introspection

[Tim Joyce <ti...@hoop.co.uk>]

Jason,

> We have most of the directives (even one I believe you don't
> that WM have requested #if/#elseif/.../#else), and I plan
> to post the design of the parser and a caching system
> tomorrow. I'm also hoping that tomorrow Bob (of iSpock)
> and I will be able to plug WM's introspection mechanism
> into Velocity. Bob has had experience with this as he
> has done it with iSpock.

what do you think of introspection?  AFAICT, it provides little more that
allowing

$Foo instead of $getFoo()

(which does have a little value).

Thew rest of the automagicing it achieves appears to be more confusing than
useful.

If you dump introspection, you can have Type Checking in Templates, which
has got to be good?

We have done a little work in this area, but it havn't got very far (we are
reviewing if it worth persuing the project in the light of recent happenings
:), perhaps it is useful for ideas for Velocity?

http://www.melati.org/webmacro/Page?db=paneris&wmtemplate=melati/view/JTempl
ater.wm

cheers

timj

Re: introspection

[Jason van Zyl <jv...@periapt.com>]

On Wed, 30 Aug 2000, Tim Joyce wrote:

> Jason,
> 
> > We have most of the directives (even one I believe you don't
> > that WM have requested #if/#elseif/.../#else), and I plan
> > to post the design of the parser and a caching system
> > tomorrow. I'm also hoping that tomorrow Bob (of iSpock)
> > and I will be able to plug WM's introspection mechanism
> > into Velocity. Bob has had experience with this as he
> > has done it with iSpock.
> 
> what do you think of introspection?  AFAICT, it provides little more that
> allowing
> 
> $Foo instead of $getFoo()
> 
> (which does have a little value).
> 
> Thew rest of the automagicing it achieves appears to be more confusing than
> useful.
> 
> If you dump introspection, you can have Type Checking in Templates, which
> has got to be good?

It might be but we're opting for strict WM compatibility.
I actually like the way WM does introspection. I find it
quite handy :)
 
> We have done a little work in this area, but it havn't got very far (we are
> reviewing if it worth persuing the project in the light of recent happenings
> :), perhaps it is useful for ideas for Velocity?

All ideas are appreciated. I don't think there is any worry
about having a viable solution. WM work now, and Velocity
will provide a smooth upgrade path. Our code bases will
at some point in the future eventually merge. So I don't
think there should be any fear there. Both projects
are now being hosted by the ASF and that can only
bring about good things.

jvz.

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Jason van Zyl
jvanzyl@periapt.com