[Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005

[Ajith Ranabahu <aj...@gmail.com>]

The topic of todays chat was the upcoming M1. There were some concerns
about the site as well.

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[09:03]<Ajith> Hi all
[09:04]<Jaliya> Hi All
[09:04]<Deepal> Hi all
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[09:05]<farhaan> Hi All
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Milestone Release
[09:08]<Chinthaka_> hi all
[09:09]<Ajith> Hey where are all the others
[09:09]<Ajith> ?
[09:10]<farhaan> is this too early/late to start ? 
[09:10]<Chinthaka_> tsunami for all others ;)
[09:10]<Jaliya> It is already 9.10 am here
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[09:14]<Chinthaka_> well shall we start talking about M1 ?
[09:14]<Deepal> good idea
[09:15]<Chinthaka_> anyway, any plans for the date of release ?
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[09:16]<Chinthaka_> I think its some where around 12 or 15
[09:16]<Chinthaka_> next month
[09:17]<farhaan> yes we should be okay with 12th Feb 
[09:17]<farhaan> Let's discuss what is outstanding for the release
[09:17]<Ajith> BTW guys what has happend to glen and all ?
[09:18]<Deepal> We have completed coding stuff for M1
[09:18]<farhaan> as far as i know before the tsunami we were in very
good shape where the functionality was concerned and it was the
documentation that was missing
[09:18]<Deepal> and only documentation has to be done
[09:18]<Jaliya> and examples
[09:19]<Jaliya> I mean samples + docs
[09:19]<Chinthaka_> well I myself and Chathura started with samples
[09:19]<Deepal> yep
[09:19]<farhaan> so can we first get concurrence from all on the
features for M1 as a reminder atleast
[09:19]<Chinthaka_> and the user's guide
[09:19]<Deepal> and I stared archi guide
[09:22]<Ajith> myswlf and srinath did some perf tests
[09:22]<Ajith> and fixed some bugs as well
[09:22]<Chinthaka_> great
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[09:24]<Chinthaka__> hello
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[09:24]<Chinthaka__> helllooooooooooooo
[09:25]<Ajith> yeah
[09:25]<Chinthaka__> oki, i was disconnected
[09:25]<dims> Ajith: do we have some DOM wrapper stuff already?
[09:25]<Chinthaka__> nop
[09:25]<Ajith> nope
[09:25]<Chinthaka__> I don't think its required now
[09:25]<Ajith> not yet
[09:26]<dims> ok. just curious.
[09:26]<Chinthaka__> I started that sometime back
[09:26]<Chinthaka__> but stopped for the time being
[09:26]<Ajith> dims : god thing that you are here
[09:26]<Ajith> :)
[09:26]<dims> may not be here for long :(
[09:27]<dims> i got the omdiagrams from ashu...
[09:27]<Chinthaka__> ok
[09:27]<Chinthaka__> I saw the mails
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[09:28]<Chinthaka__> well Dims, I want them to put in some OM docs
[09:28]<dims> hang on
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[09:30]<Chinthaka___> helllo we have some connection problems here
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[09:30]<Deepal> ADSL ?
[09:31]<Chinthaka___> yeah
[09:32]<Chinthaka___> well, can all of you please review the site
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[09:32]<Chinthaka___> and lets put the documents also there
[09:32]<Chinthaka___> so that we have a site by the time we release M1
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[09:33]<Ajith> hey you guys having difficulty with the connection ?
[09:33]<Jaliya__> may be the software
[09:33]<chathura_> not the conection i suppose
[09:36]<farhaan> inorder to have the site up and running shouldn't the
project be allocated some space on the server ?
[09:36]<Chinthaka> yes, I think
[09:37]<Chinthaka> well, Dims what do u think abt this ?
[09:37]<Jaliya__> I think we are getting the space from the CVS
[09:37]<Jaliya__> I mean under ws-site
[09:39]<Chinthaka> the site is being currently hosted in my poor
apache account :(
[09:40]<dims> http://ws.apache.org/~dims/axis2/
[09:41]<Chinthaka___> thankx dims
[09:41]<dims> Let's keep the site off-line till we release m1. we can
announce the site url with the m1 announcement.
[09:41]<farhaan> is that a permanent location for the axis2 site ?
[09:41]<dims> it's the same apache server instance service both :)
[09:42]<Chinthaka___> farhaan, it has the om images I requested
[09:42]<dims> farhaan: no these are the images
[09:42]<dims> Chinthaka: can you please make a copy before i lose it again :)
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[09:43]<Chinthaka___> already done :)
[09:44]<Chinthaka___> so dims, then lets keep the axis 2 site, where
it is now and host it when we release M1
[09:45]<Chinthaka___> so shall we try to make those docs available by
next week ?
[09:45]<Chinthaka___> and till then others can review
[09:45]<Chinthaka___> DIms, what are the docs we require ?
[09:46]<Chinthaka___> we are preparing archi guide and user's guide
which includes installation guide and samples
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[09:48]<farhaan> dims:so i guess you would allocate some space for the
site atleast before the 10th , if we are to make the release on the
12th
[09:48]<dims> Chintaka: sounds good.
[09:48]<dims> farhaan: consider it already allocated :)
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[09:49]<farhaan> dims: okay :) we are well on course then
[09:49]<farhaan> by the way 
[09:50]<farhaan> do you foresee any problems with a M1 release on the 12th, 
[09:52]<dims> am yet to review code etc...
[09:52]<dims> need a few days (maybe weekend) 
[09:52]<dims> do we know who's our competition?
[09:54]<Jaliya__> sistinet?
[09:54]<Chinthaka> ActiveSOAP
[09:54]<Jaliya__> sorry, systinet?
[09:54]<Chinthaka> and Sanjiva was referring to some more
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[10:01]<farhaan> sanjiva was very particular on getting people like
loghan (i think that was the name) who is implementing his own engine
interested in this and hence the need to produce something fast
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[10:03]<Chinthaka> seems like time is up
[10:03]<Chinthaka> can some one please post the log
[10:04]<Chinthaka> as I don't have the whole thing
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[10:06]<farhaan> I know this was not too productive, but let's discuss
the M1 stuff in detail over the mailing list, bye now
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[10:08]<chathura_> can somone post the chat(ppl at sliit havent got
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-- 
Ajith Ranabahu

Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005

[Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>]

Hi Glen,

+1 to the spirit of this message, but with a caveat. I want to be
sure that we don't get into the Axis1 rut in terms of releases;
we no longer have the luxury of waiting an year to release this
beast. By that time the need for a common WS-* stack would be
gone because everyone would've gone their own ways. (Witness the
recent JBoss stuff and at least 4 other new stack efforts.)

I know you agree with that. :-).

I too will commit to putting time to go thru the code and fix issues
and get it to be something we can all be proud of.

Sanjiva.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Glen Daniels" <gl...@thoughtcraft.com>
To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005


> Hi folks!
>
> I'm not going to +1 a release on the 11th... yet.
>
> Here's what I think needs to happen at a *minimum* before cutting a
release:
>
> 1) Some documentation needs to be written (I know you guys are working
> on this as we speak :)) and edited/checked over by at least two or three
> folks aside from the author(s).
>
> 2) All the code needs cleanup (such as by an IDE's "format code"
> feature) for consistent style/spacing/etc.
>
> 3) All spelling/capitalization errors in the code must be fixed.
>
> 4) The existing code needs some more review by the team, and in
> particular more review from folks outside of LSF (no offense, guys -
> this isn't meant to make any comment on the code quality, it's just that
> it's always good to make sure multiple viewpoints are represented) -
> Alek, Sam, Mark, etc....  I'm very concerned that, although we know this
> is "only a milestone release of a prototype" that some of the APIs and
> patterns which we haven't necessarily agreed upon as yet are going to
> start to gel and become harder to change.  I also suspect we can trim
> some of the stuff that's there for an initial release.
>
> So the net of this is that I'm not comfortable releasing things in their
> current form, but that will hopefully change in the next two weeks.
> Unfortunately, I'm going to be in Raleigh from Mon-Fri at meetings where
> I won't have network access (damn you, IBM!), but I pledge to put some
> time into this in the evenings and next week.
>
> I don't mean to be any kind of a party-pooper here - please understand
> all these comments are in the interest of producing a seriously
> high-quality piece of engineering, both from a design perspective and in
> terms of the actual artifacts we produce as a team.  Even for an early
> access "release", I think it's critical that we are all on the same page
> with respect to WHAT we're releasing, WHY we're doing so, and that we
> all feel proud that what's there (even if limited functionally) is
> well-architected, well-coded, and solid.  If we don't have all those
> things verified, I don't think it's worth doing a release at all yet.
>
> OK, whaddya think, team?  A reasonable set of requests?
>
> Thanks,
> --Glen
>
>
> Farhaan Mohideen wrote:
> > The release should be on the 11th as the 12th is a Saturday. My mistake
> >
> > Regards
> > Farhaan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Deepal Jayasinghe [mailto:deepal@opensource.lk]
> > Sent: 29 January 2005 00:23
> > To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
> >
> > +1 , for M1 at Feb 12th
> >
> >
> > Deepal
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Srinath Perera" <he...@gmail.com>
> > To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 5:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
> >
> >
> >
> >>+1, for M1 at the Feb 12
> >>
> >>
> >>On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:15:20 +0600, Sanjiva Weerawarana
> >><sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> >>
> >>>+1 for going ahead with an M1 on Feb. 12th.
> >>>
> >>>Sanjiva.
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Farhaan Mohideen" <fa...@opensource.lk>
> >>>To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
> >>>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:25 PM
> >>>
> >>>Subject: RE: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Hi All
> >>>>
> >>>>Before Sri Lanka was affected by the tsunami we were well on course
> >
> > for a
> >
> >>>>milestone release in the first week of January with only the
> >
> > documentation
> >
> >>>>outstanding. I think during that period Alek, Dims and Glen said that
> >
> > they
> >
> >>>>would have a look at the code out under prototype 1.
> >>>>
> >>>>Now the team is back on track with Axis after working on the various
> >>>
> >>>Sahana
> >>>
> >>>>applications. We would like to proceed with the milestone release and
> >>>
> >>>would
> >>>
> >>>>appreciate some feedback from everyone whose been contributing to the
> >>>>project. How does the 12th of Feb sound ? Since our first meeting in
> >>>
> >>>August,
> >>>
> >>>>counting the days it would show that we have spent almost 5 months to
> >
> > get
> >
> >>>>this far. Without holding back further I suggest we push forward and
> >
> > get
> >
> >>>>something out.
> >>>>
> >>>>Srinath you were voted in as the Release Manager, could you send a
> >
> > draft
> >
> >>>of
> >>>
> >>>>the release plan so that all can comment.
> >>>>
> >>>>Farhaan
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: Ajith Ranabahu [mailto:ajith.ranabahu@gmail.com]
> >>>>Sent: 27 January 2005 10:48
> >>>>To: Axis developer list
> >>>>Subject: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
> >>>>
> >>>>The topic of todays chat was the upcoming M1. There were some concerns
> >>>>about the site as well.
> >>>>
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> >>>>[09:02]  *** Deepal joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[09:03]<Ajith> Hi all
> >>>>[09:04]<Jaliya> Hi All
> >>>>[09:04]<Deepal> Hi all
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> >>>>[09:05]<farhaan> Hi All
> >>>>[09:07]  *** farhaan sets topic for #apache-axis : Apache Axis -
> >>>>Milestone Release
> >>>>[09:08]<Chinthaka_> hi all
> >>>>[09:09]<Ajith> Hey where are all the others
> >>>>[09:09]<Ajith> ?
> >>>>[09:10]<farhaan> is this too early/late to start ?
> >>>>[09:10]<Chinthaka_> tsunami for all others ;)
> >>>>[09:10]<Jaliya> It is already 9.10 am here
> >>>>[09:12]  *** lilantha joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[09:14]<Chinthaka_> well shall we start talking about M1 ?
> >>>>[09:14]<Deepal> good idea
> >>>>[09:15]<Chinthaka_> anyway, any plans for the date of release ?
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> >>>>[09:16]<Chinthaka_> I think its some where around 12 or 15
> >>>>[09:16]<Chinthaka_> next month
> >>>>[09:17]<farhaan> yes we should be okay with 12th Feb
> >>>>[09:17]<farhaan> Let's discuss what is outstanding for the release
> >>>>[09:17]<Ajith> BTW guys what has happend to glen and all ?
> >>>>[09:18]<Deepal> We have completed coding stuff for M1
> >>>>[09:18]<farhaan> as far as i know before the tsunami we were in very
> >>>>good shape where the functionality was concerned and it was the
> >>>>documentation that was missing
> >>>>[09:18]<Deepal> and only documentation has to be done
> >>>>[09:18]<Jaliya> and examples
> >>>>[09:19]<Jaliya> I mean samples + docs
> >>>>[09:19]<Chinthaka_> well I myself and Chathura started with samples
> >>>>[09:19]<Deepal> yep
> >>>>[09:19]<farhaan> so can we first get concurrence from all on the
> >>>>features for M1 as a reminder atleast
> >>>>[09:19]<Chinthaka_> and the user's guide
> >>>>[09:19]<Deepal> and I stared archi guide
> >>>>[09:22]<Ajith> myswlf and srinath did some perf tests
> >>>>[09:22]<Ajith> and fixed some bugs as well
> >>>>[09:22]<Chinthaka_> great
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> >
> > by
> >
> >>>>peer)
> >>>>[09:24]  *** Chinthaka__ joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[09:24]<Chinthaka__> hello
> >>>>[09:24]  *** Jaliya_ joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[09:24]<Chinthaka__> helllooooooooooooo
> >>>>[09:25]<Ajith> yeah
> >>>>[09:25]<Chinthaka__> oki, i was disconnected
> >>>>[09:25]<dims> Ajith: do we have some DOM wrapper stuff already?
> >>>>[09:25]<Chinthaka__> nop
> >>>>[09:25]<Ajith> nope
> >>>>[09:25]<Chinthaka__> I don't think its required now
> >>>>[09:25]<Ajith> not yet
> >>>>[09:26]<dims> ok. just curious.
> >>>>[09:26]<Chinthaka__> I started that sometime back
> >>>>[09:26]<Chinthaka__> but stopped for the time being
> >>>>[09:26]<Ajith> dims : god thing that you are here
> >>>>[09:26]<Ajith> :)
> >>>>[09:26]<dims> may not be here for long :(
> >>>>[09:27]<dims> i got the omdiagrams from ashu...
> >>>>[09:27]<Chinthaka__> ok
> >>>>[09:27]<Chinthaka__> I saw the mails
> >>>>[09:27]  *** chathurah joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[09:28]<Chinthaka__> well Dims, I want them to put in some OM docs
> >>>>[09:28]<dims> hang on
> >>>>[09:28]  *** Deepal joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[09:29]  *** Chinthaka___ joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[09:29]  *** Chinthaka joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[09:30]<Chinthaka___> helllo we have some connection problems here
> >>>>[09:30]  *** Jaliya__ joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[09:30]<Deepal> ADSL ?
> >>>>[09:31]<Chinthaka___> yeah
> >>>>[09:32]<Chinthaka___> well, can all of you please review the site
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> >
> > timed
> >
> >>>out)
> >>>
> >>>>[09:32]  *** Jaliya quit FreeNode : Operation timed out
> >>>>[09:32]<Chinthaka___> and lets put the documents also there
> >>>>[09:32]<Chinthaka___> so that we have a site by the time we release M1
> >>>>[09:33]  *** chathura_ joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[09:33]<Ajith> hey you guys having difficulty with the connection ?
> >>>>[09:33]<Jaliya__> may be the software
> >>>>[09:33]<chathura_> not the conection i suppose
> >>>>[09:36]<farhaan> inorder to have the site up and running shouldn't the
> >>>>project be allocated some space on the server ?
> >>>>[09:36]<Chinthaka> yes, I think
> >>>>[09:37]<Chinthaka> well, Dims what do u think abt this ?
> >>>>[09:37]<Jaliya__> I think we are getting the space from the CVS
> >>>>[09:37]<Jaliya__> I mean under ws-site
> >>>>[09:39]<Chinthaka> the site is being currently hosted in my poor
> >>>>apache account :(
> >>>>[09:40]<dims> http://ws.apache.org/~dims/axis2/
> >>>>[09:41]<Chinthaka___> thankx dims
> >>>>[09:41]<dims> Let's keep the site off-line till we release m1. we can
> >>>>announce the site url with the m1 announcement.
> >>>>[09:41]<farhaan> is that a permanent location for the axis2 site ?
> >>>>[09:41]<dims> it's the same apache server instance service both :)
> >>>>[09:42]<Chinthaka___> farhaan, it has the om images I requested
> >>>>[09:42]<dims> farhaan: no these are the images
> >>>>[09:42]<dims> Chinthaka: can you please make a copy before i lose it
> >
> > again
> >
> >>>>:)
> >>>>[09:42]  *** chathura quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
> >
> > host)
> >
> >>>>[09:43]<Chinthaka___> already done :)
> >>>>[09:44]<Chinthaka___> so dims, then lets keep the axis 2 site, where
> >>>>it is now and host it when we release M1
> >>>>[09:45]<Chinthaka___> so shall we try to make those docs available by
> >>>>next week ?
> >>>>[09:45]<Chinthaka___> and till then others can review
> >>>>[09:45]<Chinthaka___> DIms, what are the docs we require ?
> >>>>[09:46]<Chinthaka___> we are preparing archi guide and user's guide
> >>>>which includes installation guide and samples
> >>>>[09:47]  *** Chinthaka__ quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
> >>>
> >>>host)
> >>>
> >>>>[09:48]  *** Jaliya_ quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
> >
> > host)
> >
> >>>>[09:48]<farhaan> dims:so i guess you would allocate some space for the
> >>>>site atleast before the 10th , if we are to make the release on the
> >>>>12th
> >>>>[09:48]<dims> Chintaka: sounds good.
> >>>>[09:48]<dims> farhaan: consider it already allocated :)
> >>>>[09:48]  *** chathurah quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
> >
> > host)
> >
> >>>>[09:49]<farhaan> dims: okay :) we are well on course then
> >>>>[09:49]<farhaan> by the way
> >>>>[09:50]<farhaan> do you foresee any problems with a M1 release on the
> >>>
> >>>12th,
> >>>
> >>>>[09:52]<dims> am yet to review code etc...
> >>>>[09:52]<dims> need a few days (maybe weekend)
> >>>>[09:52]<dims> do we know who's our competition?
> >>>>[09:54]<Jaliya__> sistinet?
> >>>>[09:54]<Chinthaka> ActiveSOAP
> >>>>[09:54]<Jaliya__> sorry, systinet?
> >>>>[09:54]<Chinthaka> and Sanjiva was referring to some more
> >>>>[09:55]  *** Deepal quit FreeNode : "Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster,
> >>>>Easier. http://miranda-im.org"
> >>>>[10:01]<farhaan> sanjiva was very particular on getting people like
> >>>>loghan (i think that was the name) who is implementing his own engine
> >>>>interested in this and hence the need to produce something fast
> >>>>[10:02]  *** Chinthaka___ quit FreeNode : "Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla
> >>>>rv:1.7.5/20041107]"
> >>>>[10:03]<Chinthaka> seems like time is up
> >>>>[10:03]<Chinthaka> can some one please post the log
> >>>>[10:04]<Chinthaka> as I don't have the whole thing
> >>>>[10:04]<Jaliya__> Bye All
> >>>>[10:04]  *** Jaliya__ quit FreeNode : "Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla
> >>>>rv:1.7.5/20041107]"
> >>>>[10:06]<farhaan> I know this was not too productive, but let's discuss
> >>>>the M1 stuff in detail over the mailing list, bye now
> >>>>[10:06]  *** farhaan left #apache-axis :
> >>>>[10:08]<chathura_> can somone post the chat(ppl at sliit havent got
> >>>>the complete chat)
> >>>>[10:10]  *** lilantha left #apache-axis :
> >>>>[10:11]  *** chathura_ left #apache-axis :
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Ajith Ranabahu
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005

[Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com>]

+1 from me (review by this weekend)


On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 07:56:19 -0500, Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com> wrote:
> Hi Farhaan!
> 
> I'll start to read the code in earnest later this week / this weekend, and I
> think targeting the chat next week for folks to be done with the review
> would probably be a great idea so that we can use the IRC chat to discuss
> things in realtime.  I agree it hopefully won't take that long, and
> hopefully everyone can commit to that schedule - Dims, Alek, Sanjiva, etc -
> you OK with that plan?
> 
> --Glen
> 
> P.S.  Very frustrating to be offline from 8AM until evening!  Like missing
> an arm. :)
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Farhaan Mohideen" <fa...@opensource.lk>
> To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
> Cc: "'Srinath Perera'" <he...@gmail.com>; "Glen Daniels"
> <gl...@thoughtcraft.com>
> 
> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 2:13 AM
> Subject: RE: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
> 
> > Hi
> >
> > I am all for delivering high-quality design/code. I think we were at this
> > same position at the end of December. Glen, Dims, Sam, Alek, etc we want
> > you
> > to check our code and design (the design was of course discussed over the
> > mailing list + during IRC chats). Please can you give me a date by which
> > you
> > will be able to complete this review so that we can then set a date for
> > the
> > release based on the review results. Hopefully this shouldn't take longer
> > than 2 weeks right? In the meantime we will try to get the documentation
> > also out for your review.
> >
> > Regards
> > Farhaan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Srinath Perera [mailto:hemapani@gmail.com]
> > Sent: 31 January 2005 11:20
> > To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
> >
> > Hi Glen;
> > Nice that all are now back on Axis2 :)
> >
> > yes I too think that requests are resonable, I belive we can get them
> > done in two weeks
> >
> > We are working on the documentation/ samples and peformance
> > evaluation. We will try bit of profiling to make sure things  are
> > inorder.
> >
> > Let us all start looking closly at the code for improvements :). Can
> > we have a code review at the chat? (may be we can have more than one
> > IRC sessions per week for these two weeks). Can you make to the chat
> > this week?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Srinath
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 23:01:56 -0500, Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com>
> > wrote:
> >> Hi folks!
> >>
> >> I'm not going to +1 a release on the 11th... yet.
> >>
> >> Here's what I think needs to happen at a *minimum* before cutting a
> > release:
> >>
> >> 1) Some documentation needs to be written (I know you guys are working
> >> on this as we speak :)) and edited/checked over by at least two or three
> >> folks aside from the author(s).
> >>
> >> 2) All the code needs cleanup (such as by an IDE's "format code"
> >> feature) for consistent style/spacing/etc.
> >>
> >> 3) All spelling/capitalization errors in the code must be fixed.
> >>
> >> 4) The existing code needs some more review by the team, and in
> >> particular more review from folks outside of LSF (no offense, guys -
> >> this isn't meant to make any comment on the code quality, it's just that
> >> it's always good to make sure multiple viewpoints are represented) -
> >> Alek, Sam, Mark, etc....  I'm very concerned that, although we know this
> >> is "only a milestone release of a prototype" that some of the APIs and
> >> patterns which we haven't necessarily agreed upon as yet are going to
> >> start to gel and become harder to change.  I also suspect we can trim
> >> some of the stuff that's there for an initial release.
> >>
> >> So the net of this is that I'm not comfortable releasing things in their
> >> current form, but that will hopefully change in the next two weeks.
> >> Unfortunately, I'm going to be in Raleigh from Mon-Fri at meetings where
> >> I won't have network access (damn you, IBM!), but I pledge to put some
> >> time into this in the evenings and next week.
> >>
> >> I don't mean to be any kind of a party-pooper here - please understand
> >> all these comments are in the interest of producing a seriously
> >> high-quality piece of engineering, both from a design perspective and in
> >> terms of the actual artifacts we produce as a team.  Even for an early
> >> access "release", I think it's critical that we are all on the same page
> >> with respect to WHAT we're releasing, WHY we're doing so, and that we
> >> all feel proud that what's there (even if limited functionally) is
> >> well-architected, well-coded, and solid.  If we don't have all those
> >> things verified, I don't think it's worth doing a release at all yet.
> >>
> >> OK, whaddya think, team?  A reasonable set of requests?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> --Glen
> >>
> >>
> >> Farhaan Mohideen wrote:
> >> > The release should be on the 11th as the 12th is a Saturday. My mistake
> >> >
> >> > Regards
> >> > Farhaan
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Deepal Jayasinghe [mailto:deepal@opensource.lk]
> >> > Sent: 29 January 2005 00:23
> >> > To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
> >> > Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
> >> >
> >> > +1 , for M1 at Feb 12th
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Deepal
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Srinath Perera" <he...@gmail.com>
> >> > To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
> >> > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 5:59 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>+1, for M1 at the Feb 12
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:15:20 +0600, Sanjiva Weerawarana
> >> >><sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>+1 for going ahead with an M1 on Feb. 12th.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Sanjiva.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >> >>>From: "Farhaan Mohideen" <fa...@opensource.lk>
> >> >>>To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
> >> >>>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:25 PM
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Subject: RE: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>Hi All
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Before Sri Lanka was affected by the tsunami we were well on course
> >> >
> >> > for a
> >> >
> >> >>>>milestone release in the first week of January with only the
> >> >
> >> > documentation
> >> >
> >> >>>>outstanding. I think during that period Alek, Dims and Glen said that
> >> >
> >> > they
> >> >
> >> >>>>would have a look at the code out under prototype 1.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Now the team is back on track with Axis after working on the various
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Sahana
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>applications. We would like to proceed with the milestone release and
> >> >>>
> >> >>>would
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>appreciate some feedback from everyone whose been contributing to the
> >> >>>>project. How does the 12th of Feb sound ? Since our first meeting in
> >> >>>
> >> >>>August,
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>counting the days it would show that we have spent almost 5 months to
> >> >
> >> > get
> >> >
> >> >>>>this far. Without holding back further I suggest we push forward and
> >> >
> >> > get
> >> >
> >> >>>>something out.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Srinath you were voted in as the Release Manager, could you send a
> >> >
> >> > draft
> >> >
> >> >>>of
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>the release plan so that all can comment.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Farhaan
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >> >>>>From: Ajith Ranabahu [mailto:ajith.ranabahu@gmail.com]
> >> >>>>Sent: 27 January 2005 10:48
> >> >>>>To: Axis developer list
> >> >>>>Subject: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>The topic of todays chat was the upcoming M1. There were some
> >> >>>>concerns
> >> >>>>about the site as well.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>[08:58]  ***  Apache Axis - SOAP WSDL WSDD
> >> >>>>[08:59]  *** Jaliya joined #apache-axis
> >> >>>>[08:59]  *** Chinthaka_ joined #apache-axis
> >> >>>>[08:59]  *** Chinthaka left #apache-axis :
> >> >>>>[09:02]  *** Deepal joined #apache-axis
> >> >>>>[09:03]<Ajith> Hi all
> >> >>>>[09:04]<Jaliya> Hi All
> >> >>>>[09:04]<Deepal> Hi all
> >> >>>>[09:05]  *** farhaan joined #apache-axis
> >> >>>>[09:05]<farhaan> Hi All
> >> >>>>[09:07]  *** farhaan sets topic for #apache-axis : Apache Axis -
> >> >>>>Milestone Release
> >> >>>>[09:08]<Chinthaka_> hi all
> >> >>>>[09:09]<Ajith> Hey where are all the others
> >> >>>>[09:09]<Ajith> ?
> >> >>>>[09:10]<farhaan> is this too early/late to start ?
> >> >>>>[09:10]<Chinthaka_> tsunami for all others ;)
> >> >>>>[09:10]<Jaliya> It is already 9.10 am here
> >> >>>>[09:12]  *** lilantha joined #apache-axis
> >> >>>>[09:14]<Chinthaka_> well shall we start talking about M1 ?
> >> >>>>[09:14]<Deepal> good idea
> >> >>>>[09:15]<Chinthaka_> anyway, any plans for the date of release ?
> >> >>>>[09:16]  *** chathura joined #apache-axis
> >> >>>>[09:16]<Chinthaka_> I think its some where around 12 or 15
> >> >>>>[09:16]<Chinthaka_> next month
> >> >>>>[09:17]<farhaan> yes we should be okay with 12th Feb
> >> >>>>[09:17]<farhaan> Let's discuss what is outstanding for the release
> >> >>>>[09:17]<Ajith> BTW guys what has happend to glen and all ?
> >> >>>>[09:18]<Deepal> We have completed coding stuff for M1
> >> >>>>[09:18]<farhaan> as far as i know before the tsunami we were in very
> >> >>>>good shape where the functionality was concerned and it was the
> >> >>>>documentation that was missing
> >> >>>>[09:18]<Deepal> and only documentation has to be done
> >> >>>>[09:18]<Jaliya> and examples
> >> >>>>[09:19]<Jaliya> I mean samples + docs
> >> >>>>[09:19]<Chinthaka_> well I myself and Chathura started with samples
> >> >>>>[09:19]<Deepal> yep
> >> >>>>[09:19]<farhaan> so can we first get concurrence from all on the
> >> >>>>features for M1 as a reminder atleast
> >> >>>>[09:19]<Chinthaka_> and the user's guide
> >> >>>>[09:19]<Deepal> and I stared archi guide
> >> >>>>[09:22]<Ajith> myswlf and srinath did some perf tests
> >> >>>>[09:22]<Ajith> and fixed some bugs as well
> >> >>>>[09:22]<Chinthaka_> great
> >> >>>>[09:23]  *** Deepal quit FreeNode : Read error: 54 (Connection reset
> >> >
> >> > by
> >> >
> >> >>>>peer)
> >> >>>>[09:24]  *** Chinthaka__ joined #apache-axis
> >> >>>>[09:24]<Chinthaka__> hello
> >> >>>>[09:24]  *** Jaliya_ joined #apache-axis
> >> >>>>[09:24]<Chinthaka__> helllooooooooooooo
> >> >>>>[09:25]<Ajith> yeah
> >> >>>>[09:25]<Chinthaka__> oki, i was disconnected
> >> >>>>[09:25]<dims> Ajith: do we have some DOM wrapper stuff already?
> >> >>>>[09:25]<Chinthaka__> nop
> >> >>>>[09:25]<Ajith> nope
> >> >>>>[09:25]<Chinthaka__> I don't think its required now
> >> >>>>[09:25]<Ajith> not yet
> >> >>>>[09:26]<dims> ok. just curious.
> >> >>>>[09:26]<Chinthaka__> I started that sometime back
> >> >>>>[09:26]<Chinthaka__> but stopped for the time being
> >> >>>>[09:26]<Ajith> dims : god thing that you are here
> >> >>>>[09:26]<Ajith> :)
> >> >>>>[09:26]<dims> may not be here for long :(
> >> >>>>[09:27]<dims> i got the omdiagrams from ashu...
> >> >>>>[09:27]<Chinthaka__> ok
> >> >>>>[09:27]<Chinthaka__> I saw the mails
> >> >>>>[09:27]  *** chathurah joined #apache-axis
> >> >>>>[09:28]<Chinthaka__> well Dims, I want them to put in some OM docs
> >> >>>>[09:28]<dims> hang on
> >> >>>>[09:28]  *** Deepal joined #apache-axis
> >> >>>>[09:29]  *** Chinthaka___ joined #apache-axis
> >> >>>>[09:29]  *** Chinthaka joined #apache-axis
> >> >>>>[09:30]<Chinthaka___> helllo we have some connection problems here
> >> >>>>[09:30]  *** Jaliya__ joined #apache-axis
> >> >>>>[09:30]<Deepal> ADSL ?
> >> >>>>[09:31]<Chinthaka___> yeah
> >> >>>>[09:32]<Chinthaka___> well, can all of you please review the site
> >> >>>>[09:32]  *** Chinthaka_ quit FreeNode : Read error: 60 (Operation
> >> >
> >> > timed
> >> >
> >> >>>out)
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>[09:32]  *** Jaliya quit FreeNode : Operation timed out
> >> >>>>[09:32]<Chinthaka___> and lets put the documents also there
> >> >>>>[09:32]<Chinthaka___> so that we have a site by the time we release
> >> >>>>M1
> >> >>>>[09:33]  *** chathura_ joined #apache-axis
> >> >>>>[09:33]<Ajith> hey you guys having difficulty with the connection ?
> >> >>>>[09:33]<Jaliya__> may be the software
> >> >>>>[09:33]<chathura_> not the conection i suppose
> >> >>>>[09:36]<farhaan> inorder to have the site up and running shouldn't
> >> >>>>the
> >> >>>>project be allocated some space on the server ?
> >> >>>>[09:36]<Chinthaka> yes, I think
> >> >>>>[09:37]<Chinthaka> well, Dims what do u think abt this ?
> >> >>>>[09:37]<Jaliya__> I think we are getting the space from the CVS
> >> >>>>[09:37]<Jaliya__> I mean under ws-site
> >> >>>>[09:39]<Chinthaka> the site is being currently hosted in my poor
> >> >>>>apache account :(
> >> >>>>[09:40]<dims> http://ws.apache.org/~dims/axis2/
> >> >>>>[09:41]<Chinthaka___> thankx dims
> >> >>>>[09:41]<dims> Let's keep the site off-line till we release m1. we can
> >> >>>>announce the site url with the m1 announcement.
> >> >>>>[09:41]<farhaan> is that a permanent location for the axis2 site ?
> >> >>>>[09:41]<dims> it's the same apache server instance service both :)
> >> >>>>[09:42]<Chinthaka___> farhaan, it has the om images I requested
> >> >>>>[09:42]<dims> farhaan: no these are the images
> >> >>>>[09:42]<dims> Chinthaka: can you please make a copy before i lose it
> >> >
> >> > again
> >> >
> >> >>>>:)
> >> >>>>[09:42]  *** chathura quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
> >> >
> >> > host)
> >> >
> >> >>>>[09:43]<Chinthaka___> already done :)
> >> >>>>[09:44]<Chinthaka___> so dims, then lets keep the axis 2 site, where
> >> >>>>it is now and host it when we release M1
> >> >>>>[09:45]<Chinthaka___> so shall we try to make those docs available by
> >> >>>>next week ?
> >> >>>>[09:45]<Chinthaka___> and till then others can review
> >> >>>>[09:45]<Chinthaka___> DIms, what are the docs we require ?
> >> >>>>[09:46]<Chinthaka___> we are preparing archi guide and user's guide
> >> >>>>which includes installation guide and samples
> >> >>>>[09:47]  *** Chinthaka__ quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
> >> >>>
> >> >>>host)
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>[09:48]  *** Jaliya_ quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
> >> >
> >> > host)
> >> >
> >> >>>>[09:48]<farhaan> dims:so i guess you would allocate some space for
> >> >>>>the
> >> >>>>site atleast before the 10th , if we are to make the release on the
> >> >>>>12th
> >> >>>>[09:48]<dims> Chintaka: sounds good.
> >> >>>>[09:48]<dims> farhaan: consider it already allocated :)
> >> >>>>[09:48]  *** chathurah quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
> >> >
> >> > host)
> >> >
> >> >>>>[09:49]<farhaan> dims: okay :) we are well on course then
> >> >>>>[09:49]<farhaan> by the way
> >> >>>>[09:50]<farhaan> do you foresee any problems with a M1 release on the
> >> >>>
> >> >>>12th,
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>[09:52]<dims> am yet to review code etc...
> >> >>>>[09:52]<dims> need a few days (maybe weekend)
> >> >>>>[09:52]<dims> do we know who's our competition?
> >> >>>>[09:54]<Jaliya__> sistinet?
> >> >>>>[09:54]<Chinthaka> ActiveSOAP
> >> >>>>[09:54]<Jaliya__> sorry, systinet?
> >> >>>>[09:54]<Chinthaka> and Sanjiva was referring to some more
> >> >>>>[09:55]  *** Deepal quit FreeNode : "Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster,
> >> >>>>Easier. http://miranda-im.org"
> >> >>>>[10:01]<farhaan> sanjiva was very particular on getting people like
> >> >>>>loghan (i think that was the name) who is implementing his own engine
> >> >>>>interested in this and hence the need to produce something fast
> >> >>>>[10:02]  *** Chinthaka___ quit FreeNode : "Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla
> >> >>>>rv:1.7.5/20041107]"
> >> >>>>[10:03]<Chinthaka> seems like time is up
> >> >>>>[10:03]<Chinthaka> can some one please post the log
> >> >>>>[10:04]<Chinthaka> as I don't have the whole thing
> >> >>>>[10:04]<Jaliya__> Bye All
> >> >>>>[10:04]  *** Jaliya__ quit FreeNode : "Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla
> >> >>>>rv:1.7.5/20041107]"
> >> >>>>[10:06]<farhaan> I know this was not too productive, but let's
> >> >>>>discuss
> >> >>>>the M1 stuff in detail over the mailing list, bye now
> >> >>>>[10:06]  *** farhaan left #apache-axis :
> >> >>>>[10:08]<chathura_> can somone post the chat(ppl at sliit havent got
> >> >>>>the complete chat)
> >> >>>>[10:10]  *** lilantha left #apache-axis :
> >> >>>>[10:11]  *** chathura_ left #apache-axis :
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>--
> >> >>>>Ajith Ranabahu
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 


-- 
Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/

RE: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005

[Farhaan Mohideen <fa...@opensource.lk>]

Hi Glen

Thank you ...we look forward to it

Farhaan
-----Original Message-----
From: Glen Daniels [mailto:glen@thoughtcraft.com] 
Sent: 01 February 2005 18:56
To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005

Hi Farhaan!

I'll start to read the code in earnest later this week / this weekend, and I

think targeting the chat next week for folks to be done with the review 
would probably be a great idea so that we can use the IRC chat to discuss 
things in realtime.  I agree it hopefully won't take that long, and 
hopefully everyone can commit to that schedule - Dims, Alek, Sanjiva, etc - 
you OK with that plan?

--Glen

P.S.  Very frustrating to be offline from 8AM until evening!  Like missing 
an arm. :)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Farhaan Mohideen" <fa...@opensource.lk>
To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
Cc: "'Srinath Perera'" <he...@gmail.com>; "Glen Daniels" 
<gl...@thoughtcraft.com>
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 2:13 AM
Subject: RE: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005


> Hi
>
> I am all for delivering high-quality design/code. I think we were at this
> same position at the end of December. Glen, Dims, Sam, Alek, etc we want 
> you
> to check our code and design (the design was of course discussed over the
> mailing list + during IRC chats). Please can you give me a date by which 
> you
> will be able to complete this review so that we can then set a date for 
> the
> release based on the review results. Hopefully this shouldn't take longer
> than 2 weeks right? In the meantime we will try to get the documentation
> also out for your review.
>
> Regards
> Farhaan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Srinath Perera [mailto:hemapani@gmail.com]
> Sent: 31 January 2005 11:20
> To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
>
> Hi Glen;
> Nice that all are now back on Axis2 :)
>
> yes I too think that requests are resonable, I belive we can get them
> done in two weeks
>
> We are working on the documentation/ samples and peformance
> evaluation. We will try bit of profiling to make sure things  are
> inorder.
>
> Let us all start looking closly at the code for improvements :). Can
> we have a code review at the chat? (may be we can have more than one
> IRC sessions per week for these two weeks). Can you make to the chat
> this week?
>
> Thanks
> Srinath
>
>
>
> On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 23:01:56 -0500, Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com>
> wrote:
>> Hi folks!
>>
>> I'm not going to +1 a release on the 11th... yet.
>>
>> Here's what I think needs to happen at a *minimum* before cutting a
> release:
>>
>> 1) Some documentation needs to be written (I know you guys are working
>> on this as we speak :)) and edited/checked over by at least two or three
>> folks aside from the author(s).
>>
>> 2) All the code needs cleanup (such as by an IDE's "format code"
>> feature) for consistent style/spacing/etc.
>>
>> 3) All spelling/capitalization errors in the code must be fixed.
>>
>> 4) The existing code needs some more review by the team, and in
>> particular more review from folks outside of LSF (no offense, guys -
>> this isn't meant to make any comment on the code quality, it's just that
>> it's always good to make sure multiple viewpoints are represented) -
>> Alek, Sam, Mark, etc....  I'm very concerned that, although we know this
>> is "only a milestone release of a prototype" that some of the APIs and
>> patterns which we haven't necessarily agreed upon as yet are going to
>> start to gel and become harder to change.  I also suspect we can trim
>> some of the stuff that's there for an initial release.
>>
>> So the net of this is that I'm not comfortable releasing things in their
>> current form, but that will hopefully change in the next two weeks.
>> Unfortunately, I'm going to be in Raleigh from Mon-Fri at meetings where
>> I won't have network access (damn you, IBM!), but I pledge to put some
>> time into this in the evenings and next week.
>>
>> I don't mean to be any kind of a party-pooper here - please understand
>> all these comments are in the interest of producing a seriously
>> high-quality piece of engineering, both from a design perspective and in
>> terms of the actual artifacts we produce as a team.  Even for an early
>> access "release", I think it's critical that we are all on the same page
>> with respect to WHAT we're releasing, WHY we're doing so, and that we
>> all feel proud that what's there (even if limited functionally) is
>> well-architected, well-coded, and solid.  If we don't have all those
>> things verified, I don't think it's worth doing a release at all yet.
>>
>> OK, whaddya think, team?  A reasonable set of requests?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --Glen
>>
>>
>> Farhaan Mohideen wrote:
>> > The release should be on the 11th as the 12th is a Saturday. My mistake
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Farhaan
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Deepal Jayasinghe [mailto:deepal@opensource.lk]
>> > Sent: 29 January 2005 00:23
>> > To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
>> > Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
>> >
>> > +1 , for M1 at Feb 12th
>> >
>> >
>> > Deepal
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Srinath Perera" <he...@gmail.com>
>> > To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
>> > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 5:59 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>+1, for M1 at the Feb 12
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:15:20 +0600, Sanjiva Weerawarana
>> >><sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>+1 for going ahead with an M1 on Feb. 12th.
>> >>>
>> >>>Sanjiva.
>> >>>
>> >>>----- Original Message -----
>> >>>From: "Farhaan Mohideen" <fa...@opensource.lk>
>> >>>To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
>> >>>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:25 PM
>> >>>
>> >>>Subject: RE: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>Hi All
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Before Sri Lanka was affected by the tsunami we were well on course
>> >
>> > for a
>> >
>> >>>>milestone release in the first week of January with only the
>> >
>> > documentation
>> >
>> >>>>outstanding. I think during that period Alek, Dims and Glen said that
>> >
>> > they
>> >
>> >>>>would have a look at the code out under prototype 1.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Now the team is back on track with Axis after working on the various
>> >>>
>> >>>Sahana
>> >>>
>> >>>>applications. We would like to proceed with the milestone release and
>> >>>
>> >>>would
>> >>>
>> >>>>appreciate some feedback from everyone whose been contributing to the
>> >>>>project. How does the 12th of Feb sound ? Since our first meeting in
>> >>>
>> >>>August,
>> >>>
>> >>>>counting the days it would show that we have spent almost 5 months to
>> >
>> > get
>> >
>> >>>>this far. Without holding back further I suggest we push forward and
>> >
>> > get
>> >
>> >>>>something out.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Srinath you were voted in as the Release Manager, could you send a
>> >
>> > draft
>> >
>> >>>of
>> >>>
>> >>>>the release plan so that all can comment.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Farhaan
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>-----Original Message-----
>> >>>>From: Ajith Ranabahu [mailto:ajith.ranabahu@gmail.com]
>> >>>>Sent: 27 January 2005 10:48
>> >>>>To: Axis developer list
>> >>>>Subject: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
>> >>>>
>> >>>>The topic of todays chat was the upcoming M1. There were some 
>> >>>>concerns
>> >>>>about the site as well.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>[08:58]  ***  Apache Axis - SOAP WSDL WSDD
>> >>>>[08:59]  *** Jaliya joined #apache-axis
>> >>>>[08:59]  *** Chinthaka_ joined #apache-axis
>> >>>>[08:59]  *** Chinthaka left #apache-axis :
>> >>>>[09:02]  *** Deepal joined #apache-axis
>> >>>>[09:03]<Ajith> Hi all
>> >>>>[09:04]<Jaliya> Hi All
>> >>>>[09:04]<Deepal> Hi all
>> >>>>[09:05]  *** farhaan joined #apache-axis
>> >>>>[09:05]<farhaan> Hi All
>> >>>>[09:07]  *** farhaan sets topic for #apache-axis : Apache Axis -
>> >>>>Milestone Release
>> >>>>[09:08]<Chinthaka_> hi all
>> >>>>[09:09]<Ajith> Hey where are all the others
>> >>>>[09:09]<Ajith> ?
>> >>>>[09:10]<farhaan> is this too early/late to start ?
>> >>>>[09:10]<Chinthaka_> tsunami for all others ;)
>> >>>>[09:10]<Jaliya> It is already 9.10 am here
>> >>>>[09:12]  *** lilantha joined #apache-axis
>> >>>>[09:14]<Chinthaka_> well shall we start talking about M1 ?
>> >>>>[09:14]<Deepal> good idea
>> >>>>[09:15]<Chinthaka_> anyway, any plans for the date of release ?
>> >>>>[09:16]  *** chathura joined #apache-axis
>> >>>>[09:16]<Chinthaka_> I think its some where around 12 or 15
>> >>>>[09:16]<Chinthaka_> next month
>> >>>>[09:17]<farhaan> yes we should be okay with 12th Feb
>> >>>>[09:17]<farhaan> Let's discuss what is outstanding for the release
>> >>>>[09:17]<Ajith> BTW guys what has happend to glen and all ?
>> >>>>[09:18]<Deepal> We have completed coding stuff for M1
>> >>>>[09:18]<farhaan> as far as i know before the tsunami we were in very
>> >>>>good shape where the functionality was concerned and it was the
>> >>>>documentation that was missing
>> >>>>[09:18]<Deepal> and only documentation has to be done
>> >>>>[09:18]<Jaliya> and examples
>> >>>>[09:19]<Jaliya> I mean samples + docs
>> >>>>[09:19]<Chinthaka_> well I myself and Chathura started with samples
>> >>>>[09:19]<Deepal> yep
>> >>>>[09:19]<farhaan> so can we first get concurrence from all on the
>> >>>>features for M1 as a reminder atleast
>> >>>>[09:19]<Chinthaka_> and the user's guide
>> >>>>[09:19]<Deepal> and I stared archi guide
>> >>>>[09:22]<Ajith> myswlf and srinath did some perf tests
>> >>>>[09:22]<Ajith> and fixed some bugs as well
>> >>>>[09:22]<Chinthaka_> great
>> >>>>[09:23]  *** Deepal quit FreeNode : Read error: 54 (Connection reset
>> >
>> > by
>> >
>> >>>>peer)
>> >>>>[09:24]  *** Chinthaka__ joined #apache-axis
>> >>>>[09:24]<Chinthaka__> hello
>> >>>>[09:24]  *** Jaliya_ joined #apache-axis
>> >>>>[09:24]<Chinthaka__> helllooooooooooooo
>> >>>>[09:25]<Ajith> yeah
>> >>>>[09:25]<Chinthaka__> oki, i was disconnected
>> >>>>[09:25]<dims> Ajith: do we have some DOM wrapper stuff already?
>> >>>>[09:25]<Chinthaka__> nop
>> >>>>[09:25]<Ajith> nope
>> >>>>[09:25]<Chinthaka__> I don't think its required now
>> >>>>[09:25]<Ajith> not yet
>> >>>>[09:26]<dims> ok. just curious.
>> >>>>[09:26]<Chinthaka__> I started that sometime back
>> >>>>[09:26]<Chinthaka__> but stopped for the time being
>> >>>>[09:26]<Ajith> dims : god thing that you are here
>> >>>>[09:26]<Ajith> :)
>> >>>>[09:26]<dims> may not be here for long :(
>> >>>>[09:27]<dims> i got the omdiagrams from ashu...
>> >>>>[09:27]<Chinthaka__> ok
>> >>>>[09:27]<Chinthaka__> I saw the mails
>> >>>>[09:27]  *** chathurah joined #apache-axis
>> >>>>[09:28]<Chinthaka__> well Dims, I want them to put in some OM docs
>> >>>>[09:28]<dims> hang on
>> >>>>[09:28]  *** Deepal joined #apache-axis
>> >>>>[09:29]  *** Chinthaka___ joined #apache-axis
>> >>>>[09:29]  *** Chinthaka joined #apache-axis
>> >>>>[09:30]<Chinthaka___> helllo we have some connection problems here
>> >>>>[09:30]  *** Jaliya__ joined #apache-axis
>> >>>>[09:30]<Deepal> ADSL ?
>> >>>>[09:31]<Chinthaka___> yeah
>> >>>>[09:32]<Chinthaka___> well, can all of you please review the site
>> >>>>[09:32]  *** Chinthaka_ quit FreeNode : Read error: 60 (Operation
>> >
>> > timed
>> >
>> >>>out)
>> >>>
>> >>>>[09:32]  *** Jaliya quit FreeNode : Operation timed out
>> >>>>[09:32]<Chinthaka___> and lets put the documents also there
>> >>>>[09:32]<Chinthaka___> so that we have a site by the time we release 
>> >>>>M1
>> >>>>[09:33]  *** chathura_ joined #apache-axis
>> >>>>[09:33]<Ajith> hey you guys having difficulty with the connection ?
>> >>>>[09:33]<Jaliya__> may be the software
>> >>>>[09:33]<chathura_> not the conection i suppose
>> >>>>[09:36]<farhaan> inorder to have the site up and running shouldn't 
>> >>>>the
>> >>>>project be allocated some space on the server ?
>> >>>>[09:36]<Chinthaka> yes, I think
>> >>>>[09:37]<Chinthaka> well, Dims what do u think abt this ?
>> >>>>[09:37]<Jaliya__> I think we are getting the space from the CVS
>> >>>>[09:37]<Jaliya__> I mean under ws-site
>> >>>>[09:39]<Chinthaka> the site is being currently hosted in my poor
>> >>>>apache account :(
>> >>>>[09:40]<dims> http://ws.apache.org/~dims/axis2/
>> >>>>[09:41]<Chinthaka___> thankx dims
>> >>>>[09:41]<dims> Let's keep the site off-line till we release m1. we can
>> >>>>announce the site url with the m1 announcement.
>> >>>>[09:41]<farhaan> is that a permanent location for the axis2 site ?
>> >>>>[09:41]<dims> it's the same apache server instance service both :)
>> >>>>[09:42]<Chinthaka___> farhaan, it has the om images I requested
>> >>>>[09:42]<dims> farhaan: no these are the images
>> >>>>[09:42]<dims> Chinthaka: can you please make a copy before i lose it
>> >
>> > again
>> >
>> >>>>:)
>> >>>>[09:42]  *** chathura quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
>> >
>> > host)
>> >
>> >>>>[09:43]<Chinthaka___> already done :)
>> >>>>[09:44]<Chinthaka___> so dims, then lets keep the axis 2 site, where
>> >>>>it is now and host it when we release M1
>> >>>>[09:45]<Chinthaka___> so shall we try to make those docs available by
>> >>>>next week ?
>> >>>>[09:45]<Chinthaka___> and till then others can review
>> >>>>[09:45]<Chinthaka___> DIms, what are the docs we require ?
>> >>>>[09:46]<Chinthaka___> we are preparing archi guide and user's guide
>> >>>>which includes installation guide and samples
>> >>>>[09:47]  *** Chinthaka__ quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
>> >>>
>> >>>host)
>> >>>
>> >>>>[09:48]  *** Jaliya_ quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
>> >
>> > host)
>> >
>> >>>>[09:48]<farhaan> dims:so i guess you would allocate some space for 
>> >>>>the
>> >>>>site atleast before the 10th , if we are to make the release on the
>> >>>>12th
>> >>>>[09:48]<dims> Chintaka: sounds good.
>> >>>>[09:48]<dims> farhaan: consider it already allocated :)
>> >>>>[09:48]  *** chathurah quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
>> >
>> > host)
>> >
>> >>>>[09:49]<farhaan> dims: okay :) we are well on course then
>> >>>>[09:49]<farhaan> by the way
>> >>>>[09:50]<farhaan> do you foresee any problems with a M1 release on the
>> >>>
>> >>>12th,
>> >>>
>> >>>>[09:52]<dims> am yet to review code etc...
>> >>>>[09:52]<dims> need a few days (maybe weekend)
>> >>>>[09:52]<dims> do we know who's our competition?
>> >>>>[09:54]<Jaliya__> sistinet?
>> >>>>[09:54]<Chinthaka> ActiveSOAP
>> >>>>[09:54]<Jaliya__> sorry, systinet?
>> >>>>[09:54]<Chinthaka> and Sanjiva was referring to some more
>> >>>>[09:55]  *** Deepal quit FreeNode : "Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster,
>> >>>>Easier. http://miranda-im.org"
>> >>>>[10:01]<farhaan> sanjiva was very particular on getting people like
>> >>>>loghan (i think that was the name) who is implementing his own engine
>> >>>>interested in this and hence the need to produce something fast
>> >>>>[10:02]  *** Chinthaka___ quit FreeNode : "Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla
>> >>>>rv:1.7.5/20041107]"
>> >>>>[10:03]<Chinthaka> seems like time is up
>> >>>>[10:03]<Chinthaka> can some one please post the log
>> >>>>[10:04]<Chinthaka> as I don't have the whole thing
>> >>>>[10:04]<Jaliya__> Bye All
>> >>>>[10:04]  *** Jaliya__ quit FreeNode : "Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla
>> >>>>rv:1.7.5/20041107]"
>> >>>>[10:06]<farhaan> I know this was not too productive, but let's 
>> >>>>discuss
>> >>>>the M1 stuff in detail over the mailing list, bye now
>> >>>>[10:06]  *** farhaan left #apache-axis :
>> >>>>[10:08]<chathura_> can somone post the chat(ppl at sliit havent got
>> >>>>the complete chat)
>> >>>>[10:10]  *** lilantha left #apache-axis :
>> >>>>[10:11]  *** chathura_ left #apache-axis :
>> >>>>
>> >>>>--
>> >>>>Ajith Ranabahu
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> 

Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005

[Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com>]

Hi Farhaan!

I'll start to read the code in earnest later this week / this weekend, and I 
think targeting the chat next week for folks to be done with the review 
would probably be a great idea so that we can use the IRC chat to discuss 
things in realtime.  I agree it hopefully won't take that long, and 
hopefully everyone can commit to that schedule - Dims, Alek, Sanjiva, etc - 
you OK with that plan?

--Glen

P.S.  Very frustrating to be offline from 8AM until evening!  Like missing 
an arm. :)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Farhaan Mohideen" <fa...@opensource.lk>
To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
Cc: "'Srinath Perera'" <he...@gmail.com>; "Glen Daniels" 
<gl...@thoughtcraft.com>
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 2:13 AM
Subject: RE: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005


> Hi
>
> I am all for delivering high-quality design/code. I think we were at this
> same position at the end of December. Glen, Dims, Sam, Alek, etc we want 
> you
> to check our code and design (the design was of course discussed over the
> mailing list + during IRC chats). Please can you give me a date by which 
> you
> will be able to complete this review so that we can then set a date for 
> the
> release based on the review results. Hopefully this shouldn't take longer
> than 2 weeks right? In the meantime we will try to get the documentation
> also out for your review.
>
> Regards
> Farhaan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Srinath Perera [mailto:hemapani@gmail.com]
> Sent: 31 January 2005 11:20
> To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
>
> Hi Glen;
> Nice that all are now back on Axis2 :)
>
> yes I too think that requests are resonable, I belive we can get them
> done in two weeks
>
> We are working on the documentation/ samples and peformance
> evaluation. We will try bit of profiling to make sure things  are
> inorder.
>
> Let us all start looking closly at the code for improvements :). Can
> we have a code review at the chat? (may be we can have more than one
> IRC sessions per week for these two weeks). Can you make to the chat
> this week?
>
> Thanks
> Srinath
>
>
>
> On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 23:01:56 -0500, Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com>
> wrote:
>> Hi folks!
>>
>> I'm not going to +1 a release on the 11th... yet.
>>
>> Here's what I think needs to happen at a *minimum* before cutting a
> release:
>>
>> 1) Some documentation needs to be written (I know you guys are working
>> on this as we speak :)) and edited/checked over by at least two or three
>> folks aside from the author(s).
>>
>> 2) All the code needs cleanup (such as by an IDE's "format code"
>> feature) for consistent style/spacing/etc.
>>
>> 3) All spelling/capitalization errors in the code must be fixed.
>>
>> 4) The existing code needs some more review by the team, and in
>> particular more review from folks outside of LSF (no offense, guys -
>> this isn't meant to make any comment on the code quality, it's just that
>> it's always good to make sure multiple viewpoints are represented) -
>> Alek, Sam, Mark, etc....  I'm very concerned that, although we know this
>> is "only a milestone release of a prototype" that some of the APIs and
>> patterns which we haven't necessarily agreed upon as yet are going to
>> start to gel and become harder to change.  I also suspect we can trim
>> some of the stuff that's there for an initial release.
>>
>> So the net of this is that I'm not comfortable releasing things in their
>> current form, but that will hopefully change in the next two weeks.
>> Unfortunately, I'm going to be in Raleigh from Mon-Fri at meetings where
>> I won't have network access (damn you, IBM!), but I pledge to put some
>> time into this in the evenings and next week.
>>
>> I don't mean to be any kind of a party-pooper here - please understand
>> all these comments are in the interest of producing a seriously
>> high-quality piece of engineering, both from a design perspective and in
>> terms of the actual artifacts we produce as a team.  Even for an early
>> access "release", I think it's critical that we are all on the same page
>> with respect to WHAT we're releasing, WHY we're doing so, and that we
>> all feel proud that what's there (even if limited functionally) is
>> well-architected, well-coded, and solid.  If we don't have all those
>> things verified, I don't think it's worth doing a release at all yet.
>>
>> OK, whaddya think, team?  A reasonable set of requests?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --Glen
>>
>>
>> Farhaan Mohideen wrote:
>> > The release should be on the 11th as the 12th is a Saturday. My mistake
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Farhaan
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Deepal Jayasinghe [mailto:deepal@opensource.lk]
>> > Sent: 29 January 2005 00:23
>> > To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
>> > Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
>> >
>> > +1 , for M1 at Feb 12th
>> >
>> >
>> > Deepal
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Srinath Perera" <he...@gmail.com>
>> > To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
>> > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 5:59 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>+1, for M1 at the Feb 12
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:15:20 +0600, Sanjiva Weerawarana
>> >><sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>+1 for going ahead with an M1 on Feb. 12th.
>> >>>
>> >>>Sanjiva.
>> >>>
>> >>>----- Original Message -----
>> >>>From: "Farhaan Mohideen" <fa...@opensource.lk>
>> >>>To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
>> >>>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:25 PM
>> >>>
>> >>>Subject: RE: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>Hi All
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Before Sri Lanka was affected by the tsunami we were well on course
>> >
>> > for a
>> >
>> >>>>milestone release in the first week of January with only the
>> >
>> > documentation
>> >
>> >>>>outstanding. I think during that period Alek, Dims and Glen said that
>> >
>> > they
>> >
>> >>>>would have a look at the code out under prototype 1.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Now the team is back on track with Axis after working on the various
>> >>>
>> >>>Sahana
>> >>>
>> >>>>applications. We would like to proceed with the milestone release and
>> >>>
>> >>>would
>> >>>
>> >>>>appreciate some feedback from everyone whose been contributing to the
>> >>>>project. How does the 12th of Feb sound ? Since our first meeting in
>> >>>
>> >>>August,
>> >>>
>> >>>>counting the days it would show that we have spent almost 5 months to
>> >
>> > get
>> >
>> >>>>this far. Without holding back further I suggest we push forward and
>> >
>> > get
>> >
>> >>>>something out.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Srinath you were voted in as the Release Manager, could you send a
>> >
>> > draft
>> >
>> >>>of
>> >>>
>> >>>>the release plan so that all can comment.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Farhaan
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>-----Original Message-----
>> >>>>From: Ajith Ranabahu [mailto:ajith.ranabahu@gmail.com]
>> >>>>Sent: 27 January 2005 10:48
>> >>>>To: Axis developer list
>> >>>>Subject: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
>> >>>>
>> >>>>The topic of todays chat was the upcoming M1. There were some 
>> >>>>concerns
>> >>>>about the site as well.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>[08:58]  ***  Apache Axis - SOAP WSDL WSDD
>> >>>>[08:59]  *** Jaliya joined #apache-axis
>> >>>>[08:59]  *** Chinthaka_ joined #apache-axis
>> >>>>[08:59]  *** Chinthaka left #apache-axis :
>> >>>>[09:02]  *** Deepal joined #apache-axis
>> >>>>[09:03]<Ajith> Hi all
>> >>>>[09:04]<Jaliya> Hi All
>> >>>>[09:04]<Deepal> Hi all
>> >>>>[09:05]  *** farhaan joined #apache-axis
>> >>>>[09:05]<farhaan> Hi All
>> >>>>[09:07]  *** farhaan sets topic for #apache-axis : Apache Axis -
>> >>>>Milestone Release
>> >>>>[09:08]<Chinthaka_> hi all
>> >>>>[09:09]<Ajith> Hey where are all the others
>> >>>>[09:09]<Ajith> ?
>> >>>>[09:10]<farhaan> is this too early/late to start ?
>> >>>>[09:10]<Chinthaka_> tsunami for all others ;)
>> >>>>[09:10]<Jaliya> It is already 9.10 am here
>> >>>>[09:12]  *** lilantha joined #apache-axis
>> >>>>[09:14]<Chinthaka_> well shall we start talking about M1 ?
>> >>>>[09:14]<Deepal> good idea
>> >>>>[09:15]<Chinthaka_> anyway, any plans for the date of release ?
>> >>>>[09:16]  *** chathura joined #apache-axis
>> >>>>[09:16]<Chinthaka_> I think its some where around 12 or 15
>> >>>>[09:16]<Chinthaka_> next month
>> >>>>[09:17]<farhaan> yes we should be okay with 12th Feb
>> >>>>[09:17]<farhaan> Let's discuss what is outstanding for the release
>> >>>>[09:17]<Ajith> BTW guys what has happend to glen and all ?
>> >>>>[09:18]<Deepal> We have completed coding stuff for M1
>> >>>>[09:18]<farhaan> as far as i know before the tsunami we were in very
>> >>>>good shape where the functionality was concerned and it was the
>> >>>>documentation that was missing
>> >>>>[09:18]<Deepal> and only documentation has to be done
>> >>>>[09:18]<Jaliya> and examples
>> >>>>[09:19]<Jaliya> I mean samples + docs
>> >>>>[09:19]<Chinthaka_> well I myself and Chathura started with samples
>> >>>>[09:19]<Deepal> yep
>> >>>>[09:19]<farhaan> so can we first get concurrence from all on the
>> >>>>features for M1 as a reminder atleast
>> >>>>[09:19]<Chinthaka_> and the user's guide
>> >>>>[09:19]<Deepal> and I stared archi guide
>> >>>>[09:22]<Ajith> myswlf and srinath did some perf tests
>> >>>>[09:22]<Ajith> and fixed some bugs as well
>> >>>>[09:22]<Chinthaka_> great
>> >>>>[09:23]  *** Deepal quit FreeNode : Read error: 54 (Connection reset
>> >
>> > by
>> >
>> >>>>peer)
>> >>>>[09:24]  *** Chinthaka__ joined #apache-axis
>> >>>>[09:24]<Chinthaka__> hello
>> >>>>[09:24]  *** Jaliya_ joined #apache-axis
>> >>>>[09:24]<Chinthaka__> helllooooooooooooo
>> >>>>[09:25]<Ajith> yeah
>> >>>>[09:25]<Chinthaka__> oki, i was disconnected
>> >>>>[09:25]<dims> Ajith: do we have some DOM wrapper stuff already?
>> >>>>[09:25]<Chinthaka__> nop
>> >>>>[09:25]<Ajith> nope
>> >>>>[09:25]<Chinthaka__> I don't think its required now
>> >>>>[09:25]<Ajith> not yet
>> >>>>[09:26]<dims> ok. just curious.
>> >>>>[09:26]<Chinthaka__> I started that sometime back
>> >>>>[09:26]<Chinthaka__> but stopped for the time being
>> >>>>[09:26]<Ajith> dims : god thing that you are here
>> >>>>[09:26]<Ajith> :)
>> >>>>[09:26]<dims> may not be here for long :(
>> >>>>[09:27]<dims> i got the omdiagrams from ashu...
>> >>>>[09:27]<Chinthaka__> ok
>> >>>>[09:27]<Chinthaka__> I saw the mails
>> >>>>[09:27]  *** chathurah joined #apache-axis
>> >>>>[09:28]<Chinthaka__> well Dims, I want them to put in some OM docs
>> >>>>[09:28]<dims> hang on
>> >>>>[09:28]  *** Deepal joined #apache-axis
>> >>>>[09:29]  *** Chinthaka___ joined #apache-axis
>> >>>>[09:29]  *** Chinthaka joined #apache-axis
>> >>>>[09:30]<Chinthaka___> helllo we have some connection problems here
>> >>>>[09:30]  *** Jaliya__ joined #apache-axis
>> >>>>[09:30]<Deepal> ADSL ?
>> >>>>[09:31]<Chinthaka___> yeah
>> >>>>[09:32]<Chinthaka___> well, can all of you please review the site
>> >>>>[09:32]  *** Chinthaka_ quit FreeNode : Read error: 60 (Operation
>> >
>> > timed
>> >
>> >>>out)
>> >>>
>> >>>>[09:32]  *** Jaliya quit FreeNode : Operation timed out
>> >>>>[09:32]<Chinthaka___> and lets put the documents also there
>> >>>>[09:32]<Chinthaka___> so that we have a site by the time we release 
>> >>>>M1
>> >>>>[09:33]  *** chathura_ joined #apache-axis
>> >>>>[09:33]<Ajith> hey you guys having difficulty with the connection ?
>> >>>>[09:33]<Jaliya__> may be the software
>> >>>>[09:33]<chathura_> not the conection i suppose
>> >>>>[09:36]<farhaan> inorder to have the site up and running shouldn't 
>> >>>>the
>> >>>>project be allocated some space on the server ?
>> >>>>[09:36]<Chinthaka> yes, I think
>> >>>>[09:37]<Chinthaka> well, Dims what do u think abt this ?
>> >>>>[09:37]<Jaliya__> I think we are getting the space from the CVS
>> >>>>[09:37]<Jaliya__> I mean under ws-site
>> >>>>[09:39]<Chinthaka> the site is being currently hosted in my poor
>> >>>>apache account :(
>> >>>>[09:40]<dims> http://ws.apache.org/~dims/axis2/
>> >>>>[09:41]<Chinthaka___> thankx dims
>> >>>>[09:41]<dims> Let's keep the site off-line till we release m1. we can
>> >>>>announce the site url with the m1 announcement.
>> >>>>[09:41]<farhaan> is that a permanent location for the axis2 site ?
>> >>>>[09:41]<dims> it's the same apache server instance service both :)
>> >>>>[09:42]<Chinthaka___> farhaan, it has the om images I requested
>> >>>>[09:42]<dims> farhaan: no these are the images
>> >>>>[09:42]<dims> Chinthaka: can you please make a copy before i lose it
>> >
>> > again
>> >
>> >>>>:)
>> >>>>[09:42]  *** chathura quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
>> >
>> > host)
>> >
>> >>>>[09:43]<Chinthaka___> already done :)
>> >>>>[09:44]<Chinthaka___> so dims, then lets keep the axis 2 site, where
>> >>>>it is now and host it when we release M1
>> >>>>[09:45]<Chinthaka___> so shall we try to make those docs available by
>> >>>>next week ?
>> >>>>[09:45]<Chinthaka___> and till then others can review
>> >>>>[09:45]<Chinthaka___> DIms, what are the docs we require ?
>> >>>>[09:46]<Chinthaka___> we are preparing archi guide and user's guide
>> >>>>which includes installation guide and samples
>> >>>>[09:47]  *** Chinthaka__ quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
>> >>>
>> >>>host)
>> >>>
>> >>>>[09:48]  *** Jaliya_ quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
>> >
>> > host)
>> >
>> >>>>[09:48]<farhaan> dims:so i guess you would allocate some space for 
>> >>>>the
>> >>>>site atleast before the 10th , if we are to make the release on the
>> >>>>12th
>> >>>>[09:48]<dims> Chintaka: sounds good.
>> >>>>[09:48]<dims> farhaan: consider it already allocated :)
>> >>>>[09:48]  *** chathurah quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
>> >
>> > host)
>> >
>> >>>>[09:49]<farhaan> dims: okay :) we are well on course then
>> >>>>[09:49]<farhaan> by the way
>> >>>>[09:50]<farhaan> do you foresee any problems with a M1 release on the
>> >>>
>> >>>12th,
>> >>>
>> >>>>[09:52]<dims> am yet to review code etc...
>> >>>>[09:52]<dims> need a few days (maybe weekend)
>> >>>>[09:52]<dims> do we know who's our competition?
>> >>>>[09:54]<Jaliya__> sistinet?
>> >>>>[09:54]<Chinthaka> ActiveSOAP
>> >>>>[09:54]<Jaliya__> sorry, systinet?
>> >>>>[09:54]<Chinthaka> and Sanjiva was referring to some more
>> >>>>[09:55]  *** Deepal quit FreeNode : "Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster,
>> >>>>Easier. http://miranda-im.org"
>> >>>>[10:01]<farhaan> sanjiva was very particular on getting people like
>> >>>>loghan (i think that was the name) who is implementing his own engine
>> >>>>interested in this and hence the need to produce something fast
>> >>>>[10:02]  *** Chinthaka___ quit FreeNode : "Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla
>> >>>>rv:1.7.5/20041107]"
>> >>>>[10:03]<Chinthaka> seems like time is up
>> >>>>[10:03]<Chinthaka> can some one please post the log
>> >>>>[10:04]<Chinthaka> as I don't have the whole thing
>> >>>>[10:04]<Jaliya__> Bye All
>> >>>>[10:04]  *** Jaliya__ quit FreeNode : "Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla
>> >>>>rv:1.7.5/20041107]"
>> >>>>[10:06]<farhaan> I know this was not too productive, but let's 
>> >>>>discuss
>> >>>>the M1 stuff in detail over the mailing list, bye now
>> >>>>[10:06]  *** farhaan left #apache-axis :
>> >>>>[10:08]<chathura_> can somone post the chat(ppl at sliit havent got
>> >>>>the complete chat)
>> >>>>[10:10]  *** lilantha left #apache-axis :
>> >>>>[10:11]  *** chathura_ left #apache-axis :
>> >>>>
>> >>>>--
>> >>>>Ajith Ranabahu
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> 

Re: [Axis2] release/review Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005

[Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com>]

Alek,

+1 to contrib'ing your ant task.

-- dims


On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 02:33:56 -0500, Aleksander Slominski
<as...@cs.indiana.edu> wrote:
> Farhaan Mohideen wrote:
> 
> >Hi
> >
> >I am all for delivering high-quality design/code. I think we were at this
> >same position at the end of December. Glen, Dims, Sam, Alek,
> >
> i am swamped with work but i am very concerned about client and server
> API especially how easy to use they are (WS-Addressing async?) and in
> particular how to enable flexible XML-Java databinding (i think Mark D.
> Hansen described need for it pretty well)
> 
> so i would like to look on M1 from this point of view: what is that
> developer needs to do to get service described in WSDL with doc/literal
> implemented and to access such service? do we have wsdl2java with
> pluggable XML-Java generator? cant wsdl2java be made to generate
> flexible databinding code? i think that supporting soap-enc becomes more
> of headache than a real need ...
> 
> also i can contribute code i wrote recently for ant task to do
> wsdl2java-like operation but that uses XmlBeans v1 and i can tweak that
> code to generate necessary stubs or skeletons needed to make AXIS2
> runtime happy to use XmlBeans generated classes from WSDL/XML Schemas
> for client (Call) and server (Service?)
> 
> >etc we want you
> >to check our code and design (the design was of course discussed over the
> >mailing list + during IRC chats). Please can you give me a date by which you
> >will be able to complete this review so that we can then set a date for the
> >release based on the review results.
> >
> 
> >Hopefully this shouldn't take longer
> >than 2 weeks right? In the meantime we will try to get the documentation
> >also out for your review.
> >
> >
> i would like to look on it when M1 code development is more or less
> finished and has some documentation so i can get some working examples ...
> 
> alek
> 
> >Regards
> >Farhaan
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Srinath Perera [mailto:hemapani@gmail.com]
> >Sent: 31 January 2005 11:20
> >To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
> >Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
> >
> >Hi Glen;
> >Nice that all are now back on Axis2 :)
> >
> >yes I too think that requests are resonable, I belive we can get them
> >done in two weeks
> >
> >We are working on the documentation/ samples and peformance
> >evaluation. We will try bit of profiling to make sure things  are
> >inorder.
> >
> >Let us all start looking closly at the code for improvements :). Can
> >we have a code review at the chat? (may be we can have more than one
> >IRC sessions per week for these two weeks). Can you make to the chat
> >this week?
> >
> >Thanks
> >Srinath
> >
> >
> >
> >On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 23:01:56 -0500, Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hi folks!
> >>
> >>I'm not going to +1 a release on the 11th... yet.
> >>
> >>Here's what I think needs to happen at a *minimum* before cutting a
> >>
> >>
> >release:
> >
> >
> >>1) Some documentation needs to be written (I know you guys are working
> >>on this as we speak :)) and edited/checked over by at least two or three
> >>folks aside from the author(s).
> >>
> >>2) All the code needs cleanup (such as by an IDE's "format code"
> >>feature) for consistent style/spacing/etc.
> >>
> >>3) All spelling/capitalization errors in the code must be fixed.
> >>
> >>4) The existing code needs some more review by the team, and in
> >>particular more review from folks outside of LSF (no offense, guys -
> >>this isn't meant to make any comment on the code quality, it's just that
> >>it's always good to make sure multiple viewpoints are represented) -
> >>Alek, Sam, Mark, etc....  I'm very concerned that, although we know this
> >>is "only a milestone release of a prototype" that some of the APIs and
> >>patterns which we haven't necessarily agreed upon as yet are going to
> >>start to gel and become harder to change.  I also suspect we can trim
> >>some of the stuff that's there for an initial release.
> >>
> >>So the net of this is that I'm not comfortable releasing things in their
> >>current form, but that will hopefully change in the next two weeks.
> >>Unfortunately, I'm going to be in Raleigh from Mon-Fri at meetings where
> >>I won't have network access (damn you, IBM!), but I pledge to put some
> >>time into this in the evenings and next week.
> >>
> >>I don't mean to be any kind of a party-pooper here - please understand
> >>all these comments are in the interest of producing a seriously
> >>high-quality piece of engineering, both from a design perspective and in
> >>terms of the actual artifacts we produce as a team.  Even for an early
> >>access "release", I think it's critical that we are all on the same page
> >>with respect to WHAT we're releasing, WHY we're doing so, and that we
> >>all feel proud that what's there (even if limited functionally) is
> >>well-architected, well-coded, and solid.  If we don't have all those
> >>things verified, I don't think it's worth doing a release at all yet.
> >>
> >>OK, whaddya think, team?  A reasonable set of requests?
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>--Glen
> >>
> >>
> >>Farhaan Mohideen wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>The release should be on the 11th as the 12th is a Saturday. My mistake
> >>>
> >>>Regards
> >>>Farhaan
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: Deepal Jayasinghe [mailto:deepal@opensource.lk]
> >>>Sent: 29 January 2005 00:23
> >>>To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
> >>>Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
> >>>
> >>>+1 , for M1 at Feb 12th
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Deepal
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Srinath Perera" <he...@gmail.com>
> >>>To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
> >>>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 5:59 PM
> >>>Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>+1, for M1 at the Feb 12
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:15:20 +0600, Sanjiva Weerawarana
> >>>><sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>+1 for going ahead with an M1 on Feb. 12th.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Sanjiva.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>From: "Farhaan Mohideen" <fa...@opensource.lk>
> >>>>>To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
> >>>>>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:25 PM
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Subject: RE: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Hi All
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Before Sri Lanka was affected by the tsunami we were well on course
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>for a
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>milestone release in the first week of January with only the
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>documentation
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>outstanding. I think during that period Alek, Dims and Glen said that
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>they
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>would have a look at the code out under prototype 1.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Now the team is back on track with Axis after working on the various
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>Sahana
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>applications. We would like to proceed with the milestone release and
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>would
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>appreciate some feedback from everyone whose been contributing to the
> >>>>>>project. How does the 12th of Feb sound ? Since our first meeting in
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>August,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>counting the days it would show that we have spent almost 5 months to
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>get
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>this far. Without holding back further I suggest we push forward and
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>get
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>something out.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Srinath you were voted in as the Release Manager, could you send a
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>draft
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>of
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>the release plan so that all can comment.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Farhaan
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>From: Ajith Ranabahu [mailto:ajith.ranabahu@gmail.com]
> >>>>>>Sent: 27 January 2005 10:48
> >>>>>>To: Axis developer list
> >>>>>>Subject: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>The topic of todays chat was the upcoming M1. There were some concerns
> >>>>>>about the site as well.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>[08:58]  ***  Apache Axis - SOAP WSDL WSDD
> >>>>>>[08:59]  *** Jaliya joined #apache-axis
> >>>>>>[08:59]  *** Chinthaka_ joined #apache-axis
> >>>>>>[08:59]  *** Chinthaka left #apache-axis :
> >>>>>>[09:02]  *** Deepal joined #apache-axis
> >>>>>>[09:03]<Ajith> Hi all
> >>>>>>[09:04]<Jaliya> Hi All
> >>>>>>[09:04]<Deepal> Hi all
> >>>>>>[09:05]  *** farhaan joined #apache-axis
> >>>>>>[09:05]<farhaan> Hi All
> >>>>>>[09:07]  *** farhaan sets topic for #apache-axis : Apache Axis -
> >>>>>>Milestone Release
> >>>>>>[09:08]<Chinthaka_> hi all
> >>>>>>[09:09]<Ajith> Hey where are all the others
> >>>>>>[09:09]<Ajith> ?
> >>>>>>[09:10]<farhaan> is this too early/late to start ?
> >>>>>>[09:10]<Chinthaka_> tsunami for all others ;)
> >>>>>>[09:10]<Jaliya> It is already 9.10 am here
> >>>>>>[09:12]  *** lilantha joined #apache-axis
> >>>>>>[09:14]<Chinthaka_> well shall we start talking about M1 ?
> >>>>>>[09:14]<Deepal> good idea
> >>>>>>[09:15]<Chinthaka_> anyway, any plans for the date of release ?
> >>>>>>[09:16]  *** chathura joined #apache-axis
> >>>>>>[09:16]<Chinthaka_> I think its some where around 12 or 15
> >>>>>>[09:16]<Chinthaka_> next month
> >>>>>>[09:17]<farhaan> yes we should be okay with 12th Feb
> >>>>>>[09:17]<farhaan> Let's discuss what is outstanding for the release
> >>>>>>[09:17]<Ajith> BTW guys what has happend to glen and all ?
> >>>>>>[09:18]<Deepal> We have completed coding stuff for M1
> >>>>>>[09:18]<farhaan> as far as i know before the tsunami we were in very
> >>>>>>good shape where the functionality was concerned and it was the
> >>>>>>documentation that was missing
> >>>>>>[09:18]<Deepal> and only documentation has to be done
> >>>>>>[09:18]<Jaliya> and examples
> >>>>>>[09:19]<Jaliya> I mean samples + docs
> >>>>>>[09:19]<Chinthaka_> well I myself and Chathura started with samples
> >>>>>>[09:19]<Deepal> yep
> >>>>>>[09:19]<farhaan> so can we first get concurrence from all on the
> >>>>>>features for M1 as a reminder atleast
> >>>>>>[09:19]<Chinthaka_> and the user's guide
> >>>>>>[09:19]<Deepal> and I stared archi guide
> >>>>>>[09:22]<Ajith> myswlf and srinath did some perf tests
> >>>>>>[09:22]<Ajith> and fixed some bugs as well
> >>>>>>[09:22]<Chinthaka_> great
> >>>>>>[09:23]  *** Deepal quit FreeNode : Read error: 54 (Connection reset
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>by
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>peer)
> >>>>>>[09:24]  *** Chinthaka__ joined #apache-axis
> >>>>>>[09:24]<Chinthaka__> hello
> >>>>>>[09:24]  *** Jaliya_ joined #apache-axis
> >>>>>>[09:24]<Chinthaka__> helllooooooooooooo
> >>>>>>[09:25]<Ajith> yeah
> >>>>>>[09:25]<Chinthaka__> oki, i was disconnected
> >>>>>>[09:25]<dims> Ajith: do we have some DOM wrapper stuff already?
> >>>>>>[09:25]<Chinthaka__> nop
> >>>>>>[09:25]<Ajith> nope
> >>>>>>[09:25]<Chinthaka__> I don't think its required now
> >>>>>>[09:25]<Ajith> not yet
> >>>>>>[09:26]<dims> ok. just curious.
> >>>>>>[09:26]<Chinthaka__> I started that sometime back
> >>>>>>[09:26]<Chinthaka__> but stopped for the time being
> >>>>>>[09:26]<Ajith> dims : god thing that you are here
> >>>>>>[09:26]<Ajith> :)
> >>>>>>[09:26]<dims> may not be here for long :(
> >>>>>>[09:27]<dims> i got the omdiagrams from ashu...
> >>>>>>[09:27]<Chinthaka__> ok
> >>>>>>[09:27]<Chinthaka__> I saw the mails
> >>>>>>[09:27]  *** chathurah joined #apache-axis
> >>>>>>[09:28]<Chinthaka__> well Dims, I want them to put in some OM docs
> >>>>>>[09:28]<dims> hang on
> >>>>>>[09:28]  *** Deepal joined #apache-axis
> >>>>>>[09:29]  *** Chinthaka___ joined #apache-axis
> >>>>>>[09:29]  *** Chinthaka joined #apache-axis
> >>>>>>[09:30]<Chinthaka___> helllo we have some connection problems here
> >>>>>>[09:30]  *** Jaliya__ joined #apache-axis
> >>>>>>[09:30]<Deepal> ADSL ?
> >>>>>>[09:31]<Chinthaka___> yeah
> >>>>>>[09:32]<Chinthaka___> well, can all of you please review the site
> >>>>>>[09:32]  *** Chinthaka_ quit FreeNode : Read error: 60 (Operation
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>timed
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>out)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>[09:32]  *** Jaliya quit FreeNode : Operation timed out
> >>>>>>[09:32]<Chinthaka___> and lets put the documents also there
> >>>>>>[09:32]<Chinthaka___> so that we have a site by the time we release M1
> >>>>>>[09:33]  *** chathura_ joined #apache-axis
> >>>>>>[09:33]<Ajith> hey you guys having difficulty with the connection ?
> >>>>>>[09:33]<Jaliya__> may be the software
> >>>>>>[09:33]<chathura_> not the conection i suppose
> >>>>>>[09:36]<farhaan> inorder to have the site up and running shouldn't the
> >>>>>>project be allocated some space on the server ?
> >>>>>>[09:36]<Chinthaka> yes, I think
> >>>>>>[09:37]<Chinthaka> well, Dims what do u think abt this ?
> >>>>>>[09:37]<Jaliya__> I think we are getting the space from the CVS
> >>>>>>[09:37]<Jaliya__> I mean under ws-site
> >>>>>>[09:39]<Chinthaka> the site is being currently hosted in my poor
> >>>>>>apache account :(
> >>>>>>[09:40]<dims>http://ws.apache.org/~dims/axis2/
> >>>>>>[09:41]<Chinthaka___> thankx dims
> >>>>>>[09:41]<dims> Let's keep the site off-line till we release m1. we can
> >>>>>>announce the site url with the m1 announcement.
> >>>>>>[09:41]<farhaan> is that a permanent location for the axis2 site ?
> >>>>>>[09:41]<dims> it's the same apache server instance service both :)
> >>>>>>[09:42]<Chinthaka___> farhaan, it has the om images I requested
> >>>>>>[09:42]<dims> farhaan: no these are the images
> >>>>>>[09:42]<dims> Chinthaka: can you please make a copy before i lose it
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>again
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>:)
> >>>>>>[09:42]  *** chathura quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>host)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>[09:43]<Chinthaka___> already done :)
> >>>>>>[09:44]<Chinthaka___> so dims, then lets keep the axis 2 site, where
> >>>>>>it is now and host it when we release M1
> >>>>>>[09:45]<Chinthaka___> so shall we try to make those docs available by
> >>>>>>next week ?
> >>>>>>[09:45]<Chinthaka___> and till then others can review
> >>>>>>[09:45]<Chinthaka___> DIms, what are the docs we require ?
> >>>>>>[09:46]<Chinthaka___> we are preparing archi guide and user's guide
> >>>>>>which includes installation guide and samples
> >>>>>>[09:47]  *** Chinthaka__ quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>host)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>[09:48]  *** Jaliya_ quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>host)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>[09:48]<farhaan> dims:so i guess you would allocate some space for the
> >>>>>>site atleast before the 10th , if we are to make the release on the
> >>>>>>12th
> >>>>>>[09:48]<dims> Chintaka: sounds good.
> >>>>>>[09:48]<dims> farhaan: consider it already allocated :)
> >>>>>>[09:48]  *** chathurah quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>host)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>[09:49]<farhaan> dims: okay :) we are well on course then
> >>>>>>[09:49]<farhaan> by the way
> >>>>>>[09:50]<farhaan> do you foresee any problems with a M1 release on the
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>12th,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>[09:52]<dims> am yet to review code etc...
> >>>>>>[09:52]<dims> need a few days (maybe weekend)
> >>>>>>[09:52]<dims> do we know who's our competition?
> >>>>>>[09:54]<Jaliya__> sistinet?
> >>>>>>[09:54]<Chinthaka> ActiveSOAP
> >>>>>>[09:54]<Jaliya__> sorry, systinet?
> >>>>>>[09:54]<Chinthaka> and Sanjiva was referring to some more
> >>>>>>[09:55]  *** Deepal quit FreeNode : "Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster,
> >>>>>>Easier. http://miranda-im.org"
> >>>>>>[10:01]<farhaan> sanjiva was very particular on getting people like
> >>>>>>loghan (i think that was the name) who is implementing his own engine
> >>>>>>interested in this and hence the need to produce something fast
> >>>>>>[10:02]  *** Chinthaka___ quit FreeNode : "Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla
> >>>>>>rv:1.7.5/20041107]"
> >>>>>>[10:03]<Chinthaka> seems like time is up
> >>>>>>[10:03]<Chinthaka> can some one please post the log
> >>>>>>[10:04]<Chinthaka> as I don't have the whole thing
> >>>>>>[10:04]<Jaliya__> Bye All
> >>>>>>[10:04]  *** Jaliya__ quit FreeNode : "Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla
> >>>>>>rv:1.7.5/20041107]"
> >>>>>>[10:06]<farhaan> I know this was not too productive, but let's discuss
> >>>>>>the M1 stuff in detail over the mailing list, bye now
> >>>>>>[10:06]  *** farhaan left #apache-axis :
> >>>>>>[10:08]<chathura_> can somone post the chat(ppl at sliit havent got
> >>>>>>the complete chat)
> >>>>>>[10:10]  *** lilantha left #apache-axis :
> >>>>>>[10:11]  *** chathura_ left #apache-axis :
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>--
> >>>>>>Ajith Ranabahu
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> --
> The best way to predict the future is to invent it - Alan Kay
> 
> 


-- 
Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/

Re: [Axis2] release/review Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005

[Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>]

"Aleksander Slominski" <as...@cs.indiana.edu> writes:
> >
> i am swamped with work but i am very concerned about client and server 
> API especially how easy to use they are (WS-Addressing async?) and in 
> particular how to enable flexible XML-Java databinding (i think Mark D. 
> Hansen described need for it pretty well)

M1 is not going to have any data binding. AXIOM must, of course, 
support data binding but we agreed not to have data binding 
included in this release.
 
> so i would like to look on M1 from this point of view: what is that 
> developer needs to do to get service described in WSDL with doc/literal 
> implemented and to access such service? do we have wsdl2java with 
> pluggable XML-Java generator? cant wsdl2java be made to generate 
> flexible databinding code? i think that supporting soap-enc becomes more 
> of headache than a real need ...

Again, no WSDL2<anything> in M1.
 
> also i can contribute code i wrote recently for ant task to do 
> wsdl2java-like operation but that uses XmlBeans v1 and i can tweak that 
> code to generate necessary stubs or skeletons needed to make AXIS2 
> runtime happy to use XmlBeans generated classes from WSDL/XML Schemas 
> for client (Call) and server (Service?)

Cool; +1.

Sanjiva.

[Axis2] release/review Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005

[Aleksander Slominski <as...@cs.indiana.edu>]

Farhaan Mohideen wrote:

>Hi 
>
>I am all for delivering high-quality design/code. I think we were at this
>same position at the end of December. Glen, Dims, Sam, Alek, 
>
i am swamped with work but i am very concerned about client and server 
API especially how easy to use they are (WS-Addressing async?) and in 
particular how to enable flexible XML-Java databinding (i think Mark D. 
Hansen described need for it pretty well)

so i would like to look on M1 from this point of view: what is that 
developer needs to do to get service described in WSDL with doc/literal 
implemented and to access such service? do we have wsdl2java with 
pluggable XML-Java generator? cant wsdl2java be made to generate 
flexible databinding code? i think that supporting soap-enc becomes more 
of headache than a real need ...

also i can contribute code i wrote recently for ant task to do 
wsdl2java-like operation but that uses XmlBeans v1 and i can tweak that 
code to generate necessary stubs or skeletons needed to make AXIS2 
runtime happy to use XmlBeans generated classes from WSDL/XML Schemas 
for client (Call) and server (Service?)


>etc we want you
>to check our code and design (the design was of course discussed over the
>mailing list + during IRC chats). Please can you give me a date by which you
>will be able to complete this review so that we can then set a date for the
>release based on the review results. 
>

>Hopefully this shouldn't take longer
>than 2 weeks right? In the meantime we will try to get the documentation
>also out for your review. 
>  
>
i would like to look on it when M1 code development is more or less 
finished and has some documentation so i can get some working examples ...

alek

>Regards
>Farhaan   
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Srinath Perera [mailto:hemapani@gmail.com] 
>Sent: 31 January 2005 11:20
>To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
>Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
>
>Hi Glen; 
>Nice that all are now back on Axis2 :)
>
>yes I too think that requests are resonable, I belive we can get them
>done in two weeks
>
>We are working on the documentation/ samples and peformance
>evaluation. We will try bit of profiling to make sure things  are
>inorder.
>
>Let us all start looking closly at the code for improvements :). Can
>we have a code review at the chat? (may be we can have more than one
>IRC sessions per week for these two weeks). Can you make to the chat
>this week?
>
>Thanks
>Srinath
>
>
>
>On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 23:01:56 -0500, Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com>
>wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi folks!
>>
>>I'm not going to +1 a release on the 11th... yet.
>>
>>Here's what I think needs to happen at a *minimum* before cutting a
>>    
>>
>release:
>  
>
>>1) Some documentation needs to be written (I know you guys are working
>>on this as we speak :)) and edited/checked over by at least two or three
>>folks aside from the author(s).
>>
>>2) All the code needs cleanup (such as by an IDE's "format code"
>>feature) for consistent style/spacing/etc.
>>
>>3) All spelling/capitalization errors in the code must be fixed.
>>
>>4) The existing code needs some more review by the team, and in
>>particular more review from folks outside of LSF (no offense, guys -
>>this isn't meant to make any comment on the code quality, it's just that
>>it's always good to make sure multiple viewpoints are represented) -
>>Alek, Sam, Mark, etc....  I'm very concerned that, although we know this
>>is "only a milestone release of a prototype" that some of the APIs and
>>patterns which we haven't necessarily agreed upon as yet are going to
>>start to gel and become harder to change.  I also suspect we can trim
>>some of the stuff that's there for an initial release.
>>
>>So the net of this is that I'm not comfortable releasing things in their
>>current form, but that will hopefully change in the next two weeks.
>>Unfortunately, I'm going to be in Raleigh from Mon-Fri at meetings where
>>I won't have network access (damn you, IBM!), but I pledge to put some
>>time into this in the evenings and next week.
>>
>>I don't mean to be any kind of a party-pooper here - please understand
>>all these comments are in the interest of producing a seriously
>>high-quality piece of engineering, both from a design perspective and in
>>terms of the actual artifacts we produce as a team.  Even for an early
>>access "release", I think it's critical that we are all on the same page
>>with respect to WHAT we're releasing, WHY we're doing so, and that we
>>all feel proud that what's there (even if limited functionally) is
>>well-architected, well-coded, and solid.  If we don't have all those
>>things verified, I don't think it's worth doing a release at all yet.
>>
>>OK, whaddya think, team?  A reasonable set of requests?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>--Glen
>>
>>
>>Farhaan Mohideen wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>The release should be on the 11th as the 12th is a Saturday. My mistake
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>Farhaan
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Deepal Jayasinghe [mailto:deepal@opensource.lk]
>>>Sent: 29 January 2005 00:23
>>>To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
>>>Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
>>>
>>>+1 , for M1 at Feb 12th
>>>
>>>
>>>Deepal
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Srinath Perera" <he...@gmail.com>
>>>To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
>>>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 5:59 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>+1, for M1 at the Feb 12
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:15:20 +0600, Sanjiva Weerawarana
>>>><sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>+1 for going ahead with an M1 on Feb. 12th.
>>>>>
>>>>>Sanjiva.
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Farhaan Mohideen" <fa...@opensource.lk>
>>>>>To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:25 PM
>>>>>
>>>>>Subject: RE: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi All
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Before Sri Lanka was affected by the tsunami we were well on course
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>for a
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>>milestone release in the first week of January with only the
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>documentation
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>>outstanding. I think during that period Alek, Dims and Glen said that
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>they
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>>would have a look at the code out under prototype 1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Now the team is back on track with Axis after working on the various
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>Sahana
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>applications. We would like to proceed with the milestone release and
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>would
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>appreciate some feedback from everyone whose been contributing to the
>>>>>>project. How does the 12th of Feb sound ? Since our first meeting in
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>August,
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>counting the days it would show that we have spent almost 5 months to
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>get
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>>this far. Without holding back further I suggest we push forward and
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>get
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>>something out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Srinath you were voted in as the Release Manager, could you send a
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>draft
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>of
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>the release plan so that all can comment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Farhaan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: Ajith Ranabahu [mailto:ajith.ranabahu@gmail.com]
>>>>>>Sent: 27 January 2005 10:48
>>>>>>To: Axis developer list
>>>>>>Subject: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The topic of todays chat was the upcoming M1. There were some concerns
>>>>>>about the site as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>[08:58]  ***  Apache Axis - SOAP WSDL WSDD
>>>>>>[08:59]  *** Jaliya joined #apache-axis
>>>>>>[08:59]  *** Chinthaka_ joined #apache-axis
>>>>>>[08:59]  *** Chinthaka left #apache-axis :
>>>>>>[09:02]  *** Deepal joined #apache-axis
>>>>>>[09:03]<Ajith> Hi all
>>>>>>[09:04]<Jaliya> Hi All
>>>>>>[09:04]<Deepal> Hi all
>>>>>>[09:05]  *** farhaan joined #apache-axis
>>>>>>[09:05]<farhaan> Hi All
>>>>>>[09:07]  *** farhaan sets topic for #apache-axis : Apache Axis -
>>>>>>Milestone Release
>>>>>>[09:08]<Chinthaka_> hi all
>>>>>>[09:09]<Ajith> Hey where are all the others
>>>>>>[09:09]<Ajith> ?
>>>>>>[09:10]<farhaan> is this too early/late to start ?
>>>>>>[09:10]<Chinthaka_> tsunami for all others ;)
>>>>>>[09:10]<Jaliya> It is already 9.10 am here
>>>>>>[09:12]  *** lilantha joined #apache-axis
>>>>>>[09:14]<Chinthaka_> well shall we start talking about M1 ?
>>>>>>[09:14]<Deepal> good idea
>>>>>>[09:15]<Chinthaka_> anyway, any plans for the date of release ?
>>>>>>[09:16]  *** chathura joined #apache-axis
>>>>>>[09:16]<Chinthaka_> I think its some where around 12 or 15
>>>>>>[09:16]<Chinthaka_> next month
>>>>>>[09:17]<farhaan> yes we should be okay with 12th Feb
>>>>>>[09:17]<farhaan> Let's discuss what is outstanding for the release
>>>>>>[09:17]<Ajith> BTW guys what has happend to glen and all ?
>>>>>>[09:18]<Deepal> We have completed coding stuff for M1
>>>>>>[09:18]<farhaan> as far as i know before the tsunami we were in very
>>>>>>good shape where the functionality was concerned and it was the
>>>>>>documentation that was missing
>>>>>>[09:18]<Deepal> and only documentation has to be done
>>>>>>[09:18]<Jaliya> and examples
>>>>>>[09:19]<Jaliya> I mean samples + docs
>>>>>>[09:19]<Chinthaka_> well I myself and Chathura started with samples
>>>>>>[09:19]<Deepal> yep
>>>>>>[09:19]<farhaan> so can we first get concurrence from all on the
>>>>>>features for M1 as a reminder atleast
>>>>>>[09:19]<Chinthaka_> and the user's guide
>>>>>>[09:19]<Deepal> and I stared archi guide
>>>>>>[09:22]<Ajith> myswlf and srinath did some perf tests
>>>>>>[09:22]<Ajith> and fixed some bugs as well
>>>>>>[09:22]<Chinthaka_> great
>>>>>>[09:23]  *** Deepal quit FreeNode : Read error: 54 (Connection reset
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>by
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>>peer)
>>>>>>[09:24]  *** Chinthaka__ joined #apache-axis
>>>>>>[09:24]<Chinthaka__> hello
>>>>>>[09:24]  *** Jaliya_ joined #apache-axis
>>>>>>[09:24]<Chinthaka__> helllooooooooooooo
>>>>>>[09:25]<Ajith> yeah
>>>>>>[09:25]<Chinthaka__> oki, i was disconnected
>>>>>>[09:25]<dims> Ajith: do we have some DOM wrapper stuff already?
>>>>>>[09:25]<Chinthaka__> nop
>>>>>>[09:25]<Ajith> nope
>>>>>>[09:25]<Chinthaka__> I don't think its required now
>>>>>>[09:25]<Ajith> not yet
>>>>>>[09:26]<dims> ok. just curious.
>>>>>>[09:26]<Chinthaka__> I started that sometime back
>>>>>>[09:26]<Chinthaka__> but stopped for the time being
>>>>>>[09:26]<Ajith> dims : god thing that you are here
>>>>>>[09:26]<Ajith> :)
>>>>>>[09:26]<dims> may not be here for long :(
>>>>>>[09:27]<dims> i got the omdiagrams from ashu...
>>>>>>[09:27]<Chinthaka__> ok
>>>>>>[09:27]<Chinthaka__> I saw the mails
>>>>>>[09:27]  *** chathurah joined #apache-axis
>>>>>>[09:28]<Chinthaka__> well Dims, I want them to put in some OM docs
>>>>>>[09:28]<dims> hang on
>>>>>>[09:28]  *** Deepal joined #apache-axis
>>>>>>[09:29]  *** Chinthaka___ joined #apache-axis
>>>>>>[09:29]  *** Chinthaka joined #apache-axis
>>>>>>[09:30]<Chinthaka___> helllo we have some connection problems here
>>>>>>[09:30]  *** Jaliya__ joined #apache-axis
>>>>>>[09:30]<Deepal> ADSL ?
>>>>>>[09:31]<Chinthaka___> yeah
>>>>>>[09:32]<Chinthaka___> well, can all of you please review the site
>>>>>>[09:32]  *** Chinthaka_ quit FreeNode : Read error: 60 (Operation
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>timed
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>out)
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>[09:32]  *** Jaliya quit FreeNode : Operation timed out
>>>>>>[09:32]<Chinthaka___> and lets put the documents also there
>>>>>>[09:32]<Chinthaka___> so that we have a site by the time we release M1
>>>>>>[09:33]  *** chathura_ joined #apache-axis
>>>>>>[09:33]<Ajith> hey you guys having difficulty with the connection ?
>>>>>>[09:33]<Jaliya__> may be the software
>>>>>>[09:33]<chathura_> not the conection i suppose
>>>>>>[09:36]<farhaan> inorder to have the site up and running shouldn't the
>>>>>>project be allocated some space on the server ?
>>>>>>[09:36]<Chinthaka> yes, I think
>>>>>>[09:37]<Chinthaka> well, Dims what do u think abt this ?
>>>>>>[09:37]<Jaliya__> I think we are getting the space from the CVS
>>>>>>[09:37]<Jaliya__> I mean under ws-site
>>>>>>[09:39]<Chinthaka> the site is being currently hosted in my poor
>>>>>>apache account :(
>>>>>>[09:40]<dims> http://ws.apache.org/~dims/axis2/
>>>>>>[09:41]<Chinthaka___> thankx dims
>>>>>>[09:41]<dims> Let's keep the site off-line till we release m1. we can
>>>>>>announce the site url with the m1 announcement.
>>>>>>[09:41]<farhaan> is that a permanent location for the axis2 site ?
>>>>>>[09:41]<dims> it's the same apache server instance service both :)
>>>>>>[09:42]<Chinthaka___> farhaan, it has the om images I requested
>>>>>>[09:42]<dims> farhaan: no these are the images
>>>>>>[09:42]<dims> Chinthaka: can you please make a copy before i lose it
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>again
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>>:)
>>>>>>[09:42]  *** chathura quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>host)
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>>[09:43]<Chinthaka___> already done :)
>>>>>>[09:44]<Chinthaka___> so dims, then lets keep the axis 2 site, where
>>>>>>it is now and host it when we release M1
>>>>>>[09:45]<Chinthaka___> so shall we try to make those docs available by
>>>>>>next week ?
>>>>>>[09:45]<Chinthaka___> and till then others can review
>>>>>>[09:45]<Chinthaka___> DIms, what are the docs we require ?
>>>>>>[09:46]<Chinthaka___> we are preparing archi guide and user's guide
>>>>>>which includes installation guide and samples
>>>>>>[09:47]  *** Chinthaka__ quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>host)
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>[09:48]  *** Jaliya_ quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>host)
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>>[09:48]<farhaan> dims:so i guess you would allocate some space for the
>>>>>>site atleast before the 10th , if we are to make the release on the
>>>>>>12th
>>>>>>[09:48]<dims> Chintaka: sounds good.
>>>>>>[09:48]<dims> farhaan: consider it already allocated :)
>>>>>>[09:48]  *** chathurah quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>host)
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>>[09:49]<farhaan> dims: okay :) we are well on course then
>>>>>>[09:49]<farhaan> by the way
>>>>>>[09:50]<farhaan> do you foresee any problems with a M1 release on the
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>12th,
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>[09:52]<dims> am yet to review code etc...
>>>>>>[09:52]<dims> need a few days (maybe weekend)
>>>>>>[09:52]<dims> do we know who's our competition?
>>>>>>[09:54]<Jaliya__> sistinet?
>>>>>>[09:54]<Chinthaka> ActiveSOAP
>>>>>>[09:54]<Jaliya__> sorry, systinet?
>>>>>>[09:54]<Chinthaka> and Sanjiva was referring to some more
>>>>>>[09:55]  *** Deepal quit FreeNode : "Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster,
>>>>>>Easier. http://miranda-im.org"
>>>>>>[10:01]<farhaan> sanjiva was very particular on getting people like
>>>>>>loghan (i think that was the name) who is implementing his own engine
>>>>>>interested in this and hence the need to produce something fast
>>>>>>[10:02]  *** Chinthaka___ quit FreeNode : "Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla
>>>>>>rv:1.7.5/20041107]"
>>>>>>[10:03]<Chinthaka> seems like time is up
>>>>>>[10:03]<Chinthaka> can some one please post the log
>>>>>>[10:04]<Chinthaka> as I don't have the whole thing
>>>>>>[10:04]<Jaliya__> Bye All
>>>>>>[10:04]  *** Jaliya__ quit FreeNode : "Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla
>>>>>>rv:1.7.5/20041107]"
>>>>>>[10:06]<farhaan> I know this was not too productive, but let's discuss
>>>>>>the M1 stuff in detail over the mailing list, bye now
>>>>>>[10:06]  *** farhaan left #apache-axis :
>>>>>>[10:08]<chathura_> can somone post the chat(ppl at sliit havent got
>>>>>>the complete chat)
>>>>>>[10:10]  *** lilantha left #apache-axis :
>>>>>>[10:11]  *** chathura_ left #apache-axis :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>Ajith Ranabahu
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>
>
>
>  
>


-- 
The best way to predict the future is to invent it - Alan Kay

RE: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005

[Farhaan Mohideen <fa...@opensource.lk>]

Hi 

I am all for delivering high-quality design/code. I think we were at this
same position at the end of December. Glen, Dims, Sam, Alek, etc we want you
to check our code and design (the design was of course discussed over the
mailing list + during IRC chats). Please can you give me a date by which you
will be able to complete this review so that we can then set a date for the
release based on the review results. Hopefully this shouldn't take longer
than 2 weeks right? In the meantime we will try to get the documentation
also out for your review. 

Regards
Farhaan   

-----Original Message-----
From: Srinath Perera [mailto:hemapani@gmail.com] 
Sent: 31 January 2005 11:20
To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005

Hi Glen; 
Nice that all are now back on Axis2 :)

yes I too think that requests are resonable, I belive we can get them
done in two weeks

We are working on the documentation/ samples and peformance
evaluation. We will try bit of profiling to make sure things  are
inorder.

Let us all start looking closly at the code for improvements :). Can
we have a code review at the chat? (may be we can have more than one
IRC sessions per week for these two weeks). Can you make to the chat
this week?

Thanks
Srinath



On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 23:01:56 -0500, Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com>
wrote:
> Hi folks!
> 
> I'm not going to +1 a release on the 11th... yet.
> 
> Here's what I think needs to happen at a *minimum* before cutting a
release:
> 
> 1) Some documentation needs to be written (I know you guys are working
> on this as we speak :)) and edited/checked over by at least two or three
> folks aside from the author(s).
> 
> 2) All the code needs cleanup (such as by an IDE's "format code"
> feature) for consistent style/spacing/etc.
> 
> 3) All spelling/capitalization errors in the code must be fixed.
> 
> 4) The existing code needs some more review by the team, and in
> particular more review from folks outside of LSF (no offense, guys -
> this isn't meant to make any comment on the code quality, it's just that
> it's always good to make sure multiple viewpoints are represented) -
> Alek, Sam, Mark, etc....  I'm very concerned that, although we know this
> is "only a milestone release of a prototype" that some of the APIs and
> patterns which we haven't necessarily agreed upon as yet are going to
> start to gel and become harder to change.  I also suspect we can trim
> some of the stuff that's there for an initial release.
> 
> So the net of this is that I'm not comfortable releasing things in their
> current form, but that will hopefully change in the next two weeks.
> Unfortunately, I'm going to be in Raleigh from Mon-Fri at meetings where
> I won't have network access (damn you, IBM!), but I pledge to put some
> time into this in the evenings and next week.
> 
> I don't mean to be any kind of a party-pooper here - please understand
> all these comments are in the interest of producing a seriously
> high-quality piece of engineering, both from a design perspective and in
> terms of the actual artifacts we produce as a team.  Even for an early
> access "release", I think it's critical that we are all on the same page
> with respect to WHAT we're releasing, WHY we're doing so, and that we
> all feel proud that what's there (even if limited functionally) is
> well-architected, well-coded, and solid.  If we don't have all those
> things verified, I don't think it's worth doing a release at all yet.
> 
> OK, whaddya think, team?  A reasonable set of requests?
> 
> Thanks,
> --Glen
> 
> 
> Farhaan Mohideen wrote:
> > The release should be on the 11th as the 12th is a Saturday. My mistake
> >
> > Regards
> > Farhaan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Deepal Jayasinghe [mailto:deepal@opensource.lk]
> > Sent: 29 January 2005 00:23
> > To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
> >
> > +1 , for M1 at Feb 12th
> >
> >
> > Deepal
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Srinath Perera" <he...@gmail.com>
> > To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 5:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
> >
> >
> >
> >>+1, for M1 at the Feb 12
> >>
> >>
> >>On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:15:20 +0600, Sanjiva Weerawarana
> >><sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> >>
> >>>+1 for going ahead with an M1 on Feb. 12th.
> >>>
> >>>Sanjiva.
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Farhaan Mohideen" <fa...@opensource.lk>
> >>>To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
> >>>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:25 PM
> >>>
> >>>Subject: RE: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Hi All
> >>>>
> >>>>Before Sri Lanka was affected by the tsunami we were well on course
> >
> > for a
> >
> >>>>milestone release in the first week of January with only the
> >
> > documentation
> >
> >>>>outstanding. I think during that period Alek, Dims and Glen said that
> >
> > they
> >
> >>>>would have a look at the code out under prototype 1.
> >>>>
> >>>>Now the team is back on track with Axis after working on the various
> >>>
> >>>Sahana
> >>>
> >>>>applications. We would like to proceed with the milestone release and
> >>>
> >>>would
> >>>
> >>>>appreciate some feedback from everyone whose been contributing to the
> >>>>project. How does the 12th of Feb sound ? Since our first meeting in
> >>>
> >>>August,
> >>>
> >>>>counting the days it would show that we have spent almost 5 months to
> >
> > get
> >
> >>>>this far. Without holding back further I suggest we push forward and
> >
> > get
> >
> >>>>something out.
> >>>>
> >>>>Srinath you were voted in as the Release Manager, could you send a
> >
> > draft
> >
> >>>of
> >>>
> >>>>the release plan so that all can comment.
> >>>>
> >>>>Farhaan
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: Ajith Ranabahu [mailto:ajith.ranabahu@gmail.com]
> >>>>Sent: 27 January 2005 10:48
> >>>>To: Axis developer list
> >>>>Subject: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
> >>>>
> >>>>The topic of todays chat was the upcoming M1. There were some concerns
> >>>>about the site as well.
> >>>>
> >>>>[08:58]  ***  Apache Axis - SOAP WSDL WSDD
> >>>>[08:59]  *** Jaliya joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[08:59]  *** Chinthaka_ joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[08:59]  *** Chinthaka left #apache-axis :
> >>>>[09:02]  *** Deepal joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[09:03]<Ajith> Hi all
> >>>>[09:04]<Jaliya> Hi All
> >>>>[09:04]<Deepal> Hi all
> >>>>[09:05]  *** farhaan joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[09:05]<farhaan> Hi All
> >>>>[09:07]  *** farhaan sets topic for #apache-axis : Apache Axis -
> >>>>Milestone Release
> >>>>[09:08]<Chinthaka_> hi all
> >>>>[09:09]<Ajith> Hey where are all the others
> >>>>[09:09]<Ajith> ?
> >>>>[09:10]<farhaan> is this too early/late to start ?
> >>>>[09:10]<Chinthaka_> tsunami for all others ;)
> >>>>[09:10]<Jaliya> It is already 9.10 am here
> >>>>[09:12]  *** lilantha joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[09:14]<Chinthaka_> well shall we start talking about M1 ?
> >>>>[09:14]<Deepal> good idea
> >>>>[09:15]<Chinthaka_> anyway, any plans for the date of release ?
> >>>>[09:16]  *** chathura joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[09:16]<Chinthaka_> I think its some where around 12 or 15
> >>>>[09:16]<Chinthaka_> next month
> >>>>[09:17]<farhaan> yes we should be okay with 12th Feb
> >>>>[09:17]<farhaan> Let's discuss what is outstanding for the release
> >>>>[09:17]<Ajith> BTW guys what has happend to glen and all ?
> >>>>[09:18]<Deepal> We have completed coding stuff for M1
> >>>>[09:18]<farhaan> as far as i know before the tsunami we were in very
> >>>>good shape where the functionality was concerned and it was the
> >>>>documentation that was missing
> >>>>[09:18]<Deepal> and only documentation has to be done
> >>>>[09:18]<Jaliya> and examples
> >>>>[09:19]<Jaliya> I mean samples + docs
> >>>>[09:19]<Chinthaka_> well I myself and Chathura started with samples
> >>>>[09:19]<Deepal> yep
> >>>>[09:19]<farhaan> so can we first get concurrence from all on the
> >>>>features for M1 as a reminder atleast
> >>>>[09:19]<Chinthaka_> and the user's guide
> >>>>[09:19]<Deepal> and I stared archi guide
> >>>>[09:22]<Ajith> myswlf and srinath did some perf tests
> >>>>[09:22]<Ajith> and fixed some bugs as well
> >>>>[09:22]<Chinthaka_> great
> >>>>[09:23]  *** Deepal quit FreeNode : Read error: 54 (Connection reset
> >
> > by
> >
> >>>>peer)
> >>>>[09:24]  *** Chinthaka__ joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[09:24]<Chinthaka__> hello
> >>>>[09:24]  *** Jaliya_ joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[09:24]<Chinthaka__> helllooooooooooooo
> >>>>[09:25]<Ajith> yeah
> >>>>[09:25]<Chinthaka__> oki, i was disconnected
> >>>>[09:25]<dims> Ajith: do we have some DOM wrapper stuff already?
> >>>>[09:25]<Chinthaka__> nop
> >>>>[09:25]<Ajith> nope
> >>>>[09:25]<Chinthaka__> I don't think its required now
> >>>>[09:25]<Ajith> not yet
> >>>>[09:26]<dims> ok. just curious.
> >>>>[09:26]<Chinthaka__> I started that sometime back
> >>>>[09:26]<Chinthaka__> but stopped for the time being
> >>>>[09:26]<Ajith> dims : god thing that you are here
> >>>>[09:26]<Ajith> :)
> >>>>[09:26]<dims> may not be here for long :(
> >>>>[09:27]<dims> i got the omdiagrams from ashu...
> >>>>[09:27]<Chinthaka__> ok
> >>>>[09:27]<Chinthaka__> I saw the mails
> >>>>[09:27]  *** chathurah joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[09:28]<Chinthaka__> well Dims, I want them to put in some OM docs
> >>>>[09:28]<dims> hang on
> >>>>[09:28]  *** Deepal joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[09:29]  *** Chinthaka___ joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[09:29]  *** Chinthaka joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[09:30]<Chinthaka___> helllo we have some connection problems here
> >>>>[09:30]  *** Jaliya__ joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[09:30]<Deepal> ADSL ?
> >>>>[09:31]<Chinthaka___> yeah
> >>>>[09:32]<Chinthaka___> well, can all of you please review the site
> >>>>[09:32]  *** Chinthaka_ quit FreeNode : Read error: 60 (Operation
> >
> > timed
> >
> >>>out)
> >>>
> >>>>[09:32]  *** Jaliya quit FreeNode : Operation timed out
> >>>>[09:32]<Chinthaka___> and lets put the documents also there
> >>>>[09:32]<Chinthaka___> so that we have a site by the time we release M1
> >>>>[09:33]  *** chathura_ joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[09:33]<Ajith> hey you guys having difficulty with the connection ?
> >>>>[09:33]<Jaliya__> may be the software
> >>>>[09:33]<chathura_> not the conection i suppose
> >>>>[09:36]<farhaan> inorder to have the site up and running shouldn't the
> >>>>project be allocated some space on the server ?
> >>>>[09:36]<Chinthaka> yes, I think
> >>>>[09:37]<Chinthaka> well, Dims what do u think abt this ?
> >>>>[09:37]<Jaliya__> I think we are getting the space from the CVS
> >>>>[09:37]<Jaliya__> I mean under ws-site
> >>>>[09:39]<Chinthaka> the site is being currently hosted in my poor
> >>>>apache account :(
> >>>>[09:40]<dims> http://ws.apache.org/~dims/axis2/
> >>>>[09:41]<Chinthaka___> thankx dims
> >>>>[09:41]<dims> Let's keep the site off-line till we release m1. we can
> >>>>announce the site url with the m1 announcement.
> >>>>[09:41]<farhaan> is that a permanent location for the axis2 site ?
> >>>>[09:41]<dims> it's the same apache server instance service both :)
> >>>>[09:42]<Chinthaka___> farhaan, it has the om images I requested
> >>>>[09:42]<dims> farhaan: no these are the images
> >>>>[09:42]<dims> Chinthaka: can you please make a copy before i lose it
> >
> > again
> >
> >>>>:)
> >>>>[09:42]  *** chathura quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
> >
> > host)
> >
> >>>>[09:43]<Chinthaka___> already done :)
> >>>>[09:44]<Chinthaka___> so dims, then lets keep the axis 2 site, where
> >>>>it is now and host it when we release M1
> >>>>[09:45]<Chinthaka___> so shall we try to make those docs available by
> >>>>next week ?
> >>>>[09:45]<Chinthaka___> and till then others can review
> >>>>[09:45]<Chinthaka___> DIms, what are the docs we require ?
> >>>>[09:46]<Chinthaka___> we are preparing archi guide and user's guide
> >>>>which includes installation guide and samples
> >>>>[09:47]  *** Chinthaka__ quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
> >>>
> >>>host)
> >>>
> >>>>[09:48]  *** Jaliya_ quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
> >
> > host)
> >
> >>>>[09:48]<farhaan> dims:so i guess you would allocate some space for the
> >>>>site atleast before the 10th , if we are to make the release on the
> >>>>12th
> >>>>[09:48]<dims> Chintaka: sounds good.
> >>>>[09:48]<dims> farhaan: consider it already allocated :)
> >>>>[09:48]  *** chathurah quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
> >
> > host)
> >
> >>>>[09:49]<farhaan> dims: okay :) we are well on course then
> >>>>[09:49]<farhaan> by the way
> >>>>[09:50]<farhaan> do you foresee any problems with a M1 release on the
> >>>
> >>>12th,
> >>>
> >>>>[09:52]<dims> am yet to review code etc...
> >>>>[09:52]<dims> need a few days (maybe weekend)
> >>>>[09:52]<dims> do we know who's our competition?
> >>>>[09:54]<Jaliya__> sistinet?
> >>>>[09:54]<Chinthaka> ActiveSOAP
> >>>>[09:54]<Jaliya__> sorry, systinet?
> >>>>[09:54]<Chinthaka> and Sanjiva was referring to some more
> >>>>[09:55]  *** Deepal quit FreeNode : "Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster,
> >>>>Easier. http://miranda-im.org"
> >>>>[10:01]<farhaan> sanjiva was very particular on getting people like
> >>>>loghan (i think that was the name) who is implementing his own engine
> >>>>interested in this and hence the need to produce something fast
> >>>>[10:02]  *** Chinthaka___ quit FreeNode : "Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla
> >>>>rv:1.7.5/20041107]"
> >>>>[10:03]<Chinthaka> seems like time is up
> >>>>[10:03]<Chinthaka> can some one please post the log
> >>>>[10:04]<Chinthaka> as I don't have the whole thing
> >>>>[10:04]<Jaliya__> Bye All
> >>>>[10:04]  *** Jaliya__ quit FreeNode : "Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla
> >>>>rv:1.7.5/20041107]"
> >>>>[10:06]<farhaan> I know this was not too productive, but let's discuss
> >>>>the M1 stuff in detail over the mailing list, bye now
> >>>>[10:06]  *** farhaan left #apache-axis :
> >>>>[10:08]<chathura_> can somone post the chat(ppl at sliit havent got
> >>>>the complete chat)
> >>>>[10:10]  *** lilantha left #apache-axis :
> >>>>[10:11]  *** chathura_ left #apache-axis :
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Ajith Ranabahu
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005

[Srinath Perera <he...@gmail.com>]

Hi Glen; 
Nice that all are now back on Axis2 :)

yes I too think that requests are resonable, I belive we can get them
done in two weeks

We are working on the documentation/ samples and peformance
evaluation. We will try bit of profiling to make sure things  are
inorder.

Let us all start looking closly at the code for improvements :). Can
we have a code review at the chat? (may be we can have more than one
IRC sessions per week for these two weeks). Can you make to the chat
this week?

Thanks
Srinath



On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 23:01:56 -0500, Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com> wrote:
> Hi folks!
> 
> I'm not going to +1 a release on the 11th... yet.
> 
> Here's what I think needs to happen at a *minimum* before cutting a release:
> 
> 1) Some documentation needs to be written (I know you guys are working
> on this as we speak :)) and edited/checked over by at least two or three
> folks aside from the author(s).
> 
> 2) All the code needs cleanup (such as by an IDE's "format code"
> feature) for consistent style/spacing/etc.
> 
> 3) All spelling/capitalization errors in the code must be fixed.
> 
> 4) The existing code needs some more review by the team, and in
> particular more review from folks outside of LSF (no offense, guys -
> this isn't meant to make any comment on the code quality, it's just that
> it's always good to make sure multiple viewpoints are represented) -
> Alek, Sam, Mark, etc....  I'm very concerned that, although we know this
> is "only a milestone release of a prototype" that some of the APIs and
> patterns which we haven't necessarily agreed upon as yet are going to
> start to gel and become harder to change.  I also suspect we can trim
> some of the stuff that's there for an initial release.
> 
> So the net of this is that I'm not comfortable releasing things in their
> current form, but that will hopefully change in the next two weeks.
> Unfortunately, I'm going to be in Raleigh from Mon-Fri at meetings where
> I won't have network access (damn you, IBM!), but I pledge to put some
> time into this in the evenings and next week.
> 
> I don't mean to be any kind of a party-pooper here - please understand
> all these comments are in the interest of producing a seriously
> high-quality piece of engineering, both from a design perspective and in
> terms of the actual artifacts we produce as a team.  Even for an early
> access "release", I think it's critical that we are all on the same page
> with respect to WHAT we're releasing, WHY we're doing so, and that we
> all feel proud that what's there (even if limited functionally) is
> well-architected, well-coded, and solid.  If we don't have all those
> things verified, I don't think it's worth doing a release at all yet.
> 
> OK, whaddya think, team?  A reasonable set of requests?
> 
> Thanks,
> --Glen
> 
> 
> Farhaan Mohideen wrote:
> > The release should be on the 11th as the 12th is a Saturday. My mistake
> >
> > Regards
> > Farhaan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Deepal Jayasinghe [mailto:deepal@opensource.lk]
> > Sent: 29 January 2005 00:23
> > To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
> >
> > +1 , for M1 at Feb 12th
> >
> >
> > Deepal
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Srinath Perera" <he...@gmail.com>
> > To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 5:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
> >
> >
> >
> >>+1, for M1 at the Feb 12
> >>
> >>
> >>On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:15:20 +0600, Sanjiva Weerawarana
> >><sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> >>
> >>>+1 for going ahead with an M1 on Feb. 12th.
> >>>
> >>>Sanjiva.
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Farhaan Mohideen" <fa...@opensource.lk>
> >>>To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
> >>>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:25 PM
> >>>
> >>>Subject: RE: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Hi All
> >>>>
> >>>>Before Sri Lanka was affected by the tsunami we were well on course
> >
> > for a
> >
> >>>>milestone release in the first week of January with only the
> >
> > documentation
> >
> >>>>outstanding. I think during that period Alek, Dims and Glen said that
> >
> > they
> >
> >>>>would have a look at the code out under prototype 1.
> >>>>
> >>>>Now the team is back on track with Axis after working on the various
> >>>
> >>>Sahana
> >>>
> >>>>applications. We would like to proceed with the milestone release and
> >>>
> >>>would
> >>>
> >>>>appreciate some feedback from everyone whose been contributing to the
> >>>>project. How does the 12th of Feb sound ? Since our first meeting in
> >>>
> >>>August,
> >>>
> >>>>counting the days it would show that we have spent almost 5 months to
> >
> > get
> >
> >>>>this far. Without holding back further I suggest we push forward and
> >
> > get
> >
> >>>>something out.
> >>>>
> >>>>Srinath you were voted in as the Release Manager, could you send a
> >
> > draft
> >
> >>>of
> >>>
> >>>>the release plan so that all can comment.
> >>>>
> >>>>Farhaan
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: Ajith Ranabahu [mailto:ajith.ranabahu@gmail.com]
> >>>>Sent: 27 January 2005 10:48
> >>>>To: Axis developer list
> >>>>Subject: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
> >>>>
> >>>>The topic of todays chat was the upcoming M1. There were some concerns
> >>>>about the site as well.
> >>>>
> >>>>[08:58]  ***  Apache Axis - SOAP WSDL WSDD
> >>>>[08:59]  *** Jaliya joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[08:59]  *** Chinthaka_ joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[08:59]  *** Chinthaka left #apache-axis :
> >>>>[09:02]  *** Deepal joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[09:03]<Ajith> Hi all
> >>>>[09:04]<Jaliya> Hi All
> >>>>[09:04]<Deepal> Hi all
> >>>>[09:05]  *** farhaan joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[09:05]<farhaan> Hi All
> >>>>[09:07]  *** farhaan sets topic for #apache-axis : Apache Axis -
> >>>>Milestone Release
> >>>>[09:08]<Chinthaka_> hi all
> >>>>[09:09]<Ajith> Hey where are all the others
> >>>>[09:09]<Ajith> ?
> >>>>[09:10]<farhaan> is this too early/late to start ?
> >>>>[09:10]<Chinthaka_> tsunami for all others ;)
> >>>>[09:10]<Jaliya> It is already 9.10 am here
> >>>>[09:12]  *** lilantha joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[09:14]<Chinthaka_> well shall we start talking about M1 ?
> >>>>[09:14]<Deepal> good idea
> >>>>[09:15]<Chinthaka_> anyway, any plans for the date of release ?
> >>>>[09:16]  *** chathura joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[09:16]<Chinthaka_> I think its some where around 12 or 15
> >>>>[09:16]<Chinthaka_> next month
> >>>>[09:17]<farhaan> yes we should be okay with 12th Feb
> >>>>[09:17]<farhaan> Let's discuss what is outstanding for the release
> >>>>[09:17]<Ajith> BTW guys what has happend to glen and all ?
> >>>>[09:18]<Deepal> We have completed coding stuff for M1
> >>>>[09:18]<farhaan> as far as i know before the tsunami we were in very
> >>>>good shape where the functionality was concerned and it was the
> >>>>documentation that was missing
> >>>>[09:18]<Deepal> and only documentation has to be done
> >>>>[09:18]<Jaliya> and examples
> >>>>[09:19]<Jaliya> I mean samples + docs
> >>>>[09:19]<Chinthaka_> well I myself and Chathura started with samples
> >>>>[09:19]<Deepal> yep
> >>>>[09:19]<farhaan> so can we first get concurrence from all on the
> >>>>features for M1 as a reminder atleast
> >>>>[09:19]<Chinthaka_> and the user's guide
> >>>>[09:19]<Deepal> and I stared archi guide
> >>>>[09:22]<Ajith> myswlf and srinath did some perf tests
> >>>>[09:22]<Ajith> and fixed some bugs as well
> >>>>[09:22]<Chinthaka_> great
> >>>>[09:23]  *** Deepal quit FreeNode : Read error: 54 (Connection reset
> >
> > by
> >
> >>>>peer)
> >>>>[09:24]  *** Chinthaka__ joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[09:24]<Chinthaka__> hello
> >>>>[09:24]  *** Jaliya_ joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[09:24]<Chinthaka__> helllooooooooooooo
> >>>>[09:25]<Ajith> yeah
> >>>>[09:25]<Chinthaka__> oki, i was disconnected
> >>>>[09:25]<dims> Ajith: do we have some DOM wrapper stuff already?
> >>>>[09:25]<Chinthaka__> nop
> >>>>[09:25]<Ajith> nope
> >>>>[09:25]<Chinthaka__> I don't think its required now
> >>>>[09:25]<Ajith> not yet
> >>>>[09:26]<dims> ok. just curious.
> >>>>[09:26]<Chinthaka__> I started that sometime back
> >>>>[09:26]<Chinthaka__> but stopped for the time being
> >>>>[09:26]<Ajith> dims : god thing that you are here
> >>>>[09:26]<Ajith> :)
> >>>>[09:26]<dims> may not be here for long :(
> >>>>[09:27]<dims> i got the omdiagrams from ashu...
> >>>>[09:27]<Chinthaka__> ok
> >>>>[09:27]<Chinthaka__> I saw the mails
> >>>>[09:27]  *** chathurah joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[09:28]<Chinthaka__> well Dims, I want them to put in some OM docs
> >>>>[09:28]<dims> hang on
> >>>>[09:28]  *** Deepal joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[09:29]  *** Chinthaka___ joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[09:29]  *** Chinthaka joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[09:30]<Chinthaka___> helllo we have some connection problems here
> >>>>[09:30]  *** Jaliya__ joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[09:30]<Deepal> ADSL ?
> >>>>[09:31]<Chinthaka___> yeah
> >>>>[09:32]<Chinthaka___> well, can all of you please review the site
> >>>>[09:32]  *** Chinthaka_ quit FreeNode : Read error: 60 (Operation
> >
> > timed
> >
> >>>out)
> >>>
> >>>>[09:32]  *** Jaliya quit FreeNode : Operation timed out
> >>>>[09:32]<Chinthaka___> and lets put the documents also there
> >>>>[09:32]<Chinthaka___> so that we have a site by the time we release M1
> >>>>[09:33]  *** chathura_ joined #apache-axis
> >>>>[09:33]<Ajith> hey you guys having difficulty with the connection ?
> >>>>[09:33]<Jaliya__> may be the software
> >>>>[09:33]<chathura_> not the conection i suppose
> >>>>[09:36]<farhaan> inorder to have the site up and running shouldn't the
> >>>>project be allocated some space on the server ?
> >>>>[09:36]<Chinthaka> yes, I think
> >>>>[09:37]<Chinthaka> well, Dims what do u think abt this ?
> >>>>[09:37]<Jaliya__> I think we are getting the space from the CVS
> >>>>[09:37]<Jaliya__> I mean under ws-site
> >>>>[09:39]<Chinthaka> the site is being currently hosted in my poor
> >>>>apache account :(
> >>>>[09:40]<dims> http://ws.apache.org/~dims/axis2/
> >>>>[09:41]<Chinthaka___> thankx dims
> >>>>[09:41]<dims> Let's keep the site off-line till we release m1. we can
> >>>>announce the site url with the m1 announcement.
> >>>>[09:41]<farhaan> is that a permanent location for the axis2 site ?
> >>>>[09:41]<dims> it's the same apache server instance service both :)
> >>>>[09:42]<Chinthaka___> farhaan, it has the om images I requested
> >>>>[09:42]<dims> farhaan: no these are the images
> >>>>[09:42]<dims> Chinthaka: can you please make a copy before i lose it
> >
> > again
> >
> >>>>:)
> >>>>[09:42]  *** chathura quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
> >
> > host)
> >
> >>>>[09:43]<Chinthaka___> already done :)
> >>>>[09:44]<Chinthaka___> so dims, then lets keep the axis 2 site, where
> >>>>it is now and host it when we release M1
> >>>>[09:45]<Chinthaka___> so shall we try to make those docs available by
> >>>>next week ?
> >>>>[09:45]<Chinthaka___> and till then others can review
> >>>>[09:45]<Chinthaka___> DIms, what are the docs we require ?
> >>>>[09:46]<Chinthaka___> we are preparing archi guide and user's guide
> >>>>which includes installation guide and samples
> >>>>[09:47]  *** Chinthaka__ quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
> >>>
> >>>host)
> >>>
> >>>>[09:48]  *** Jaliya_ quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
> >
> > host)
> >
> >>>>[09:48]<farhaan> dims:so i guess you would allocate some space for the
> >>>>site atleast before the 10th , if we are to make the release on the
> >>>>12th
> >>>>[09:48]<dims> Chintaka: sounds good.
> >>>>[09:48]<dims> farhaan: consider it already allocated :)
> >>>>[09:48]  *** chathurah quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
> >
> > host)
> >
> >>>>[09:49]<farhaan> dims: okay :) we are well on course then
> >>>>[09:49]<farhaan> by the way
> >>>>[09:50]<farhaan> do you foresee any problems with a M1 release on the
> >>>
> >>>12th,
> >>>
> >>>>[09:52]<dims> am yet to review code etc...
> >>>>[09:52]<dims> need a few days (maybe weekend)
> >>>>[09:52]<dims> do we know who's our competition?
> >>>>[09:54]<Jaliya__> sistinet?
> >>>>[09:54]<Chinthaka> ActiveSOAP
> >>>>[09:54]<Jaliya__> sorry, systinet?
> >>>>[09:54]<Chinthaka> and Sanjiva was referring to some more
> >>>>[09:55]  *** Deepal quit FreeNode : "Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster,
> >>>>Easier. http://miranda-im.org"
> >>>>[10:01]<farhaan> sanjiva was very particular on getting people like
> >>>>loghan (i think that was the name) who is implementing his own engine
> >>>>interested in this and hence the need to produce something fast
> >>>>[10:02]  *** Chinthaka___ quit FreeNode : "Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla
> >>>>rv:1.7.5/20041107]"
> >>>>[10:03]<Chinthaka> seems like time is up
> >>>>[10:03]<Chinthaka> can some one please post the log
> >>>>[10:04]<Chinthaka> as I don't have the whole thing
> >>>>[10:04]<Jaliya__> Bye All
> >>>>[10:04]  *** Jaliya__ quit FreeNode : "Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla
> >>>>rv:1.7.5/20041107]"
> >>>>[10:06]<farhaan> I know this was not too productive, but let's discuss
> >>>>the M1 stuff in detail over the mailing list, bye now
> >>>>[10:06]  *** farhaan left #apache-axis :
> >>>>[10:08]<chathura_> can somone post the chat(ppl at sliit havent got
> >>>>the complete chat)
> >>>>[10:10]  *** lilantha left #apache-axis :
> >>>>[10:11]  *** chathura_ left #apache-axis :
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Ajith Ranabahu
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005

[Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com>]

Hi folks!

I'm not going to +1 a release on the 11th... yet.

Here's what I think needs to happen at a *minimum* before cutting a release:

1) Some documentation needs to be written (I know you guys are working 
on this as we speak :)) and edited/checked over by at least two or three 
folks aside from the author(s).

2) All the code needs cleanup (such as by an IDE's "format code" 
feature) for consistent style/spacing/etc.

3) All spelling/capitalization errors in the code must be fixed.

4) The existing code needs some more review by the team, and in 
particular more review from folks outside of LSF (no offense, guys - 
this isn't meant to make any comment on the code quality, it's just that 
it's always good to make sure multiple viewpoints are represented) - 
Alek, Sam, Mark, etc....  I'm very concerned that, although we know this 
is "only a milestone release of a prototype" that some of the APIs and 
patterns which we haven't necessarily agreed upon as yet are going to 
start to gel and become harder to change.  I also suspect we can trim 
some of the stuff that's there for an initial release.

So the net of this is that I'm not comfortable releasing things in their 
current form, but that will hopefully change in the next two weeks. 
Unfortunately, I'm going to be in Raleigh from Mon-Fri at meetings where 
I won't have network access (damn you, IBM!), but I pledge to put some 
time into this in the evenings and next week.

I don't mean to be any kind of a party-pooper here - please understand 
all these comments are in the interest of producing a seriously 
high-quality piece of engineering, both from a design perspective and in 
terms of the actual artifacts we produce as a team.  Even for an early 
access "release", I think it's critical that we are all on the same page 
with respect to WHAT we're releasing, WHY we're doing so, and that we 
all feel proud that what's there (even if limited functionally) is 
well-architected, well-coded, and solid.  If we don't have all those 
things verified, I don't think it's worth doing a release at all yet.

OK, whaddya think, team?  A reasonable set of requests?

Thanks,
--Glen


Farhaan Mohideen wrote:
> The release should be on the 11th as the 12th is a Saturday. My mistake
> 
> Regards
> Farhaan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deepal Jayasinghe [mailto:deepal@opensource.lk] 
> Sent: 29 January 2005 00:23
> To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
> 
> +1 , for M1 at Feb 12th
> 
> 
> Deepal
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Srinath Perera" <he...@gmail.com>
> To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 5:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
> 
> 
> 
>>+1, for M1 at the Feb 12
>>
>>
>>On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:15:20 +0600, Sanjiva Weerawarana
>><sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
>>
>>>+1 for going ahead with an M1 on Feb. 12th.
>>>
>>>Sanjiva.
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Farhaan Mohideen" <fa...@opensource.lk>
>>>To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
>>>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:25 PM
>>>
>>>Subject: RE: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi All
>>>>
>>>>Before Sri Lanka was affected by the tsunami we were well on course
> 
> for a
> 
>>>>milestone release in the first week of January with only the
> 
> documentation
> 
>>>>outstanding. I think during that period Alek, Dims and Glen said that
> 
> they
> 
>>>>would have a look at the code out under prototype 1.
>>>>
>>>>Now the team is back on track with Axis after working on the various
>>>
>>>Sahana
>>>
>>>>applications. We would like to proceed with the milestone release and
>>>
>>>would
>>>
>>>>appreciate some feedback from everyone whose been contributing to the
>>>>project. How does the 12th of Feb sound ? Since our first meeting in
>>>
>>>August,
>>>
>>>>counting the days it would show that we have spent almost 5 months to
> 
> get
> 
>>>>this far. Without holding back further I suggest we push forward and
> 
> get
> 
>>>>something out.
>>>>
>>>>Srinath you were voted in as the Release Manager, could you send a
> 
> draft
> 
>>>of
>>>
>>>>the release plan so that all can comment.
>>>>
>>>>Farhaan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Ajith Ranabahu [mailto:ajith.ranabahu@gmail.com]
>>>>Sent: 27 January 2005 10:48
>>>>To: Axis developer list
>>>>Subject: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
>>>>
>>>>The topic of todays chat was the upcoming M1. There were some concerns
>>>>about the site as well.
>>>>
>>>>[08:58]  ***  Apache Axis - SOAP WSDL WSDD
>>>>[08:59]  *** Jaliya joined #apache-axis
>>>>[08:59]  *** Chinthaka_ joined #apache-axis
>>>>[08:59]  *** Chinthaka left #apache-axis :
>>>>[09:02]  *** Deepal joined #apache-axis
>>>>[09:03]<Ajith> Hi all
>>>>[09:04]<Jaliya> Hi All
>>>>[09:04]<Deepal> Hi all
>>>>[09:05]  *** farhaan joined #apache-axis
>>>>[09:05]<farhaan> Hi All
>>>>[09:07]  *** farhaan sets topic for #apache-axis : Apache Axis -
>>>>Milestone Release
>>>>[09:08]<Chinthaka_> hi all
>>>>[09:09]<Ajith> Hey where are all the others
>>>>[09:09]<Ajith> ?
>>>>[09:10]<farhaan> is this too early/late to start ?
>>>>[09:10]<Chinthaka_> tsunami for all others ;)
>>>>[09:10]<Jaliya> It is already 9.10 am here
>>>>[09:12]  *** lilantha joined #apache-axis
>>>>[09:14]<Chinthaka_> well shall we start talking about M1 ?
>>>>[09:14]<Deepal> good idea
>>>>[09:15]<Chinthaka_> anyway, any plans for the date of release ?
>>>>[09:16]  *** chathura joined #apache-axis
>>>>[09:16]<Chinthaka_> I think its some where around 12 or 15
>>>>[09:16]<Chinthaka_> next month
>>>>[09:17]<farhaan> yes we should be okay with 12th Feb
>>>>[09:17]<farhaan> Let's discuss what is outstanding for the release
>>>>[09:17]<Ajith> BTW guys what has happend to glen and all ?
>>>>[09:18]<Deepal> We have completed coding stuff for M1
>>>>[09:18]<farhaan> as far as i know before the tsunami we were in very
>>>>good shape where the functionality was concerned and it was the
>>>>documentation that was missing
>>>>[09:18]<Deepal> and only documentation has to be done
>>>>[09:18]<Jaliya> and examples
>>>>[09:19]<Jaliya> I mean samples + docs
>>>>[09:19]<Chinthaka_> well I myself and Chathura started with samples
>>>>[09:19]<Deepal> yep
>>>>[09:19]<farhaan> so can we first get concurrence from all on the
>>>>features for M1 as a reminder atleast
>>>>[09:19]<Chinthaka_> and the user's guide
>>>>[09:19]<Deepal> and I stared archi guide
>>>>[09:22]<Ajith> myswlf and srinath did some perf tests
>>>>[09:22]<Ajith> and fixed some bugs as well
>>>>[09:22]<Chinthaka_> great
>>>>[09:23]  *** Deepal quit FreeNode : Read error: 54 (Connection reset
> 
> by
> 
>>>>peer)
>>>>[09:24]  *** Chinthaka__ joined #apache-axis
>>>>[09:24]<Chinthaka__> hello
>>>>[09:24]  *** Jaliya_ joined #apache-axis
>>>>[09:24]<Chinthaka__> helllooooooooooooo
>>>>[09:25]<Ajith> yeah
>>>>[09:25]<Chinthaka__> oki, i was disconnected
>>>>[09:25]<dims> Ajith: do we have some DOM wrapper stuff already?
>>>>[09:25]<Chinthaka__> nop
>>>>[09:25]<Ajith> nope
>>>>[09:25]<Chinthaka__> I don't think its required now
>>>>[09:25]<Ajith> not yet
>>>>[09:26]<dims> ok. just curious.
>>>>[09:26]<Chinthaka__> I started that sometime back
>>>>[09:26]<Chinthaka__> but stopped for the time being
>>>>[09:26]<Ajith> dims : god thing that you are here
>>>>[09:26]<Ajith> :)
>>>>[09:26]<dims> may not be here for long :(
>>>>[09:27]<dims> i got the omdiagrams from ashu...
>>>>[09:27]<Chinthaka__> ok
>>>>[09:27]<Chinthaka__> I saw the mails
>>>>[09:27]  *** chathurah joined #apache-axis
>>>>[09:28]<Chinthaka__> well Dims, I want them to put in some OM docs
>>>>[09:28]<dims> hang on
>>>>[09:28]  *** Deepal joined #apache-axis
>>>>[09:29]  *** Chinthaka___ joined #apache-axis
>>>>[09:29]  *** Chinthaka joined #apache-axis
>>>>[09:30]<Chinthaka___> helllo we have some connection problems here
>>>>[09:30]  *** Jaliya__ joined #apache-axis
>>>>[09:30]<Deepal> ADSL ?
>>>>[09:31]<Chinthaka___> yeah
>>>>[09:32]<Chinthaka___> well, can all of you please review the site
>>>>[09:32]  *** Chinthaka_ quit FreeNode : Read error: 60 (Operation
> 
> timed
> 
>>>out)
>>>
>>>>[09:32]  *** Jaliya quit FreeNode : Operation timed out
>>>>[09:32]<Chinthaka___> and lets put the documents also there
>>>>[09:32]<Chinthaka___> so that we have a site by the time we release M1
>>>>[09:33]  *** chathura_ joined #apache-axis
>>>>[09:33]<Ajith> hey you guys having difficulty with the connection ?
>>>>[09:33]<Jaliya__> may be the software
>>>>[09:33]<chathura_> not the conection i suppose
>>>>[09:36]<farhaan> inorder to have the site up and running shouldn't the
>>>>project be allocated some space on the server ?
>>>>[09:36]<Chinthaka> yes, I think
>>>>[09:37]<Chinthaka> well, Dims what do u think abt this ?
>>>>[09:37]<Jaliya__> I think we are getting the space from the CVS
>>>>[09:37]<Jaliya__> I mean under ws-site
>>>>[09:39]<Chinthaka> the site is being currently hosted in my poor
>>>>apache account :(
>>>>[09:40]<dims> http://ws.apache.org/~dims/axis2/
>>>>[09:41]<Chinthaka___> thankx dims
>>>>[09:41]<dims> Let's keep the site off-line till we release m1. we can
>>>>announce the site url with the m1 announcement.
>>>>[09:41]<farhaan> is that a permanent location for the axis2 site ?
>>>>[09:41]<dims> it's the same apache server instance service both :)
>>>>[09:42]<Chinthaka___> farhaan, it has the om images I requested
>>>>[09:42]<dims> farhaan: no these are the images
>>>>[09:42]<dims> Chinthaka: can you please make a copy before i lose it
> 
> again
> 
>>>>:)
>>>>[09:42]  *** chathura quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
> 
> host)
> 
>>>>[09:43]<Chinthaka___> already done :)
>>>>[09:44]<Chinthaka___> so dims, then lets keep the axis 2 site, where
>>>>it is now and host it when we release M1
>>>>[09:45]<Chinthaka___> so shall we try to make those docs available by
>>>>next week ?
>>>>[09:45]<Chinthaka___> and till then others can review
>>>>[09:45]<Chinthaka___> DIms, what are the docs we require ?
>>>>[09:46]<Chinthaka___> we are preparing archi guide and user's guide
>>>>which includes installation guide and samples
>>>>[09:47]  *** Chinthaka__ quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
>>>
>>>host)
>>>
>>>>[09:48]  *** Jaliya_ quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
> 
> host)
> 
>>>>[09:48]<farhaan> dims:so i guess you would allocate some space for the
>>>>site atleast before the 10th , if we are to make the release on the
>>>>12th
>>>>[09:48]<dims> Chintaka: sounds good.
>>>>[09:48]<dims> farhaan: consider it already allocated :)
>>>>[09:48]  *** chathurah quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
> 
> host)
> 
>>>>[09:49]<farhaan> dims: okay :) we are well on course then
>>>>[09:49]<farhaan> by the way
>>>>[09:50]<farhaan> do you foresee any problems with a M1 release on the
>>>
>>>12th,
>>>
>>>>[09:52]<dims> am yet to review code etc...
>>>>[09:52]<dims> need a few days (maybe weekend)
>>>>[09:52]<dims> do we know who's our competition?
>>>>[09:54]<Jaliya__> sistinet?
>>>>[09:54]<Chinthaka> ActiveSOAP
>>>>[09:54]<Jaliya__> sorry, systinet?
>>>>[09:54]<Chinthaka> and Sanjiva was referring to some more
>>>>[09:55]  *** Deepal quit FreeNode : "Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster,
>>>>Easier. http://miranda-im.org"
>>>>[10:01]<farhaan> sanjiva was very particular on getting people like
>>>>loghan (i think that was the name) who is implementing his own engine
>>>>interested in this and hence the need to produce something fast
>>>>[10:02]  *** Chinthaka___ quit FreeNode : "Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla
>>>>rv:1.7.5/20041107]"
>>>>[10:03]<Chinthaka> seems like time is up
>>>>[10:03]<Chinthaka> can some one please post the log
>>>>[10:04]<Chinthaka> as I don't have the whole thing
>>>>[10:04]<Jaliya__> Bye All
>>>>[10:04]  *** Jaliya__ quit FreeNode : "Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla
>>>>rv:1.7.5/20041107]"
>>>>[10:06]<farhaan> I know this was not too productive, but let's discuss
>>>>the M1 stuff in detail over the mailing list, bye now
>>>>[10:06]  *** farhaan left #apache-axis :
>>>>[10:08]<chathura_> can somone post the chat(ppl at sliit havent got
>>>>the complete chat)
>>>>[10:10]  *** lilantha left #apache-axis :
>>>>[10:11]  *** chathura_ left #apache-axis :
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Ajith Ranabahu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
> 
> 
> 
> 

RE: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005

[Farhaan Mohideen <fa...@opensource.lk>]

The release should be on the 11th as the 12th is a Saturday. My mistake

Regards
Farhaan

-----Original Message-----
From: Deepal Jayasinghe [mailto:deepal@opensource.lk] 
Sent: 29 January 2005 00:23
To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005

+1 , for M1 at Feb 12th


Deepal

----- Original Message -----
From: "Srinath Perera" <he...@gmail.com>
To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005


> +1, for M1 at the Feb 12
>
>
> On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:15:20 +0600, Sanjiva Weerawarana
> <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> > +1 for going ahead with an M1 on Feb. 12th.
> >
> > Sanjiva.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Farhaan Mohideen" <fa...@opensource.lk>
> > To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:25 PM
> >
> > Subject: RE: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
> >
> > > Hi All
> > >
> > > Before Sri Lanka was affected by the tsunami we were well on course
for a
> > > milestone release in the first week of January with only the
documentation
> > > outstanding. I think during that period Alek, Dims and Glen said that
they
> > > would have a look at the code out under prototype 1.
> > >
> > > Now the team is back on track with Axis after working on the various
> > Sahana
> > > applications. We would like to proceed with the milestone release and
> > would
> > > appreciate some feedback from everyone whose been contributing to the
> > > project. How does the 12th of Feb sound ? Since our first meeting in
> > August,
> > > counting the days it would show that we have spent almost 5 months to
get
> > > this far. Without holding back further I suggest we push forward and
get
> > > something out.
> > >
> > > Srinath you were voted in as the Release Manager, could you send a
draft
> > of
> > > the release plan so that all can comment.
> > >
> > > Farhaan
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ajith Ranabahu [mailto:ajith.ranabahu@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: 27 January 2005 10:48
> > > To: Axis developer list
> > > Subject: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
> > >
> > > The topic of todays chat was the upcoming M1. There were some concerns
> > > about the site as well.
> > >
> > > [08:58]  ***  Apache Axis - SOAP WSDL WSDD
> > > [08:59]  *** Jaliya joined #apache-axis
> > > [08:59]  *** Chinthaka_ joined #apache-axis
> > > [08:59]  *** Chinthaka left #apache-axis :
> > > [09:02]  *** Deepal joined #apache-axis
> > > [09:03]<Ajith> Hi all
> > > [09:04]<Jaliya> Hi All
> > > [09:04]<Deepal> Hi all
> > > [09:05]  *** farhaan joined #apache-axis
> > > [09:05]<farhaan> Hi All
> > > [09:07]  *** farhaan sets topic for #apache-axis : Apache Axis -
> > > Milestone Release
> > > [09:08]<Chinthaka_> hi all
> > > [09:09]<Ajith> Hey where are all the others
> > > [09:09]<Ajith> ?
> > > [09:10]<farhaan> is this too early/late to start ?
> > > [09:10]<Chinthaka_> tsunami for all others ;)
> > > [09:10]<Jaliya> It is already 9.10 am here
> > > [09:12]  *** lilantha joined #apache-axis
> > > [09:14]<Chinthaka_> well shall we start talking about M1 ?
> > > [09:14]<Deepal> good idea
> > > [09:15]<Chinthaka_> anyway, any plans for the date of release ?
> > > [09:16]  *** chathura joined #apache-axis
> > > [09:16]<Chinthaka_> I think its some where around 12 or 15
> > > [09:16]<Chinthaka_> next month
> > > [09:17]<farhaan> yes we should be okay with 12th Feb
> > > [09:17]<farhaan> Let's discuss what is outstanding for the release
> > > [09:17]<Ajith> BTW guys what has happend to glen and all ?
> > > [09:18]<Deepal> We have completed coding stuff for M1
> > > [09:18]<farhaan> as far as i know before the tsunami we were in very
> > > good shape where the functionality was concerned and it was the
> > > documentation that was missing
> > > [09:18]<Deepal> and only documentation has to be done
> > > [09:18]<Jaliya> and examples
> > > [09:19]<Jaliya> I mean samples + docs
> > > [09:19]<Chinthaka_> well I myself and Chathura started with samples
> > > [09:19]<Deepal> yep
> > > [09:19]<farhaan> so can we first get concurrence from all on the
> > > features for M1 as a reminder atleast
> > > [09:19]<Chinthaka_> and the user's guide
> > > [09:19]<Deepal> and I stared archi guide
> > > [09:22]<Ajith> myswlf and srinath did some perf tests
> > > [09:22]<Ajith> and fixed some bugs as well
> > > [09:22]<Chinthaka_> great
> > > [09:23]  *** Deepal quit FreeNode : Read error: 54 (Connection reset
by
> > > peer)
> > > [09:24]  *** Chinthaka__ joined #apache-axis
> > > [09:24]<Chinthaka__> hello
> > > [09:24]  *** Jaliya_ joined #apache-axis
> > > [09:24]<Chinthaka__> helllooooooooooooo
> > > [09:25]<Ajith> yeah
> > > [09:25]<Chinthaka__> oki, i was disconnected
> > > [09:25]<dims> Ajith: do we have some DOM wrapper stuff already?
> > > [09:25]<Chinthaka__> nop
> > > [09:25]<Ajith> nope
> > > [09:25]<Chinthaka__> I don't think its required now
> > > [09:25]<Ajith> not yet
> > > [09:26]<dims> ok. just curious.
> > > [09:26]<Chinthaka__> I started that sometime back
> > > [09:26]<Chinthaka__> but stopped for the time being
> > > [09:26]<Ajith> dims : god thing that you are here
> > > [09:26]<Ajith> :)
> > > [09:26]<dims> may not be here for long :(
> > > [09:27]<dims> i got the omdiagrams from ashu...
> > > [09:27]<Chinthaka__> ok
> > > [09:27]<Chinthaka__> I saw the mails
> > > [09:27]  *** chathurah joined #apache-axis
> > > [09:28]<Chinthaka__> well Dims, I want them to put in some OM docs
> > > [09:28]<dims> hang on
> > > [09:28]  *** Deepal joined #apache-axis
> > > [09:29]  *** Chinthaka___ joined #apache-axis
> > > [09:29]  *** Chinthaka joined #apache-axis
> > > [09:30]<Chinthaka___> helllo we have some connection problems here
> > > [09:30]  *** Jaliya__ joined #apache-axis
> > > [09:30]<Deepal> ADSL ?
> > > [09:31]<Chinthaka___> yeah
> > > [09:32]<Chinthaka___> well, can all of you please review the site
> > > [09:32]  *** Chinthaka_ quit FreeNode : Read error: 60 (Operation
timed
> > out)
> > > [09:32]  *** Jaliya quit FreeNode : Operation timed out
> > > [09:32]<Chinthaka___> and lets put the documents also there
> > > [09:32]<Chinthaka___> so that we have a site by the time we release M1
> > > [09:33]  *** chathura_ joined #apache-axis
> > > [09:33]<Ajith> hey you guys having difficulty with the connection ?
> > > [09:33]<Jaliya__> may be the software
> > > [09:33]<chathura_> not the conection i suppose
> > > [09:36]<farhaan> inorder to have the site up and running shouldn't the
> > > project be allocated some space on the server ?
> > > [09:36]<Chinthaka> yes, I think
> > > [09:37]<Chinthaka> well, Dims what do u think abt this ?
> > > [09:37]<Jaliya__> I think we are getting the space from the CVS
> > > [09:37]<Jaliya__> I mean under ws-site
> > > [09:39]<Chinthaka> the site is being currently hosted in my poor
> > > apache account :(
> > > [09:40]<dims> http://ws.apache.org/~dims/axis2/
> > > [09:41]<Chinthaka___> thankx dims
> > > [09:41]<dims> Let's keep the site off-line till we release m1. we can
> > > announce the site url with the m1 announcement.
> > > [09:41]<farhaan> is that a permanent location for the axis2 site ?
> > > [09:41]<dims> it's the same apache server instance service both :)
> > > [09:42]<Chinthaka___> farhaan, it has the om images I requested
> > > [09:42]<dims> farhaan: no these are the images
> > > [09:42]<dims> Chinthaka: can you please make a copy before i lose it
again
> > > :)
> > > [09:42]  *** chathura quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
host)
> > > [09:43]<Chinthaka___> already done :)
> > > [09:44]<Chinthaka___> so dims, then lets keep the axis 2 site, where
> > > it is now and host it when we release M1
> > > [09:45]<Chinthaka___> so shall we try to make those docs available by
> > > next week ?
> > > [09:45]<Chinthaka___> and till then others can review
> > > [09:45]<Chinthaka___> DIms, what are the docs we require ?
> > > [09:46]<Chinthaka___> we are preparing archi guide and user's guide
> > > which includes installation guide and samples
> > > [09:47]  *** Chinthaka__ quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
> > host)
> > > [09:48]  *** Jaliya_ quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
host)
> > > [09:48]<farhaan> dims:so i guess you would allocate some space for the
> > > site atleast before the 10th , if we are to make the release on the
> > > 12th
> > > [09:48]<dims> Chintaka: sounds good.
> > > [09:48]<dims> farhaan: consider it already allocated :)
> > > [09:48]  *** chathurah quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
host)
> > > [09:49]<farhaan> dims: okay :) we are well on course then
> > > [09:49]<farhaan> by the way
> > > [09:50]<farhaan> do you foresee any problems with a M1 release on the
> > 12th,
> > > [09:52]<dims> am yet to review code etc...
> > > [09:52]<dims> need a few days (maybe weekend)
> > > [09:52]<dims> do we know who's our competition?
> > > [09:54]<Jaliya__> sistinet?
> > > [09:54]<Chinthaka> ActiveSOAP
> > > [09:54]<Jaliya__> sorry, systinet?
> > > [09:54]<Chinthaka> and Sanjiva was referring to some more
> > > [09:55]  *** Deepal quit FreeNode : "Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster,
> > > Easier. http://miranda-im.org"
> > > [10:01]<farhaan> sanjiva was very particular on getting people like
> > > loghan (i think that was the name) who is implementing his own engine
> > > interested in this and hence the need to produce something fast
> > > [10:02]  *** Chinthaka___ quit FreeNode : "Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla
> > > rv:1.7.5/20041107]"
> > > [10:03]<Chinthaka> seems like time is up
> > > [10:03]<Chinthaka> can some one please post the log
> > > [10:04]<Chinthaka> as I don't have the whole thing
> > > [10:04]<Jaliya__> Bye All
> > > [10:04]  *** Jaliya__ quit FreeNode : "Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla
> > > rv:1.7.5/20041107]"
> > > [10:06]<farhaan> I know this was not too productive, but let's discuss
> > > the M1 stuff in detail over the mailing list, bye now
> > > [10:06]  *** farhaan left #apache-axis :
> > > [10:08]<chathura_> can somone post the chat(ppl at sliit havent got
> > > the complete chat)
> > > [10:10]  *** lilantha left #apache-axis :
> > > [10:11]  *** chathura_ left #apache-axis :
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ajith Ranabahu
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005

[Deepal Jayasinghe <de...@opensource.lk>]

+1 , for M1 at Feb 12th


Deepal

----- Original Message -----
From: "Srinath Perera" <he...@gmail.com>
To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005


> +1, for M1 at the Feb 12
>
>
> On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:15:20 +0600, Sanjiva Weerawarana
> <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> > +1 for going ahead with an M1 on Feb. 12th.
> >
> > Sanjiva.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Farhaan Mohideen" <fa...@opensource.lk>
> > To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:25 PM
> >
> > Subject: RE: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
> >
> > > Hi All
> > >
> > > Before Sri Lanka was affected by the tsunami we were well on course
for a
> > > milestone release in the first week of January with only the
documentation
> > > outstanding. I think during that period Alek, Dims and Glen said that
they
> > > would have a look at the code out under prototype 1.
> > >
> > > Now the team is back on track with Axis after working on the various
> > Sahana
> > > applications. We would like to proceed with the milestone release and
> > would
> > > appreciate some feedback from everyone whose been contributing to the
> > > project. How does the 12th of Feb sound ? Since our first meeting in
> > August,
> > > counting the days it would show that we have spent almost 5 months to
get
> > > this far. Without holding back further I suggest we push forward and
get
> > > something out.
> > >
> > > Srinath you were voted in as the Release Manager, could you send a
draft
> > of
> > > the release plan so that all can comment.
> > >
> > > Farhaan
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ajith Ranabahu [mailto:ajith.ranabahu@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: 27 January 2005 10:48
> > > To: Axis developer list
> > > Subject: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
> > >
> > > The topic of todays chat was the upcoming M1. There were some concerns
> > > about the site as well.
> > >
> > > [08:58]  ***  Apache Axis - SOAP WSDL WSDD
> > > [08:59]  *** Jaliya joined #apache-axis
> > > [08:59]  *** Chinthaka_ joined #apache-axis
> > > [08:59]  *** Chinthaka left #apache-axis :
> > > [09:02]  *** Deepal joined #apache-axis
> > > [09:03]<Ajith> Hi all
> > > [09:04]<Jaliya> Hi All
> > > [09:04]<Deepal> Hi all
> > > [09:05]  *** farhaan joined #apache-axis
> > > [09:05]<farhaan> Hi All
> > > [09:07]  *** farhaan sets topic for #apache-axis : Apache Axis -
> > > Milestone Release
> > > [09:08]<Chinthaka_> hi all
> > > [09:09]<Ajith> Hey where are all the others
> > > [09:09]<Ajith> ?
> > > [09:10]<farhaan> is this too early/late to start ?
> > > [09:10]<Chinthaka_> tsunami for all others ;)
> > > [09:10]<Jaliya> It is already 9.10 am here
> > > [09:12]  *** lilantha joined #apache-axis
> > > [09:14]<Chinthaka_> well shall we start talking about M1 ?
> > > [09:14]<Deepal> good idea
> > > [09:15]<Chinthaka_> anyway, any plans for the date of release ?
> > > [09:16]  *** chathura joined #apache-axis
> > > [09:16]<Chinthaka_> I think its some where around 12 or 15
> > > [09:16]<Chinthaka_> next month
> > > [09:17]<farhaan> yes we should be okay with 12th Feb
> > > [09:17]<farhaan> Let's discuss what is outstanding for the release
> > > [09:17]<Ajith> BTW guys what has happend to glen and all ?
> > > [09:18]<Deepal> We have completed coding stuff for M1
> > > [09:18]<farhaan> as far as i know before the tsunami we were in very
> > > good shape where the functionality was concerned and it was the
> > > documentation that was missing
> > > [09:18]<Deepal> and only documentation has to be done
> > > [09:18]<Jaliya> and examples
> > > [09:19]<Jaliya> I mean samples + docs
> > > [09:19]<Chinthaka_> well I myself and Chathura started with samples
> > > [09:19]<Deepal> yep
> > > [09:19]<farhaan> so can we first get concurrence from all on the
> > > features for M1 as a reminder atleast
> > > [09:19]<Chinthaka_> and the user's guide
> > > [09:19]<Deepal> and I stared archi guide
> > > [09:22]<Ajith> myswlf and srinath did some perf tests
> > > [09:22]<Ajith> and fixed some bugs as well
> > > [09:22]<Chinthaka_> great
> > > [09:23]  *** Deepal quit FreeNode : Read error: 54 (Connection reset
by
> > > peer)
> > > [09:24]  *** Chinthaka__ joined #apache-axis
> > > [09:24]<Chinthaka__> hello
> > > [09:24]  *** Jaliya_ joined #apache-axis
> > > [09:24]<Chinthaka__> helllooooooooooooo
> > > [09:25]<Ajith> yeah
> > > [09:25]<Chinthaka__> oki, i was disconnected
> > > [09:25]<dims> Ajith: do we have some DOM wrapper stuff already?
> > > [09:25]<Chinthaka__> nop
> > > [09:25]<Ajith> nope
> > > [09:25]<Chinthaka__> I don't think its required now
> > > [09:25]<Ajith> not yet
> > > [09:26]<dims> ok. just curious.
> > > [09:26]<Chinthaka__> I started that sometime back
> > > [09:26]<Chinthaka__> but stopped for the time being
> > > [09:26]<Ajith> dims : god thing that you are here
> > > [09:26]<Ajith> :)
> > > [09:26]<dims> may not be here for long :(
> > > [09:27]<dims> i got the omdiagrams from ashu...
> > > [09:27]<Chinthaka__> ok
> > > [09:27]<Chinthaka__> I saw the mails
> > > [09:27]  *** chathurah joined #apache-axis
> > > [09:28]<Chinthaka__> well Dims, I want them to put in some OM docs
> > > [09:28]<dims> hang on
> > > [09:28]  *** Deepal joined #apache-axis
> > > [09:29]  *** Chinthaka___ joined #apache-axis
> > > [09:29]  *** Chinthaka joined #apache-axis
> > > [09:30]<Chinthaka___> helllo we have some connection problems here
> > > [09:30]  *** Jaliya__ joined #apache-axis
> > > [09:30]<Deepal> ADSL ?
> > > [09:31]<Chinthaka___> yeah
> > > [09:32]<Chinthaka___> well, can all of you please review the site
> > > [09:32]  *** Chinthaka_ quit FreeNode : Read error: 60 (Operation
timed
> > out)
> > > [09:32]  *** Jaliya quit FreeNode : Operation timed out
> > > [09:32]<Chinthaka___> and lets put the documents also there
> > > [09:32]<Chinthaka___> so that we have a site by the time we release M1
> > > [09:33]  *** chathura_ joined #apache-axis
> > > [09:33]<Ajith> hey you guys having difficulty with the connection ?
> > > [09:33]<Jaliya__> may be the software
> > > [09:33]<chathura_> not the conection i suppose
> > > [09:36]<farhaan> inorder to have the site up and running shouldn't the
> > > project be allocated some space on the server ?
> > > [09:36]<Chinthaka> yes, I think
> > > [09:37]<Chinthaka> well, Dims what do u think abt this ?
> > > [09:37]<Jaliya__> I think we are getting the space from the CVS
> > > [09:37]<Jaliya__> I mean under ws-site
> > > [09:39]<Chinthaka> the site is being currently hosted in my poor
> > > apache account :(
> > > [09:40]<dims> http://ws.apache.org/~dims/axis2/
> > > [09:41]<Chinthaka___> thankx dims
> > > [09:41]<dims> Let's keep the site off-line till we release m1. we can
> > > announce the site url with the m1 announcement.
> > > [09:41]<farhaan> is that a permanent location for the axis2 site ?
> > > [09:41]<dims> it's the same apache server instance service both :)
> > > [09:42]<Chinthaka___> farhaan, it has the om images I requested
> > > [09:42]<dims> farhaan: no these are the images
> > > [09:42]<dims> Chinthaka: can you please make a copy before i lose it
again
> > > :)
> > > [09:42]  *** chathura quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
host)
> > > [09:43]<Chinthaka___> already done :)
> > > [09:44]<Chinthaka___> so dims, then lets keep the axis 2 site, where
> > > it is now and host it when we release M1
> > > [09:45]<Chinthaka___> so shall we try to make those docs available by
> > > next week ?
> > > [09:45]<Chinthaka___> and till then others can review
> > > [09:45]<Chinthaka___> DIms, what are the docs we require ?
> > > [09:46]<Chinthaka___> we are preparing archi guide and user's guide
> > > which includes installation guide and samples
> > > [09:47]  *** Chinthaka__ quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
> > host)
> > > [09:48]  *** Jaliya_ quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
host)
> > > [09:48]<farhaan> dims:so i guess you would allocate some space for the
> > > site atleast before the 10th , if we are to make the release on the
> > > 12th
> > > [09:48]<dims> Chintaka: sounds good.
> > > [09:48]<dims> farhaan: consider it already allocated :)
> > > [09:48]  *** chathurah quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
host)
> > > [09:49]<farhaan> dims: okay :) we are well on course then
> > > [09:49]<farhaan> by the way
> > > [09:50]<farhaan> do you foresee any problems with a M1 release on the
> > 12th,
> > > [09:52]<dims> am yet to review code etc...
> > > [09:52]<dims> need a few days (maybe weekend)
> > > [09:52]<dims> do we know who's our competition?
> > > [09:54]<Jaliya__> sistinet?
> > > [09:54]<Chinthaka> ActiveSOAP
> > > [09:54]<Jaliya__> sorry, systinet?
> > > [09:54]<Chinthaka> and Sanjiva was referring to some more
> > > [09:55]  *** Deepal quit FreeNode : "Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster,
> > > Easier. http://miranda-im.org"
> > > [10:01]<farhaan> sanjiva was very particular on getting people like
> > > loghan (i think that was the name) who is implementing his own engine
> > > interested in this and hence the need to produce something fast
> > > [10:02]  *** Chinthaka___ quit FreeNode : "Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla
> > > rv:1.7.5/20041107]"
> > > [10:03]<Chinthaka> seems like time is up
> > > [10:03]<Chinthaka> can some one please post the log
> > > [10:04]<Chinthaka> as I don't have the whole thing
> > > [10:04]<Jaliya__> Bye All
> > > [10:04]  *** Jaliya__ quit FreeNode : "Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla
> > > rv:1.7.5/20041107]"
> > > [10:06]<farhaan> I know this was not too productive, but let's discuss
> > > the M1 stuff in detail over the mailing list, bye now
> > > [10:06]  *** farhaan left #apache-axis :
> > > [10:08]<chathura_> can somone post the chat(ppl at sliit havent got
> > > the complete chat)
> > > [10:10]  *** lilantha left #apache-axis :
> > > [10:11]  *** chathura_ left #apache-axis :
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ajith Ranabahu
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005

[Srinath Perera <he...@gmail.com>]

+1, for M1 at the Feb 12


On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:15:20 +0600, Sanjiva Weerawarana
<sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> +1 for going ahead with an M1 on Feb. 12th.
> 
> Sanjiva.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Farhaan Mohideen" <fa...@opensource.lk>
> To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:25 PM
> 
> Subject: RE: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
> 
> > Hi All
> >
> > Before Sri Lanka was affected by the tsunami we were well on course for a
> > milestone release in the first week of January with only the documentation
> > outstanding. I think during that period Alek, Dims and Glen said that they
> > would have a look at the code out under prototype 1.
> >
> > Now the team is back on track with Axis after working on the various
> Sahana
> > applications. We would like to proceed with the milestone release and
> would
> > appreciate some feedback from everyone whose been contributing to the
> > project. How does the 12th of Feb sound ? Since our first meeting in
> August,
> > counting the days it would show that we have spent almost 5 months to get
> > this far. Without holding back further I suggest we push forward and get
> > something out.
> >
> > Srinath you were voted in as the Release Manager, could you send a draft
> of
> > the release plan so that all can comment.
> >
> > Farhaan
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ajith Ranabahu [mailto:ajith.ranabahu@gmail.com]
> > Sent: 27 January 2005 10:48
> > To: Axis developer list
> > Subject: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
> >
> > The topic of todays chat was the upcoming M1. There were some concerns
> > about the site as well.
> >
> > [08:58]  ***  Apache Axis - SOAP WSDL WSDD
> > [08:59]  *** Jaliya joined #apache-axis
> > [08:59]  *** Chinthaka_ joined #apache-axis
> > [08:59]  *** Chinthaka left #apache-axis :
> > [09:02]  *** Deepal joined #apache-axis
> > [09:03]<Ajith> Hi all
> > [09:04]<Jaliya> Hi All
> > [09:04]<Deepal> Hi all
> > [09:05]  *** farhaan joined #apache-axis
> > [09:05]<farhaan> Hi All
> > [09:07]  *** farhaan sets topic for #apache-axis : Apache Axis -
> > Milestone Release
> > [09:08]<Chinthaka_> hi all
> > [09:09]<Ajith> Hey where are all the others
> > [09:09]<Ajith> ?
> > [09:10]<farhaan> is this too early/late to start ?
> > [09:10]<Chinthaka_> tsunami for all others ;)
> > [09:10]<Jaliya> It is already 9.10 am here
> > [09:12]  *** lilantha joined #apache-axis
> > [09:14]<Chinthaka_> well shall we start talking about M1 ?
> > [09:14]<Deepal> good idea
> > [09:15]<Chinthaka_> anyway, any plans for the date of release ?
> > [09:16]  *** chathura joined #apache-axis
> > [09:16]<Chinthaka_> I think its some where around 12 or 15
> > [09:16]<Chinthaka_> next month
> > [09:17]<farhaan> yes we should be okay with 12th Feb
> > [09:17]<farhaan> Let's discuss what is outstanding for the release
> > [09:17]<Ajith> BTW guys what has happend to glen and all ?
> > [09:18]<Deepal> We have completed coding stuff for M1
> > [09:18]<farhaan> as far as i know before the tsunami we were in very
> > good shape where the functionality was concerned and it was the
> > documentation that was missing
> > [09:18]<Deepal> and only documentation has to be done
> > [09:18]<Jaliya> and examples
> > [09:19]<Jaliya> I mean samples + docs
> > [09:19]<Chinthaka_> well I myself and Chathura started with samples
> > [09:19]<Deepal> yep
> > [09:19]<farhaan> so can we first get concurrence from all on the
> > features for M1 as a reminder atleast
> > [09:19]<Chinthaka_> and the user's guide
> > [09:19]<Deepal> and I stared archi guide
> > [09:22]<Ajith> myswlf and srinath did some perf tests
> > [09:22]<Ajith> and fixed some bugs as well
> > [09:22]<Chinthaka_> great
> > [09:23]  *** Deepal quit FreeNode : Read error: 54 (Connection reset by
> > peer)
> > [09:24]  *** Chinthaka__ joined #apache-axis
> > [09:24]<Chinthaka__> hello
> > [09:24]  *** Jaliya_ joined #apache-axis
> > [09:24]<Chinthaka__> helllooooooooooooo
> > [09:25]<Ajith> yeah
> > [09:25]<Chinthaka__> oki, i was disconnected
> > [09:25]<dims> Ajith: do we have some DOM wrapper stuff already?
> > [09:25]<Chinthaka__> nop
> > [09:25]<Ajith> nope
> > [09:25]<Chinthaka__> I don't think its required now
> > [09:25]<Ajith> not yet
> > [09:26]<dims> ok. just curious.
> > [09:26]<Chinthaka__> I started that sometime back
> > [09:26]<Chinthaka__> but stopped for the time being
> > [09:26]<Ajith> dims : god thing that you are here
> > [09:26]<Ajith> :)
> > [09:26]<dims> may not be here for long :(
> > [09:27]<dims> i got the omdiagrams from ashu...
> > [09:27]<Chinthaka__> ok
> > [09:27]<Chinthaka__> I saw the mails
> > [09:27]  *** chathurah joined #apache-axis
> > [09:28]<Chinthaka__> well Dims, I want them to put in some OM docs
> > [09:28]<dims> hang on
> > [09:28]  *** Deepal joined #apache-axis
> > [09:29]  *** Chinthaka___ joined #apache-axis
> > [09:29]  *** Chinthaka joined #apache-axis
> > [09:30]<Chinthaka___> helllo we have some connection problems here
> > [09:30]  *** Jaliya__ joined #apache-axis
> > [09:30]<Deepal> ADSL ?
> > [09:31]<Chinthaka___> yeah
> > [09:32]<Chinthaka___> well, can all of you please review the site
> > [09:32]  *** Chinthaka_ quit FreeNode : Read error: 60 (Operation timed
> out)
> > [09:32]  *** Jaliya quit FreeNode : Operation timed out
> > [09:32]<Chinthaka___> and lets put the documents also there
> > [09:32]<Chinthaka___> so that we have a site by the time we release M1
> > [09:33]  *** chathura_ joined #apache-axis
> > [09:33]<Ajith> hey you guys having difficulty with the connection ?
> > [09:33]<Jaliya__> may be the software
> > [09:33]<chathura_> not the conection i suppose
> > [09:36]<farhaan> inorder to have the site up and running shouldn't the
> > project be allocated some space on the server ?
> > [09:36]<Chinthaka> yes, I think
> > [09:37]<Chinthaka> well, Dims what do u think abt this ?
> > [09:37]<Jaliya__> I think we are getting the space from the CVS
> > [09:37]<Jaliya__> I mean under ws-site
> > [09:39]<Chinthaka> the site is being currently hosted in my poor
> > apache account :(
> > [09:40]<dims> http://ws.apache.org/~dims/axis2/
> > [09:41]<Chinthaka___> thankx dims
> > [09:41]<dims> Let's keep the site off-line till we release m1. we can
> > announce the site url with the m1 announcement.
> > [09:41]<farhaan> is that a permanent location for the axis2 site ?
> > [09:41]<dims> it's the same apache server instance service both :)
> > [09:42]<Chinthaka___> farhaan, it has the om images I requested
> > [09:42]<dims> farhaan: no these are the images
> > [09:42]<dims> Chinthaka: can you please make a copy before i lose it again
> > :)
> > [09:42]  *** chathura quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to host)
> > [09:43]<Chinthaka___> already done :)
> > [09:44]<Chinthaka___> so dims, then lets keep the axis 2 site, where
> > it is now and host it when we release M1
> > [09:45]<Chinthaka___> so shall we try to make those docs available by
> > next week ?
> > [09:45]<Chinthaka___> and till then others can review
> > [09:45]<Chinthaka___> DIms, what are the docs we require ?
> > [09:46]<Chinthaka___> we are preparing archi guide and user's guide
> > which includes installation guide and samples
> > [09:47]  *** Chinthaka__ quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to
> host)
> > [09:48]  *** Jaliya_ quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to host)
> > [09:48]<farhaan> dims:so i guess you would allocate some space for the
> > site atleast before the 10th , if we are to make the release on the
> > 12th
> > [09:48]<dims> Chintaka: sounds good.
> > [09:48]<dims> farhaan: consider it already allocated :)
> > [09:48]  *** chathurah quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to host)
> > [09:49]<farhaan> dims: okay :) we are well on course then
> > [09:49]<farhaan> by the way
> > [09:50]<farhaan> do you foresee any problems with a M1 release on the
> 12th,
> > [09:52]<dims> am yet to review code etc...
> > [09:52]<dims> need a few days (maybe weekend)
> > [09:52]<dims> do we know who's our competition?
> > [09:54]<Jaliya__> sistinet?
> > [09:54]<Chinthaka> ActiveSOAP
> > [09:54]<Jaliya__> sorry, systinet?
> > [09:54]<Chinthaka> and Sanjiva was referring to some more
> > [09:55]  *** Deepal quit FreeNode : "Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster,
> > Easier. http://miranda-im.org"
> > [10:01]<farhaan> sanjiva was very particular on getting people like
> > loghan (i think that was the name) who is implementing his own engine
> > interested in this and hence the need to produce something fast
> > [10:02]  *** Chinthaka___ quit FreeNode : "Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla
> > rv:1.7.5/20041107]"
> > [10:03]<Chinthaka> seems like time is up
> > [10:03]<Chinthaka> can some one please post the log
> > [10:04]<Chinthaka> as I don't have the whole thing
> > [10:04]<Jaliya__> Bye All
> > [10:04]  *** Jaliya__ quit FreeNode : "Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla
> > rv:1.7.5/20041107]"
> > [10:06]<farhaan> I know this was not too productive, but let's discuss
> > the M1 stuff in detail over the mailing list, bye now
> > [10:06]  *** farhaan left #apache-axis :
> > [10:08]<chathura_> can somone post the chat(ppl at sliit havent got
> > the complete chat)
> > [10:10]  *** lilantha left #apache-axis :
> > [10:11]  *** chathura_ left #apache-axis :
> >
> > --
> > Ajith Ranabahu
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
>

Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005

[Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>]

+1 for going ahead with an M1 on Feb. 12th.

Sanjiva.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Farhaan Mohideen" <fa...@opensource.lk>
To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:25 PM
Subject: RE: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005


> Hi All
>
> Before Sri Lanka was affected by the tsunami we were well on course for a
> milestone release in the first week of January with only the documentation
> outstanding. I think during that period Alek, Dims and Glen said that they
> would have a look at the code out under prototype 1.
>
> Now the team is back on track with Axis after working on the various
Sahana
> applications. We would like to proceed with the milestone release and
would
> appreciate some feedback from everyone whose been contributing to the
> project. How does the 12th of Feb sound ? Since our first meeting in
August,
> counting the days it would show that we have spent almost 5 months to get
> this far. Without holding back further I suggest we push forward and get
> something out.
>
> Srinath you were voted in as the Release Manager, could you send a draft
of
> the release plan so that all can comment.
>
> Farhaan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ajith Ranabahu [mailto:ajith.ranabahu@gmail.com]
> Sent: 27 January 2005 10:48
> To: Axis developer list
> Subject: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005
>
> The topic of todays chat was the upcoming M1. There were some concerns
> about the site as well.
>
> [08:58]  ***  Apache Axis - SOAP WSDL WSDD
> [08:59]  *** Jaliya joined #apache-axis
> [08:59]  *** Chinthaka_ joined #apache-axis
> [08:59]  *** Chinthaka left #apache-axis :
> [09:02]  *** Deepal joined #apache-axis
> [09:03]<Ajith> Hi all
> [09:04]<Jaliya> Hi All
> [09:04]<Deepal> Hi all
> [09:05]  *** farhaan joined #apache-axis
> [09:05]<farhaan> Hi All
> [09:07]  *** farhaan sets topic for #apache-axis : Apache Axis -
> Milestone Release
> [09:08]<Chinthaka_> hi all
> [09:09]<Ajith> Hey where are all the others
> [09:09]<Ajith> ?
> [09:10]<farhaan> is this too early/late to start ?
> [09:10]<Chinthaka_> tsunami for all others ;)
> [09:10]<Jaliya> It is already 9.10 am here
> [09:12]  *** lilantha joined #apache-axis
> [09:14]<Chinthaka_> well shall we start talking about M1 ?
> [09:14]<Deepal> good idea
> [09:15]<Chinthaka_> anyway, any plans for the date of release ?
> [09:16]  *** chathura joined #apache-axis
> [09:16]<Chinthaka_> I think its some where around 12 or 15
> [09:16]<Chinthaka_> next month
> [09:17]<farhaan> yes we should be okay with 12th Feb
> [09:17]<farhaan> Let's discuss what is outstanding for the release
> [09:17]<Ajith> BTW guys what has happend to glen and all ?
> [09:18]<Deepal> We have completed coding stuff for M1
> [09:18]<farhaan> as far as i know before the tsunami we were in very
> good shape where the functionality was concerned and it was the
> documentation that was missing
> [09:18]<Deepal> and only documentation has to be done
> [09:18]<Jaliya> and examples
> [09:19]<Jaliya> I mean samples + docs
> [09:19]<Chinthaka_> well I myself and Chathura started with samples
> [09:19]<Deepal> yep
> [09:19]<farhaan> so can we first get concurrence from all on the
> features for M1 as a reminder atleast
> [09:19]<Chinthaka_> and the user's guide
> [09:19]<Deepal> and I stared archi guide
> [09:22]<Ajith> myswlf and srinath did some perf tests
> [09:22]<Ajith> and fixed some bugs as well
> [09:22]<Chinthaka_> great
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> [09:24]<Chinthaka__> hello
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> [09:24]<Chinthaka__> helllooooooooooooo
> [09:25]<Ajith> yeah
> [09:25]<Chinthaka__> oki, i was disconnected
> [09:25]<dims> Ajith: do we have some DOM wrapper stuff already?
> [09:25]<Chinthaka__> nop
> [09:25]<Ajith> nope
> [09:25]<Chinthaka__> I don't think its required now
> [09:25]<Ajith> not yet
> [09:26]<dims> ok. just curious.
> [09:26]<Chinthaka__> I started that sometime back
> [09:26]<Chinthaka__> but stopped for the time being
> [09:26]<Ajith> dims : god thing that you are here
> [09:26]<Ajith> :)
> [09:26]<dims> may not be here for long :(
> [09:27]<dims> i got the omdiagrams from ashu...
> [09:27]<Chinthaka__> ok
> [09:27]<Chinthaka__> I saw the mails
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> [09:28]<Chinthaka__> well Dims, I want them to put in some OM docs
> [09:28]<dims> hang on
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> [09:30]<Chinthaka___> helllo we have some connection problems here
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> [09:30]<Deepal> ADSL ?
> [09:31]<Chinthaka___> yeah
> [09:32]<Chinthaka___> well, can all of you please review the site
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> [09:32]<Chinthaka___> and lets put the documents also there
> [09:32]<Chinthaka___> so that we have a site by the time we release M1
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> [09:33]<Ajith> hey you guys having difficulty with the connection ?
> [09:33]<Jaliya__> may be the software
> [09:33]<chathura_> not the conection i suppose
> [09:36]<farhaan> inorder to have the site up and running shouldn't the
> project be allocated some space on the server ?
> [09:36]<Chinthaka> yes, I think
> [09:37]<Chinthaka> well, Dims what do u think abt this ?
> [09:37]<Jaliya__> I think we are getting the space from the CVS
> [09:37]<Jaliya__> I mean under ws-site
> [09:39]<Chinthaka> the site is being currently hosted in my poor
> apache account :(
> [09:40]<dims> http://ws.apache.org/~dims/axis2/
> [09:41]<Chinthaka___> thankx dims
> [09:41]<dims> Let's keep the site off-line till we release m1. we can
> announce the site url with the m1 announcement.
> [09:41]<farhaan> is that a permanent location for the axis2 site ?
> [09:41]<dims> it's the same apache server instance service both :)
> [09:42]<Chinthaka___> farhaan, it has the om images I requested
> [09:42]<dims> farhaan: no these are the images
> [09:42]<dims> Chinthaka: can you please make a copy before i lose it again
> :)
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> [09:43]<Chinthaka___> already done :)
> [09:44]<Chinthaka___> so dims, then lets keep the axis 2 site, where
> it is now and host it when we release M1
> [09:45]<Chinthaka___> so shall we try to make those docs available by
> next week ?
> [09:45]<Chinthaka___> and till then others can review
> [09:45]<Chinthaka___> DIms, what are the docs we require ?
> [09:46]<Chinthaka___> we are preparing archi guide and user's guide
> which includes installation guide and samples
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> [09:48]<farhaan> dims:so i guess you would allocate some space for the
> site atleast before the 10th , if we are to make the release on the
> 12th
> [09:48]<dims> Chintaka: sounds good.
> [09:48]<dims> farhaan: consider it already allocated :)
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> [09:49]<farhaan> dims: okay :) we are well on course then
> [09:49]<farhaan> by the way
> [09:50]<farhaan> do you foresee any problems with a M1 release on the
12th,
> [09:52]<dims> am yet to review code etc...
> [09:52]<dims> need a few days (maybe weekend)
> [09:52]<dims> do we know who's our competition?
> [09:54]<Jaliya__> sistinet?
> [09:54]<Chinthaka> ActiveSOAP
> [09:54]<Jaliya__> sorry, systinet?
> [09:54]<Chinthaka> and Sanjiva was referring to some more
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> Easier. http://miranda-im.org"
> [10:01]<farhaan> sanjiva was very particular on getting people like
> loghan (i think that was the name) who is implementing his own engine
> interested in this and hence the need to produce something fast
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> rv:1.7.5/20041107]"
> [10:03]<Chinthaka> seems like time is up
> [10:03]<Chinthaka> can some one please post the log
> [10:04]<Chinthaka> as I don't have the whole thing
> [10:04]<Jaliya__> Bye All
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> rv:1.7.5/20041107]"
> [10:06]<farhaan> I know this was not too productive, but let's discuss
> the M1 stuff in detail over the mailing list, bye now
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> [10:08]<chathura_> can somone post the chat(ppl at sliit havent got
> the complete chat)
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>
> -- 
> Ajith Ranabahu
>
>
>
>

RE: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005

[Farhaan Mohideen <fa...@opensource.lk>]

Hi All

Before Sri Lanka was affected by the tsunami we were well on course for a
milestone release in the first week of January with only the documentation
outstanding. I think during that period Alek, Dims and Glen said that they
would have a look at the code out under prototype 1.  

Now the team is back on track with Axis after working on the various Sahana
applications. We would like to proceed with the milestone release and would
appreciate some feedback from everyone whose been contributing to the
project. How does the 12th of Feb sound ? Since our first meeting in August,
counting the days it would show that we have spent almost 5 months to get
this far. Without holding back further I suggest we push forward and get
something out. 

Srinath you were voted in as the Release Manager, could you send a draft of
the release plan so that all can comment.

Farhaan 

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Ajith Ranabahu [mailto:ajith.ranabahu@gmail.com] 
Sent: 27 January 2005 10:48
To: Axis developer list
Subject: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005

The topic of todays chat was the upcoming M1. There were some concerns
about the site as well.

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[09:03]<Ajith> Hi all
[09:04]<Jaliya> Hi All
[09:04]<Deepal> Hi all
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[09:05]<farhaan> Hi All
[09:07]  *** farhaan sets topic for #apache-axis : Apache Axis -
Milestone Release
[09:08]<Chinthaka_> hi all
[09:09]<Ajith> Hey where are all the others
[09:09]<Ajith> ?
[09:10]<farhaan> is this too early/late to start ? 
[09:10]<Chinthaka_> tsunami for all others ;)
[09:10]<Jaliya> It is already 9.10 am here
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[09:14]<Chinthaka_> well shall we start talking about M1 ?
[09:14]<Deepal> good idea
[09:15]<Chinthaka_> anyway, any plans for the date of release ?
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[09:16]<Chinthaka_> I think its some where around 12 or 15
[09:16]<Chinthaka_> next month
[09:17]<farhaan> yes we should be okay with 12th Feb 
[09:17]<farhaan> Let's discuss what is outstanding for the release
[09:17]<Ajith> BTW guys what has happend to glen and all ?
[09:18]<Deepal> We have completed coding stuff for M1
[09:18]<farhaan> as far as i know before the tsunami we were in very
good shape where the functionality was concerned and it was the
documentation that was missing
[09:18]<Deepal> and only documentation has to be done
[09:18]<Jaliya> and examples
[09:19]<Jaliya> I mean samples + docs
[09:19]<Chinthaka_> well I myself and Chathura started with samples
[09:19]<Deepal> yep
[09:19]<farhaan> so can we first get concurrence from all on the
features for M1 as a reminder atleast
[09:19]<Chinthaka_> and the user's guide
[09:19]<Deepal> and I stared archi guide
[09:22]<Ajith> myswlf and srinath did some perf tests
[09:22]<Ajith> and fixed some bugs as well
[09:22]<Chinthaka_> great
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[09:24]<Chinthaka__> hello
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[09:24]<Chinthaka__> helllooooooooooooo
[09:25]<Ajith> yeah
[09:25]<Chinthaka__> oki, i was disconnected
[09:25]<dims> Ajith: do we have some DOM wrapper stuff already?
[09:25]<Chinthaka__> nop
[09:25]<Ajith> nope
[09:25]<Chinthaka__> I don't think its required now
[09:25]<Ajith> not yet
[09:26]<dims> ok. just curious.
[09:26]<Chinthaka__> I started that sometime back
[09:26]<Chinthaka__> but stopped for the time being
[09:26]<Ajith> dims : god thing that you are here
[09:26]<Ajith> :)
[09:26]<dims> may not be here for long :(
[09:27]<dims> i got the omdiagrams from ashu...
[09:27]<Chinthaka__> ok
[09:27]<Chinthaka__> I saw the mails
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[09:28]<Chinthaka__> well Dims, I want them to put in some OM docs
[09:28]<dims> hang on
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[09:30]<Chinthaka___> helllo we have some connection problems here
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[09:30]<Deepal> ADSL ?
[09:31]<Chinthaka___> yeah
[09:32]<Chinthaka___> well, can all of you please review the site
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[09:32]<Chinthaka___> and lets put the documents also there
[09:32]<Chinthaka___> so that we have a site by the time we release M1
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[09:33]<Ajith> hey you guys having difficulty with the connection ?
[09:33]<Jaliya__> may be the software
[09:33]<chathura_> not the conection i suppose
[09:36]<farhaan> inorder to have the site up and running shouldn't the
project be allocated some space on the server ?
[09:36]<Chinthaka> yes, I think
[09:37]<Chinthaka> well, Dims what do u think abt this ?
[09:37]<Jaliya__> I think we are getting the space from the CVS
[09:37]<Jaliya__> I mean under ws-site
[09:39]<Chinthaka> the site is being currently hosted in my poor
apache account :(
[09:40]<dims> http://ws.apache.org/~dims/axis2/
[09:41]<Chinthaka___> thankx dims
[09:41]<dims> Let's keep the site off-line till we release m1. we can
announce the site url with the m1 announcement.
[09:41]<farhaan> is that a permanent location for the axis2 site ?
[09:41]<dims> it's the same apache server instance service both :)
[09:42]<Chinthaka___> farhaan, it has the om images I requested
[09:42]<dims> farhaan: no these are the images
[09:42]<dims> Chinthaka: can you please make a copy before i lose it again
:)
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[09:43]<Chinthaka___> already done :)
[09:44]<Chinthaka___> so dims, then lets keep the axis 2 site, where
it is now and host it when we release M1
[09:45]<Chinthaka___> so shall we try to make those docs available by
next week ?
[09:45]<Chinthaka___> and till then others can review
[09:45]<Chinthaka___> DIms, what are the docs we require ?
[09:46]<Chinthaka___> we are preparing archi guide and user's guide
which includes installation guide and samples
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[09:48]<farhaan> dims:so i guess you would allocate some space for the
site atleast before the 10th , if we are to make the release on the
12th
[09:48]<dims> Chintaka: sounds good.
[09:48]<dims> farhaan: consider it already allocated :)
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[09:49]<farhaan> dims: okay :) we are well on course then
[09:49]<farhaan> by the way 
[09:50]<farhaan> do you foresee any problems with a M1 release on the 12th, 
[09:52]<dims> am yet to review code etc...
[09:52]<dims> need a few days (maybe weekend) 
[09:52]<dims> do we know who's our competition?
[09:54]<Jaliya__> sistinet?
[09:54]<Chinthaka> ActiveSOAP
[09:54]<Jaliya__> sorry, systinet?
[09:54]<Chinthaka> and Sanjiva was referring to some more
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Easier. http://miranda-im.org"
[10:01]<farhaan> sanjiva was very particular on getting people like
loghan (i think that was the name) who is implementing his own engine
interested in this and hence the need to produce something fast
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rv:1.7.5/20041107]"
[10:03]<Chinthaka> seems like time is up
[10:03]<Chinthaka> can some one please post the log
[10:04]<Chinthaka> as I don't have the whole thing
[10:04]<Jaliya__> Bye All
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rv:1.7.5/20041107]"
[10:06]<farhaan> I know this was not too productive, but let's discuss
the M1 stuff in detail over the mailing list, bye now
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[10:08]<chathura_> can somone post the chat(ppl at sliit havent got
the complete chat)
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-- 
Ajith Ranabahu