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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by drew <dr...@baseanswers.com> on 2012/08/23 00:41:14 UTC

BAD link (was: Fwd: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2_

OK one bad link on the other downloads page, so far

The Mac en_US language pack points to:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/

back to it..

//drew

On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 00:15 +0200, Jürgen Lange wrote:
> For me it's working also. After checking the links, I have downloaded 
> the german version for windows, have installed it (Windows XP SP3) and 
> made first tests. All is working fine so far.
> 
> Jürgen
> 
> Am 23.08.2012 00:09, schrieb Rob Weir:
> > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:58 PM, drew <dr...@baseanswers.com> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 17:29 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
> >>> So some possible confusion coming.  I'm seeing a few websites have
> >>> already announced 3.4.1 and are pushing users to www.openoffice.org.
> >>> Of course, they are not finding AOO 3.4.1 there yet.
> >>>
> >>> For example this article is being spread via Twitter:
> >>> http://majorgeeks.com/Apache_OpenOffice.org_For_Windows_d3461.html
> >>>
> >>> And I can see, via Google Analytics, that we're getting a good amount
> >>> of traffic referred to from that site.
> >>>
> >>> So I'm going to spent the next hour or so verifying the download page.
> >>>   If others can help with this, please do:
> >>>
> >>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/other.html
> >>>
> >>> I'll start going down the left-most column.  If someone else can start
> >>> on the right-most column (Mac) we should have this done quickly and be
> >>> able to publish that page.
> >> doing it now...
> >>
> > It is all working for me so far.  I'm not seeing any links failing
> >
> > I've also updated the Japanese and French NL pages.  The Italian and
> > Spanish pages seem to be hooked into the same Javascript we use on the
> > main download page, so I'm hoping they will point to the 3.4.1 release
> > automatically when we push the updates to that script.
> >
> > -Rob
> >
> >>
> >>> -Rob
> >>>
> >>
> 



Re: BAD link

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 08/23/2012 01:58 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
> Am 08/23/2012 01:26 AM, schrieb drew:
>> On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 01:16 +0200, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>> Am 08/23/2012 12:54 AM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 6:50 PM, drew<dr...@baseanswers.com> wrote:
>>>>> One more incorrect link
>>>>>
>>>>> The SDK release notes points to:
>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/sdk/index.html
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That one appears to be dead in the live page as well:
>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/sdk/index.html
>>>>
>>>> It is supposed to be a link to release notes for the SDK. Do we even
>>>> have release notes there? Did we with 3.4.0?
>>>
>>> I've corrected the link and adjusted the text on the underlying webpage
>>> a bit.
>>>
>>> In the ".../download/sdk/" dir there are no release notes for a AOO
>>> release. Hm, maybe Juergen can tell us more (tomorrow).
>>>
>>> Marcus
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> I've finished checking the links for Mac, and Linux 64bit (deb and rpm)
>> they all seem fine.
>>
>> Rob checked windows, has anyone else already checked the 32 bit linux
>> stuff?
>
> I've tried to use a link checker. But it seems to fail with the special
> download URL that SourceForge is using. So, there is always a good link
> indicated, even when no download was started but a alternative webpage
> loaded. :-(
>
> http://linkchecker.submitexpress.com/
>
> Hm, there must be a tool to check for broken links. Does someone know of
> a better way or tool? IMHO too many link to check all manually.

Anyway, I hope the links are well now. Otherwise lets see what could be 
fixed on the next day.

It's now past 02:00am in Germany. Good night and CU tomorrow.

Marcus



>>>>> On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 18:41 -0400, drew wrote:
>>>>>> OK one bad link on the other downloads page, so far
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Mac en_US language pack points to:
>>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> back to it..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> //drew
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 00:15 +0200, Jürgen Lange wrote:
>>>>>>> For me it's working also. After checking the links, I have
>>>>>>> downloaded
>>>>>>> the german version for windows, have installed it (Windows XP
>>>>>>> SP3) and
>>>>>>> made first tests. All is working fine so far.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jürgen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 23.08.2012 00:09, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:58 PM, drew<dr...@baseanswers.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 17:29 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> So some possible confusion coming. I'm seeing a few websites have
>>>>>>>>>> already announced 3.4.1 and are pushing users to
>>>>>>>>>> www.openoffice.org.
>>>>>>>>>> Of course, they are not finding AOO 3.4.1 there yet.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For example this article is being spread via Twitter:
>>>>>>>>>> http://majorgeeks.com/Apache_OpenOffice.org_For_Windows_d3461.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And I can see, via Google Analytics, that we're getting a good
>>>>>>>>>> amount
>>>>>>>>>> of traffic referred to from that site.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So I'm going to spent the next hour or so verifying the
>>>>>>>>>> download page.
>>>>>>>>>> If others can help with this, please do:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/other.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'll start going down the left-most column. If someone else
>>>>>>>>>> can start
>>>>>>>>>> on the right-most column (Mac) we should have this done
>>>>>>>>>> quickly and be
>>>>>>>>>> able to publish that page.
>>>>>>>>> doing it now...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is all working for me so far. I'm not seeing any links failing
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've also updated the Japanese and French NL pages. The Italian and
>>>>>>>> Spanish pages seem to be hooked into the same Javascript we use
>>>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>>> main download page, so I'm hoping they will point to the 3.4.1
>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>> automatically when we push the updates to that script.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Rob

Re: BAD link

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Marcus (OOo) <ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:

> Am 08/23/2012 01:26 AM, schrieb drew:
>
>  On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 01:16 +0200, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>
>>> Am 08/23/2012 12:54 AM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 6:50 PM, drew<dr...@baseanswers.com>   wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> One more incorrect link
>>>>>
>>>>> The SDK release notes points to:
>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/sdk/index.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/sdk/index.html>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> That one appears to be dead in the live page as well:
>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/sdk/**index.html<http://www.openoffice.org/sdk/index.html>
>>>>
>>>> It is supposed to be a link to release notes for the SDK.  Do we even
>>>> have release notes there?  Did we with 3.4.0?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I've corrected the link and adjusted the text on the underlying webpage
>>> a bit.
>>>
>>> In the ".../download/sdk/" dir there are no release notes for a AOO
>>> release. Hm, maybe Juergen can tell us more (tomorrow).
>>>
>>> Marcus
>>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> I've finished checking the links for Mac, and Linux 64bit (deb and rpm)
>> they all seem fine.
>>
>> Rob checked windows, has anyone else already checked the 32 bit linux
>> stuff?
>>
>
> I've tried to use a link checker. But it seems to fail with the special
> download URL that SourceForge is using. So, there is always a good link
> indicated, even when no download was started but a alternative webpage
> loaded. :-(
>
> http://linkchecker.**submitexpress.com/<http://linkchecker.submitexpress.com/>
>
> Hm, there must be a tool to check for broken links. Does someone know of a
> better way or tool? IMHO too many link to check all manually.
>
> Marcus


linklint

http://www.linklint.org/

It's pretty easy to set up as I recall.

I could help probably...what root URL should we use?




>
>
>
>
>  On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 18:41 -0400, drew wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> OK one bad link on the other downloads page, so far
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Mac en_US language pack points to:
>>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**files/<http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> back to it..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> //drew
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 00:15 +0200, Jürgen Lange wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For me it's working also. After checking the links, I have downloaded
>>>>>>> the german version for windows, have installed it (Windows XP SP3)
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> made first tests. All is working fine so far.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jürgen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 23.08.2012 00:09, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:58 PM, drew<dr...@baseanswers.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 17:29 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So some possible confusion coming.  I'm seeing a few websites have
>>>>>>>>>> already announced 3.4.1 and are pushing users to
>>>>>>>>>> www.openoffice.org.
>>>>>>>>>> Of course, they are not finding AOO 3.4.1 there yet.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For example this article is being spread via Twitter:
>>>>>>>>>> http://majorgeeks.com/Apache_**OpenOffice.org_For_Windows_**
>>>>>>>>>> d3461.html<http://majorgeeks.com/Apache_OpenOffice.org_For_Windows_d3461.html>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And I can see, via Google Analytics, that we're getting a good
>>>>>>>>>> amount
>>>>>>>>>> of traffic referred to from that site.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So I'm going to spent the next hour or so verifying the download
>>>>>>>>>> page.
>>>>>>>>>>     If others can help with this, please do:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/other.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/other.html>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'll start going down the left-most column.  If someone else can
>>>>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>>>>> on the right-most column (Mac) we should have this done quickly
>>>>>>>>>> and be
>>>>>>>>>> able to publish that page.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> doing it now...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  It is all working for me so far.  I'm not seeing any links failing
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've also updated the Japanese and French NL pages.  The Italian and
>>>>>>>> Spanish pages seem to be hooked into the same Javascript we use on
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> main download page, so I'm hoping they will point to the 3.4.1
>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>> automatically when we push the updates to that script.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  -Rob
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>


-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK

"As a child my family's menu consisted of two choices:
    take it or leave it. "
                                   -- Buddy Hackett

Re: BAD link

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 08/23/2012 02:26 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Rob Weir<ro...@apache.org>  wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de>
>> wrote:
>>> Am 08/23/2012 01:26 AM, schrieb drew:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 01:16 +0200, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 08/23/2012 12:54 AM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 6:50 PM, drew<dr...@baseanswers.com>    wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One more incorrect link
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The SDK release notes points to:
>>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/sdk/index.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That one appears to be dead in the live page as well:
>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/sdk/index.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is supposed to be a link to release notes for the SDK.  Do we even
>>>>>> have release notes there?  Did we with 3.4.0?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've corrected the link and adjusted the text on the underlying webpage
>>>>> a bit.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the ".../download/sdk/" dir there are no release notes for a AOO
>>>>> release. Hm, maybe Juergen can tell us more (tomorrow).
>>>>>
>>>>> Marcus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> I've finished checking the links for Mac, and Linux 64bit (deb and rpm)
>>>> they all seem fine.
>>>>
>>>> Rob checked windows, has anyone else already checked the 32 bit linux
>>>> stuff?
>>>
>>>
>>> I've tried to use a link checker. But it seems to fail with the special
>>> download URL that SourceForge is using. So, there is always a good link
>>> indicated, even when no download was started but a alternative webpage
>>> loaded. :-(
>>>
>>> http://linkchecker.submitexpress.com/
>>>
>>> Hm, there must be a tool to check for broken links. Does someone know of
>> a
>>> better way or tool? IMHO too many link to check all manually.
>>>
>>
>> I think link checker would only get the first link into SF, but not
>> the asynch download that comes 5 seconds later.  So it doesn't really
>> check for much.
>>
>
> OK
>
>
>>
>> I think of it like this:  # of errors in download process == # of
>> errors we put in - # of errors we find and fix
>>
>> There is a lot we could do to lower the # of bugs we put it.
>> Automation is what we need. Right now the directory structure produced

I've prepared something. So, let's see if can show you a draft version 
on the weekend.

>> by the build differs from the directory structure we have in the
>> download tree.  I think that is the source of the complexity that is
>> hurting us.  That, plus the fact that our download tree has an
>> irrational structure, more complicated than necessary.  If we can
>> reduce this disconnect between build and distribution, I think it
>> would help.

For sure. Thanks to Kay for starting the new thread.

> possibly...and yet many of them are OK. But I do know Juergen, our tireless
> release manager, has been arguing for a different structure for a while,
> and that's fine. It was just given what was already setup in SF with 3.3
> that was my original concern. And, the fact that this request was in "new"
> territory if you will for the 3.4 release that I personally was very
> nervous about. How would this effect what they needed to do, etc.
> Basically, once the packs get loaded, we're into a what , maybe a 48 hour
> test period? If something went really wrong, well...
>
> But...this said about 3.4 and now 3.4.1, Marcus and I have have cleaned up
> a LOT of this script.  Dealing with a directory structure change won't be
> the issue it would have been in May.

We should plan the dir change for the next bigger release. Should be 
doable when it's no longer this year.

> So, I think we're good with suggestions for the future.

Marcus



>>>>>>> On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 18:41 -0400, drew wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OK one bad link on the other downloads page, so far
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Mac en_US language pack points to:
>>>>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> back to it..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> //drew
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 00:15 +0200, Jürgen Lange wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For me it's working also. After checking the links, I have
>> downloaded
>>>>>>>>> the german version for windows, have installed it (Windows XP SP3)
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> made first tests. All is working fine so far.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jürgen
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 23.08.2012 00:09, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:58 PM, drew<dr...@baseanswers.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 17:29 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So some possible confusion coming.  I'm seeing a few websites
>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>> already announced 3.4.1 and are pushing users to
>>>>>>>>>>>> www.openoffice.org.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, they are not finding AOO 3.4.1 there yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> For example this article is being spread via Twitter:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> http://majorgeeks.com/Apache_OpenOffice.org_For_Windows_d3461.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And I can see, via Google Analytics, that we're getting a good
>>>>>>>>>>>> amount
>>>>>>>>>>>> of traffic referred to from that site.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So I'm going to spent the next hour or so verifying the download
>>>>>>>>>>>> page.
>>>>>>>>>>>>      If others can help with this, please do:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/other.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll start going down the left-most column.  If someone else can
>>>>>>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>>>>>>> on the right-most column (Mac) we should have this done quickly
>>>>>>>>>>>> and be
>>>>>>>>>>>> able to publish that page.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> doing it now...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is all working for me so far.  I'm not seeing any links failing
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've also updated the Japanese and French NL pages.  The Italian
>> and
>>>>>>>>>> Spanish pages seem to be hooked into the same Javascript we use on
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> main download page, so I'm hoping they will point to the 3.4.1
>>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>> automatically when we push the updates to that script.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Rob

Re: BAD link

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Marcus (OOo) <ma...@wtnet.de>
> wrote:
> > Am 08/23/2012 01:26 AM, schrieb drew:
> >
> >> On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 01:16 +0200, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Am 08/23/2012 12:54 AM, schrieb Rob Weir:
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 6:50 PM, drew<dr...@baseanswers.com>   wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> One more incorrect link
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The SDK release notes points to:
> >>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/sdk/index.html
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> That one appears to be dead in the live page as well:
> >>>> http://www.openoffice.org/sdk/index.html
> >>>>
> >>>> It is supposed to be a link to release notes for the SDK.  Do we even
> >>>> have release notes there?  Did we with 3.4.0?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I've corrected the link and adjusted the text on the underlying webpage
> >>> a bit.
> >>>
> >>> In the ".../download/sdk/" dir there are no release notes for a AOO
> >>> release. Hm, maybe Juergen can tell us more (tomorrow).
> >>>
> >>> Marcus
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> I've finished checking the links for Mac, and Linux 64bit (deb and rpm)
> >> they all seem fine.
> >>
> >> Rob checked windows, has anyone else already checked the 32 bit linux
> >> stuff?
> >
> >
> > I've tried to use a link checker. But it seems to fail with the special
> > download URL that SourceForge is using. So, there is always a good link
> > indicated, even when no download was started but a alternative webpage
> > loaded. :-(
> >
> > http://linkchecker.submitexpress.com/
> >
> > Hm, there must be a tool to check for broken links. Does someone know of
> a
> > better way or tool? IMHO too many link to check all manually.
> >
>
> I think link checker would only get the first link into SF, but not
> the asynch download that comes 5 seconds later.  So it doesn't really
> check for much.
>

OK


>
> I think of it like this:  # of errors in download process == # of
> errors we put in - # of errors we find and fix
>
> There is a lot we could do to lower the # of bugs we put it.
> Automation is what we need. Right now the directory structure produced
> by the build differs from the directory structure we have in the
> download tree.  I think that is the source of the complexity that is
> hurting us.  That, plus the fact that our download tree has an
> irrational structure, more complicated than necessary.  If we can
> reduce this disconnect between build and distribution, I think it
> would help.
>

possibly...and yet many of them are OK. But I do know Juergen, our tireless
release manager, has been arguing for a different structure for a while,
and that's fine. It was just given what was already setup in SF with 3.3
that was my original concern. And, the fact that this request was in "new"
territory if you will for the 3.4 release that I personally was very
nervous about. How would this effect what they needed to do, etc.
Basically, once the packs get loaded, we're into a what , maybe a 48 hour
test period? If something went really wrong, well...

But...this said about 3.4 and now 3.4.1, Marcus and I have have cleaned up
a LOT of this script.  Dealing with a directory structure change won't be
the issue it would have been in May.

So, I think we're good with suggestions for the future.


> -Rob
>
>
> > Marcus
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>>>> On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 18:41 -0400, drew wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> OK one bad link on the other downloads page, so far
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The Mac en_US language pack points to:
> >>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> back to it..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> //drew
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 00:15 +0200, Jürgen Lange wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> For me it's working also. After checking the links, I have
> downloaded
> >>>>>>> the german version for windows, have installed it (Windows XP SP3)
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>> made first tests. All is working fine so far.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Jürgen
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Am 23.08.2012 00:09, schrieb Rob Weir:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:58 PM, drew<dr...@baseanswers.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 17:29 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> So some possible confusion coming.  I'm seeing a few websites
> have
> >>>>>>>>>> already announced 3.4.1 and are pushing users to
> >>>>>>>>>> www.openoffice.org.
> >>>>>>>>>> Of course, they are not finding AOO 3.4.1 there yet.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> For example this article is being spread via Twitter:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> http://majorgeeks.com/Apache_OpenOffice.org_For_Windows_d3461.html
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> And I can see, via Google Analytics, that we're getting a good
> >>>>>>>>>> amount
> >>>>>>>>>> of traffic referred to from that site.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> So I'm going to spent the next hour or so verifying the download
> >>>>>>>>>> page.
> >>>>>>>>>>     If others can help with this, please do:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/other.html
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I'll start going down the left-most column.  If someone else can
> >>>>>>>>>> start
> >>>>>>>>>> on the right-most column (Mac) we should have this done quickly
> >>>>>>>>>> and be
> >>>>>>>>>> able to publish that page.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> doing it now...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It is all working for me so far.  I'm not seeing any links failing
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I've also updated the Japanese and French NL pages.  The Italian
> and
> >>>>>>>> Spanish pages seem to be hooked into the same Javascript we use on
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> main download page, so I'm hoping they will point to the 3.4.1
> >>>>>>>> release
> >>>>>>>> automatically when we push the updates to that script.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -Rob
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> -Rob
>



-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK

"As a child my family's menu consisted of two choices:
    take it or leave it. "
                                   -- Buddy Hackett

Re: BAD link

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Marcus (OOo) <ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:
> Am 08/23/2012 01:26 AM, schrieb drew:
>
>> On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 01:16 +0200, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>
>>> Am 08/23/2012 12:54 AM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 6:50 PM, drew<dr...@baseanswers.com>   wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> One more incorrect link
>>>>>
>>>>> The SDK release notes points to:
>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/sdk/index.html
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That one appears to be dead in the live page as well:
>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/sdk/index.html
>>>>
>>>> It is supposed to be a link to release notes for the SDK.  Do we even
>>>> have release notes there?  Did we with 3.4.0?
>>>
>>>
>>> I've corrected the link and adjusted the text on the underlying webpage
>>> a bit.
>>>
>>> In the ".../download/sdk/" dir there are no release notes for a AOO
>>> release. Hm, maybe Juergen can tell us more (tomorrow).
>>>
>>> Marcus
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> I've finished checking the links for Mac, and Linux 64bit (deb and rpm)
>> they all seem fine.
>>
>> Rob checked windows, has anyone else already checked the 32 bit linux
>> stuff?
>
>
> I've tried to use a link checker. But it seems to fail with the special
> download URL that SourceForge is using. So, there is always a good link
> indicated, even when no download was started but a alternative webpage
> loaded. :-(
>
> http://linkchecker.submitexpress.com/
>
> Hm, there must be a tool to check for broken links. Does someone know of a
> better way or tool? IMHO too many link to check all manually.
>

I think link checker would only get the first link into SF, but not
the asynch download that comes 5 seconds later.  So it doesn't really
check for much.

I think of it like this:  # of errors in download process == # of
errors we put in - # of errors we find and fix

There is a lot we could do to lower the # of bugs we put it.
Automation is what we need. Right now the directory structure produced
by the build differs from the directory structure we have in the
download tree.  I think that is the source of the complexity that is
hurting us.  That, plus the fact that our download tree has an
irrational structure, more complicated than necessary.  If we can
reduce this disconnect between build and distribution, I think it
would help.

-Rob


> Marcus
>
>
>
>
>>>>> On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 18:41 -0400, drew wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK one bad link on the other downloads page, so far
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Mac en_US language pack points to:
>>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> back to it..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> //drew
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 00:15 +0200, Jürgen Lange wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For me it's working also. After checking the links, I have downloaded
>>>>>>> the german version for windows, have installed it (Windows XP SP3)
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> made first tests. All is working fine so far.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jürgen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 23.08.2012 00:09, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:58 PM, drew<dr...@baseanswers.com>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 17:29 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So some possible confusion coming.  I'm seeing a few websites have
>>>>>>>>>> already announced 3.4.1 and are pushing users to
>>>>>>>>>> www.openoffice.org.
>>>>>>>>>> Of course, they are not finding AOO 3.4.1 there yet.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For example this article is being spread via Twitter:
>>>>>>>>>> http://majorgeeks.com/Apache_OpenOffice.org_For_Windows_d3461.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And I can see, via Google Analytics, that we're getting a good
>>>>>>>>>> amount
>>>>>>>>>> of traffic referred to from that site.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So I'm going to spent the next hour or so verifying the download
>>>>>>>>>> page.
>>>>>>>>>>     If others can help with this, please do:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/other.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'll start going down the left-most column.  If someone else can
>>>>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>>>>> on the right-most column (Mac) we should have this done quickly
>>>>>>>>>> and be
>>>>>>>>>> able to publish that page.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> doing it now...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is all working for me so far.  I'm not seeing any links failing
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've also updated the Japanese and French NL pages.  The Italian and
>>>>>>>> Spanish pages seem to be hooked into the same Javascript we use on
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> main download page, so I'm hoping they will point to the 3.4.1
>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>> automatically when we push the updates to that script.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Rob

Re: BAD link

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 08/23/2012 01:26 AM, schrieb drew:
> On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 01:16 +0200, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>> Am 08/23/2012 12:54 AM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 6:50 PM, drew<dr...@baseanswers.com>   wrote:
>>>> One more incorrect link
>>>>
>>>> The SDK release notes points to:
>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/sdk/index.html
>>>>
>>>
>>> That one appears to be dead in the live page as well:
>>> http://www.openoffice.org/sdk/index.html
>>>
>>> It is supposed to be a link to release notes for the SDK.  Do we even
>>> have release notes there?  Did we with 3.4.0?
>>
>> I've corrected the link and adjusted the text on the underlying webpage
>> a bit.
>>
>> In the ".../download/sdk/" dir there are no release notes for a AOO
>> release. Hm, maybe Juergen can tell us more (tomorrow).
>>
>> Marcus
>
> Thanks,
>
> I've finished checking the links for Mac, and Linux 64bit (deb and rpm)
> they all seem fine.
>
> Rob checked windows, has anyone else already checked the 32 bit linux
> stuff?

I've tried to use a link checker. But it seems to fail with the special 
download URL that SourceForge is using. So, there is always a good link 
indicated, even when no download was started but a alternative webpage 
loaded. :-(

http://linkchecker.submitexpress.com/

Hm, there must be a tool to check for broken links. Does someone know of 
a better way or tool? IMHO too many link to check all manually.

Marcus



>>>> On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 18:41 -0400, drew wrote:
>>>>> OK one bad link on the other downloads page, so far
>>>>>
>>>>> The Mac en_US language pack points to:
>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/
>>>>>
>>>>> back to it..
>>>>>
>>>>> //drew
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 00:15 +0200, Jürgen Lange wrote:
>>>>>> For me it's working also. After checking the links, I have downloaded
>>>>>> the german version for windows, have installed it (Windows XP SP3) and
>>>>>> made first tests. All is working fine so far.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jürgen
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 23.08.2012 00:09, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:58 PM, drew<dr...@baseanswers.com>   wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 17:29 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>>>>> So some possible confusion coming.  I'm seeing a few websites have
>>>>>>>>> already announced 3.4.1 and are pushing users to www.openoffice.org.
>>>>>>>>> Of course, they are not finding AOO 3.4.1 there yet.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For example this article is being spread via Twitter:
>>>>>>>>> http://majorgeeks.com/Apache_OpenOffice.org_For_Windows_d3461.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And I can see, via Google Analytics, that we're getting a good amount
>>>>>>>>> of traffic referred to from that site.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So I'm going to spent the next hour or so verifying the download page.
>>>>>>>>>     If others can help with this, please do:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/other.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll start going down the left-most column.  If someone else can start
>>>>>>>>> on the right-most column (Mac) we should have this done quickly and be
>>>>>>>>> able to publish that page.
>>>>>>>> doing it now...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is all working for me so far.  I'm not seeing any links failing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've also updated the Japanese and French NL pages.  The Italian and
>>>>>>> Spanish pages seem to be hooked into the same Javascript we use on the
>>>>>>> main download page, so I'm hoping they will point to the 3.4.1 release
>>>>>>> automatically when we push the updates to that script.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Rob

Re: BAD link

Posted by Dave Barton <db...@tasit.net>.
-------- Original Message  --------
From: drew <dr...@baseanswers.com>
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 19:26:50 -0400

> On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 01:16 +0200, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>> Am 08/23/2012 12:54 AM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 6:50 PM, drew<dr...@baseanswers.com>  wrote:
>>>> One more incorrect link
>>>>
>>>> The SDK release notes points to:
>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/sdk/index.html
>>>>
>>>
>>> That one appears to be dead in the live page as well:
>>> http://www.openoffice.org/sdk/index.html
>>>
>>> It is supposed to be a link to release notes for the SDK.  Do we even
>>> have release notes there?  Did we with 3.4.0?
>>
>> I've corrected the link and adjusted the text on the underlying webpage 
>> a bit.
>>
>> In the ".../download/sdk/" dir there are no release notes for a AOO 
>> release. Hm, maybe Juergen can tell us more (tomorrow).
>>
>> Marcus
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> I've finished checking the links for Mac, and Linux 64bit (deb and rpm)
> they all seem fine. 
> 
> Rob checked windows, has anyone else already checked the 32 bit linux
> stuff?
> 
> //drew

I have just finished checking all Linux 32 & 64 (deb & rpm) all
languages and all trigger the expected downloads.

Dave

> 
>>
>>
>>
>>>> On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 18:41 -0400, drew wrote:
>>>>> OK one bad link on the other downloads page, so far
>>>>>
>>>>> The Mac en_US language pack points to:
>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/
>>>>>
>>>>> back to it..
>>>>>
>>>>> //drew
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 00:15 +0200, JÃŒrgen Lange wrote:
>>>>>> For me it's working also. After checking the links, I have downloaded
>>>>>> the german version for windows, have installed it (Windows XP SP3) and
>>>>>> made first tests. All is working fine so far.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JÃŒrgen
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 23.08.2012 00:09, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:58 PM, drew<dr...@baseanswers.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 17:29 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>>>>> So some possible confusion coming.  I'm seeing a few websites have
>>>>>>>>> already announced 3.4.1 and are pushing users to www.openoffice.org.
>>>>>>>>> Of course, they are not finding AOO 3.4.1 there yet.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For example this article is being spread via Twitter:
>>>>>>>>> http://majorgeeks.com/Apache_OpenOffice.org_For_Windows_d3461.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And I can see, via Google Analytics, that we're getting a good amount
>>>>>>>>> of traffic referred to from that site.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So I'm going to spent the next hour or so verifying the download page.
>>>>>>>>>    If others can help with this, please do:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/other.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll start going down the left-most column.  If someone else can start
>>>>>>>>> on the right-most column (Mac) we should have this done quickly and be
>>>>>>>>> able to publish that page.
>>>>>>>> doing it now...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is all working for me so far.  I'm not seeing any links failing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've also updated the Japanese and French NL pages.  The Italian and
>>>>>>> Spanish pages seem to be hooked into the same Javascript we use on the
>>>>>>> main download page, so I'm hoping they will point to the 3.4.1 release
>>>>>>> automatically when we push the updates to that script.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Rob
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 



Re: BAD link

Posted by drew <dr...@baseanswers.com>.
On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 01:16 +0200, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> Am 08/23/2012 12:54 AM, schrieb Rob Weir:
> > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 6:50 PM, drew<dr...@baseanswers.com>  wrote:
> >> One more incorrect link
> >>
> >> The SDK release notes points to:
> >> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/sdk/index.html
> >>
> >
> > That one appears to be dead in the live page as well:
> > http://www.openoffice.org/sdk/index.html
> >
> > It is supposed to be a link to release notes for the SDK.  Do we even
> > have release notes there?  Did we with 3.4.0?
> 
> I've corrected the link and adjusted the text on the underlying webpage 
> a bit.
> 
> In the ".../download/sdk/" dir there are no release notes for a AOO 
> release. Hm, maybe Juergen can tell us more (tomorrow).
> 
> Marcus

Thanks,

I've finished checking the links for Mac, and Linux 64bit (deb and rpm)
they all seem fine. 

Rob checked windows, has anyone else already checked the 32 bit linux
stuff?

//drew

> 
> 
> 
> >> On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 18:41 -0400, drew wrote:
> >>> OK one bad link on the other downloads page, so far
> >>>
> >>> The Mac en_US language pack points to:
> >>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/
> >>>
> >>> back to it..
> >>>
> >>> //drew
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 00:15 +0200, Jürgen Lange wrote:
> >>>> For me it's working also. After checking the links, I have downloaded
> >>>> the german version for windows, have installed it (Windows XP SP3) and
> >>>> made first tests. All is working fine so far.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jürgen
> >>>>
> >>>> Am 23.08.2012 00:09, schrieb Rob Weir:
> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:58 PM, drew<dr...@baseanswers.com>  wrote:
> >>>>>> On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 17:29 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
> >>>>>>> So some possible confusion coming.  I'm seeing a few websites have
> >>>>>>> already announced 3.4.1 and are pushing users to www.openoffice.org.
> >>>>>>> Of course, they are not finding AOO 3.4.1 there yet.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> For example this article is being spread via Twitter:
> >>>>>>> http://majorgeeks.com/Apache_OpenOffice.org_For_Windows_d3461.html
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> And I can see, via Google Analytics, that we're getting a good amount
> >>>>>>> of traffic referred to from that site.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So I'm going to spent the next hour or so verifying the download page.
> >>>>>>>    If others can help with this, please do:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/other.html
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'll start going down the left-most column.  If someone else can start
> >>>>>>> on the right-most column (Mac) we should have this done quickly and be
> >>>>>>> able to publish that page.
> >>>>>> doing it now...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> It is all working for me so far.  I'm not seeing any links failing
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I've also updated the Japanese and French NL pages.  The Italian and
> >>>>> Spanish pages seem to be hooked into the same Javascript we use on the
> >>>>> main download page, so I'm hoping they will point to the 3.4.1 release
> >>>>> automatically when we push the updates to that script.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Rob
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -Rob
> 



Re: BAD link

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 08/23/2012 12:54 AM, schrieb Rob Weir:
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 6:50 PM, drew<dr...@baseanswers.com>  wrote:
>> One more incorrect link
>>
>> The SDK release notes points to:
>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/sdk/index.html
>>
>
> That one appears to be dead in the live page as well:
> http://www.openoffice.org/sdk/index.html
>
> It is supposed to be a link to release notes for the SDK.  Do we even
> have release notes there?  Did we with 3.4.0?

I've corrected the link and adjusted the text on the underlying webpage 
a bit.

In the ".../download/sdk/" dir there are no release notes for a AOO 
release. Hm, maybe Juergen can tell us more (tomorrow).

Marcus



>> On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 18:41 -0400, drew wrote:
>>> OK one bad link on the other downloads page, so far
>>>
>>> The Mac en_US language pack points to:
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/
>>>
>>> back to it..
>>>
>>> //drew
>>>
>>> On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 00:15 +0200, Jürgen Lange wrote:
>>>> For me it's working also. After checking the links, I have downloaded
>>>> the german version for windows, have installed it (Windows XP SP3) and
>>>> made first tests. All is working fine so far.
>>>>
>>>> Jürgen
>>>>
>>>> Am 23.08.2012 00:09, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:58 PM, drew<dr...@baseanswers.com>  wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 17:29 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>>> So some possible confusion coming.  I'm seeing a few websites have
>>>>>>> already announced 3.4.1 and are pushing users to www.openoffice.org.
>>>>>>> Of course, they are not finding AOO 3.4.1 there yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For example this article is being spread via Twitter:
>>>>>>> http://majorgeeks.com/Apache_OpenOffice.org_For_Windows_d3461.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And I can see, via Google Analytics, that we're getting a good amount
>>>>>>> of traffic referred to from that site.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I'm going to spent the next hour or so verifying the download page.
>>>>>>>    If others can help with this, please do:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/other.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll start going down the left-most column.  If someone else can start
>>>>>>> on the right-most column (Mac) we should have this done quickly and be
>>>>>>> able to publish that page.
>>>>>> doing it now...
>>>>>>
>>>>> It is all working for me so far.  I'm not seeing any links failing
>>>>>
>>>>> I've also updated the Japanese and French NL pages.  The Italian and
>>>>> Spanish pages seem to be hooked into the same Javascript we use on the
>>>>> main download page, so I'm hoping they will point to the 3.4.1 release
>>>>> automatically when we push the updates to that script.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Rob

Re: BAD link (was: Fwd: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2_

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 6:50 PM, drew <dr...@baseanswers.com> wrote:
> One more incorrect link
>
> The SDK release notes points to:
> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/sdk/index.html
>

That one appears to be dead in the live page as well:
http://www.openoffice.org/sdk/index.html

It is supposed to be a link to release notes for the SDK.  Do we even
have release notes there?  Did we with 3.4.0?

-Rob

> //drew
>
> On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 18:41 -0400, drew wrote:
>> OK one bad link on the other downloads page, so far
>>
>> The Mac en_US language pack points to:
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/
>>
>> back to it..
>>
>> //drew
>>
>> On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 00:15 +0200, Jürgen Lange wrote:
>> > For me it's working also. After checking the links, I have downloaded
>> > the german version for windows, have installed it (Windows XP SP3) and
>> > made first tests. All is working fine so far.
>> >
>> > Jürgen
>> >
>> > Am 23.08.2012 00:09, schrieb Rob Weir:
>> > > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:58 PM, drew <dr...@baseanswers.com> wrote:
>> > >> On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 17:29 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
>> > >>> So some possible confusion coming.  I'm seeing a few websites have
>> > >>> already announced 3.4.1 and are pushing users to www.openoffice.org.
>> > >>> Of course, they are not finding AOO 3.4.1 there yet.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> For example this article is being spread via Twitter:
>> > >>> http://majorgeeks.com/Apache_OpenOffice.org_For_Windows_d3461.html
>> > >>>
>> > >>> And I can see, via Google Analytics, that we're getting a good amount
>> > >>> of traffic referred to from that site.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> So I'm going to spent the next hour or so verifying the download page.
>> > >>>   If others can help with this, please do:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/other.html
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I'll start going down the left-most column.  If someone else can start
>> > >>> on the right-most column (Mac) we should have this done quickly and be
>> > >>> able to publish that page.
>> > >> doing it now...
>> > >>
>> > > It is all working for me so far.  I'm not seeing any links failing
>> > >
>> > > I've also updated the Japanese and French NL pages.  The Italian and
>> > > Spanish pages seem to be hooked into the same Javascript we use on the
>> > > main download page, so I'm hoping they will point to the 3.4.1 release
>> > > automatically when we push the updates to that script.
>> > >
>> > > -Rob
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >>> -Rob
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: BAD link (was: Fwd: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2_

Posted by drew <dr...@baseanswers.com>.
One more incorrect link

The SDK release notes points to:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/sdk/index.html

//drew

On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 18:41 -0400, drew wrote:
> OK one bad link on the other downloads page, so far
> 
> The Mac en_US language pack points to:
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/
> 
> back to it..
> 
> //drew
> 
> On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 00:15 +0200, Jürgen Lange wrote:
> > For me it's working also. After checking the links, I have downloaded 
> > the german version for windows, have installed it (Windows XP SP3) and 
> > made first tests. All is working fine so far.
> > 
> > Jürgen
> > 
> > Am 23.08.2012 00:09, schrieb Rob Weir:
> > > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:58 PM, drew <dr...@baseanswers.com> wrote:
> > >> On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 17:29 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
> > >>> So some possible confusion coming.  I'm seeing a few websites have
> > >>> already announced 3.4.1 and are pushing users to www.openoffice.org.
> > >>> Of course, they are not finding AOO 3.4.1 there yet.
> > >>>
> > >>> For example this article is being spread via Twitter:
> > >>> http://majorgeeks.com/Apache_OpenOffice.org_For_Windows_d3461.html
> > >>>
> > >>> And I can see, via Google Analytics, that we're getting a good amount
> > >>> of traffic referred to from that site.
> > >>>
> > >>> So I'm going to spent the next hour or so verifying the download page.
> > >>>   If others can help with this, please do:
> > >>>
> > >>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/other.html
> > >>>
> > >>> I'll start going down the left-most column.  If someone else can start
> > >>> on the right-most column (Mac) we should have this done quickly and be
> > >>> able to publish that page.
> > >> doing it now...
> > >>
> > > It is all working for me so far.  I'm not seeing any links failing
> > >
> > > I've also updated the Japanese and French NL pages.  The Italian and
> > > Spanish pages seem to be hooked into the same Javascript we use on the
> > > main download page, so I'm hoping they will point to the 3.4.1 release
> > > automatically when we push the updates to that script.
> > >
> > > -Rob
> > >
> > >>
> > >>> -Rob
> > >>>
> > >>
> > 
> 
> 
> 



Re: BAD link

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Marcus (OOo) <ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:

> Am 08/23/2012 01:27 AM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>
>  On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Am 08/23/2012 12:41 AM, schrieb drew:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> OK one bad link on the other downloads page, so far
>>>>
>>>> The Mac en_US language pack points to:
>>>> http://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**files/<http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/>
>>>>
>>>> back to it..
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It seems the langpacks for en-US are completely missing:
>>>
>>> http://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**
>>> files/stable/3.4.1/<http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stable/3.4.1/>
>>>
>>>
>> Missing on the Apache dist servers as well, e.g.:
>>
>> http://www.apache.org/dist/**incubator/ooo/files/stable/3.**4.1/<http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/stable/3.4.1/>
>>
>> We'll nede Juergen to upload that and SF to copy it.  With the time
>> zone difference (Hamburg versus California) this will not happen
>> quickly.
>>
>> Looking at the download stats I see it gets around 400 downloads per
>> day.    What if we pointed to the Apache mirrors tonight, and then
>> switch to SF once it is ready?
>>
>
> Good idea. 400 is too much to ignore for some hours or a day, especially
> on a release day with announcement.
>
>
>  The links would start with:
>>
>> http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-**closer.cgi/incubator/ooo/**
>> files/stable/3.4.1/<http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/incubator/ooo/files/stable/3.4.1/>
>>
>>
>> Would that make sense?
>>
>
> + the file name. Yes, that should do the trick.
>
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
Hi. I just got in a bit ago and am in the process of downloading Linux
32bit (from SF). Everything seems OK so far...I will double check when it's
finished and I unpack it. I'm not sure about the other situations you're
discussing here but for my situation, all is good.


>  On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 00:15 +0200, Jürgen Lange wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> For me it's working also. After checking the links, I have downloaded
>>>>> the german version for windows, have installed it (Windows XP SP3) and
>>>>> made first tests. All is working fine so far.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jürgen
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 23.08.2012 00:09, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:58 PM, drew<dr...@baseanswers.com>   wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 17:29 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So some possible confusion coming.  I'm seeing a few websites have
>>>>>>>> already announced 3.4.1 and are pushing users to www.openoffice.org
>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>> Of course, they are not finding AOO 3.4.1 there yet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For example this article is being spread via Twitter:
>>>>>>>> http://majorgeeks.com/Apache_**OpenOffice.org_For_Windows_**
>>>>>>>> d3461.html<http://majorgeeks.com/Apache_OpenOffice.org_For_Windows_d3461.html>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And I can see, via Google Analytics, that we're getting a good
>>>>>>>> amount
>>>>>>>> of traffic referred to from that site.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So I'm going to spent the next hour or so verifying the download
>>>>>>>> page.
>>>>>>>>     If others can help with this, please do:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/other.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/other.html>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll start going down the left-most column.  If someone else can
>>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>>> on the right-most column (Mac) we should have this done quickly and
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> able to publish that page.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> doing it now...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  It is all working for me so far.  I'm not seeing any links failing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've also updated the Japanese and French NL pages.  The Italian and
>>>>>> Spanish pages seem to be hooked into the same Javascript we use on the
>>>>>> main download page, so I'm hoping they will point to the 3.4.1 release
>>>>>> automatically when we push the updates to that script.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  -Rob
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>


-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK

"As a child my family's menu consisted of two choices:
    take it or leave it. "
                                   -- Buddy Hackett

Re: BAD link

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 08/23/2012 01:27 AM, schrieb Rob Weir:
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de>  wrote:
>> Am 08/23/2012 12:41 AM, schrieb drew:
>>>
>>> OK one bad link on the other downloads page, so far
>>>
>>> The Mac en_US language pack points to:
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/
>>>
>>> back to it..
>>
>>
>> It seems the langpacks for en-US are completely missing:
>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stable/3.4.1/
>>
>
> Missing on the Apache dist servers as well, e.g.:
>
> http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/stable/3.4.1/
>
> We'll nede Juergen to upload that and SF to copy it.  With the time
> zone difference (Hamburg versus California) this will not happen
> quickly.
>
> Looking at the download stats I see it gets around 400 downloads per
> day.    What if we pointed to the Apache mirrors tonight, and then
> switch to SF once it is ready?

Good idea. 400 is too much to ignore for some hours or a day, especially 
on a release day with announcement.

> The links would start with:
>
> http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/incubator/ooo/files/stable/3.4.1/
>
>
> Would that make sense?

+ the file name. Yes, that should do the trick.

Marcus



>>> On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 00:15 +0200, Jürgen Lange wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For me it's working also. After checking the links, I have downloaded
>>>> the german version for windows, have installed it (Windows XP SP3) and
>>>> made first tests. All is working fine so far.
>>>>
>>>> Jürgen
>>>>
>>>> Am 23.08.2012 00:09, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:58 PM, drew<dr...@baseanswers.com>   wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 17:29 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So some possible confusion coming.  I'm seeing a few websites have
>>>>>>> already announced 3.4.1 and are pushing users to www.openoffice.org.
>>>>>>> Of course, they are not finding AOO 3.4.1 there yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For example this article is being spread via Twitter:
>>>>>>> http://majorgeeks.com/Apache_OpenOffice.org_For_Windows_d3461.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And I can see, via Google Analytics, that we're getting a good amount
>>>>>>> of traffic referred to from that site.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I'm going to spent the next hour or so verifying the download page.
>>>>>>>     If others can help with this, please do:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/other.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll start going down the left-most column.  If someone else can start
>>>>>>> on the right-most column (Mac) we should have this done quickly and be
>>>>>>> able to publish that page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> doing it now...
>>>>>>
>>>>> It is all working for me so far.  I'm not seeing any links failing
>>>>>
>>>>> I've also updated the Japanese and French NL pages.  The Italian and
>>>>> Spanish pages seem to be hooked into the same Javascript we use on the
>>>>> main download page, so I'm hoping they will point to the 3.4.1 release
>>>>> automatically when we push the updates to that script.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Rob

Re: BAD link

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 23/08/2012 Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> IIRC OOo never released en-US language packs, that's why many
> people working in translation, needing to check some UI string in
> English, ended up installing the en-GB language pack.

Exactly. And this often happened also for volunteers busy with QA 
activities: a bug report in IssueZilla is supposed to use the English 
form for commands and menus, to make it easier for developers to 
reproduce the problem.

Regards,
   Andrea.

Re: BAD link

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 08/23/2012 09:49 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
> Am 08/23/2012 03:57 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
>> On 8/23/12 3:03 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>> On 8/23/12 2:28 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 02:18:22PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>>>> I was too fast and should have read the thread completely.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't remember the reason why I left out the en-US lang packs, we
>>>>> should check if they are necessary at all or if en-US is always there.
>>>>
>>>> If you install a localized install set, you get only that localized
>>>> language. IIRC OOo never released en-US language packs, that's why many
>>>> people working in translation, needing to check some UI string in
>>>> English, ended up installing the en-GB language pack. Although for this
>>>> use case, it would be better to provide archived versions.
>>>>
>>>> It would be interesting to know the statistics, from which countries
>>>> where those en-US language packs downloaded.
>>>
>>> seems to be room for improvements, maybe we should think about
>>> multi-lang office with 2 langs -> en-US + 1 lang or move forward with
>>> the en-US language pack
>>
>> the easier part is to provide the en-US language packs that we have
>> voted on and that were part of the snapshot builds. I still don't know
>> why I have left them out... Maybe I simply have overseen them because of
>> our stupid directory structure I have to copy en-US separately. But that
>
> Yeah, yeah, understood the hidden wink. Will change with the next bigger
> release. ;-)
>
>> should be no excuse ;-) By the way I have copied them already on dist.
>
> OK, that would be also my suggestion. I don't see a reason to exclude
> them, too.
>
>> I will also work on some SDK release notes but I am not sure if I will
>> finish this before I go on vacation on Saturday. I have some other
>> things on my to-do list first.
>
> That sounds nice. You really deserve many days off. :-)

The en-US langpacks are available also on SourceForge. So, I've added 
the links back to the "other.html" webpage.

Marcus

Re: BAD link

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 08/23/2012 03:57 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
> On 8/23/12 3:03 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> On 8/23/12 2:28 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
>>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 02:18:22PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>>> I was too fast and should have read the thread completely.
>>>>
>>>> I can't remember the reason why I left out the en-US lang packs, we
>>>> should check if they are necessary at all or if en-US is always there.
>>>
>>> If you install a localized install set, you get only that localized
>>> language. IIRC OOo never released en-US language packs, that's why many
>>> people working in translation, needing to check some UI string in
>>> English, ended up installing the en-GB language pack. Although for this
>>> use case, it would be better to provide archived versions.
>>>
>>> It would be interesting to know the statistics, from which countries
>>> where those en-US language packs downloaded.
>>
>> seems to be room for improvements, maybe we should think about
>> multi-lang office with 2 langs ->  en-US + 1 lang  or move forward with
>> the en-US language pack
>
> the easier part is to provide the en-US language packs that we have
> voted on and that were part of the snapshot builds. I still don't know
> why I have left them out... Maybe I simply have overseen them because of
> our stupid directory structure I have to copy en-US separately. But that

Yeah, yeah, understood the hidden wink. Will change with the next bigger 
release. ;-)

> should be no excuse ;-) By the way I have copied them already on dist.

OK, that would be also my suggestion. I don't see a reason to exclude 
them, too.

> I will also work on some SDK release notes but I am not sure if I will
> finish this before I go on vacation on Saturday. I have some other
> things on my to-do list first.

That sounds nice. You really deserve many days off. :-)

Ciao

Marcus


Re: BAD link

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 8/23/12 3:03 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> On 8/23/12 2:28 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 02:18:22PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>> I was too fast and should have read the thread completely.
>>>
>>> I can't remember the reason why I left out the en-US lang packs, we
>>> should check if they are necessary at all or if en-US is always there.
>>
>> If you install a localized install set, you get only that localized
>> language. IIRC OOo never released en-US language packs, that's why many
>> people working in translation, needing to check some UI string in
>> English, ended up installing the en-GB language pack. Although for this
>> use case, it would be better to provide archived versions.
>>
>> It would be interesting to know the statistics, from which countries
>> where those en-US language packs downloaded.
> 
> seems to be room for improvements, maybe we should think about
> multi-lang office with 2 langs -> en-US + 1 lang  or move forward with
> the en-US language pack

the easier part is to provide the en-US language packs that we have
voted on and that were part of the snapshot builds. I still don't know
why I have left them out... Maybe I simply have overseen them because of
our stupid directory structure I have to copy en-US separately. But that
should be no excuse ;-) By the way I have copied them already on dist.
I will also work on some SDK release notes but I am not sure if I will
finish this before I go on vacation on Saturday. I have some other
things on my to-do list first.

Juergen

Re: BAD link

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 8/23/12 2:28 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 02:18:22PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> I was too fast and should have read the thread completely.
>>
>> I can't remember the reason why I left out the en-US lang packs, we
>> should check if they are necessary at all or if en-US is always there.
> 
> If you install a localized install set, you get only that localized
> language. IIRC OOo never released en-US language packs, that's why many
> people working in translation, needing to check some UI string in
> English, ended up installing the en-GB language pack. Although for this
> use case, it would be better to provide archived versions.
> 
> It would be interesting to know the statistics, from which countries
> where those en-US language packs downloaded.

seems to be room for improvements, maybe we should think about
multi-lang office with 2 langs -> en-US + 1 lang  or move forward with
the en-US language pack

Juergen

Re: BAD link

Posted by Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 09:03:35AM -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
> <ar...@apache.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 02:18:22PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> >> I was too fast and should have read the thread completely.
> >>
> >> I can't remember the reason why I left out the en-US lang packs, we
> >> should check if they are necessary at all or if en-US is always there.
> >
> > If you install a localized install set, you get only that localized
> > language. IIRC OOo never released en-US language packs, that's why many
> > people working in translation, needing to check some UI string in
> > English, ended up installing the en-GB language pack. Although for this
> > use case, it would be better to provide archived versions.
> >
> > It would be interesting to know the statistics, from which countries
> > where those en-US language packs downloaded.
> >
> 
> I've updated the download page to remove the en-US langpack links.  We
> can add them back in a day or two, once the files have been uploaded
> and synched.
> 
> The stats I have for AOO 3.4.0 show that this langpack was download
> around 400/day.  So not huge.  I don't have the country breakdown in
> front of me, but I can run a report on it if you are interested.

If would be interesting, if I had any idea about what would these
numbers mean ;) If we see downloads coming from very specifics countries
with languages for which we provide full install sets, would it mean
that the translation is poor or incomplete at some point, and the user
prefers to switch to en-US? Hard to guess.


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina

Re: BAD link

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
<ar...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 02:18:22PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> I was too fast and should have read the thread completely.
>>
>> I can't remember the reason why I left out the en-US lang packs, we
>> should check if they are necessary at all or if en-US is always there.
>
> If you install a localized install set, you get only that localized
> language. IIRC OOo never released en-US language packs, that's why many
> people working in translation, needing to check some UI string in
> English, ended up installing the en-GB language pack. Although for this
> use case, it would be better to provide archived versions.
>
> It would be interesting to know the statistics, from which countries
> where those en-US language packs downloaded.
>

I've updated the download page to remove the en-US langpack links.  We
can add them back in a day or two, once the files have been uploaded
and synched.

The stats I have for AOO 3.4.0 show that this langpack was download
around 400/day.  So not huge.  I don't have the country breakdown in
front of me, but I can run a report on it if you are interested.

In any case, are we ready to publish the blog and website now?  I think we are.

-Rob

>
> Regards
> --
> Ariel Constenla-Haile
> La Plata, Argentina

Re: BAD link

Posted by Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 02:18:22PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> I was too fast and should have read the thread completely.
> 
> I can't remember the reason why I left out the en-US lang packs, we
> should check if they are necessary at all or if en-US is always there.

If you install a localized install set, you get only that localized
language. IIRC OOo never released en-US language packs, that's why many
people working in translation, needing to check some UI string in
English, ended up installing the en-GB language pack. Although for this
use case, it would be better to provide archived versions.

It would be interesting to know the statistics, from which countries
where those en-US language packs downloaded.


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina

Re: BAD link

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 8/23/12 2:00 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> On 8/23/12 1:27 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Marcus (OOo) <ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:
>>> Am 08/23/2012 12:41 AM, schrieb drew:
>>>>
>>>> OK one bad link on the other downloads page, so far
>>>>
>>>> The Mac en_US language pack points to:
>>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/
>>>>
>>>> back to it..
>>>
>>>
>>> It seems the langpacks for en-US are completely missing:
>>>
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stable/3.4.1/
>>>
>>
>> Missing on the Apache dist servers as well, e.g.:
>>
>> http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/stable/3.4.1/
>>
>> We'll nede Juergen to upload that and SF to copy it.  With the time
>> zone difference (Hamburg versus California) this will not happen
>> quickly.
> 
> seems that I missed the en-US language packs, I will upload them
> 
>>
>> Looking at the download stats I see it gets around 400 downloads per
>> day.    What if we pointed to the Apache mirrors tonight, and then
>> switch to SF once it is ready?
>>
>> The links would start with:
>>
>> http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/incubator/ooo/files/stable/3.4.1/
>>
>>
> 
> sounds ok to me and will cause not too much traffic temporary until the
> mirrors are synched.

I was too fast and should have read the thread completely.

I can't remember the reason why I left out the en-US lang packs, we
should check if they are necessary at all or if en-US is always there.

We should remove the link for now until we have checked it.

I will also do more checks on the staging pages to get an overview where
we exactly are ...

Juergen


> 
> Juergen
> 
>> Would that make sense?
>>
>>> Marcus
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 00:15 +0200, Jürgen Lange wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> For me it's working also. After checking the links, I have downloaded
>>>>> the german version for windows, have installed it (Windows XP SP3) and
>>>>> made first tests. All is working fine so far.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jürgen
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 23.08.2012 00:09, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:58 PM, drew<dr...@baseanswers.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 17:29 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So some possible confusion coming.  I'm seeing a few websites have
>>>>>>>> already announced 3.4.1 and are pushing users to www.openoffice.org.
>>>>>>>> Of course, they are not finding AOO 3.4.1 there yet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For example this article is being spread via Twitter:
>>>>>>>> http://majorgeeks.com/Apache_OpenOffice.org_For_Windows_d3461.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And I can see, via Google Analytics, that we're getting a good amount
>>>>>>>> of traffic referred to from that site.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So I'm going to spent the next hour or so verifying the download page.
>>>>>>>>    If others can help with this, please do:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/other.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll start going down the left-most column.  If someone else can start
>>>>>>>> on the right-most column (Mac) we should have this done quickly and be
>>>>>>>> able to publish that page.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> doing it now...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is all working for me so far.  I'm not seeing any links failing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've also updated the Japanese and French NL pages.  The Italian and
>>>>>> Spanish pages seem to be hooked into the same Javascript we use on the
>>>>>> main download page, so I'm hoping they will point to the 3.4.1 release
>>>>>> automatically when we push the updates to that script.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Rob
> 


Re: BAD link

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 8/23/12 1:27 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Marcus (OOo) <ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:
>> Am 08/23/2012 12:41 AM, schrieb drew:
>>>
>>> OK one bad link on the other downloads page, so far
>>>
>>> The Mac en_US language pack points to:
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/
>>>
>>> back to it..
>>
>>
>> It seems the langpacks for en-US are completely missing:
>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stable/3.4.1/
>>
> 
> Missing on the Apache dist servers as well, e.g.:
> 
> http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/stable/3.4.1/
> 
> We'll nede Juergen to upload that and SF to copy it.  With the time
> zone difference (Hamburg versus California) this will not happen
> quickly.

seems that I missed the en-US language packs, I will upload them

> 
> Looking at the download stats I see it gets around 400 downloads per
> day.    What if we pointed to the Apache mirrors tonight, and then
> switch to SF once it is ready?
> 
> The links would start with:
> 
> http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/incubator/ooo/files/stable/3.4.1/
> 
> 

sounds ok to me and will cause not too much traffic temporary until the
mirrors are synched.

Juergen

> Would that make sense?
> 
>> Marcus
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 00:15 +0200, Jürgen Lange wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For me it's working also. After checking the links, I have downloaded
>>>> the german version for windows, have installed it (Windows XP SP3) and
>>>> made first tests. All is working fine so far.
>>>>
>>>> Jürgen
>>>>
>>>> Am 23.08.2012 00:09, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:58 PM, drew<dr...@baseanswers.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 17:29 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So some possible confusion coming.  I'm seeing a few websites have
>>>>>>> already announced 3.4.1 and are pushing users to www.openoffice.org.
>>>>>>> Of course, they are not finding AOO 3.4.1 there yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For example this article is being spread via Twitter:
>>>>>>> http://majorgeeks.com/Apache_OpenOffice.org_For_Windows_d3461.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And I can see, via Google Analytics, that we're getting a good amount
>>>>>>> of traffic referred to from that site.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I'm going to spent the next hour or so verifying the download page.
>>>>>>>    If others can help with this, please do:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/other.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll start going down the left-most column.  If someone else can start
>>>>>>> on the right-most column (Mac) we should have this done quickly and be
>>>>>>> able to publish that page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> doing it now...
>>>>>>
>>>>> It is all working for me so far.  I'm not seeing any links failing
>>>>>
>>>>> I've also updated the Japanese and French NL pages.  The Italian and
>>>>> Spanish pages seem to be hooked into the same Javascript we use on the
>>>>> main download page, so I'm hoping they will point to the 3.4.1 release
>>>>> automatically when we push the updates to that script.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Rob


Re: BAD link

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
<ar...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 08:36:56PM -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
>> > We'll nede Juergen to upload that and SF to copy it.  With the time
>> > zone difference (Hamburg versus California) this will not happen
>> > quickly.
>> >
>> > Looking at the download stats I see it gets around 400 downloads per
>> > day.
>
> Interesting numbers, IIRC OpenOffice.org never released en-US language
> packs.
>
>
>> > What if we pointed to the Apache mirrors tonight, and then
>> > switch to SF once it is ready?
>> >
>> > The links would start with:
>> >
>> > http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/incubator/ooo/files/stable/3.4.1/
>> >
>>
>> Please ignore the above.  It is one of the stupidest things I've said
>> this week.  I first say the files are missing on the Apache dist
>> servers and then suggest that we point to the mirrors instead.  Doh!
>> Of course the mirrors sync from the dist servers.  So they are missing
>> the files as well.
>>
>> So in other words, no one has the en-US langpack except for the RC
>> copies on people.apache.org.
>
> Dummy question, but what if some one copies the files from our home
> folders to /www/www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/stable/3.4.1 ?
> I wasn't aware that we had access to this folder directly....
>
> arielch@minotaur:/www/www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/stable/3.4.1$ pwd
> /www/www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/stable/3.4.1
>

These appear to be the instructions:

http://www.apache.org/dev/mirror-step-by-step.html

> Mmmm it looks like that folders should belong to the incubator group,
> and the group should have write access so that any committer can fix
> last minute bugs like this:
>
> arielch@minotaur:/www/www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/stable$ ls -l .
> total 45
> drwxrwxr-x  2 jsc  jsc  92 May  2 07:43 3.4.0
> drwxrwxr-x  2 jsc  jsc  50 Aug 21 19:33 3.4.1
>
>
> Regards
> --
> Ariel Constenla-Haile
> La Plata, Argentina

Re: BAD link

Posted by Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org>.
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 08:36:56PM -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
> > We'll nede Juergen to upload that and SF to copy it.  With the time
> > zone difference (Hamburg versus California) this will not happen
> > quickly.
> >
> > Looking at the download stats I see it gets around 400 downloads per
> > day.  

Interesting numbers, IIRC OpenOffice.org never released en-US language
packs.


> > What if we pointed to the Apache mirrors tonight, and then
> > switch to SF once it is ready?
> >
> > The links would start with:
> >
> > http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/incubator/ooo/files/stable/3.4.1/
> >
> 
> Please ignore the above.  It is one of the stupidest things I've said
> this week.  I first say the files are missing on the Apache dist
> servers and then suggest that we point to the mirrors instead.  Doh!
> Of course the mirrors sync from the dist servers.  So they are missing
> the files as well.
> 
> So in other words, no one has the en-US langpack except for the RC
> copies on people.apache.org.

Dummy question, but what if some one copies the files from our home
folders to /www/www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/stable/3.4.1 ?
I wasn't aware that we had access to this folder directly....

arielch@minotaur:/www/www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/stable/3.4.1$ pwd
/www/www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/stable/3.4.1

Mmmm it looks like that folders should belong to the incubator group,
and the group should have write access so that any committer can fix
last minute bugs like this:

arielch@minotaur:/www/www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/stable$ ls -l .
total 45
drwxrwxr-x  2 jsc  jsc  92 May  2 07:43 3.4.0
drwxrwxr-x  2 jsc  jsc  50 Aug 21 19:33 3.4.1


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina

Re: BAD link

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Marcus (OOo) <ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:
>> Am 08/23/2012 12:41 AM, schrieb drew:
>>>
>>> OK one bad link on the other downloads page, so far
>>>
>>> The Mac en_US language pack points to:
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/
>>>
>>> back to it..
>>
>>
>> It seems the langpacks for en-US are completely missing:
>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stable/3.4.1/
>>
>
> Missing on the Apache dist servers as well, e.g.:
>
> http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/stable/3.4.1/
>
> We'll nede Juergen to upload that and SF to copy it.  With the time
> zone difference (Hamburg versus California) this will not happen
> quickly.
>
> Looking at the download stats I see it gets around 400 downloads per
> day.    What if we pointed to the Apache mirrors tonight, and then
> switch to SF once it is ready?
>
> The links would start with:
>
> http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/incubator/ooo/files/stable/3.4.1/
>

Please ignore the above.  It is one of the stupidest things I've said
this week.  I first say the files are missing on the Apache dist
servers and then suggest that we point to the mirrors instead.  Doh!
Of course the mirrors sync from the dist servers.  So they are missing
the files as well.

So in other words, no one has the en-US langpack except for the RC
copies on people.apache.org.

So unless we're willing to go out tonight with a "check back tomorrow"
message for that language pack we'll need to wait until tomorrow for
these files to at least get onto SourceForge.

I'll revert the change I just made that pointed those links to the
Apache mirrors.

It is quite possible that this is all resolved before I wake up
tomorrow.  If so, please someone remember to publish the draft blog
post at the same time you publish the website, or within a few
minutes. They reference each other.

Regards,

-Rob


>
> Would that make sense?
>
>> Marcus
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 00:15 +0200, Jürgen Lange wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For me it's working also. After checking the links, I have downloaded
>>>> the german version for windows, have installed it (Windows XP SP3) and
>>>> made first tests. All is working fine so far.
>>>>
>>>> Jürgen
>>>>
>>>> Am 23.08.2012 00:09, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:58 PM, drew<dr...@baseanswers.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 17:29 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So some possible confusion coming.  I'm seeing a few websites have
>>>>>>> already announced 3.4.1 and are pushing users to www.openoffice.org.
>>>>>>> Of course, they are not finding AOO 3.4.1 there yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For example this article is being spread via Twitter:
>>>>>>> http://majorgeeks.com/Apache_OpenOffice.org_For_Windows_d3461.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And I can see, via Google Analytics, that we're getting a good amount
>>>>>>> of traffic referred to from that site.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I'm going to spent the next hour or so verifying the download page.
>>>>>>>    If others can help with this, please do:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/other.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll start going down the left-most column.  If someone else can start
>>>>>>> on the right-most column (Mac) we should have this done quickly and be
>>>>>>> able to publish that page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> doing it now...
>>>>>>
>>>>> It is all working for me so far.  I'm not seeing any links failing
>>>>>
>>>>> I've also updated the Japanese and French NL pages.  The Italian and
>>>>> Spanish pages seem to be hooked into the same Javascript we use on the
>>>>> main download page, so I'm hoping they will point to the 3.4.1 release
>>>>> automatically when we push the updates to that script.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Rob

Re: BAD link

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Marcus (OOo) <ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:
> Am 08/23/2012 12:41 AM, schrieb drew:
>>
>> OK one bad link on the other downloads page, so far
>>
>> The Mac en_US language pack points to:
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/
>>
>> back to it..
>
>
> It seems the langpacks for en-US are completely missing:
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stable/3.4.1/
>

Missing on the Apache dist servers as well, e.g.:

http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/stable/3.4.1/

We'll nede Juergen to upload that and SF to copy it.  With the time
zone difference (Hamburg versus California) this will not happen
quickly.

Looking at the download stats I see it gets around 400 downloads per
day.    What if we pointed to the Apache mirrors tonight, and then
switch to SF once it is ready?

The links would start with:

http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/incubator/ooo/files/stable/3.4.1/


Would that make sense?

> Marcus
>
>
>
>> On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 00:15 +0200, Jürgen Lange wrote:
>>>
>>> For me it's working also. After checking the links, I have downloaded
>>> the german version for windows, have installed it (Windows XP SP3) and
>>> made first tests. All is working fine so far.
>>>
>>> Jürgen
>>>
>>> Am 23.08.2012 00:09, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:58 PM, drew<dr...@baseanswers.com>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 17:29 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So some possible confusion coming.  I'm seeing a few websites have
>>>>>> already announced 3.4.1 and are pushing users to www.openoffice.org.
>>>>>> Of course, they are not finding AOO 3.4.1 there yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For example this article is being spread via Twitter:
>>>>>> http://majorgeeks.com/Apache_OpenOffice.org_For_Windows_d3461.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And I can see, via Google Analytics, that we're getting a good amount
>>>>>> of traffic referred to from that site.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I'm going to spent the next hour or so verifying the download page.
>>>>>>    If others can help with this, please do:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/other.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll start going down the left-most column.  If someone else can start
>>>>>> on the right-most column (Mac) we should have this done quickly and be
>>>>>> able to publish that page.
>>>>>
>>>>> doing it now...
>>>>>
>>>> It is all working for me so far.  I'm not seeing any links failing
>>>>
>>>> I've also updated the Japanese and French NL pages.  The Italian and
>>>> Spanish pages seem to be hooked into the same Javascript we use on the
>>>> main download page, so I'm hoping they will point to the 3.4.1 release
>>>> automatically when we push the updates to that script.
>>>>
>>>> -Rob
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> -Rob

Re: BAD link

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 08/23/2012 12:41 AM, schrieb drew:
> OK one bad link on the other downloads page, so far
>
> The Mac en_US language pack points to:
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/
>
> back to it..

It seems the langpacks for en-US are completely missing:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stable/3.4.1/

Marcus



> On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 00:15 +0200, Jürgen Lange wrote:
>> For me it's working also. After checking the links, I have downloaded
>> the german version for windows, have installed it (Windows XP SP3) and
>> made first tests. All is working fine so far.
>>
>> Jürgen
>>
>> Am 23.08.2012 00:09, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:58 PM, drew<dr...@baseanswers.com>  wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 17:29 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>> So some possible confusion coming.  I'm seeing a few websites have
>>>>> already announced 3.4.1 and are pushing users to www.openoffice.org.
>>>>> Of course, they are not finding AOO 3.4.1 there yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> For example this article is being spread via Twitter:
>>>>> http://majorgeeks.com/Apache_OpenOffice.org_For_Windows_d3461.html
>>>>>
>>>>> And I can see, via Google Analytics, that we're getting a good amount
>>>>> of traffic referred to from that site.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I'm going to spent the next hour or so verifying the download page.
>>>>>    If others can help with this, please do:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/other.html
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll start going down the left-most column.  If someone else can start
>>>>> on the right-most column (Mac) we should have this done quickly and be
>>>>> able to publish that page.
>>>> doing it now...
>>>>
>>> It is all working for me so far.  I'm not seeing any links failing
>>>
>>> I've also updated the Japanese and French NL pages.  The Italian and
>>> Spanish pages seem to be hooked into the same Javascript we use on the
>>> main download page, so I'm hoping they will point to the 3.4.1 release
>>> automatically when we push the updates to that script.
>>>
>>> -Rob
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -Rob