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Posted to dev@openjpa.apache.org by Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com> on 2007/03/26 20:54:37 UTC

0.9.7 release

Hi guys,

We've started preparing an incubator release for ODE and we're now using
OpenJPA (pretty happily I should say). We can't use 0.9.6 as we need a
couple of fixes from 0.9.7 so we've been using the snapshot so far. But as
you know we won't be able to release with it (and generally speaking
depending on snapshots is not that nice).

So we were just wondering if you had any time frame so far for 0.9.7 final.
I've seen that you started discussing future plans so maybe 0.9.7 should
happen soon enough?

Thanks,
Matthieu

Re: 0.9.7 release

Posted by Kevin Sutter <kw...@gmail.com>.
Fair enough.  Cutting a candidate release would be a good way to provide the
"deadline".  This would allow any in-flight Issues to be resolved before we
make this 0.9.7 final.

Kevin

On 3/27/07, Craig L Russell <Cr...@sun.com> wrote:
>
> I hate to bring this up, but it takes more than a day or two to cut a
> release and have it approved. Take a look at the 0.9.6 release.
> Granted, we're smarter than that now, but it still takes some time.
>
> Let's say we built a candidate release right now. You want to give
> the community a chance to find issues with it or to complain that bug
> xyz hasn't been fixed or that they found a regression. It might take
> a few days to get the feedback and then all weekend to come up with a
> new candidate. Then, you need to ask the Incubator for permission to
> release, which takes a minimum of 3 days (72 hours). You're now into
> the middle of next week. If the incubator folks find anything, it's
> another spin of the wheel.
>
> Craig
>
> On Mar 27, 2007, at 2:09 PM, Kevin Sutter wrote:
>
> > Patrick,
> > I tend to agree.  Just to give us a little bit of time to wrap up a
> > couple
> > of fixes for pending Issues, how about if we set Thursday or Friday
> > as the
> > deadline for the 0.9.7 release?
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > On 3/27/07, Patrick Linskey <pl...@bea.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I don't think that any of the pending 0.9.7 issues are
> >> showstoppers; if
> >> we want to create a 0.9.7 release ASAP, I'd be content with all of
> >> the
> >> 0.9.7 issues being moved out to 0.9.8.
> >>
> >> -Patrick
> >>
> >> --
> >> Patrick Linskey
> >> BEA Systems, Inc.
> >>
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> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Marc Prud'hommeaux [mailto:mprudhomapache@gmail.com] On
> >> > Behalf Of Marc Prud'hommeaux
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 11:39 AM
> >> > To: open-jpa-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >> > Subject: Re: 0.9.7 release
> >> >
> >> > Matthieu-
> >> >
> >> > I don't think we have any date estimates yet. Craig was going to
> >> put
> >> > together the beginnings of a roadmap summary that should be useful
> >> > for this.
> >> >
> >> > Looking at the JIRA roadmap for OpenJPA (http://issues.apache.org/
> >> > jira/browse/OPENJPA?
> >> > report=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project:roadmap-panel), we
> >> > have a pretty ambition list of fixes for 0.9.7. If your ODE release
> >> > is being blocked, I wonder if it would make sense to bump
> >> everything
> >> > up a release (0.9.7 issues go to 0.9.8, and 0.9.8 goes to 0.9.9)
> >> and
> >> > cut a release sooner rather than later.
> >> >
> >> > Thoughts anyone?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mar 26, 2007, at 11:54 AM, Matthieu Riou wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi guys,
> >> > >
> >> > > We've started preparing an incubator release for ODE and we're
> >> now
> >> > > using
> >> > > OpenJPA (pretty happily I should say). We can't use 0.9.6
> >> > as we need a
> >> > > couple of fixes from 0.9.7 so we've been using the snapshot
> >> > so far.
> >> > > But as
> >> > > you know we won't be able to release with it (and generally
> >> speaking
> >> > > depending on snapshots is not that nice).
> >> > >
> >> > > So we were just wondering if you had any time frame so far for
> >> > > 0.9.7 final.
> >> > > I've seen that you started discussing future plans so maybe 0.9.7
> >> > > should
> >> > > happen soon enough?
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks,
> >> > > Matthieu
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
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> Craig Russell
> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>
>
>

Re: 0.9.7 release

Posted by Craig L Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM>.
I hate to bring this up, but it takes more than a day or two to cut a  
release and have it approved. Take a look at the 0.9.6 release.  
Granted, we're smarter than that now, but it still takes some time.

Let's say we built a candidate release right now. You want to give  
the community a chance to find issues with it or to complain that bug  
xyz hasn't been fixed or that they found a regression. It might take  
a few days to get the feedback and then all weekend to come up with a  
new candidate. Then, you need to ask the Incubator for permission to  
release, which takes a minimum of 3 days (72 hours). You're now into  
the middle of next week. If the incubator folks find anything, it's  
another spin of the wheel.

Craig

On Mar 27, 2007, at 2:09 PM, Kevin Sutter wrote:

> Patrick,
> I tend to agree.  Just to give us a little bit of time to wrap up a  
> couple
> of fixes for pending Issues, how about if we set Thursday or Friday  
> as the
> deadline for the 0.9.7 release?
>
> Kevin
>
> On 3/27/07, Patrick Linskey <pl...@bea.com> wrote:
>>
>> I don't think that any of the pending 0.9.7 issues are  
>> showstoppers; if
>> we want to create a 0.9.7 release ASAP, I'd be content with all of  
>> the
>> 0.9.7 issues being moved out to 0.9.8.
>>
>> -Patrick
>>
>> --
>> Patrick Linskey
>> BEA Systems, Inc.
>>
>> _____________________________________________________________________ 
>> __
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>> contain
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>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Marc Prud'hommeaux [mailto:mprudhomapache@gmail.com] On
>> > Behalf Of Marc Prud'hommeaux
>> > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 11:39 AM
>> > To: open-jpa-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> > Subject: Re: 0.9.7 release
>> >
>> > Matthieu-
>> >
>> > I don't think we have any date estimates yet. Craig was going to  
>> put
>> > together the beginnings of a roadmap summary that should be useful
>> > for this.
>> >
>> > Looking at the JIRA roadmap for OpenJPA (http://issues.apache.org/
>> > jira/browse/OPENJPA?
>> > report=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project:roadmap-panel), we
>> > have a pretty ambition list of fixes for 0.9.7. If your ODE release
>> > is being blocked, I wonder if it would make sense to bump  
>> everything
>> > up a release (0.9.7 issues go to 0.9.8, and 0.9.8 goes to 0.9.9)  
>> and
>> > cut a release sooner rather than later.
>> >
>> > Thoughts anyone?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mar 26, 2007, at 11:54 AM, Matthieu Riou wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi guys,
>> > >
>> > > We've started preparing an incubator release for ODE and we're  
>> now
>> > > using
>> > > OpenJPA (pretty happily I should say). We can't use 0.9.6
>> > as we need a
>> > > couple of fixes from 0.9.7 so we've been using the snapshot
>> > so far.
>> > > But as
>> > > you know we won't be able to release with it (and generally  
>> speaking
>> > > depending on snapshots is not that nice).
>> > >
>> > > So we were just wondering if you had any time frame so far for
>> > > 0.9.7 final.
>> > > I've seen that you started discussing future plans so maybe 0.9.7
>> > > should
>> > > happen soon enough?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > Matthieu
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Notice:  This email message, together with any attachments, may  
>> contain
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Craig Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!


RE: 0.9.7 release

Posted by Patrick Linskey <pl...@bea.com>.
Sounds great, especially since I'll be off skiing from Thursday to
Sunday or Monday.

-Patrick

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BEA Systems, Inc. 

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Sutter [mailto:kwsutter@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 2:09 PM
> To: open-jpa-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: 0.9.7 release
> 
> Patrick,
> I tend to agree.  Just to give us a little bit of time to 
> wrap up a couple
> of fixes for pending Issues, how about if we set Thursday or 
> Friday as the
> deadline for the 0.9.7 release?
> 
> Kevin
> 
> On 3/27/07, Patrick Linskey <pl...@bea.com> wrote:
> >
> > I don't think that any of the pending 0.9.7 issues are 
> showstoppers; if
> > we want to create a 0.9.7 release ASAP, I'd be content with 
> all of the
> > 0.9.7 issues being moved out to 0.9.8.
> >
> > -Patrick
> >
> > --
> > Patrick Linskey
> > BEA Systems, Inc.
> >
> > 
> ______________________________________________________________
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> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Marc Prud'hommeaux [mailto:mprudhomapache@gmail.com] On
> > > Behalf Of Marc Prud'hommeaux
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 11:39 AM
> > > To: open-jpa-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: 0.9.7 release
> > >
> > > Matthieu-
> > >
> > > I don't think we have any date estimates yet. Craig was 
> going to put
> > > together the beginnings of a roadmap summary that should be useful
> > > for this.
> > >
> > > Looking at the JIRA roadmap for OpenJPA (http://issues.apache.org/
> > > jira/browse/OPENJPA?
> > > report=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project:roadmap-panel), we
> > > have a pretty ambition list of fixes for 0.9.7. If your 
> ODE release
> > > is being blocked, I wonder if it would make sense to bump 
> everything
> > > up a release (0.9.7 issues go to 0.9.8, and 0.9.8 goes to 
> 0.9.9) and
> > > cut a release sooner rather than later.
> > >
> > > Thoughts anyone?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mar 26, 2007, at 11:54 AM, Matthieu Riou wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi guys,
> > > >
> > > > We've started preparing an incubator release for ODE 
> and we're now
> > > > using
> > > > OpenJPA (pretty happily I should say). We can't use 0.9.6
> > > as we need a
> > > > couple of fixes from 0.9.7 so we've been using the snapshot
> > > so far.
> > > > But as
> > > > you know we won't be able to release with it (and 
> generally speaking
> > > > depending on snapshots is not that nice).
> > > >
> > > > So we were just wondering if you had any time frame so far for
> > > > 0.9.7 final.
> > > > I've seen that you started discussing future plans so 
> maybe 0.9.7
> > > > should
> > > > happen soon enough?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Matthieu
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Notice:  This email message, together with any attachments, 
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Re: 0.9.7 release

Posted by Kevin Sutter <kw...@gmail.com>.
Patrick,
I tend to agree.  Just to give us a little bit of time to wrap up a couple
of fixes for pending Issues, how about if we set Thursday or Friday as the
deadline for the 0.9.7 release?

Kevin

On 3/27/07, Patrick Linskey <pl...@bea.com> wrote:
>
> I don't think that any of the pending 0.9.7 issues are showstoppers; if
> we want to create a 0.9.7 release ASAP, I'd be content with all of the
> 0.9.7 issues being moved out to 0.9.8.
>
> -Patrick
>
> --
> Patrick Linskey
> BEA Systems, Inc.
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
> Notice:  This email message, together with any attachments, may contain
> information  of  BEA Systems,  Inc.,  its subsidiaries  and  affiliated
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> or entity named in this message. If you are not the intended recipient,
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Marc Prud'hommeaux [mailto:mprudhomapache@gmail.com] On
> > Behalf Of Marc Prud'hommeaux
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 11:39 AM
> > To: open-jpa-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: 0.9.7 release
> >
> > Matthieu-
> >
> > I don't think we have any date estimates yet. Craig was going to put
> > together the beginnings of a roadmap summary that should be useful
> > for this.
> >
> > Looking at the JIRA roadmap for OpenJPA (http://issues.apache.org/
> > jira/browse/OPENJPA?
> > report=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project:roadmap-panel), we
> > have a pretty ambition list of fixes for 0.9.7. If your ODE release
> > is being blocked, I wonder if it would make sense to bump everything
> > up a release (0.9.7 issues go to 0.9.8, and 0.9.8 goes to 0.9.9) and
> > cut a release sooner rather than later.
> >
> > Thoughts anyone?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mar 26, 2007, at 11:54 AM, Matthieu Riou wrote:
> >
> > > Hi guys,
> > >
> > > We've started preparing an incubator release for ODE and we're now
> > > using
> > > OpenJPA (pretty happily I should say). We can't use 0.9.6
> > as we need a
> > > couple of fixes from 0.9.7 so we've been using the snapshot
> > so far.
> > > But as
> > > you know we won't be able to release with it (and generally speaking
> > > depending on snapshots is not that nice).
> > >
> > > So we were just wondering if you had any time frame so far for
> > > 0.9.7 final.
> > > I've seen that you started discussing future plans so maybe 0.9.7
> > > should
> > > happen soon enough?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Matthieu
> >
> >
>
> Notice:  This email message, together with any attachments, may contain
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RE: 0.9.7 release

Posted by Patrick Linskey <pl...@bea.com>.
I don't think that any of the pending 0.9.7 issues are showstoppers; if
we want to create a 0.9.7 release ASAP, I'd be content with all of the
0.9.7 issues being moved out to 0.9.8.

-Patrick

-- 
Patrick Linskey
BEA Systems, Inc. 

_______________________________________________________________________
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marc Prud'hommeaux [mailto:mprudhomapache@gmail.com] On 
> Behalf Of Marc Prud'hommeaux
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 11:39 AM
> To: open-jpa-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: 0.9.7 release
> 
> Matthieu-
> 
> I don't think we have any date estimates yet. Craig was going to put  
> together the beginnings of a roadmap summary that should be useful  
> for this.
> 
> Looking at the JIRA roadmap for OpenJPA (http://issues.apache.org/ 
> jira/browse/OPENJPA? 
> report=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project:roadmap-panel), we  
> have a pretty ambition list of fixes for 0.9.7. If your ODE release  
> is being blocked, I wonder if it would make sense to bump everything  
> up a release (0.9.7 issues go to 0.9.8, and 0.9.8 goes to 0.9.9) and  
> cut a release sooner rather than later.
> 
> Thoughts anyone?
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 26, 2007, at 11:54 AM, Matthieu Riou wrote:
> 
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > We've started preparing an incubator release for ODE and we're now  
> > using
> > OpenJPA (pretty happily I should say). We can't use 0.9.6 
> as we need a
> > couple of fixes from 0.9.7 so we've been using the snapshot 
> so far.  
> > But as
> > you know we won't be able to release with it (and generally speaking
> > depending on snapshots is not that nice).
> >
> > So we were just wondering if you had any time frame so far for  
> > 0.9.7 final.
> > I've seen that you started discussing future plans so maybe 0.9.7  
> > should
> > happen soon enough?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Matthieu
> 
> 

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Re: 0.9.7 release

Posted by Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com>.
We'll be ready for the first RC in about 2 weeks so it's only going to be a
problem at that time. We could work that around by doing our own build of
OpenJPA and distributing it with ODE but that wouldn't be ideal. And OpenJPA
0.9.6 is aging now :-)

Matthieu

On 3/27/07, Marc Prud'hommeaux <mp...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Matthieu-
>
> I don't think we have any date estimates yet. Craig was going to put
> together the beginnings of a roadmap summary that should be useful
> for this.
>
> Looking at the JIRA roadmap for OpenJPA (http://issues.apache.org/
> jira/browse/OPENJPA?
> report=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project:roadmap-panel), we
> have a pretty ambition list of fixes for 0.9.7. If your ODE release
> is being blocked, I wonder if it would make sense to bump everything
> up a release (0.9.7 issues go to 0.9.8, and 0.9.8 goes to 0.9.9) and
> cut a release sooner rather than later.
>
> Thoughts anyone?
>
>
>
> On Mar 26, 2007, at 11:54 AM, Matthieu Riou wrote:
>
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > We've started preparing an incubator release for ODE and we're now
> > using
> > OpenJPA (pretty happily I should say). We can't use 0.9.6 as we need a
> > couple of fixes from 0.9.7 so we've been using the snapshot so far.
> > But as
> > you know we won't be able to release with it (and generally speaking
> > depending on snapshots is not that nice).
> >
> > So we were just wondering if you had any time frame so far for
> > 0.9.7 final.
> > I've seen that you started discussing future plans so maybe 0.9.7
> > should
> > happen soon enough?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Matthieu
>
>

Re: 0.9.7 release

Posted by Marc Prud'hommeaux <mp...@apache.org>.
Matthieu-

I don't think we have any date estimates yet. Craig was going to put  
together the beginnings of a roadmap summary that should be useful  
for this.

Looking at the JIRA roadmap for OpenJPA (http://issues.apache.org/ 
jira/browse/OPENJPA? 
report=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project:roadmap-panel), we  
have a pretty ambition list of fixes for 0.9.7. If your ODE release  
is being blocked, I wonder if it would make sense to bump everything  
up a release (0.9.7 issues go to 0.9.8, and 0.9.8 goes to 0.9.9) and  
cut a release sooner rather than later.

Thoughts anyone?



On Mar 26, 2007, at 11:54 AM, Matthieu Riou wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> We've started preparing an incubator release for ODE and we're now  
> using
> OpenJPA (pretty happily I should say). We can't use 0.9.6 as we need a
> couple of fixes from 0.9.7 so we've been using the snapshot so far.  
> But as
> you know we won't be able to release with it (and generally speaking
> depending on snapshots is not that nice).
>
> So we were just wondering if you had any time frame so far for  
> 0.9.7 final.
> I've seen that you started discussing future plans so maybe 0.9.7  
> should
> happen soon enough?
>
> Thanks,
> Matthieu