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Re: Suggestions for NetBeans IDE


On 2018-01-01 02:31, Валера Солдатов<v....@gmail.com> wrote: 
> 31.12.2017 17:11, NDelt (NDelt) пишет:
> >
> > Hello.
> >
> > I'm using NetBeans 8.2 and I have some suggestions about it.
> >
> > 1) Old option menu & IDE information
> >
> > In Tools->Options menu, it supports configurations about PHP 5.6 and 
> > C++98/11/14.
> >
> > The problem is they are *not* latest version. Of course users can make 
> > PHP 7.0 files but final version is 7.2, and Command Line option is 
> > still PHP 5. Also, in Options->C/C++->Other menu, 'Default Standard' 
> > options don't support C++17.
> >
> If you speak about options only this list box has been updated many time 
> ago (http://hg.netbeans.org/main-silver/rev/7a24cb671166).
> >
> > I think this is because of slow update. NetBeans 8.2 came out in 
> > October 2016 and there wasn't any version update during the past year. 
> > Even the information of ‘NetBeans IDE Features - PHP Development’ 
> > webpage <https://netbeans.org/features/php/index.html> is described 
> > based on PHP 5.6.
> >
> > Plus, I hope add Clang to basic C/C++ compiler of NetBeans IDE.(like 
> > Xcode)
> >
> Which platform you are using? On MacOSX and FreeBSD CLang is default 
> compiler in automatic tests in NetBeans IDE. Unfortunately you can't use 
> LLDB debugger in NetBeans, and GDB can't debug CLang executables correctly.
> >
> > 2) Start Page
> >
> > When I run NetBeans IDE, 'Start Page' is displayed with last project. 
> > I want an option to display Start Page(+Recent Projects) 
> > *without* opening last project files like Visual Studio.
> >
> > 3) Website/Forum Design
> >
> > Design of NetBeans official website and forum is too old and texts are 
> > too small so it's a little hard to read. They need modern-style web 
> > design.
> >
> https://netbeans.org/community/news/show/1646.html
> Note that we will be discontinuing the web forums, i.e., 
> forums.netbeans.org, and that in Apache there is no replacement for that 
> — Apache projects work with mailing lists only. Also, the NetBeans.org 
> website as a whole will move to Apache, while issues can already be 
> filed at https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS/issues, which 
> is now the official place for filing Apache NetBeans issues.
> 
> > I’m very pleased with NetBeans, but I think it would be better if 
> > these improvements are made.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> 
> At first time I couldn't find information that forum has been replaced by a mailing list. Contact page is also connecting to forums, not mailing lists. I think the official website should change at least its guide and url.
> I'm using Windows and macOS but Clang did not function properly on both operating systems. I didn't know LLDB debugger is not available.

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Re: Suggestions for NetBeans IDE

Posted by Валера Солдатов <v....@gmail.com>.
01.01.2018 6:18, blackj0221@gmail.com пишет:
>
> On 2018-01-01 02:31, Валера Солдатов<v....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 31.12.2017 17:11, NDelt (NDelt) пишет:
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> I'm using NetBeans 8.2 and I have some suggestions about it.
>>>
>>> 1) Old option menu & IDE information
>>>
>>> In Tools->Options menu, it supports configurations about PHP 5.6 and
>>> C++98/11/14.
>>>
>>> The problem is they are *not* latest version. Of course users can make
>>> PHP 7.0 files but final version is 7.2, and Command Line option is
>>> still PHP 5. Also, in Options->C/C++->Other menu, 'Default Standard'
>>> options don't support C++17.
>>>
>> If you speak about options only this list box has been updated many time
>> ago (http://hg.netbeans.org/main-silver/rev/7a24cb671166).
>>> I think this is because of slow update. NetBeans 8.2 came out in
>>> October 2016 and there wasn't any version update during the past year.
>>> Even the information of ‘NetBeans IDE Features - PHP Development’
>>> webpage <https://netbeans.org/features/php/index.html> is described
>>> based on PHP 5.6.
>>>
>>> Plus, I hope add Clang to basic C/C++ compiler of NetBeans IDE.(like
>>> Xcode)
>>>
>> Which platform you are using? On MacOSX and FreeBSD CLang is default
>> compiler in automatic tests in NetBeans IDE. Unfortunately you can't use
>> LLDB debugger in NetBeans, and GDB can't debug CLang executables correctly.
>>> 2) Start Page
>>>
>>> When I run NetBeans IDE, 'Start Page' is displayed with last project.
>>> I want an option to display Start Page(+Recent Projects)
>>> *without* opening last project files like Visual Studio.
>>>
>>> 3) Website/Forum Design
>>>
>>> Design of NetBeans official website and forum is too old and texts are
>>> too small so it's a little hard to read. They need modern-style web
>>> design.
>>>
>> https://netbeans.org/community/news/show/1646.html
>> Note that we will be discontinuing the web forums, i.e.,
>> forums.netbeans.org, and that in Apache there is no replacement for that
>> — Apache projects work with mailing lists only. Also, the NetBeans.org
>> website as a whole will move to Apache, while issues can already be
>> filed at https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS/issues, which
>> is now the official place for filing Apache NetBeans issues.
>>
>>> I’m very pleased with NetBeans, but I think it would be better if
>>> these improvements are made.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>> At first time I couldn't find information that forum has been replaced by a mailing list. Contact page is also connecting to forums, not mailing lists. I think the official website should change at least its guide and url.
>> I'm using Windows and macOS but Clang did not function properly on both operating systems. I didn't know LLDB debugger is not available.
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1) It just message from main page of https://netbeans.org (see attachment)

2) Can you describe 1 or 2 main problems with CLang on MacOSX? On 
Windows I know 3 different CLang compilers. Clang in Cygwin, CLang in 
MSYS and CLang+Microsoft Visual Studio. Which CLang you are using?

3) Theoretically You can use lldb-mi on MacOSX, but this case has to 
many limitations.