of stability differ.
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2022, at 10:18 AM, Stefan Miklosovic wrote:
>
> Hi Mick,
>
> I do not mind having alpha1 out. It will help me with setting up all
> build pipelines for our plugins / tools / libraries as now I can not
> build it as snapshot is not released anywhere nor I can depend on it
> in Maven projects, for example.
>
> So yeah, +1 from me.
>
> Regards
>
> On Wed, 18 May 2022 at 11:40, Mick Semb Wever <mc...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Our release lifecycle docs¹ imply that we can release alphas despite
> > flaky test failures, which means we can cut and vote on a 4.1-alpha1
> > release today. This is also on the presumption that point (2) on our
> > Cassandra CI Process docs² does not apply to pre-beta releases.
> >
> > Is there an appetite for this?
> > Any objections?
> > Any tickets about to land folk want us to wait on?
> >
> > regards,
> > Mick
> >
> >
> > 1)
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Release+Lifecycle
> >
> > 2)
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Cassandra+CI+Process
>
>
>
Re: Appetite for a 4.1-alpha1 ?
Posted by "C. Scott Andreas" <sc...@paradoxica.net>.
Yep, supportive of anything that has the potential to increase the number of users evaluating a pre-release build. Alpha sounds great.On May 18, 2022, at 9:29 AM, David Capwell <dc...@apple.com> wrote:Works for meOn May 18, 2022, at 7:36 AM, Josh McKenzie <jm...@apache.org> wrote:+1 from me on the grounds that I expect users to be more inclined to test an alpha build of 4.1 rather than finding and pulling down a nightly. Expectations of stability differ.On Wed, May 18, 2022, at 10:18 AM, Stefan Miklosovic wrote:Hi Mick,I do not mind having alpha1 out. It will help me with setting up allbuild pipelines for our plugins / tools / libraries as now I can notbuild it as snapshot is not released anywhere nor I can depend on itin Maven projects, for example.So yeah, +1 from me.RegardsOn Wed, 18 May 2022 at 11:40, Mick Semb Wever <mc...@apache.org> wrote:>> Our release lifecycle docs¹ imply that we can release alphas despite> flaky test failures, which means we can cut and vote on a 4.1-alpha1> release today. This is also on the presumption that point (2) on our> Cassandra CI Process docs² does not apply to pre-beta releases.>> Is there an appetite for this?> Any objections?> Any tickets about to land folk want us to wait on?>> regards,> Mick>>> 1) https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Release+Lifecycle>> 2) https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Cassandra+CI+Process
Re: Appetite for a 4.1-alpha1 ?
Posted by David Capwell <dc...@apple.com>.
Works for me
> On May 18, 2022, at 7:36 AM, Josh McKenzie <jm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> +1 from me on the grounds that I expect users to be more inclined to test an alpha build of 4.1 rather than finding and pulling down a nightly. Expectations of stability differ.
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2022, at 10:18 AM, Stefan Miklosovic wrote:
>> Hi Mick,
>>
>> I do not mind having alpha1 out. It will help me with setting up all
>> build pipelines for our plugins / tools / libraries as now I can not
>> build it as snapshot is not released anywhere nor I can depend on it
>> in Maven projects, for example.
>>
>> So yeah, +1 from me.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> On Wed, 18 May 2022 at 11:40, Mick Semb Wever <mck@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Our release lifecycle docs¹ imply that we can release alphas despite
>> > flaky test failures, which means we can cut and vote on a 4.1-alpha1
>> > release today. This is also on the presumption that point (2) on our
>> > Cassandra CI Process docs² does not apply to pre-beta releases.
>> >
>> > Is there an appetite for this?
>> > Any objections?
>> > Any tickets about to land folk want us to wait on?
>> >
>> > regards,
>> > Mick
>> >
>> >
>> > 1) https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Release+Lifecycle <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Release+Lifecycle>
>> >
>> > 2) https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Cassandra+CI+Process <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Cassandra+CI+Process>
Re: Appetite for a 4.1-alpha1 ?
Posted by Josh McKenzie <jm...@apache.org>.
+1 from me on the grounds that I expect users to be more inclined to test an alpha build of 4.1 rather than finding and pulling down a nightly. Expectations of stability differ.
On Wed, May 18, 2022, at 10:18 AM, Stefan Miklosovic wrote:
> Hi Mick,
>
> I do not mind having alpha1 out. It will help me with setting up all
> build pipelines for our plugins / tools / libraries as now I can not
> build it as snapshot is not released anywhere nor I can depend on it
> in Maven projects, for example.
>
> So yeah, +1 from me.
>
> Regards
>
> On Wed, 18 May 2022 at 11:40, Mick Semb Wever <mc...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Our release lifecycle docs¹ imply that we can release alphas despite
> > flaky test failures, which means we can cut and vote on a 4.1-alpha1
> > release today. This is also on the presumption that point (2) on our
> > Cassandra CI Process docs² does not apply to pre-beta releases.
> >
> > Is there an appetite for this?
> > Any objections?
> > Any tickets about to land folk want us to wait on?
> >
> > regards,
> > Mick
> >
> >
> > 1) https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Release+Lifecycle
> >
> > 2) https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Cassandra+CI+Process
>
Re: Appetite for a 4.1-alpha1 ?
Posted by Stefan Miklosovic <st...@instaclustr.com>.
Hi Mick,
I do not mind having alpha1 out. It will help me with setting up all
build pipelines for our plugins / tools / libraries as now I can not
build it as snapshot is not released anywhere nor I can depend on it
in Maven projects, for example.
So yeah, +1 from me.
Regards
On Wed, 18 May 2022 at 11:40, Mick Semb Wever <mc...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Our release lifecycle docs¹ imply that we can release alphas despite
> flaky test failures, which means we can cut and vote on a 4.1-alpha1
> release today. This is also on the presumption that point (2) on our
> Cassandra CI Process docs² does not apply to pre-beta releases.
>
> Is there an appetite for this?
> Any objections?
> Any tickets about to land folk want us to wait on?
>
> regards,
> Mick
>
>
> 1) https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Release+Lifecycle
>
> 2) https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Cassandra+CI+Process