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[jira] [Comment Edited] (LEGAL-615) PR acceptance and CLA

    [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-615?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=17561797#comment-17561797 ] 

Jarek Potiuk edited comment on LEGAL-615 at 7/2/22 9:50 PM:
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Just to be very clear and straightforward what happens in some projects:
 * In Apache Airflow - we never ask "contributors" to sign ICLA
 * It has never been raised as expectation or requirement
 * I think out of the > 2100 contributors pretty much only commiters have ICLA signed - because this is only a requirement to become a contributor
 * It would be an absolute blocker to ask all of those contributors to sign ICLA. We have literally 100s of contributors that we "recruit" on a daily basis. If we ask them to sign ICLA, we will likely drop contributions from mostly our users by order of magnitude
 * there is absolutely no clear explanation on what consists of "significant enough" contribution to require ICLA. I have no idea. Very likely no other PMC members have an idea either. Nowhere in our contributors requirements we mention ICLA and "significant contributions. Our contributors (and I think committers and PMC members as well) have any knowledge or understanding when and how ICLA is required.
 * since we have no idea, we opt to "we don't care". if ICLA is not required, and we have no clear idea when it is required, we assume it is not required unless it is (i.e. when you become a committer).


was (Author: higrys):
Just to be very clear and straightforward what happens in some projects:
 * In Apache Airflow - we never ask "contributors" to sign ICLA
 * It has never been raised as expectation or requirement
 * I think out of the > 2100 contributors pretty much only commiters have ICLA signed - because this is a requirement to become a contributor
 * It would be an absolute blocker to ask all of those contributors to sign ICLA. We have literally 100s of contributors that we "recruit" on a daily basis. If we ask them to sign ICLA, we will likely drop contributions from mostly our users by order of magnitude
 * there is absolutely no clear explanation on what consists of "significant enough" contribution to require ICLA. I have no idea. Very likely no other PMC members have an idea either. Nowhere in our contributors requirements we mention ICLA and "significant contributions. Our contributors (and I think committers and PMC members as well) have any knowledge or understanding when and how ICLA is required.
 * since we have no idea, we opt to "we don't care". if ICLA is not required, and we have no clear idea when it is required, we assume it is not required unless it is (i.e. when you become a committer).

> PR acceptance and CLA
> ---------------------
>
>                 Key: LEGAL-615
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-615
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Question
>            Reporter: Slawomir Jaranowski
>            Priority: Major
>
> At the page: [https://www.apache.org/licenses/contributor-agreements.html]
> We have the sentence:
> {quote}All contributors of ideas, code, or documentation to any Apache projects must complete, sign, and submit via email an Individual Contributor License Agreement (ICLA).
> {quote}
> Does this means that we should be sure that all contributors have signed CLA before merge any PR?
> Are there any exceptions like - how many lines of code have been changed?
> How to verify contributor CLA, currently only officers have such possibility?
> [https://whimsy.apache.org/public/icla-info_noid.json]



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