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Posted to dev@cloudstack.apache.org by Alex Huang <Al...@citrix.com> on 2013/01/30 18:59:07 UTC

VmWare licensing...

Chip and others who knows this,

If we generate our own client stubs from the vmware wsdl, does that mean vmware can be in oss?  When you looked at the licensing for vmware, did that come across as an alternative?

Thanks.

--Alex



Re: VmWare licensing...

Posted by Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com>.
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:16 PM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Alex Huang <Al...@citrix.com> wrote:
>> Chip and others who knows this,
>>
>> If we generate our own client stubs from the vmware wsdl, does that mean vmware can be in oss?  When you looked at the licensing for vmware, did that come across as an alternative?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> --Alex
>
>
> Such things have been discussed as OK on legal-discuss in the past for
> other projects. We talked about it during 4.0 and decided not to try
> at that point to minimize change, but I'd personally love to see that
> happen so that VMware was part of the OSS build.
>
> We'd prolly want to open a ticket on legal-discuss to ensure that the
> legal powers that be are ok with it.
>
> --David
>

+1 to what David said.  Similar questions have been raised on
legal-discuss@a.o, but the closest thing I was able to find was:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-137

In that discussion, it was actually a question of including the WSDL
and XSDs in the distribution.

I think that we would ask the question differently...  Can we include
*generated* java classes that were derived from a WSDL file in our
source distribution (citing the specifics)?

Alternatively, I've advocated for using vi-java previously.  vi-java
provides *both* a bit more understandable set of APIs to control
Virtual Center, as well as exposing a set of classes that would
probably match anything we would generate ourselves.  IIRC, you can
use either / both.

-chip

Re: VmWare licensing...

Posted by David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us>.
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Alex Huang <Al...@citrix.com> wrote:
> Chip and others who knows this,
>
> If we generate our own client stubs from the vmware wsdl, does that mean vmware can be in oss?  When you looked at the licensing for vmware, did that come across as an alternative?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --Alex


Such things have been discussed as OK on legal-discuss in the past for
other projects. We talked about it during 4.0 and decided not to try
at that point to minimize change, but I'd personally love to see that
happen so that VMware was part of the OSS build.

We'd prolly want to open a ticket on legal-discuss to ensure that the
legal powers that be are ok with it.

--David