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Posted to general@xml.apache.org by Jeremias Maerki <de...@greenmail.ch> on 2004/10/31 10:28:46 UTC
[REQUEST] XML Graphics setup
Dear infrastructure people,
the board has recently accepted the proposal for creation of the XML
Graphics project (which is comprised of the XML projects Batik and FOP).
To aid in the process, would infrastructure please do the following:
#=======================================
[0] Subdomain and unix group
The name of the new subdomain and unix group is "xmlgraphics".
#=======================================
[1] Mailing List
(i) addresses
I. general@xmlgraphics.apache.org
II. general-commits@xmlgraphics.apache.org
III. pmc@xmlgraphics.apache.org (private mailing list)
(ia) renames and aliases
I. batik-dev@xml.apache.org to batik-dev@xmlgraphics.apache.org
I. batik-users@xml.apache.org to batik-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org
II. xml-batik-cvs@xml.apache.org to batik-commits@xmlgraphics.apache.org
I. fop-dev@xml.apache.org to fop-dev@xmlgraphics.apache.org
I. fop-users@xml.apache.org to fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org
II. xml-fop-cvs@xml.apache.org to fop-commits@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Please create aliases so the old adresses continue to work!
(ii) remote moderators ...
jeremias@apache.org
chrisg@apache.org
clay@apache.org
(iii) archives
mbox
I. http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/mail/general/YYYYMM.gz
II. http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/mail/general-commits/YYYYMM.gz
If mbox archives are done for PMC lists, too, please create this one,
too.
(iv) options
I. Reply-To: Header [X] yes [ ] no
NOTE: $PROJECT-cvs@$TLP.apache.org -> $PROJECT-dev@$TLP.apache.org
general-commits@xmlgraphics.apache.org -> general@xmlgraphics.apache.org
batik-commits@xmlgraphics.apache.org -> batik-dev@xmlgraphics.apache.org
fop-commits@xmlgraphics.apache.org -> fop-dev@xmlgraphics.apache.org
II. Prefix in Subject [ ] yes [X] no
III. Eyebrowse [X] yes [ ] no
IV. Moderation Message [X] short [ ] long
V. Message Trailer [X] yes [ ] no
(a). general@xmlgraphics.apache.org
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Apache XML Graphics Project URL: http://xmlgraphics.apache.org
E-mail commands & help: general-help@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Unsubscribe e-mail: general-unsubscribe@xmlgraphics.apache.org
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(b). general-commits@xmlgraphics.apache.org
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Apache XML Graphics Project URL: http://xmlgraphics.apache.org
E-mail commands & help: general-commits-help@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Unsubscribe e-mail: general-commits-unsubscribe@xmlgraphics.apache.org
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(c). pmc@xmlgraphics.apache.org
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Apache XML Graphics Project URL: http://xmlgraphics.apache.org
E-mail commands & help: pmc-help@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Unsubscribe e-mail: pmc-unsubscribe@xmlgraphics.apache.org
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[2] Source Tracker
(i) CVS
The xml-batik and xml-fop CVS modules will stay as is for the moment.
Please make sure we also don't lose access to xml-commons.
(ii) SVN
We need a new VC module for the new site. We had no vetoes on using SVN
for the new XML Graphics site.
The projects themselves are probably not quite ready to move to SVN, yet.
But when we have the new SVN module/directory it will probably be easy
to do the move once everyone feels comfortable. So please leave the
xml-batik and xml-fop CVS modules as is for now.
#=======================================
[3] Initial Committer list
In principle all Batik and FOP committers should have access to the new
SVN site directory. There are a lot (!) of people in that list and most
of them are inactive. So if the XML Graphics PMC can add people (don't
know what karma is need for that) you can, for now, just add the people
on the initial PMC list below. Then we can add people ourselves later as
needed.
#=======================================
[3a] Initial PMC list
The following people should be on the new PMC mailing list:
Chris Bowditch (cbowditch@apache.org)
Thomas DeWeese (deweese@apache.org)
Christian Geisert (chrisg@apache.org)
Clay Leeds (clay@apache.org)
Keiron Liddle (keiron@apache.org)
Jeremias Maerki (jeremias@apache.org) [PMC chair]
Glen Mazza (gmazza@apache.org)
Simon Pepping (spepping@apache.org)
Joerg Pietschmann (pietsch@apache.org)
#=======================================
[4] Snapshots
We'll leave the existing batik and fop snapshots as is for the moment.
#=======================================
[5] apsite karma
Please add "chrisg", "clay" and "jeremias" to the apsite group.
#=======================================
I understand this is a lot of work. Thank you very much in advance for
your time! If there are any issues, I'm now subscribed to
infrastructure@ and will be listening in.
Jeremias Maerki
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Re: [REQUEST] XML Graphics setup
Posted by Glen Mazza <gr...@yahoo.com>.
BTW, we do not necessarily need to change the email
addresses for the FOP and Batik mailing lists. It
would nice anyway to keep the archives as one, instead
of needing to bounce between two lists.
We can also wait several months before changing. Who
knows, there may be other changes down the road that
would require the "xmlgraphics" part to change again
anyway. (For example, Apache wishing to group its
TLP's into zones-- XML, Jakarta, WS, etc. In that
case fop-dev@xml.apache.org etc. would still be fine
for a ML name.)
Glen
--- Jeremias Maerki <de...@greenmail.ch> wrote:
> I can't tell what side-effects will arise from what
> I requested. I was
> hoping there weren't any. Why don't you just ask the
> infrastructure
> people? They will know better.
>
> PS. Can we please use general@ for such discussions
> to minimize
> cross-posting? By now, everyone interested in the
> XML Graphics setup
> will be subscribed to general@xml...
Re: [REQUEST] XML Graphics setup
Posted by Jeremias Maerki <de...@greenmail.ch>.
I can't tell what side-effects will arise from what I requested. I was
hoping there weren't any. Why don't you just ask the infrastructure
people? They will know better.
PS. Can we please use general@ for such discussions to minimize
cross-posting? By now, everyone interested in the XML Graphics setup
will be subscribed to general@xml...
On 01.11.2004 16:59:15 Clay Leeds wrote:
> NOTE: This was sent to fop-dev & batik-dev as I have a question about
> the mailing lists I'd like to clarify before we 'ask' infrustructure@.
<snip/>
> When the Apache Forrest project changed to a new domain, they also
> changed from forrest-dev@x.a.o to dev@f.a.o & user@f.a.o.
> Unfortunately, with this change comes (IMHO) a significant problem for
> browsers of the archives: forrest-dev@ mail is a completely separate
> mailing list (with a separate interface). The problem is that
> forrest-dev was used for *all* dev *&* user mailing list traffic, so a
> search in the 'current' mailing lists' archives does not include
> content in forrest-dev (that's a separate search).
>
> For example, with the change to fop-user@xmlgraphics.apache.org, I'd
> like to make certain (if possible or logical) that we don't end up with
> a similar problem.
>
> I'm not certain what the 'solution' looks like (or even if it's a real
> problem!), but I thought we should chat. If it is a problem, we may
> need to set up <mailing-list>@xmlgraphics.apache.org as an alias to
> <mailing-list>@xml.apache.org. IOW, the mailing lists do *not* change
> and we add aliases for @xmlgraphics.a.o.
>
> Is this something we should worry about? IMO, the ability to search
> relevant archives using one search is more important than having a
> 'real' address vs. an alias. We still would want to have all headers
> (e.g., Reply-To:) and trailers set to <mailing-list>@xmlgraphics.a.o
>
> Thoughts?
Jeremias Maerki
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Re: [REQUEST] XML Graphics setup
Posted by Jeremias Maerki <de...@greenmail.ch>.
I can't tell what side-effects will arise from what I requested. I was
hoping there weren't any. Why don't you just ask the infrastructure
people? They will know better.
PS. Can we please use general@ for such discussions to minimize
cross-posting? By now, everyone interested in the XML Graphics setup
will be subscribed to general@xml...
On 01.11.2004 16:59:15 Clay Leeds wrote:
> NOTE: This was sent to fop-dev & batik-dev as I have a question about
> the mailing lists I'd like to clarify before we 'ask' infrustructure@.
<snip/>
> When the Apache Forrest project changed to a new domain, they also
> changed from forrest-dev@x.a.o to dev@f.a.o & user@f.a.o.
> Unfortunately, with this change comes (IMHO) a significant problem for
> browsers of the archives: forrest-dev@ mail is a completely separate
> mailing list (with a separate interface). The problem is that
> forrest-dev was used for *all* dev *&* user mailing list traffic, so a
> search in the 'current' mailing lists' archives does not include
> content in forrest-dev (that's a separate search).
>
> For example, with the change to fop-user@xmlgraphics.apache.org, I'd
> like to make certain (if possible or logical) that we don't end up with
> a similar problem.
>
> I'm not certain what the 'solution' looks like (or even if it's a real
> problem!), but I thought we should chat. If it is a problem, we may
> need to set up <mailing-list>@xmlgraphics.apache.org as an alias to
> <mailing-list>@xml.apache.org. IOW, the mailing lists do *not* change
> and we add aliases for @xmlgraphics.a.o.
>
> Is this something we should worry about? IMO, the ability to search
> relevant archives using one search is more important than having a
> 'real' address vs. an alias. We still would want to have all headers
> (e.g., Reply-To:) and trailers set to <mailing-list>@xmlgraphics.a.o
>
> Thoughts?
Jeremias Maerki
Re: [REQUEST] XML Graphics setup
Posted by Clay Leeds <cl...@medata.com>.
NOTE: This was sent to fop-dev & batik-dev as I have a question about
the mailing lists I'd like to clarify before we 'ask' infrustructure@.
On Oct 31, 2004, at 1:28 AM, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
> Dear infrastructure people,
>
> the board has recently accepted the proposal for creation of the XML
> Graphics project (which is comprised of the XML projects Batik and
> FOP).
> To aid in the process, would infrastructure please do the following:
>
> #=======================================
> [0] Subdomain and unix group
>
> The name of the new subdomain and unix group is "xmlgraphics".
>
> #=======================================
> [1] Mailing List
>
> (i) addresses
>
> I. general@xmlgraphics.apache.org
> II. general-commits@xmlgraphics.apache.org
> III. pmc@xmlgraphics.apache.org (private mailing list)
>
>
> (ia) renames and aliases
>
> I. batik-dev@xml.apache.org to batik-dev@xmlgraphics.apache.org
> I. batik-users@xml.apache.org to batik-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org
> II. xml-batik-cvs@xml.apache.org to
> batik-commits@xmlgraphics.apache.org
> I. fop-dev@xml.apache.org to fop-dev@xmlgraphics.apache.org
> I. fop-users@xml.apache.org to fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org
> II. xml-fop-cvs@xml.apache.org to fop-commits@xmlgraphics.apache.org
>
> Please create aliases so the old adresses continue to work!
When the Apache Forrest project changed to a new domain, they also
changed from forrest-dev@x.a.o to dev@f.a.o & user@f.a.o.
Unfortunately, with this change comes (IMHO) a significant problem for
browsers of the archives: forrest-dev@ mail is a completely separate
mailing list (with a separate interface). The problem is that
forrest-dev was used for *all* dev *&* user mailing list traffic, so a
search in the 'current' mailing lists' archives does not include
content in forrest-dev (that's a separate search).
For example, with the change to fop-user@xmlgraphics.apache.org, I'd
like to make certain (if possible or logical) that we don't end up with
a similar problem.
I'm not certain what the 'solution' looks like (or even if it's a real
problem!), but I thought we should chat. If it is a problem, we may
need to set up <mailing-list>@xmlgraphics.apache.org as an alias to
<mailing-list>@xml.apache.org. IOW, the mailing lists do *not* change
and we add aliases for @xmlgraphics.a.o.
Is this something we should worry about? IMO, the ability to search
relevant archives using one search is more important than having a
'real' address vs. an alias. We still would want to have all headers
(e.g., Reply-To:) and trailers set to <mailing-list>@xmlgraphics.a.o
Thoughts?
Web Maestro Clay
--
Clay Leeds - <cl...@medata.com>
Webmaster/Developer - Medata, Inc. - <http://www.medata.com/>
PGP Public Key: <https://mail.medata.com/pgp/cleeds.asc>
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Re: [REQUEST] XML Graphics setup
Posted by Clay Leeds <cl...@medata.com>.
NOTE: This was sent to fop-dev & batik-dev as I have a question about
the mailing lists I'd like to clarify before we 'ask' infrustructure@.
On Oct 31, 2004, at 1:28 AM, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
> Dear infrastructure people,
>
> the board has recently accepted the proposal for creation of the XML
> Graphics project (which is comprised of the XML projects Batik and
> FOP).
> To aid in the process, would infrastructure please do the following:
>
> #=======================================
> [0] Subdomain and unix group
>
> The name of the new subdomain and unix group is "xmlgraphics".
>
> #=======================================
> [1] Mailing List
>
> (i) addresses
>
> I. general@xmlgraphics.apache.org
> II. general-commits@xmlgraphics.apache.org
> III. pmc@xmlgraphics.apache.org (private mailing list)
>
>
> (ia) renames and aliases
>
> I. batik-dev@xml.apache.org to batik-dev@xmlgraphics.apache.org
> I. batik-users@xml.apache.org to batik-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org
> II. xml-batik-cvs@xml.apache.org to
> batik-commits@xmlgraphics.apache.org
> I. fop-dev@xml.apache.org to fop-dev@xmlgraphics.apache.org
> I. fop-users@xml.apache.org to fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org
> II. xml-fop-cvs@xml.apache.org to fop-commits@xmlgraphics.apache.org
>
> Please create aliases so the old adresses continue to work!
When the Apache Forrest project changed to a new domain, they also
changed from forrest-dev@x.a.o to dev@f.a.o & user@f.a.o.
Unfortunately, with this change comes (IMHO) a significant problem for
browsers of the archives: forrest-dev@ mail is a completely separate
mailing list (with a separate interface). The problem is that
forrest-dev was used for *all* dev *&* user mailing list traffic, so a
search in the 'current' mailing lists' archives does not include
content in forrest-dev (that's a separate search).
For example, with the change to fop-user@xmlgraphics.apache.org, I'd
like to make certain (if possible or logical) that we don't end up with
a similar problem.
I'm not certain what the 'solution' looks like (or even if it's a real
problem!), but I thought we should chat. If it is a problem, we may
need to set up <mailing-list>@xmlgraphics.apache.org as an alias to
<mailing-list>@xml.apache.org. IOW, the mailing lists do *not* change
and we add aliases for @xmlgraphics.a.o.
Is this something we should worry about? IMO, the ability to search
relevant archives using one search is more important than having a
'real' address vs. an alias. We still would want to have all headers
(e.g., Reply-To:) and trailers set to <mailing-list>@xmlgraphics.a.o
Thoughts?
Web Maestro Clay
--
Clay Leeds - <cl...@medata.com>
Webmaster/Developer - Medata, Inc. - <http://www.medata.com/>
PGP Public Key: <https://mail.medata.com/pgp/cleeds.asc>