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Posted to dev@camel.apache.org by Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com> on 2011/03/24 16:23:42 UTC

[DISCUSS] New Logo

Hi Camel Riders,

With camel-2.7.0 out of the way I believe it's time to continue the improvements of the camel site design [1].
I will start a separate thread for documentation/manual and keep this thread for the logo and css.

We have already a few contributions and I don't think other contributors will step up with new proposals, so I'd propose choosing from what we have, which are of great quality already. So before we go to a poll or vote I would highly appreciate your input on what logo would be best for the camel project.

We have a few proposals so far:
A. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
B. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic2.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
C. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/dvichot-camel-logo.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1296745441000

Since there are a few versions in each of the attachments above please specify your preference as combination of letter and number (in the last one they are not numbered, so let's use 1-3 left to right on the top row and 4 for the one on the bottom row). If it matters my favorites are C3 and C1, in that order.

If you believe something can be improved, like color, font (style, size and placement), please feel free to add your suggestion. I believe the original authors (or somebody) will be able to make the improvements.

Thanks,
Hadrian

[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Site+Update+Ideas

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Christian Schneider <ch...@die-schneider.net>.

I would also rather stay with the old logo for the moment.

Like James wrote A and B look good technically but are a bit off as a 
logo and C are not so well drawn.

Christian


Am 25.03.2011 11:50, schrieb James Strachan:
> quick answer: D
>
> longer answer:
>
> I tend to agree; A looks very mean&  angry, B looks a bit disturbed or
> has some kind of problem and C looks a bit badly drawn :). None are
> improvements IMHO.
>
>  From Debbie's submissions I don't like F either, doesn't do anything
> for me, bit dull really. E is OK (looks a bit coy) but so far my
> favourite is D as its simple, cute, recognisable and I don't have any
> negative feelings towards it (unlike most of the others really).
>
>
> On 25 March 2011 10:37, Claus Ibsen<cl...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I dislike the A,B and C proposals.
>> Especially the first two A and B, looks much more like horses than camels.
>> For me personally I think its important that the hump on the Camel is
>> in the logo.
>>
>> So far I like the old logo the best.
>>
>>
>>
>> Debbie from FuseSource marketing had some sketches draw for our
>> CamelOne event by a professional sketch firm.
>> She said she would like to donate logos to the community and pay for
>> any changes we would like.
>>
>> She had sketched the following 3 camels.
>>
>> D: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel01.jpg
>> E: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel02.jpg
>> F: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel04.jpg
>>
>> Maybe any of those or the cartoonish style it impose could be usable.
>> The Apache Camel text logo should of course be added.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea<hz...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> Hi Camel Riders,
>>>
>>> With camel-2.7.0 out of the way I believe it's time to continue the improvements of the camel site design [1].
>>> I will start a separate thread for documentation/manual and keep this thread for the logo and css.
>>>
>>> We have already a few contributions and I don't think other contributors will step up with new proposals, so I'd propose choosing from what we have, which are of great quality already. So before we go to a poll or vote I would highly appreciate your input on what logo would be best for the camel project.
>>>
>>> We have a few proposals so far:
>>> A. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>> B. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic2.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>> C. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/dvichot-camel-logo.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1296745441000
>>>
>>> Since there are a few versions in each of the attachments above please specify your preference as combination of letter and number (in the last one they are not numbered, so let's use 1-3 left to right on the top row and 4 for the one on the bottom row). If it matters my favorites are C3 and C1, in that order.
>>>
>>> If you believe something can be improved, like color, font (style, size and placement), please feel free to add your suggestion. I believe the original authors (or somebody) will be able to make the improvements.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Hadrian
>>>
>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Site+Update+Ideas
>>
>>
>> --
>> Claus Ibsen
>> -----------------
>> FuseSource
>> Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>> Twitter: davsclaus
>> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
>>
>
>

-- 
----
http://www.liquid-reality.de

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Jon Anstey <ja...@gmail.com>.

FYI I have always thought this was the Camel logo (on top left corner of
http://camel.apache.org/):

http://camel.apache.org/images/apache-camel-100h.png

Am I wrong? But anyway, not an important detail...

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Jon, we don't *really* *must* to have a *new* logo. We should have *a*
> logo. The boxed image isn't really a logo and we can keep it, it doesn't
> mean we have to replace it. Take a peek at servicemix for instance. It would
> be great to have something simple as a logo, as somebody already mentioned
> in this thread. Servicemix, Karaf and Aries did a great job, as well as many
> other Apache projects. The thing is camel does *not* have a logo.
>
> Hadrian
>
>
> On Mar 25, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Jon Anstey wrote:
>
> > My current favs in order are:
> >
> > #1 The current Camel logo
> > #2 If we REALLY must use a new logo, then D looks best
> >
> > I actually like that box... its a cool graphic :)
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hzbarcea@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> I believe we should drop the box. To me the box makes it look more like
> the
> >> Camel cigarettes.
> >>
> >> Hadrian
> >>
> >> On Mar 25, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
> >>
> >>> We should maybe also have the box updated? Currently it has the old
> >>> logo engraved.
> >>>
> >>> We should maybe have a box
> >>> - without logo
> >>> - with logo
> >>>
> >>> And maybe in different sizes. But maybe we can resize those ourself :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> About the Aries logo. When I think of Aries I kinda think about the
> >>> old greek mythology and thus I think their logo fit the style back
> >>> then.
> >>> For Camel I don't have that thought, and would like the logo to not go
> >>> down that path.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>> I like D too. I am also glad to be proven wrong and have new
> >> submissions. Go Debbie.
> >>>>
> >>>> What about something in the style of the apache aries logo (but with a
> >> camel, obviously) ?
> >>>> http://aries.apache.org
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> Hadrian
> >>>>
> >>>> PS. Before pressing 'Send' I tool a few minutes to look at the logos
> >> again, and I like D even more.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mar 25, 2011, at 6:50 AM, James Strachan wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> quick answer: D
> >>>>>
> >>>>> longer answer:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I tend to agree; A looks very mean & angry, B looks a bit disturbed
> or
> >>>>> has some kind of problem and C looks a bit badly drawn :). None are
> >>>>> improvements IMHO.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> From Debbie's submissions I don't like F either, doesn't do anything
> >>>>> for me, bit dull really. E is OK (looks a bit coy) but so far my
> >>>>> favourite is D as its simple, cute, recognisable and I don't have any
> >>>>> negative feelings towards it (unlike most of the others really).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 25 March 2011 10:37, Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I dislike the A,B and C proposals.
> >>>>>> Especially the first two A and B, looks much more like horses than
> >> camels.
> >>>>>> For me personally I think its important that the hump on the Camel
> is
> >>>>>> in the logo.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So far I like the old logo the best.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Debbie from FuseSource marketing had some sketches draw for our
> >>>>>> CamelOne event by a professional sketch firm.
> >>>>>> She said she would like to donate logos to the community and pay for
> >>>>>> any changes we would like.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> She had sketched the following 3 camels.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> D:
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel01.jpg
> >>>>>> E:
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel02.jpg
> >>>>>> F:
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel04.jpg
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Maybe any of those or the cartoonish style it impose could be
> usable.
> >>>>>> The Apache Camel text logo should of course be added.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <
> hzbarcea@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi Camel Riders,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> With camel-2.7.0 out of the way I believe it's time to continue the
> >> improvements of the camel site design [1].
> >>>>>>> I will start a separate thread for documentation/manual and keep
> this
> >> thread for the logo and css.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We have already a few contributions and I don't think other
> >> contributors will step up with new proposals, so I'd propose choosing
> from
> >> what we have, which are of great quality already. So before we go to a
> poll
> >> or vote I would highly appreciate your input on what logo would be best
> for
> >> the camel project.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We have a few proposals so far:
> >>>>>>> A.
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
> >>>>>>> B.
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic2.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
> >>>>>>> C.
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/dvichot-camel-logo.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1296745441000
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Since there are a few versions in each of the attachments above
> >> please specify your preference as combination of letter and number (in
> the
> >> last one they are not numbered, so let's use 1-3 left to right on the
> top
> >> row and 4 for the one on the bottom row). If it matters my favorites are
> C3
> >> and C1, in that order.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If you believe something can be improved, like color, font (style,
> >> size and placement), please feel free to add your suggestion. I believe
> the
> >> original authors (or somebody) will be able to make the improvements.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>> Hadrian
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [1]
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Site+Update+Ideas
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Claus Ibsen
> >>>>>> -----------------
> >>>>>> FuseSource
> >>>>>> Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
> >>>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
> >>>>>> Twitter: davsclaus
> >>>>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
> >>>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> James
> >>>>> -------
> >>>>> FuseSource
> >>>>> Email: james@fusesource.com
> >>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
> >>>>> Twitter: jstrachan
> >>>>> Blog: http://macstrac.blogspot.com/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Open Source Integration
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Claus Ibsen
> >>> -----------------
> >>> FuseSource
> >>> Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
> >>> Web: http://fusesource.com
> >>> Twitter: davsclaus
> >>> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
> >>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > Jon
> > ---------------
> > FuseSource
> > Email: jon@fusesource.com
> > Web: fusesource.com
> > Twitter: jon_anstey
> > Blog: http://janstey.blogspot.com
> > Author of Camel in Action: http://manning.com/ibsen
>
>


-- 
Cheers,
Jon
---------------
FuseSource
Email: jon@fusesource.com
Web: fusesource.com
Twitter: jon_anstey
Blog: http://janstey.blogspot.com
Author of Camel in Action: http://manning.com/ibsen

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com>.

Jon, we don't *really* *must* to have a *new* logo. We should have *a* logo. The boxed image isn't really a logo and we can keep it, it doesn't mean we have to replace it. Take a peek at servicemix for instance. It would be great to have something simple as a logo, as somebody already mentioned in this thread. Servicemix, Karaf and Aries did a great job, as well as many other Apache projects. The thing is camel does *not* have a logo.

Hadrian


On Mar 25, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Jon Anstey wrote:

> My current favs in order are:
> 
> #1 The current Camel logo
> #2 If we REALLY must use a new logo, then D looks best
> 
> I actually like that box... its a cool graphic :)
> 
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> I believe we should drop the box. To me the box makes it look more like the
>> Camel cigarettes.
>> 
>> Hadrian
>> 
>> On Mar 25, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>> 
>>> We should maybe also have the box updated? Currently it has the old
>>> logo engraved.
>>> 
>>> We should maybe have a box
>>> - without logo
>>> - with logo
>>> 
>>> And maybe in different sizes. But maybe we can resize those ourself :)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> About the Aries logo. When I think of Aries I kinda think about the
>>> old greek mythology and thus I think their logo fit the style back
>>> then.
>>> For Camel I don't have that thought, and would like the logo to not go
>>> down that path.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> I like D too. I am also glad to be proven wrong and have new
>> submissions. Go Debbie.
>>>> 
>>>> What about something in the style of the apache aries logo (but with a
>> camel, obviously) ?
>>>> http://aries.apache.org
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Hadrian
>>>> 
>>>> PS. Before pressing 'Send' I tool a few minutes to look at the logos
>> again, and I like D even more.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 25, 2011, at 6:50 AM, James Strachan wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> quick answer: D
>>>>> 
>>>>> longer answer:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I tend to agree; A looks very mean & angry, B looks a bit disturbed or
>>>>> has some kind of problem and C looks a bit badly drawn :). None are
>>>>> improvements IMHO.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From Debbie's submissions I don't like F either, doesn't do anything
>>>>> for me, bit dull really. E is OK (looks a bit coy) but so far my
>>>>> favourite is D as its simple, cute, recognisable and I don't have any
>>>>> negative feelings towards it (unlike most of the others really).
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 25 March 2011 10:37, Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I dislike the A,B and C proposals.
>>>>>> Especially the first two A and B, looks much more like horses than
>> camels.
>>>>>> For me personally I think its important that the hump on the Camel is
>>>>>> in the logo.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So far I like the old logo the best.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Debbie from FuseSource marketing had some sketches draw for our
>>>>>> CamelOne event by a professional sketch firm.
>>>>>> She said she would like to donate logos to the community and pay for
>>>>>> any changes we would like.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> She had sketched the following 3 camels.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> D:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel01.jpg
>>>>>> E:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel02.jpg
>>>>>> F:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel04.jpg
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Maybe any of those or the cartoonish style it impose could be usable.
>>>>>> The Apache Camel text logo should of course be added.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Camel Riders,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> With camel-2.7.0 out of the way I believe it's time to continue the
>> improvements of the camel site design [1].
>>>>>>> I will start a separate thread for documentation/manual and keep this
>> thread for the logo and css.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We have already a few contributions and I don't think other
>> contributors will step up with new proposals, so I'd propose choosing from
>> what we have, which are of great quality already. So before we go to a poll
>> or vote I would highly appreciate your input on what logo would be best for
>> the camel project.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We have a few proposals so far:
>>>>>>> A.
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>>>>>> B.
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic2.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>>>>>> C.
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/dvichot-camel-logo.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1296745441000
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Since there are a few versions in each of the attachments above
>> please specify your preference as combination of letter and number (in the
>> last one they are not numbered, so let's use 1-3 left to right on the top
>> row and 4 for the one on the bottom row). If it matters my favorites are C3
>> and C1, in that order.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you believe something can be improved, like color, font (style,
>> size and placement), please feel free to add your suggestion. I believe the
>> original authors (or somebody) will be able to make the improvements.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Hadrian
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> [1]
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Site+Update+Ideas
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Claus Ibsen
>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>> FuseSource
>>>>>> Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
>>>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>>>>> Twitter: davsclaus
>>>>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
>>>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> James
>>>>> -------
>>>>> FuseSource
>>>>> Email: james@fusesource.com
>>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>>>> Twitter: jstrachan
>>>>> Blog: http://macstrac.blogspot.com/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Open Source Integration
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Claus Ibsen
>>> -----------------
>>> FuseSource
>>> Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>> Twitter: davsclaus
>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cheers,
> Jon
> ---------------
> FuseSource
> Email: jon@fusesource.com
> Web: fusesource.com
> Twitter: jon_anstey
> Blog: http://janstey.blogspot.com
> Author of Camel in Action: http://manning.com/ibsen

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Jon Anstey <ja...@gmail.com>.

My current favs in order are:

#1 The current Camel logo
#2 If we REALLY must use a new logo, then D looks best

I actually like that box... its a cool graphic :)

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com>wrote:

> I believe we should drop the box. To me the box makes it look more like the
> Camel cigarettes.
>
> Hadrian
>
> On Mar 25, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>
> > We should maybe also have the box updated? Currently it has the old
> > logo engraved.
> >
> > We should maybe have a box
> > - without logo
> > - with logo
> >
> > And maybe in different sizes. But maybe we can resize those ourself :)
> >
> >
> > About the Aries logo. When I think of Aries I kinda think about the
> > old greek mythology and thus I think their logo fit the style back
> > then.
> > For Camel I don't have that thought, and would like the logo to not go
> > down that path.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> I like D too. I am also glad to be proven wrong and have new
> submissions. Go Debbie.
> >>
> >> What about something in the style of the apache aries logo (but with a
> camel, obviously) ?
> >> http://aries.apache.org
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Hadrian
> >>
> >> PS. Before pressing 'Send' I tool a few minutes to look at the logos
> again, and I like D even more.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mar 25, 2011, at 6:50 AM, James Strachan wrote:
> >>
> >>> quick answer: D
> >>>
> >>> longer answer:
> >>>
> >>> I tend to agree; A looks very mean & angry, B looks a bit disturbed or
> >>> has some kind of problem and C looks a bit badly drawn :). None are
> >>> improvements IMHO.
> >>>
> >>> From Debbie's submissions I don't like F either, doesn't do anything
> >>> for me, bit dull really. E is OK (looks a bit coy) but so far my
> >>> favourite is D as its simple, cute, recognisable and I don't have any
> >>> negative feelings towards it (unlike most of the others really).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 25 March 2011 10:37, Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Hi
> >>>>
> >>>> I dislike the A,B and C proposals.
> >>>> Especially the first two A and B, looks much more like horses than
> camels.
> >>>> For me personally I think its important that the hump on the Camel is
> >>>> in the logo.
> >>>>
> >>>> So far I like the old logo the best.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Debbie from FuseSource marketing had some sketches draw for our
> >>>> CamelOne event by a professional sketch firm.
> >>>> She said she would like to donate logos to the community and pay for
> >>>> any changes we would like.
> >>>>
> >>>> She had sketched the following 3 camels.
> >>>>
> >>>> D:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel01.jpg
> >>>> E:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel02.jpg
> >>>> F:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel04.jpg
> >>>>
> >>>> Maybe any of those or the cartoonish style it impose could be usable.
> >>>> The Apache Camel text logo should of course be added.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Camel Riders,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> With camel-2.7.0 out of the way I believe it's time to continue the
> improvements of the camel site design [1].
> >>>>> I will start a separate thread for documentation/manual and keep this
> thread for the logo and css.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We have already a few contributions and I don't think other
> contributors will step up with new proposals, so I'd propose choosing from
> what we have, which are of great quality already. So before we go to a poll
> or vote I would highly appreciate your input on what logo would be best for
> the camel project.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We have a few proposals so far:
> >>>>> A.
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
> >>>>> B.
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic2.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
> >>>>> C.
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/dvichot-camel-logo.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1296745441000
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Since there are a few versions in each of the attachments above
> please specify your preference as combination of letter and number (in the
> last one they are not numbered, so let's use 1-3 left to right on the top
> row and 4 for the one on the bottom row). If it matters my favorites are C3
> and C1, in that order.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you believe something can be improved, like color, font (style,
> size and placement), please feel free to add your suggestion. I believe the
> original authors (or somebody) will be able to make the improvements.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Hadrian
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [1]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Site+Update+Ideas
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Claus Ibsen
> >>>> -----------------
> >>>> FuseSource
> >>>> Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
> >>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
> >>>> Twitter: davsclaus
> >>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
> >>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> James
> >>> -------
> >>> FuseSource
> >>> Email: james@fusesource.com
> >>> Web: http://fusesource.com
> >>> Twitter: jstrachan
> >>> Blog: http://macstrac.blogspot.com/
> >>>
> >>> Open Source Integration
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Claus Ibsen
> > -----------------
> > FuseSource
> > Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
> > Web: http://fusesource.com
> > Twitter: davsclaus
> > Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
> > Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
>
>


-- 
Cheers,
Jon
---------------
FuseSource
Email: jon@fusesource.com
Web: fusesource.com
Twitter: jon_anstey
Blog: http://janstey.blogspot.com
Author of Camel in Action: http://manning.com/ibsen

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com>.

I believe we should drop the box. To me the box makes it look more like the Camel cigarettes.

Hadrian

On Mar 25, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote:

> We should maybe also have the box updated? Currently it has the old
> logo engraved.
> 
> We should maybe have a box
> - without logo
> - with logo
> 
> And maybe in different sizes. But maybe we can resize those ourself :)
> 
> 
> About the Aries logo. When I think of Aries I kinda think about the
> old greek mythology and thus I think their logo fit the style back
> then.
> For Camel I don't have that thought, and would like the logo to not go
> down that path.
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I like D too. I am also glad to be proven wrong and have new submissions. Go Debbie.
>> 
>> What about something in the style of the apache aries logo (but with a camel, obviously) ?
>> http://aries.apache.org
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Hadrian
>> 
>> PS. Before pressing 'Send' I tool a few minutes to look at the logos again, and I like D even more.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 25, 2011, at 6:50 AM, James Strachan wrote:
>> 
>>> quick answer: D
>>> 
>>> longer answer:
>>> 
>>> I tend to agree; A looks very mean & angry, B looks a bit disturbed or
>>> has some kind of problem and C looks a bit badly drawn :). None are
>>> improvements IMHO.
>>> 
>>> From Debbie's submissions I don't like F either, doesn't do anything
>>> for me, bit dull really. E is OK (looks a bit coy) but so far my
>>> favourite is D as its simple, cute, recognisable and I don't have any
>>> negative feelings towards it (unlike most of the others really).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 25 March 2011 10:37, Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>> 
>>>> I dislike the A,B and C proposals.
>>>> Especially the first two A and B, looks much more like horses than camels.
>>>> For me personally I think its important that the hump on the Camel is
>>>> in the logo.
>>>> 
>>>> So far I like the old logo the best.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Debbie from FuseSource marketing had some sketches draw for our
>>>> CamelOne event by a professional sketch firm.
>>>> She said she would like to donate logos to the community and pay for
>>>> any changes we would like.
>>>> 
>>>> She had sketched the following 3 camels.
>>>> 
>>>> D: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel01.jpg
>>>> E: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel02.jpg
>>>> F: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel04.jpg
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe any of those or the cartoonish style it impose could be usable.
>>>> The Apache Camel text logo should of course be added.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Camel Riders,
>>>>> 
>>>>> With camel-2.7.0 out of the way I believe it's time to continue the improvements of the camel site design [1].
>>>>> I will start a separate thread for documentation/manual and keep this thread for the logo and css.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We have already a few contributions and I don't think other contributors will step up with new proposals, so I'd propose choosing from what we have, which are of great quality already. So before we go to a poll or vote I would highly appreciate your input on what logo would be best for the camel project.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We have a few proposals so far:
>>>>> A. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>>>> B. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic2.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>>>> C. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/dvichot-camel-logo.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1296745441000
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since there are a few versions in each of the attachments above please specify your preference as combination of letter and number (in the last one they are not numbered, so let's use 1-3 left to right on the top row and 4 for the one on the bottom row). If it matters my favorites are C3 and C1, in that order.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you believe something can be improved, like color, font (style, size and placement), please feel free to add your suggestion. I believe the original authors (or somebody) will be able to make the improvements.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Hadrian
>>>>> 
>>>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Site+Update+Ideas
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Claus Ibsen
>>>> -----------------
>>>> FuseSource
>>>> Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>>> Twitter: davsclaus
>>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> James
>>> -------
>>> FuseSource
>>> Email: james@fusesource.com
>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>> Twitter: jstrachan
>>> Blog: http://macstrac.blogspot.com/
>>> 
>>> Open Source Integration
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Claus Ibsen
> -----------------
> FuseSource
> Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
> Web: http://fusesource.com
> Twitter: davsclaus
> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com>.

We should maybe also have the box updated? Currently it has the old
logo engraved.

We should maybe have a box
- without logo
- with logo

And maybe in different sizes. But maybe we can resize those ourself :)


About the Aries logo. When I think of Aries I kinda think about the
old greek mythology and thus I think their logo fit the style back
then.
For Camel I don't have that thought, and would like the logo to not go
down that path.



On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I like D too. I am also glad to be proven wrong and have new submissions. Go Debbie.
>
> What about something in the style of the apache aries logo (but with a camel, obviously) ?
> http://aries.apache.org
>
> Cheers,
> Hadrian
>
> PS. Before pressing 'Send' I tool a few minutes to look at the logos again, and I like D even more.
>
>
>
> On Mar 25, 2011, at 6:50 AM, James Strachan wrote:
>
>> quick answer: D
>>
>> longer answer:
>>
>> I tend to agree; A looks very mean & angry, B looks a bit disturbed or
>> has some kind of problem and C looks a bit badly drawn :). None are
>> improvements IMHO.
>>
>> From Debbie's submissions I don't like F either, doesn't do anything
>> for me, bit dull really. E is OK (looks a bit coy) but so far my
>> favourite is D as its simple, cute, recognisable and I don't have any
>> negative feelings towards it (unlike most of the others really).
>>
>>
>> On 25 March 2011 10:37, Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I dislike the A,B and C proposals.
>>> Especially the first two A and B, looks much more like horses than camels.
>>> For me personally I think its important that the hump on the Camel is
>>> in the logo.
>>>
>>> So far I like the old logo the best.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Debbie from FuseSource marketing had some sketches draw for our
>>> CamelOne event by a professional sketch firm.
>>> She said she would like to donate logos to the community and pay for
>>> any changes we would like.
>>>
>>> She had sketched the following 3 camels.
>>>
>>> D: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel01.jpg
>>> E: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel02.jpg
>>> F: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel04.jpg
>>>
>>> Maybe any of those or the cartoonish style it impose could be usable.
>>> The Apache Camel text logo should of course be added.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Camel Riders,
>>>>
>>>> With camel-2.7.0 out of the way I believe it's time to continue the improvements of the camel site design [1].
>>>> I will start a separate thread for documentation/manual and keep this thread for the logo and css.
>>>>
>>>> We have already a few contributions and I don't think other contributors will step up with new proposals, so I'd propose choosing from what we have, which are of great quality already. So before we go to a poll or vote I would highly appreciate your input on what logo would be best for the camel project.
>>>>
>>>> We have a few proposals so far:
>>>> A. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>>> B. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic2.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>>> C. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/dvichot-camel-logo.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1296745441000
>>>>
>>>> Since there are a few versions in each of the attachments above please specify your preference as combination of letter and number (in the last one they are not numbered, so let's use 1-3 left to right on the top row and 4 for the one on the bottom row). If it matters my favorites are C3 and C1, in that order.
>>>>
>>>> If you believe something can be improved, like color, font (style, size and placement), please feel free to add your suggestion. I believe the original authors (or somebody) will be able to make the improvements.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Hadrian
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Site+Update+Ideas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Claus Ibsen
>>> -----------------
>>> FuseSource
>>> Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>> Twitter: davsclaus
>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> James
>> -------
>> FuseSource
>> Email: james@fusesource.com
>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>> Twitter: jstrachan
>> Blog: http://macstrac.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Open Source Integration
>
>



-- 
Claus Ibsen
-----------------
FuseSource
Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
Web: http://fusesource.com
Twitter: davsclaus
Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com>.

I assume we can make changes to it later on. Like James said, we'd need to at least add the text.
For now we're making great progress. The contenders so far are A and D. They are both simple, which I like. I agree with James, A is too angry.

With the new submissions I assume the preferences expressed yesterday will change. I am curious if anybody would find an aries style logo appropriate. Looks like we're close to finding a candidate, make a few modifications of it and start a vote.

Cheers,
Hadrian


On Mar 25, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Charles Moulliard wrote:

> Hi Hadrian,
> 
> D is also my favorite but we should reduce the size as this camel is
> too elongated.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Charles
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I like D too. I am also glad to be proven wrong and have new submissions. Go Debbie.
>> 
>> What about something in the style of the apache aries logo (but with a camel, obviously) ?
>> http://aries.apache.org
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Hadrian
>> 
>> PS. Before pressing 'Send' I tool a few minutes to look at the logos again, and I like D even more.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 25, 2011, at 6:50 AM, James Strachan wrote:
>> 
>>> quick answer: D
>>> 
>>> longer answer:
>>> 
>>> I tend to agree; A looks very mean & angry, B looks a bit disturbed or
>>> has some kind of problem and C looks a bit badly drawn :). None are
>>> improvements IMHO.
>>> 
>>> From Debbie's submissions I don't like F either, doesn't do anything
>>> for me, bit dull really. E is OK (looks a bit coy) but so far my
>>> favourite is D as its simple, cute, recognisable and I don't have any
>>> negative feelings towards it (unlike most of the others really).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 25 March 2011 10:37, Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>> 
>>>> I dislike the A,B and C proposals.
>>>> Especially the first two A and B, looks much more like horses than camels.
>>>> For me personally I think its important that the hump on the Camel is
>>>> in the logo.
>>>> 
>>>> So far I like the old logo the best.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Debbie from FuseSource marketing had some sketches draw for our
>>>> CamelOne event by a professional sketch firm.
>>>> She said she would like to donate logos to the community and pay for
>>>> any changes we would like.
>>>> 
>>>> She had sketched the following 3 camels.
>>>> 
>>>> D: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel01.jpg
>>>> E: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel02.jpg
>>>> F: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel04.jpg
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe any of those or the cartoonish style it impose could be usable.
>>>> The Apache Camel text logo should of course be added.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Camel Riders,
>>>>> 
>>>>> With camel-2.7.0 out of the way I believe it's time to continue the improvements of the camel site design [1].
>>>>> I will start a separate thread for documentation/manual and keep this thread for the logo and css.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We have already a few contributions and I don't think other contributors will step up with new proposals, so I'd propose choosing from what we have, which are of great quality already. So before we go to a poll or vote I would highly appreciate your input on what logo would be best for the camel project.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We have a few proposals so far:
>>>>> A. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>>>> B. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic2.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>>>> C. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/dvichot-camel-logo.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1296745441000
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since there are a few versions in each of the attachments above please specify your preference as combination of letter and number (in the last one they are not numbered, so let's use 1-3 left to right on the top row and 4 for the one on the bottom row). If it matters my favorites are C3 and C1, in that order.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you believe something can be improved, like color, font (style, size and placement), please feel free to add your suggestion. I believe the original authors (or somebody) will be able to make the improvements.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Hadrian
>>>>> 
>>>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Site+Update+Ideas
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Claus Ibsen
>>>> -----------------
>>>> FuseSource
>>>> Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>>> Twitter: davsclaus
>>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> James
>>> -------
>>> FuseSource
>>> Email: james@fusesource.com
>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>> Twitter: jstrachan
>>> Blog: http://macstrac.blogspot.com/
>>> 
>>> Open Source Integration
>> 
>>

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Christian Schneider <ch...@die-schneider.net>.

I like D1 and D2

Christian


Am 27.03.2011 12:47, schrieb Richard Kettelerij:
> Image is also available at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/total.gif
>
> On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Richard Kettelerij<
> richardkettelerij@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>> Image D is also my favorite. As Jon suggested I think it's best to put the
>> text over two lines since it's a rather tall Camel.
>>
>> I've fiddled around with the text and created 6 logo designs (there
>> numbered as D1, D1a, D2, etc). See the attached image. Personally I like D1
>> and D3a the best.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Richard
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 1:44 AM, Jon Anstey<ja...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> Looks great! I wonder does it look better with apache and camel over 2
>>> lines?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Rob Davies<ra...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here's one from the artist with Apache Camel next to the cartoon camel -
>>>> If you want the text smaller, or below the Camel let me know
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 25 Mar 2011, at 13:39, Willem Jiang wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> +1 for D, and we could also add "Apache Camel" in the blow of the log.
>>>>>
>>>>> Willem
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/25/11 9:29 PM, Charles Moulliard wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Hadrian,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> D is also my favorite but we should reduce the size as this camel is
>>>>>> too elongated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Charles
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea<hz...@gmail.com>
>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>> I like D too. I am also glad to be proven wrong and have new
>>>> submissions. Go Debbie.
>>>>>>> What about something in the style of the apache aries logo (but with
>>>> a camel, obviously) ?
>>>>>>> http://aries.apache.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Hadrian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PS. Before pressing 'Send' I tool a few minutes to look at the logos
>>>> again, and I like D even more.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 25, 2011, at 6:50 AM, James Strachan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> quick answer: D
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> longer answer:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I tend to agree; A looks very mean&   angry, B looks a bit disturbed
>>>> or
>>>>>>>> has some kind of problem and C looks a bit badly drawn :). None are
>>>>>>>> improvements IMHO.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  From Debbie's submissions I don't like F either, doesn't do anything
>>>>>>>> for me, bit dull really. E is OK (looks a bit coy) but so far my
>>>>>>>> favourite is D as its simple, cute, recognisable and I don't have
>>>> any
>>>>>>>> negative feelings towards it (unlike most of the others really).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 25 March 2011 10:37, Claus Ibsen<cl...@gmail.com>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I dislike the A,B and C proposals.
>>>>>>>>> Especially the first two A and B, looks much more like horses than
>>>> camels.
>>>>>>>>> For me personally I think its important that the hump on the Camel
>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> in the logo.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So far I like the old logo the best.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Debbie from FuseSource marketing had some sketches draw for our
>>>>>>>>> CamelOne event by a professional sketch firm.
>>>>>>>>> She said she would like to donate logos to the community and pay
>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> any changes we would like.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> She had sketched the following 3 camels.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> D:
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel01.jpg
>>>>>>>>> E:
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel02.jpg
>>>>>>>>> F:
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel04.jpg
>>>>>>>>> Maybe any of those or the cartoonish style it impose could be
>>>> usable.
>>>>>>>>> The Apache Camel text logo should of course be added.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea<
>>>> hzbarcea@gmail.com>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Camel Riders,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> With camel-2.7.0 out of the way I believe it's time to continue
>>>> the improvements of the camel site design [1].
>>>>>>>>>> I will start a separate thread for documentation/manual and keep
>>>> this thread for the logo and css.
>>>>>>>>>> We have already a few contributions and I don't think other
>>>> contributors will step up with new proposals, so I'd propose choosing from
>>>> what we have, which are of great quality already. So before we go to a poll
>>>> or vote I would highly appreciate your input on what logo would be best for
>>>> the camel project.
>>>>>>>>>> We have a few proposals so far:
>>>>>>>>>> A.
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>>>>>>>>> B.
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic2.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>>>>>>>>> C.
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/dvichot-camel-logo.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1296745441000
>>>>>>>>>> Since there are a few versions in each of the attachments above
>>>> please specify your preference as combination of letter and number (in the
>>>> last one they are not numbered, so let's use 1-3 left to right on the top
>>>> row and 4 for the one on the bottom row). If it matters my favorites are C3
>>>> and C1, in that order.
>>>>>>>>>> If you believe something can be improved, like color, font (style,
>>>> size and placement), please feel free to add your suggestion. I believe the
>>>> original authors (or somebody) will be able to make the improvements.
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Hadrian
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Site+Update+Ideas
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Claus Ibsen
>>>>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>>>>> FuseSource
>>>>>>>>> Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
>>>>>>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>>>>>>>> Twitter: davsclaus
>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>>> FuseSource
>>>>>>>> Email: james@fusesource.com
>>>>>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>>>>>>> Twitter: jstrachan
>>>>>>>> Blog: http://macstrac.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Open Source Integration
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Willem
>>>>> ----------------------------------
>>>>> FuseSource
>>>>> Web: http://www.fusesource.com
>>>>> Blog:    http://willemjiang.blogspot.com (English)
>>>>>          http://jnn.javaeye.com (Chinese)
>>>>> Twitter: willemjiang
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cheers,
>>> Jon
>>> ---------------
>>> FuseSource
>>> Email: jon@fusesource.com
>>> Web: fusesource.com
>>> Twitter: jon_anstey
>>> Blog: http://janstey.blogspot.com
>>>   Author of Camel in Action: http://manning.com/ibsen
>>>
>>>

-- 
----
http://www.liquid-reality.de

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Richard Kettelerij <ri...@gmail.com>.

Image is also available at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/total.gif

On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Richard Kettelerij <
richardkettelerij@gmail.com> wrote:

> Image D is also my favorite. As Jon suggested I think it's best to put the
> text over two lines since it's a rather tall Camel.
>
> I've fiddled around with the text and created 6 logo designs (there
> numbered as D1, D1a, D2, etc). See the attached image. Personally I like D1
> and D3a the best.
>
> Regards,
> Richard
>
> On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 1:44 AM, Jon Anstey <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Looks great! I wonder does it look better with apache and camel over 2
>> lines?
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Rob Davies <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Here's one from the artist with Apache Camel next to the cartoon camel -
>>> If you want the text smaller, or below the Camel let me know
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 25 Mar 2011, at 13:39, Willem Jiang wrote:
>>>
>>> > +1 for D, and we could also add "Apache Camel" in the blow of the log.
>>> >
>>> > Willem
>>> >
>>> > On 3/25/11 9:29 PM, Charles Moulliard wrote:
>>> >> Hi Hadrian,
>>> >>
>>> >> D is also my favorite but we should reduce the size as this camel is
>>> >> too elongated.
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards,
>>> >>
>>> >> Charles
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea<hz...@gmail.com>
>>>  wrote:
>>> >>> I like D too. I am also glad to be proven wrong and have new
>>> submissions. Go Debbie.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> What about something in the style of the apache aries logo (but with
>>> a camel, obviously) ?
>>> >>> http://aries.apache.org
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Cheers,
>>> >>> Hadrian
>>> >>>
>>> >>> PS. Before pressing 'Send' I tool a few minutes to look at the logos
>>> again, and I like D even more.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Mar 25, 2011, at 6:50 AM, James Strachan wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> quick answer: D
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> longer answer:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I tend to agree; A looks very mean&  angry, B looks a bit disturbed
>>> or
>>> >>>> has some kind of problem and C looks a bit badly drawn :). None are
>>> >>>> improvements IMHO.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> From Debbie's submissions I don't like F either, doesn't do anything
>>> >>>> for me, bit dull really. E is OK (looks a bit coy) but so far my
>>> >>>> favourite is D as its simple, cute, recognisable and I don't have
>>> any
>>> >>>> negative feelings towards it (unlike most of the others really).
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On 25 March 2011 10:37, Claus Ibsen<cl...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> >>>>> Hi
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> I dislike the A,B and C proposals.
>>> >>>>> Especially the first two A and B, looks much more like horses than
>>> camels.
>>> >>>>> For me personally I think its important that the hump on the Camel
>>> is
>>> >>>>> in the logo.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> So far I like the old logo the best.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Debbie from FuseSource marketing had some sketches draw for our
>>> >>>>> CamelOne event by a professional sketch firm.
>>> >>>>> She said she would like to donate logos to the community and pay
>>> for
>>> >>>>> any changes we would like.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> She had sketched the following 3 camels.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> D:
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel01.jpg
>>> >>>>> E:
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel02.jpg
>>> >>>>> F:
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel04.jpg
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Maybe any of those or the cartoonish style it impose could be
>>> usable.
>>> >>>>> The Apache Camel text logo should of course be added.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea<
>>> hzbarcea@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> >>>>>> Hi Camel Riders,
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> With camel-2.7.0 out of the way I believe it's time to continue
>>> the improvements of the camel site design [1].
>>> >>>>>> I will start a separate thread for documentation/manual and keep
>>> this thread for the logo and css.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> We have already a few contributions and I don't think other
>>> contributors will step up with new proposals, so I'd propose choosing from
>>> what we have, which are of great quality already. So before we go to a poll
>>> or vote I would highly appreciate your input on what logo would be best for
>>> the camel project.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> We have a few proposals so far:
>>> >>>>>> A.
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>> >>>>>> B.
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic2.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>> >>>>>> C.
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/dvichot-camel-logo.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1296745441000
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Since there are a few versions in each of the attachments above
>>> please specify your preference as combination of letter and number (in the
>>> last one they are not numbered, so let's use 1-3 left to right on the top
>>> row and 4 for the one on the bottom row). If it matters my favorites are C3
>>> and C1, in that order.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> If you believe something can be improved, like color, font (style,
>>> size and placement), please feel free to add your suggestion. I believe the
>>> original authors (or somebody) will be able to make the improvements.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Thanks,
>>> >>>>>> Hadrian
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> [1]
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Site+Update+Ideas
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> --
>>> >>>>> Claus Ibsen
>>> >>>>> -----------------
>>> >>>>> FuseSource
>>> >>>>> Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
>>> >>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>> >>>>> Twitter: davsclaus
>>> >>>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
>>> >>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> --
>>> >>>> James
>>> >>>> -------
>>> >>>> FuseSource
>>> >>>> Email: james@fusesource.com
>>> >>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>> >>>> Twitter: jstrachan
>>> >>>> Blog: http://macstrac.blogspot.com/
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Open Source Integration
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Willem
>>> > ----------------------------------
>>> > FuseSource
>>> > Web: http://www.fusesource.com
>>> > Blog:    http://willemjiang.blogspot.com (English)
>>> >         http://jnn.javaeye.com (Chinese)
>>> > Twitter: willemjiang
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Jon
>> ---------------
>> FuseSource
>> Email: jon@fusesource.com
>> Web: fusesource.com
>> Twitter: jon_anstey
>> Blog: http://janstey.blogspot.com
>>  Author of Camel in Action: http://manning.com/ibsen
>>
>>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Timothy Bish <ta...@gmail.com>.

+1 C4

On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 09:12 -0230, Jon Anstey wrote:
> +1 C4
> 
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 5:38 AM, Rob Davies <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I'll try a jpeg
> >
> >
> > On 28 Mar 2011, at 18:07, Richard Kettelerij wrote:
> >
> > > No attachment here
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Rob Davies <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> weird - it was a pdf - anybody else not see the attachment (attached)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 28 Mar 2011, at 17:59, Johan Edstrom wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> No attachment.
> > >>> On Mar 28, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Rob Davies wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Attached is cartoon camel log with text
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
> >
> 
>

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Jon Anstey <ja...@gmail.com>.

+1 C4

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 5:38 AM, Rob Davies <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'll try a jpeg
>
>
> On 28 Mar 2011, at 18:07, Richard Kettelerij wrote:
>
> > No attachment here
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Rob Davies <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> weird - it was a pdf - anybody else not see the attachment (attached)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 28 Mar 2011, at 17:59, Johan Edstrom wrote:
> >>
> >>> No attachment.
> >>> On Mar 28, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Rob Davies wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Attached is cartoon camel log with text
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>


-- 
Cheers,
Jon
---------------
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Web: fusesource.com
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Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by James Strachan <ja...@fusesource.com>.

On 29 March 2011 11:23, Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I like C4 as well (from Robs JPEG) but I wonder if we can have a
> version without the grey box?
> Just to see how that goes as well.

Yeah; though I do like the idea of some kind of box/background around
the text; seems to add a bit of structure to the logo.

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Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com>.

Hi

I like C4 as well (from Robs JPEG) but I wonder if we can have a
version without the grey box?
Just to see how that goes as well.


On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 12:03 PM, James Strachan <ja...@fusesource.com> wrote:
> Liking C4 plus its not too tall
>
> On 29 March 2011 09:08, Rob Davies <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'll try a jpeg
>>
>>
>> On 28 Mar 2011, at 18:07, Richard Kettelerij wrote:
>>
>>> No attachment here
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Rob Davies <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> weird - it was a pdf - anybody else not see the attachment (attached)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 28 Mar 2011, at 17:59, Johan Edstrom wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> No attachment.
>>>>> On Mar 28, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Rob Davies wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Attached is cartoon camel log with text
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> James
> -------
> FuseSource
> Email: james@fusesource.com
> Web: http://fusesource.com
> Twitter: jstrachan
> Blog: http://macstrac.blogspot.com/
>
> Open Source Integration
>



-- 
Claus Ibsen
-----------------
FuseSource
Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
Web: http://fusesource.com
Twitter: davsclaus
Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by James Strachan <ja...@fusesource.com>.

Liking C4 plus its not too tall

On 29 March 2011 09:08, Rob Davies <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'll try a jpeg
>
>
> On 28 Mar 2011, at 18:07, Richard Kettelerij wrote:
>
>> No attachment here
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Rob Davies <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> weird - it was a pdf - anybody else not see the attachment (attached)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 28 Mar 2011, at 17:59, Johan Edstrom wrote:
>>>
>>>> No attachment.
>>>> On Mar 28, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Rob Davies wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Attached is cartoon camel log with text
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>



-- 
James
-------
FuseSource
Email: james@fusesource.com
Web: http://fusesource.com
Twitter: jstrachan
Blog: http://macstrac.blogspot.com/

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Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Rob Davies <ra...@gmail.com>.

I'll try a jpeg

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Richard Kettelerij <ri...@gmail.com>.

No attachment here

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Rob Davies <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:

> weird - it was a pdf - anybody else not see the attachment (attached)
>
>
>
> On 28 Mar 2011, at 17:59, Johan Edstrom wrote:
>
> > No attachment.
> > On Mar 28, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Rob Davies wrote:
> >
> >> Attached is cartoon camel log with text
> >>
> >
>
>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Rob Davies <ra...@gmail.com>.

weird - it was a pdf - anybody else not see the attachment (attached)

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Johan Edstrom <se...@gmail.com>.

No attachment.
On Mar 28, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Rob Davies wrote:

> Attached is cartoon camel log with text
>

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Rob Davies <ra...@gmail.com>.

Attached is cartoon camel log with text

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com>.

  D3a's Apache word is not clear enough, I like D1 more :)

On 3/27/11 6:41 PM, Richard Kettelerij wrote:
> Image D is also my favorite. As Jon suggested I think it's best to put
> the text over two lines since it's a rather tall Camel.
>
> I've fiddled around with the text and created 6 logo designs (there
> numbered as D1, D1a, D2, etc). See the attached image. Personally I like
> D1 and D3a the best.
>
> Regards,
> Richard
>


-- 
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----------------------------------
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Blog:    http://willemjiang.blogspot.com (English)
          http://jnn.javaeye.com (Chinese)
Twitter: willemjiang

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Richard Kettelerij <ri...@gmail.com>.

Image D is also my favorite. As Jon suggested I think it's best to put the
text over two lines since it's a rather tall Camel.

I've fiddled around with the text and created 6 logo designs (there numbered
as D1, D1a, D2, etc). See the attached image. Personally I like D1 and D3a
the best.

Regards,
Richard

On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 1:44 AM, Jon Anstey <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Looks great! I wonder does it look better with apache and camel over 2
> lines?
>
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Rob Davies <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Here's one from the artist with Apache Camel next to the cartoon camel -
>> If you want the text smaller, or below the Camel let me know
>>
>>
>>
>> On 25 Mar 2011, at 13:39, Willem Jiang wrote:
>>
>> > +1 for D, and we could also add "Apache Camel" in the blow of the log.
>> >
>> > Willem
>> >
>> > On 3/25/11 9:29 PM, Charles Moulliard wrote:
>> >> Hi Hadrian,
>> >>
>> >> D is also my favorite but we should reduce the size as this camel is
>> >> too elongated.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Charles
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea<hz...@gmail.com>
>>  wrote:
>> >>> I like D too. I am also glad to be proven wrong and have new
>> submissions. Go Debbie.
>> >>>
>> >>> What about something in the style of the apache aries logo (but with a
>> camel, obviously) ?
>> >>> http://aries.apache.org
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers,
>> >>> Hadrian
>> >>>
>> >>> PS. Before pressing 'Send' I tool a few minutes to look at the logos
>> again, and I like D even more.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mar 25, 2011, at 6:50 AM, James Strachan wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> quick answer: D
>> >>>>
>> >>>> longer answer:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I tend to agree; A looks very mean&  angry, B looks a bit disturbed
>> or
>> >>>> has some kind of problem and C looks a bit badly drawn :). None are
>> >>>> improvements IMHO.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> From Debbie's submissions I don't like F either, doesn't do anything
>> >>>> for me, bit dull really. E is OK (looks a bit coy) but so far my
>> >>>> favourite is D as its simple, cute, recognisable and I don't have any
>> >>>> negative feelings towards it (unlike most of the others really).
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 25 March 2011 10:37, Claus Ibsen<cl...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>> >>>>> Hi
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I dislike the A,B and C proposals.
>> >>>>> Especially the first two A and B, looks much more like horses than
>> camels.
>> >>>>> For me personally I think its important that the hump on the Camel
>> is
>> >>>>> in the logo.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> So far I like the old logo the best.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Debbie from FuseSource marketing had some sketches draw for our
>> >>>>> CamelOne event by a professional sketch firm.
>> >>>>> She said she would like to donate logos to the community and pay for
>> >>>>> any changes we would like.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> She had sketched the following 3 camels.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> D:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel01.jpg
>> >>>>> E:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel02.jpg
>> >>>>> F:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel04.jpg
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Maybe any of those or the cartoonish style it impose could be
>> usable.
>> >>>>> The Apache Camel text logo should of course be added.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea<hz...@gmail.com>
>>  wrote:
>> >>>>>> Hi Camel Riders,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> With camel-2.7.0 out of the way I believe it's time to continue the
>> improvements of the camel site design [1].
>> >>>>>> I will start a separate thread for documentation/manual and keep
>> this thread for the logo and css.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> We have already a few contributions and I don't think other
>> contributors will step up with new proposals, so I'd propose choosing from
>> what we have, which are of great quality already. So before we go to a poll
>> or vote I would highly appreciate your input on what logo would be best for
>> the camel project.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> We have a few proposals so far:
>> >>>>>> A.
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>> >>>>>> B.
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic2.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>> >>>>>> C.
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/dvichot-camel-logo.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1296745441000
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Since there are a few versions in each of the attachments above
>> please specify your preference as combination of letter and number (in the
>> last one they are not numbered, so let's use 1-3 left to right on the top
>> row and 4 for the one on the bottom row). If it matters my favorites are C3
>> and C1, in that order.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> If you believe something can be improved, like color, font (style,
>> size and placement), please feel free to add your suggestion. I believe the
>> original authors (or somebody) will be able to make the improvements.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>> Hadrian
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> [1]
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Site+Update+Ideas
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> Claus Ibsen
>> >>>>> -----------------
>> >>>>> FuseSource
>> >>>>> Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
>> >>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>> >>>>> Twitter: davsclaus
>> >>>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
>> >>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> James
>> >>>> -------
>> >>>> FuseSource
>> >>>> Email: james@fusesource.com
>> >>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>> >>>> Twitter: jstrachan
>> >>>> Blog: http://macstrac.blogspot.com/
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Open Source Integration
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Willem
>> > ----------------------------------
>> > FuseSource
>> > Web: http://www.fusesource.com
>> > Blog:    http://willemjiang.blogspot.com (English)
>> >         http://jnn.javaeye.com (Chinese)
>> > Twitter: willemjiang
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Jon
> ---------------
> FuseSource
> Email: jon@fusesource.com
> Web: fusesource.com
> Twitter: jon_anstey
> Blog: http://janstey.blogspot.com
>  Author of Camel in Action: http://manning.com/ibsen
>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Jon Anstey <ja...@gmail.com>.

Looks great! I wonder does it look better with apache and camel over 2
lines?

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Rob Davies <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Here's one from the artist with Apache Camel next to the cartoon camel - If
> you want the text smaller, or below the Camel let me know
>
>
>
> On 25 Mar 2011, at 13:39, Willem Jiang wrote:
>
> > +1 for D, and we could also add "Apache Camel" in the blow of the log.
> >
> > Willem
> >
> > On 3/25/11 9:29 PM, Charles Moulliard wrote:
> >> Hi Hadrian,
> >>
> >> D is also my favorite but we should reduce the size as this camel is
> >> too elongated.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Charles
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea<hz...@gmail.com>
>  wrote:
> >>> I like D too. I am also glad to be proven wrong and have new
> submissions. Go Debbie.
> >>>
> >>> What about something in the style of the apache aries logo (but with a
> camel, obviously) ?
> >>> http://aries.apache.org
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Hadrian
> >>>
> >>> PS. Before pressing 'Send' I tool a few minutes to look at the logos
> again, and I like D even more.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mar 25, 2011, at 6:50 AM, James Strachan wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> quick answer: D
> >>>>
> >>>> longer answer:
> >>>>
> >>>> I tend to agree; A looks very mean&  angry, B looks a bit disturbed or
> >>>> has some kind of problem and C looks a bit badly drawn :). None are
> >>>> improvements IMHO.
> >>>>
> >>>> From Debbie's submissions I don't like F either, doesn't do anything
> >>>> for me, bit dull really. E is OK (looks a bit coy) but so far my
> >>>> favourite is D as its simple, cute, recognisable and I don't have any
> >>>> negative feelings towards it (unlike most of the others really).
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 25 March 2011 10:37, Claus Ibsen<cl...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> >>>>> Hi
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I dislike the A,B and C proposals.
> >>>>> Especially the first two A and B, looks much more like horses than
> camels.
> >>>>> For me personally I think its important that the hump on the Camel is
> >>>>> in the logo.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So far I like the old logo the best.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Debbie from FuseSource marketing had some sketches draw for our
> >>>>> CamelOne event by a professional sketch firm.
> >>>>> She said she would like to donate logos to the community and pay for
> >>>>> any changes we would like.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> She had sketched the following 3 camels.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> D:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel01.jpg
> >>>>> E:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel02.jpg
> >>>>> F:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel04.jpg
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Maybe any of those or the cartoonish style it impose could be usable.
> >>>>> The Apache Camel text logo should of course be added.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea<hz...@gmail.com>
>  wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi Camel Riders,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> With camel-2.7.0 out of the way I believe it's time to continue the
> improvements of the camel site design [1].
> >>>>>> I will start a separate thread for documentation/manual and keep
> this thread for the logo and css.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We have already a few contributions and I don't think other
> contributors will step up with new proposals, so I'd propose choosing from
> what we have, which are of great quality already. So before we go to a poll
> or vote I would highly appreciate your input on what logo would be best for
> the camel project.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We have a few proposals so far:
> >>>>>> A.
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
> >>>>>> B.
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic2.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
> >>>>>> C.
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/dvichot-camel-logo.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1296745441000
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Since there are a few versions in each of the attachments above
> please specify your preference as combination of letter and number (in the
> last one they are not numbered, so let's use 1-3 left to right on the top
> row and 4 for the one on the bottom row). If it matters my favorites are C3
> and C1, in that order.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If you believe something can be improved, like color, font (style,
> size and placement), please feel free to add your suggestion. I believe the
> original authors (or somebody) will be able to make the improvements.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>> Hadrian
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [1]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Site+Update+Ideas
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Claus Ibsen
> >>>>> -----------------
> >>>>> FuseSource
> >>>>> Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
> >>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
> >>>>> Twitter: davsclaus
> >>>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
> >>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> James
> >>>> -------
> >>>> FuseSource
> >>>> Email: james@fusesource.com
> >>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
> >>>> Twitter: jstrachan
> >>>> Blog: http://macstrac.blogspot.com/
> >>>>
> >>>> Open Source Integration
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Willem
> > ----------------------------------
> > FuseSource
> > Web: http://www.fusesource.com
> > Blog:    http://willemjiang.blogspot.com (English)
> >         http://jnn.javaeye.com (Chinese)
> > Twitter: willemjiang
>
>
>


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Jon
---------------
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Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Donald Whytock <dw...@gmail.com>.

FWIW, I like this one.  It reminds me of camels in Terry Pratchett
books...serene, superior, ridiculously intelligent, and not above
spitting in your eye.

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Rob Davies <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here's one from the artist with Apache Camel next to the cartoon camel - If you want the text smaller, or below the Camel let me know
>
>
>
> On 25 Mar 2011, at 13:39, Willem Jiang wrote:
>
>> +1 for D, and we could also add "Apache Camel" in the blow of the log.
>>
>> Willem
>>
>> On 3/25/11 9:29 PM, Charles Moulliard wrote:
>>> Hi Hadrian,
>>>
>>> D is also my favorite but we should reduce the size as this camel is
>>> too elongated.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Charles
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea<hz...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>> I like D too. I am also glad to be proven wrong and have new submissions. Go Debbie.
>>>>
>>>> What about something in the style of the apache aries logo (but with a camel, obviously) ?
>>>> http://aries.apache.org
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Hadrian
>>>>
>>>> PS. Before pressing 'Send' I tool a few minutes to look at the logos again, and I like D even more.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 25, 2011, at 6:50 AM, James Strachan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> quick answer: D
>>>>>
>>>>> longer answer:
>>>>>
>>>>> I tend to agree; A looks very mean&  angry, B looks a bit disturbed or
>>>>> has some kind of problem and C looks a bit badly drawn :). None are
>>>>> improvements IMHO.
>>>>>
>>>>> From Debbie's submissions I don't like F either, doesn't do anything
>>>>> for me, bit dull really. E is OK (looks a bit coy) but so far my
>>>>> favourite is D as its simple, cute, recognisable and I don't have any
>>>>> negative feelings towards it (unlike most of the others really).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 25 March 2011 10:37, Claus Ibsen<cl...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I dislike the A,B and C proposals.
>>>>>> Especially the first two A and B, looks much more like horses than camels.
>>>>>> For me personally I think its important that the hump on the Camel is
>>>>>> in the logo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So far I like the old logo the best.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Debbie from FuseSource marketing had some sketches draw for our
>>>>>> CamelOne event by a professional sketch firm.
>>>>>> She said she would like to donate logos to the community and pay for
>>>>>> any changes we would like.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She had sketched the following 3 camels.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> D: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel01.jpg
>>>>>> E: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel02.jpg
>>>>>> F: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel04.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe any of those or the cartoonish style it impose could be usable.
>>>>>> The Apache Camel text logo should of course be added.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea<hz...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Camel Riders,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With camel-2.7.0 out of the way I believe it's time to continue the improvements of the camel site design [1].
>>>>>>> I will start a separate thread for documentation/manual and keep this thread for the logo and css.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have already a few contributions and I don't think other contributors will step up with new proposals, so I'd propose choosing from what we have, which are of great quality already. So before we go to a poll or vote I would highly appreciate your input on what logo would be best for the camel project.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have a few proposals so far:
>>>>>>> A. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>>>>>> B. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic2.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>>>>>> C. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/dvichot-camel-logo.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1296745441000
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since there are a few versions in each of the attachments above please specify your preference as combination of letter and number (in the last one they are not numbered, so let's use 1-3 left to right on the top row and 4 for the one on the bottom row). If it matters my favorites are C3 and C1, in that order.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you believe something can be improved, like color, font (style, size and placement), please feel free to add your suggestion. I believe the original authors (or somebody) will be able to make the improvements.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Hadrian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Site+Update+Ideas
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Claus Ibsen
>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>> FuseSource
>>>>>> Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
>>>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>>>>> Twitter: davsclaus
>>>>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
>>>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> James
>>>>> -------
>>>>> FuseSource
>>>>> Email: james@fusesource.com
>>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>>>> Twitter: jstrachan
>>>>> Blog: http://macstrac.blogspot.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> Open Source Integration
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Willem
>> ----------------------------------
>> FuseSource
>> Web: http://www.fusesource.com
>> Blog:    http://willemjiang.blogspot.com (English)
>>         http://jnn.javaeye.com (Chinese)
>> Twitter: willemjiang
>
>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Christian Schneider <ch...@die-schneider.net>.

I also like this one

+1


Am 25.03.2011 22:16, schrieb Rob Davies:
> Here's one from the artist with Apache Camel next to the cartoon camel - If you want the text smaller, or below the Camel let me know
>
>
>
>
> On 25 Mar 2011, at 13:39, Willem Jiang wrote:
>
>> +1 for D, and we could also add "Apache Camel" in the blow of the log.
>>
>> Willem
>>
>> On 3/25/11 9:29 PM, Charles Moulliard wrote:
>>> Hi Hadrian,
>>>
>>> D is also my favorite but we should reduce the size as this camel is
>>> too elongated.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Charles
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea<hz...@gmail.com>   wrote:
>>>> I like D too. I am also glad to be proven wrong and have new submissions. Go Debbie.
>>>>
>>>> What about something in the style of the apache aries logo (but with a camel, obviously) ?
>>>> http://aries.apache.org
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Hadrian
>>>>
>>>> PS. Before pressing 'Send' I tool a few minutes to look at the logos again, and I like D even more.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 25, 2011, at 6:50 AM, James Strachan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> quick answer: D
>>>>>
>>>>> longer answer:
>>>>>
>>>>> I tend to agree; A looks very mean&   angry, B looks a bit disturbed or
>>>>> has some kind of problem and C looks a bit badly drawn :). None are
>>>>> improvements IMHO.
>>>>>
>>>>>  From Debbie's submissions I don't like F either, doesn't do anything
>>>>> for me, bit dull really. E is OK (looks a bit coy) but so far my
>>>>> favourite is D as its simple, cute, recognisable and I don't have any
>>>>> negative feelings towards it (unlike most of the others really).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 25 March 2011 10:37, Claus Ibsen<cl...@gmail.com>   wrote:
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I dislike the A,B and C proposals.
>>>>>> Especially the first two A and B, looks much more like horses than camels.
>>>>>> For me personally I think its important that the hump on the Camel is
>>>>>> in the logo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So far I like the old logo the best.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Debbie from FuseSource marketing had some sketches draw for our
>>>>>> CamelOne event by a professional sketch firm.
>>>>>> She said she would like to donate logos to the community and pay for
>>>>>> any changes we would like.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She had sketched the following 3 camels.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> D: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel01.jpg
>>>>>> E: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel02.jpg
>>>>>> F: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel04.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe any of those or the cartoonish style it impose could be usable.
>>>>>> The Apache Camel text logo should of course be added.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea<hz...@gmail.com>   wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Camel Riders,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With camel-2.7.0 out of the way I believe it's time to continue the improvements of the camel site design [1].
>>>>>>> I will start a separate thread for documentation/manual and keep this thread for the logo and css.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have already a few contributions and I don't think other contributors will step up with new proposals, so I'd propose choosing from what we have, which are of great quality already. So before we go to a poll or vote I would highly appreciate your input on what logo would be best for the camel project.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have a few proposals so far:
>>>>>>> A. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>>>>>> B. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic2.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>>>>>> C. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/dvichot-camel-logo.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1296745441000
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since there are a few versions in each of the attachments above please specify your preference as combination of letter and number (in the last one they are not numbered, so let's use 1-3 left to right on the top row and 4 for the one on the bottom row). If it matters my favorites are C3 and C1, in that order.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you believe something can be improved, like color, font (style, size and placement), please feel free to add your suggestion. I believe the original authors (or somebody) will be able to make the improvements.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Hadrian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Site+Update+Ideas
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Claus Ibsen
>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>> FuseSource
>>>>>> Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
>>>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>>>>> Twitter: davsclaus
>>>>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
>>>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> James
>>>>> -------
>>>>> FuseSource
>>>>> Email: james@fusesource.com
>>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>>>> Twitter: jstrachan
>>>>> Blog: http://macstrac.blogspot.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> Open Source Integration
>>>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Willem
>> ----------------------------------
>> FuseSource
>> Web: http://www.fusesource.com
>> Blog:    http://willemjiang.blogspot.com (English)
>>          http://jnn.javaeye.com (Chinese)
>> Twitter: willemjiang

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Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Rob Davies <ra...@gmail.com>.

Here's one from the artist with Apache Camel next to the cartoon camel - If you want the text smaller, or below the Camel let me know

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com>.

+1 for D, and we could also add "Apache Camel" in the blow of the log.

Willem

On 3/25/11 9:29 PM, Charles Moulliard wrote:
> Hi Hadrian,
>
> D is also my favorite but we should reduce the size as this camel is
> too elongated.
>
> Regards,
>
> Charles
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea<hz...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>> I like D too. I am also glad to be proven wrong and have new submissions. Go Debbie.
>>
>> What about something in the style of the apache aries logo (but with a camel, obviously) ?
>> http://aries.apache.org
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Hadrian
>>
>> PS. Before pressing 'Send' I tool a few minutes to look at the logos again, and I like D even more.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 25, 2011, at 6:50 AM, James Strachan wrote:
>>
>>> quick answer: D
>>>
>>> longer answer:
>>>
>>> I tend to agree; A looks very mean&  angry, B looks a bit disturbed or
>>> has some kind of problem and C looks a bit badly drawn :). None are
>>> improvements IMHO.
>>>
>>>  From Debbie's submissions I don't like F either, doesn't do anything
>>> for me, bit dull really. E is OK (looks a bit coy) but so far my
>>> favourite is D as its simple, cute, recognisable and I don't have any
>>> negative feelings towards it (unlike most of the others really).
>>>
>>>
>>> On 25 March 2011 10:37, Claus Ibsen<cl...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> I dislike the A,B and C proposals.
>>>> Especially the first two A and B, looks much more like horses than camels.
>>>> For me personally I think its important that the hump on the Camel is
>>>> in the logo.
>>>>
>>>> So far I like the old logo the best.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Debbie from FuseSource marketing had some sketches draw for our
>>>> CamelOne event by a professional sketch firm.
>>>> She said she would like to donate logos to the community and pay for
>>>> any changes we would like.
>>>>
>>>> She had sketched the following 3 camels.
>>>>
>>>> D: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel01.jpg
>>>> E: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel02.jpg
>>>> F: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel04.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Maybe any of those or the cartoonish style it impose could be usable.
>>>> The Apache Camel text logo should of course be added.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea<hz...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>> Hi Camel Riders,
>>>>>
>>>>> With camel-2.7.0 out of the way I believe it's time to continue the improvements of the camel site design [1].
>>>>> I will start a separate thread for documentation/manual and keep this thread for the logo and css.
>>>>>
>>>>> We have already a few contributions and I don't think other contributors will step up with new proposals, so I'd propose choosing from what we have, which are of great quality already. So before we go to a poll or vote I would highly appreciate your input on what logo would be best for the camel project.
>>>>>
>>>>> We have a few proposals so far:
>>>>> A. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>>>> B. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic2.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>>>> C. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/dvichot-camel-logo.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1296745441000
>>>>>
>>>>> Since there are a few versions in each of the attachments above please specify your preference as combination of letter and number (in the last one they are not numbered, so let's use 1-3 left to right on the top row and 4 for the one on the bottom row). If it matters my favorites are C3 and C1, in that order.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you believe something can be improved, like color, font (style, size and placement), please feel free to add your suggestion. I believe the original authors (or somebody) will be able to make the improvements.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Hadrian
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Site+Update+Ideas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Claus Ibsen
>>>> -----------------
>>>> FuseSource
>>>> Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>>> Twitter: davsclaus
>>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> James
>>> -------
>>> FuseSource
>>> Email: james@fusesource.com
>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>> Twitter: jstrachan
>>> Blog: http://macstrac.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>> Open Source Integration
>>
>>
>


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----------------------------------
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Blog:    http://willemjiang.blogspot.com (English)
          http://jnn.javaeye.com (Chinese)
Twitter: willemjiang

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Charles Moulliard <cm...@gmail.com>.

Hi Hadrian,

D is also my favorite but we should reduce the size as this camel is
too elongated.

Regards,

Charles


On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I like D too. I am also glad to be proven wrong and have new submissions. Go Debbie.
>
> What about something in the style of the apache aries logo (but with a camel, obviously) ?
> http://aries.apache.org
>
> Cheers,
> Hadrian
>
> PS. Before pressing 'Send' I tool a few minutes to look at the logos again, and I like D even more.
>
>
>
> On Mar 25, 2011, at 6:50 AM, James Strachan wrote:
>
>> quick answer: D
>>
>> longer answer:
>>
>> I tend to agree; A looks very mean & angry, B looks a bit disturbed or
>> has some kind of problem and C looks a bit badly drawn :). None are
>> improvements IMHO.
>>
>> From Debbie's submissions I don't like F either, doesn't do anything
>> for me, bit dull really. E is OK (looks a bit coy) but so far my
>> favourite is D as its simple, cute, recognisable and I don't have any
>> negative feelings towards it (unlike most of the others really).
>>
>>
>> On 25 March 2011 10:37, Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I dislike the A,B and C proposals.
>>> Especially the first two A and B, looks much more like horses than camels.
>>> For me personally I think its important that the hump on the Camel is
>>> in the logo.
>>>
>>> So far I like the old logo the best.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Debbie from FuseSource marketing had some sketches draw for our
>>> CamelOne event by a professional sketch firm.
>>> She said she would like to donate logos to the community and pay for
>>> any changes we would like.
>>>
>>> She had sketched the following 3 camels.
>>>
>>> D: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel01.jpg
>>> E: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel02.jpg
>>> F: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel04.jpg
>>>
>>> Maybe any of those or the cartoonish style it impose could be usable.
>>> The Apache Camel text logo should of course be added.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Camel Riders,
>>>>
>>>> With camel-2.7.0 out of the way I believe it's time to continue the improvements of the camel site design [1].
>>>> I will start a separate thread for documentation/manual and keep this thread for the logo and css.
>>>>
>>>> We have already a few contributions and I don't think other contributors will step up with new proposals, so I'd propose choosing from what we have, which are of great quality already. So before we go to a poll or vote I would highly appreciate your input on what logo would be best for the camel project.
>>>>
>>>> We have a few proposals so far:
>>>> A. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>>> B. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic2.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>>> C. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/dvichot-camel-logo.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1296745441000
>>>>
>>>> Since there are a few versions in each of the attachments above please specify your preference as combination of letter and number (in the last one they are not numbered, so let's use 1-3 left to right on the top row and 4 for the one on the bottom row). If it matters my favorites are C3 and C1, in that order.
>>>>
>>>> If you believe something can be improved, like color, font (style, size and placement), please feel free to add your suggestion. I believe the original authors (or somebody) will be able to make the improvements.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Hadrian
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Site+Update+Ideas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Claus Ibsen
>>> -----------------
>>> FuseSource
>>> Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>> Twitter: davsclaus
>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> James
>> -------
>> FuseSource
>> Email: james@fusesource.com
>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>> Twitter: jstrachan
>> Blog: http://macstrac.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Open Source Integration
>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com>.

I like D too. I am also glad to be proven wrong and have new submissions. Go Debbie.

What about something in the style of the apache aries logo (but with a camel, obviously) ? 
http://aries.apache.org

Cheers,
Hadrian

PS. Before pressing 'Send' I tool a few minutes to look at the logos again, and I like D even more.



On Mar 25, 2011, at 6:50 AM, James Strachan wrote:

> quick answer: D
> 
> longer answer:
> 
> I tend to agree; A looks very mean & angry, B looks a bit disturbed or
> has some kind of problem and C looks a bit badly drawn :). None are
> improvements IMHO.
> 
> From Debbie's submissions I don't like F either, doesn't do anything
> for me, bit dull really. E is OK (looks a bit coy) but so far my
> favourite is D as its simple, cute, recognisable and I don't have any
> negative feelings towards it (unlike most of the others really).
> 
> 
> On 25 March 2011 10:37, Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi
>> 
>> I dislike the A,B and C proposals.
>> Especially the first two A and B, looks much more like horses than camels.
>> For me personally I think its important that the hump on the Camel is
>> in the logo.
>> 
>> So far I like the old logo the best.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Debbie from FuseSource marketing had some sketches draw for our
>> CamelOne event by a professional sketch firm.
>> She said she would like to donate logos to the community and pay for
>> any changes we would like.
>> 
>> She had sketched the following 3 camels.
>> 
>> D: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel01.jpg
>> E: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel02.jpg
>> F: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel04.jpg
>> 
>> Maybe any of those or the cartoonish style it impose could be usable.
>> The Apache Camel text logo should of course be added.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Camel Riders,
>>> 
>>> With camel-2.7.0 out of the way I believe it's time to continue the improvements of the camel site design [1].
>>> I will start a separate thread for documentation/manual and keep this thread for the logo and css.
>>> 
>>> We have already a few contributions and I don't think other contributors will step up with new proposals, so I'd propose choosing from what we have, which are of great quality already. So before we go to a poll or vote I would highly appreciate your input on what logo would be best for the camel project.
>>> 
>>> We have a few proposals so far:
>>> A. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>> B. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic2.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>> C. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/dvichot-camel-logo.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1296745441000
>>> 
>>> Since there are a few versions in each of the attachments above please specify your preference as combination of letter and number (in the last one they are not numbered, so let's use 1-3 left to right on the top row and 4 for the one on the bottom row). If it matters my favorites are C3 and C1, in that order.
>>> 
>>> If you believe something can be improved, like color, font (style, size and placement), please feel free to add your suggestion. I believe the original authors (or somebody) will be able to make the improvements.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Hadrian
>>> 
>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Site+Update+Ideas
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Claus Ibsen
>> -----------------
>> FuseSource
>> Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>> Twitter: davsclaus
>> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> James
> -------
> FuseSource
> Email: james@fusesource.com
> Web: http://fusesource.com
> Twitter: jstrachan
> Blog: http://macstrac.blogspot.com/
> 
> Open Source Integration

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by James Strachan <ja...@fusesource.com>.

quick answer: D

longer answer:

I tend to agree; A looks very mean & angry, B looks a bit disturbed or
has some kind of problem and C looks a bit badly drawn :). None are
improvements IMHO.

>From Debbie's submissions I don't like F either, doesn't do anything
for me, bit dull really. E is OK (looks a bit coy) but so far my
favourite is D as its simple, cute, recognisable and I don't have any
negative feelings towards it (unlike most of the others really).


On 25 March 2011 10:37, Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I dislike the A,B and C proposals.
> Especially the first two A and B, looks much more like horses than camels.
> For me personally I think its important that the hump on the Camel is
> in the logo.
>
> So far I like the old logo the best.
>
>
>
> Debbie from FuseSource marketing had some sketches draw for our
> CamelOne event by a professional sketch firm.
> She said she would like to donate logos to the community and pay for
> any changes we would like.
>
> She had sketched the following 3 camels.
>
> D: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel01.jpg
> E: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel02.jpg
> F: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel04.jpg
>
> Maybe any of those or the cartoonish style it impose could be usable.
> The Apache Camel text logo should of course be added.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Camel Riders,
>>
>> With camel-2.7.0 out of the way I believe it's time to continue the improvements of the camel site design [1].
>> I will start a separate thread for documentation/manual and keep this thread for the logo and css.
>>
>> We have already a few contributions and I don't think other contributors will step up with new proposals, so I'd propose choosing from what we have, which are of great quality already. So before we go to a poll or vote I would highly appreciate your input on what logo would be best for the camel project.
>>
>> We have a few proposals so far:
>> A. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>> B. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic2.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>> C. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/dvichot-camel-logo.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1296745441000
>>
>> Since there are a few versions in each of the attachments above please specify your preference as combination of letter and number (in the last one they are not numbered, so let's use 1-3 left to right on the top row and 4 for the one on the bottom row). If it matters my favorites are C3 and C1, in that order.
>>
>> If you believe something can be improved, like color, font (style, size and placement), please feel free to add your suggestion. I believe the original authors (or somebody) will be able to make the improvements.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Hadrian
>>
>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Site+Update+Ideas
>
>
>
> --
> Claus Ibsen
> -----------------
> FuseSource
> Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
> Web: http://fusesource.com
> Twitter: davsclaus
> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
>



-- 
James
-------
FuseSource
Email: james@fusesource.com
Web: http://fusesource.com
Twitter: jstrachan
Blog: http://macstrac.blogspot.com/

Open Source Integration

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Rob Davies <ra...@gmail.com>.

If the community wants to use the logo - then FuseSource would of course follow the guidelines for all future use of that logo.
On 29 Mar 2011, at 07:18, Guillaume Nodet wrote:

> I think what Hadrian is thinking about is that the consequence would
> be that FuseSource's use of that logo would be governed by
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/ which says the following.
> 
> Using the Apache Foo (and similar) graphic logos:
> [...]
> You needn't ask us for permission to use Apache's graphics logos (the
> versions published on individual project's websites) on your own
> website solely as a hyperlink to the specific Apache project website
> or to www.apache.org. All other uses of Apache Foo (and similar)
> graphic logos must be approved in writing by VP, Apache Brand
> Management or a designee.
> [...]
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 08:06, Rob Davies <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hadrian - are you wearing your Apache hat when asking that question ?
>> 
>> Yes - these images are variations of the logo for the CamelOne event in May. You can compare the logo here: http://fusesource.com/camelone2011/.
>> they have been done by a professional artist - so why not submit them for consideration ?
>> 
>> From an Apache point of view you need to ask:
>> 
>> 1. Are there any trademark, copyright issues over the use of the image? (the answer is no)
>> 2. Would the community like to use them ?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> 
>> Rob
>> 
>> 
>> On 28 Mar 2011, at 19:11, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
>> 
>>> Claus,
>>> 
>>> Why did you submit a variation of a logo that is already used by your employer for commercial purposes?
>>> 
>>> Hadrian
>>> 
>>> On Mar 25, 2011, at 6:37 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi
>>>> 
>>>> I dislike the A,B and C proposals.
>>>> Especially the first two A and B, looks much more like horses than camels.
>>>> For me personally I think its important that the hump on the Camel is
>>>> in the logo.
>>>> 
>>>> So far I like the old logo the best.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Debbie from FuseSource marketing had some sketches draw for our
>>>> CamelOne event by a professional sketch firm.
>>>> She said she would like to donate logos to the community and pay for
>>>> any changes we would like.
>>>> 
>>>> She had sketched the following 3 camels.
>>>> 
>>>> D: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel01.jpg
>>>> E: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel02.jpg
>>>> F: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel04.jpg
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe any of those or the cartoonish style it impose could be usable.
>>>> The Apache Camel text logo should of course be added.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Camel Riders,
>>>>> 
>>>>> With camel-2.7.0 out of the way I believe it's time to continue the improvements of the camel site design [1].
>>>>> I will start a separate thread for documentation/manual and keep this thread for the logo and css.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We have already a few contributions and I don't think other contributors will step up with new proposals, so I'd propose choosing from what we have, which are of great quality already. So before we go to a poll or vote I would highly appreciate your input on what logo would be best for the camel project.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We have a few proposals so far:
>>>>> A. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>>>> B. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic2.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>>>> C. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/dvichot-camel-logo.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1296745441000
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since there are a few versions in each of the attachments above please specify your preference as combination of letter and number (in the last one they are not numbered, so let's use 1-3 left to right on the top row and 4 for the one on the bottom row). If it matters my favorites are C3 and C1, in that order.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you believe something can be improved, like color, font (style, size and placement), please feel free to add your suggestion. I believe the original authors (or somebody) will be able to make the improvements.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Hadrian
>>>>> 
>>>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Site+Update+Ideas
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Claus Ibsen
>>>> -----------------
>>>> FuseSource
>>>> Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>>> Twitter: davsclaus
>>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cheers,
> Guillaume Nodet
> ------------------------
> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> ------------------------
> Open Source SOA
> http://fusesource.com

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.

I think what Hadrian is thinking about is that the consequence would
be that FuseSource's use of that logo would be governed by
http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/ which says the following.

Using the Apache Foo (and similar) graphic logos:
[...]
You needn't ask us for permission to use Apache's graphics logos (the
versions published on individual project's websites) on your own
website solely as a hyperlink to the specific Apache project website
or to www.apache.org. All other uses of Apache Foo (and similar)
graphic logos must be approved in writing by VP, Apache Brand
Management or a designee.
[...]


On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 08:06, Rob Davies <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hadrian - are you wearing your Apache hat when asking that question ?
>
> Yes - these images are variations of the logo for the CamelOne event in May. You can compare the logo here: http://fusesource.com/camelone2011/.
> they have been done by a professional artist - so why not submit them for consideration ?
>
> From an Apache point of view you need to ask:
>
> 1. Are there any trademark, copyright issues over the use of the image? (the answer is no)
> 2. Would the community like to use them ?
>
> thanks.
>
> Rob
>
>
> On 28 Mar 2011, at 19:11, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
>
>> Claus,
>>
>> Why did you submit a variation of a logo that is already used by your employer for commercial purposes?
>>
>> Hadrian
>>
>> On Mar 25, 2011, at 6:37 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I dislike the A,B and C proposals.
>>> Especially the first two A and B, looks much more like horses than camels.
>>> For me personally I think its important that the hump on the Camel is
>>> in the logo.
>>>
>>> So far I like the old logo the best.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Debbie from FuseSource marketing had some sketches draw for our
>>> CamelOne event by a professional sketch firm.
>>> She said she would like to donate logos to the community and pay for
>>> any changes we would like.
>>>
>>> She had sketched the following 3 camels.
>>>
>>> D: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel01.jpg
>>> E: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel02.jpg
>>> F: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel04.jpg
>>>
>>> Maybe any of those or the cartoonish style it impose could be usable.
>>> The Apache Camel text logo should of course be added.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Camel Riders,
>>>>
>>>> With camel-2.7.0 out of the way I believe it's time to continue the improvements of the camel site design [1].
>>>> I will start a separate thread for documentation/manual and keep this thread for the logo and css.
>>>>
>>>> We have already a few contributions and I don't think other contributors will step up with new proposals, so I'd propose choosing from what we have, which are of great quality already. So before we go to a poll or vote I would highly appreciate your input on what logo would be best for the camel project.
>>>>
>>>> We have a few proposals so far:
>>>> A. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>>> B. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic2.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>>> C. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/dvichot-camel-logo.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1296745441000
>>>>
>>>> Since there are a few versions in each of the attachments above please specify your preference as combination of letter and number (in the last one they are not numbered, so let's use 1-3 left to right on the top row and 4 for the one on the bottom row). If it matters my favorites are C3 and C1, in that order.
>>>>
>>>> If you believe something can be improved, like color, font (style, size and placement), please feel free to add your suggestion. I believe the original authors (or somebody) will be able to make the improvements.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Hadrian
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Site+Update+Ideas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Claus Ibsen
>>> -----------------
>>> FuseSource
>>> Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>> Twitter: davsclaus
>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
>>
>
>



-- 
Cheers,
Guillaume Nodet
------------------------
Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
------------------------
Open Source SOA
http://fusesource.com

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Christian Müller <ch...@gmail.com>.

I like C6

Christian

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com>.

Hi

Hadrian is there any news from legal about the Apache Camel logo?


On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks. I will do so.
> Hadrian
>
>
> On Mar 29, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Rob Davies wrote:
>
>> Hadrian,
>>
>> It would be great if you could get clarification from ASF legal on the use of the logo.
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> rob
>> On 29 Mar 2011, at 14:51, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
>>
>>> Rob, I *always* wear an Apache hat on this list. And I don't appreciate cheap innuendoes. Please feel free to point to any instance in the past when it wasn't the case. Until then please choose your words carefully.
>>>
>>> The Camel project, or any project, or any organization cannot use a mark that would create confusion, registered or not. Or so I was told by an attorney friend who is not involved with ASF, but I should probably take it with the ASF legal to confirm. I am not sure how aware you are of it, but the ASF is putting more emphasis lately on enforcing the trademark policy. Trademarks compliance should also be part of the quarterly report.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Hadrian
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 29, 2011, at 2:06 AM, Rob Davies wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hadrian - are you wearing your Apache hat when asking that question ?
>>>>
>>>> Yes - these images are variations of the logo for the CamelOne event in May. You can compare the logo here: http://fusesource.com/camelone2011/.
>>>> they have been done by a professional artist - so why not submit them for consideration ?
>>>>
>>>> From an Apache point of view you need to ask:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Are there any trademark, copyright issues over the use of the image? (the answer is no)
>>>> 2. Would the community like to use them ?
>>>>
>>>> thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Rob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 28 Mar 2011, at 19:11, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Claus,
>>>>>
>>>>> Why did you submit a variation of a logo that is already used by your employer for commercial purposes?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hadrian
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 25, 2011, at 6:37 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I dislike the A,B and C proposals.
>>>>>> Especially the first two A and B, looks much more like horses than camels.
>>>>>> For me personally I think its important that the hump on the Camel is
>>>>>> in the logo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So far I like the old logo the best.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Debbie from FuseSource marketing had some sketches draw for our
>>>>>> CamelOne event by a professional sketch firm.
>>>>>> She said she would like to donate logos to the community and pay for
>>>>>> any changes we would like.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She had sketched the following 3 camels.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> D: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel01.jpg
>>>>>> E: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel02.jpg
>>>>>> F: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel04.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe any of those or the cartoonish style it impose could be usable.
>>>>>> The Apache Camel text logo should of course be added.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Camel Riders,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With camel-2.7.0 out of the way I believe it's time to continue the improvements of the camel site design [1].
>>>>>>> I will start a separate thread for documentation/manual and keep this thread for the logo and css.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have already a few contributions and I don't think other contributors will step up with new proposals, so I'd propose choosing from what we have, which are of great quality already. So before we go to a poll or vote I would highly appreciate your input on what logo would be best for the camel project.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have a few proposals so far:
>>>>>>> A. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>>>>>> B. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic2.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>>>>>> C. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/dvichot-camel-logo.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1296745441000
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since there are a few versions in each of the attachments above please specify your preference as combination of letter and number (in the last one they are not numbered, so let's use 1-3 left to right on the top row and 4 for the one on the bottom row). If it matters my favorites are C3 and C1, in that order.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you believe something can be improved, like color, font (style, size and placement), please feel free to add your suggestion. I believe the original authors (or somebody) will be able to make the improvements.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Hadrian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Site+Update+Ideas
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Claus Ibsen
>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>> FuseSource
>>>>>> Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
>>>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>>>>> Twitter: davsclaus
>>>>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
>>>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>



-- 
Claus Ibsen
-----------------
FuseSource
Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
Web: http://fusesource.com
Twitter: davsclaus, fusenews
Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com>.

Thanks. I will do so. 
Hadrian


On Mar 29, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Rob Davies wrote:

> Hadrian,
> 
> It would be great if you could get clarification from ASF legal on the use of the logo.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> rob
> On 29 Mar 2011, at 14:51, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
> 
>> Rob, I *always* wear an Apache hat on this list. And I don't appreciate cheap innuendoes. Please feel free to point to any instance in the past when it wasn't the case. Until then please choose your words carefully.
>> 
>> The Camel project, or any project, or any organization cannot use a mark that would create confusion, registered or not. Or so I was told by an attorney friend who is not involved with ASF, but I should probably take it with the ASF legal to confirm. I am not sure how aware you are of it, but the ASF is putting more emphasis lately on enforcing the trademark policy. Trademarks compliance should also be part of the quarterly report.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Hadrian
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 29, 2011, at 2:06 AM, Rob Davies wrote:
>> 
>>> Hadrian - are you wearing your Apache hat when asking that question ?
>>> 
>>> Yes - these images are variations of the logo for the CamelOne event in May. You can compare the logo here: http://fusesource.com/camelone2011/. 
>>> they have been done by a professional artist - so why not submit them for consideration ?
>>> 
>>> From an Apache point of view you need to ask:
>>> 
>>> 1. Are there any trademark, copyright issues over the use of the image? (the answer is no)
>>> 2. Would the community like to use them ?
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> 
>>> Rob
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 28 Mar 2011, at 19:11, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Claus,
>>>> 
>>>> Why did you submit a variation of a logo that is already used by your employer for commercial purposes?
>>>> 
>>>> Hadrian
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 25, 2011, at 6:37 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi
>>>>> 
>>>>> I dislike the A,B and C proposals.
>>>>> Especially the first two A and B, looks much more like horses than camels.
>>>>> For me personally I think its important that the hump on the Camel is
>>>>> in the logo.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So far I like the old logo the best.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Debbie from FuseSource marketing had some sketches draw for our
>>>>> CamelOne event by a professional sketch firm.
>>>>> She said she would like to donate logos to the community and pay for
>>>>> any changes we would like.
>>>>> 
>>>>> She had sketched the following 3 camels.
>>>>> 
>>>>> D: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel01.jpg
>>>>> E: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel02.jpg
>>>>> F: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel04.jpg
>>>>> 
>>>>> Maybe any of those or the cartoonish style it impose could be usable.
>>>>> The Apache Camel text logo should of course be added.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Camel Riders,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> With camel-2.7.0 out of the way I believe it's time to continue the improvements of the camel site design [1].
>>>>>> I will start a separate thread for documentation/manual and keep this thread for the logo and css.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We have already a few contributions and I don't think other contributors will step up with new proposals, so I'd propose choosing from what we have, which are of great quality already. So before we go to a poll or vote I would highly appreciate your input on what logo would be best for the camel project.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We have a few proposals so far:
>>>>>> A. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>>>>> B. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic2.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>>>>> C. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/dvichot-camel-logo.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1296745441000
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Since there are a few versions in each of the attachments above please specify your preference as combination of letter and number (in the last one they are not numbered, so let's use 1-3 left to right on the top row and 4 for the one on the bottom row). If it matters my favorites are C3 and C1, in that order.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you believe something can be improved, like color, font (style, size and placement), please feel free to add your suggestion. I believe the original authors (or somebody) will be able to make the improvements.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Hadrian
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Site+Update+Ideas
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Claus Ibsen
>>>>> -----------------
>>>>> FuseSource
>>>>> Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
>>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>>>> Twitter: davsclaus
>>>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
>>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Rob Davies <ra...@gmail.com>.

Hadrian,

It would be great if you could get clarification from ASF legal on the use of the logo.

thanks,

rob
On 29 Mar 2011, at 14:51, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:

> Rob, I *always* wear an Apache hat on this list. And I don't appreciate cheap innuendoes. Please feel free to point to any instance in the past when it wasn't the case. Until then please choose your words carefully.
> 
> The Camel project, or any project, or any organization cannot use a mark that would create confusion, registered or not. Or so I was told by an attorney friend who is not involved with ASF, but I should probably take it with the ASF legal to confirm. I am not sure how aware you are of it, but the ASF is putting more emphasis lately on enforcing the trademark policy. Trademarks compliance should also be part of the quarterly report.
> 
> Cheers,
> Hadrian
> 
> 
> On Mar 29, 2011, at 2:06 AM, Rob Davies wrote:
> 
>> Hadrian - are you wearing your Apache hat when asking that question ?
>> 
>> Yes - these images are variations of the logo for the CamelOne event in May. You can compare the logo here: http://fusesource.com/camelone2011/. 
>> they have been done by a professional artist - so why not submit them for consideration ?
>> 
>> From an Apache point of view you need to ask:
>> 
>> 1. Are there any trademark, copyright issues over the use of the image? (the answer is no)
>> 2. Would the community like to use them ?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> 
>> Rob
>> 
>> 
>> On 28 Mar 2011, at 19:11, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
>> 
>>> Claus,
>>> 
>>> Why did you submit a variation of a logo that is already used by your employer for commercial purposes?
>>> 
>>> Hadrian
>>> 
>>> On Mar 25, 2011, at 6:37 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi
>>>> 
>>>> I dislike the A,B and C proposals.
>>>> Especially the first two A and B, looks much more like horses than camels.
>>>> For me personally I think its important that the hump on the Camel is
>>>> in the logo.
>>>> 
>>>> So far I like the old logo the best.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Debbie from FuseSource marketing had some sketches draw for our
>>>> CamelOne event by a professional sketch firm.
>>>> She said she would like to donate logos to the community and pay for
>>>> any changes we would like.
>>>> 
>>>> She had sketched the following 3 camels.
>>>> 
>>>> D: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel01.jpg
>>>> E: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel02.jpg
>>>> F: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel04.jpg
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe any of those or the cartoonish style it impose could be usable.
>>>> The Apache Camel text logo should of course be added.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Camel Riders,
>>>>> 
>>>>> With camel-2.7.0 out of the way I believe it's time to continue the improvements of the camel site design [1].
>>>>> I will start a separate thread for documentation/manual and keep this thread for the logo and css.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We have already a few contributions and I don't think other contributors will step up with new proposals, so I'd propose choosing from what we have, which are of great quality already. So before we go to a poll or vote I would highly appreciate your input on what logo would be best for the camel project.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We have a few proposals so far:
>>>>> A. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>>>> B. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic2.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>>>> C. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/dvichot-camel-logo.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1296745441000
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since there are a few versions in each of the attachments above please specify your preference as combination of letter and number (in the last one they are not numbered, so let's use 1-3 left to right on the top row and 4 for the one on the bottom row). If it matters my favorites are C3 and C1, in that order.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you believe something can be improved, like color, font (style, size and placement), please feel free to add your suggestion. I believe the original authors (or somebody) will be able to make the improvements.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Hadrian
>>>>> 
>>>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Site+Update+Ideas
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Claus Ibsen
>>>> -----------------
>>>> FuseSource
>>>> Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>>> Twitter: davsclaus
>>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
>>> 
>> 
>

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com>.

Rob, I *always* wear an Apache hat on this list. And I don't appreciate cheap innuendoes. Please feel free to point to any instance in the past when it wasn't the case. Until then please choose your words carefully.

The Camel project, or any project, or any organization cannot use a mark that would create confusion, registered or not. Or so I was told by an attorney friend who is not involved with ASF, but I should probably take it with the ASF legal to confirm. I am not sure how aware you are of it, but the ASF is putting more emphasis lately on enforcing the trademark policy. Trademarks compliance should also be part of the quarterly report.

Cheers,
Hadrian


On Mar 29, 2011, at 2:06 AM, Rob Davies wrote:

> Hadrian - are you wearing your Apache hat when asking that question ?
> 
> Yes - these images are variations of the logo for the CamelOne event in May. You can compare the logo here: http://fusesource.com/camelone2011/. 
> they have been done by a professional artist - so why not submit them for consideration ?
> 
> From an Apache point of view you need to ask:
> 
> 1. Are there any trademark, copyright issues over the use of the image? (the answer is no)
> 2. Would the community like to use them ?
> 
> thanks.
> 
> Rob
> 
> 
> On 28 Mar 2011, at 19:11, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
> 
>> Claus,
>> 
>> Why did you submit a variation of a logo that is already used by your employer for commercial purposes?
>> 
>> Hadrian
>> 
>> On Mar 25, 2011, at 6:37 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> I dislike the A,B and C proposals.
>>> Especially the first two A and B, looks much more like horses than camels.
>>> For me personally I think its important that the hump on the Camel is
>>> in the logo.
>>> 
>>> So far I like the old logo the best.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Debbie from FuseSource marketing had some sketches draw for our
>>> CamelOne event by a professional sketch firm.
>>> She said she would like to donate logos to the community and pay for
>>> any changes we would like.
>>> 
>>> She had sketched the following 3 camels.
>>> 
>>> D: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel01.jpg
>>> E: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel02.jpg
>>> F: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel04.jpg
>>> 
>>> Maybe any of those or the cartoonish style it impose could be usable.
>>> The Apache Camel text logo should of course be added.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Camel Riders,
>>>> 
>>>> With camel-2.7.0 out of the way I believe it's time to continue the improvements of the camel site design [1].
>>>> I will start a separate thread for documentation/manual and keep this thread for the logo and css.
>>>> 
>>>> We have already a few contributions and I don't think other contributors will step up with new proposals, so I'd propose choosing from what we have, which are of great quality already. So before we go to a poll or vote I would highly appreciate your input on what logo would be best for the camel project.
>>>> 
>>>> We have a few proposals so far:
>>>> A. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>>> B. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic2.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>>> C. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/dvichot-camel-logo.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1296745441000
>>>> 
>>>> Since there are a few versions in each of the attachments above please specify your preference as combination of letter and number (in the last one they are not numbered, so let's use 1-3 left to right on the top row and 4 for the one on the bottom row). If it matters my favorites are C3 and C1, in that order.
>>>> 
>>>> If you believe something can be improved, like color, font (style, size and placement), please feel free to add your suggestion. I believe the original authors (or somebody) will be able to make the improvements.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Hadrian
>>>> 
>>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Site+Update+Ideas
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Claus Ibsen
>>> -----------------
>>> FuseSource
>>> Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>> Twitter: davsclaus
>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
>> 
>

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Rob Davies <ra...@gmail.com>.

Hadrian - are you wearing your Apache hat when asking that question ?

Yes - these images are variations of the logo for the CamelOne event in May. You can compare the logo here: http://fusesource.com/camelone2011/. 
they have been done by a professional artist - so why not submit them for consideration ?

From an Apache point of view you need to ask:

1. Are there any trademark, copyright issues over the use of the image? (the answer is no)
2. Would the community like to use them ?

thanks.

Rob


On 28 Mar 2011, at 19:11, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:

> Claus,
> 
> Why did you submit a variation of a logo that is already used by your employer for commercial purposes?
> 
> Hadrian
> 
> On Mar 25, 2011, at 6:37 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> I dislike the A,B and C proposals.
>> Especially the first two A and B, looks much more like horses than camels.
>> For me personally I think its important that the hump on the Camel is
>> in the logo.
>> 
>> So far I like the old logo the best.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Debbie from FuseSource marketing had some sketches draw for our
>> CamelOne event by a professional sketch firm.
>> She said she would like to donate logos to the community and pay for
>> any changes we would like.
>> 
>> She had sketched the following 3 camels.
>> 
>> D: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel01.jpg
>> E: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel02.jpg
>> F: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel04.jpg
>> 
>> Maybe any of those or the cartoonish style it impose could be usable.
>> The Apache Camel text logo should of course be added.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Camel Riders,
>>> 
>>> With camel-2.7.0 out of the way I believe it's time to continue the improvements of the camel site design [1].
>>> I will start a separate thread for documentation/manual and keep this thread for the logo and css.
>>> 
>>> We have already a few contributions and I don't think other contributors will step up with new proposals, so I'd propose choosing from what we have, which are of great quality already. So before we go to a poll or vote I would highly appreciate your input on what logo would be best for the camel project.
>>> 
>>> We have a few proposals so far:
>>> A. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>> B. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic2.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>>> C. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/dvichot-camel-logo.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1296745441000
>>> 
>>> Since there are a few versions in each of the attachments above please specify your preference as combination of letter and number (in the last one they are not numbered, so let's use 1-3 left to right on the top row and 4 for the one on the bottom row). If it matters my favorites are C3 and C1, in that order.
>>> 
>>> If you believe something can be improved, like color, font (style, size and placement), please feel free to add your suggestion. I believe the original authors (or somebody) will be able to make the improvements.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Hadrian
>>> 
>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Site+Update+Ideas
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Claus Ibsen
>> -----------------
>> FuseSource
>> Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>> Twitter: davsclaus
>> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
>

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com>.

Claus,

Why did you submit a variation of a logo that is already used by your employer for commercial purposes?

Hadrian

On Mar 25, 2011, at 6:37 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote:

> Hi
> 
> I dislike the A,B and C proposals.
> Especially the first two A and B, looks much more like horses than camels.
> For me personally I think its important that the hump on the Camel is
> in the logo.
> 
> So far I like the old logo the best.
> 
> 
> 
> Debbie from FuseSource marketing had some sketches draw for our
> CamelOne event by a professional sketch firm.
> She said she would like to donate logos to the community and pay for
> any changes we would like.
> 
> She had sketched the following 3 camels.
> 
> D: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel01.jpg
> E: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel02.jpg
> F: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel04.jpg
> 
> Maybe any of those or the cartoonish style it impose could be usable.
> The Apache Camel text logo should of course be added.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Camel Riders,
>> 
>> With camel-2.7.0 out of the way I believe it's time to continue the improvements of the camel site design [1].
>> I will start a separate thread for documentation/manual and keep this thread for the logo and css.
>> 
>> We have already a few contributions and I don't think other contributors will step up with new proposals, so I'd propose choosing from what we have, which are of great quality already. So before we go to a poll or vote I would highly appreciate your input on what logo would be best for the camel project.
>> 
>> We have a few proposals so far:
>> A. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>> B. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic2.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
>> C. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/dvichot-camel-logo.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1296745441000
>> 
>> Since there are a few versions in each of the attachments above please specify your preference as combination of letter and number (in the last one they are not numbered, so let's use 1-3 left to right on the top row and 4 for the one on the bottom row). If it matters my favorites are C3 and C1, in that order.
>> 
>> If you believe something can be improved, like color, font (style, size and placement), please feel free to add your suggestion. I believe the original authors (or somebody) will be able to make the improvements.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Hadrian
>> 
>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Site+Update+Ideas
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Claus Ibsen
> -----------------
> FuseSource
> Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
> Web: http://fusesource.com
> Twitter: davsclaus
> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com>.

Hi

I dislike the A,B and C proposals.
Especially the first two A and B, looks much more like horses than camels.
For me personally I think its important that the hump on the Camel is
in the logo.

So far I like the old logo the best.



Debbie from FuseSource marketing had some sketches draw for our
CamelOne event by a professional sketch firm.
She said she would like to donate logos to the community and pay for
any changes we would like.

She had sketched the following 3 camels.

D: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel01.jpg
E: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel02.jpg
F: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel04.jpg

Maybe any of those or the cartoonish style it impose could be usable.
The Apache Camel text logo should of course be added.




On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Camel Riders,
>
> With camel-2.7.0 out of the way I believe it's time to continue the improvements of the camel site design [1].
> I will start a separate thread for documentation/manual and keep this thread for the logo and css.
>
> We have already a few contributions and I don't think other contributors will step up with new proposals, so I'd propose choosing from what we have, which are of great quality already. So before we go to a poll or vote I would highly appreciate your input on what logo would be best for the camel project.
>
> We have a few proposals so far:
> A. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
> B. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic2.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
> C. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/dvichot-camel-logo.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1296745441000
>
> Since there are a few versions in each of the attachments above please specify your preference as combination of letter and number (in the last one they are not numbered, so let's use 1-3 left to right on the top row and 4 for the one on the bottom row). If it matters my favorites are C3 and C1, in that order.
>
> If you believe something can be improved, like color, font (style, size and placement), please feel free to add your suggestion. I believe the original authors (or somebody) will be able to make the improvements.
>
> Thanks,
> Hadrian
>
> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Site+Update+Ideas



-- 
Claus Ibsen
-----------------
FuseSource
Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
Web: http://fusesource.com
Twitter: davsclaus
Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Björn Bength <bj...@gmail.com>.

FWIW, I like the current logo best, but from the these alternatives, I
think D is best.
Much for the reasons outlined by James.
Please don't choose an angry camel :-)
--
Björn


On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Camel Riders,
>
> With camel-2.7.0 out of the way I believe it's time to continue the improvements of the camel site design [1].
> I will start a separate thread for documentation/manual and keep this thread for the logo and css.
>
> We have already a few contributions and I don't think other contributors will step up with new proposals, so I'd propose choosing from what we have, which are of great quality already. So before we go to a poll or vote I would highly appreciate your input on what logo would be best for the camel project.
>
> We have a few proposals so far:
> A. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
> B. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic2.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
> C. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/dvichot-camel-logo.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1296745441000
>
> Since there are a few versions in each of the attachments above please specify your preference as combination of letter and number (in the last one they are not numbered, so let's use 1-3 left to right on the top row and 4 for the one on the bottom row). If it matters my favorites are C3 and C1, in that order.
>
> If you believe something can be improved, like color, font (style, size and placement), please feel free to add your suggestion. I believe the original authors (or somebody) will be able to make the improvements.
>
> Thanks,
> Hadrian
>
> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Site+Update+Ideas

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Christian Müller <ch...@gmail.com>.

A1, A3, B2 in that order...

Christian

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Martin Krasser <kr...@googlemail.com>.

A1, A3, A2, in that order.

Am 24.03.11 16:23, schrieb Hadrian Zbarcea:
> Hi Camel Riders,
>
> With camel-2.7.0 out of the way I believe it's time to continue the improvements of the camel site design [1].
> I will start a separate thread for documentation/manual and keep this thread for the logo and css.
>
> We have already a few contributions and I don't think other contributors will step up with new proposals, so I'd propose choosing from what we have, which are of great quality already. So before we go to a poll or vote I would highly appreciate your input on what logo would be best for the camel project.
>
> We have a few proposals so far:
> A. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
> B. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic2.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
> C. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/dvichot-camel-logo.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1296745441000
>
> Since there are a few versions in each of the attachments above please specify your preference as combination of letter and number (in the last one they are not numbered, so let's use 1-3 left to right on the top row and 4 for the one on the bottom row). If it matters my favorites are C3 and C1, in that order.
>
> If you believe something can be improved, like color, font (style, size and placement), please feel free to add your suggestion. I believe the original authors (or somebody) will be able to make the improvements.
>
> Thanks,
> Hadrian
>
> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Site+Update+Ideas

-- 
Martin Krasser

blog:    http://krasserm.blogspot.com
code:    http://github.com/krasserm
twitter: http://twitter.com/mrt1nz

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Charles Moulliard <cm...@gmail.com>.

I prefer the old logo or the new proposed by Debbie

-1


On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Camel Riders,
>
> With camel-2.7.0 out of the way I believe it's time to continue the improvements of the camel site design [1].
> I will start a separate thread for documentation/manual and keep this thread for the logo and css.
>
> We have already a few contributions and I don't think other contributors will step up with new proposals, so I'd propose choosing from what we have, which are of great quality already. So before we go to a poll or vote I would highly appreciate your input on what logo would be best for the camel project.
>
> We have a few proposals so far:
> A. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
> B. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic2.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
> C. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/dvichot-camel-logo.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1296745441000
>
> Since there are a few versions in each of the attachments above please specify your preference as combination of letter and number (in the last one they are not numbered, so let's use 1-3 left to right on the top row and 4 for the one on the bottom row). If it matters my favorites are C3 and C1, in that order.
>
> If you believe something can be improved, like color, font (style, size and placement), please feel free to add your suggestion. I believe the original authors (or somebody) will be able to make the improvements.
>
> Thanks,
> Hadrian
>
> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Site+Update+Ideas

Re: [DISCUSS] New Logo

Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.

A1

Regards
JB

On 03/24/2011 04:23 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
> Hi Camel Riders,
>
> With camel-2.7.0 out of the way I believe it's time to continue the improvements of the camel site design [1].
> I will start a separate thread for documentation/manual and keep this thread for the logo and css.
>
> We have already a few contributions and I don't think other contributors will step up with new proposals, so I'd propose choosing from what we have, which are of great quality already. So before we go to a poll or vote I would highly appreciate your input on what logo would be best for the camel project.
>
> We have a few proposals so far:
> A. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
> B. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic2.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000
> C. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/dvichot-camel-logo.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1296745441000
>
> Since there are a few versions in each of the attachments above please specify your preference as combination of letter and number (in the last one they are not numbered, so let's use 1-3 left to right on the top row and 4 for the one on the bottom row). If it matters my favorites are C3 and C1, in that order.
>
> If you believe something can be improved, like color, font (style, size and placement), please feel free to add your suggestion. I believe the original authors (or somebody) will be able to make the improvements.
>
> Thanks,
> Hadrian
>
> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Site+Update+Ideas