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RE: concurrent user: understanding help please

Hi,

To achieve the 100 concurrent users login+search test as advised below, how many hours and Loop I suppose to run the test.

Is there any formula to calculate the no. of hours must be run, to achieve nnn number of concurrent test?

Thanks in advance
Ambs


-----Original Message-----
From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com] 
Sent: 09 September 2009 15:27
To: JMeter Users List
Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding

On 09/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
> Hi sebb,
>
>
>  -> One thread group1
>         No.of threads : 100
>         Rampup period: 1
>         Loop Count: 1
>         -> read the login and password from CVS file
>         -> send a HTTP Post request to login server
>         -> verify login the result with response assertion
>         -> with same session id search and verify the searched text
>         -> try to save the results in CVS file to extract the output in graphical representation
>
>  With above example:
>  Am I testing with 100 Concurrent Users?

Probably not.

Although JMeter runs the threads concurrently, with a loop count of 1
it's possible that the first threads to start will finish before the
last thread gets going.

A "burst" test like this does not have a chance to reach a steady state.

You should make sure the test runs for longer so that everything can
settle down.

>  If I have Two Thread group of same above, then it will be 200 concurrent user ?

As above.

>
>  Thanks
>  Ambs
>
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>  Sent: 09 September 2009 13:37
>  To: JMeter Users List
>  Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding
>
>  On 09/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >  Is number of threads is equals = = number of concurrent users ?
>  >
>
>  Number of threads == number of users.
>
>  These will be run concurrently by JMeter.
>
>  Whether they are concurrent or not as far as the server is concerned
>  depends on what you mean by concurrent and what the test plan does.
>
>  >
>  >  if answer is yes how many threads or concurrent user I can create,  what
>  >  is supporting maximum thread limit?
>  >
>
>  Depends on the test plan, the host, the network.
>
>  >
>  >  Is my understanding is correct.?
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >  ambs
>  >
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Re: concurrent user: understanding help please

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 17/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
> Hi sebb,
>
>  -> One thread group1
>  -> No.of threads : 100
>  -> Rampup period: 1
>  -> Loop Count: 1
>   -> read the login and password from CVS file send a HTTP Post
>
>         -> HTTP URL Re-writing Modifier to store the session-id
>         -> request to login server verify login the result with response
>   -> read the "search" data from CSV file
>   -> assertion to verify "search" and verify the searched data
>   -> store results in CVS file
>
>  I'm unable to "search" with same session id ? (I'm not using cookies)
>
>  How do I Pass the stored session id - to test "search" feature to validate the response time.?
>

What has this got to do with the previous e-mails in this thread?

I'm confused.

When asking a new question, please start a new thread with a new
subject (i.e. don't reply to an existing thread, create a new mail and
send that).

>  Thanks
>  Ambs
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>
> Sent: 15 September 2009 17:10
>  To: JMeter Users List
>  Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding help please
>
>  On 15/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>  > Hi sebb thanks,
>  >
>  >  I'm writing to CSV file by configuring as mentioned in the user guide, the data is updating properly.
>  >
>  >  Is it possible to write report as same as what i see in the GUI of "Summary Report" fields.
>  >
>  > Label, Samples, Average, Min, Max, Std.div, Error%, throughput, KB/sec, Average bytes to CSV file
>  >
>
>  Did you read the second paragraph in the coloured box?
>
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  >  From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>  >
>  > Sent: 15 September 2009 16:13
>  >  To: JMeter Users List
>  >  Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding help please
>  >
>  >  On 15/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>  >  > Hi all,
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >  I'm able to configure "simple Data Writer" and writing to csv file.
>  >  >  I have checked "save column names (CSV)", it not saving a coloumn names, but it has all the data whatever I have configured!
>  >  >
>  >  >  how do I write "Summary Report" items: Label, Samples, Average, Min, Max, Std.div, Error%, throughput, KB/sec, Average bytes to CSV file
>  >  >
>  >  > it could in either window or Linux
>  >  >
>  >
>  >  This is described in the manual:
>  >
>  >  http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/listeners.html
>  >
>  >  See the box that is the second paragraph.
>  >
>  >  >  thanks
>  >  >  ambs
>  >  >
>  >  >  -----Original Message-----
>  >  >  From: Adrian Speteanu [mailto:asp.adieu@gmail.com]
>  >  >  Sent: 14 September 2009 14:59
>  >  >  To: JMeter Users List
>  >  >  Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding help please
>  >  >
>  >  >  http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/listeners.html#sample_configuration
>  >  >
>  >  >  in the gui element, you set the file you want the information to be written to.
>  >  >  you make the configurations you see in the link above (uncheck "Save
>  >  >  as XML" so you save as CSV). also, check "save column names (CSV)" -
>  >  >  you will have names for each column so you can read it / edit etc.
>  >  >
>  >  >  a jtl file will be generated, but it has CSV content. you can load
>  >  >  this file later (in most listeners) and check out the results again.
>  >  >
>  >  >  read more for further detalis:
>  >  >  http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/listeners.html#csvlogformat.
>  >  >
>  >  >  On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Hembha, Ambanna
>  >  >  <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>  >  >  > After test completed; I can save this file, but I cannot write this information directly while test execution to CSV file?
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  > Thanks
>  >  >  > Ambs
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  > -----Original Message-----
>  >  >  > From: Noel O'Brien [mailto:nobrien@newbay.com]
>  >  >  > Sent: 14 September 2009 14:17
>  >  >  > To: JMeter Users List
>  >  >  > Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding help please
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  > That information is calculated by the SummaryReport Listener. You should load the results file in a SummaryReport Listener after testing is complete in order to calculate these values.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  > Regards,
>  >  >  > Noel
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  > ----- "Ambanna Hembha" <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>  >  >  >> Hi,
>  >  >  >> Thanks sebb & Deepak
>  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >> I have configured single threadgroup->200 threads test concurrent user test and writing summary report to CSV file.
>  >  >  >> But I'm unable to see the details what I have expected
>  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >> It is not printing in the file
>  >  >  >> Label, Samples, Average, Min, Max, Std.div, Error%, throughput, KB/sec, Average bytes
>  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >> Could you advise me please.
>  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >> Thanks
>  >  >  >> -Ambs
>  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >> -----Original Message-----
>  >  >  >> From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>  >  >  >> Sent: 11 September 2009 17:22
>  >  >  >> To: JMeter Users List
>  >  >  >> Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding help please
>  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >> On 11/09/2009, Deepak Shetty <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >> +1 to what Deepak has written.
>  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >> > Concurrent user test = Any test with > 1 threads. the longer you can keep
>  >  >  >> > the test running the more likely it is that you will be able to test the
>  >  >  >> > behavior under concurrency accurately. e.g. Running 100 threads with the
>  >  >  >> > test repeated say 1000 times is better than Running 100 threads with the
>  >  >  >> > test repeated once or ten times.
>  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >> It's important that the test runs for long enough. That way, any
>  >  >  >> startup delays are less significant.
>  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >> > Distributed test = when you need to generate large amount of load that
>  >  >  >> > cannot be generated using a single jmeter client . You run one Jmeter as a
>  >  >  >> > 'master' and the rest as slaves. The consensus seems to be thats its better
>  >  >  >> > to run different Jmeter instances and then combine the results rather than a
>  >  >  >> > distributed JMeter test.
>  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >> This is because the response data has to be sent back to the master JMeter.
>  >  >  >> There are options which can mitigate some of the problems, but the
>  >  >  >> master node (or its network interface) can become a bottle-neck.
>  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >> > so if you want to say generate 1000 concurrent
>  >  >  >> > users and you can say generate 250 users per jmeter client (before the
>  >  >  >> > client itself becomes a bottleneck), then you'd run 4 different JMeter
>  >  >  >> > clients on 4 different machines.
>  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >> Whether running master-slave or independently, you should make sure
>  >  >  >> that the various host system clocks are synchronised. If you cannot
>  >  >  >> arrange that, ensure that you record the time variations so you can
>  >  >  >> make allowances later if necessary.
>  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >> > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Hembha, Ambanna
>  >  >  >> >
>  >  >  >> > <am...@logica.com>wrote:
>  >  >  >> >
>  >  >  >> > > Hi,
>  >  >  >> > >
>  >  >  >> > > Jmeter Distributed testing; will be used for concurrent user test ?
>  >  >  >> > >
>  >  >  >> > > Anybody please help me ?
>  >  >  >> > >
>  >  >  >> > > -----Original Message-----
>  >  >  >> > > From: Hembha, Ambanna [mailto:ambanna.hembha@logica.com]
>  >  >  >> > > Sent: 10 September 2009 09:56
>  >  >  >> > > To: JMeter Users List
>  >  >  >> > > Subject: RE: concurrent user: understanding help please
>  >  >  >> > >
>  >  >  >> > > Hi,
>  >  >  >> > >
>  >  >  >> > > To achieve the 100 concurrent users login+search test as advised below, how
>  >  >  >> > > many hours and Loop I suppose to run the test.
>  >  >  >> > >
>  >  >  >> > > Is there any formula to calculate the no. of hours must be run, to achieve
>  >  >  >> > > nnn number of concurrent test?
>  >  >  >> > >
>  >  >  >> > > Thanks in advance
>  >  >  >> > > Ambs
>  >  >  >> > >
>  >  >  >> > >
>  >  >  >> > > -----Original Message-----
>  >  >  >> > > From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>  >  >  >> > > Sent: 09 September 2009 15:27
>  >  >  >> > > To: JMeter Users List
>  >  >  >> > > Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding
>  >  >  >> > >
>  >  >  >> > > On 09/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>  >  >  >> > > > Hi sebb,
>  >  >  >> > > >
>  >  >  >> > > >
>  >  >  >> > > > -> One thread group1
>  >  >  >> > > > No.of threads : 100
>  >  >  >> > > > Rampup period: 1
>  >  >  >> > > > Loop Count: 1
>  >  >  >> > > > -> read the login and password from CVS file
>  >  >  >> > > > -> send a HTTP Post request to login server
>  >  >  >> > > > -> verify login the result with response assertion
>  >  >  >> > > > -> with same session id search and verify the searched text
>  >  >  >> > > > -> try to save the results in CVS file to extract the output in
>  >  >  >> > > graphical representation
>  >  >  >> > > >
>  >  >  >> > > > With above example:
>  >  >  >> > > > Am I testing with 100 Concurrent Users?
>  >  >  >> > >
>  >  >  >> > > Probably not.
>  >  >  >> > >
>  >  >  >> > > Although JMeter runs the threads concurrently, with a loop count of 1
>  >  >  >> > > it's possible that the first threads to start will finish before the
>  >  >  >> > > last thread gets going.
>  >  >  >> > >
>  >  >  >> > > A "burst" test like this does not have a chance to reach a steady state.
>  >  >  >> > >
>  >  >  >> > > You should make sure the test runs for longer so that everything can
>  >  >  >> > > settle down.
>  >  >  >> > >
>  >  >  >> > > > If I have Two Thread group of same above, then it will be 200 concurrent
>  >  >  >> > > user ?
>  >  >  >> > >
>  >  >  >> > > As above.
>  >  >  >> > >
>  >  >  >> > > >
>  >  >  >> > > > Thanks
>  >  >  >> > > > Ambs
>  >  >  >> > > >
>  >  >  >> > > >
>  >  >  >> > > >
>  >  >  >> > > >
>  >  >  >> > > > -----Original Message-----
>  >  >  >> > > > From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>  >  >  >> > > > Sent: 09 September 2009 13:37
>  >  >  >> > > > To: JMeter Users List
>  >  >  >> > > > Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding
>  >  >  >> > > >
>  >  >  >> > > > On 09/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>  >  >  >> > > > > Hi,
>  >  >  >> > > > >
>  >  >  >> > > > >
>  >  >  >> > > > >
>  >  >  >> > > > > Is number of threads is equals = = number of concurrent users ?
>  >  >  >> > > > >
>  >  >  >> > > >
>  >  >  >> > > > Number of threads == number of users.
>  >  >  >> > > >
>  >  >  >> > > > These will be run concurrently by JMeter.
>  >  >  >> > > >
>  >  >  >> > > > Whether they are concurrent or not as far as the server is concerned
>  >  >  >> > > > depends on what you mean by concurrent and what the test plan does.
>  >  >  >> > > >
>  >  >  >> > > > >
>  >  >  >> > > > > if answer is yes how many threads or concurrent user I can create,
>  >  >  >> > > what
>  >  >  >> > > > > is supporting maximum thread limit?
>  >  >  >> > > > >
>  >  >  >> > > >
>  >  >  >> > > > Depends on the test plan, the host, the network.
>  >  >  >> > > >
>  >  >  >> > > > >
>  >  >  >> > > > > Is my understanding is correct.?
>  >  >  >> > > > >
>  >  >  >> > > > >
>  >  >  >> > > > >
>  >  >  >> > > > > ambs
>  >  >  >> > > > >
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RE: concurrent user: understanding help please

Posted by "Hembha, Ambanna" <am...@logica.com>.
Hi sebb,

-> One thread group1
-> No.of threads : 100
-> Rampup period: 1
-> Loop Count: 1
 -> read the login and password from CVS file send a HTTP Post
	-> HTTP URL Re-writing Modifier to store the session-id
 	-> request to login server verify login the result with response
 -> read the "search" data from CSV file
 -> assertion to verify "search" and verify the searched data
 -> store results in CVS file

I'm unable to "search" with same session id ? (I'm not using cookies)

How do I Pass the stored session id - to test "search" feature to validate the response time.?

Thanks
Ambs

-----Original Message-----
From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com] 
Sent: 15 September 2009 17:10
To: JMeter Users List
Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding help please

On 15/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
> Hi sebb thanks,
>
>  I'm writing to CSV file by configuring as mentioned in the user guide, the data is updating properly.
>
>  Is it possible to write report as same as what i see in the GUI of "Summary Report" fields.
>
> Label, Samples, Average, Min, Max, Std.div, Error%, throughput, KB/sec, Average bytes to CSV file
>

Did you read the second paragraph in the coloured box?

> -----Original Message-----
>  From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>
> Sent: 15 September 2009 16:13
>  To: JMeter Users List
>  Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding help please
>
>  On 15/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>  > Hi all,
>  >
>  >
>  >  I'm able to configure "simple Data Writer" and writing to csv file.
>  >  I have checked "save column names (CSV)", it not saving a coloumn names, but it has all the data whatever I have configured!
>  >
>  >  how do I write "Summary Report" items: Label, Samples, Average, Min, Max, Std.div, Error%, throughput, KB/sec, Average bytes to CSV file
>  >
>  > it could in either window or Linux
>  >
>
>  This is described in the manual:
>
>  http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/listeners.html
>
>  See the box that is the second paragraph.
>
>  >  thanks
>  >  ambs
>  >
>  >  -----Original Message-----
>  >  From: Adrian Speteanu [mailto:asp.adieu@gmail.com]
>  >  Sent: 14 September 2009 14:59
>  >  To: JMeter Users List
>  >  Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding help please
>  >
>  >  http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/listeners.html#sample_configuration
>  >
>  >  in the gui element, you set the file you want the information to be written to.
>  >  you make the configurations you see in the link above (uncheck "Save
>  >  as XML" so you save as CSV). also, check "save column names (CSV)" -
>  >  you will have names for each column so you can read it / edit etc.
>  >
>  >  a jtl file will be generated, but it has CSV content. you can load
>  >  this file later (in most listeners) and check out the results again.
>  >
>  >  read more for further detalis:
>  >  http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/listeners.html#csvlogformat.
>  >
>  >  On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Hembha, Ambanna
>  >  <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>  >  > After test completed; I can save this file, but I cannot write this information directly while test execution to CSV file?
>  >  >
>  >  > Thanks
>  >  > Ambs
>  >  >
>  >  > -----Original Message-----
>  >  > From: Noel O'Brien [mailto:nobrien@newbay.com]
>  >  > Sent: 14 September 2009 14:17
>  >  > To: JMeter Users List
>  >  > Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding help please
>  >  >
>  >  > That information is calculated by the SummaryReport Listener. You should load the results file in a SummaryReport Listener after testing is complete in order to calculate these values.
>  >  >
>  >  > Regards,
>  >  > Noel
>  >  >
>  >  > ----- "Ambanna Hembha" <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>  >  >> Hi,
>  >  >> Thanks sebb & Deepak
>  >  >>
>  >  >> I have configured single threadgroup->200 threads test concurrent user test and writing summary report to CSV file.
>  >  >> But I'm unable to see the details what I have expected
>  >  >>
>  >  >> It is not printing in the file
>  >  >> Label, Samples, Average, Min, Max, Std.div, Error%, throughput, KB/sec, Average bytes
>  >  >>
>  >  >> Could you advise me please.
>  >  >>
>  >  >> Thanks
>  >  >> -Ambs
>  >  >>
>  >  >>
>  >  >>
>  >  >> -----Original Message-----
>  >  >> From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>  >  >> Sent: 11 September 2009 17:22
>  >  >> To: JMeter Users List
>  >  >> Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding help please
>  >  >>
>  >  >> On 11/09/2009, Deepak Shetty <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >  >>
>  >  >> +1 to what Deepak has written.
>  >  >>
>  >  >> > Concurrent user test = Any test with > 1 threads. the longer you can keep
>  >  >> > the test running the more likely it is that you will be able to test the
>  >  >> > behavior under concurrency accurately. e.g. Running 100 threads with the
>  >  >> > test repeated say 1000 times is better than Running 100 threads with the
>  >  >> > test repeated once or ten times.
>  >  >>
>  >  >> It's important that the test runs for long enough. That way, any
>  >  >> startup delays are less significant.
>  >  >>
>  >  >> > Distributed test = when you need to generate large amount of load that
>  >  >> > cannot be generated using a single jmeter client . You run one Jmeter as a
>  >  >> > 'master' and the rest as slaves. The consensus seems to be thats its better
>  >  >> > to run different Jmeter instances and then combine the results rather than a
>  >  >> > distributed JMeter test.
>  >  >>
>  >  >> This is because the response data has to be sent back to the master JMeter.
>  >  >> There are options which can mitigate some of the problems, but the
>  >  >> master node (or its network interface) can become a bottle-neck.
>  >  >>
>  >  >> > so if you want to say generate 1000 concurrent
>  >  >> > users and you can say generate 250 users per jmeter client (before the
>  >  >> > client itself becomes a bottleneck), then you'd run 4 different JMeter
>  >  >> > clients on 4 different machines.
>  >  >>
>  >  >> Whether running master-slave or independently, you should make sure
>  >  >> that the various host system clocks are synchronised. If you cannot
>  >  >> arrange that, ensure that you record the time variations so you can
>  >  >> make allowances later if necessary.
>  >  >>
>  >  >> > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Hembha, Ambanna
>  >  >> >
>  >  >> > <am...@logica.com>wrote:
>  >  >> >
>  >  >> > > Hi,
>  >  >> > >
>  >  >> > > Jmeter Distributed testing; will be used for concurrent user test ?
>  >  >> > >
>  >  >> > > Anybody please help me ?
>  >  >> > >
>  >  >> > > -----Original Message-----
>  >  >> > > From: Hembha, Ambanna [mailto:ambanna.hembha@logica.com]
>  >  >> > > Sent: 10 September 2009 09:56
>  >  >> > > To: JMeter Users List
>  >  >> > > Subject: RE: concurrent user: understanding help please
>  >  >> > >
>  >  >> > > Hi,
>  >  >> > >
>  >  >> > > To achieve the 100 concurrent users login+search test as advised below, how
>  >  >> > > many hours and Loop I suppose to run the test.
>  >  >> > >
>  >  >> > > Is there any formula to calculate the no. of hours must be run, to achieve
>  >  >> > > nnn number of concurrent test?
>  >  >> > >
>  >  >> > > Thanks in advance
>  >  >> > > Ambs
>  >  >> > >
>  >  >> > >
>  >  >> > > -----Original Message-----
>  >  >> > > From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>  >  >> > > Sent: 09 September 2009 15:27
>  >  >> > > To: JMeter Users List
>  >  >> > > Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding
>  >  >> > >
>  >  >> > > On 09/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>  >  >> > > > Hi sebb,
>  >  >> > > >
>  >  >> > > >
>  >  >> > > > -> One thread group1
>  >  >> > > > No.of threads : 100
>  >  >> > > > Rampup period: 1
>  >  >> > > > Loop Count: 1
>  >  >> > > > -> read the login and password from CVS file
>  >  >> > > > -> send a HTTP Post request to login server
>  >  >> > > > -> verify login the result with response assertion
>  >  >> > > > -> with same session id search and verify the searched text
>  >  >> > > > -> try to save the results in CVS file to extract the output in
>  >  >> > > graphical representation
>  >  >> > > >
>  >  >> > > > With above example:
>  >  >> > > > Am I testing with 100 Concurrent Users?
>  >  >> > >
>  >  >> > > Probably not.
>  >  >> > >
>  >  >> > > Although JMeter runs the threads concurrently, with a loop count of 1
>  >  >> > > it's possible that the first threads to start will finish before the
>  >  >> > > last thread gets going.
>  >  >> > >
>  >  >> > > A "burst" test like this does not have a chance to reach a steady state.
>  >  >> > >
>  >  >> > > You should make sure the test runs for longer so that everything can
>  >  >> > > settle down.
>  >  >> > >
>  >  >> > > > If I have Two Thread group of same above, then it will be 200 concurrent
>  >  >> > > user ?
>  >  >> > >
>  >  >> > > As above.
>  >  >> > >
>  >  >> > > >
>  >  >> > > > Thanks
>  >  >> > > > Ambs
>  >  >> > > >
>  >  >> > > >
>  >  >> > > >
>  >  >> > > >
>  >  >> > > > -----Original Message-----
>  >  >> > > > From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>  >  >> > > > Sent: 09 September 2009 13:37
>  >  >> > > > To: JMeter Users List
>  >  >> > > > Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding
>  >  >> > > >
>  >  >> > > > On 09/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>  >  >> > > > > Hi,
>  >  >> > > > >
>  >  >> > > > >
>  >  >> > > > >
>  >  >> > > > > Is number of threads is equals = = number of concurrent users ?
>  >  >> > > > >
>  >  >> > > >
>  >  >> > > > Number of threads == number of users.
>  >  >> > > >
>  >  >> > > > These will be run concurrently by JMeter.
>  >  >> > > >
>  >  >> > > > Whether they are concurrent or not as far as the server is concerned
>  >  >> > > > depends on what you mean by concurrent and what the test plan does.
>  >  >> > > >
>  >  >> > > > >
>  >  >> > > > > if answer is yes how many threads or concurrent user I can create,
>  >  >> > > what
>  >  >> > > > > is supporting maximum thread limit?
>  >  >> > > > >
>  >  >> > > >
>  >  >> > > > Depends on the test plan, the host, the network.
>  >  >> > > >
>  >  >> > > > >
>  >  >> > > > > Is my understanding is correct.?
>  >  >> > > > >
>  >  >> > > > >
>  >  >> > > > >
>  >  >> > > > > ambs
>  >  >> > > > >
>  >  >> > > > >
>  >  >> > > > >
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Re: concurrent user: understanding help please

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 15/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
> Hi sebb thanks,
>
>  I'm writing to CSV file by configuring as mentioned in the user guide, the data is updating properly.
>
>  Is it possible to write report as same as what i see in the GUI of "Summary Report" fields.
>
> Label, Samples, Average, Min, Max, Std.div, Error%, throughput, KB/sec, Average bytes to CSV file
>

Did you read the second paragraph in the coloured box?

> -----Original Message-----
>  From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>
> Sent: 15 September 2009 16:13
>  To: JMeter Users List
>  Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding help please
>
>  On 15/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>  > Hi all,
>  >
>  >
>  >  I'm able to configure "simple Data Writer" and writing to csv file.
>  >  I have checked "save column names (CSV)", it not saving a coloumn names, but it has all the data whatever I have configured!
>  >
>  >  how do I write "Summary Report" items: Label, Samples, Average, Min, Max, Std.div, Error%, throughput, KB/sec, Average bytes to CSV file
>  >
>  > it could in either window or Linux
>  >
>
>  This is described in the manual:
>
>  http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/listeners.html
>
>  See the box that is the second paragraph.
>
>  >  thanks
>  >  ambs
>  >
>  >  -----Original Message-----
>  >  From: Adrian Speteanu [mailto:asp.adieu@gmail.com]
>  >  Sent: 14 September 2009 14:59
>  >  To: JMeter Users List
>  >  Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding help please
>  >
>  >  http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/listeners.html#sample_configuration
>  >
>  >  in the gui element, you set the file you want the information to be written to.
>  >  you make the configurations you see in the link above (uncheck "Save
>  >  as XML" so you save as CSV). also, check "save column names (CSV)" -
>  >  you will have names for each column so you can read it / edit etc.
>  >
>  >  a jtl file will be generated, but it has CSV content. you can load
>  >  this file later (in most listeners) and check out the results again.
>  >
>  >  read more for further detalis:
>  >  http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/listeners.html#csvlogformat.
>  >
>  >  On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Hembha, Ambanna
>  >  <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>  >  > After test completed; I can save this file, but I cannot write this information directly while test execution to CSV file?
>  >  >
>  >  > Thanks
>  >  > Ambs
>  >  >
>  >  > -----Original Message-----
>  >  > From: Noel O'Brien [mailto:nobrien@newbay.com]
>  >  > Sent: 14 September 2009 14:17
>  >  > To: JMeter Users List
>  >  > Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding help please
>  >  >
>  >  > That information is calculated by the SummaryReport Listener. You should load the results file in a SummaryReport Listener after testing is complete in order to calculate these values.
>  >  >
>  >  > Regards,
>  >  > Noel
>  >  >
>  >  > ----- "Ambanna Hembha" <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>  >  >> Hi,
>  >  >> Thanks sebb & Deepak
>  >  >>
>  >  >> I have configured single threadgroup->200 threads test concurrent user test and writing summary report to CSV file.
>  >  >> But I'm unable to see the details what I have expected
>  >  >>
>  >  >> It is not printing in the file
>  >  >> Label, Samples, Average, Min, Max, Std.div, Error%, throughput, KB/sec, Average bytes
>  >  >>
>  >  >> Could you advise me please.
>  >  >>
>  >  >> Thanks
>  >  >> -Ambs
>  >  >>
>  >  >>
>  >  >>
>  >  >> -----Original Message-----
>  >  >> From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>  >  >> Sent: 11 September 2009 17:22
>  >  >> To: JMeter Users List
>  >  >> Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding help please
>  >  >>
>  >  >> On 11/09/2009, Deepak Shetty <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >  >>
>  >  >> +1 to what Deepak has written.
>  >  >>
>  >  >> > Concurrent user test = Any test with > 1 threads. the longer you can keep
>  >  >> > the test running the more likely it is that you will be able to test the
>  >  >> > behavior under concurrency accurately. e.g. Running 100 threads with the
>  >  >> > test repeated say 1000 times is better than Running 100 threads with the
>  >  >> > test repeated once or ten times.
>  >  >>
>  >  >> It's important that the test runs for long enough. That way, any
>  >  >> startup delays are less significant.
>  >  >>
>  >  >> > Distributed test = when you need to generate large amount of load that
>  >  >> > cannot be generated using a single jmeter client . You run one Jmeter as a
>  >  >> > 'master' and the rest as slaves. The consensus seems to be thats its better
>  >  >> > to run different Jmeter instances and then combine the results rather than a
>  >  >> > distributed JMeter test.
>  >  >>
>  >  >> This is because the response data has to be sent back to the master JMeter.
>  >  >> There are options which can mitigate some of the problems, but the
>  >  >> master node (or its network interface) can become a bottle-neck.
>  >  >>
>  >  >> > so if you want to say generate 1000 concurrent
>  >  >> > users and you can say generate 250 users per jmeter client (before the
>  >  >> > client itself becomes a bottleneck), then you'd run 4 different JMeter
>  >  >> > clients on 4 different machines.
>  >  >>
>  >  >> Whether running master-slave or independently, you should make sure
>  >  >> that the various host system clocks are synchronised. If you cannot
>  >  >> arrange that, ensure that you record the time variations so you can
>  >  >> make allowances later if necessary.
>  >  >>
>  >  >> > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Hembha, Ambanna
>  >  >> >
>  >  >> > <am...@logica.com>wrote:
>  >  >> >
>  >  >> > > Hi,
>  >  >> > >
>  >  >> > > Jmeter Distributed testing; will be used for concurrent user test ?
>  >  >> > >
>  >  >> > > Anybody please help me ?
>  >  >> > >
>  >  >> > > -----Original Message-----
>  >  >> > > From: Hembha, Ambanna [mailto:ambanna.hembha@logica.com]
>  >  >> > > Sent: 10 September 2009 09:56
>  >  >> > > To: JMeter Users List
>  >  >> > > Subject: RE: concurrent user: understanding help please
>  >  >> > >
>  >  >> > > Hi,
>  >  >> > >
>  >  >> > > To achieve the 100 concurrent users login+search test as advised below, how
>  >  >> > > many hours and Loop I suppose to run the test.
>  >  >> > >
>  >  >> > > Is there any formula to calculate the no. of hours must be run, to achieve
>  >  >> > > nnn number of concurrent test?
>  >  >> > >
>  >  >> > > Thanks in advance
>  >  >> > > Ambs
>  >  >> > >
>  >  >> > >
>  >  >> > > -----Original Message-----
>  >  >> > > From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>  >  >> > > Sent: 09 September 2009 15:27
>  >  >> > > To: JMeter Users List
>  >  >> > > Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding
>  >  >> > >
>  >  >> > > On 09/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>  >  >> > > > Hi sebb,
>  >  >> > > >
>  >  >> > > >
>  >  >> > > > -> One thread group1
>  >  >> > > > No.of threads : 100
>  >  >> > > > Rampup period: 1
>  >  >> > > > Loop Count: 1
>  >  >> > > > -> read the login and password from CVS file
>  >  >> > > > -> send a HTTP Post request to login server
>  >  >> > > > -> verify login the result with response assertion
>  >  >> > > > -> with same session id search and verify the searched text
>  >  >> > > > -> try to save the results in CVS file to extract the output in
>  >  >> > > graphical representation
>  >  >> > > >
>  >  >> > > > With above example:
>  >  >> > > > Am I testing with 100 Concurrent Users?
>  >  >> > >
>  >  >> > > Probably not.
>  >  >> > >
>  >  >> > > Although JMeter runs the threads concurrently, with a loop count of 1
>  >  >> > > it's possible that the first threads to start will finish before the
>  >  >> > > last thread gets going.
>  >  >> > >
>  >  >> > > A "burst" test like this does not have a chance to reach a steady state.
>  >  >> > >
>  >  >> > > You should make sure the test runs for longer so that everything can
>  >  >> > > settle down.
>  >  >> > >
>  >  >> > > > If I have Two Thread group of same above, then it will be 200 concurrent
>  >  >> > > user ?
>  >  >> > >
>  >  >> > > As above.
>  >  >> > >
>  >  >> > > >
>  >  >> > > > Thanks
>  >  >> > > > Ambs
>  >  >> > > >
>  >  >> > > >
>  >  >> > > >
>  >  >> > > >
>  >  >> > > > -----Original Message-----
>  >  >> > > > From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>  >  >> > > > Sent: 09 September 2009 13:37
>  >  >> > > > To: JMeter Users List
>  >  >> > > > Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding
>  >  >> > > >
>  >  >> > > > On 09/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>  >  >> > > > > Hi,
>  >  >> > > > >
>  >  >> > > > >
>  >  >> > > > >
>  >  >> > > > > Is number of threads is equals = = number of concurrent users ?
>  >  >> > > > >
>  >  >> > > >
>  >  >> > > > Number of threads == number of users.
>  >  >> > > >
>  >  >> > > > These will be run concurrently by JMeter.
>  >  >> > > >
>  >  >> > > > Whether they are concurrent or not as far as the server is concerned
>  >  >> > > > depends on what you mean by concurrent and what the test plan does.
>  >  >> > > >
>  >  >> > > > >
>  >  >> > > > > if answer is yes how many threads or concurrent user I can create,
>  >  >> > > what
>  >  >> > > > > is supporting maximum thread limit?
>  >  >> > > > >
>  >  >> > > >
>  >  >> > > > Depends on the test plan, the host, the network.
>  >  >> > > >
>  >  >> > > > >
>  >  >> > > > > Is my understanding is correct.?
>  >  >> > > > >
>  >  >> > > > >
>  >  >> > > > >
>  >  >> > > > > ambs
>  >  >> > > > >
>  >  >> > > > >
>  >  >> > > > >
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RE: concurrent user: understanding help please

Posted by "Hembha, Ambanna" <am...@logica.com>.
Hi sebb thanks,

I'm writing to CSV file by configuring as mentioned in the user guide, the data is updating properly.

Is it possible to write report as same as what i see in the GUI of "Summary Report" fields.
Label, Samples, Average, Min, Max, Std.div, Error%, throughput, KB/sec, Average bytes to CSV file

-----Original Message-----
From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com] 
Sent: 15 September 2009 16:13
To: JMeter Users List
Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding help please

On 15/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>
>  I'm able to configure "simple Data Writer" and writing to csv file.
>  I have checked "save column names (CSV)", it not saving a coloumn names, but it has all the data whatever I have configured!
>
>  how do I write "Summary Report" items: Label, Samples, Average, Min, Max, Std.div, Error%, throughput, KB/sec, Average bytes to CSV file
>
> it could in either window or Linux
>

This is described in the manual:

http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/listeners.html

See the box that is the second paragraph.

>  thanks
>  ambs
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Adrian Speteanu [mailto:asp.adieu@gmail.com]
>  Sent: 14 September 2009 14:59
>  To: JMeter Users List
>  Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding help please
>
>  http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/listeners.html#sample_configuration
>
>  in the gui element, you set the file you want the information to be written to.
>  you make the configurations you see in the link above (uncheck "Save
>  as XML" so you save as CSV). also, check "save column names (CSV)" -
>  you will have names for each column so you can read it / edit etc.
>
>  a jtl file will be generated, but it has CSV content. you can load
>  this file later (in most listeners) and check out the results again.
>
>  read more for further detalis:
>  http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/listeners.html#csvlogformat.
>
>  On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Hembha, Ambanna
>  <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>  > After test completed; I can save this file, but I cannot write this information directly while test execution to CSV file?
>  >
>  > Thanks
>  > Ambs
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: Noel O'Brien [mailto:nobrien@newbay.com]
>  > Sent: 14 September 2009 14:17
>  > To: JMeter Users List
>  > Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding help please
>  >
>  > That information is calculated by the SummaryReport Listener. You should load the results file in a SummaryReport Listener after testing is complete in order to calculate these values.
>  >
>  > Regards,
>  > Noel
>  >
>  > ----- "Ambanna Hembha" <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>  >> Hi,
>  >> Thanks sebb & Deepak
>  >>
>  >> I have configured single threadgroup->200 threads test concurrent user test and writing summary report to CSV file.
>  >> But I'm unable to see the details what I have expected
>  >>
>  >> It is not printing in the file
>  >> Label, Samples, Average, Min, Max, Std.div, Error%, throughput, KB/sec, Average bytes
>  >>
>  >> Could you advise me please.
>  >>
>  >> Thanks
>  >> -Ambs
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> -----Original Message-----
>  >> From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>  >> Sent: 11 September 2009 17:22
>  >> To: JMeter Users List
>  >> Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding help please
>  >>
>  >> On 11/09/2009, Deepak Shetty <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >>
>  >> +1 to what Deepak has written.
>  >>
>  >> > Concurrent user test = Any test with > 1 threads. the longer you can keep
>  >> > the test running the more likely it is that you will be able to test the
>  >> > behavior under concurrency accurately. e.g. Running 100 threads with the
>  >> > test repeated say 1000 times is better than Running 100 threads with the
>  >> > test repeated once or ten times.
>  >>
>  >> It's important that the test runs for long enough. That way, any
>  >> startup delays are less significant.
>  >>
>  >> > Distributed test = when you need to generate large amount of load that
>  >> > cannot be generated using a single jmeter client . You run one Jmeter as a
>  >> > 'master' and the rest as slaves. The consensus seems to be thats its better
>  >> > to run different Jmeter instances and then combine the results rather than a
>  >> > distributed JMeter test.
>  >>
>  >> This is because the response data has to be sent back to the master JMeter.
>  >> There are options which can mitigate some of the problems, but the
>  >> master node (or its network interface) can become a bottle-neck.
>  >>
>  >> > so if you want to say generate 1000 concurrent
>  >> > users and you can say generate 250 users per jmeter client (before the
>  >> > client itself becomes a bottleneck), then you'd run 4 different JMeter
>  >> > clients on 4 different machines.
>  >>
>  >> Whether running master-slave or independently, you should make sure
>  >> that the various host system clocks are synchronised. If you cannot
>  >> arrange that, ensure that you record the time variations so you can
>  >> make allowances later if necessary.
>  >>
>  >> > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Hembha, Ambanna
>  >> >
>  >> > <am...@logica.com>wrote:
>  >> >
>  >> > > Hi,
>  >> > >
>  >> > > Jmeter Distributed testing; will be used for concurrent user test ?
>  >> > >
>  >> > > Anybody please help me ?
>  >> > >
>  >> > > -----Original Message-----
>  >> > > From: Hembha, Ambanna [mailto:ambanna.hembha@logica.com]
>  >> > > Sent: 10 September 2009 09:56
>  >> > > To: JMeter Users List
>  >> > > Subject: RE: concurrent user: understanding help please
>  >> > >
>  >> > > Hi,
>  >> > >
>  >> > > To achieve the 100 concurrent users login+search test as advised below, how
>  >> > > many hours and Loop I suppose to run the test.
>  >> > >
>  >> > > Is there any formula to calculate the no. of hours must be run, to achieve
>  >> > > nnn number of concurrent test?
>  >> > >
>  >> > > Thanks in advance
>  >> > > Ambs
>  >> > >
>  >> > >
>  >> > > -----Original Message-----
>  >> > > From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>  >> > > Sent: 09 September 2009 15:27
>  >> > > To: JMeter Users List
>  >> > > Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding
>  >> > >
>  >> > > On 09/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>  >> > > > Hi sebb,
>  >> > > >
>  >> > > >
>  >> > > > -> One thread group1
>  >> > > > No.of threads : 100
>  >> > > > Rampup period: 1
>  >> > > > Loop Count: 1
>  >> > > > -> read the login and password from CVS file
>  >> > > > -> send a HTTP Post request to login server
>  >> > > > -> verify login the result with response assertion
>  >> > > > -> with same session id search and verify the searched text
>  >> > > > -> try to save the results in CVS file to extract the output in
>  >> > > graphical representation
>  >> > > >
>  >> > > > With above example:
>  >> > > > Am I testing with 100 Concurrent Users?
>  >> > >
>  >> > > Probably not.
>  >> > >
>  >> > > Although JMeter runs the threads concurrently, with a loop count of 1
>  >> > > it's possible that the first threads to start will finish before the
>  >> > > last thread gets going.
>  >> > >
>  >> > > A "burst" test like this does not have a chance to reach a steady state.
>  >> > >
>  >> > > You should make sure the test runs for longer so that everything can
>  >> > > settle down.
>  >> > >
>  >> > > > If I have Two Thread group of same above, then it will be 200 concurrent
>  >> > > user ?
>  >> > >
>  >> > > As above.
>  >> > >
>  >> > > >
>  >> > > > Thanks
>  >> > > > Ambs
>  >> > > >
>  >> > > >
>  >> > > >
>  >> > > >
>  >> > > > -----Original Message-----
>  >> > > > From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>  >> > > > Sent: 09 September 2009 13:37
>  >> > > > To: JMeter Users List
>  >> > > > Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding
>  >> > > >
>  >> > > > On 09/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>  >> > > > > Hi,
>  >> > > > >
>  >> > > > >
>  >> > > > >
>  >> > > > > Is number of threads is equals = = number of concurrent users ?
>  >> > > > >
>  >> > > >
>  >> > > > Number of threads == number of users.
>  >> > > >
>  >> > > > These will be run concurrently by JMeter.
>  >> > > >
>  >> > > > Whether they are concurrent or not as far as the server is concerned
>  >> > > > depends on what you mean by concurrent and what the test plan does.
>  >> > > >
>  >> > > > >
>  >> > > > > if answer is yes how many threads or concurrent user I can create,
>  >> > > what
>  >> > > > > is supporting maximum thread limit?
>  >> > > > >
>  >> > > >
>  >> > > > Depends on the test plan, the host, the network.
>  >> > > >
>  >> > > > >
>  >> > > > > Is my understanding is correct.?
>  >> > > > >
>  >> > > > >
>  >> > > > >
>  >> > > > > ambs
>  >> > > > >
>  >> > > > >
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Re: concurrent user: understanding help please

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 15/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>
>  I'm able to configure "simple Data Writer" and writing to csv file.
>  I have checked "save column names (CSV)", it not saving a coloumn names, but it has all the data whatever I have configured!
>
>  how do I write "Summary Report" items: Label, Samples, Average, Min, Max, Std.div, Error%, throughput, KB/sec, Average bytes to CSV file
>
> it could in either window or Linux
>

This is described in the manual:

http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/listeners.html

See the box that is the second paragraph.

>  thanks
>  ambs
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Adrian Speteanu [mailto:asp.adieu@gmail.com]
>  Sent: 14 September 2009 14:59
>  To: JMeter Users List
>  Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding help please
>
>  http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/listeners.html#sample_configuration
>
>  in the gui element, you set the file you want the information to be written to.
>  you make the configurations you see in the link above (uncheck "Save
>  as XML" so you save as CSV). also, check "save column names (CSV)" -
>  you will have names for each column so you can read it / edit etc.
>
>  a jtl file will be generated, but it has CSV content. you can load
>  this file later (in most listeners) and check out the results again.
>
>  read more for further detalis:
>  http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/listeners.html#csvlogformat.
>
>  On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Hembha, Ambanna
>  <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>  > After test completed; I can save this file, but I cannot write this information directly while test execution to CSV file?
>  >
>  > Thanks
>  > Ambs
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: Noel O'Brien [mailto:nobrien@newbay.com]
>  > Sent: 14 September 2009 14:17
>  > To: JMeter Users List
>  > Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding help please
>  >
>  > That information is calculated by the SummaryReport Listener. You should load the results file in a SummaryReport Listener after testing is complete in order to calculate these values.
>  >
>  > Regards,
>  > Noel
>  >
>  > ----- "Ambanna Hembha" <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>  >> Hi,
>  >> Thanks sebb & Deepak
>  >>
>  >> I have configured single threadgroup->200 threads test concurrent user test and writing summary report to CSV file.
>  >> But I'm unable to see the details what I have expected
>  >>
>  >> It is not printing in the file
>  >> Label, Samples, Average, Min, Max, Std.div, Error%, throughput, KB/sec, Average bytes
>  >>
>  >> Could you advise me please.
>  >>
>  >> Thanks
>  >> -Ambs
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> -----Original Message-----
>  >> From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>  >> Sent: 11 September 2009 17:22
>  >> To: JMeter Users List
>  >> Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding help please
>  >>
>  >> On 11/09/2009, Deepak Shetty <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >>
>  >> +1 to what Deepak has written.
>  >>
>  >> > Concurrent user test = Any test with > 1 threads. the longer you can keep
>  >> > the test running the more likely it is that you will be able to test the
>  >> > behavior under concurrency accurately. e.g. Running 100 threads with the
>  >> > test repeated say 1000 times is better than Running 100 threads with the
>  >> > test repeated once or ten times.
>  >>
>  >> It's important that the test runs for long enough. That way, any
>  >> startup delays are less significant.
>  >>
>  >> > Distributed test = when you need to generate large amount of load that
>  >> > cannot be generated using a single jmeter client . You run one Jmeter as a
>  >> > 'master' and the rest as slaves. The consensus seems to be thats its better
>  >> > to run different Jmeter instances and then combine the results rather than a
>  >> > distributed JMeter test.
>  >>
>  >> This is because the response data has to be sent back to the master JMeter.
>  >> There are options which can mitigate some of the problems, but the
>  >> master node (or its network interface) can become a bottle-neck.
>  >>
>  >> > so if you want to say generate 1000 concurrent
>  >> > users and you can say generate 250 users per jmeter client (before the
>  >> > client itself becomes a bottleneck), then you'd run 4 different JMeter
>  >> > clients on 4 different machines.
>  >>
>  >> Whether running master-slave or independently, you should make sure
>  >> that the various host system clocks are synchronised. If you cannot
>  >> arrange that, ensure that you record the time variations so you can
>  >> make allowances later if necessary.
>  >>
>  >> > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Hembha, Ambanna
>  >> >
>  >> > <am...@logica.com>wrote:
>  >> >
>  >> > > Hi,
>  >> > >
>  >> > > Jmeter Distributed testing; will be used for concurrent user test ?
>  >> > >
>  >> > > Anybody please help me ?
>  >> > >
>  >> > > -----Original Message-----
>  >> > > From: Hembha, Ambanna [mailto:ambanna.hembha@logica.com]
>  >> > > Sent: 10 September 2009 09:56
>  >> > > To: JMeter Users List
>  >> > > Subject: RE: concurrent user: understanding help please
>  >> > >
>  >> > > Hi,
>  >> > >
>  >> > > To achieve the 100 concurrent users login+search test as advised below, how
>  >> > > many hours and Loop I suppose to run the test.
>  >> > >
>  >> > > Is there any formula to calculate the no. of hours must be run, to achieve
>  >> > > nnn number of concurrent test?
>  >> > >
>  >> > > Thanks in advance
>  >> > > Ambs
>  >> > >
>  >> > >
>  >> > > -----Original Message-----
>  >> > > From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>  >> > > Sent: 09 September 2009 15:27
>  >> > > To: JMeter Users List
>  >> > > Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding
>  >> > >
>  >> > > On 09/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>  >> > > > Hi sebb,
>  >> > > >
>  >> > > >
>  >> > > > -> One thread group1
>  >> > > > No.of threads : 100
>  >> > > > Rampup period: 1
>  >> > > > Loop Count: 1
>  >> > > > -> read the login and password from CVS file
>  >> > > > -> send a HTTP Post request to login server
>  >> > > > -> verify login the result with response assertion
>  >> > > > -> with same session id search and verify the searched text
>  >> > > > -> try to save the results in CVS file to extract the output in
>  >> > > graphical representation
>  >> > > >
>  >> > > > With above example:
>  >> > > > Am I testing with 100 Concurrent Users?
>  >> > >
>  >> > > Probably not.
>  >> > >
>  >> > > Although JMeter runs the threads concurrently, with a loop count of 1
>  >> > > it's possible that the first threads to start will finish before the
>  >> > > last thread gets going.
>  >> > >
>  >> > > A "burst" test like this does not have a chance to reach a steady state.
>  >> > >
>  >> > > You should make sure the test runs for longer so that everything can
>  >> > > settle down.
>  >> > >
>  >> > > > If I have Two Thread group of same above, then it will be 200 concurrent
>  >> > > user ?
>  >> > >
>  >> > > As above.
>  >> > >
>  >> > > >
>  >> > > > Thanks
>  >> > > > Ambs
>  >> > > >
>  >> > > >
>  >> > > >
>  >> > > >
>  >> > > > -----Original Message-----
>  >> > > > From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>  >> > > > Sent: 09 September 2009 13:37
>  >> > > > To: JMeter Users List
>  >> > > > Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding
>  >> > > >
>  >> > > > On 09/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>  >> > > > > Hi,
>  >> > > > >
>  >> > > > >
>  >> > > > >
>  >> > > > > Is number of threads is equals = = number of concurrent users ?
>  >> > > > >
>  >> > > >
>  >> > > > Number of threads == number of users.
>  >> > > >
>  >> > > > These will be run concurrently by JMeter.
>  >> > > >
>  >> > > > Whether they are concurrent or not as far as the server is concerned
>  >> > > > depends on what you mean by concurrent and what the test plan does.
>  >> > > >
>  >> > > > >
>  >> > > > > if answer is yes how many threads or concurrent user I can create,
>  >> > > what
>  >> > > > > is supporting maximum thread limit?
>  >> > > > >
>  >> > > >
>  >> > > > Depends on the test plan, the host, the network.
>  >> > > >
>  >> > > > >
>  >> > > > > Is my understanding is correct.?
>  >> > > > >
>  >> > > > >
>  >> > > > >
>  >> > > > > ambs
>  >> > > > >
>  >> > > > >
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RE: concurrent user: understanding help please

Posted by "Hembha, Ambanna" <am...@logica.com>.
Hi all,

I'm able to configure "simple Data Writer" and writing to csv file.
I have checked "save column names (CSV)", it not saving a coloumn names, but it has all the data whatever I have configured!

how do I write "Summary Report" items: Label, Samples, Average, Min, Max, Std.div, Error%, throughput, KB/sec, Average bytes to CSV file
it could in either window or Linux

thanks
ambs

-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Speteanu [mailto:asp.adieu@gmail.com] 
Sent: 14 September 2009 14:59
To: JMeter Users List
Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding help please

http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/listeners.html#sample_configuration

in the gui element, you set the file you want the information to be written to.
you make the configurations you see in the link above (uncheck "Save
as XML" so you save as CSV). also, check "save column names (CSV)" -
you will have names for each column so you can read it / edit etc.

a jtl file will be generated, but it has CSV content. you can load
this file later (in most listeners) and check out the results again.

read more for further detalis:
http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/listeners.html#csvlogformat.

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Hembha, Ambanna
<am...@logica.com> wrote:
> After test completed; I can save this file, but I cannot write this information directly while test execution to CSV file?
>
> Thanks
> Ambs
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Noel O'Brien [mailto:nobrien@newbay.com]
> Sent: 14 September 2009 14:17
> To: JMeter Users List
> Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding help please
>
> That information is calculated by the SummaryReport Listener. You should load the results file in a SummaryReport Listener after testing is complete in order to calculate these values.
>
> Regards,
> Noel
>
> ----- "Ambanna Hembha" <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Thanks sebb & Deepak
>>
>> I have configured single threadgroup->200 threads test concurrent user test and writing summary report to CSV file.
>> But I'm unable to see the details what I have expected
>>
>> It is not printing in the file
>> Label, Samples, Average, Min, Max, Std.div, Error%, throughput, KB/sec, Average bytes
>>
>> Could you advise me please.
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Ambs
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>> Sent: 11 September 2009 17:22
>> To: JMeter Users List
>> Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding help please
>>
>> On 11/09/2009, Deepak Shetty <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> +1 to what Deepak has written.
>>
>> > Concurrent user test = Any test with > 1 threads. the longer you can keep
>> > the test running the more likely it is that you will be able to test the
>> > behavior under concurrency accurately. e.g. Running 100 threads with the
>> > test repeated say 1000 times is better than Running 100 threads with the
>> > test repeated once or ten times.
>>
>> It's important that the test runs for long enough. That way, any
>> startup delays are less significant.
>>
>> > Distributed test = when you need to generate large amount of load that
>> > cannot be generated using a single jmeter client . You run one Jmeter as a
>> > 'master' and the rest as slaves. The consensus seems to be thats its better
>> > to run different Jmeter instances and then combine the results rather than a
>> > distributed JMeter test.
>>
>> This is because the response data has to be sent back to the master JMeter.
>> There are options which can mitigate some of the problems, but the
>> master node (or its network interface) can become a bottle-neck.
>>
>> > so if you want to say generate 1000 concurrent
>> > users and you can say generate 250 users per jmeter client (before the
>> > client itself becomes a bottleneck), then you'd run 4 different JMeter
>> > clients on 4 different machines.
>>
>> Whether running master-slave or independently, you should make sure
>> that the various host system clocks are synchronised. If you cannot
>> arrange that, ensure that you record the time variations so you can
>> make allowances later if necessary.
>>
>> > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Hembha, Ambanna
>> >
>> > <am...@logica.com>wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > Jmeter Distributed testing; will be used for concurrent user test ?
>> > >
>> > > Anybody please help me ?
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Hembha, Ambanna [mailto:ambanna.hembha@logica.com]
>> > > Sent: 10 September 2009 09:56
>> > > To: JMeter Users List
>> > > Subject: RE: concurrent user: understanding help please
>> > >
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > To achieve the 100 concurrent users login+search test as advised below, how
>> > > many hours and Loop I suppose to run the test.
>> > >
>> > > Is there any formula to calculate the no. of hours must be run, to achieve
>> > > nnn number of concurrent test?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks in advance
>> > > Ambs
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>> > > Sent: 09 September 2009 15:27
>> > > To: JMeter Users List
>> > > Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding
>> > >
>> > > On 09/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>> > > > Hi sebb,
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > -> One thread group1
>> > > > No.of threads : 100
>> > > > Rampup period: 1
>> > > > Loop Count: 1
>> > > > -> read the login and password from CVS file
>> > > > -> send a HTTP Post request to login server
>> > > > -> verify login the result with response assertion
>> > > > -> with same session id search and verify the searched text
>> > > > -> try to save the results in CVS file to extract the output in
>> > > graphical representation
>> > > >
>> > > > With above example:
>> > > > Am I testing with 100 Concurrent Users?
>> > >
>> > > Probably not.
>> > >
>> > > Although JMeter runs the threads concurrently, with a loop count of 1
>> > > it's possible that the first threads to start will finish before the
>> > > last thread gets going.
>> > >
>> > > A "burst" test like this does not have a chance to reach a steady state.
>> > >
>> > > You should make sure the test runs for longer so that everything can
>> > > settle down.
>> > >
>> > > > If I have Two Thread group of same above, then it will be 200 concurrent
>> > > user ?
>> > >
>> > > As above.
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks
>> > > > Ambs
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>> > > > Sent: 09 September 2009 13:37
>> > > > To: JMeter Users List
>> > > > Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding
>> > > >
>> > > > On 09/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>> > > > > Hi,
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Is number of threads is equals = = number of concurrent users ?
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Number of threads == number of users.
>> > > >
>> > > > These will be run concurrently by JMeter.
>> > > >
>> > > > Whether they are concurrent or not as far as the server is concerned
>> > > > depends on what you mean by concurrent and what the test plan does.
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > if answer is yes how many threads or concurrent user I can create,
>> > > what
>> > > > > is supporting maximum thread limit?
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Depends on the test plan, the host, the network.
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Is my understanding is correct.?
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ambs
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
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RE: concurrent user: understanding help please

Posted by "Hembha, Ambanna" <am...@logica.com>.
I'm able to configure "simple Data Writer" and writing to csv file.
I have checked "save column names (CSV)", it not saving a coloumn names, but it has all the data whatever I have configured!

how do I write "Summary Report" items: Label, Samples, Average, Min, Max, Std.div, Error%, throughput, KB/sec, Average bytes to CSV file

thanks
ambs

-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Speteanu [mailto:asp.adieu@gmail.com] 
Sent: 14 September 2009 14:59
To: JMeter Users List
Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding help please

http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/listeners.html#sample_configuration

in the gui element, you set the file you want the information to be written to.
you make the configurations you see in the link above (uncheck "Save
as XML" so you save as CSV). also, check "save column names (CSV)" -
you will have names for each column so you can read it / edit etc.

a jtl file will be generated, but it has CSV content. you can load
this file later (in most listeners) and check out the results again.

read more for further detalis:
http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/listeners.html#csvlogformat.

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Hembha, Ambanna
<am...@logica.com> wrote:
> After test completed; I can save this file, but I cannot write this information directly while test execution to CSV file?
>
> Thanks
> Ambs
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Noel O'Brien [mailto:nobrien@newbay.com]
> Sent: 14 September 2009 14:17
> To: JMeter Users List
> Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding help please
>
> That information is calculated by the SummaryReport Listener. You should load the results file in a SummaryReport Listener after testing is complete in order to calculate these values.
>
> Regards,
> Noel
>
> ----- "Ambanna Hembha" <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Thanks sebb & Deepak
>>
>> I have configured single threadgroup->200 threads test concurrent user test and writing summary report to CSV file.
>> But I'm unable to see the details what I have expected
>>
>> It is not printing in the file
>> Label, Samples, Average, Min, Max, Std.div, Error%, throughput, KB/sec, Average bytes
>>
>> Could you advise me please.
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Ambs
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>> Sent: 11 September 2009 17:22
>> To: JMeter Users List
>> Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding help please
>>
>> On 11/09/2009, Deepak Shetty <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> +1 to what Deepak has written.
>>
>> > Concurrent user test = Any test with > 1 threads. the longer you can keep
>> > the test running the more likely it is that you will be able to test the
>> > behavior under concurrency accurately. e.g. Running 100 threads with the
>> > test repeated say 1000 times is better than Running 100 threads with the
>> > test repeated once or ten times.
>>
>> It's important that the test runs for long enough. That way, any
>> startup delays are less significant.
>>
>> > Distributed test = when you need to generate large amount of load that
>> > cannot be generated using a single jmeter client . You run one Jmeter as a
>> > 'master' and the rest as slaves. The consensus seems to be thats its better
>> > to run different Jmeter instances and then combine the results rather than a
>> > distributed JMeter test.
>>
>> This is because the response data has to be sent back to the master JMeter.
>> There are options which can mitigate some of the problems, but the
>> master node (or its network interface) can become a bottle-neck.
>>
>> > so if you want to say generate 1000 concurrent
>> > users and you can say generate 250 users per jmeter client (before the
>> > client itself becomes a bottleneck), then you'd run 4 different JMeter
>> > clients on 4 different machines.
>>
>> Whether running master-slave or independently, you should make sure
>> that the various host system clocks are synchronised. If you cannot
>> arrange that, ensure that you record the time variations so you can
>> make allowances later if necessary.
>>
>> > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Hembha, Ambanna
>> >
>> > <am...@logica.com>wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > Jmeter Distributed testing; will be used for concurrent user test ?
>> > >
>> > > Anybody please help me ?
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Hembha, Ambanna [mailto:ambanna.hembha@logica.com]
>> > > Sent: 10 September 2009 09:56
>> > > To: JMeter Users List
>> > > Subject: RE: concurrent user: understanding help please
>> > >
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > To achieve the 100 concurrent users login+search test as advised below, how
>> > > many hours and Loop I suppose to run the test.
>> > >
>> > > Is there any formula to calculate the no. of hours must be run, to achieve
>> > > nnn number of concurrent test?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks in advance
>> > > Ambs
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>> > > Sent: 09 September 2009 15:27
>> > > To: JMeter Users List
>> > > Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding
>> > >
>> > > On 09/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>> > > > Hi sebb,
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > -> One thread group1
>> > > > No.of threads : 100
>> > > > Rampup period: 1
>> > > > Loop Count: 1
>> > > > -> read the login and password from CVS file
>> > > > -> send a HTTP Post request to login server
>> > > > -> verify login the result with response assertion
>> > > > -> with same session id search and verify the searched text
>> > > > -> try to save the results in CVS file to extract the output in
>> > > graphical representation
>> > > >
>> > > > With above example:
>> > > > Am I testing with 100 Concurrent Users?
>> > >
>> > > Probably not.
>> > >
>> > > Although JMeter runs the threads concurrently, with a loop count of 1
>> > > it's possible that the first threads to start will finish before the
>> > > last thread gets going.
>> > >
>> > > A "burst" test like this does not have a chance to reach a steady state.
>> > >
>> > > You should make sure the test runs for longer so that everything can
>> > > settle down.
>> > >
>> > > > If I have Two Thread group of same above, then it will be 200 concurrent
>> > > user ?
>> > >
>> > > As above.
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks
>> > > > Ambs
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>> > > > Sent: 09 September 2009 13:37
>> > > > To: JMeter Users List
>> > > > Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding
>> > > >
>> > > > On 09/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>> > > > > Hi,
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Is number of threads is equals = = number of concurrent users ?
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Number of threads == number of users.
>> > > >
>> > > > These will be run concurrently by JMeter.
>> > > >
>> > > > Whether they are concurrent or not as far as the server is concerned
>> > > > depends on what you mean by concurrent and what the test plan does.
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > if answer is yes how many threads or concurrent user I can create,
>> > > what
>> > > > > is supporting maximum thread limit?
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Depends on the test plan, the host, the network.
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Is my understanding is correct.?
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ambs
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
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Re: concurrent user: understanding help please

Posted by Adrian Speteanu <as...@gmail.com>.
http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/listeners.html#sample_configuration

in the gui element, you set the file you want the information to be written to.
you make the configurations you see in the link above (uncheck "Save
as XML" so you save as CSV). also, check "save column names (CSV)" -
you will have names for each column so you can read it / edit etc.

a jtl file will be generated, but it has CSV content. you can load
this file later (in most listeners) and check out the results again.

read more for further detalis:
http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/listeners.html#csvlogformat.

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Hembha, Ambanna
<am...@logica.com> wrote:
> After test completed; I can save this file, but I cannot write this information directly while test execution to CSV file?
>
> Thanks
> Ambs
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Noel O'Brien [mailto:nobrien@newbay.com]
> Sent: 14 September 2009 14:17
> To: JMeter Users List
> Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding help please
>
> That information is calculated by the SummaryReport Listener. You should load the results file in a SummaryReport Listener after testing is complete in order to calculate these values.
>
> Regards,
> Noel
>
> ----- "Ambanna Hembha" <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Thanks sebb & Deepak
>>
>> I have configured single threadgroup->200 threads test concurrent user test and writing summary report to CSV file.
>> But I'm unable to see the details what I have expected
>>
>> It is not printing in the file
>> Label, Samples, Average, Min, Max, Std.div, Error%, throughput, KB/sec, Average bytes
>>
>> Could you advise me please.
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Ambs
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>> Sent: 11 September 2009 17:22
>> To: JMeter Users List
>> Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding help please
>>
>> On 11/09/2009, Deepak Shetty <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> +1 to what Deepak has written.
>>
>> > Concurrent user test = Any test with > 1 threads. the longer you can keep
>> > the test running the more likely it is that you will be able to test the
>> > behavior under concurrency accurately. e.g. Running 100 threads with the
>> > test repeated say 1000 times is better than Running 100 threads with the
>> > test repeated once or ten times.
>>
>> It's important that the test runs for long enough. That way, any
>> startup delays are less significant.
>>
>> > Distributed test = when you need to generate large amount of load that
>> > cannot be generated using a single jmeter client . You run one Jmeter as a
>> > 'master' and the rest as slaves. The consensus seems to be thats its better
>> > to run different Jmeter instances and then combine the results rather than a
>> > distributed JMeter test.
>>
>> This is because the response data has to be sent back to the master JMeter.
>> There are options which can mitigate some of the problems, but the
>> master node (or its network interface) can become a bottle-neck.
>>
>> > so if you want to say generate 1000 concurrent
>> > users and you can say generate 250 users per jmeter client (before the
>> > client itself becomes a bottleneck), then you'd run 4 different JMeter
>> > clients on 4 different machines.
>>
>> Whether running master-slave or independently, you should make sure
>> that the various host system clocks are synchronised. If you cannot
>> arrange that, ensure that you record the time variations so you can
>> make allowances later if necessary.
>>
>> > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Hembha, Ambanna
>> >
>> > <am...@logica.com>wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > Jmeter Distributed testing; will be used for concurrent user test ?
>> > >
>> > > Anybody please help me ?
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Hembha, Ambanna [mailto:ambanna.hembha@logica.com]
>> > > Sent: 10 September 2009 09:56
>> > > To: JMeter Users List
>> > > Subject: RE: concurrent user: understanding help please
>> > >
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > To achieve the 100 concurrent users login+search test as advised below, how
>> > > many hours and Loop I suppose to run the test.
>> > >
>> > > Is there any formula to calculate the no. of hours must be run, to achieve
>> > > nnn number of concurrent test?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks in advance
>> > > Ambs
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>> > > Sent: 09 September 2009 15:27
>> > > To: JMeter Users List
>> > > Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding
>> > >
>> > > On 09/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>> > > > Hi sebb,
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > -> One thread group1
>> > > > No.of threads : 100
>> > > > Rampup period: 1
>> > > > Loop Count: 1
>> > > > -> read the login and password from CVS file
>> > > > -> send a HTTP Post request to login server
>> > > > -> verify login the result with response assertion
>> > > > -> with same session id search and verify the searched text
>> > > > -> try to save the results in CVS file to extract the output in
>> > > graphical representation
>> > > >
>> > > > With above example:
>> > > > Am I testing with 100 Concurrent Users?
>> > >
>> > > Probably not.
>> > >
>> > > Although JMeter runs the threads concurrently, with a loop count of 1
>> > > it's possible that the first threads to start will finish before the
>> > > last thread gets going.
>> > >
>> > > A "burst" test like this does not have a chance to reach a steady state.
>> > >
>> > > You should make sure the test runs for longer so that everything can
>> > > settle down.
>> > >
>> > > > If I have Two Thread group of same above, then it will be 200 concurrent
>> > > user ?
>> > >
>> > > As above.
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks
>> > > > Ambs
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>> > > > Sent: 09 September 2009 13:37
>> > > > To: JMeter Users List
>> > > > Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding
>> > > >
>> > > > On 09/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>> > > > > Hi,
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Is number of threads is equals = = number of concurrent users ?
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Number of threads == number of users.
>> > > >
>> > > > These will be run concurrently by JMeter.
>> > > >
>> > > > Whether they are concurrent or not as far as the server is concerned
>> > > > depends on what you mean by concurrent and what the test plan does.
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > if answer is yes how many threads or concurrent user I can create,
>> > > what
>> > > > > is supporting maximum thread limit?
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Depends on the test plan, the host, the network.
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Is my understanding is correct.?
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ambs
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
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RE: concurrent user: understanding help please

Posted by "Hembha, Ambanna" <am...@logica.com>.
After test completed; I can save this file, but I cannot write this information directly while test execution to CSV file?

Thanks
Ambs

-----Original Message-----
From: Noel O'Brien [mailto:nobrien@newbay.com] 
Sent: 14 September 2009 14:17
To: JMeter Users List
Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding help please

That information is calculated by the SummaryReport Listener. You should load the results file in a SummaryReport Listener after testing is complete in order to calculate these values. 

Regards, 
Noel 

----- "Ambanna Hembha" <am...@logica.com> wrote: 
> Hi, 
> Thanks sebb & Deepak 
> 
> I have configured single threadgroup->200 threads test concurrent user test and writing summary report to CSV file. 
> But I'm unable to see the details what I have expected 
> 
> It is not printing in the file 
> Label, Samples, Average, Min, Max, Std.div, Error%, throughput, KB/sec, Average bytes 
> 
> Could you advise me please. 
> 
> Thanks 
> -Ambs 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com] 
> Sent: 11 September 2009 17:22 
> To: JMeter Users List 
> Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding help please 
> 
> On 11/09/2009, Deepak Shetty <sh...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> +1 to what Deepak has written. 
> 
> > Concurrent user test = Any test with > 1 threads. the longer you can keep 
> > the test running the more likely it is that you will be able to test the 
> > behavior under concurrency accurately. e.g. Running 100 threads with the 
> > test repeated say 1000 times is better than Running 100 threads with the 
> > test repeated once or ten times. 
> 
> It's important that the test runs for long enough. That way, any 
> startup delays are less significant. 
> 
> > Distributed test = when you need to generate large amount of load that 
> > cannot be generated using a single jmeter client . You run one Jmeter as a 
> > 'master' and the rest as slaves. The consensus seems to be thats its better 
> > to run different Jmeter instances and then combine the results rather than a 
> > distributed JMeter test. 
> 
> This is because the response data has to be sent back to the master JMeter. 
> There are options which can mitigate some of the problems, but the 
> master node (or its network interface) can become a bottle-neck. 
> 
> > so if you want to say generate 1000 concurrent 
> > users and you can say generate 250 users per jmeter client (before the 
> > client itself becomes a bottleneck), then you'd run 4 different JMeter 
> > clients on 4 different machines. 
> 
> Whether running master-slave or independently, you should make sure 
> that the various host system clocks are synchronised. If you cannot 
> arrange that, ensure that you record the time variations so you can 
> make allowances later if necessary. 
> 
> > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Hembha, Ambanna 
> > 
> > <am...@logica.com>wrote: 
> > 
> > > Hi, 
> > > 
> > > Jmeter Distributed testing; will be used for concurrent user test ? 
> > > 
> > > Anybody please help me ? 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message----- 
> > > From: Hembha, Ambanna [mailto:ambanna.hembha@logica.com] 
> > > Sent: 10 September 2009 09:56 
> > > To: JMeter Users List 
> > > Subject: RE: concurrent user: understanding help please 
> > > 
> > > Hi, 
> > > 
> > > To achieve the 100 concurrent users login+search test as advised below, how 
> > > many hours and Loop I suppose to run the test. 
> > > 
> > > Is there any formula to calculate the no. of hours must be run, to achieve 
> > > nnn number of concurrent test? 
> > > 
> > > Thanks in advance 
> > > Ambs 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message----- 
> > > From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com] 
> > > Sent: 09 September 2009 15:27 
> > > To: JMeter Users List 
> > > Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding 
> > > 
> > > On 09/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote: 
> > > > Hi sebb, 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -> One thread group1 
> > > > No.of threads : 100 
> > > > Rampup period: 1 
> > > > Loop Count: 1 
> > > > -> read the login and password from CVS file 
> > > > -> send a HTTP Post request to login server 
> > > > -> verify login the result with response assertion 
> > > > -> with same session id search and verify the searched text 
> > > > -> try to save the results in CVS file to extract the output in 
> > > graphical representation 
> > > > 
> > > > With above example: 
> > > > Am I testing with 100 Concurrent Users? 
> > > 
> > > Probably not. 
> > > 
> > > Although JMeter runs the threads concurrently, with a loop count of 1 
> > > it's possible that the first threads to start will finish before the 
> > > last thread gets going. 
> > > 
> > > A "burst" test like this does not have a chance to reach a steady state. 
> > > 
> > > You should make sure the test runs for longer so that everything can 
> > > settle down. 
> > > 
> > > > If I have Two Thread group of same above, then it will be 200 concurrent 
> > > user ? 
> > > 
> > > As above. 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks 
> > > > Ambs 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message----- 
> > > > From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com] 
> > > > Sent: 09 September 2009 13:37 
> > > > To: JMeter Users List 
> > > > Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding 
> > > > 
> > > > On 09/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote: 
> > > > > Hi, 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Is number of threads is equals = = number of concurrent users ? 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Number of threads == number of users. 
> > > > 
> > > > These will be run concurrently by JMeter. 
> > > > 
> > > > Whether they are concurrent or not as far as the server is concerned 
> > > > depends on what you mean by concurrent and what the test plan does. 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > if answer is yes how many threads or concurrent user I can create, 
> > > what 
> > > > > is supporting maximum thread limit? 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Depends on the test plan, the host, the network. 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Is my understanding is correct.? 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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Re: concurrent user: understanding help please

Posted by Noel O'Brien <no...@newbay.com>.
That information is calculated by the SummaryReport Listener. You should load the results file in a SummaryReport Listener after testing is complete in order to calculate these values. 

Regards, 
Noel 

----- "Ambanna Hembha" <am...@logica.com> wrote: 
> Hi, 
> Thanks sebb & Deepak 
> 
> I have configured single threadgroup->200 threads test concurrent user test and writing summary report to CSV file. 
> But I'm unable to see the details what I have expected 
> 
> It is not printing in the file 
> Label, Samples, Average, Min, Max, Std.div, Error%, throughput, KB/sec, Average bytes 
> 
> Could you advise me please. 
> 
> Thanks 
> -Ambs 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com] 
> Sent: 11 September 2009 17:22 
> To: JMeter Users List 
> Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding help please 
> 
> On 11/09/2009, Deepak Shetty <sh...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> +1 to what Deepak has written. 
> 
> > Concurrent user test = Any test with > 1 threads. the longer you can keep 
> > the test running the more likely it is that you will be able to test the 
> > behavior under concurrency accurately. e.g. Running 100 threads with the 
> > test repeated say 1000 times is better than Running 100 threads with the 
> > test repeated once or ten times. 
> 
> It's important that the test runs for long enough. That way, any 
> startup delays are less significant. 
> 
> > Distributed test = when you need to generate large amount of load that 
> > cannot be generated using a single jmeter client . You run one Jmeter as a 
> > 'master' and the rest as slaves. The consensus seems to be thats its better 
> > to run different Jmeter instances and then combine the results rather than a 
> > distributed JMeter test. 
> 
> This is because the response data has to be sent back to the master JMeter. 
> There are options which can mitigate some of the problems, but the 
> master node (or its network interface) can become a bottle-neck. 
> 
> > so if you want to say generate 1000 concurrent 
> > users and you can say generate 250 users per jmeter client (before the 
> > client itself becomes a bottleneck), then you'd run 4 different JMeter 
> > clients on 4 different machines. 
> 
> Whether running master-slave or independently, you should make sure 
> that the various host system clocks are synchronised. If you cannot 
> arrange that, ensure that you record the time variations so you can 
> make allowances later if necessary. 
> 
> > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Hembha, Ambanna 
> > 
> > <am...@logica.com>wrote: 
> > 
> > > Hi, 
> > > 
> > > Jmeter Distributed testing; will be used for concurrent user test ? 
> > > 
> > > Anybody please help me ? 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message----- 
> > > From: Hembha, Ambanna [mailto:ambanna.hembha@logica.com] 
> > > Sent: 10 September 2009 09:56 
> > > To: JMeter Users List 
> > > Subject: RE: concurrent user: understanding help please 
> > > 
> > > Hi, 
> > > 
> > > To achieve the 100 concurrent users login+search test as advised below, how 
> > > many hours and Loop I suppose to run the test. 
> > > 
> > > Is there any formula to calculate the no. of hours must be run, to achieve 
> > > nnn number of concurrent test? 
> > > 
> > > Thanks in advance 
> > > Ambs 
> > > 
> > > 
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> > > From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com] 
> > > Sent: 09 September 2009 15:27 
> > > To: JMeter Users List 
> > > Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding 
> > > 
> > > On 09/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote: 
> > > > Hi sebb, 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -> One thread group1 
> > > > No.of threads : 100 
> > > > Rampup period: 1 
> > > > Loop Count: 1 
> > > > -> read the login and password from CVS file 
> > > > -> send a HTTP Post request to login server 
> > > > -> verify login the result with response assertion 
> > > > -> with same session id search and verify the searched text 
> > > > -> try to save the results in CVS file to extract the output in 
> > > graphical representation 
> > > > 
> > > > With above example: 
> > > > Am I testing with 100 Concurrent Users? 
> > > 
> > > Probably not. 
> > > 
> > > Although JMeter runs the threads concurrently, with a loop count of 1 
> > > it's possible that the first threads to start will finish before the 
> > > last thread gets going. 
> > > 
> > > A "burst" test like this does not have a chance to reach a steady state. 
> > > 
> > > You should make sure the test runs for longer so that everything can 
> > > settle down. 
> > > 
> > > > If I have Two Thread group of same above, then it will be 200 concurrent 
> > > user ? 
> > > 
> > > As above. 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks 
> > > > Ambs 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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> > > > From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com] 
> > > > Sent: 09 September 2009 13:37 
> > > > To: JMeter Users List 
> > > > Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding 
> > > > 
> > > > On 09/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote: 
> > > > > Hi, 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Is number of threads is equals = = number of concurrent users ? 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Number of threads == number of users. 
> > > > 
> > > > These will be run concurrently by JMeter. 
> > > > 
> > > > Whether they are concurrent or not as far as the server is concerned 
> > > > depends on what you mean by concurrent and what the test plan does. 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > if answer is yes how many threads or concurrent user I can create, 
> > > what 
> > > > > is supporting maximum thread limit? 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Depends on the test plan, the host, the network. 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Is my understanding is correct.? 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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RE: concurrent user: understanding help please

Posted by "Hembha, Ambanna" <am...@logica.com>.
Hi,
Thanks sebb & Deepak

I have configured single threadgroup->200 threads test concurrent user test and writing summary report to CSV file.
But I'm unable to see the details what I have expected

It is not printing in the file
Label, Samples, Average, Min, Max, Std.div, Error%, throughput, KB/sec, Average bytes

Could you advise me please.

Thanks
-Ambs



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Sent: 11 September 2009 17:22
To: JMeter Users List
Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding help please

On 11/09/2009, Deepak Shetty <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:

+1 to what Deepak has written.

> Concurrent user test = Any test with  > 1 threads. the longer you can keep
>  the test running the more likely it is that you will be able to test the
>  behavior under concurrency accurately. e.g. Running 100 threads with the
>  test repeated say 1000 times is better than Running 100 threads with the
>  test repeated once or ten times.

It's important that the test runs for long enough. That way, any
startup delays are less significant.

>  Distributed test = when you need to generate large amount of load that
>  cannot be generated using a single jmeter client . You run one Jmeter as a
>  'master' and the rest as slaves. The consensus seems to be thats its better
>  to run different Jmeter instances and then combine the results rather than a
>  distributed JMeter test.

This is because the response data has to be sent back to the master JMeter.
There are options which can mitigate some of the problems, but the
master node (or its network interface) can become a bottle-neck.

>  so if you want to say generate 1000 concurrent
>  users and you can say generate 250 users per jmeter client (before the
>  client itself becomes a bottleneck), then you'd run 4 different JMeter
>  clients on 4 different machines.

Whether running master-slave or independently, you should make sure
that the various host system clocks are synchronised. If you cannot
arrange that, ensure that you record the time variations so you can
make allowances later if necessary.

>  On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Hembha, Ambanna
>
> <am...@logica.com>wrote:
>
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > Jmeter Distributed testing; will be used for concurrent user test ?
>  >
>  > Anybody please help me ?
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: Hembha, Ambanna [mailto:ambanna.hembha@logica.com]
>  > Sent: 10 September 2009 09:56
>  > To: JMeter Users List
>  > Subject: RE: concurrent user: understanding help please
>  >
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > To achieve the 100 concurrent users login+search test as advised below, how
>  > many hours and Loop I suppose to run the test.
>  >
>  > Is there any formula to calculate the no. of hours must be run, to achieve
>  > nnn number of concurrent test?
>  >
>  > Thanks in advance
>  > Ambs
>  >
>  >
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>  > From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>  > Sent: 09 September 2009 15:27
>  > To: JMeter Users List
>  > Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding
>  >
>  > On 09/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>  > > Hi sebb,
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >  -> One thread group1
>  > >         No.of threads : 100
>  > >         Rampup period: 1
>  > >         Loop Count: 1
>  > >         -> read the login and password from CVS file
>  > >         -> send a HTTP Post request to login server
>  > >         -> verify login the result with response assertion
>  > >         -> with same session id search and verify the searched text
>  > >         -> try to save the results in CVS file to extract the output in
>  > graphical representation
>  > >
>  > >  With above example:
>  > >  Am I testing with 100 Concurrent Users?
>  >
>  > Probably not.
>  >
>  > Although JMeter runs the threads concurrently, with a loop count of 1
>  > it's possible that the first threads to start will finish before the
>  > last thread gets going.
>  >
>  > A "burst" test like this does not have a chance to reach a steady state.
>  >
>  > You should make sure the test runs for longer so that everything can
>  > settle down.
>  >
>  > >  If I have Two Thread group of same above, then it will be 200 concurrent
>  > user ?
>  >
>  > As above.
>  >
>  > >
>  > >  Thanks
>  > >  Ambs
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >  -----Original Message-----
>  > >  From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>  > >  Sent: 09 September 2009 13:37
>  > >  To: JMeter Users List
>  > >  Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding
>  > >
>  > >  On 09/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>  > >  > Hi,
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
>  > >  >  Is number of threads is equals = = number of concurrent users ?
>  > >  >
>  > >
>  > >  Number of threads == number of users.
>  > >
>  > >  These will be run concurrently by JMeter.
>  > >
>  > >  Whether they are concurrent or not as far as the server is concerned
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>  > >
>  > >  >
>  > >  >  if answer is yes how many threads or concurrent user I can create,
>  >  what
>  > >  >  is supporting maximum thread limit?
>  > >  >
>  > >
>  > >  Depends on the test plan, the host, the network.
>  > >
>  > >  >
>  > >  >  Is my understanding is correct.?
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
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Re: concurrent user: understanding help please

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 11/09/2009, Deepak Shetty <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:

+1 to what Deepak has written.

> Concurrent user test = Any test with  > 1 threads. the longer you can keep
>  the test running the more likely it is that you will be able to test the
>  behavior under concurrency accurately. e.g. Running 100 threads with the
>  test repeated say 1000 times is better than Running 100 threads with the
>  test repeated once or ten times.

It's important that the test runs for long enough. That way, any
startup delays are less significant.

>  Distributed test = when you need to generate large amount of load that
>  cannot be generated using a single jmeter client . You run one Jmeter as a
>  'master' and the rest as slaves. The consensus seems to be thats its better
>  to run different Jmeter instances and then combine the results rather than a
>  distributed JMeter test.

This is because the response data has to be sent back to the master JMeter.
There are options which can mitigate some of the problems, but the
master node (or its network interface) can become a bottle-neck.

>  so if you want to say generate 1000 concurrent
>  users and you can say generate 250 users per jmeter client (before the
>  client itself becomes a bottleneck), then you'd run 4 different JMeter
>  clients on 4 different machines.

Whether running master-slave or independently, you should make sure
that the various host system clocks are synchronised. If you cannot
arrange that, ensure that you record the time variations so you can
make allowances later if necessary.

>  On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Hembha, Ambanna
>
> <am...@logica.com>wrote:
>
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > Jmeter Distributed testing; will be used for concurrent user test ?
>  >
>  > Anybody please help me ?
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: Hembha, Ambanna [mailto:ambanna.hembha@logica.com]
>  > Sent: 10 September 2009 09:56
>  > To: JMeter Users List
>  > Subject: RE: concurrent user: understanding help please
>  >
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > To achieve the 100 concurrent users login+search test as advised below, how
>  > many hours and Loop I suppose to run the test.
>  >
>  > Is there any formula to calculate the no. of hours must be run, to achieve
>  > nnn number of concurrent test?
>  >
>  > Thanks in advance
>  > Ambs
>  >
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>  > Sent: 09 September 2009 15:27
>  > To: JMeter Users List
>  > Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding
>  >
>  > On 09/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>  > > Hi sebb,
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >  -> One thread group1
>  > >         No.of threads : 100
>  > >         Rampup period: 1
>  > >         Loop Count: 1
>  > >         -> read the login and password from CVS file
>  > >         -> send a HTTP Post request to login server
>  > >         -> verify login the result with response assertion
>  > >         -> with same session id search and verify the searched text
>  > >         -> try to save the results in CVS file to extract the output in
>  > graphical representation
>  > >
>  > >  With above example:
>  > >  Am I testing with 100 Concurrent Users?
>  >
>  > Probably not.
>  >
>  > Although JMeter runs the threads concurrently, with a loop count of 1
>  > it's possible that the first threads to start will finish before the
>  > last thread gets going.
>  >
>  > A "burst" test like this does not have a chance to reach a steady state.
>  >
>  > You should make sure the test runs for longer so that everything can
>  > settle down.
>  >
>  > >  If I have Two Thread group of same above, then it will be 200 concurrent
>  > user ?
>  >
>  > As above.
>  >
>  > >
>  > >  Thanks
>  > >  Ambs
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >  -----Original Message-----
>  > >  From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>  > >  Sent: 09 September 2009 13:37
>  > >  To: JMeter Users List
>  > >  Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding
>  > >
>  > >  On 09/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>  > >  > Hi,
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
>  > >  >  Is number of threads is equals = = number of concurrent users ?
>  > >  >
>  > >
>  > >  Number of threads == number of users.
>  > >
>  > >  These will be run concurrently by JMeter.
>  > >
>  > >  Whether they are concurrent or not as far as the server is concerned
>  > >  depends on what you mean by concurrent and what the test plan does.
>  > >
>  > >  >
>  > >  >  if answer is yes how many threads or concurrent user I can create,
>  >  what
>  > >  >  is supporting maximum thread limit?
>  > >  >
>  > >
>  > >  Depends on the test plan, the host, the network.
>  > >
>  > >  >
>  > >  >  Is my understanding is correct.?
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
>  > >  >  ambs
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
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Re: concurrent user: understanding help please

Posted by Deepak Shetty <sh...@gmail.com>.
Concurrent user test = Any test with  > 1 threads. the longer you can keep
the test running the more likely it is that you will be able to test the
behavior under concurrency accurately. e.g. Running 100 threads with the
test repeated say 1000 times is better than Running 100 threads with the
test repeated once or ten times.

Distributed test = when you need to generate large amount of load that
cannot be generated using a single jmeter client . You run one Jmeter as a
'master' and the rest as slaves. The consensus seems to be thats its better
to run different Jmeter instances and then combine the results rather than a
distributed JMeter test. so if you want to say generate 1000 concurrent
users and you can say generate 250 users per jmeter client (before the
client itself becomes a bottleneck), then you'd run 4 different JMeter
clients on 4 different machines.


On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Hembha, Ambanna
<am...@logica.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Jmeter Distributed testing; will be used for concurrent user test ?
>
> Anybody please help me ?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hembha, Ambanna [mailto:ambanna.hembha@logica.com]
> Sent: 10 September 2009 09:56
> To: JMeter Users List
> Subject: RE: concurrent user: understanding help please
>
> Hi,
>
> To achieve the 100 concurrent users login+search test as advised below, how
> many hours and Loop I suppose to run the test.
>
> Is there any formula to calculate the no. of hours must be run, to achieve
> nnn number of concurrent test?
>
> Thanks in advance
> Ambs
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
> Sent: 09 September 2009 15:27
> To: JMeter Users List
> Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding
>
> On 09/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
> > Hi sebb,
> >
> >
> >  -> One thread group1
> >         No.of threads : 100
> >         Rampup period: 1
> >         Loop Count: 1
> >         -> read the login and password from CVS file
> >         -> send a HTTP Post request to login server
> >         -> verify login the result with response assertion
> >         -> with same session id search and verify the searched text
> >         -> try to save the results in CVS file to extract the output in
> graphical representation
> >
> >  With above example:
> >  Am I testing with 100 Concurrent Users?
>
> Probably not.
>
> Although JMeter runs the threads concurrently, with a loop count of 1
> it's possible that the first threads to start will finish before the
> last thread gets going.
>
> A "burst" test like this does not have a chance to reach a steady state.
>
> You should make sure the test runs for longer so that everything can
> settle down.
>
> >  If I have Two Thread group of same above, then it will be 200 concurrent
> user ?
>
> As above.
>
> >
> >  Thanks
> >  Ambs
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> >  From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
> >  Sent: 09 September 2009 13:37
> >  To: JMeter Users List
> >  Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding
> >
> >  On 09/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
> >  > Hi,
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >  Is number of threads is equals = = number of concurrent users ?
> >  >
> >
> >  Number of threads == number of users.
> >
> >  These will be run concurrently by JMeter.
> >
> >  Whether they are concurrent or not as far as the server is concerned
> >  depends on what you mean by concurrent and what the test plan does.
> >
> >  >
> >  >  if answer is yes how many threads or concurrent user I can create,
>  what
> >  >  is supporting maximum thread limit?
> >  >
> >
> >  Depends on the test plan, the host, the network.
> >
> >  >
> >  >  Is my understanding is correct.?
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >  ambs
> >  >
> >  >
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RE: concurrent user: understanding help please

Posted by "Hembha, Ambanna" <am...@logica.com>.
Hi,

Jmeter Distributed testing; will be used for concurrent user test ?

Anybody please help me ?

-----Original Message-----
From: Hembha, Ambanna [mailto:ambanna.hembha@logica.com] 
Sent: 10 September 2009 09:56
To: JMeter Users List
Subject: RE: concurrent user: understanding help please

Hi,

To achieve the 100 concurrent users login+search test as advised below, how many hours and Loop I suppose to run the test.

Is there any formula to calculate the no. of hours must be run, to achieve nnn number of concurrent test?

Thanks in advance
Ambs


-----Original Message-----
From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com] 
Sent: 09 September 2009 15:27
To: JMeter Users List
Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding

On 09/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
> Hi sebb,
>
>
>  -> One thread group1
>         No.of threads : 100
>         Rampup period: 1
>         Loop Count: 1
>         -> read the login and password from CVS file
>         -> send a HTTP Post request to login server
>         -> verify login the result with response assertion
>         -> with same session id search and verify the searched text
>         -> try to save the results in CVS file to extract the output in graphical representation
>
>  With above example:
>  Am I testing with 100 Concurrent Users?

Probably not.

Although JMeter runs the threads concurrently, with a loop count of 1
it's possible that the first threads to start will finish before the
last thread gets going.

A "burst" test like this does not have a chance to reach a steady state.

You should make sure the test runs for longer so that everything can
settle down.

>  If I have Two Thread group of same above, then it will be 200 concurrent user ?

As above.

>
>  Thanks
>  Ambs
>
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>  Sent: 09 September 2009 13:37
>  To: JMeter Users List
>  Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding
>
>  On 09/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >  Is number of threads is equals = = number of concurrent users ?
>  >
>
>  Number of threads == number of users.
>
>  These will be run concurrently by JMeter.
>
>  Whether they are concurrent or not as far as the server is concerned
>  depends on what you mean by concurrent and what the test plan does.
>
>  >
>  >  if answer is yes how many threads or concurrent user I can create,  what
>  >  is supporting maximum thread limit?
>  >
>
>  Depends on the test plan, the host, the network.
>
>  >
>  >  Is my understanding is correct.?
>  >
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Re: concurrent user: understanding help please

Posted by Adrian Speteanu <as...@gmail.com>.
Trial and error. Try different combination of parameters and see for
your test plan what happens, that is how you find out this.


On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Hembha, Ambanna
<am...@logica.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> To achieve the 100 concurrent users login+search test as advised below, how many hours and Loop I suppose to run the test.

It won't take hours, set thread loops to 1000 for example, see what
happens, it should reach 100 concurrent in a few minutes of the start.

>
> Is there any formula to calculate the no. of hours must be run, to achieve nnn number of concurrent test?

I don't think there is a way to answer your question because it is too
general, vague.

>
> Thanks in advance
> Ambs
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
> Sent: 09 September 2009 15:27
> To: JMeter Users List
> Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding
>
> On 09/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>> Hi sebb,
>>
>>
>>  -> One thread group1
>>         No.of threads : 100
>>         Rampup period: 1
>>         Loop Count: 1
>>         -> read the login and password from CVS file
>>         -> send a HTTP Post request to login server
>>         -> verify login the result with response assertion
>>         -> with same session id search and verify the searched text
>>         -> try to save the results in CVS file to extract the output in graphical representation
>>
>>  With above example:
>>  Am I testing with 100 Concurrent Users?
>
> Probably not.
>
> Although JMeter runs the threads concurrently, with a loop count of 1
> it's possible that the first threads to start will finish before the
> last thread gets going.
>
> A "burst" test like this does not have a chance to reach a steady state.
>
> You should make sure the test runs for longer so that everything can
> settle down.
>
>>  If I have Two Thread group of same above, then it will be 200 concurrent user ?
>
> As above.
>
>>
>>  Thanks
>>  Ambs
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>>  Sent: 09 September 2009 13:37
>>  To: JMeter Users List
>>  Subject: Re: concurrent user: understanding
>>
>>  On 09/09/2009, Hembha, Ambanna <am...@logica.com> wrote:
>>  > Hi,
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >  Is number of threads is equals = = number of concurrent users ?
>>  >
>>
>>  Number of threads == number of users.
>>
>>  These will be run concurrently by JMeter.
>>
>>  Whether they are concurrent or not as far as the server is concerned
>>  depends on what you mean by concurrent and what the test plan does.
>>
>>  >
>>  >  if answer is yes how many threads or concurrent user I can create,  what
>>  >  is supporting maximum thread limit?
>>  >
>>
>>  Depends on the test plan, the host, the network.
>>
>>  >
>>  >  Is my understanding is correct.?
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >  ambs
>>  >
>>  >
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