RE: Case Sensitivity in URLs (was RE: BugRat Report #92 was close d(apparently by: Craig R.)

[Nick Bauman <ni...@cortexity.com>]

On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, Peter V. Gadjokov wrote:

> Why do we keep referring to this as a Windows or IIS 'problem' or even
> 'subtle lock-in'? I'm not a big fan of Windows or many MS products
> myself but I think portraying this as an MS problem is inaccurate. The
> whole thing is largely a consequence of case-insensitive comparison in
> filenames and paths under Windows. Case is preserved but not used to
> distinguish one path from another. This is a _different_ design

Your USENIX quote is fantastic! It shows how a reality-distortion-field
can project from an actual seemingly-innocuous paper! Case-insensitivity
in a filesystem is a HACK. Will always be a HACK and only compounds the
useablility problems it tries to solve. It is also a "different design
decision" too. So it looks nice on a bulleted marketing prospectus.

Many times in the design of generic frameworks and libraries, descisions
have to be made to accommodate architectures that tend to "deviate from
the norm". Upon closer examination, turns out they deviate because the are
crappy and ill-conceived. There are many such examples through the history
of computing. This is one of them.

Re: Case Sensitivity in URLs (was RE: BugRat Report #92 was close d(apparently by: Craig R.)

[Nick Bauman <ni...@cortexity.com>]

Oh alright, but it isn't meant to be personal. It's the idea that's
important. And if we aren't passionate about ideas, what are we passionate
about?

On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Geoff Soutter wrote:

> Hey Nick,
> 
> Turn down the flame level please. I felt I was getting toasted just reading
> this message ;-)
> 
> cheers
> 
> Geoff
> 
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> From: "Nick Bauman" <ni...@cortexity.com>
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> Subject: RE: Case Sensitivity in URLs (was RE: BugRat Report #92 was close
> d(apparently by: Craig R.)
> 
> 
> > On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, Peter V. Gadjokov wrote:
> >
> > > Why do we keep referring to this as a Windows or IIS 'problem' or even
> > > 'subtle lock-in'? I'm not a big fan of Windows or many MS products
> > > myself but I think portraying this as an MS problem is inaccurate. The
> > > whole thing is largely a consequence of case-insensitive comparison in
> > > filenames and paths under Windows. Case is preserved but not used to
> > > distinguish one path from another. This is a _different_ design
> >
> > Your USENIX quote is fantastic! It shows how a reality-distortion-field
> > can project from an actual seemingly-innocuous paper! Case-insensitivity
> > in a filesystem is a HACK. Will always be a HACK and only compounds the
> > useablility problems it tries to solve. It is also a "different design
> > decision" too. So it looks nice on a bulleted marketing prospectus.
> >
> > Many times in the design of generic frameworks and libraries, descisions
> > have to be made to accommodate architectures that tend to "deviate from
> > the norm". Upon closer examination, turns out they deviate because the are
> > crappy and ill-conceived. There are many such examples through the history
> > of computing. This is one of them.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Case Sensitivity in URLs (was RE: BugRat Report #92 was close d(apparently by: Craig R.)

[Geoff Soutter <ge...@whitewolf.com.au>]

Hey Nick,

Turn down the flame level please. I felt I was getting toasted just reading
this message ;-)

cheers

Geoff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nick Bauman" <ni...@cortexity.com>
To: <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 11:25 AM
Subject: RE: Case Sensitivity in URLs (was RE: BugRat Report #92 was close
d(apparently by: Craig R.)


> On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, Peter V. Gadjokov wrote:
>
> > Why do we keep referring to this as a Windows or IIS 'problem' or even
> > 'subtle lock-in'? I'm not a big fan of Windows or many MS products
> > myself but I think portraying this as an MS problem is inaccurate. The
> > whole thing is largely a consequence of case-insensitive comparison in
> > filenames and paths under Windows. Case is preserved but not used to
> > distinguish one path from another. This is a _different_ design
>
> Your USENIX quote is fantastic! It shows how a reality-distortion-field
> can project from an actual seemingly-innocuous paper! Case-insensitivity
> in a filesystem is a HACK. Will always be a HACK and only compounds the
> useablility problems it tries to solve. It is also a "different design
> decision" too. So it looks nice on a bulleted marketing prospectus.
>
> Many times in the design of generic frameworks and libraries, descisions
> have to be made to accommodate architectures that tend to "deviate from
> the norm". Upon closer examination, turns out they deviate because the are
> crappy and ill-conceived. There are many such examples through the history
> of computing. This is one of them.
>
>
>
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