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Posted to user@openmeetings.apache.org by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au> on 2012/05/06 23:51:02 UTC
FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
Hi,
What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language files
?
I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common
(undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You can
fill up other language files the english one. However all language files
should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset."
What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same
English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is there a way to
ask others to check and update any languages that they are proficient
in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to
follow, if so, please let me know.
I noticed that the Japanese file has
<string id="262" name="salutation_miss">
<value>Ms.</value>
</string>
Thanks,
George Kirkham
RE: 80
Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Stephen,
I don’t have any wildcard certs and we only have one cert for another secure subdomain, and like you guessed, I was going to create my own cert, and then it OpenMeetings becomes popular with our staff, I would then (like) to purchase a wild card cert as that would be very handy for other subdomains I have in mind.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
From: Stephen Cottham [mailto:Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2012 5:22 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
George,
Do you currently have any SSL certs to do this? Are they wild card certs? (*.domain.com ?)
Or are you going to get new ones for this service?
Cheers
From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 9 May 2012 8:36 AM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
Stephen,
“I can help you with the setup of this if you want?”, yes please.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
W: www.co2crc.com.au
From: Stephen Cottham [mailto:Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 9 May 2012 4:37 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
Hey George,
HTTPS is working fine apart from the screen record function, this is currently with the devs to isolate the problem so hopefully they will have a solution for that soon.
IMO if OM is to be used in Production and public facing it should be encrypted – especially if LDAP authentication is being used.
I can help you with the setup of this if you want, assuming you have some SSL certs for your domain?
Best Regards
From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 May 2012 11:54 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
Stephen,
I just did a test with nobody, and there are no entries in any of the logs. If you meant some other kind of logging, then I am not aware how to enable this.
I tried using a different (standard) User ID, but this did not allow OpenMeetings to run either.
Something to follow up on later.
Can you tell me how you manage to get port 443 working? I would like to try that instead of port 80. I had understood (hopefully mistakenly) that there were issues running OpenMeeting under port 443 ?
Thanks,
George Kirkham
From: Stephen Cottham [mailto:Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 9 May 2012 7:36 AM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
What did the debug trace show?
I've not tried port 80 tbh but I do run fine on https (443) with no issues.
Sent from my iPhone
On 8 May 2012, at 22:24, "George Kirkham" <gk...@co2crc.com.au> wrote:
Stephen,
The server is only for OpenMeetings, so no Apache running (or installed), and nothing else on that port.
I did find the difference, in my first server I was running openMeetings as the root user, but with subsequent servers I had been using nobody. Running OpenMeetings under nobody works well for port 5080, but not for port 80, and I cannot understand why that might be.
One thing I could try is to create a full account called “openmeetings” which has a home directory and then try running OpenMeetings under this account. Sometimes software requires an account with a home directory, not just a dummy account.
I believe the issue is related with OpenMeetings code somewhere, as the Red5 server is running and accepting connections (root), just when you try to run OpenMeetings itself, that fails.
If I get success at any time, I will post back, but first I wanted to learn if anyone was familiar with the issue, and it looks like everyone else has their OpenMeetings servers either using port 5080 or are successfully running under ‘nobody’.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
W: www.co2crc.com.au
Stephen Cottham
Group IT Manager (Associate)
Robert Bird Group
Level 5, 333 Ann St
Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)
Phone: +44207 592 8000 (UK)
Fax: +6173 319 2799
Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)
Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)
Web: www.robertbird.com <http://www.robertbird.com/>
<http://www.robertbird.com.au/>
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From: Stephen Cottham [mailto:Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:34 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
You aren’t using Apache on the new Debian server are you?
If Apache is running on port 80 then they will conflict.
To aid in finding the problem, If you go here
/usr/lib/red5
Then chmod 755 red5-debug.sh
Then start it using the debug mode
./red5-debug.sh
This will tell you more about why its failing to start.
Cheers
Stephen Cottham
Group IT Manager (Associate)
Robert Bird Group
Level 5, 333 Ann St
Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)
Phone: +44207 592 8000 (UK)
Fax: +6173 319 2799
Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)
Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)
Web: www.robertbird.com <http://www.robertbird.com/>
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From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 May 2012 1:24 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
Hi,
Has anyone had success/issues with using port 80 instead of port 5080.
I have a number of Debian OpenMeetings servers. The first that I built I have configured using port 80 instead of port 5080, and all works well.
Since that time I have built a few more Debian OpenMeetings servers and I cannot get any of them to work with port 80. I really do not think the issue is with OpenMeetings or its configuration, because I can copy the entire “red5” folder from the new servers to the first (working) server and it will work on port 80.
I am hoping that someone may have had similar issues and knows how to resolved it.
/usr/lib/red5/conf/red5.properties
# HTTP
http.host=0.0.0.0
http.port=80
https.port=8443
http.URIEncoding=UTF-8
/usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/config.xml
<red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
W: www.co2crc.com.au
From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
Sent: Monday, 7 May 2012 9:19 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
Thanks, Sebastian for your comments. It is good to know.
George Kirkham
From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 7 May 2012 5:23 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
Hi George,
What is it that I should add to all the other language files?
=> It makes it more easy to give a complete (but not fully translated) file to translators. Lots of people tend to just download the language-xml file and translate that. If those files are all incomplete or certain labels are missing that this is just too confusing.
The same English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
modify for the languages that they are proficient in?
=> Yes you can fill them up in English and hope that some translators will look into that file. Of course it might take months or even years until really all languages are filled up. You could also use translate.google.com and look for a translation.
Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to follow, if so, please let me know.
=> If you edit the XML files please don't add linebreaks (some editors do that automatically), if you want to include a "save" linebreak you would actually enter something like this:
<br/>
(this is XML encoded HTML linebreak "<br/>")
Sebastian
2012/5/6 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
Hi,
What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language files
?
I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common
(undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You can
fill up other language files the english one. However all language files
should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset."
What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same
English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is there a way to
ask others to check and update any languages that they are proficient
in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to
follow, if so, please let me know.
I noticed that the Japanese file has
<string id="262" name="salutation_miss">
<value>Ms.</value>
</string>
Thanks,
George Kirkham
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de>
http://www.webbase-design.de <http://www.webbase-design.de>
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RE: 80
Posted by Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>.
George,
Do you currently have any SSL certs to do this? Are they wild card certs? (*.domain.com ?)
Or are you going to get new ones for this service?
Cheers
From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 9 May 2012 8:36 AM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
Stephen,
“I can help you with the setup of this if you want?”, yes please.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
W: www.co2crc.com.au
From: Stephen Cottham [mailto:Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 9 May 2012 4:37 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
Hey George,
HTTPS is working fine apart from the screen record function, this is currently with the devs to isolate the problem so hopefully they will have a solution for that soon.
IMO if OM is to be used in Production and public facing it should be encrypted – especially if LDAP authentication is being used.
I can help you with the setup of this if you want, assuming you have some SSL certs for your domain?
Best Regards
From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 May 2012 11:54 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
Stephen,
I just did a test with nobody, and there are no entries in any of the logs. If you meant some other kind of logging, then I am not aware how to enable this.
I tried using a different (standard) User ID, but this did not allow OpenMeetings to run either.
Something to follow up on later.
Can you tell me how you manage to get port 443 working? I would like to try that instead of port 80. I had understood (hopefully mistakenly) that there were issues running OpenMeeting under port 443 ?
Thanks,
George Kirkham
From: Stephen Cottham [mailto:Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 9 May 2012 7:36 AM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
What did the debug trace show?
I've not tried port 80 tbh but I do run fine on https (443) with no issues.
Sent from my iPhone
On 8 May 2012, at 22:24, "George Kirkham" <gk...@co2crc.com.au> wrote:
Stephen,
The server is only for OpenMeetings, so no Apache running (or installed), and nothing else on that port.
I did find the difference, in my first server I was running openMeetings as the root user, but with subsequent servers I had been using nobody. Running OpenMeetings under nobody works well for port 5080, but not for port 80, and I cannot understand why that might be.
One thing I could try is to create a full account called “openmeetings” which has a home directory and then try running OpenMeetings under this account. Sometimes software requires an account with a home directory, not just a dummy account.
I believe the issue is related with OpenMeetings code somewhere, as the Red5 server is running and accepting connections (root), just when you try to run OpenMeetings itself, that fails.
If I get success at any time, I will post back, but first I wanted to learn if anyone was familiar with the issue, and it looks like everyone else has their OpenMeetings servers either using port 5080 or are successfully running under ‘nobody’.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
W: www.co2crc.com.au
Stephen Cottham
Group IT Manager (Associate)
Robert Bird Group
Level 5, 333 Ann St
Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)
Phone: +44207 592 8000 (UK)
Fax: +6173 319 2799
Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)
Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)
Web: www.robertbird.com <http://www.robertbird.com/>
<http://www.robertbird.com.au/>
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From: Stephen Cottham [mailto:Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:34 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
You aren’t using Apache on the new Debian server are you?
If Apache is running on port 80 then they will conflict.
To aid in finding the problem, If you go here
/usr/lib/red5
Then chmod 755 red5-debug.sh
Then start it using the debug mode
./red5-debug.sh
This will tell you more about why its failing to start.
Cheers
Stephen Cottham
Group IT Manager (Associate)
Robert Bird Group
Level 5, 333 Ann St
Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)
Phone: +44207 592 8000 (UK)
Fax: +6173 319 2799
Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)
Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)
Web: www.robertbird.com <http://www.robertbird.com/>
<image001.gif> <http://www.robertbird.com.au/>
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From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 May 2012 1:24 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
Hi,
Has anyone had success/issues with using port 80 instead of port 5080.
I have a number of Debian OpenMeetings servers. The first that I built I have configured using port 80 instead of port 5080, and all works well.
Since that time I have built a few more Debian OpenMeetings servers and I cannot get any of them to work with port 80. I really do not think the issue is with OpenMeetings or its configuration, because I can copy the entire “red5” folder from the new servers to the first (working) server and it will work on port 80.
I am hoping that someone may have had similar issues and knows how to resolved it.
/usr/lib/red5/conf/red5.properties
# HTTP
http.host=0.0.0.0
http.port=80
https.port=8443
http.URIEncoding=UTF-8
/usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/config.xml
<red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
W: www.co2crc.com.au
From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
Sent: Monday, 7 May 2012 9:19 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
Thanks, Sebastian for your comments. It is good to know.
George Kirkham
From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 7 May 2012 5:23 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
Hi George,
What is it that I should add to all the other language files?
=> It makes it more easy to give a complete (but not fully translated) file to translators. Lots of people tend to just download the language-xml file and translate that. If those files are all incomplete or certain labels are missing that this is just too confusing.
The same English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
modify for the languages that they are proficient in?
=> Yes you can fill them up in English and hope that some translators will look into that file. Of course it might take months or even years until really all languages are filled up. You could also use translate.google.com and look for a translation.
Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to follow, if so, please let me know.
=> If you edit the XML files please don't add linebreaks (some editors do that automatically), if you want to include a "save" linebreak you would actually enter something like this:
<br/>
(this is XML encoded HTML linebreak "<br/>")
Sebastian
2012/5/6 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
Hi,
What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language files
?
I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common
(undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You can
fill up other language files the english one. However all language files
should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset."
What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same
English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is there a way to
ask others to check and update any languages that they are proficient
in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to
follow, if so, please let me know.
I noticed that the Japanese file has
<string id="262" name="salutation_miss">
<value>Ms.</value>
</string>
Thanks,
George Kirkham
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de>
http://www.webbase-design.de <http://www.webbase-design.de>
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com <http://www.wagner-sebastian.com>
seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
Stephen Cottham
Group IT Manager (Associate)
Robert Bird Group
Level 5, 333 Ann St
Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)
Phone: +44207 592 8000 (UK)
Fax: +6173 319 2799
Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)
Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)
Web: www.robertbird.com
This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain legally privileged information or copyright material. Unless expressly stated, confidentiality and/or legal privilege is not intended to be waived by the sending of this email. The contents of this email, including any attachments, are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, please contact us immediately by return email and then delete both messages. You may not otherwise read, forward, copy, use or disclose this email or any attachments. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual sender except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states otherwise. It is your responsibility to check any attachments for viruses or defects before opening or sending them on. None of the sender or its related entities accepts any liability for any consequential damage resulting from this email containing computer viruses.
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RE: 80
Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Stephen,
“I can help you with the setup of this if you want?”, yes please.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
W: www.co2crc.com.au
From: Stephen Cottham [mailto:Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 9 May 2012 4:37 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
Hey George,
HTTPS is working fine apart from the screen record function, this is currently with the devs to isolate the problem so hopefully they will have a solution for that soon.
IMO if OM is to be used in Production and public facing it should be encrypted – especially if LDAP authentication is being used.
I can help you with the setup of this if you want, assuming you have some SSL certs for your domain?
Best Regards
From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 May 2012 11:54 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
Stephen,
I just did a test with nobody, and there are no entries in any of the logs. If you meant some other kind of logging, then I am not aware how to enable this.
I tried using a different (standard) User ID, but this did not allow OpenMeetings to run either.
Something to follow up on later.
Can you tell me how you manage to get port 443 working? I would like to try that instead of port 80. I had understood (hopefully mistakenly) that there were issues running OpenMeeting under port 443 ?
Thanks,
George Kirkham
From: Stephen Cottham [mailto:Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 9 May 2012 7:36 AM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
What did the debug trace show?
I've not tried port 80 tbh but I do run fine on https (443) with no issues.
Sent from my iPhone
On 8 May 2012, at 22:24, "George Kirkham" <gk...@co2crc.com.au> wrote:
Stephen,
The server is only for OpenMeetings, so no Apache running (or installed), and nothing else on that port.
I did find the difference, in my first server I was running openMeetings as the root user, but with subsequent servers I had been using nobody. Running OpenMeetings under nobody works well for port 5080, but not for port 80, and I cannot understand why that might be.
One thing I could try is to create a full account called “openmeetings” which has a home directory and then try running OpenMeetings under this account. Sometimes software requires an account with a home directory, not just a dummy account.
I believe the issue is related with OpenMeetings code somewhere, as the Red5 server is running and accepting connections (root), just when you try to run OpenMeetings itself, that fails.
If I get success at any time, I will post back, but first I wanted to learn if anyone was familiar with the issue, and it looks like everyone else has their OpenMeetings servers either using port 5080 or are successfully running under ‘nobody’.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
W: www.co2crc.com.au
Stephen Cottham
Group IT Manager (Associate)
Robert Bird Group
Level 5, 333 Ann St
Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)
Phone: +44207 592 8000 (UK)
Fax: +6173 319 2799
Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)
Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)
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From: Stephen Cottham [mailto:Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:34 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
You aren’t using Apache on the new Debian server are you?
If Apache is running on port 80 then they will conflict.
To aid in finding the problem, If you go here
/usr/lib/red5
Then chmod 755 red5-debug.sh
Then start it using the debug mode
./red5-debug.sh
This will tell you more about why its failing to start.
Cheers
Stephen Cottham
Group IT Manager (Associate)
Robert Bird Group
Level 5, 333 Ann St
Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)
Phone: +44207 592 8000 (UK)
Fax: +6173 319 2799
Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)
Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)
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From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 May 2012 1:24 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
Hi,
Has anyone had success/issues with using port 80 instead of port 5080.
I have a number of Debian OpenMeetings servers. The first that I built I have configured using port 80 instead of port 5080, and all works well.
Since that time I have built a few more Debian OpenMeetings servers and I cannot get any of them to work with port 80. I really do not think the issue is with OpenMeetings or its configuration, because I can copy the entire “red5” folder from the new servers to the first (working) server and it will work on port 80.
I am hoping that someone may have had similar issues and knows how to resolved it.
/usr/lib/red5/conf/red5.properties
# HTTP
http.host=0.0.0.0
http.port=80
https.port=8443
http.URIEncoding=UTF-8
/usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/config.xml
<red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
W: www.co2crc.com.au
From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
Sent: Monday, 7 May 2012 9:19 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
Thanks, Sebastian for your comments. It is good to know.
George Kirkham
From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 7 May 2012 5:23 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
Hi George,
What is it that I should add to all the other language files?
=> It makes it more easy to give a complete (but not fully translated) file to translators. Lots of people tend to just download the language-xml file and translate that. If those files are all incomplete or certain labels are missing that this is just too confusing.
The same English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
modify for the languages that they are proficient in?
=> Yes you can fill them up in English and hope that some translators will look into that file. Of course it might take months or even years until really all languages are filled up. You could also use translate.google.com and look for a translation.
Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to follow, if so, please let me know.
=> If you edit the XML files please don't add linebreaks (some editors do that automatically), if you want to include a "save" linebreak you would actually enter something like this:
<br/>
(this is XML encoded HTML linebreak "<br/>")
Sebastian
2012/5/6 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
Hi,
What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language files
?
I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common
(undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You can
fill up other language files the english one. However all language files
should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset."
What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same
English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is there a way to
ask others to check and update any languages that they are proficient
in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to
follow, if so, please let me know.
I noticed that the Japanese file has
<string id="262" name="salutation_miss">
<value>Ms.</value>
</string>
Thanks,
George Kirkham
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de>
http://www.webbase-design.de <http://www.webbase-design.de>
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RE: 80
Posted by Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>.
Hey George,
HTTPS is working fine apart from the screen record function, this is currently with the devs to isolate the problem so hopefully they will have a solution for that soon.
IMO if OM is to be used in Production and public facing it should be encrypted – especially if LDAP authentication is being used.
I can help you with the setup of this if you want, assuming you have some SSL certs for your domain?
Best Regards
From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 May 2012 11:54 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
Stephen,
I just did a test with nobody, and there are no entries in any of the logs. If you meant some other kind of logging, then I am not aware how to enable this.
I tried using a different (standard) User ID, but this did not allow OpenMeetings to run either.
Something to follow up on later.
Can you tell me how you manage to get port 443 working? I would like to try that instead of port 80. I had understood (hopefully mistakenly) that there were issues running OpenMeeting under port 443 ?
Thanks,
George Kirkham
From: Stephen Cottham [mailto:Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 9 May 2012 7:36 AM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
What did the debug trace show?
I've not tried port 80 tbh but I do run fine on https (443) with no issues.
Sent from my iPhone
On 8 May 2012, at 22:24, "George Kirkham" <gk...@co2crc.com.au> wrote:
Stephen,
The server is only for OpenMeetings, so no Apache running (or installed), and nothing else on that port.
I did find the difference, in my first server I was running openMeetings as the root user, but with subsequent servers I had been using nobody. Running OpenMeetings under nobody works well for port 5080, but not for port 80, and I cannot understand why that might be.
One thing I could try is to create a full account called “openmeetings” which has a home directory and then try running OpenMeetings under this account. Sometimes software requires an account with a home directory, not just a dummy account.
I believe the issue is related with OpenMeetings code somewhere, as the Red5 server is running and accepting connections (root), just when you try to run OpenMeetings itself, that fails.
If I get success at any time, I will post back, but first I wanted to learn if anyone was familiar with the issue, and it looks like everyone else has their OpenMeetings servers either using port 5080 or are successfully running under ‘nobody’.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
W: www.co2crc.com.au
Stephen Cottham
Group IT Manager (Associate)
Robert Bird Group
Level 5, 333 Ann St
Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)
Phone: +44207 592 8000 (UK)
Fax: +6173 319 2799
Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)
Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)
Web: www.robertbird.com <http://www.robertbird.com/>
<http://www.robertbird.com.au/>
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From: Stephen Cottham [mailto:Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:34 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
You aren’t using Apache on the new Debian server are you?
If Apache is running on port 80 then they will conflict.
To aid in finding the problem, If you go here
/usr/lib/red5
Then chmod 755 red5-debug.sh
Then start it using the debug mode
./red5-debug.sh
This will tell you more about why its failing to start.
Cheers
Stephen Cottham
Group IT Manager (Associate)
Robert Bird Group
Level 5, 333 Ann St
Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)
Phone: +44207 592 8000 (UK)
Fax: +6173 319 2799
Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)
Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)
Web: www.robertbird.com <http://www.robertbird.com/>
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From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 May 2012 1:24 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
Hi,
Has anyone had success/issues with using port 80 instead of port 5080.
I have a number of Debian OpenMeetings servers. The first that I built I have configured using port 80 instead of port 5080, and all works well.
Since that time I have built a few more Debian OpenMeetings servers and I cannot get any of them to work with port 80. I really do not think the issue is with OpenMeetings or its configuration, because I can copy the entire “red5” folder from the new servers to the first (working) server and it will work on port 80.
I am hoping that someone may have had similar issues and knows how to resolved it.
/usr/lib/red5/conf/red5.properties
# HTTP
http.host=0.0.0.0
http.port=80
https.port=8443
http.URIEncoding=UTF-8
/usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/config.xml
<red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
W: www.co2crc.com.au
From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
Sent: Monday, 7 May 2012 9:19 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
Thanks, Sebastian for your comments. It is good to know.
George Kirkham
From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 7 May 2012 5:23 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
Hi George,
What is it that I should add to all the other language files?
=> It makes it more easy to give a complete (but not fully translated) file to translators. Lots of people tend to just download the language-xml file and translate that. If those files are all incomplete or certain labels are missing that this is just too confusing.
The same English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
modify for the languages that they are proficient in?
=> Yes you can fill them up in English and hope that some translators will look into that file. Of course it might take months or even years until really all languages are filled up. You could also use translate.google.com and look for a translation.
Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to follow, if so, please let me know.
=> If you edit the XML files please don't add linebreaks (some editors do that automatically), if you want to include a "save" linebreak you would actually enter something like this:
<br/>
(this is XML encoded HTML linebreak "<br/>")
Sebastian
2012/5/6 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
Hi,
What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language files
?
I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common
(undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You can
fill up other language files the english one. However all language files
should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset."
What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same
English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is there a way to
ask others to check and update any languages that they are proficient
in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to
follow, if so, please let me know.
I noticed that the Japanese file has
<string id="262" name="salutation_miss">
<value>Ms.</value>
</string>
Thanks,
George Kirkham
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de>
http://www.webbase-design.de <http://www.webbase-design.de>
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com <http://www.wagner-sebastian.com>
seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
Stephen Cottham
Group IT Manager (Associate)
Robert Bird Group
Level 5, 333 Ann St
Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)
Phone: +44207 592 8000 (UK)
Fax: +6173 319 2799
Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)
Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)
Web: www.robertbird.com
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RE: 80
Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Stephen,
I just did a test with nobody, and there are no entries in any of the logs. If you meant some other kind of logging, then I am not aware how to enable this.
I tried using a different (standard) User ID, but this did not allow OpenMeetings to run either.
Something to follow up on later.
Can you tell me how you manage to get port 443 working? I would like to try that instead of port 80. I had understood (hopefully mistakenly) that there were issues running OpenMeeting under port 443 ?
Thanks,
George Kirkham
From: Stephen Cottham [mailto:Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 9 May 2012 7:36 AM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
What did the debug trace show?
I've not tried port 80 tbh but I do run fine on https (443) with no issues.
Sent from my iPhone
On 8 May 2012, at 22:24, "George Kirkham" <gk...@co2crc.com.au> wrote:
Stephen,
The server is only for OpenMeetings, so no Apache running (or installed), and nothing else on that port.
I did find the difference, in my first server I was running openMeetings as the root user, but with subsequent servers I had been using nobody. Running OpenMeetings under nobody works well for port 5080, but not for port 80, and I cannot understand why that might be.
One thing I could try is to create a full account called “openmeetings” which has a home directory and then try running OpenMeetings under this account. Sometimes software requires an account with a home directory, not just a dummy account.
I believe the issue is related with OpenMeetings code somewhere, as the Red5 server is running and accepting connections (root), just when you try to run OpenMeetings itself, that fails.
If I get success at any time, I will post back, but first I wanted to learn if anyone was familiar with the issue, and it looks like everyone else has their OpenMeetings servers either using port 5080 or are successfully running under ‘nobody’.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
W: www.co2crc.com.au
Stephen Cottham
Group IT Manager (Associate)
Robert Bird Group
Level 5, 333 Ann St
Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)
Phone: +44207 592 8000 (UK)
Fax: +6173 319 2799
Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)
Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)
Web: www.robertbird.com <http://www.robertbird.com/>
<http://www.robertbird.com.au/>
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From: Stephen Cottham [mailto:Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:34 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
You aren’t using Apache on the new Debian server are you?
If Apache is running on port 80 then they will conflict.
To aid in finding the problem, If you go here
/usr/lib/red5
Then chmod 755 red5-debug.sh
Then start it using the debug mode
./red5-debug.sh
This will tell you more about why its failing to start.
Cheers
Stephen Cottham
Group IT Manager (Associate)
Robert Bird Group
Level 5, 333 Ann St
Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)
Phone: +44207 592 8000 (UK)
Fax: +6173 319 2799
Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)
Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)
Web: www.robertbird.com <http://www.robertbird.com/>
<image001.gif> <http://www.robertbird.com.au/>
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From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 May 2012 1:24 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
Hi,
Has anyone had success/issues with using port 80 instead of port 5080.
I have a number of Debian OpenMeetings servers. The first that I built I have configured using port 80 instead of port 5080, and all works well.
Since that time I have built a few more Debian OpenMeetings servers and I cannot get any of them to work with port 80. I really do not think the issue is with OpenMeetings or its configuration, because I can copy the entire “red5” folder from the new servers to the first (working) server and it will work on port 80.
I am hoping that someone may have had similar issues and knows how to resolved it.
/usr/lib/red5/conf/red5.properties
# HTTP
http.host=0.0.0.0
http.port=80
https.port=8443
http.URIEncoding=UTF-8
/usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/config.xml
<red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
W: www.co2crc.com.au
From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
Sent: Monday, 7 May 2012 9:19 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
Thanks, Sebastian for your comments. It is good to know.
George Kirkham
From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 7 May 2012 5:23 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
Hi George,
What is it that I should add to all the other language files?
=> It makes it more easy to give a complete (but not fully translated) file to translators. Lots of people tend to just download the language-xml file and translate that. If those files are all incomplete or certain labels are missing that this is just too confusing.
The same English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
modify for the languages that they are proficient in?
=> Yes you can fill them up in English and hope that some translators will look into that file. Of course it might take months or even years until really all languages are filled up. You could also use translate.google.com and look for a translation.
Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to follow, if so, please let me know.
=> If you edit the XML files please don't add linebreaks (some editors do that automatically), if you want to include a "save" linebreak you would actually enter something like this:
<br/>
(this is XML encoded HTML linebreak "<br/>")
Sebastian
2012/5/6 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
Hi,
What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language files
?
I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common
(undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You can
fill up other language files the english one. However all language files
should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset."
What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same
English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is there a way to
ask others to check and update any languages that they are proficient
in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to
follow, if so, please let me know.
I noticed that the Japanese file has
<string id="262" name="salutation_miss">
<value>Ms.</value>
</string>
Thanks,
George Kirkham
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Re: 80
Posted by Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>.
What did the debug trace show?
I've not tried port 80 tbh but I do run fine on https (443) with no issues.
Sent from my iPhone
On 8 May 2012, at 22:24, "George Kirkham" <gk...@co2crc.com.au> wrote:
> Stephen,
>
> The server is only for OpenMeetings, so no Apache running (or installed), and nothing else on that port.
>
> I did find the difference, in my first server I was running openMeetings as the root user, but with subsequent servers I had been using nobody. Running OpenMeetings under nobody works well for port 5080, but not for port 80, and I cannot understand why that might be.
>
> One thing I could try is to create a full account called “openmeetings” which has a home directory and then try running OpenMeetings under this account. Sometimes software requires an account with a home directory, not just a dummy account.
>
> I believe the issue is related with OpenMeetings code somewhere, as the Red5 server is running and accepting connections (root), just when you try to run OpenMeetings itself, that fails.
>
> If I get success at any time, I will post back, but first I wanted to learn if anyone was familiar with the issue, and it looks like everyone else has their OpenMeetings servers either using port 5080 or are successfully running under ‘nobody’.
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
> IT Manager
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
> T: (02) 6120 1600
> F: (02) 6273 7181
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
> W: www.co2crc.com.au
>
>
> From: Stephen Cottham [mailto:Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au]
> Sent: Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:34 PM
> To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
> You aren’t using Apache on the new Debian server are you?
>
> If Apache is running on port 80 then they will conflict.
>
> To aid in finding the problem, If you go here
>
> /usr/lib/red5
>
> Then chmod 755 red5-debug.sh
>
> Then start it using the debug mode
>
> ./red5-debug.sh
>
> This will tell you more about why its failing to start.
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Stephen Cottham
> Group IT Manager (Associate)
>
> Robert Bird Group
> Level 5, 333 Ann St
> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
> Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)
> Phone: +44207 592 8000 (UK)
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> From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
> Sent: Tuesday, 8 May 2012 1:24 PM
> To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
> Hi,
>
> Has anyone had success/issues with using port 80 instead of port 5080.
>
> I have a number of Debian OpenMeetings servers. The first that I built I have configured using port 80 instead of port 5080, and all works well.
>
> Since that time I have built a few more Debian OpenMeetings servers and I cannot get any of them to work with port 80. I really do not think the issue is with OpenMeetings or its configuration, because I can copy the entire “red5” folder from the new servers to the first (working) server and it will work on port 80.
>
> I am hoping that someone may have had similar issues and knows how to resolved it.
>
> /usr/lib/red5/conf/red5.properties
>
> # HTTP
> http.host=0.0.0.0
> http.port=80
> https.port=8443
> http.URIEncoding=UTF-8
>
> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/config.xml
> <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
> IT Manager
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
> T: (02) 6120 1600
> F: (02) 6273 7181
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
> W: www.co2crc.com.au
>
>
> From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
> Sent: Monday, 7 May 2012 9:19 PM
> To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
>
> Thanks, Sebastian for your comments. It is good to know.
>
>
> George Kirkham
>
> From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, 7 May 2012 5:23 PM
> To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
>
> Hi George,
>
> What is it that I should add to all the other language files?
> => It makes it more easy to give a complete (but not fully translated) file to translators. Lots of people tend to just download the language-xml file and translate that. If those files are all incomplete or certain labels are missing that this is just too confusing.
>
> The same English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
> modify for the languages that they are proficient in?
> => Yes you can fill them up in English and hope that some translators will look into that file. Of course it might take months or even years until really all languages are filled up. You could also use translate.google.com and look for a translation.
>
> Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to follow, if so, please let me know.
> => If you edit the XML files please don't add linebreaks (some editors do that automatically), if you want to include a "save" linebreak you would actually enter something like this:
>
> <br/>
> (this is XML encoded HTML linebreak "<br/>")
>
>
> Sebastian
>
> 2012/5/6 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
> Hi,
>
> What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language files
> ?
>
> I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common
> (undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You can
> fill up other language files the english one. However all language files
> should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset."
>
> What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same
> English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
> modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is there a way to
> ask others to check and update any languages that they are proficient
> in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to
> follow, if so, please let me know.
>
> I noticed that the Japanese file has
> <string id="262" name="salutation_miss">
> <value>Ms.</value>
> </string>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> http://www.openmeetings.de
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> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wagner@gmail.com
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Robert Bird Group
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RE: Allowing Users to adjust the magnification of the Whiteboard
Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Hi,
And thinking about this further, there may be two ways to solve the issue of everyone seeing a zoomed in view of a word document;
1) By default Meeting Participants should be able to set zoom but not scroll.
2) When the Moderator can run off "Full-Fit" and then set a zoom, it does this to everyone's Whiteboard, just as when the Moderator scrolls it scrolls everyone's screen. And the Moderator to controls everyone's screens as they can now?
It has occurred to me that if meeting attendees are given access to the zoom by default, then they should not have access to the scroll bars. Only allow the Moderator to control the scrolling.
Because Meeting participants computer's can have different screen resolutions, there is no perfect solution, but I am now liking solution 2 over solution 1, but either would work. Please think about this and post back with comments.
I am currently in a meeting with 5 people sharing a Word document, and we all needed to zoom the document and the moderator moves us to the right page and scrolls to the right place in the page, but some meeting participants cannot stop themselves in altering the scroll.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2012 4:35 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: Allowing Users to adjust the magnification of the Whiteboard
Dušan, both of these features sound worthwhile.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
From: Dušan Stloukal [mailto:dusan.stloukal@devportal.eu]
Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2012 4:26 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Allowing Users to adjust the magnification of the Whiteboard
Hi,
I think, that individual changing of the zoom as the default, without permission, is the key feature which we are missing. It was the very first thing which we was asked by our customers to patch (but we don't have the patch so far).
The next (imo useful) feature, which I've seen at presentation of MS Lync, was the ability to each participiant scroll through his whiteboard and after clicking on the "sync" button, the whiteboard is scrolled to the presenter's place. But the "sync" button is available only when the participiant do his own scrolling. In other cases, his whiteboard is synced with the presenter immediately.
Thanks
Dusan
On 05/10/2012 04:42 AM, George Kirkham wrote:
Hi,
How much work is involved in allowing meeting participants access to adjust the magnification (zoom) of the Whiteboard without having to have the rights to draw on the Whiteboard ?
When working with portrait documents, like Word documents, it is important to zoom into the document and then scroll down the document while people in the meeting discuss the various paragraphs (as a Word page contains more text that can be displayed to the screen/whiteboard and still be readable in "Full-Fit").
I like it when we get all the meeting participants to zoom the document so that the document text is a good readable size, and then the presenter can scroll the document, and it scrolls on everyone's screens so they all follow where the discussion is up to.
But currently to do this we have to;
1) give them "Draw on the Whiteboard" rights, and
2) ask them to zoom their screens and
3) then remove "Draw on the Whiteboard" rights (so they don't accidently change pages, or draw on the screen when we don't want them to)
Could meeting participants either a) have access to the Full-Fit and zoom as standard, or b) can this be controlled separately by itself, and not bundled with Draw on the Whiteboard rights.
I would ask other people to comment whether this would be useful for them also ? or maybe there are good reasons not to change this functionality?
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2012 12:02 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: exclusive audio in Build #68
Hi, I am testing the functionality in build #68
These I believe are issues, please check and comment.
Test scenario, one moderator, two other participants (one with Audio & Video and one with Audio only) then join the meeting. A forth participant joins the meeting
1) When the moderator hovers over the red disable icon of the "Allow/Deny right to give exclusive audio" column for either of the two other participants, the text that hovers is "Allow user to give exclusive audio", but after they have been granted rights to give exclusive audio, if you hover over the green circled tick, then the text says "User is Moderator, he can do anything.", where as it would be more correct if the hover text said "Remove ability to give exclusive audio", like the "Remove ability to draw on the whiteboard". The "Allow/Deny right to Remote Control Screen" ticks also has the same issue (they display "User is Moderator, he can do anything."). In fact in this scenario the statement "User is Moderator, he can do anything." is incorrect as this user is not a moderator.
2) I would have expected that giving users the "Allow user to give exclusive audio" would allow users to control the who currently has exclusive audio (i.e. whose mic is not muted), but the users cannot control the use of "exclusive audio" (unless they are made moderators).
3) It seems the only way to give exclusive audio is by clicking the centre of that persons video window, but if a person is set to "Audio only", then they don't have a video window so there is no way to grant them "exclusive audio". Would it not be better to have a way to control exclusive audio from the "Users" list? Why not use the round green (user speaks) icon. (see point 5 where it was found that the fourth user to the meeting did get a third, video like window where they could control the "exclusive audio" for the person who was set to "audio only". But these windows did not appear for the moderator or the other two who were the first to join.
4) In the "Users" list there is a round green icon like the green icon that appears in the Video window, but unlike the video window, it does not change to solid green when the user is speaking, I believe it is supposed to? If it is not, then what does it do? The hover text says "User speaks".
5) when a fourth user joined the meeting (with no audio/video), they had two video windows (moderator and the one user who was sending video) and one other window like a video window but without any picture as the name label of that window indicated that it was the other user who was sending audio only. This fourth user, when made a moderator could control who had "exclusive audio", but only when a moderator. The other three users still had no way to give the "audio only" user, "exclusive audio".
6) I did a few audio tests to see how much echo was an issue, and I am amazed, I had no echo. I will try to test this again, another day. Thanks to those who have been working on OpenMeetings.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
RE: Allowing Users to adjust the magnification of the Whiteboard
Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Dušan, both of these features sound worthwhile.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
From: Dušan Stloukal [mailto:dusan.stloukal@devportal.eu]
Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2012 4:26 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Allowing Users to adjust the magnification of the Whiteboard
Hi,
I think, that individual changing of the zoom as the default, without permission, is the key feature which we are missing. It was the very first thing which we was asked by our customers to patch (but we don't have the patch so far).
The next (imo useful) feature, which I've seen at presentation of MS Lync, was the ability to each participiant scroll through his whiteboard and after clicking on the "sync" button, the whiteboard is scrolled to the presenter's place. But the "sync" button is available only when the participiant do his own scrolling. In other cases, his whiteboard is synced with the presenter immediately.
Thanks
Dusan
On 05/10/2012 04:42 AM, George Kirkham wrote:
Hi,
How much work is involved in allowing meeting participants access to adjust the magnification (zoom) of the Whiteboard without having to have the rights to draw on the Whiteboard ?
When working with portrait documents, like Word documents, it is important to zoom into the document and then scroll down the document while people in the meeting discuss the various paragraphs (as a Word page contains more text that can be displayed to the screen/whiteboard and still be readable in "Full-Fit").
I like it when we get all the meeting participants to zoom the document so that the document text is a good readable size, and then the presenter can scroll the document, and it scrolls on everyone's screens so they all follow where the discussion is up to.
But currently to do this we have to;
1) give them "Draw on the Whiteboard" rights, and
2) ask them to zoom their screens and
3) then remove "Draw on the Whiteboard" rights (so they don't accidently change pages, or draw on the screen when we don't want them to)
Could meeting participants either a) have access to the Full-Fit and zoom as standard, or b) can this be controlled separately by itself, and not bundled with Draw on the Whiteboard rights.
I would ask other people to comment whether this would be useful for them also ? or maybe there are good reasons not to change this functionality?
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2012 12:02 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: exclusive audio in Build #68
Hi, I am testing the functionality in build #68
These I believe are issues, please check and comment.
Test scenario, one moderator, two other participants (one with Audio & Video and one with Audio only) then join the meeting. A forth participant joins the meeting
1) When the moderator hovers over the red disable icon of the "Allow/Deny right to give exclusive audio" column for either of the two other participants, the text that hovers is "Allow user to give exclusive audio", but after they have been granted rights to give exclusive audio, if you hover over the green circled tick, then the text says "User is Moderator, he can do anything.", where as it would be more correct if the hover text said "Remove ability to give exclusive audio", like the "Remove ability to draw on the whiteboard". The "Allow/Deny right to Remote Control Screen" ticks also has the same issue (they display "User is Moderator, he can do anything."). In fact in this scenario the statement "User is Moderator, he can do anything." is incorrect as this user is not a moderator.
2) I would have expected that giving users the "Allow user to give exclusive audio" would allow users to control the who currently has exclusive audio (i.e. whose mic is not muted), but the users cannot control the use of "exclusive audio" (unless they are made moderators).
3) It seems the only way to give exclusive audio is by clicking the centre of that persons video window, but if a person is set to "Audio only", then they don't have a video window so there is no way to grant them "exclusive audio". Would it not be better to have a way to control exclusive audio from the "Users" list? Why not use the round green (user speaks) icon. (see point 5 where it was found that the fourth user to the meeting did get a third, video like window where they could control the "exclusive audio" for the person who was set to "audio only". But these windows did not appear for the moderator or the other two who were the first to join.
4) In the "Users" list there is a round green icon like the green icon that appears in the Video window, but unlike the video window, it does not change to solid green when the user is speaking, I believe it is supposed to? If it is not, then what does it do? The hover text says "User speaks".
5) when a fourth user joined the meeting (with no audio/video), they had two video windows (moderator and the one user who was sending video) and one other window like a video window but without any picture as the name label of that window indicated that it was the other user who was sending audio only. This fourth user, when made a moderator could control who had "exclusive audio", but only when a moderator. The other three users still had no way to give the "audio only" user, "exclusive audio".
6) I did a few audio tests to see how much echo was an issue, and I am amazed, I had no echo. I will try to test this again, another day. Thanks to those who have been working on OpenMeetings.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Re: Allowing Users to adjust the magnification of the Whiteboard
Posted by Dušan Stloukal <du...@devportal.eu>.
Hi,
I think, that individual changing of the zoom as the default, without
permission, is the key feature which we are missing. It was the very
first thing which we was asked by our customers to patch (but we don't
have the patch so far).
The next (imo useful) feature, which I've seen at presentation of MS
Lync, was the ability to each participiant scroll through his whiteboard
and after clicking on the "sync" button, the whiteboard is scrolled to
the presenter's place. But the "sync" button is available only when the
participiant do his own scrolling. In other cases, his whiteboard is
synced with the presenter immediately.
Thanks
Dusan
On 05/10/2012 04:42 AM, George Kirkham wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> How much work is involved in allowing meeting participants access to
> adjust the magnification (zoom) of the Whiteboard without having to
> have the rights to draw on the Whiteboard ?
>
> When working with portrait documents, like Word documents, it is
> important to zoom into the document and then scroll down the document
> while people in the meeting discuss the various paragraphs (as a Word
> page contains more text that can be displayed to the screen/whiteboard
> and still be readable in “Full-Fit”).
>
> I like it when we get all the meeting participants to zoom the
> document so that the document text is a good readable size, and then
> the presenter can scroll the document, and it scrolls on everyone’s
> screens so they all follow where the discussion is up to.
>
> But currently to do this we have to;
>
> 1) give them “Draw on the Whiteboard” rights, and
>
> 2)ask them to zoom their screens and
>
> 3)then remove “Draw on the Whiteboard” rights (so they don’t
> accidently change pages, or draw on the screen when we don’t want them to)
>
> Could meeting participants either a) have access to the Full-Fit and
> zoom as standard, or b) can this be controlled separately by itself,
> and not bundled with Draw on the Whiteboard rights.
>
> I would ask other people to comment whether this would be useful for
> them also ? or maybe there are good reasons not to change this
> functionality?
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
> IT Manager
>
> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
> *Sent:* Thursday, 10 May 2012 12:02 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* exclusive audio in Build #68
>
> Hi, I am testing the functionality in build #68
>
> These I believe are issues, please check and comment.
>
> Test scenario, one moderator, two other participants (one with Audio &
> Video and one with Audio only) then join the meeting. A forth
> participant joins the meeting
>
> 1)When the moderator hovers over the red disable icon of the
> “Allow/Deny right to give exclusive audio” column for either of the
> two other participants, the text that hovers is “Allow user to give
> exclusive audio”, but after they have been granted rights to give
> exclusive audio, if you hover over the green circled tick, then the
> text says “User is Moderator, he can do anything.”, where as it would
> be more correct if the hover text said “Remove ability to give
> exclusive audio”, like the “Remove ability to draw on the
> whiteboard”. The “Allow/Deny right to Remote Control Screen” ticks
> also has the same issue (they display “User is Moderator, he can do
> anything.”). In fact in this scenario the statement “User is
> Moderator, he can do anything.” is incorrect as this user is not a
> moderator.
>
> 2)I would have expected that giving users the “Allow user to give
> exclusive audio” would allow users to control the who currently has
> exclusive audio (i.e. whose mic is not muted), but the users cannot
> control the use of “exclusive audio” (unless they are made moderators).
>
> 3)It seems the only way to give exclusive audio is by clicking the
> centre of that persons video window, but if a person is set to “Audio
> only”, then they don’t have a video window so there is no way to grant
> them “exclusive audio”. Would it not be better to have a way to
> control exclusive audio from the “Users” list? Why not use the round
> green (user speaks) icon. (see point 5 where it was found that the
> fourth user to the meeting did get a third, video like window where
> they could control the “exclusive audio” for the person who was set to
> “audio only”. But these windows did not appear for the moderator or
> the other two who were the first to join.
>
> 4)In the “Users” list there is a round green icon like the green icon
> that appears in the Video window, but unlike the video window, it does
> not change to solid green when the user is speaking, I believe it is
> supposed to? If it is not, then what does it do? The hover text says
> “User speaks”.
>
> 5)when a fourth user joined the meeting (with no audio/video), they
> had two video windows (moderator and the one user who was sending
> video) and one other window like a video window but without any
> picture as the name label of that window indicated that it was the
> other user who was sending audio only. This fourth user, when made a
> moderator could control who had “exclusive audio”, but only when a
> moderator. The other three users still had no way to give the “audio
> only” user, “exclusive audio”.
>
> 6)I did a few audio tests to see how much echo was an issue, and I am
> amazed, I had no echo. I will try to test this again, another day.
> Thanks to those who have been working on OpenMeetings.
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
> IT Manager
>
Allowing Users to adjust the magnification of the Whiteboard
Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Hi,
How much work is involved in allowing meeting participants access to
adjust the magnification (zoom) of the Whiteboard without having to have
the rights to draw on the Whiteboard ?
When working with portrait documents, like Word documents, it is
important to zoom into the document and then scroll down the document
while people in the meeting discuss the various paragraphs (as a Word
page contains more text that can be displayed to the screen/whiteboard
and still be readable in "Full-Fit").
I like it when we get all the meeting participants to zoom the document
so that the document text is a good readable size, and then the
presenter can scroll the document, and it scrolls on everyone's screens
so they all follow where the discussion is up to.
But currently to do this we have to;
1) give them "Draw on the Whiteboard" rights, and
2) ask them to zoom their screens and
3) then remove "Draw on the Whiteboard" rights (so they don't
accidently change pages, or draw on the screen when we don't want them
to)
Could meeting participants either a) have access to the Full-Fit and
zoom as standard, or b) can this be controlled separately by itself, and
not bundled with Draw on the Whiteboard rights.
I would ask other people to comment whether this would be useful for
them also ? or maybe there are good reasons not to change this
functionality?
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2012 12:02 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: exclusive audio in Build #68
Hi, I am testing the functionality in build #68
These I believe are issues, please check and comment.
Test scenario, one moderator, two other participants (one with Audio &
Video and one with Audio only) then join the meeting. A forth
participant joins the meeting
1) When the moderator hovers over the red disable icon of the
"Allow/Deny right to give exclusive audio" column for either of the two
other participants, the text that hovers is "Allow user to give
exclusive audio", but after they have been granted rights to give
exclusive audio, if you hover over the green circled tick, then the text
says "User is Moderator, he can do anything.", where as it would be more
correct if the hover text said "Remove ability to give exclusive audio",
like the "Remove ability to draw on the whiteboard". The "Allow/Deny
right to Remote Control Screen" ticks also has the same issue (they
display "User is Moderator, he can do anything."). In fact in this
scenario the statement "User is Moderator, he can do anything." is
incorrect as this user is not a moderator.
2) I would have expected that giving users the "Allow user to give
exclusive audio" would allow users to control the who currently has
exclusive audio (i.e. whose mic is not muted), but the users cannot
control the use of "exclusive audio" (unless they are made moderators).
3) It seems the only way to give exclusive audio is by clicking the
centre of that persons video window, but if a person is set to "Audio
only", then they don't have a video window so there is no way to grant
them "exclusive audio". Would it not be better to have a way to control
exclusive audio from the "Users" list? Why not use the round green
(user speaks) icon. (see point 5 where it was found that the fourth
user to the meeting did get a third, video like window where they could
control the "exclusive audio" for the person who was set to "audio
only". But these windows did not appear for the moderator or the other
two who were the first to join.
4) In the "Users" list there is a round green icon like the green
icon that appears in the Video window, but unlike the video window, it
does not change to solid green when the user is speaking, I believe it
is supposed to? If it is not, then what does it do? The hover text
says "User speaks".
5) when a fourth user joined the meeting (with no audio/video),
they had two video windows (moderator and the one user who was sending
video) and one other window like a video window but without any picture
as the name label of that window indicated that it was the other user
who was sending audio only. This fourth user, when made a moderator
could control who had "exclusive audio", but only when a moderator. The
other three users still had no way to give the "audio only" user,
"exclusive audio".
6) I did a few audio tests to see how much echo was an issue, and I
am amazed, I had no echo. I will try to test this again, another day.
Thanks to those who have been working on OpenMeetings.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Re: exclusive audio in Build #68
Posted by Sergey Kobzar <se...@itcraft.org>.
Thanks, Alexey
I recently started with OM and glad to see it can replace existing
proprietary high-cost solutions from Polycom, Cisco and others. Hope my
new projects with OM will continue and I will able to help you guys too.
I'm not Java developer, but I work with Linux/BSD/Cisco >10 years and
hope to be useful for you if I can.
Thank you guys for OM and your hard work!
On 05/10/12 18:59, Alexei Fedotov wrote:
> I'm really happy seeing new faces (George, Sergey, Stephen) around
> with thoughtful and skillful posts - Openmeetings needs you, guys, for a
> strong community. The strong community is mandatory for us to leave
> incubation and become an full-scale Apache project.
>
> Thank you.
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:01 AM, George Kirkham <gkirkham@co2crc.com.au
> <ma...@co2crc.com.au>> wrote:
>
> Hi, I am testing the functionality in build #68____
>
> __ __
>
> These I believe are issues, please check and comment.____
>
> __ __
>
> Test scenario, one moderator, two other participants (one with Audio
> & Video and one with Audio only) then join the meeting. A forth
> participant joins the meeting ____
>
> __ __
>
> __1)__When the moderator hovers over the red disable icon of the
> “Allow/Deny right to give exclusive audio” column for either of the
> two other participants, the text that hovers is “Allow user to give
> exclusive audio”, but after they have been granted rights to give
> exclusive audio, if you hover over the green circled tick, then the
> text says “User is Moderator, he can do anything.”, where as it
> would be more correct if the hover text said “Remove ability to give
> exclusive audio”, like the “Remove ability to draw on the
> whiteboard”. The “Allow/Deny right to Remote Control Screen” ticks
> also has the same issue (they display “User is Moderator, he can do
> anything.”). In fact in this scenario the statement “User is
> Moderator, he can do anything.” is incorrect as this user is not a
> moderator.
>
> ____
>
> __2)__I would have expected that giving users the “Allow user to
> give exclusive audio” would allow users to control the who currently
> has exclusive audio (i.e. whose mic is not muted), but the users
> cannot control the use of “exclusive audio” (unless they are made
> moderators).
>
> ____
>
> __3)__It seems the only way to give exclusive audio is by clicking
> the centre of that persons video window, but if a person is set to
> “Audio only”, then they don’t have a video window so there is no way
> to grant them “exclusive audio”. Would it not be better to have a
> way to control exclusive audio from the “Users” list? Why not use
> the round green (user speaks) icon. (see point 5 where it was found
> that the fourth user to the meeting did get a third, video like
> window where they could control the “exclusive audio” for the person
> who was set to “audio only”. But these windows did not appear for
> the moderator or the other two who were the first to join.
>
> ____
>
> __4)__In the “Users” list there is a round green icon like the green
> icon that appears in the Video window, but unlike the video window,
> it does not change to solid green when the user is speaking, I
> believe it is supposed to? If it is not, then what does it do? The
> hover text says “User speaks”.
>
> ____
>
> __5)__when a fourth user joined the meeting (with no audio/video),
> they had two video windows (moderator and the one user who was
> sending video) and one other window like a video window but without
> any picture as the name label of that window indicated that it was
> the other user who was sending audio only. This fourth user, when
> made a moderator could control who had “exclusive audio”, but only
> when a moderator. The other three users still had no way to give the
> “audio only” user, “exclusive audio”.
>
> ____
>
> __6)__I did a few audio tests to see how much echo was an issue, and
> I am amazed, I had no echo. I will try to test this again, another
> day. Thanks to those who have been working on OpenMeetings.____
>
> __ __
>
> __ __
>
> Thanks,____
>
> __ __
>
> George Kirkham____
>
> __ __
>
> IT Manager____
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
> ____
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia____
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600____
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181____
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>, ____
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>____
>
> __ __
>
> __ __
>
> *From:*brian mullan [mailto:bmullan.mail@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>]
> *Sent:* Thursday, 10 May 2012 8:53 AM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject:* Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>____
>
> __ __
>
> Sergey
>
> I think you meant to say if you run service on port *=< 1024* you
> need root privilages
>
> ____
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Sergey Kobzar
> <sergey.kobzar@itcraft.org <ma...@itcraft.org>>
> wrote:____
>
> On Linux to run service on port >1024 you need root privileges.
> Non-root users can run services on ports >1024.
>
> http://www.staldal.nu/tech/2007/10/31/why-can-only-root-listen-to-ports-below-1024/
> for example...
>
> On 05/09/12 02:25, George Kirkham wrote:____
>
> Mahmut,
>
> Thanks for your comments, the configuration that I am using is below,
> are these settings the same or similar to how you run OpenMeetings or
> port 80 ? If you don’t mind sharing, what is your server’s OS?, and what
> would be your configuration settings that gets OpenMeetings to run on
> port 80 instead of port 5080 ? Maybe there are other areas that I need
> to modify other that the two that I am currently changing.
>
> /etc/init.d/red5
>
> start-stop-daemon --start -c nobody --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir
> $RED5_HOME --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null
> 2>/dev/null &
>
> /usr/lib/red5/conf/red5.properties
>
> # HTTP
>
> http.host=0.0.0.0
>
> http.port=80
>
> https.port=8443
>
> http.URIEncoding=UTF-8
>
> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/config.xml
>
> <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
> I run OpenMeetings using http://mydomain.com.au/ and it will redirect to
> http://mydomain.com.au/openmeetings but then there is no response from
> the server.
>
> I am getting no error information from the log files.
>
> When I do netstat -anp | grep java
>
> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 <http://127.0.0.1:8100> 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
> 4044/soffice.bin
>
> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 22175 4044/soffice.bin
> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 4051/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 4051/java
>
> However when I run as root user, then all works, see below for “netstat
> -anp | grep java”
>
> /etc/init.d/red5
>
> start-stop-daemon --start -c root --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir $RED5_HOME
> --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null 2>/dev/null &
>
> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 <http://127.0.0.1:8100> 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
> 3880/soffice.bin
>
> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 21314 3880/soffice.bin
> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::8080 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57440 <http://192.168.1.123:57440>
> 192.168.1.123:3306 <http://192.168.1.123:3306> ESTABLISHED 3887/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57443 <http://192.168.1.123:57443>
> 192.168.1.123:3306 <http://192.168.1.123:3306> ESTABLISHED 3887/java
>
> unix 2 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 21818 3887/java
>
> If I
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
> IT Manager
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>
> <mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>>,
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
> <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>
> *From:*Mahmut TEKER [mailto:teker.mahmut@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 9 May 2012 8:49 AM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject:* Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
> Hi George,
>
> I am using OM on port 80 and there is no problem. In fact I could not
> understand your problem clearly. Can you post error messages or warnings
> in the logs. That would make the issue clearer, I think.
>
> Moreover, there is an issue that, as I remember right, running
> red5/openmeetings on a port below or equal 1200 requires to be root.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> _Mahmut TEKER
>
> On 5/9/2012 12:23 AM, George Kirkham wrote:
>
> Stephen,
>
> The server is only for OpenMeetings, so no Apache running (or
> installed), and nothing else on that port.
>
> I did find the difference, in my first server I was running openMeetings
> as the root user, but with subsequent servers I had been using nobody.
> Running OpenMeetings under nobody works well for port 5080, but not for
> port 80, and I cannot understand why that might be.
>
> One thing I could try is to create a full account called “openmeetings”
> which has a home directory and then try running OpenMeetings under this
> account. Sometimes software requires an account with a home directory,
> not just a dummy account.
>
> I believe the issue is related with OpenMeetings code somewhere, as the
> Red5 server is running and accepting connections (root), just when you
> try to run OpenMeetings itself, that fails.
>
> If I get success at any time, I will post back, but first I wanted to
> learn if anyone was familiar with the issue, and it looks like everyone
> else has their OpenMeetings servers either using port 5080 or are
> successfully running under ‘nobody’.
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
> IT Manager
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>
> <mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>>,
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
> <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>
> *From:*Stephen Cottham [mailto:Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au
> <ma...@robertbird.com.au>]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:34 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> <mailto:openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>>
> *Subject:* RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
> You aren’t using Apache on the new Debian server are you?
>
> If Apache is running on port 80 then they will conflict.
>
> To aid in finding the problem, If you go here
>
> /usr/lib/red5
>
> Then chmod 755 red5-debug.sh
>
> Then start it using the debug mode
>
> ./red5-debug.sh
>
> This will tell you more about why its failing to start.
>
> Cheers
>
> *Stephen Cottham**
> *Group IT Manager (Associate)
>
> Robert Bird Group
> Level 5, 333 Ann St
> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
>
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> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au
> <ma...@co2crc.com.au>]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 1:24 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> <mailto:openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>>
> *Subject:* <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
> Hi,
>
> Has anyone had success/issues with using port 80 instead of port 5080.
>
> I have a number of Debian OpenMeetings servers. The first that I built I
> have configured using port 80 instead of port 5080, and all works well.
>
> Since that time I have built a few more Debian OpenMeetings servers and
> I cannot get any of them to work with port 80. I really do not think the
> issue is with OpenMeetings or its configuration, because I can copy the
> entire “red5” folder from the new servers to the first (working) server
> and it will work on port 80.
>
> I am hoping that someone may have had similar issues and knows how to
> resolved it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
> IT Manager
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>
> <mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>>,
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
> <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>
> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au
> <ma...@co2crc.com.au>]
> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 9:19 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> <mailto:openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>>
> *Subject:* RE: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
>
> Thanks, Sebastian for your comments. It is good to know.
>
> George Kirkham
>
> *From:*seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
> <mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>
> [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>]
> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 5:23 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> <mailto:openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>>
> *Subject:* Re: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
>
> Hi George,
>
> What is it that I should add to all the other language files?
> => It makes it more easy to give a complete (but not fully translated)
> file to translators. Lots of people tend to just download the
> language-xml file and translate that. If those files are all incomplete
> or certain labels are missing that this is just too confusing.
>
> The same English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other
> languages
> modify for the languages that they are proficient in?
> => Yes you can fill them up in English and hope that some translators
> will look into that file. Of course it might take months or even years
> until really all languages are filled up. You could also use
> translate.google.com <http://translate.google.com>
> <http://translate.google.com> and look for a
> translation.
>
> Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to follow,
> if so, please let me know.
> => If you edit the XML files please don't add linebreaks (some editors
> do that automatically), if you want to include a "save" linebreak you
> would actually enter something like this:
>
> <br/>
>
> (this is XML encoded HTML linebreak "<br/>")
>
>
> Sebastian
>
> 2012/5/6 George Kirkham <gkirkham@co2crc.com.au
> <ma...@co2crc.com.au>
> <mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>>>
>
> Hi,
>
> What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language files
> ?
>
> I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common
> (undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You can
> fill up other language files the english one. However all language files
> should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset."
>
> What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same
> English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
> modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is there a way to
> ask others to check and update any languages that they are proficient
> in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to
> follow, if so, please let me know.
>
> I noticed that the Japanese file has
> <string id="262" name="salutation_miss">
> <value>Ms.</value>
> </string>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
> <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
> http://www.openmeetings.de
> http://www.webbase-design.de
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> seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
> <mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>____
>
> __ __
>
>
Re: exclusive audio in Build #68
Posted by Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>.
Glad to help out where I can guys, it's important to give back to the open source community to benefit everyone, hats off to the devs on this project.
Sent from my iPhone
On 10 May 2012, at 17:02, "Alexei Fedotov" <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm really happy seeing new faces (George, Sergey, Stephen) around with thoughtful and skillful posts - Openmeetings needs you, guys, for a strong community. The strong community is mandatory for us to leave incubation and become an full-scale Apache project.
>
> Thank you.
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:01 AM, George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au> wrote:
> Hi, I am testing the functionality in build #68
>
>
>
> These I believe are issues, please check and comment.
>
>
>
> Test scenario, one moderator, two other participants (one with Audio & Video and one with Audio only) then join the meeting. A forth participant joins the meeting
>
>
>
> 1) When the moderator hovers over the red disable icon of the “Allow/Deny right to give exclusive audio” column for either of the two other participants, the text that hovers is “Allow user to give exclusive audio”, but after they have been granted rights to give exclusive audio, if you hover over the green circled tick, then the text says “User is Moderator, he can do anything.”, where as it would be more correct if the hover text said “Remove ability to give exclusive audio”, like the “Remove ability to draw on the whiteboard”. The “Allow/Deny right to Remote Control Screen” ticks also has the same issue (they display “User is Moderator, he can do anything.”). In fact in this scenario the statement “User is Moderator, he can do anything.” is incorrect as this user is not a moderator.
>
>
> 2) I would have expected that giving users the “Allow user to give exclusive audio” would allow users to control the who currently has exclusive audio (i.e. whose mic is not muted), but the users cannot control the use of “exclusive audio” (unless they are made moderators).
>
>
> 3) It seems the only way to give exclusive audio is by clicking the centre of that persons video window, but if a person is set to “Audio only”, then they don’t have a video window so there is no way to grant them “exclusive audio”. Would it not be better to have a way to control exclusive audio from the “Users” list? Why not use the round green (user speaks) icon. (see point 5 where it was found that the fourth user to the meeting did get a third, video like window where they could control the “exclusive audio” for the person who was set to “audio only”. But these windows did not appear for the moderator or the other two who were the first to join.
>
>
> 4) In the “Users” list there is a round green icon like the green icon that appears in the Video window, but unlike the video window, it does not change to solid green when the user is speaking, I believe it is supposed to? If it is not, then what does it do? The hover text says “User speaks”.
>
>
> 5) when a fourth user joined the meeting (with no audio/video), they had two video windows (moderator and the one user who was sending video) and one other window like a video window but without any picture as the name label of that window indicated that it was the other user who was sending audio only. This fourth user, when made a moderator could control who had “exclusive audio”, but only when a moderator. The other three users still had no way to give the “audio only” user, “exclusive audio”.
>
>
> 6) I did a few audio tests to see how much echo was an issue, and I am amazed, I had no echo. I will try to test this again, another day. Thanks to those who have been working on OpenMeetings.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> George Kirkham
>
>
>
> IT Manager
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au
>
>
>
>
>
> From: brian mullan [mailto:bmullan.mail@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2012 8:53 AM
> To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
>
>
> Sergey
>
> I think you meant to say if you run service on port =< 1024 you need root privilages
>
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Sergey Kobzar <se...@itcraft.org> wrote:
>
> On Linux to run service on port >1024 you need root privileges. Non-root users can run services on ports >1024.
>
> http://www.staldal.nu/tech/2007/10/31/why-can-only-root-listen-to-ports-below-1024/ for example...
>
> On 05/09/12 02:25, George Kirkham wrote:
>
> Mahmut,
>
> Thanks for your comments, the configuration that I am using is below,
> are these settings the same or similar to how you run OpenMeetings or
> port 80 ? If you don’t mind sharing, what is your server’s OS?, and what
> would be your configuration settings that gets OpenMeetings to run on
> port 80 instead of port 5080 ? Maybe there are other areas that I need
> to modify other that the two that I am currently changing.
>
> /etc/init.d/red5
>
> start-stop-daemon --start -c nobody --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir
> $RED5_HOME --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null
> 2>/dev/null &
>
> /usr/lib/red5/conf/red5.properties
>
> # HTTP
>
> http.host=0.0.0.0
>
> http.port=80
>
> https.port=8443
>
> http.URIEncoding=UTF-8
>
> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/config.xml
>
> <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
> I run OpenMeetings using http://mydomain.com.au/ and it will redirect to
> http://mydomain.com.au/openmeetings but then there is no response from
> the server.
>
> I am getting no error information from the log files.
>
> When I do netstat -anp | grep java
>
> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 4044/soffice.bin
>
> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 22175 4044/soffice.bin
> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 4051/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 4051/java
>
> However when I run as root user, then all works, see below for “netstat
> -anp | grep java”
>
> /etc/init.d/red5
>
> start-stop-daemon --start -c root --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir $RED5_HOME
> --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null 2>/dev/null &
>
> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3880/soffice.bin
>
> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 21314 3880/soffice.bin
> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::8080 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57440 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57443 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java
>
> unix 2 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 21818 3887/java
>
> If I
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
> IT Manager
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>
> *From:*Mahmut TEKER [mailto:teker.mahmut@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 9 May 2012 8:49 AM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
> Hi George,
>
> I am using OM on port 80 and there is no problem. In fact I could not
> understand your problem clearly. Can you post error messages or warnings
> in the logs. That would make the issue clearer, I think.
>
> Moreover, there is an issue that, as I remember right, running
> red5/openmeetings on a port below or equal 1200 requires to be root.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> _Mahmut TEKER
>
> On 5/9/2012 12:23 AM, George Kirkham wrote:
>
> Stephen,
>
> The server is only for OpenMeetings, so no Apache running (or
> installed), and nothing else on that port.
>
> I did find the difference, in my first server I was running openMeetings
> as the root user, but with subsequent servers I had been using nobody.
> Running OpenMeetings under nobody works well for port 5080, but not for
> port 80, and I cannot understand why that might be.
>
> One thing I could try is to create a full account called “openmeetings”
> which has a home directory and then try running OpenMeetings under this
> account. Sometimes software requires an account with a home directory,
> not just a dummy account.
>
> I believe the issue is related with OpenMeetings code somewhere, as the
> Red5 server is running and accepting connections (root), just when you
> try to run OpenMeetings itself, that fails.
>
> If I get success at any time, I will post back, but first I wanted to
> learn if anyone was familiar with the issue, and it looks like everyone
> else has their OpenMeetings servers either using port 5080 or are
> successfully running under ‘nobody’.
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
> IT Manager
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>
> *From:*Stephen Cottham [mailto:Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:34 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject:* RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
> You aren’t using Apache on the new Debian server are you?
>
> If Apache is running on port 80 then they will conflict.
>
> To aid in finding the problem, If you go here
>
> /usr/lib/red5
>
> Then chmod 755 red5-debug.sh
>
> Then start it using the debug mode
>
> ./red5-debug.sh
>
> This will tell you more about why its failing to start.
>
> Cheers
>
> *Stephen Cottham**
> *Group IT Manager (Associate)
>
> Robert Bird Group
> Level 5, 333 Ann St
> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
>
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> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 1:24 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject:* <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
> Hi,
>
> Has anyone had success/issues with using port 80 instead of port 5080.
>
> I have a number of Debian OpenMeetings servers. The first that I built I
> have configured using port 80 instead of port 5080, and all works well.
>
> Since that time I have built a few more Debian OpenMeetings servers and
> I cannot get any of them to work with port 80. I really do not think the
> issue is with OpenMeetings or its configuration, because I can copy the
> entire “red5” folder from the new servers to the first (working) server
> and it will work on port 80.
>
> I am hoping that someone may have had similar issues and knows how to
> resolved it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
> IT Manager
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>
> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 9:19 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject:* RE: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
>
> Thanks, Sebastian for your comments. It is good to know.
>
> George Kirkham
>
> *From:*seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
> [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 5:23 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject:* Re: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
>
> Hi George,
>
> What is it that I should add to all the other language files?
> => It makes it more easy to give a complete (but not fully translated)
> file to translators. Lots of people tend to just download the
> language-xml file and translate that. If those files are all incomplete
> or certain labels are missing that this is just too confusing.
>
> The same English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other
> languages
> modify for the languages that they are proficient in?
> => Yes you can fill them up in English and hope that some translators
> will look into that file. Of course it might take months or even years
> until really all languages are filled up. You could also use
> translate.google.com <http://translate.google.com> and look for a
> translation.
>
> Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to follow,
> if so, please let me know.
> => If you edit the XML files please don't add linebreaks (some editors
> do that automatically), if you want to include a "save" linebreak you
> would actually enter something like this:
>
> <br/>
>
> (this is XML encoded HTML linebreak "<br/>")
>
>
> Sebastian
>
> 2012/5/6 George Kirkham <gkirkham@co2crc.com.au
> <ma...@co2crc.com.au>>
>
> Hi,
>
> What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language files
> ?
>
> I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common
> (undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You can
> fill up other language files the english one. However all language files
> should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset."
>
> What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same
> English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
> modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is there a way to
> ask others to check and update any languages that they are proficient
> in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to
> follow, if so, please let me know.
>
> I noticed that the Japanese file has
> <string id="262" name="salutation_miss">
> <value>Ms.</value>
> </string>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
>
>
>
> --
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> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
> http://www.openmeetings.de
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> seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
>
>
>
>
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To remove single objects you can use the blank arrow select single objects
Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Sebastian,
You said "To remove single objects you can use the blank arrow select
single objects", and my testing shows that this works perfectly.
One day I was demonstrating OpenMeetings and was not able to remove one
of the objects that I had put on the screen using this method.
What happened was that when I went to select the "arrow object" that I
wanted to remove, I had missed and selected the SlideShow itself. Once
the SlideShow was selected, I was not able to select another object
until I had deselected the SlideShow (not realising this, I had thought
that the "Select Object" feature was not working, but it was just my
mistake because I had not realised the SlideShow was an object itself.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
W: www.co2crc.com.au
From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, 11 May 2012 5:03 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Annoying bug with undoing Whiteboard objects
Hi George,
To remove single objects you can use the blank arrow select single
objects and then either use the delete key or click on the red square in
the virtual selection box.
For the undo I guess you're right, there seems to be an issue.
Thanks for checking a stable scenario, I will try to reproduce it and
fix the problem.
Sebastian
2012/5/11 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
Hi,
Please let me know if you can simulate this bug (I believe it has been
around since version 1.9)
Possible Fix: Instead of using a stack approach to undoing objects, why
not have a "remove/delete object tool", and when you point to an object
(other than any loaded document), the object is removed? I have often
wanted to remove particular objects and not remove them in sequence.
Issue: Whiteboard objects are not removed (undone) in correct sequence
they are placed on the screen by multiple people.
Repeatable test:
Step 1, Person A joins a Conference room and becomes the moderator of
the meeting.
Step 2, Person B joins a Conference room.
Step 3, Person A grants Person B "Draw on the Whiteboard" rights.
Step 4, Person A loads a file (slideshow, PDF) to the whiteboard [NB:
this step is optional, but likely in real scenario]
Step 5, Person A draws one or more objects on the screen (for example
draws an ellipse around a word in the current slide)
Step 6, Person B draws one or more objects on the screen (for example
draws an ellipse around a different word in the current slide)
Step 7, Person A draws another draws an object on the screen (for
example an arrow)
Step 8, Person B draws another object on the screen (for example an
arrow)
Step 9, Now if either Person A or Person B attempts to undo each object
that has been drawn to the screen, objects are not removed correctly. I
am having difficulties in following exactly what is a happening, but I
think that on the screen of the person who is undoing the objects, the
object/s that were placed on the screen first before the other person
placed their object/s, cannot be undone but will then "float" or appear
on their view of the Whiteboard all the time, even the slides are
advanced. Often the person who is undoing the objects, sees the any
remaining objects will keep clicking the Undo, which then remove the
loaded document from the other person's screen (but not their own).
Note: I believe that the object/s that remain on the screen after the
person has pressed the Undo button and cannot remove the object/s, only
display on the screen of the person who is doing the "Undoing". The
other person's screen is cleared.
Can anyone better identify and explain what is actually happening. It
looks like OpenMeetings has an object stack for the first person to
place an object on the screen and when someone else places an object on
the Whiteboard, a global object stack is created, but the contents of
the first user's stack is not copied to the global stack, so when the
person attempts to "undo" each object from the global stack, the first
object/s on their own stack remain.
While very annoying, this bug does not stop people from using
OpenMeetings, so I have delayed reporting it until now.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
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http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de>
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Re: Annoying bug with undoing Whiteboard objects
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
Hi George,
To remove single objects you can use the blank arrow select single objects
and then either use the delete key or click on the red square in the
virtual selection box.
For the undo I guess you're right, there seems to be an issue.
Thanks for checking a stable scenario, I will try to reproduce it and fix
the problem.
Sebastian
2012/5/11 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
> Hi,****
>
> ** **
>
> Please let me know if you can simulate this bug (I believe it has been
> around since version 1.9)****
>
> ** **
>
> Possible Fix: Instead of using a stack approach to undoing objects, why
> not have a “remove/delete object tool”, and when you point to an object
> (other than any loaded document), the object is removed? I have often
> wanted to remove particular objects and not remove them in sequence.****
>
> ** **
>
> *Issue:* Whiteboard objects are not removed (undone) in correct sequence
> they are placed on the screen by multiple people.****
>
> ** **
>
> Repeatable test: ****
>
> Step 1, Person A joins a Conference room and becomes the moderator of the
> meeting.****
>
> Step 2, Person B joins a Conference room.****
>
> Step 3, Person A grants Person B “Draw on the Whiteboard” rights.****
>
> Step 4, Person A loads a file (slideshow, PDF) to the whiteboard [NB:
> this step is optional, but likely in real scenario]****
>
> Step 5, Person A draws one or more objects on the screen (for example
> draws an ellipse around a word in the current slide) ****
>
> Step 6, Person B draws one or more objects on the screen (for example
> draws an ellipse around a different word in the current slide) ****
>
> Step 7, Person A draws another draws an object on the screen (for example
> an arrow)****
>
> Step 8, Person B draws another object on the screen (for example an arrow)
> ****
>
> Step 9, Now if either Person A or Person B attempts to undo each object
> that has been drawn to the screen, objects are not removed correctly. I am
> having difficulties in following exactly what is a happening, but I think
> that on the screen of the person who is undoing the objects, the object/s
> that were placed on the screen first before the other person placed their
> object/s, cannot be undone but will then “float” or appear on their view of
> the Whiteboard all the time, even the slides are advanced. Often the
> person who is undoing the objects, sees the any remaining objects will keep
> clicking the Undo, which then remove the loaded document from the other
> person’s screen (but not their own).****
>
> Note: I believe that the object/s that remain on the screen after the
> person has pressed the Undo button and cannot remove the object/s, only
> display on the screen of the person who is doing the “Undoing”. The other
> person’s screen is cleared.****
>
> ** **
>
> Can anyone better identify and explain what is actually happening. It
> looks like OpenMeetings has an object stack for the first person to place
> an object on the screen and when someone else places an object on the
> Whiteboard, a global object stack is created, but the contents of the first
> user’s stack is not copied to the global stack, so when the person attempts
> to “undo” each object from the global stack, the first object/s on their
> own stack remain. ****
>
> ** **
>
> While very annoying, this bug does not stop people from using
> OpenMeetings, so I have delayed reporting it until now. ****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,****
>
> ** **
>
> George Kirkham****
>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
http://www.openmeetings.de
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
seba.wagner@gmail.com
Annoying bug with undoing Whiteboard objects
Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Hi,
Please let me know if you can simulate this bug (I believe it has been
around since version 1.9)
Possible Fix: Instead of using a stack approach to undoing objects, why
not have a "remove/delete object tool", and when you point to an object
(other than any loaded document), the object is removed? I have often
wanted to remove particular objects and not remove them in sequence.
Issue: Whiteboard objects are not removed (undone) in correct sequence
they are placed on the screen by multiple people.
Repeatable test:
Step 1, Person A joins a Conference room and becomes the moderator of
the meeting.
Step 2, Person B joins a Conference room.
Step 3, Person A grants Person B "Draw on the Whiteboard" rights.
Step 4, Person A loads a file (slideshow, PDF) to the whiteboard [NB:
this step is optional, but likely in real scenario]
Step 5, Person A draws one or more objects on the screen (for example
draws an ellipse around a word in the current slide)
Step 6, Person B draws one or more objects on the screen (for example
draws an ellipse around a different word in the current slide)
Step 7, Person A draws another draws an object on the screen (for
example an arrow)
Step 8, Person B draws another object on the screen (for example an
arrow)
Step 9, Now if either Person A or Person B attempts to undo each object
that has been drawn to the screen, objects are not removed correctly. I
am having difficulties in following exactly what is a happening, but I
think that on the screen of the person who is undoing the objects, the
object/s that were placed on the screen first before the other person
placed their object/s, cannot be undone but will then "float" or appear
on their view of the Whiteboard all the time, even the slides are
advanced. Often the person who is undoing the objects, sees the any
remaining objects will keep clicking the Undo, which then remove the
loaded document from the other person's screen (but not their own).
Note: I believe that the object/s that remain on the screen after the
person has pressed the Undo button and cannot remove the object/s, only
display on the screen of the person who is doing the "Undoing". The
other person's screen is cleared.
Can anyone better identify and explain what is actually happening. It
looks like OpenMeetings has an object stack for the first person to
place an object on the screen and when someone else places an object on
the Whiteboard, a global object stack is created, but the contents of
the first user's stack is not copied to the global stack, so when the
person attempts to "undo" each object from the global stack, the first
object/s on their own stack remain.
While very annoying, this bug does not stop people from using
OpenMeetings, so I have delayed reporting it until now.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
Re: But if there is anything I can do to further this effort, please
let me know!
Posted by Daniel Ascher <da...@aplustutoring.com>.
Thanks again!
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:49 AM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
> There is a demo video here:
> http://moodle.openmeetings.de/
>
> I think the demo server itself does not work as the plugin is not yet
> upgraded.
>
>
> Sebastian
>
> 2012/5/11 Daniel Ascher <da...@aplustutoring.com>
>
>> Thanks so much Sebastian. I am aware of Moodle but haven't investigated
>> it thoroughly. Is there an example of these integrations that I can check
>> out?
>>
>> Best.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 4:02 AM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
>> seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Dan,
>>>
>>> do you know Moodle? We maintain a module in our repository to integrate
>>> Openmeetings into Moodle:
>>>
>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/trunk/plugins/moodle_plugin/
>>> The plugin should work with moodle 2.0.
>>>
>>> There are also plugins for ATutor and Sakai Open Source.
>>> The ATutor plugin is currently updated to work with OpenMeetings 2.0.
>>>
>>> Maybe those platforms help you to realize your idea.
>>>
>>> Sebastian
>>>
>>>
>>> 2012/5/11 Daniel Ascher <da...@aplustutoring.com>
>>>
>>>> Hi George:
>>>>
>>>> I am very happy to participate in such an effort. I think it is a great
>>>> idea. I may need some help with finding log files for instance, if that is
>>>> needed when I report back on an issue. But I agree that if we pool our
>>>> efforts we can make this works as well as possible.
>>>>
>>>> By the way, I am also interested in creating a web site that includes a
>>>> database system and a user interface that works with OM. Users would log
>>>> into this website, create an account, and do a number of other functions.
>>>> This website will be tailored to the needs of professional tutors and other
>>>> professionals and consultants who need not only the meeting functions
>>>> included in OM, but a number of other features.
>>>>
>>>> Ideally it would tie in with OM seamlessly. If anyone has any
>>>> suggestions about this idea please let me know. And if anyone knows of a
>>>> developer particularly suited to this task I would appreciate you
>>>> forwarding their contact info to me.
>>>>
>>>> Best.
>>>>
>>>> Dan Ascher
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 5:31 PM, George Kirkham <gkirkham@co2crc.com.au
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dan, Sergey, Stephen, (and to myself),****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have an environment where you can test the
>>>>> stability/reliability of OpenMeetings. For example where several or more
>>>>> people can use OpenMeetings and report on any issues, and the try to repeat
>>>>> the same issue on another day.****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> A clear, methodical approach to observing, and then identifying how to
>>>>> repeat issues really help developers. It is even better if you can match
>>>>> the issue with entries in the log files.****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> While my OpenMeetings installation has been very good most of the
>>>>> time, there are instances where some of my “test” users in conference rooms
>>>>> have become unstable, but so far I have not had the time to be able to
>>>>> repeat the issue frequently enough to identify why (or to match the problem
>>>>> occurrences with an entries in the red5/log/*.log). These issues have not
>>>>> been too serious, closing the browser and logging back in to the room fixes
>>>>> most, on a few occasions I have had to reboot my PC. I have also observed
>>>>> more issues when the PC is wirelessly connect (wireless LAN), which could
>>>>> be related to my Wireless router.****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> My hope is that if there is enough of us “users of OpenMeetings”, we
>>>>> can identify issues, check with each other to see if the others can also
>>>>> create the same issue, thus confirm the problem is not just with our own
>>>>> environment, and be able to report an issue in a way that the developers
>>>>> can more easily identify and fix. I am sure that they have limited time to
>>>>> which the can contribute to OpenMeetings so if we can identify repeatable
>>>>> issues and rule out any personal environmental problems, it should help in
>>>>> reducing the reporting of problems which are not due to OpenMeetings itself.
>>>>> ****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> So my request for Dan, Sergey, Stephen and others is, “when I report
>>>>> an issue or a suggestion, please, when you have time, check my statements
>>>>> in your own OpenMeetings environements and see if what I say is correct or
>>>>> a worthwhile suggestion and then report back. Especially if I make a
>>>>> suggestion for an improvement for something that I would like but it does
>>>>> not make sense to you, or even better, you see an even more effective way
>>>>> the improvement can be implemented (e.g. let’s do some brain storming).
>>>>> Sometimes the most simplest of ideas are the greatest. For example, “one
>>>>> tool that OpenMeetings whiteboad does not currently have is a highlighter,
>>>>> like the highlighter pens”. ****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> George Kirkham****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com [mailto:
>>>>> aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com] *On Behalf Of *Daniel Ascher
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, 11 May 2012 2:29 AM
>>>>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: exclusive audio in Build #68****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to thank everyone who is working so hard on this project.
>>>>> I am not an engineer so I can't contribute any coding. But if there is
>>>>> anything I can do to further this effort, please let me know!
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan Ascher****
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Alexei Fedotov <
>>>>> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com> wrote:****
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm really happy seeing new faces (George, Sergey, Stephen) around
>>>>> with thoughtful and skillful posts - Openmeetings needs you, guys, for a
>>>>> strong community. The strong community is mandatory for us to leave
>>>>> incubation and become an full-scale Apache project.****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.****
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
>>>> President
>>>> A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
>>>> "Creating Bright Futures"
>>>>
>>>> 505 York Road, Suite 6
>>>> Jenkintown, PA 19046
>>>> Office: 215.886.9188
>>>> Direct: 267.242.9640
>>>> www.aplustutoring.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>>> http://www.openmeetings.de
>>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>>> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
>> President
>> A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
>> "Creating Bright Futures"
>>
>> 505 York Road, Suite 6
>> Jenkintown, PA 19046
>> Office: 215.886.9188
>> Direct: 267.242.9640
>> www.aplustutoring.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> http://www.openmeetings.de
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>
--
Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
President
A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
"Creating Bright Futures"
505 York Road, Suite 6
Jenkintown, PA 19046
Office: 215.886.9188
Direct: 267.242.9640
www.aplustutoring.com
Re: But if there is anything I can do to further this effort, please
let me know!
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
There is a demo video here:
http://moodle.openmeetings.de/
I think the demo server itself does not work as the plugin is not yet
upgraded.
Sebastian
2012/5/11 Daniel Ascher <da...@aplustutoring.com>
> Thanks so much Sebastian. I am aware of Moodle but haven't investigated it
> thoroughly. Is there an example of these integrations that I can check out?
>
> Best.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 4:02 AM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
> seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Dan,
>>
>> do you know Moodle? We maintain a module in our repository to integrate
>> Openmeetings into Moodle:
>>
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/trunk/plugins/moodle_plugin/
>> The plugin should work with moodle 2.0.
>>
>> There are also plugins for ATutor and Sakai Open Source.
>> The ATutor plugin is currently updated to work with OpenMeetings 2.0.
>>
>> Maybe those platforms help you to realize your idea.
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>>
>> 2012/5/11 Daniel Ascher <da...@aplustutoring.com>
>>
>>> Hi George:
>>>
>>> I am very happy to participate in such an effort. I think it is a great
>>> idea. I may need some help with finding log files for instance, if that is
>>> needed when I report back on an issue. But I agree that if we pool our
>>> efforts we can make this works as well as possible.
>>>
>>> By the way, I am also interested in creating a web site that includes a
>>> database system and a user interface that works with OM. Users would log
>>> into this website, create an account, and do a number of other functions.
>>> This website will be tailored to the needs of professional tutors and other
>>> professionals and consultants who need not only the meeting functions
>>> included in OM, but a number of other features.
>>>
>>> Ideally it would tie in with OM seamlessly. If anyone has any
>>> suggestions about this idea please let me know. And if anyone knows of a
>>> developer particularly suited to this task I would appreciate you
>>> forwarding their contact info to me.
>>>
>>> Best.
>>>
>>> Dan Ascher
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 5:31 PM, George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dan, Sergey, Stephen, (and to myself),****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Do you have an environment where you can test the stability/reliability
>>>> of OpenMeetings. For example where several or more people can use
>>>> OpenMeetings and report on any issues, and the try to repeat the same issue
>>>> on another day.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> A clear, methodical approach to observing, and then identifying how to
>>>> repeat issues really help developers. It is even better if you can match
>>>> the issue with entries in the log files.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> While my OpenMeetings installation has been very good most of the time,
>>>> there are instances where some of my “test” users in conference rooms have
>>>> become unstable, but so far I have not had the time to be able to repeat
>>>> the issue frequently enough to identify why (or to match the problem
>>>> occurrences with an entries in the red5/log/*.log). These issues have not
>>>> been too serious, closing the browser and logging back in to the room fixes
>>>> most, on a few occasions I have had to reboot my PC. I have also observed
>>>> more issues when the PC is wirelessly connect (wireless LAN), which could
>>>> be related to my Wireless router.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> My hope is that if there is enough of us “users of OpenMeetings”, we
>>>> can identify issues, check with each other to see if the others can also
>>>> create the same issue, thus confirm the problem is not just with our own
>>>> environment, and be able to report an issue in a way that the developers
>>>> can more easily identify and fix. I am sure that they have limited time to
>>>> which the can contribute to OpenMeetings so if we can identify repeatable
>>>> issues and rule out any personal environmental problems, it should help in
>>>> reducing the reporting of problems which are not due to OpenMeetings itself.
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> So my request for Dan, Sergey, Stephen and others is, “when I report an
>>>> issue or a suggestion, please, when you have time, check my statements in
>>>> your own OpenMeetings environements and see if what I say is correct or a
>>>> worthwhile suggestion and then report back. Especially if I make a
>>>> suggestion for an improvement for something that I would like but it does
>>>> not make sense to you, or even better, you see an even more effective way
>>>> the improvement can be implemented (e.g. let’s do some brain storming).
>>>> Sometimes the most simplest of ideas are the greatest. For example, “one
>>>> tool that OpenMeetings whiteboad does not currently have is a highlighter,
>>>> like the highlighter pens”. ****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> George Kirkham****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> *From:* aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com [mailto:
>>>> aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com] *On Behalf Of *Daniel Ascher
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, 11 May 2012 2:29 AM
>>>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>>>> *Subject:* Re: exclusive audio in Build #68****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> I would like to thank everyone who is working so hard on this project.
>>>> I am not an engineer so I can't contribute any coding. But if there is
>>>> anything I can do to further this effort, please let me know!
>>>>
>>>> Dan Ascher****
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Alexei Fedotov <
>>>> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com> wrote:****
>>>>
>>>> I'm really happy seeing new faces (George, Sergey, Stephen) around
>>>> with thoughtful and skillful posts - Openmeetings needs you, guys, for a
>>>> strong community. The strong community is mandatory for us to leave
>>>> incubation and become an full-scale Apache project.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.****
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
>>> President
>>> A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
>>> "Creating Bright Futures"
>>>
>>> 505 York Road, Suite 6
>>> Jenkintown, PA 19046
>>> Office: 215.886.9188
>>> Direct: 267.242.9640
>>> www.aplustutoring.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>> http://www.openmeetings.de
>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
> President
> A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
> "Creating Bright Futures"
>
> 505 York Road, Suite 6
> Jenkintown, PA 19046
> Office: 215.886.9188
> Direct: 267.242.9640
> www.aplustutoring.com
>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
http://www.openmeetings.de
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
seba.wagner@gmail.com
Re: But if there is anything I can do to further this effort, please
let me know!
Posted by Daniel Ascher <da...@aplustutoring.com>.
Thanks so much Sebastian. I am aware of Moodle but haven't investigated it
thoroughly. Is there an example of these integrations that I can check out?
Best.
Dan
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 4:02 AM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Dan,
>
> do you know Moodle? We maintain a module in our repository to integrate
> Openmeetings into Moodle:
>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/trunk/plugins/moodle_plugin/
> The plugin should work with moodle 2.0.
>
> There are also plugins for ATutor and Sakai Open Source.
> The ATutor plugin is currently updated to work with OpenMeetings 2.0.
>
> Maybe those platforms help you to realize your idea.
>
> Sebastian
>
>
> 2012/5/11 Daniel Ascher <da...@aplustutoring.com>
>
>> Hi George:
>>
>> I am very happy to participate in such an effort. I think it is a great
>> idea. I may need some help with finding log files for instance, if that is
>> needed when I report back on an issue. But I agree that if we pool our
>> efforts we can make this works as well as possible.
>>
>> By the way, I am also interested in creating a web site that includes a
>> database system and a user interface that works with OM. Users would log
>> into this website, create an account, and do a number of other functions.
>> This website will be tailored to the needs of professional tutors and other
>> professionals and consultants who need not only the meeting functions
>> included in OM, but a number of other features.
>>
>> Ideally it would tie in with OM seamlessly. If anyone has any suggestions
>> about this idea please let me know. And if anyone knows of a developer
>> particularly suited to this task I would appreciate you forwarding their
>> contact info to me.
>>
>> Best.
>>
>> Dan Ascher
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 5:31 PM, George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>wrote:
>>
>>> Dan, Sergey, Stephen, (and to myself),****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Do you have an environment where you can test the stability/reliability
>>> of OpenMeetings. For example where several or more people can use
>>> OpenMeetings and report on any issues, and the try to repeat the same issue
>>> on another day.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> A clear, methodical approach to observing, and then identifying how to
>>> repeat issues really help developers. It is even better if you can match
>>> the issue with entries in the log files.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> While my OpenMeetings installation has been very good most of the time,
>>> there are instances where some of my “test” users in conference rooms have
>>> become unstable, but so far I have not had the time to be able to repeat
>>> the issue frequently enough to identify why (or to match the problem
>>> occurrences with an entries in the red5/log/*.log). These issues have not
>>> been too serious, closing the browser and logging back in to the room fixes
>>> most, on a few occasions I have had to reboot my PC. I have also observed
>>> more issues when the PC is wirelessly connect (wireless LAN), which could
>>> be related to my Wireless router.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> My hope is that if there is enough of us “users of OpenMeetings”, we can
>>> identify issues, check with each other to see if the others can also create
>>> the same issue, thus confirm the problem is not just with our own
>>> environment, and be able to report an issue in a way that the developers
>>> can more easily identify and fix. I am sure that they have limited time to
>>> which the can contribute to OpenMeetings so if we can identify repeatable
>>> issues and rule out any personal environmental problems, it should help in
>>> reducing the reporting of problems which are not due to OpenMeetings itself.
>>> ****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> So my request for Dan, Sergey, Stephen and others is, “when I report an
>>> issue or a suggestion, please, when you have time, check my statements in
>>> your own OpenMeetings environements and see if what I say is correct or a
>>> worthwhile suggestion and then report back. Especially if I make a
>>> suggestion for an improvement for something that I would like but it does
>>> not make sense to you, or even better, you see an even more effective way
>>> the improvement can be implemented (e.g. let’s do some brain storming).
>>> Sometimes the most simplest of ideas are the greatest. For example, “one
>>> tool that OpenMeetings whiteboad does not currently have is a highlighter,
>>> like the highlighter pens”. ****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Thanks,****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> George Kirkham****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *From:* aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com [mailto:
>>> aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com] *On Behalf Of *Daniel Ascher
>>> *Sent:* Friday, 11 May 2012 2:29 AM
>>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: exclusive audio in Build #68****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> I would like to thank everyone who is working so hard on this project. I
>>> am not an engineer so I can't contribute any coding. But if there is
>>> anything I can do to further this effort, please let me know!
>>>
>>> Dan Ascher****
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Alexei Fedotov <
>>> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com> wrote:****
>>>
>>> I'm really happy seeing new faces (George, Sergey, Stephen) around
>>> with thoughtful and skillful posts - Openmeetings needs you, guys, for a
>>> strong community. The strong community is mandatory for us to leave
>>> incubation and become an full-scale Apache project.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Thank you.****
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
>> President
>> A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
>> "Creating Bright Futures"
>>
>> 505 York Road, Suite 6
>> Jenkintown, PA 19046
>> Office: 215.886.9188
>> Direct: 267.242.9640
>> www.aplustutoring.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> http://www.openmeetings.de
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>
--
Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
President
A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
"Creating Bright Futures"
505 York Road, Suite 6
Jenkintown, PA 19046
Office: 215.886.9188
Direct: 267.242.9640
www.aplustutoring.com
Re: But if there is anything I can do to further this effort, please
let me know!
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
Hi Dan,
do you know Moodle? We maintain a module in our repository to integrate
Openmeetings into Moodle:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/trunk/plugins/moodle_plugin/
The plugin should work with moodle 2.0.
There are also plugins for ATutor and Sakai Open Source.
The ATutor plugin is currently updated to work with OpenMeetings 2.0.
Maybe those platforms help you to realize your idea.
Sebastian
2012/5/11 Daniel Ascher <da...@aplustutoring.com>
> Hi George:
>
> I am very happy to participate in such an effort. I think it is a great
> idea. I may need some help with finding log files for instance, if that is
> needed when I report back on an issue. But I agree that if we pool our
> efforts we can make this works as well as possible.
>
> By the way, I am also interested in creating a web site that includes a
> database system and a user interface that works with OM. Users would log
> into this website, create an account, and do a number of other functions.
> This website will be tailored to the needs of professional tutors and other
> professionals and consultants who need not only the meeting functions
> included in OM, but a number of other features.
>
> Ideally it would tie in with OM seamlessly. If anyone has any suggestions
> about this idea please let me know. And if anyone knows of a developer
> particularly suited to this task I would appreciate you forwarding their
> contact info to me.
>
> Best.
>
> Dan Ascher
>
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 5:31 PM, George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>wrote:
>
>> Dan, Sergey, Stephen, (and to myself),****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Do you have an environment where you can test the stability/reliability
>> of OpenMeetings. For example where several or more people can use
>> OpenMeetings and report on any issues, and the try to repeat the same issue
>> on another day.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> A clear, methodical approach to observing, and then identifying how to
>> repeat issues really help developers. It is even better if you can match
>> the issue with entries in the log files.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> While my OpenMeetings installation has been very good most of the time,
>> there are instances where some of my “test” users in conference rooms have
>> become unstable, but so far I have not had the time to be able to repeat
>> the issue frequently enough to identify why (or to match the problem
>> occurrences with an entries in the red5/log/*.log). These issues have not
>> been too serious, closing the browser and logging back in to the room fixes
>> most, on a few occasions I have had to reboot my PC. I have also observed
>> more issues when the PC is wirelessly connect (wireless LAN), which could
>> be related to my Wireless router.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> My hope is that if there is enough of us “users of OpenMeetings”, we can
>> identify issues, check with each other to see if the others can also create
>> the same issue, thus confirm the problem is not just with our own
>> environment, and be able to report an issue in a way that the developers
>> can more easily identify and fix. I am sure that they have limited time to
>> which the can contribute to OpenMeetings so if we can identify repeatable
>> issues and rule out any personal environmental problems, it should help in
>> reducing the reporting of problems which are not due to OpenMeetings itself.
>> ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> So my request for Dan, Sergey, Stephen and others is, “when I report an
>> issue or a suggestion, please, when you have time, check my statements in
>> your own OpenMeetings environements and see if what I say is correct or a
>> worthwhile suggestion and then report back. Especially if I make a
>> suggestion for an improvement for something that I would like but it does
>> not make sense to you, or even better, you see an even more effective way
>> the improvement can be implemented (e.g. let’s do some brain storming).
>> Sometimes the most simplest of ideas are the greatest. For example, “one
>> tool that OpenMeetings whiteboad does not currently have is a highlighter,
>> like the highlighter pens”. ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Thanks,****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> George Kirkham****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com [mailto:aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com]
>> *On Behalf Of *Daniel Ascher
>> *Sent:* Friday, 11 May 2012 2:29 AM
>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>> *Subject:* Re: exclusive audio in Build #68****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I would like to thank everyone who is working so hard on this project. I
>> am not an engineer so I can't contribute any coding. But if there is
>> anything I can do to further this effort, please let me know!
>>
>> Dan Ascher****
>>
>> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Alexei Fedotov <
>> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com> wrote:****
>>
>> I'm really happy seeing new faces (George, Sergey, Stephen) around
>> with thoughtful and skillful posts - Openmeetings needs you, guys, for a
>> strong community. The strong community is mandatory for us to leave
>> incubation and become an full-scale Apache project.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Thank you.****
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
> President
> A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
> "Creating Bright Futures"
>
> 505 York Road, Suite 6
> Jenkintown, PA 19046
> Office: 215.886.9188
> Direct: 267.242.9640
> www.aplustutoring.com
>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
http://www.openmeetings.de
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
seba.wagner@gmail.com
Re: But if there is anything I can do to further this effort, please
let me know!
Posted by Daniel Ascher <da...@aplustutoring.com>.
Hi George:
I am very happy to participate in such an effort. I think it is a great
idea. I may need some help with finding log files for instance, if that is
needed when I report back on an issue. But I agree that if we pool our
efforts we can make this works as well as possible.
By the way, I am also interested in creating a web site that includes a
database system and a user interface that works with OM. Users would log
into this website, create an account, and do a number of other functions.
This website will be tailored to the needs of professional tutors and other
professionals and consultants who need not only the meeting functions
included in OM, but a number of other features.
Ideally it would tie in with OM seamlessly. If anyone has any suggestions
about this idea please let me know. And if anyone knows of a developer
particularly suited to this task I would appreciate you forwarding their
contact info to me.
Best.
Dan Ascher
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 5:31 PM, George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>wrote:
> Dan, Sergey, Stephen, (and to myself),****
>
> ** **
>
> Do you have an environment where you can test the stability/reliability of
> OpenMeetings. For example where several or more people can use
> OpenMeetings and report on any issues, and the try to repeat the same issue
> on another day.****
>
> ** **
>
> A clear, methodical approach to observing, and then identifying how to
> repeat issues really help developers. It is even better if you can match
> the issue with entries in the log files.****
>
> ** **
>
> While my OpenMeetings installation has been very good most of the time,
> there are instances where some of my “test” users in conference rooms have
> become unstable, but so far I have not had the time to be able to repeat
> the issue frequently enough to identify why (or to match the problem
> occurrences with an entries in the red5/log/*.log). These issues have not
> been too serious, closing the browser and logging back in to the room fixes
> most, on a few occasions I have had to reboot my PC. I have also observed
> more issues when the PC is wirelessly connect (wireless LAN), which could
> be related to my Wireless router.****
>
> ** **
>
> My hope is that if there is enough of us “users of OpenMeetings”, we can
> identify issues, check with each other to see if the others can also create
> the same issue, thus confirm the problem is not just with our own
> environment, and be able to report an issue in a way that the developers
> can more easily identify and fix. I am sure that they have limited time to
> which the can contribute to OpenMeetings so if we can identify repeatable
> issues and rule out any personal environmental problems, it should help in
> reducing the reporting of problems which are not due to OpenMeetings itself.
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> So my request for Dan, Sergey, Stephen and others is, “when I report an
> issue or a suggestion, please, when you have time, check my statements in
> your own OpenMeetings environements and see if what I say is correct or a
> worthwhile suggestion and then report back. Especially if I make a
> suggestion for an improvement for something that I would like but it does
> not make sense to you, or even better, you see an even more effective way
> the improvement can be implemented (e.g. let’s do some brain storming).
> Sometimes the most simplest of ideas are the greatest. For example, “one
> tool that OpenMeetings whiteboad does not currently have is a highlighter,
> like the highlighter pens”. ****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,****
>
> ** **
>
> George Kirkham****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com [mailto:aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Daniel Ascher
> *Sent:* Friday, 11 May 2012 2:29 AM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: exclusive audio in Build #68****
>
> ** **
>
> I would like to thank everyone who is working so hard on this project. I
> am not an engineer so I can't contribute any coding. But if there is
> anything I can do to further this effort, please let me know!
>
> Dan Ascher****
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
> wrote:****
>
> I'm really happy seeing new faces (George, Sergey, Stephen) around
> with thoughtful and skillful posts - Openmeetings needs you, guys, for a
> strong community. The strong community is mandatory for us to leave
> incubation and become an full-scale Apache project.****
>
> ** **
>
> Thank you.****
>
--
Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
President
A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
"Creating Bright Futures"
505 York Road, Suite 6
Jenkintown, PA 19046
Office: 215.886.9188
Direct: 267.242.9640
www.aplustutoring.com
Re: Request for improvement
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
@George: I did not notice that yet, if so then you're right. The choose
device UI should be always top level UI element.
Sebastian
2012/5/11 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
> OpenMeetings 2.0 build xx is to my knowledge the code being updated. So to
> answer your question, “yes, 2.0”.****
>
> ** **
>
> How often do you update your OpenMeetings server, and would you have both
> a prod and a test server? Can be handy to do so. ****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,****
>
> ** **
>
> George Kirkham****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com [mailto:aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Daniel Ascher
> *Sent:* Friday, 11 May 2012 9:57 AM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Request for improvement****
>
> ** **
>
> Is this only in OM 2.0, because I don't see this in the prior version?
>
> Dan****
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 7:37 PM, George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
> wrote:****
>
> Sebastian,****
>
> ****
>
> I have noticed that when a person joins a room, any video windows from
> other users who are already in the room load up over the top of their
> “Choose Devices” Window. This makes it difficult for them to select
> settings (until they move all of the video Windows out of the way). It
> would be much better if the “Choose Devices” Window could be the top most
> (i.e. above/on top the Video Windows).****
>
> ****
>
> Users who are not intimately familiar with OpenMeetings get confused
> because they don’t see the “Choose Devices” dialog.****
>
> ****
>
> Thanks,****
>
> ****
>
> George Kirkham****
>
> ****
>
> IT Manager****
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) ****
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia****
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600****
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181****
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au, ****
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> *From:* George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
> *Sent:* Friday, 11 May 2012 7:31 AM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* But if there is anything I can do to further this effort,
> please let me know!****
>
> ****
>
> Dan, Sergey, Stephen, (and to myself),****
>
> ****
>
> Do you have an environment where you can test the stability/reliability of
> OpenMeetings. For example where several or more people can use
> OpenMeetings and report on any issues, and the try to repeat the same issue
> on another day.****
>
> ****
>
> A clear, methodical approach to observing, and then identifying how to
> repeat issues really help developers. It is even better if you can match
> the issue with entries in the log files.****
>
> ****
>
> While my OpenMeetings installation has been very good most of the time,
> there are instances where some of my “test” users in conference rooms have
> become unstable, but so far I have not had the time to be able to repeat
> the issue frequently enough to identify why (or to match the problem
> occurrences with an entries in the red5/log/*.log). These issues have not
> been too serious, closing the browser and logging back in to the room fixes
> most, on a few occasions I have had to reboot my PC. I have also observed
> more issues when the PC is wirelessly connect (wireless LAN), which could
> be related to my Wireless router.****
>
> ****
>
> My hope is that if there is enough of us “users of OpenMeetings”, we can
> identify issues, check with each other to see if the others can also create
> the same issue, thus confirm the problem is not just with our own
> environment, and be able to report an issue in a way that the developers
> can more easily identify and fix. I am sure that they have limited time to
> which the can contribute to OpenMeetings so if we can identify repeatable
> issues and rule out any personal environmental problems, it should help in
> reducing the reporting of problems which are not due to OpenMeetings itself.
> ****
>
> ****
>
> So my request for Dan, Sergey, Stephen and others is, “when I report an
> issue or a suggestion, please, when you have time, check my statements in
> your own OpenMeetings environements and see if what I say is correct or a
> worthwhile suggestion and then report back. Especially if I make a
> suggestion for an improvement for something that I would like but it does
> not make sense to you, or even better, you see an even more effective way
> the improvement can be implemented (e.g. let’s do some brain storming).
> Sometimes the most simplest of ideas are the greatest. For example, “one
> tool that OpenMeetings whiteboad does not currently have is a highlighter,
> like the highlighter pens”. ****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> Thanks,****
>
> ****
>
> George Kirkham****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> *From:* aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com [mailto:aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com<ap...@aplustutoring.com>]
> *On Behalf Of *Daniel Ascher
> *Sent:* Friday, 11 May 2012 2:29 AM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: exclusive audio in Build #68****
>
> ****
>
> I would like to thank everyone who is working so hard on this project. I
> am not an engineer so I can't contribute any coding. But if there is
> anything I can do to further this effort, please let me know!
>
> Dan Ascher****
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
> wrote:****
>
> I'm really happy seeing new faces (George, Sergey, Stephen) around
> with thoughtful and skillful posts - Openmeetings needs you, guys, for a
> strong community. The strong community is mandatory for us to leave
> incubation and become an full-scale Apache project.****
>
> ****
>
> Thank you.****
>
>
>
>
> --
> Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
> President
> A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
> "Creating Bright Futures"
>
> 505 York Road, Suite 6
> Jenkintown, PA 19046
> Office: 215.886.9188
> Direct: 267.242.9640
> www.aplustutoring.com****
>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
http://www.openmeetings.de
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
seba.wagner@gmail.com
RE: Request for improvement
Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
OpenMeetings 2.0 build xx is to my knowledge the code being updated. So
to answer your question, "yes, 2.0".
How often do you update your OpenMeetings server, and would you have
both a prod and a test server? Can be handy to do so.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
From: aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com [mailto:aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com]
On Behalf Of Daniel Ascher
Sent: Friday, 11 May 2012 9:57 AM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Request for improvement
Is this only in OM 2.0, because I don't see this in the prior version?
Dan
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 7:37 PM, George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
wrote:
Sebastian,
I have noticed that when a person joins a room, any video windows from
other users who are already in the room load up over the top of their
"Choose Devices" Window. This makes it difficult for them to select
settings (until they move all of the video Windows out of the way). It
would be much better if the "Choose Devices" Window could be the top
most (i.e. above/on top the Video Windows).
Users who are not intimately familiar with OpenMeetings get confused
because they don't see the "Choose Devices" dialog.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
W: www.co2crc.com.au
From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
Sent: Friday, 11 May 2012 7:31 AM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: But if there is anything I can do to further this effort,
please let me know!
Dan, Sergey, Stephen, (and to myself),
Do you have an environment where you can test the stability/reliability
of OpenMeetings. For example where several or more people can use
OpenMeetings and report on any issues, and the try to repeat the same
issue on another day.
A clear, methodical approach to observing, and then identifying how to
repeat issues really help developers. It is even better if you can
match the issue with entries in the log files.
While my OpenMeetings installation has been very good most of the time,
there are instances where some of my "test" users in conference rooms
have become unstable, but so far I have not had the time to be able to
repeat the issue frequently enough to identify why (or to match the
problem occurrences with an entries in the red5/log/*.log). These
issues have not been too serious, closing the browser and logging back
in to the room fixes most, on a few occasions I have had to reboot my
PC. I have also observed more issues when the PC is wirelessly connect
(wireless LAN), which could be related to my Wireless router.
My hope is that if there is enough of us "users of OpenMeetings", we can
identify issues, check with each other to see if the others can also
create the same issue, thus confirm the problem is not just with our own
environment, and be able to report an issue in a way that the developers
can more easily identify and fix. I am sure that they have limited time
to which the can contribute to OpenMeetings so if we can identify
repeatable issues and rule out any personal environmental problems, it
should help in reducing the reporting of problems which are not due to
OpenMeetings itself.
So my request for Dan, Sergey, Stephen and others is, "when I report an
issue or a suggestion, please, when you have time, check my statements
in your own OpenMeetings environements and see if what I say is correct
or a worthwhile suggestion and then report back. Especially if I make a
suggestion for an improvement for something that I would like but it
does not make sense to you, or even better, you see an even more
effective way the improvement can be implemented (e.g. let's do some
brain storming). Sometimes the most simplest of ideas are the greatest.
For example, "one tool that OpenMeetings whiteboad does not currently
have is a highlighter, like the highlighter pens".
Thanks,
George Kirkham
From: aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com [mailto:aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com]
On Behalf Of Daniel Ascher
Sent: Friday, 11 May 2012 2:29 AM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: exclusive audio in Build #68
I would like to thank everyone who is working so hard on this project. I
am not an engineer so I can't contribute any coding. But if there is
anything I can do to further this effort, please let me know!
Dan Ascher
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Alexei Fedotov
<al...@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm really happy seeing new faces (George, Sergey, Stephen) around with
thoughtful and skillful posts - Openmeetings needs you, guys, for a
strong community. The strong community is mandatory for us to leave
incubation and become an full-scale Apache project.
Thank you.
--
Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
President
A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
"Creating Bright Futures"
505 York Road, Suite 6
Jenkintown, PA 19046
Office: 215.886.9188
Direct: 267.242.9640
www.aplustutoring.com <http://www.aplustutoring.com/>
Moodle intergration
Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Thanks Daniel, I appreciate your comment, and that you are reading the
posting people make and are responding, I hope that other may think
about this and make comment.
I am also interested in Moodle, so I am very interested in anything you
end up doing, and how to set it all up. Just I am very busy right now
working with OpenMeetings itself, I am not quite ready to add another
application to my work load. There was a change that people in my
organisation may use it, but nothing has happened yet. I did hear from
a friend studying in a local university that the really don't like
Moodle or understand how it can be helpful, but then they did explain
that it was not managed very well, the lectures who use it have no
common standard and so every lecturer's pages are inconsistent with each
other and what content is available varies between lecturer, leaving the
students very consfused. I am hoping that the implementation where you
are is much better. Maybe one day we could use OpenMeetings and you
could show me how your University is making use of Moodle?
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
W: www.co2crc.com.au
From: aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com [mailto:aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com]
On Behalf Of Daniel Ascher
Sent: Saturday, 12 May 2012 5:18 AM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Request for improvement - Square and Ellipse default to no
fill colour
I think making the default completely transparent makes sense. Then
users can change from there as needed.
Dan
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 3:57 AM, George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
wrote:
Sebastian,
Storing these settings in a cookie would be a nice touch but if it means
extra work, let's make it as easy as possible.
One issue for using cookies is that if you use different PCs then you
have to remember to make the setting again. The Cookie would certainly
help with people who like to use a favourite colour.
For me, simply having the default for fill to be turned off would be
great as I don't use the fill at all. If you were going to use fill,
turning it on and selecting the colour you want should not be that much
of an issue?
Just to ask, do you use the fill colour much? If people do, then having
the cookies would be a great bonus. I guess I never actually create
images on the white board, just draw on an uploaded slides or documents.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, 11 May 2012 4:59 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Request for improvement - Square and Ellipse default to no
fill colour
Hi George,
I would propose to store settings like: Default fill color, default line
color, default transparency and default line size in the user profile or
cookie data. That way the default settings are just like the ones you
have choosen the last time.
Sebastian
2012/5/11 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
Hi,
I would like to know your views on having the Square and Ellipse tools
default to "no fill colour".
I find that myself and others want to circle words or images in
presentations, and keep forgetting to turn off the fill colour. Since I
have never bothered to use the fill colour, my suggestion is to have the
fill colour turned off by default, and then people have to enable and
select a colour, to have the Square or Ellipse filled with a colour.
If it is found that there are those who want the fill colour enabled by
default and another group who want it disabled by default, then could
the default be a configuration option, e.g. FillDefault 0 = a default is
no fill colour, 1 = the default is to have a fill colour.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600 <tel:%2802%29%206120%201600>
F: (02) 6273 7181 <tel:%2802%29%206273%207181>
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
W: www.co2crc.com.au
From: aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com [mailto:aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com]
On Behalf Of Daniel Ascher
Sent: Friday, 11 May 2012 9:57 AM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Request for improvement
Is this only in OM 2.0, because I don't see this in the prior version?
Dan
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 7:37 PM, George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
wrote:
Sebastian,
I have noticed that when a person joins a room, any video windows from
other users who are already in the room load up over the top of their
"Choose Devices" Window. This makes it difficult for them to select
settings (until they move all of the video Windows out of the way). It
would be much better if the "Choose Devices" Window could be the top
most (i.e. above/on top the Video Windows).
Users who are not intimately familiar with OpenMeetings get confused
because they don't see the "Choose Devices" dialog.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600 <tel:%2802%29%206120%201600>
F: (02) 6273 7181 <tel:%2802%29%206273%207181>
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
W: www.co2crc.com.au
From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
Sent: Friday, 11 May 2012 7:31 AM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: But if there is anything I can do to further this effort,
please let me know!
Dan, Sergey, Stephen, (and to myself),
Do you have an environment where you can test the stability/reliability
of OpenMeetings. For example where several or more people can use
OpenMeetings and report on any issues, and the try to repeat the same
issue on another day.
A clear, methodical approach to observing, and then identifying how to
repeat issues really help developers. It is even better if you can
match the issue with entries in the log files.
While my OpenMeetings installation has been very good most of the time,
there are instances where some of my "test" users in conference rooms
have become unstable, but so far I have not had the time to be able to
repeat the issue frequently enough to identify why (or to match the
problem occurrences with an entries in the red5/log/*.log). These
issues have not been too serious, closing the browser and logging back
in to the room fixes most, on a few occasions I have had to reboot my
PC. I have also observed more issues when the PC is wirelessly connect
(wireless LAN), which could be related to my Wireless router.
My hope is that if there is enough of us "users of OpenMeetings", we can
identify issues, check with each other to see if the others can also
create the same issue, thus confirm the problem is not just with our own
environment, and be able to report an issue in a way that the developers
can more easily identify and fix. I am sure that they have limited time
to which the can contribute to OpenMeetings so if we can identify
repeatable issues and rule out any personal environmental problems, it
should help in reducing the reporting of problems which are not due to
OpenMeetings itself.
So my request for Dan, Sergey, Stephen and others is, "when I report an
issue or a suggestion, please, when you have time, check my statements
in your own OpenMeetings environements and see if what I say is correct
or a worthwhile suggestion and then report back. Especially if I make a
suggestion for an improvement for something that I would like but it
does not make sense to you, or even better, you see an even more
effective way the improvement can be implemented (e.g. let's do some
brain storming). Sometimes the most simplest of ideas are the greatest.
For example, "one tool that OpenMeetings whiteboad does not currently
have is a highlighter, like the highlighter pens".
Thanks,
George Kirkham
From: aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com [mailto:aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com]
On Behalf Of Daniel Ascher
Sent: Friday, 11 May 2012 2:29 AM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: exclusive audio in Build #68
I would like to thank everyone who is working so hard on this project. I
am not an engineer so I can't contribute any coding. But if there is
anything I can do to further this effort, please let me know!
Dan Ascher
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Alexei Fedotov
<al...@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm really happy seeing new faces (George, Sergey, Stephen) around with
thoughtful and skillful posts - Openmeetings needs you, guys, for a
strong community. The strong community is mandatory for us to leave
incubation and become an full-scale Apache project.
Thank you.
--
Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
President
A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
"Creating Bright Futures"
505 York Road, Suite 6
Jenkintown, PA 19046
Office: 215.886.9188
Direct: 267.242.9640
www.aplustutoring.com <http://www.aplustutoring.com/>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de>
http://www.webbase-design.de <http://www.webbase-design.de>
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com <http://www.wagner-sebastian.com>
seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
--
Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
President
A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
"Creating Bright Futures"
505 York Road, Suite 6
Jenkintown, PA 19046
Office: 215.886.9188
Direct: 267.242.9640
www.aplustutoring.com <http://www.aplustutoring.com/>
Re: Request for improvement - Square and Ellipse default to no fill colour
Posted by Daniel Ascher <da...@aplustutoring.com>.
I think making the default completely transparent makes sense. Then users
can change from there as needed.
Dan
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 3:57 AM, George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>wrote:
> Sebastian,****
>
> ** **
>
> Storing these settings in a cookie would be a nice touch but if it means
> extra work, let’s make it as easy as possible. ****
>
> ** **
>
> One issue for using cookies is that if you use different PCs then you have
> to remember to make the setting again. The Cookie would certainly help with
> people who like to use a favourite colour.****
>
> ** **
>
> For me, simply having the default for fill to be turned off would be great
> as I don’t use the fill at all. If you were going to use fill, turning it
> on and selecting the colour you want should not be that much of an issue?*
> ***
>
> ** **
>
> Just to ask, do you use the fill colour much? If people do, then having
> the cookies would be a great bonus. I guess I never actually create images
> on the white board, just draw on an uploaded slides or documents. ****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,****
>
> ** **
>
> George Kirkham****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, 11 May 2012 4:59 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Request for improvement - Square and Ellipse default to no
> fill colour****
>
> ** **
>
> Hi George,
>
> I would propose to store settings like: Default fill color, default line
> color, default transparency and default line size in the user profile or
> cookie data. That way the default settings are just like the ones you have
> choosen the last time.
>
> Sebastian****
>
> 2012/5/11 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>****
>
> Hi,****
>
> ****
>
> I would like to know your views on having the Square and Ellipse tools
> default to “no fill colour”.****
>
> ****
>
> I find that myself and others want to circle words or images in
> presentations, and keep forgetting to turn off the fill colour. Since I
> have never bothered to use the fill colour, my suggestion is to have the
> fill colour turned off by default, and then people have to enable and
> select a colour, to have the Square or Ellipse filled with a colour.****
>
> ****
>
> If it is found that there are those who want the fill colour enabled by
> default and another group who want it disabled by default, then could the
> default be a configuration option, e.g. FillDefault 0 = a default is no
> fill colour, 1 = the default is to have a fill colour.****
>
> ****
>
> Thanks,****
>
> ****
>
> George Kirkham****
>
> ****
>
> IT Manager****
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) ****
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia****
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600****
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181****
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au, ****
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> *From:* aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com [mailto:aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Daniel Ascher
> *Sent:* Friday, 11 May 2012 9:57 AM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Request for improvement****
>
> ****
>
> Is this only in OM 2.0, because I don't see this in the prior version?
>
> Dan****
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 7:37 PM, George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
> wrote:****
>
> Sebastian,****
>
> ****
>
> I have noticed that when a person joins a room, any video windows from
> other users who are already in the room load up over the top of their
> “Choose Devices” Window. This makes it difficult for them to select
> settings (until they move all of the video Windows out of the way). It
> would be much better if the “Choose Devices” Window could be the top most
> (i.e. above/on top the Video Windows).****
>
> ****
>
> Users who are not intimately familiar with OpenMeetings get confused
> because they don’t see the “Choose Devices” dialog.****
>
> ****
>
> Thanks,****
>
> ****
>
> George Kirkham****
>
> ****
>
> IT Manager****
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) ****
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia****
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600****
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181****
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au, ****
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> *From:* George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
> *Sent:* Friday, 11 May 2012 7:31 AM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* But if there is anything I can do to further this effort,
> please let me know!****
>
> ****
>
> Dan, Sergey, Stephen, (and to myself),****
>
> ****
>
> Do you have an environment where you can test the stability/reliability of
> OpenMeetings. For example where several or more people can use
> OpenMeetings and report on any issues, and the try to repeat the same issue
> on another day.****
>
> ****
>
> A clear, methodical approach to observing, and then identifying how to
> repeat issues really help developers. It is even better if you can match
> the issue with entries in the log files.****
>
> ****
>
> While my OpenMeetings installation has been very good most of the time,
> there are instances where some of my “test” users in conference rooms have
> become unstable, but so far I have not had the time to be able to repeat
> the issue frequently enough to identify why (or to match the problem
> occurrences with an entries in the red5/log/*.log). These issues have not
> been too serious, closing the browser and logging back in to the room fixes
> most, on a few occasions I have had to reboot my PC. I have also observed
> more issues when the PC is wirelessly connect (wireless LAN), which could
> be related to my Wireless router.****
>
> ****
>
> My hope is that if there is enough of us “users of OpenMeetings”, we can
> identify issues, check with each other to see if the others can also create
> the same issue, thus confirm the problem is not just with our own
> environment, and be able to report an issue in a way that the developers
> can more easily identify and fix. I am sure that they have limited time to
> which the can contribute to OpenMeetings so if we can identify repeatable
> issues and rule out any personal environmental problems, it should help in
> reducing the reporting of problems which are not due to OpenMeetings itself.
> ****
>
> ****
>
> So my request for Dan, Sergey, Stephen and others is, “when I report an
> issue or a suggestion, please, when you have time, check my statements in
> your own OpenMeetings environements and see if what I say is correct or a
> worthwhile suggestion and then report back. Especially if I make a
> suggestion for an improvement for something that I would like but it does
> not make sense to you, or even better, you see an even more effective way
> the improvement can be implemented (e.g. let’s do some brain storming).
> Sometimes the most simplest of ideas are the greatest. For example, “one
> tool that OpenMeetings whiteboad does not currently have is a highlighter,
> like the highlighter pens”. ****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> Thanks,****
>
> ****
>
> George Kirkham****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> *From:* aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com [mailto:aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com<ap...@aplustutoring.com>]
> *On Behalf Of *Daniel Ascher
> *Sent:* Friday, 11 May 2012 2:29 AM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: exclusive audio in Build #68****
>
> ****
>
> I would like to thank everyone who is working so hard on this project. I
> am not an engineer so I can't contribute any coding. But if there is
> anything I can do to further this effort, please let me know!
>
> Dan Ascher****
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
> wrote:****
>
> I'm really happy seeing new faces (George, Sergey, Stephen) around
> with thoughtful and skillful posts - Openmeetings needs you, guys, for a
> strong community. The strong community is mandatory for us to leave
> incubation and become an full-scale Apache project.****
>
> ****
>
> Thank you.****
>
>
>
>
> --
> Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
> President
> A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
> "Creating Bright Futures"
>
> 505 York Road, Suite 6
> Jenkintown, PA 19046
> Office: 215.886.9188
> Direct: 267.242.9640
> www.aplustutoring.com****
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> http://www.openmeetings.de
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wagner@gmail.com****
>
--
Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
President
A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
"Creating Bright Futures"
505 York Road, Suite 6
Jenkintown, PA 19046
Office: 215.886.9188
Direct: 267.242.9640
www.aplustutoring.com
RE: Request for improvement - Square and Ellipse default to no fill colour
Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Sebastian,
Storing these settings in a cookie would be a nice touch but if it means
extra work, let's make it as easy as possible.
One issue for using cookies is that if you use different PCs then you
have to remember to make the setting again. The Cookie would certainly
help with people who like to use a favourite colour.
For me, simply having the default for fill to be turned off would be
great as I don't use the fill at all. If you were going to use fill,
turning it on and selecting the colour you want should not be that much
of an issue?
Just to ask, do you use the fill colour much? If people do, then having
the cookies would be a great bonus. I guess I never actually create
images on the white board, just draw on an uploaded slides or documents.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, 11 May 2012 4:59 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Request for improvement - Square and Ellipse default to no
fill colour
Hi George,
I would propose to store settings like: Default fill color, default line
color, default transparency and default line size in the user profile or
cookie data. That way the default settings are just like the ones you
have choosen the last time.
Sebastian
2012/5/11 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
Hi,
I would like to know your views on having the Square and Ellipse tools
default to "no fill colour".
I find that myself and others want to circle words or images in
presentations, and keep forgetting to turn off the fill colour. Since I
have never bothered to use the fill colour, my suggestion is to have the
fill colour turned off by default, and then people have to enable and
select a colour, to have the Square or Ellipse filled with a colour.
If it is found that there are those who want the fill colour enabled by
default and another group who want it disabled by default, then could
the default be a configuration option, e.g. FillDefault 0 = a default is
no fill colour, 1 = the default is to have a fill colour.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600 <tel:%2802%29%206120%201600>
F: (02) 6273 7181 <tel:%2802%29%206273%207181>
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
W: www.co2crc.com.au
From: aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com [mailto:aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com]
On Behalf Of Daniel Ascher
Sent: Friday, 11 May 2012 9:57 AM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Request for improvement
Is this only in OM 2.0, because I don't see this in the prior version?
Dan
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 7:37 PM, George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
wrote:
Sebastian,
I have noticed that when a person joins a room, any video windows from
other users who are already in the room load up over the top of their
"Choose Devices" Window. This makes it difficult for them to select
settings (until they move all of the video Windows out of the way). It
would be much better if the "Choose Devices" Window could be the top
most (i.e. above/on top the Video Windows).
Users who are not intimately familiar with OpenMeetings get confused
because they don't see the "Choose Devices" dialog.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600 <tel:%2802%29%206120%201600>
F: (02) 6273 7181 <tel:%2802%29%206273%207181>
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
W: www.co2crc.com.au
From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
Sent: Friday, 11 May 2012 7:31 AM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: But if there is anything I can do to further this effort,
please let me know!
Dan, Sergey, Stephen, (and to myself),
Do you have an environment where you can test the stability/reliability
of OpenMeetings. For example where several or more people can use
OpenMeetings and report on any issues, and the try to repeat the same
issue on another day.
A clear, methodical approach to observing, and then identifying how to
repeat issues really help developers. It is even better if you can
match the issue with entries in the log files.
While my OpenMeetings installation has been very good most of the time,
there are instances where some of my "test" users in conference rooms
have become unstable, but so far I have not had the time to be able to
repeat the issue frequently enough to identify why (or to match the
problem occurrences with an entries in the red5/log/*.log). These
issues have not been too serious, closing the browser and logging back
in to the room fixes most, on a few occasions I have had to reboot my
PC. I have also observed more issues when the PC is wirelessly connect
(wireless LAN), which could be related to my Wireless router.
My hope is that if there is enough of us "users of OpenMeetings", we can
identify issues, check with each other to see if the others can also
create the same issue, thus confirm the problem is not just with our own
environment, and be able to report an issue in a way that the developers
can more easily identify and fix. I am sure that they have limited time
to which the can contribute to OpenMeetings so if we can identify
repeatable issues and rule out any personal environmental problems, it
should help in reducing the reporting of problems which are not due to
OpenMeetings itself.
So my request for Dan, Sergey, Stephen and others is, "when I report an
issue or a suggestion, please, when you have time, check my statements
in your own OpenMeetings environements and see if what I say is correct
or a worthwhile suggestion and then report back. Especially if I make a
suggestion for an improvement for something that I would like but it
does not make sense to you, or even better, you see an even more
effective way the improvement can be implemented (e.g. let's do some
brain storming). Sometimes the most simplest of ideas are the greatest.
For example, "one tool that OpenMeetings whiteboad does not currently
have is a highlighter, like the highlighter pens".
Thanks,
George Kirkham
From: aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com [mailto:aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com]
On Behalf Of Daniel Ascher
Sent: Friday, 11 May 2012 2:29 AM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: exclusive audio in Build #68
I would like to thank everyone who is working so hard on this project. I
am not an engineer so I can't contribute any coding. But if there is
anything I can do to further this effort, please let me know!
Dan Ascher
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Alexei Fedotov
<al...@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm really happy seeing new faces (George, Sergey, Stephen) around with
thoughtful and skillful posts - Openmeetings needs you, guys, for a
strong community. The strong community is mandatory for us to leave
incubation and become an full-scale Apache project.
Thank you.
--
Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
President
A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
"Creating Bright Futures"
505 York Road, Suite 6
Jenkintown, PA 19046
Office: 215.886.9188
Direct: 267.242.9640
www.aplustutoring.com <http://www.aplustutoring.com/>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de>
http://www.webbase-design.de <http://www.webbase-design.de>
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com <http://www.wagner-sebastian.com>
seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
Re: Request for improvement - Square and Ellipse default to no fill colour
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
Hi George,
I would propose to store settings like: Default fill color, default line
color, default transparency and default line size in the user profile or
cookie data. That way the default settings are just like the ones you have
choosen the last time.
Sebastian
2012/5/11 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
> Hi,****
>
> ** **
>
> I would like to know your views on having the Square and Ellipse tools
> default to “no fill colour”.****
>
> ** **
>
> I find that myself and others want to circle words or images in
> presentations, and keep forgetting to turn off the fill colour. Since I
> have never bothered to use the fill colour, my suggestion is to have the
> fill colour turned off by default, and then people have to enable and
> select a colour, to have the Square or Ellipse filled with a colour.****
>
> ** **
>
> If it is found that there are those who want the fill colour enabled by
> default and another group who want it disabled by default, then could the
> default be a configuration option, e.g. FillDefault 0 = a default is no
> fill colour, 1 = the default is to have a fill colour.****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,****
>
> ** **
>
> George Kirkham****
>
> ** **
>
> IT Manager****
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) ****
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia****
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600****
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181****
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au, ****
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com [mailto:aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Daniel Ascher
> *Sent:* Friday, 11 May 2012 9:57 AM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Request for improvement****
>
> ** **
>
> Is this only in OM 2.0, because I don't see this in the prior version?
>
> Dan****
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 7:37 PM, George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
> wrote:****
>
> Sebastian,****
>
> ****
>
> I have noticed that when a person joins a room, any video windows from
> other users who are already in the room load up over the top of their
> “Choose Devices” Window. This makes it difficult for them to select
> settings (until they move all of the video Windows out of the way). It
> would be much better if the “Choose Devices” Window could be the top most
> (i.e. above/on top the Video Windows).****
>
> ****
>
> Users who are not intimately familiar with OpenMeetings get confused
> because they don’t see the “Choose Devices” dialog.****
>
> ****
>
> Thanks,****
>
> ****
>
> George Kirkham****
>
> ****
>
> IT Manager****
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) ****
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia****
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600****
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181****
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au, ****
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> *From:* George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
> *Sent:* Friday, 11 May 2012 7:31 AM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* But if there is anything I can do to further this effort,
> please let me know!****
>
> ****
>
> Dan, Sergey, Stephen, (and to myself),****
>
> ****
>
> Do you have an environment where you can test the stability/reliability of
> OpenMeetings. For example where several or more people can use
> OpenMeetings and report on any issues, and the try to repeat the same issue
> on another day.****
>
> ****
>
> A clear, methodical approach to observing, and then identifying how to
> repeat issues really help developers. It is even better if you can match
> the issue with entries in the log files.****
>
> ****
>
> While my OpenMeetings installation has been very good most of the time,
> there are instances where some of my “test” users in conference rooms have
> become unstable, but so far I have not had the time to be able to repeat
> the issue frequently enough to identify why (or to match the problem
> occurrences with an entries in the red5/log/*.log). These issues have not
> been too serious, closing the browser and logging back in to the room fixes
> most, on a few occasions I have had to reboot my PC. I have also observed
> more issues when the PC is wirelessly connect (wireless LAN), which could
> be related to my Wireless router.****
>
> ****
>
> My hope is that if there is enough of us “users of OpenMeetings”, we can
> identify issues, check with each other to see if the others can also create
> the same issue, thus confirm the problem is not just with our own
> environment, and be able to report an issue in a way that the developers
> can more easily identify and fix. I am sure that they have limited time to
> which the can contribute to OpenMeetings so if we can identify repeatable
> issues and rule out any personal environmental problems, it should help in
> reducing the reporting of problems which are not due to OpenMeetings itself.
> ****
>
> ****
>
> So my request for Dan, Sergey, Stephen and others is, “when I report an
> issue or a suggestion, please, when you have time, check my statements in
> your own OpenMeetings environements and see if what I say is correct or a
> worthwhile suggestion and then report back. Especially if I make a
> suggestion for an improvement for something that I would like but it does
> not make sense to you, or even better, you see an even more effective way
> the improvement can be implemented (e.g. let’s do some brain storming).
> Sometimes the most simplest of ideas are the greatest. For example, “one
> tool that OpenMeetings whiteboad does not currently have is a highlighter,
> like the highlighter pens”. ****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> Thanks,****
>
> ****
>
> George Kirkham****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> *From:* aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com [mailto:aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com<ap...@aplustutoring.com>]
> *On Behalf Of *Daniel Ascher
> *Sent:* Friday, 11 May 2012 2:29 AM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: exclusive audio in Build #68****
>
> ****
>
> I would like to thank everyone who is working so hard on this project. I
> am not an engineer so I can't contribute any coding. But if there is
> anything I can do to further this effort, please let me know!
>
> Dan Ascher****
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
> wrote:****
>
> I'm really happy seeing new faces (George, Sergey, Stephen) around
> with thoughtful and skillful posts - Openmeetings needs you, guys, for a
> strong community. The strong community is mandatory for us to leave
> incubation and become an full-scale Apache project.****
>
> ****
>
> Thank you.****
>
>
>
>
> --
> Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
> President
> A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
> "Creating Bright Futures"
>
> 505 York Road, Suite 6
> Jenkintown, PA 19046
> Office: 215.886.9188
> Direct: 267.242.9640
> www.aplustutoring.com****
>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
http://www.openmeetings.de
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
seba.wagner@gmail.com
Request for improvement - Square and Ellipse default to no fill colour
Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Hi,
I would like to know your views on having the Square and Ellipse tools
default to "no fill colour".
I find that myself and others want to circle words or images in
presentations, and keep forgetting to turn off the fill colour. Since I
have never bothered to use the fill colour, my suggestion is to have the
fill colour turned off by default, and then people have to enable and
select a colour, to have the Square or Ellipse filled with a colour.
If it is found that there are those who want the fill colour enabled by
default and another group who want it disabled by default, then could
the default be a configuration option, e.g. FillDefault 0 = a default is
no fill colour, 1 = the default is to have a fill colour.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
W: www.co2crc.com.au
From: aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com [mailto:aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com]
On Behalf Of Daniel Ascher
Sent: Friday, 11 May 2012 9:57 AM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Request for improvement
Is this only in OM 2.0, because I don't see this in the prior version?
Dan
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 7:37 PM, George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
wrote:
Sebastian,
I have noticed that when a person joins a room, any video windows from
other users who are already in the room load up over the top of their
"Choose Devices" Window. This makes it difficult for them to select
settings (until they move all of the video Windows out of the way). It
would be much better if the "Choose Devices" Window could be the top
most (i.e. above/on top the Video Windows).
Users who are not intimately familiar with OpenMeetings get confused
because they don't see the "Choose Devices" dialog.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
W: www.co2crc.com.au
From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
Sent: Friday, 11 May 2012 7:31 AM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: But if there is anything I can do to further this effort,
please let me know!
Dan, Sergey, Stephen, (and to myself),
Do you have an environment where you can test the stability/reliability
of OpenMeetings. For example where several or more people can use
OpenMeetings and report on any issues, and the try to repeat the same
issue on another day.
A clear, methodical approach to observing, and then identifying how to
repeat issues really help developers. It is even better if you can
match the issue with entries in the log files.
While my OpenMeetings installation has been very good most of the time,
there are instances where some of my "test" users in conference rooms
have become unstable, but so far I have not had the time to be able to
repeat the issue frequently enough to identify why (or to match the
problem occurrences with an entries in the red5/log/*.log). These
issues have not been too serious, closing the browser and logging back
in to the room fixes most, on a few occasions I have had to reboot my
PC. I have also observed more issues when the PC is wirelessly connect
(wireless LAN), which could be related to my Wireless router.
My hope is that if there is enough of us "users of OpenMeetings", we can
identify issues, check with each other to see if the others can also
create the same issue, thus confirm the problem is not just with our own
environment, and be able to report an issue in a way that the developers
can more easily identify and fix. I am sure that they have limited time
to which the can contribute to OpenMeetings so if we can identify
repeatable issues and rule out any personal environmental problems, it
should help in reducing the reporting of problems which are not due to
OpenMeetings itself.
So my request for Dan, Sergey, Stephen and others is, "when I report an
issue or a suggestion, please, when you have time, check my statements
in your own OpenMeetings environements and see if what I say is correct
or a worthwhile suggestion and then report back. Especially if I make a
suggestion for an improvement for something that I would like but it
does not make sense to you, or even better, you see an even more
effective way the improvement can be implemented (e.g. let's do some
brain storming). Sometimes the most simplest of ideas are the greatest.
For example, "one tool that OpenMeetings whiteboad does not currently
have is a highlighter, like the highlighter pens".
Thanks,
George Kirkham
From: aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com [mailto:aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com]
On Behalf Of Daniel Ascher
Sent: Friday, 11 May 2012 2:29 AM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: exclusive audio in Build #68
I would like to thank everyone who is working so hard on this project. I
am not an engineer so I can't contribute any coding. But if there is
anything I can do to further this effort, please let me know!
Dan Ascher
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Alexei Fedotov
<al...@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm really happy seeing new faces (George, Sergey, Stephen) around with
thoughtful and skillful posts - Openmeetings needs you, guys, for a
strong community. The strong community is mandatory for us to leave
incubation and become an full-scale Apache project.
Thank you.
--
Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
President
A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
"Creating Bright Futures"
505 York Road, Suite 6
Jenkintown, PA 19046
Office: 215.886.9188
Direct: 267.242.9640
www.aplustutoring.com <http://www.aplustutoring.com/>
Re: Request for improvement
Posted by Daniel Ascher <da...@aplustutoring.com>.
Is this only in OM 2.0, because I don't see this in the prior version?
Dan
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 7:37 PM, George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>wrote:
> Sebastian,****
>
> ** **
>
> I have noticed that when a person joins a room, any video windows from
> other users who are already in the room load up over the top of their
> “Choose Devices” Window. This makes it difficult for them to select
> settings (until they move all of the video Windows out of the way). It
> would be much better if the “Choose Devices” Window could be the top most
> (i.e. above/on top the Video Windows).****
>
> ** **
>
> Users who are not intimately familiar with OpenMeetings get confused
> because they don’t see the “Choose Devices” dialog.****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,****
>
> ** **
>
> George Kirkham****
>
> ** **
>
> IT Manager****
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) ****
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia****
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600****
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181****
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au, ****
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
> *Sent:* Friday, 11 May 2012 7:31 AM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* But if there is anything I can do to further this effort,
> please let me know!****
>
> ** **
>
> Dan, Sergey, Stephen, (and to myself),****
>
> ** **
>
> Do you have an environment where you can test the stability/reliability of
> OpenMeetings. For example where several or more people can use
> OpenMeetings and report on any issues, and the try to repeat the same issue
> on another day.****
>
> ** **
>
> A clear, methodical approach to observing, and then identifying how to
> repeat issues really help developers. It is even better if you can match
> the issue with entries in the log files.****
>
> ** **
>
> While my OpenMeetings installation has been very good most of the time,
> there are instances where some of my “test” users in conference rooms have
> become unstable, but so far I have not had the time to be able to repeat
> the issue frequently enough to identify why (or to match the problem
> occurrences with an entries in the red5/log/*.log). These issues have not
> been too serious, closing the browser and logging back in to the room fixes
> most, on a few occasions I have had to reboot my PC. I have also observed
> more issues when the PC is wirelessly connect (wireless LAN), which could
> be related to my Wireless router.****
>
> ** **
>
> My hope is that if there is enough of us “users of OpenMeetings”, we can
> identify issues, check with each other to see if the others can also create
> the same issue, thus confirm the problem is not just with our own
> environment, and be able to report an issue in a way that the developers
> can more easily identify and fix. I am sure that they have limited time to
> which the can contribute to OpenMeetings so if we can identify repeatable
> issues and rule out any personal environmental problems, it should help in
> reducing the reporting of problems which are not due to OpenMeetings itself.
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> So my request for Dan, Sergey, Stephen and others is, “when I report an
> issue or a suggestion, please, when you have time, check my statements in
> your own OpenMeetings environements and see if what I say is correct or a
> worthwhile suggestion and then report back. Especially if I make a
> suggestion for an improvement for something that I would like but it does
> not make sense to you, or even better, you see an even more effective way
> the improvement can be implemented (e.g. let’s do some brain storming).
> Sometimes the most simplest of ideas are the greatest. For example, “one
> tool that OpenMeetings whiteboad does not currently have is a highlighter,
> like the highlighter pens”. ****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,****
>
> ** **
>
> George Kirkham****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com [mailto:aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com<ap...@aplustutoring.com>]
> *On Behalf Of *Daniel Ascher
> *Sent:* Friday, 11 May 2012 2:29 AM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: exclusive audio in Build #68****
>
> ** **
>
> I would like to thank everyone who is working so hard on this project. I
> am not an engineer so I can't contribute any coding. But if there is
> anything I can do to further this effort, please let me know!
>
> Dan Ascher****
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
> wrote:****
>
> I'm really happy seeing new faces (George, Sergey, Stephen) around
> with thoughtful and skillful posts - Openmeetings needs you, guys, for a
> strong community. The strong community is mandatory for us to leave
> incubation and become an full-scale Apache project.****
>
> ** **
>
> Thank you.****
>
--
Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
President
A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
"Creating Bright Futures"
505 York Road, Suite 6
Jenkintown, PA 19046
Office: 215.886.9188
Direct: 267.242.9640
www.aplustutoring.com
Request for improvement
Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Sebastian,
I have noticed that when a person joins a room, any video windows from
other users who are already in the room load up over the top of their
"Choose Devices" Window. This makes it difficult for them to select
settings (until they move all of the video Windows out of the way). It
would be much better if the "Choose Devices" Window could be the top
most (i.e. above/on top the Video Windows).
Users who are not intimately familiar with OpenMeetings get confused
because they don't see the "Choose Devices" dialog.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
W: www.co2crc.com.au
From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
Sent: Friday, 11 May 2012 7:31 AM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: But if there is anything I can do to further this effort,
please let me know!
Dan, Sergey, Stephen, (and to myself),
Do you have an environment where you can test the stability/reliability
of OpenMeetings. For example where several or more people can use
OpenMeetings and report on any issues, and the try to repeat the same
issue on another day.
A clear, methodical approach to observing, and then identifying how to
repeat issues really help developers. It is even better if you can
match the issue with entries in the log files.
While my OpenMeetings installation has been very good most of the time,
there are instances where some of my "test" users in conference rooms
have become unstable, but so far I have not had the time to be able to
repeat the issue frequently enough to identify why (or to match the
problem occurrences with an entries in the red5/log/*.log). These
issues have not been too serious, closing the browser and logging back
in to the room fixes most, on a few occasions I have had to reboot my
PC. I have also observed more issues when the PC is wirelessly connect
(wireless LAN), which could be related to my Wireless router.
My hope is that if there is enough of us "users of OpenMeetings", we can
identify issues, check with each other to see if the others can also
create the same issue, thus confirm the problem is not just with our own
environment, and be able to report an issue in a way that the developers
can more easily identify and fix. I am sure that they have limited time
to which the can contribute to OpenMeetings so if we can identify
repeatable issues and rule out any personal environmental problems, it
should help in reducing the reporting of problems which are not due to
OpenMeetings itself.
So my request for Dan, Sergey, Stephen and others is, "when I report an
issue or a suggestion, please, when you have time, check my statements
in your own OpenMeetings environements and see if what I say is correct
or a worthwhile suggestion and then report back. Especially if I make a
suggestion for an improvement for something that I would like but it
does not make sense to you, or even better, you see an even more
effective way the improvement can be implemented (e.g. let's do some
brain storming). Sometimes the most simplest of ideas are the greatest.
For example, "one tool that OpenMeetings whiteboad does not currently
have is a highlighter, like the highlighter pens".
Thanks,
George Kirkham
From: aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com [mailto:aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com]
On Behalf Of Daniel Ascher
Sent: Friday, 11 May 2012 2:29 AM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: exclusive audio in Build #68
I would like to thank everyone who is working so hard on this project. I
am not an engineer so I can't contribute any coding. But if there is
anything I can do to further this effort, please let me know!
Dan Ascher
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Alexei Fedotov
<al...@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm really happy seeing new faces (George, Sergey, Stephen) around with
thoughtful and skillful posts - Openmeetings needs you, guys, for a
strong community. The strong community is mandatory for us to leave
incubation and become an full-scale Apache project.
Thank you.
But if there is anything I can do to further this effort, please let me know!
Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Dan, Sergey, Stephen, (and to myself),
Do you have an environment where you can test the stability/reliability
of OpenMeetings. For example where several or more people can use
OpenMeetings and report on any issues, and the try to repeat the same
issue on another day.
A clear, methodical approach to observing, and then identifying how to
repeat issues really help developers. It is even better if you can
match the issue with entries in the log files.
While my OpenMeetings installation has been very good most of the time,
there are instances where some of my "test" users in conference rooms
have become unstable, but so far I have not had the time to be able to
repeat the issue frequently enough to identify why (or to match the
problem occurrences with an entries in the red5/log/*.log). These
issues have not been too serious, closing the browser and logging back
in to the room fixes most, on a few occasions I have had to reboot my
PC. I have also observed more issues when the PC is wirelessly connect
(wireless LAN), which could be related to my Wireless router.
My hope is that if there is enough of us "users of OpenMeetings", we can
identify issues, check with each other to see if the others can also
create the same issue, thus confirm the problem is not just with our own
environment, and be able to report an issue in a way that the developers
can more easily identify and fix. I am sure that they have limited time
to which the can contribute to OpenMeetings so if we can identify
repeatable issues and rule out any personal environmental problems, it
should help in reducing the reporting of problems which are not due to
OpenMeetings itself.
So my request for Dan, Sergey, Stephen and others is, "when I report an
issue or a suggestion, please, when you have time, check my statements
in your own OpenMeetings environements and see if what I say is correct
or a worthwhile suggestion and then report back. Especially if I make a
suggestion for an improvement for something that I would like but it
does not make sense to you, or even better, you see an even more
effective way the improvement can be implemented (e.g. let's do some
brain storming). Sometimes the most simplest of ideas are the greatest.
For example, "one tool that OpenMeetings whiteboad does not currently
have is a highlighter, like the highlighter pens".
Thanks,
George Kirkham
From: aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com [mailto:aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com]
On Behalf Of Daniel Ascher
Sent: Friday, 11 May 2012 2:29 AM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: exclusive audio in Build #68
I would like to thank everyone who is working so hard on this project. I
am not an engineer so I can't contribute any coding. But if there is
anything I can do to further this effort, please let me know!
Dan Ascher
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Alexei Fedotov
<al...@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm really happy seeing new faces (George, Sergey, Stephen) around with
thoughtful and skillful posts - Openmeetings needs you, guys, for a
strong community. The strong community is mandatory for us to leave
incubation and become an full-scale Apache project.
Thank you.
Re: exclusive audio in Build #68
Posted by Daniel Ascher <da...@aplustutoring.com>.
Thanks Alexei. I am very excited about using OpenMeetings. I think this
platform has a lot of potential!
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Alexei Fedotov
<al...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Daniel,
> that's a great asset for community that you dedicate your time using
> Openmeetings and keep good questions coming. Thanks.
>
>
> --
> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> http://dataved.ru/
> +7 916 562 8095
>
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Daniel Ascher <da...@aplustutoring.com>
> wrote:
> > I would like to thank everyone who is working so hard on this project. I
> am
> > not an engineer so I can't contribute any coding. But if there is
> anything I
> > can do to further this effort, please let me know!
> >
> > Dan Ascher
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Alexei Fedotov <
> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm really happy seeing new faces (George, Sergey, Stephen) around
> >> with thoughtful and skillful posts - Openmeetings needs you, guys, for a
> >> strong community. The strong community is mandatory for us to leave
> >> incubation and become an full-scale Apache project.
> >>
> >> Thank you.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:01 AM, George Kirkham <gkirkham@co2crc.com.au
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi, I am testing the functionality in build #68
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> These I believe are issues, please check and comment.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Test scenario, one moderator, two other participants (one with Audio &
> >>> Video and one with Audio only) then join the meeting. A forth
> participant
> >>> joins the meeting
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 1) When the moderator hovers over the red disable icon of the
> >>> "Allow/Deny right to give exclusive audio" column for either of the two
> >>> other participants, the text that hovers is "Allow user to give
> exclusive
> >>> audio", but after they have been granted rights to give exclusive
> audio, if
> >>> you hover over the green circled tick, then the text says "User is
> >>> Moderator, he can do anything.", where as it would be more correct if
> the
> >>> hover text said "Remove ability to give exclusive audio", like the
> "Remove
> >>> ability to draw on the whiteboard". The "Allow/Deny right to Remote
> Control
> >>> Screen" ticks also has the same issue (they display "User is
> Moderator, he
> >>> can do anything."). In fact in this scenario the statement "User is
> >>> Moderator, he can do anything." is incorrect as this user is not a
> >>> moderator.
> >>>
> >>> 2) I would have expected that giving users the "Allow user to give
> >>> exclusive audio" would allow users to control the who currently has
> >>> exclusive audio (i.e. whose mic is not muted), but the users cannot
> control
> >>> the use of "exclusive audio" (unless they are made moderators).
> >>>
> >>> 3) It seems the only way to give exclusive audio is by clicking
> the
> >>> centre of that persons video window, but if a person is set to "Audio
> >>> only", then they don't have a video window so there is no way to grant
> them
> >>> "exclusive audio". Would it not be better to have a way to control
> >>> exclusive audio from the "Users" list? Why not use the round green
> (user
> >>> speaks) icon. (see point 5 where it was found that the fourth user to
> the
> >>> meeting did get a third, video like window where they could control the
> >>> "exclusive audio" for the person who was set to "audio only". But
> these
> >>> windows did not appear for the moderator or the other two who were the
> first
> >>> to join.
> >>>
> >>> 4) In the "Users" list there is a round green icon like the green
> >>> icon that appears in the Video window, but unlike the video window, it
> does
> >>> not change to solid green when the user is speaking, I believe it is
> >>> supposed to? If it is not, then what does it do? The hover text says
> "User
> >>> speaks".
> >>>
> >>> 5) when a fourth user joined the meeting (with no audio/video),
> they
> >>> had two video windows (moderator and the one user who was sending
> video) and
> >>> one other window like a video window but without any picture as the
> name
> >>> label of that window indicated that it was the other user who was
> sending
> >>> audio only. This fourth user, when made a moderator could control who
> had
> >>> "exclusive audio", but only when a moderator. The other three users
> still
> >>> had no way to give the "audio only" user, "exclusive audio".
> >>>
> >>> 6) I did a few audio tests to see how much echo was an issue, and
> I
> >>> am amazed, I had no echo. I will try to test this again, another day.
> >>> Thanks to those who have been working on OpenMeetings.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> George Kirkham
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> IT Manager
> >>>
> >>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
> >>>
> >>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
> >>>
> >>> T: (02) 6120 1600
> >>>
> >>> F: (02) 6273 7181
> >>>
> >>> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
> >>>
> >>> W: www.co2crc.com.au
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: brian mullan [mailto:bmullan.mail@gmail.com]
> >>> Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2012 8:53 AM
> >>> To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> >>> Subject: Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sergey
> >>>
> >>> I think you meant to say if you run service on port =< 1024 you need
> root
> >>> privilages
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Sergey Kobzar <
> sergey.kobzar@itcraft.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Linux to run service on port >1024 you need root privileges.
> Non-root
> >>> users can run services on ports >1024.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.staldal.nu/tech/2007/10/31/why-can-only-root-listen-to-ports-below-1024/
> >>> for example...
> >>>
> >>> On 05/09/12 02:25, George Kirkham wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Mahmut,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for your comments, the configuration that I am using is below,
> >>> are these settings the same or similar to how you run OpenMeetings or
> >>> port 80 ? If you don't mind sharing, what is your server's OS?, and
> what
> >>> would be your configuration settings that gets OpenMeetings to run on
> >>> port 80 instead of port 5080 ? Maybe there are other areas that I need
> >>> to modify other that the two that I am currently changing.
> >>>
> >>> /etc/init.d/red5
> >>>
> >>> start-stop-daemon --start -c nobody --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir
> >>> $RED5_HOME --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null
> >>> 2>/dev/null &
> >>>
> >>> /usr/lib/red5/conf/red5.properties
> >>>
> >>> # HTTP
> >>>
> >>> http.host=0.0.0.0
> >>>
> >>> http.port=80
> >>>
> >>> https.port=8443
> >>>
> >>> http.URIEncoding=UTF-8
> >>>
> >>> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/config.xml
> >>>
> >>> <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
> >>>
> >>> I run OpenMeetings using http://mydomain.com.au/ and it will redirect
> to
> >>> http://mydomain.com.au/openmeetings but then there is no response from
> >>> the server.
> >>>
> >>> I am getting no error information from the log files.
> >>>
> >>> When I do netstat -anp | grep java
> >>>
> >>> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 4044/soffice.bin
> >>>
> >>> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 22175 4044/soffice.bin
> >>> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb
> >>>
> >>> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 4051/java
> >>>
> >>> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 4051/java
> >>>
> >>> However when I run as root user, then all works, see below for "netstat
> >>> -anp | grep java"
> >>>
> >>> /etc/init.d/red5
> >>>
> >>> start-stop-daemon --start -c root --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir $RED5_HOME
> >>> --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null 2>/dev/null &
> >>>
> >>> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3880/soffice.bin
> >>>
> >>> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 21314 3880/soffice.bin
> >>> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb
> >>>
> >>> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
> >>>
> >>> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
> >>>
> >>> tcp6 0 0 :::8080 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
> >>>
> >>> tcp6 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
> >>>
> >>> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57440 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java
> >>>
> >>> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57443 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java
> >>>
> >>> unix 2 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 21818 3887/java
> >>>
> >>> If I
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> George Kirkham
> >>>
> >>> IT Manager
> >>>
> >>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
> >>>
> >>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
> >>>
> >>> T: (02) 6120 1600
> >>>
> >>> F: (02) 6273 7181
> >>>
> >>> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
> >>>
> >>> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
> >>>
> >>> *From:*Mahmut TEKER [mailto:teker.mahmut@gmail.com]
> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 9 May 2012 8:49 AM
> >>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> >>> *Subject:* Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
> >>>
> >>> Hi George,
> >>>
> >>> I am using OM on port 80 and there is no problem. In fact I could not
> >>> understand your problem clearly. Can you post error messages or
> warnings
> >>> in the logs. That would make the issue clearer, I think.
> >>>
> >>> Moreover, there is an issue that, as I remember right, running
> >>> red5/openmeetings on a port below or equal 1200 requires to be root.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _Mahmut TEKER
> >>>
> >>> On 5/9/2012 12:23 AM, George Kirkham wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Stephen,
> >>>
> >>> The server is only for OpenMeetings, so no Apache running (or
> >>> installed), and nothing else on that port.
> >>>
> >>> I did find the difference, in my first server I was running
> openMeetings
> >>> as the root user, but with subsequent servers I had been using nobody.
> >>> Running OpenMeetings under nobody works well for port 5080, but not for
> >>> port 80, and I cannot understand why that might be.
> >>>
> >>> One thing I could try is to create a full account called "openmeetings"
> >>> which has a home directory and then try running OpenMeetings under this
> >>> account. Sometimes software requires an account with a home directory,
> >>> not just a dummy account.
> >>>
> >>> I believe the issue is related with OpenMeetings code somewhere, as the
> >>> Red5 server is running and accepting connections (root), just when you
> >>> try to run OpenMeetings itself, that fails.
> >>>
> >>> If I get success at any time, I will post back, but first I wanted to
> >>> learn if anyone was familiar with the issue, and it looks like everyone
> >>> else has their OpenMeetings servers either using port 5080 or are
> >>> successfully running under 'nobody'.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> George Kirkham
> >>>
> >>> IT Manager
> >>>
> >>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
> >>>
> >>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
> >>>
> >>> T: (02) 6120 1600
> >>>
> >>> F: (02) 6273 7181
> >>>
> >>> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
> >>>
> >>> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
> >>>
> >>> *From:*Stephen Cottham [mailto:Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au]
> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:34 PM
> >>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> >>> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> >>> *Subject:* RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
> >>>
> >>> You aren't using Apache on the new Debian server are you?
> >>>
> >>> If Apache is running on port 80 then they will conflict.
> >>>
> >>> To aid in finding the problem, If you go here
> >>>
> >>> /usr/lib/red5
> >>>
> >>> Then chmod 755 red5-debug.sh
> >>>
> >>> Then start it using the debug mode
> >>>
> >>> ./red5-debug.sh
> >>>
> >>> This will tell you more about why its failing to start.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>>
> >>> *Stephen Cottham**
> >>> *Group IT Manager (Associate)
> >>>
> >>> Robert Bird Group
> >>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
> >>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
> >>>
> >>> *Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)*
> >>>
> >>> *Phone: +44207 592 8000 (UK)*
> >>>
> >>> *Fax: +6173 319 2799*
> >>>
> >>> *Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)*
> >>>
> >>> *Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)*
> >>>
> >>> *Web: **www.robertbird.com* <http://www.robertbird.com/>
> >>>
> >>> <http://www.robertbird.com.au/>
> >>>
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> entity
> >>> to whom they are addressed. If you are not an intended recipient,
> please
> >>> contact us immediately by return email and then delete both messages.
> >>> You may not otherwise read, forward, copy, use or disclose this email
> or
> >>> any attachments. Any views expressed in this email are those of the
> >>> individual sender except where the sender expressly, and with
> authority,
> >>> states otherwise. It is your responsibility to check any attachments
> for
> >>> viruses or defects before opening or sending them on. None of the
> sender
> >>> or its related entities accepts any liability for any consequential
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> >>>
> >>> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 1:24 PM
> >>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> >>> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> >>> *Subject:* <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Has anyone had success/issues with using port 80 instead of port 5080.
> >>>
> >>> I have a number of Debian OpenMeetings servers. The first that I built
> I
> >>> have configured using port 80 instead of port 5080, and all works well.
> >>>
> >>> Since that time I have built a few more Debian OpenMeetings servers and
> >>> I cannot get any of them to work with port 80. I really do not think
> the
> >>> issue is with OpenMeetings or its configuration, because I can copy the
> >>> entire "red5" folder from the new servers to the first (working) server
> >>> and it will work on port 80.
> >>>
> >>> I am hoping that someone may have had similar issues and knows how to
> >>> resolved it.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> George Kirkham
> >>>
> >>> IT Manager
> >>>
> >>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
> >>>
> >>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
> >>>
> >>> T: (02) 6120 1600
> >>>
> >>> F: (02) 6273 7181
> >>>
> >>> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
> >>>
> >>> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
> >>>
> >>> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
> >>> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 9:19 PM
> >>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> >>> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> >>> *Subject:* RE: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
> >>>
> >>> Thanks, Sebastian for your comments. It is good to know.
> >>>
> >>> George Kirkham
> >>>
> >>> *From:*seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
> >>> [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
> >>> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 5:23 PM
> >>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> >>> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> >>> *Subject:* Re: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
> >>>
> >>> Hi George,
> >>>
> >>> What is it that I should add to all the other language files?
> >>> => It makes it more easy to give a complete (but not fully translated)
> >>> file to translators. Lots of people tend to just download the
> >>> language-xml file and translate that. If those files are all incomplete
> >>> or certain labels are missing that this is just too confusing.
> >>>
> >>> The same English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other
> >>> languages
> >>> modify for the languages that they are proficient in?
> >>> => Yes you can fill them up in English and hope that some translators
> >>> will look into that file. Of course it might take months or even years
> >>> until really all languages are filled up. You could also use
> >>> translate.google.com <http://translate.google.com> and look for a
> >>> translation.
> >>>
> >>> Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to follow,
> >>> if so, please let me know.
> >>> => If you edit the XML files please don't add linebreaks (some editors
> >>> do that automatically), if you want to include a "save" linebreak you
> >>> would actually enter something like this:
> >>>
> >>> <br/>
> >>>
> >>> (this is XML encoded HTML linebreak "<br/>")
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sebastian
> >>>
> >>> 2012/5/6 George Kirkham <gkirkham@co2crc.com.au
> >>> <ma...@co2crc.com.au>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language files
> >>> ?
> >>>
> >>> I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common
> >>> (undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You can
> >>> fill up other language files the english one. However all language
> files
> >>> should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset."
> >>>
> >>> What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same
> >>> English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
> >>> modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is there a way to
> >>> ask others to check and update any languages that they are proficient
> >>> in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to
> >>> follow, if so, please let me know.
> >>>
> >>> I noticed that the Japanese file has
> >>> <string id="262" name="salutation_miss">
> >>> <value>Ms.</value>
> >>> </string>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> George Kirkham
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Sebastian Wagner
> >>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
> >>> http://www.openmeetings.de
> >>> http://www.webbase-design.de
> >>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> >>> seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > President
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> >
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>
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Re: exclusive audio in Build #68
Posted by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>.
Daniel,
that's a great asset for community that you dedicate your time using
Openmeetings and keep good questions coming. Thanks.
--
With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
http://dataved.ru/
+7 916 562 8095
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Daniel Ascher <da...@aplustutoring.com> wrote:
> I would like to thank everyone who is working so hard on this project. I am
> not an engineer so I can't contribute any coding. But if there is anything I
> can do to further this effort, please let me know!
>
> Dan Ascher
>
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> I'm really happy seeing new faces (George, Sergey, Stephen) around
>> with thoughtful and skillful posts - Openmeetings needs you, guys, for a
>> strong community. The strong community is mandatory for us to leave
>> incubation and become an full-scale Apache project.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:01 AM, George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, I am testing the functionality in build #68
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> These I believe are issues, please check and comment.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Test scenario, one moderator, two other participants (one with Audio &
>>> Video and one with Audio only) then join the meeting. A forth participant
>>> joins the meeting
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1) When the moderator hovers over the red disable icon of the
>>> “Allow/Deny right to give exclusive audio” column for either of the two
>>> other participants, the text that hovers is “Allow user to give exclusive
>>> audio”, but after they have been granted rights to give exclusive audio, if
>>> you hover over the green circled tick, then the text says “User is
>>> Moderator, he can do anything.”, where as it would be more correct if the
>>> hover text said “Remove ability to give exclusive audio”, like the “Remove
>>> ability to draw on the whiteboard”. The “Allow/Deny right to Remote Control
>>> Screen” ticks also has the same issue (they display “User is Moderator, he
>>> can do anything.”). In fact in this scenario the statement “User is
>>> Moderator, he can do anything.” is incorrect as this user is not a
>>> moderator.
>>>
>>> 2) I would have expected that giving users the “Allow user to give
>>> exclusive audio” would allow users to control the who currently has
>>> exclusive audio (i.e. whose mic is not muted), but the users cannot control
>>> the use of “exclusive audio” (unless they are made moderators).
>>>
>>> 3) It seems the only way to give exclusive audio is by clicking the
>>> centre of that persons video window, but if a person is set to “Audio
>>> only”, then they don’t have a video window so there is no way to grant them
>>> “exclusive audio”. Would it not be better to have a way to control
>>> exclusive audio from the “Users” list? Why not use the round green (user
>>> speaks) icon. (see point 5 where it was found that the fourth user to the
>>> meeting did get a third, video like window where they could control the
>>> “exclusive audio” for the person who was set to “audio only”. But these
>>> windows did not appear for the moderator or the other two who were the first
>>> to join.
>>>
>>> 4) In the “Users” list there is a round green icon like the green
>>> icon that appears in the Video window, but unlike the video window, it does
>>> not change to solid green when the user is speaking, I believe it is
>>> supposed to? If it is not, then what does it do? The hover text says “User
>>> speaks”.
>>>
>>> 5) when a fourth user joined the meeting (with no audio/video), they
>>> had two video windows (moderator and the one user who was sending video) and
>>> one other window like a video window but without any picture as the name
>>> label of that window indicated that it was the other user who was sending
>>> audio only. This fourth user, when made a moderator could control who had
>>> “exclusive audio”, but only when a moderator. The other three users still
>>> had no way to give the “audio only” user, “exclusive audio”.
>>>
>>> 6) I did a few audio tests to see how much echo was an issue, and I
>>> am amazed, I had no echo. I will try to test this again, another day.
>>> Thanks to those who have been working on OpenMeetings.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> George Kirkham
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> IT Manager
>>>
>>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>>>
>>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>>>
>>> T: (02) 6120 1600
>>>
>>> F: (02) 6273 7181
>>>
>>> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
>>>
>>> W: www.co2crc.com.au
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: brian mullan [mailto:bmullan.mail@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2012 8:53 AM
>>> To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sergey
>>>
>>> I think you meant to say if you run service on port =< 1024 you need root
>>> privilages
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Sergey Kobzar <se...@itcraft.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Linux to run service on port >1024 you need root privileges. Non-root
>>> users can run services on ports >1024.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.staldal.nu/tech/2007/10/31/why-can-only-root-listen-to-ports-below-1024/
>>> for example...
>>>
>>> On 05/09/12 02:25, George Kirkham wrote:
>>>
>>> Mahmut,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your comments, the configuration that I am using is below,
>>> are these settings the same or similar to how you run OpenMeetings or
>>> port 80 ? If you don’t mind sharing, what is your server’s OS?, and what
>>> would be your configuration settings that gets OpenMeetings to run on
>>> port 80 instead of port 5080 ? Maybe there are other areas that I need
>>> to modify other that the two that I am currently changing.
>>>
>>> /etc/init.d/red5
>>>
>>> start-stop-daemon --start -c nobody --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir
>>> $RED5_HOME --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null
>>> 2>/dev/null &
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/red5/conf/red5.properties
>>>
>>> # HTTP
>>>
>>> http.host=0.0.0.0
>>>
>>> http.port=80
>>>
>>> https.port=8443
>>>
>>> http.URIEncoding=UTF-8
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/config.xml
>>>
>>> <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>>>
>>> I run OpenMeetings using http://mydomain.com.au/ and it will redirect to
>>> http://mydomain.com.au/openmeetings but then there is no response from
>>> the server.
>>>
>>> I am getting no error information from the log files.
>>>
>>> When I do netstat -anp | grep java
>>>
>>> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 4044/soffice.bin
>>>
>>> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 22175 4044/soffice.bin
>>> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb
>>>
>>> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 4051/java
>>>
>>> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 4051/java
>>>
>>> However when I run as root user, then all works, see below for “netstat
>>> -anp | grep java”
>>>
>>> /etc/init.d/red5
>>>
>>> start-stop-daemon --start -c root --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir $RED5_HOME
>>> --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null 2>/dev/null &
>>>
>>> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3880/soffice.bin
>>>
>>> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 21314 3880/soffice.bin
>>> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb
>>>
>>> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>>>
>>> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>>>
>>> tcp6 0 0 :::8080 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>>>
>>> tcp6 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>>>
>>> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57440 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java
>>>
>>> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57443 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java
>>>
>>> unix 2 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 21818 3887/java
>>>
>>> If I
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> George Kirkham
>>>
>>> IT Manager
>>>
>>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>>>
>>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>>>
>>> T: (02) 6120 1600
>>>
>>> F: (02) 6273 7181
>>>
>>> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
>>>
>>> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>>>
>>> *From:*Mahmut TEKER [mailto:teker.mahmut@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 9 May 2012 8:49 AM
>>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>>>
>>> Hi George,
>>>
>>> I am using OM on port 80 and there is no problem. In fact I could not
>>> understand your problem clearly. Can you post error messages or warnings
>>> in the logs. That would make the issue clearer, I think.
>>>
>>> Moreover, there is an issue that, as I remember right, running
>>> red5/openmeetings on a port below or equal 1200 requires to be root.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> _Mahmut TEKER
>>>
>>> On 5/9/2012 12:23 AM, George Kirkham wrote:
>>>
>>> Stephen,
>>>
>>> The server is only for OpenMeetings, so no Apache running (or
>>> installed), and nothing else on that port.
>>>
>>> I did find the difference, in my first server I was running openMeetings
>>> as the root user, but with subsequent servers I had been using nobody.
>>> Running OpenMeetings under nobody works well for port 5080, but not for
>>> port 80, and I cannot understand why that might be.
>>>
>>> One thing I could try is to create a full account called “openmeetings”
>>> which has a home directory and then try running OpenMeetings under this
>>> account. Sometimes software requires an account with a home directory,
>>> not just a dummy account.
>>>
>>> I believe the issue is related with OpenMeetings code somewhere, as the
>>> Red5 server is running and accepting connections (root), just when you
>>> try to run OpenMeetings itself, that fails.
>>>
>>> If I get success at any time, I will post back, but first I wanted to
>>> learn if anyone was familiar with the issue, and it looks like everyone
>>> else has their OpenMeetings servers either using port 5080 or are
>>> successfully running under ‘nobody’.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> George Kirkham
>>>
>>> IT Manager
>>>
>>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>>>
>>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>>>
>>> T: (02) 6120 1600
>>>
>>> F: (02) 6273 7181
>>>
>>> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
>>>
>>> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>>>
>>> *From:*Stephen Cottham [mailto:Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:34 PM
>>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>>> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
>>> *Subject:* RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>>>
>>> You aren’t using Apache on the new Debian server are you?
>>>
>>> If Apache is running on port 80 then they will conflict.
>>>
>>> To aid in finding the problem, If you go here
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/red5
>>>
>>> Then chmod 755 red5-debug.sh
>>>
>>> Then start it using the debug mode
>>>
>>> ./red5-debug.sh
>>>
>>> This will tell you more about why its failing to start.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> *Stephen Cottham**
>>> *Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>>
>>> Robert Bird Group
>>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
>>>
>>> *Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)*
>>>
>>> *Phone: +44207 592 8000 (UK)*
>>>
>>> *Fax: +6173 319 2799*
>>>
>>> *Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)*
>>>
>>> *Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)*
>>>
>>> *Web: **www.robertbird.com* <http://www.robertbird.com/>
>>>
>>> <http://www.robertbird.com.au/>
>>>
>>> This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain legally
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>>> contact us immediately by return email and then delete both messages.
>>> You may not otherwise read, forward, copy, use or disclose this email or
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>>>
>>> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 1:24 PM
>>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>>> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
>>> *Subject:* <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Has anyone had success/issues with using port 80 instead of port 5080.
>>>
>>> I have a number of Debian OpenMeetings servers. The first that I built I
>>> have configured using port 80 instead of port 5080, and all works well.
>>>
>>> Since that time I have built a few more Debian OpenMeetings servers and
>>> I cannot get any of them to work with port 80. I really do not think the
>>> issue is with OpenMeetings or its configuration, because I can copy the
>>> entire “red5” folder from the new servers to the first (working) server
>>> and it will work on port 80.
>>>
>>> I am hoping that someone may have had similar issues and knows how to
>>> resolved it.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> George Kirkham
>>>
>>> IT Manager
>>>
>>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>>>
>>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>>>
>>> T: (02) 6120 1600
>>>
>>> F: (02) 6273 7181
>>>
>>> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
>>>
>>> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>>>
>>> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
>>> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 9:19 PM
>>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>>> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
>>> *Subject:* RE: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
>>>
>>> Thanks, Sebastian for your comments. It is good to know.
>>>
>>> George Kirkham
>>>
>>> *From:*seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
>>> [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 5:23 PM
>>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>>> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
>>>
>>> Hi George,
>>>
>>> What is it that I should add to all the other language files?
>>> => It makes it more easy to give a complete (but not fully translated)
>>> file to translators. Lots of people tend to just download the
>>> language-xml file and translate that. If those files are all incomplete
>>> or certain labels are missing that this is just too confusing.
>>>
>>> The same English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other
>>> languages
>>> modify for the languages that they are proficient in?
>>> => Yes you can fill them up in English and hope that some translators
>>> will look into that file. Of course it might take months or even years
>>> until really all languages are filled up. You could also use
>>> translate.google.com <http://translate.google.com> and look for a
>>> translation.
>>>
>>> Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to follow,
>>> if so, please let me know.
>>> => If you edit the XML files please don't add linebreaks (some editors
>>> do that automatically), if you want to include a "save" linebreak you
>>> would actually enter something like this:
>>>
>>> <br/>
>>>
>>> (this is XML encoded HTML linebreak "<br/>")
>>>
>>>
>>> Sebastian
>>>
>>> 2012/5/6 George Kirkham <gkirkham@co2crc.com.au
>>> <ma...@co2crc.com.au>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language files
>>> ?
>>>
>>> I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common
>>> (undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You can
>>> fill up other language files the english one. However all language files
>>> should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset."
>>>
>>> What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same
>>> English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
>>> modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is there a way to
>>> ask others to check and update any languages that they are proficient
>>> in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to
>>> follow, if so, please let me know.
>>>
>>> I noticed that the Japanese file has
>>> <string id="262" name="salutation_miss">
>>> <value>Ms.</value>
>>> </string>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> George Kirkham
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
>>> http://www.openmeetings.de
>>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>>> seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Re: exclusive audio in Build #68
Posted by Daniel Ascher <da...@aplustutoring.com>.
I would like to thank everyone who is working so hard on this project. I am
not an engineer so I can't contribute any coding. But if there is anything
I can do to further this effort, please let me know!
Dan Ascher
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Alexei Fedotov
<al...@gmail.com>wrote:
> I'm really happy seeing new faces (George, Sergey, Stephen) around
> with thoughtful and skillful posts - Openmeetings needs you, guys, for a
> strong community. The strong community is mandatory for us to leave
> incubation and become an full-scale Apache project.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:01 AM, George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>wrote:
>
>> Hi, I am testing the functionality in build #68****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> These I believe are issues, please check and comment.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Test scenario, one moderator, two other participants (one with Audio &
>> Video and one with Audio only) then join the meeting. A forth participant
>> joins the meeting ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> **1) **When the moderator hovers over the red disable icon of the
>> “Allow/Deny right to give exclusive audio” column for either of the two
>> other participants, the text that hovers is “Allow user to give exclusive
>> audio”, but after they have been granted rights to give exclusive audio, if
>> you hover over the green circled tick, then the text says “User is
>> Moderator, he can do anything.”, where as it would be more correct if the
>> hover text said “Remove ability to give exclusive audio”, like the “Remove
>> ability to draw on the whiteboard”. The “Allow/Deny right to Remote
>> Control Screen” ticks also has the same issue (they display “User is
>> Moderator, he can do anything.”). In fact in this scenario the statement
>> “User is Moderator, he can do anything.” is incorrect as this user is not a
>> moderator.
>>
>> ****
>>
>> **2) **I would have expected that giving users the “Allow user to
>> give exclusive audio” would allow users to control the who currently has
>> exclusive audio (i.e. whose mic is not muted), but the users cannot control
>> the use of “exclusive audio” (unless they are made moderators).
>>
>> ****
>>
>> **3) **It seems the only way to give exclusive audio is by clicking
>> the centre of that persons video window, but if a person is set to “Audio
>> only”, then they don’t have a video window so there is no way to grant them
>> “exclusive audio”. Would it not be better to have a way to control
>> exclusive audio from the “Users” list? Why not use the round green (user
>> speaks) icon. (see point 5 where it was found that the fourth user to the
>> meeting did get a third, video like window where they could control the
>> “exclusive audio” for the person who was set to “audio only”. But these
>> windows did not appear for the moderator or the other two who were the
>> first to join.
>>
>> ****
>>
>> **4) **In the “Users” list there is a round green icon like the
>> green icon that appears in the Video window, but unlike the video window,
>> it does not change to solid green when the user is speaking, I believe it
>> is supposed to? If it is not, then what does it do? The hover text says
>> “User speaks”.
>>
>> ****
>>
>> **5) **when a fourth user joined the meeting (with no audio/video),
>> they had two video windows (moderator and the one user who was sending
>> video) and one other window like a video window but without any picture as
>> the name label of that window indicated that it was the other user who was
>> sending audio only. This fourth user, when made a moderator could control
>> who had “exclusive audio”, but only when a moderator. The other three users
>> still had no way to give the “audio only” user, “exclusive audio”.
>>
>> ****
>>
>> **6) **I did a few audio tests to see how much echo was an issue,
>> and I am amazed, I had no echo. I will try to test this again, another
>> day. Thanks to those who have been working on OpenMeetings.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Thanks,****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> George Kirkham****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> IT Manager****
>>
>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) ****
>>
>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia****
>>
>> T: (02) 6120 1600****
>>
>> F: (02) 6273 7181****
>>
>> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au, ****
>>
>> W: www.co2crc.com.au****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* brian mullan [mailto:bmullan.mail@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, 10 May 2012 8:53 AM
>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>> *Subject:* Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Sergey
>>
>> I think you meant to say if you run service on port *=< 1024* you need
>> root privilages
>>
>> ****
>>
>> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Sergey Kobzar <se...@itcraft.org>
>> wrote:****
>>
>> On Linux to run service on port >1024 you need root privileges. Non-root
>> users can run services on ports >1024.
>>
>>
>> http://www.staldal.nu/tech/2007/10/31/why-can-only-root-listen-to-ports-below-1024/for example...
>>
>> On 05/09/12 02:25, George Kirkham wrote:****
>>
>> Mahmut,
>>
>> Thanks for your comments, the configuration that I am using is below,
>> are these settings the same or similar to how you run OpenMeetings or
>> port 80 ? If you don’t mind sharing, what is your server’s OS?, and what
>> would be your configuration settings that gets OpenMeetings to run on
>> port 80 instead of port 5080 ? Maybe there are other areas that I need
>> to modify other that the two that I am currently changing.
>>
>> /etc/init.d/red5
>>
>> start-stop-daemon --start -c nobody --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir
>> $RED5_HOME --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null
>> 2>/dev/null &
>>
>> /usr/lib/red5/conf/red5.properties
>>
>> # HTTP
>>
>> http.host=0.0.0.0
>>
>> http.port=80
>>
>> https.port=8443
>>
>> http.URIEncoding=UTF-8
>>
>> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/config.xml
>>
>> <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>>
>> I run OpenMeetings using http://mydomain.com.au/ and it will redirect to
>> http://mydomain.com.au/openmeetings but then there is no response from
>> the server.
>>
>> I am getting no error information from the log files.
>>
>> When I do netstat -anp | grep java
>>
>> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 4044/soffice.bin
>>
>> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 22175 4044/soffice.bin
>> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb
>>
>> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 4051/java
>>
>> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 4051/java
>>
>> However when I run as root user, then all works, see below for “netstat
>> -anp | grep java”
>>
>> /etc/init.d/red5
>>
>> start-stop-daemon --start -c root --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir $RED5_HOME
>> --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null 2>/dev/null &
>>
>> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3880/soffice.bin
>>
>> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 21314 3880/soffice.bin
>> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb
>>
>> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>>
>> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>>
>> tcp6 0 0 :::8080 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>>
>> tcp6 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>>
>> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57440 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java
>>
>> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57443 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java
>>
>> unix 2 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 21818 3887/java
>>
>> If I
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> George Kirkham
>>
>> IT Manager
>>
>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>>
>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>>
>> T: (02) 6120 1600
>>
>> F: (02) 6273 7181
>>
>> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
>>
>> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>>
>> *From:*Mahmut TEKER [mailto:teker.mahmut@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 9 May 2012 8:49 AM
>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>> *Subject:* Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>>
>> Hi George,
>>
>> I am using OM on port 80 and there is no problem. In fact I could not
>> understand your problem clearly. Can you post error messages or warnings
>> in the logs. That would make the issue clearer, I think.
>>
>> Moreover, there is an issue that, as I remember right, running
>> red5/openmeetings on a port below or equal 1200 requires to be root.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> _Mahmut TEKER
>>
>> On 5/9/2012 12:23 AM, George Kirkham wrote:
>>
>> Stephen,
>>
>> The server is only for OpenMeetings, so no Apache running (or
>> installed), and nothing else on that port.
>>
>> I did find the difference, in my first server I was running openMeetings
>> as the root user, but with subsequent servers I had been using nobody.
>> Running OpenMeetings under nobody works well for port 5080, but not for
>> port 80, and I cannot understand why that might be.
>>
>> One thing I could try is to create a full account called “openmeetings”
>> which has a home directory and then try running OpenMeetings under this
>> account. Sometimes software requires an account with a home directory,
>> not just a dummy account.
>>
>> I believe the issue is related with OpenMeetings code somewhere, as the
>> Red5 server is running and accepting connections (root), just when you
>> try to run OpenMeetings itself, that fails.
>>
>> If I get success at any time, I will post back, but first I wanted to
>> learn if anyone was familiar with the issue, and it looks like everyone
>> else has their OpenMeetings servers either using port 5080 or are
>> successfully running under ‘nobody’.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> George Kirkham
>>
>> IT Manager
>>
>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>>
>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>>
>> T: (02) 6120 1600
>>
>> F: (02) 6273 7181
>>
>> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
>>
>> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>>
>> *From:*Stephen Cottham [mailto:Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:34 PM
>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
>> *Subject:* RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>>
>> You aren’t using Apache on the new Debian server are you?
>>
>> If Apache is running on port 80 then they will conflict.
>>
>> To aid in finding the problem, If you go here
>>
>> /usr/lib/red5
>>
>> Then chmod 755 red5-debug.sh
>>
>> Then start it using the debug mode
>>
>> ./red5-debug.sh
>>
>> This will tell you more about why its failing to start.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> *Stephen Cottham**
>> *Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>
>> Robert Bird Group
>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
>>
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>>
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>> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 1:24 PM
>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
>> *Subject:* <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Has anyone had success/issues with using port 80 instead of port 5080.
>>
>> I have a number of Debian OpenMeetings servers. The first that I built I
>> have configured using port 80 instead of port 5080, and all works well.
>>
>> Since that time I have built a few more Debian OpenMeetings servers and
>> I cannot get any of them to work with port 80. I really do not think the
>> issue is with OpenMeetings or its configuration, because I can copy the
>> entire “red5” folder from the new servers to the first (working) server
>> and it will work on port 80.
>>
>> I am hoping that someone may have had similar issues and knows how to
>> resolved it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> George Kirkham
>>
>> IT Manager
>>
>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>>
>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>>
>> T: (02) 6120 1600
>>
>> F: (02) 6273 7181
>>
>> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
>>
>> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>>
>> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
>> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 9:19 PM
>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
>> *Subject:* RE: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
>>
>> Thanks, Sebastian for your comments. It is good to know.
>>
>> George Kirkham
>>
>> *From:*seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
>> [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 5:23 PM
>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
>>
>> Hi George,
>>
>> What is it that I should add to all the other language files?
>> => It makes it more easy to give a complete (but not fully translated)
>> file to translators. Lots of people tend to just download the
>> language-xml file and translate that. If those files are all incomplete
>> or certain labels are missing that this is just too confusing.
>>
>> The same English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other
>> languages
>> modify for the languages that they are proficient in?
>> => Yes you can fill them up in English and hope that some translators
>> will look into that file. Of course it might take months or even years
>> until really all languages are filled up. You could also use
>> translate.google.com <http://translate.google.com> and look for a
>> translation.
>>
>> Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to follow,
>> if so, please let me know.
>> => If you edit the XML files please don't add linebreaks (some editors
>> do that automatically), if you want to include a "save" linebreak you
>> would actually enter something like this:
>>
>> <br/>
>>
>> (this is XML encoded HTML linebreak "<br/>")
>>
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>> 2012/5/6 George Kirkham <gkirkham@co2crc.com.au
>> <ma...@co2crc.com.au>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language files
>> ?
>>
>> I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common
>> (undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You can
>> fill up other language files the english one. However all language files
>> should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset."
>>
>> What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same
>> English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
>> modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is there a way to
>> ask others to check and update any languages that they are proficient
>> in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to
>> follow, if so, please let me know.
>>
>> I noticed that the Japanese file has
>> <string id="262" name="salutation_miss">
>> <value>Ms.</value>
>> </string>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> George Kirkham
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
>> http://www.openmeetings.de
>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>> seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>
>
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Re: exclusive audio in Build #68
Posted by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>.
I'm really happy seeing new faces (George, Sergey, Stephen) around
with thoughtful and skillful posts - Openmeetings needs you, guys, for a
strong community. The strong community is mandatory for us to leave
incubation and become an full-scale Apache project.
Thank you.
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:01 AM, George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>wrote:
> Hi, I am testing the functionality in build #68****
>
> ** **
>
> These I believe are issues, please check and comment.****
>
> ** **
>
> Test scenario, one moderator, two other participants (one with Audio &
> Video and one with Audio only) then join the meeting. A forth participant
> joins the meeting ****
>
> ** **
>
> **1) **When the moderator hovers over the red disable icon of the
> “Allow/Deny right to give exclusive audio” column for either of the two
> other participants, the text that hovers is “Allow user to give exclusive
> audio”, but after they have been granted rights to give exclusive audio, if
> you hover over the green circled tick, then the text says “User is
> Moderator, he can do anything.”, where as it would be more correct if the
> hover text said “Remove ability to give exclusive audio”, like the “Remove
> ability to draw on the whiteboard”. The “Allow/Deny right to Remote
> Control Screen” ticks also has the same issue (they display “User is
> Moderator, he can do anything.”). In fact in this scenario the statement
> “User is Moderator, he can do anything.” is incorrect as this user is not a
> moderator.
>
> ****
>
> **2) **I would have expected that giving users the “Allow user to
> give exclusive audio” would allow users to control the who currently has
> exclusive audio (i.e. whose mic is not muted), but the users cannot control
> the use of “exclusive audio” (unless they are made moderators).
>
> ****
>
> **3) **It seems the only way to give exclusive audio is by clicking
> the centre of that persons video window, but if a person is set to “Audio
> only”, then they don’t have a video window so there is no way to grant them
> “exclusive audio”. Would it not be better to have a way to control
> exclusive audio from the “Users” list? Why not use the round green (user
> speaks) icon. (see point 5 where it was found that the fourth user to the
> meeting did get a third, video like window where they could control the
> “exclusive audio” for the person who was set to “audio only”. But these
> windows did not appear for the moderator or the other two who were the
> first to join.
>
> ****
>
> **4) **In the “Users” list there is a round green icon like the
> green icon that appears in the Video window, but unlike the video window,
> it does not change to solid green when the user is speaking, I believe it
> is supposed to? If it is not, then what does it do? The hover text says
> “User speaks”.
>
> ****
>
> **5) **when a fourth user joined the meeting (with no audio/video),
> they had two video windows (moderator and the one user who was sending
> video) and one other window like a video window but without any picture as
> the name label of that window indicated that it was the other user who was
> sending audio only. This fourth user, when made a moderator could control
> who had “exclusive audio”, but only when a moderator. The other three users
> still had no way to give the “audio only” user, “exclusive audio”.
>
> ****
>
> **6) **I did a few audio tests to see how much echo was an issue,
> and I am amazed, I had no echo. I will try to test this again, another
> day. Thanks to those who have been working on OpenMeetings.****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,****
>
> ** **
>
> George Kirkham****
>
> ** **
>
> IT Manager****
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) ****
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia****
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600****
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181****
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au, ****
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* brian mullan [mailto:bmullan.mail@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, 10 May 2012 8:53 AM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>****
>
> ** **
>
> Sergey
>
> I think you meant to say if you run service on port *=< 1024* you need
> root privilages
>
> ****
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Sergey Kobzar <se...@itcraft.org>
> wrote:****
>
> On Linux to run service on port >1024 you need root privileges. Non-root
> users can run services on ports >1024.
>
>
> http://www.staldal.nu/tech/2007/10/31/why-can-only-root-listen-to-ports-below-1024/for example...
>
> On 05/09/12 02:25, George Kirkham wrote:****
>
> Mahmut,
>
> Thanks for your comments, the configuration that I am using is below,
> are these settings the same or similar to how you run OpenMeetings or
> port 80 ? If you don’t mind sharing, what is your server’s OS?, and what
> would be your configuration settings that gets OpenMeetings to run on
> port 80 instead of port 5080 ? Maybe there are other areas that I need
> to modify other that the two that I am currently changing.
>
> /etc/init.d/red5
>
> start-stop-daemon --start -c nobody --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir
> $RED5_HOME --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null
> 2>/dev/null &
>
> /usr/lib/red5/conf/red5.properties
>
> # HTTP
>
> http.host=0.0.0.0
>
> http.port=80
>
> https.port=8443
>
> http.URIEncoding=UTF-8
>
> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/config.xml
>
> <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
> I run OpenMeetings using http://mydomain.com.au/ and it will redirect to
> http://mydomain.com.au/openmeetings but then there is no response from
> the server.
>
> I am getting no error information from the log files.
>
> When I do netstat -anp | grep java
>
> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 4044/soffice.bin
>
> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 22175 4044/soffice.bin
> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 4051/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 4051/java
>
> However when I run as root user, then all works, see below for “netstat
> -anp | grep java”
>
> /etc/init.d/red5
>
> start-stop-daemon --start -c root --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir $RED5_HOME
> --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null 2>/dev/null &
>
> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3880/soffice.bin
>
> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 21314 3880/soffice.bin
> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::8080 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57440 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57443 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java
>
> unix 2 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 21818 3887/java
>
> If I
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
> IT Manager
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>
> *From:*Mahmut TEKER [mailto:teker.mahmut@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 9 May 2012 8:49 AM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
> Hi George,
>
> I am using OM on port 80 and there is no problem. In fact I could not
> understand your problem clearly. Can you post error messages or warnings
> in the logs. That would make the issue clearer, I think.
>
> Moreover, there is an issue that, as I remember right, running
> red5/openmeetings on a port below or equal 1200 requires to be root.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> _Mahmut TEKER
>
> On 5/9/2012 12:23 AM, George Kirkham wrote:
>
> Stephen,
>
> The server is only for OpenMeetings, so no Apache running (or
> installed), and nothing else on that port.
>
> I did find the difference, in my first server I was running openMeetings
> as the root user, but with subsequent servers I had been using nobody.
> Running OpenMeetings under nobody works well for port 5080, but not for
> port 80, and I cannot understand why that might be.
>
> One thing I could try is to create a full account called “openmeetings”
> which has a home directory and then try running OpenMeetings under this
> account. Sometimes software requires an account with a home directory,
> not just a dummy account.
>
> I believe the issue is related with OpenMeetings code somewhere, as the
> Red5 server is running and accepting connections (root), just when you
> try to run OpenMeetings itself, that fails.
>
> If I get success at any time, I will post back, but first I wanted to
> learn if anyone was familiar with the issue, and it looks like everyone
> else has their OpenMeetings servers either using port 5080 or are
> successfully running under ‘nobody’.
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
> IT Manager
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>
> *From:*Stephen Cottham [mailto:Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:34 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject:* RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
> You aren’t using Apache on the new Debian server are you?
>
> If Apache is running on port 80 then they will conflict.
>
> To aid in finding the problem, If you go here
>
> /usr/lib/red5
>
> Then chmod 755 red5-debug.sh
>
> Then start it using the debug mode
>
> ./red5-debug.sh
>
> This will tell you more about why its failing to start.
>
> Cheers
>
> *Stephen Cottham**
> *Group IT Manager (Associate)
>
> Robert Bird Group
> Level 5, 333 Ann St
> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
>
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> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 1:24 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject:* <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
> Hi,
>
> Has anyone had success/issues with using port 80 instead of port 5080.
>
> I have a number of Debian OpenMeetings servers. The first that I built I
> have configured using port 80 instead of port 5080, and all works well.
>
> Since that time I have built a few more Debian OpenMeetings servers and
> I cannot get any of them to work with port 80. I really do not think the
> issue is with OpenMeetings or its configuration, because I can copy the
> entire “red5” folder from the new servers to the first (working) server
> and it will work on port 80.
>
> I am hoping that someone may have had similar issues and knows how to
> resolved it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
> IT Manager
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>
> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 9:19 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject:* RE: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
>
> Thanks, Sebastian for your comments. It is good to know.
>
> George Kirkham
>
> *From:*seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
> [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 5:23 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject:* Re: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
>
> Hi George,
>
> What is it that I should add to all the other language files?
> => It makes it more easy to give a complete (but not fully translated)
> file to translators. Lots of people tend to just download the
> language-xml file and translate that. If those files are all incomplete
> or certain labels are missing that this is just too confusing.
>
> The same English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other
> languages
> modify for the languages that they are proficient in?
> => Yes you can fill them up in English and hope that some translators
> will look into that file. Of course it might take months or even years
> until really all languages are filled up. You could also use
> translate.google.com <http://translate.google.com> and look for a
> translation.
>
> Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to follow,
> if so, please let me know.
> => If you edit the XML files please don't add linebreaks (some editors
> do that automatically), if you want to include a "save" linebreak you
> would actually enter something like this:
>
> <br/>
>
> (this is XML encoded HTML linebreak "<br/>")
>
>
> Sebastian
>
> 2012/5/6 George Kirkham <gkirkham@co2crc.com.au
> <ma...@co2crc.com.au>>
>
> Hi,
>
> What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language files
> ?
>
> I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common
> (undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You can
> fill up other language files the english one. However all language files
> should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset."
>
> What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same
> English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
> modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is there a way to
> ask others to check and update any languages that they are proficient
> in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to
> follow, if so, please let me know.
>
> I noticed that the Japanese file has
> <string id="262" name="salutation_miss">
> <value>Ms.</value>
> </string>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
> http://www.openmeetings.de
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>****
>
> ** **
>
RE: 506, "registering_mail_text_head", 507, "registering_mail_text_head2",
Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Hi,
Apologies, my previous email said 518, but it was supposed to be 512,
"register_mail_subject".
Some of our users were confused when our OpenMeetings Administrator
created their accounts (yes, that is me), and they received an email
saying "OpenMeetings SignUp". They were confused because they actually
never "signed up" for OpenMeetings, instead someone else (the CO2CRC
Adminstirator) created their account on their behalf.
I would like to propose the following changes to the English text as
suggested below. Please review and let me know if this would cause any
issues where else the text is used. Please also let me know if you
believe the suggested text changes are an improvement or not.
506, "registering_mail_text_head", "OpenMeetings SignUp" changed to
"OpenMeetings Account Details".
507, "registering_mail_text_head2", "Your user data", changed to "Your
account details".
512, "register_mail_subject", "OpenMeetings SignUp" changed to "Your
OpenMeetings account details".
I have tested the account creation by using "Not a member?" at the
"Login" screen, and the 'automatically generated account details email'
uses this same text that is sent when the Administrator creates an
account. While the wording no longer mentions "sign up", I personally
do not have an issue with this, and it is a lot easier that altering the
code to include text for both ways of signing up. Your comments on my
suggestions, please.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
506, "registering_mail_text_head", 507, "registering_mail_text_head2", 518, "register_mail_subject"
Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Hi,
Some of our users were confused when our OpenMeetings Administrator
created their accounts (yes, that is me), and they received an email
saying "OpenMeetings SignUp". They were confused because they actually
never "signed up" for OpenMeetings, instead someone else (the CO2CRC
Adminstirator) created their account on their behalf.
I would like to propose the following changes to the English text as
suggested below. Please review and let me know if this would cause any
issues where else the text is used. Please also let me know if you
believe the suggested text changes are an improvement or not.
506, "registering_mail_text_head", "OpenMeetings SignUp" changed to
"OpenMeetings Account Details".
507, "registering_mail_text_head2", "Your user data", changed to "Your
account details".
518, "register_mail_subject", "OpenMeetings SignUp" changed to "Your
OpenMeetings account details".
I have tested the account creation by using "Not a member?" at the
"Login" screen, and the 'automatically generated account details email'
uses this same text that is sent when the Administrator creates an
account. While the wording no longer mentions "sign up", I personally
do not have an issue with this, and it is a lot easier that altering the
code to include text for both ways of signing up. Your comments on my
suggestions, please.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
W: www.co2crc.com.au
From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
Sent: Saturday, 12 May 2012 8:40 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: exclusive audio in Build #68
Thanks Sebastian. I will install and test.
George Kirkham
From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, 12 May 2012 7:55 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: exclusive audio in Build #68
Hallo Geroge,
1) + 2) should be solved with
https://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=1337492
Sebastian
RE: exclusive audio in Build #68
Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Thanks Sebastian. I will install and test.
George Kirkham
From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, 12 May 2012 7:55 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: exclusive audio in Build #68
Hallo Geroge,
1) + 2) should be solved with
https://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=1337492
Sebastian
RE: exclusive audio in Build #68
Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Sebastian,
I have tested 1) and 2) and these issues have been fixed. Looks good,
works well ! thanks.
I used "svn checkout
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/trunk/singleweba
pp/" which 'Checked out revision 1337752.", as I expect that revision
1337752 would contain "1337492" as well.
1) When the moderator hovers over the red disable icon of the
"Allow/Deny right to give exclusive audio" column for either of the two
other participants, the text that hovers is "Allow user to give
exclusive audio", but after they have been granted rights to give
exclusive audio, if you hover over the green circled tick, then the text
says "User is Moderator, he can do anything.", where as it would be more
correct if the hover text said "Remove ability to give exclusive audio",
like the "Remove ability to draw on the whiteboard". The "Allow/Deny
right to Remote Control Screen" ticks also has the same issue (they
display "User is Moderator, he can do anything."). In fact in this
scenario the statement "User is Moderator, he can do anything." is
incorrect as this user is not a moderator.
2) I would have expected that giving users the "Allow user to give
exclusive audio" would allow users to control the who currently has
exclusive audio (i.e. whose mic is not muted), but the users cannot
control the use of "exclusive audio" (unless they are made moderators).
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
W: www.co2crc.com.au
From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, 12 May 2012 7:55 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: exclusive audio in Build #68
Hallo Geroge,
1) + 2) should be solved with
https://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=1337492
Sebastian
Re: exclusive audio in Build #68
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
Hallo Geroge,
1) + 2) should be solved with
https://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=1337492
Sebastian
Re: exclusive audio in Build #68
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
Hi George,
your idea to additionally make the exlusive-audio option available by
clicking on the green dot sounds good.
I will go through your list and comment in detail soon.
Sebastian
2012/5/10 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
> Hi, I am testing the functionality in build #68****
>
> ** **
>
> These I believe are issues, please check and comment.****
>
> ** **
>
> Test scenario, one moderator, two other participants (one with Audio &
> Video and one with Audio only) then join the meeting. A forth participant
> joins the meeting ****
>
> ** **
>
> **1) **When the moderator hovers over the red disable icon of the
> “Allow/Deny right to give exclusive audio” column for either of the two
> other participants, the text that hovers is “Allow user to give exclusive
> audio”, but after they have been granted rights to give exclusive audio, if
> you hover over the green circled tick, then the text says “User is
> Moderator, he can do anything.”, where as it would be more correct if the
> hover text said “Remove ability to give exclusive audio”, like the “Remove
> ability to draw on the whiteboard”. The “Allow/Deny right to Remote
> Control Screen” ticks also has the same issue (they display “User is
> Moderator, he can do anything.”). In fact in this scenario the statement
> “User is Moderator, he can do anything.” is incorrect as this user is not a
> moderator.
>
> ****
>
> **2) **I would have expected that giving users the “Allow user to
> give exclusive audio” would allow users to control the who currently has
> exclusive audio (i.e. whose mic is not muted), but the users cannot control
> the use of “exclusive audio” (unless they are made moderators).
>
> ****
>
> **3) **It seems the only way to give exclusive audio is by clicking
> the centre of that persons video window, but if a person is set to “Audio
> only”, then they don’t have a video window so there is no way to grant them
> “exclusive audio”. Would it not be better to have a way to control
> exclusive audio from the “Users” list? Why not use the round green (user
> speaks) icon. (see point 5 where it was found that the fourth user to the
> meeting did get a third, video like window where they could control the
> “exclusive audio” for the person who was set to “audio only”. But these
> windows did not appear for the moderator or the other two who were the
> first to join.
>
> ****
>
> **4) **In the “Users” list there is a round green icon like the
> green icon that appears in the Video window, but unlike the video window,
> it does not change to solid green when the user is speaking, I believe it
> is supposed to? If it is not, then what does it do? The hover text says
> “User speaks”.
>
> ****
>
> **5) **when a fourth user joined the meeting (with no audio/video),
> they had two video windows (moderator and the one user who was sending
> video) and one other window like a video window but without any picture as
> the name label of that window indicated that it was the other user who was
> sending audio only. This fourth user, when made a moderator could control
> who had “exclusive audio”, but only when a moderator. The other three users
> still had no way to give the “audio only” user, “exclusive audio”.
>
> ****
>
> **6) **I did a few audio tests to see how much echo was an issue,
> and I am amazed, I had no echo. I will try to test this again, another
> day. Thanks to those who have been working on OpenMeetings.****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,****
>
> ** **
>
> George Kirkham****
>
> ** **
>
> IT Manager****
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) ****
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia****
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600****
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181****
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au, ****
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* brian mullan [mailto:bmullan.mail@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, 10 May 2012 8:53 AM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>****
>
> ** **
>
> Sergey
>
> I think you meant to say if you run service on port *=< 1024* you need
> root privilages
>
> ****
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Sergey Kobzar <se...@itcraft.org>
> wrote:****
>
> On Linux to run service on port >1024 you need root privileges. Non-root
> users can run services on ports >1024.
>
>
> http://www.staldal.nu/tech/2007/10/31/why-can-only-root-listen-to-ports-below-1024/for example...
>
> On 05/09/12 02:25, George Kirkham wrote:****
>
> Mahmut,
>
> Thanks for your comments, the configuration that I am using is below,
> are these settings the same or similar to how you run OpenMeetings or
> port 80 ? If you don’t mind sharing, what is your server’s OS?, and what
> would be your configuration settings that gets OpenMeetings to run on
> port 80 instead of port 5080 ? Maybe there are other areas that I need
> to modify other that the two that I am currently changing.
>
> /etc/init.d/red5
>
> start-stop-daemon --start -c nobody --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir
> $RED5_HOME --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null
> 2>/dev/null &
>
> /usr/lib/red5/conf/red5.properties
>
> # HTTP
>
> http.host=0.0.0.0
>
> http.port=80
>
> https.port=8443
>
> http.URIEncoding=UTF-8
>
> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/config.xml
>
> <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
> I run OpenMeetings using http://mydomain.com.au/ and it will redirect to
> http://mydomain.com.au/openmeetings but then there is no response from
> the server.
>
> I am getting no error information from the log files.
>
> When I do netstat -anp | grep java
>
> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 4044/soffice.bin
>
> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 22175 4044/soffice.bin
> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 4051/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 4051/java
>
> However when I run as root user, then all works, see below for “netstat
> -anp | grep java”
>
> /etc/init.d/red5
>
> start-stop-daemon --start -c root --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir $RED5_HOME
> --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null 2>/dev/null &
>
> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3880/soffice.bin
>
> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 21314 3880/soffice.bin
> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::8080 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57440 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57443 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java
>
> unix 2 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 21818 3887/java
>
> If I
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
> IT Manager
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>
> *From:*Mahmut TEKER [mailto:teker.mahmut@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 9 May 2012 8:49 AM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
> Hi George,
>
> I am using OM on port 80 and there is no problem. In fact I could not
> understand your problem clearly. Can you post error messages or warnings
> in the logs. That would make the issue clearer, I think.
>
> Moreover, there is an issue that, as I remember right, running
> red5/openmeetings on a port below or equal 1200 requires to be root.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> _Mahmut TEKER
>
> On 5/9/2012 12:23 AM, George Kirkham wrote:
>
> Stephen,
>
> The server is only for OpenMeetings, so no Apache running (or
> installed), and nothing else on that port.
>
> I did find the difference, in my first server I was running openMeetings
> as the root user, but with subsequent servers I had been using nobody.
> Running OpenMeetings under nobody works well for port 5080, but not for
> port 80, and I cannot understand why that might be.
>
> One thing I could try is to create a full account called “openmeetings”
> which has a home directory and then try running OpenMeetings under this
> account. Sometimes software requires an account with a home directory,
> not just a dummy account.
>
> I believe the issue is related with OpenMeetings code somewhere, as the
> Red5 server is running and accepting connections (root), just when you
> try to run OpenMeetings itself, that fails.
>
> If I get success at any time, I will post back, but first I wanted to
> learn if anyone was familiar with the issue, and it looks like everyone
> else has their OpenMeetings servers either using port 5080 or are
> successfully running under ‘nobody’.
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
> IT Manager
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>
> *From:*Stephen Cottham [mailto:Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:34 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject:* RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
> You aren’t using Apache on the new Debian server are you?
>
> If Apache is running on port 80 then they will conflict.
>
> To aid in finding the problem, If you go here
>
> /usr/lib/red5
>
> Then chmod 755 red5-debug.sh
>
> Then start it using the debug mode
>
> ./red5-debug.sh
>
> This will tell you more about why its failing to start.
>
> Cheers
>
> *Stephen Cottham**
> *Group IT Manager (Associate)
>
> Robert Bird Group
> Level 5, 333 Ann St
> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
>
> *Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)*
>
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>
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>
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>
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> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 1:24 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject:* <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
> Hi,
>
> Has anyone had success/issues with using port 80 instead of port 5080.
>
> I have a number of Debian OpenMeetings servers. The first that I built I
> have configured using port 80 instead of port 5080, and all works well.
>
> Since that time I have built a few more Debian OpenMeetings servers and
> I cannot get any of them to work with port 80. I really do not think the
> issue is with OpenMeetings or its configuration, because I can copy the
> entire “red5” folder from the new servers to the first (working) server
> and it will work on port 80.
>
> I am hoping that someone may have had similar issues and knows how to
> resolved it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
> IT Manager
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>
> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 9:19 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject:* RE: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
>
> Thanks, Sebastian for your comments. It is good to know.
>
> George Kirkham
>
> *From:*seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
> [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 5:23 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject:* Re: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
>
> Hi George,
>
> What is it that I should add to all the other language files?
> => It makes it more easy to give a complete (but not fully translated)
> file to translators. Lots of people tend to just download the
> language-xml file and translate that. If those files are all incomplete
> or certain labels are missing that this is just too confusing.
>
> The same English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other
> languages
> modify for the languages that they are proficient in?
> => Yes you can fill them up in English and hope that some translators
> will look into that file. Of course it might take months or even years
> until really all languages are filled up. You could also use
> translate.google.com <http://translate.google.com> and look for a
> translation.
>
> Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to follow,
> if so, please let me know.
> => If you edit the XML files please don't add linebreaks (some editors
> do that automatically), if you want to include a "save" linebreak you
> would actually enter something like this:
>
> <br/>
>
> (this is XML encoded HTML linebreak "<br/>")
>
>
> Sebastian
>
> 2012/5/6 George Kirkham <gkirkham@co2crc.com.au
> <ma...@co2crc.com.au>>
>
> Hi,
>
> What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language files
> ?
>
> I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common
> (undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You can
> fill up other language files the english one. However all language files
> should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset."
>
> What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same
> English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
> modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is there a way to
> ask others to check and update any languages that they are proficient
> in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to
> follow, if so, please let me know.
>
> I noticed that the Japanese file has
> <string id="262" name="salutation_miss">
> <value>Ms.</value>
> </string>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
>
>
>
> --
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> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
> http://www.openmeetings.de
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> seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>****
>
> ** **
>
--
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exclusive audio in Build #68
Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Hi, I am testing the functionality in build #68
These I believe are issues, please check and comment.
Test scenario, one moderator, two other participants (one with Audio &
Video and one with Audio only) then join the meeting. A forth
participant joins the meeting
1) When the moderator hovers over the red disable icon of the
"Allow/Deny right to give exclusive audio" column for either of the two
other participants, the text that hovers is "Allow user to give
exclusive audio", but after they have been granted rights to give
exclusive audio, if you hover over the green circled tick, then the text
says "User is Moderator, he can do anything.", where as it would be more
correct if the hover text said "Remove ability to give exclusive audio",
like the "Remove ability to draw on the whiteboard". The "Allow/Deny
right to Remote Control Screen" ticks also has the same issue (they
display "User is Moderator, he can do anything."). In fact in this
scenario the statement "User is Moderator, he can do anything." is
incorrect as this user is not a moderator.
2) I would have expected that giving users the "Allow user to give
exclusive audio" would allow users to control the who currently has
exclusive audio (i.e. whose mic is not muted), but the users cannot
control the use of "exclusive audio" (unless they are made moderators).
3) It seems the only way to give exclusive audio is by clicking the
centre of that persons video window, but if a person is set to "Audio
only", then they don't have a video window so there is no way to grant
them "exclusive audio". Would it not be better to have a way to control
exclusive audio from the "Users" list? Why not use the round green
(user speaks) icon. (see point 5 where it was found that the fourth
user to the meeting did get a third, video like window where they could
control the "exclusive audio" for the person who was set to "audio
only". But these windows did not appear for the moderator or the other
two who were the first to join.
4) In the "Users" list there is a round green icon like the green
icon that appears in the Video window, but unlike the video window, it
does not change to solid green when the user is speaking, I believe it
is supposed to? If it is not, then what does it do? The hover text
says "User speaks".
5) when a fourth user joined the meeting (with no audio/video),
they had two video windows (moderator and the one user who was sending
video) and one other window like a video window but without any picture
as the name label of that window indicated that it was the other user
who was sending audio only. This fourth user, when made a moderator
could control who had "exclusive audio", but only when a moderator. The
other three users still had no way to give the "audio only" user,
"exclusive audio".
6) I did a few audio tests to see how much echo was an issue, and I
am amazed, I had no echo. I will try to test this again, another day.
Thanks to those who have been working on OpenMeetings.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
W: www.co2crc.com.au
From: brian mullan [mailto:bmullan.mail@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2012 8:53 AM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
Sergey
I think you meant to say if you run service on port =< 1024 you need
root privilages
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Sergey Kobzar
<se...@itcraft.org> wrote:
On Linux to run service on port >1024 you need root privileges. Non-root
users can run services on ports >1024.
http://www.staldal.nu/tech/2007/10/31/why-can-only-root-listen-to-ports-
below-1024/ for example...
On 05/09/12 02:25, George Kirkham wrote:
Mahmut,
Thanks for your comments, the configuration that I am using is below,
are these settings the same or similar to how you run OpenMeetings or
port 80 ? If you don't mind sharing, what is your server's OS?, and what
would be your configuration settings that gets OpenMeetings to run on
port 80 instead of port 5080 ? Maybe there are other areas that I need
to modify other that the two that I am currently changing.
/etc/init.d/red5
start-stop-daemon --start -c nobody --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir
$RED5_HOME --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null
2>/dev/null &
/usr/lib/red5/conf/red5.properties
# HTTP
http.host=0.0.0.0
http.port=80
https.port=8443
http.URIEncoding=UTF-8
/usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/config.xml
<red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
I run OpenMeetings using http://mydomain.com.au/ and it will redirect to
http://mydomain.com.au/openmeetings but then there is no response from
the server.
I am getting no error information from the log files.
When I do netstat -anp | grep java
tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 4044/soffice.bin
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 22175 4044/soffice.bin
/tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb
tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 4051/java
tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 4051/java
However when I run as root user, then all works, see below for "netstat
-anp | grep java"
/etc/init.d/red5
start-stop-daemon --start -c root --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir $RED5_HOME
--background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null 2>/dev/null &
tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3880/soffice.bin
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 21314 3880/soffice.bin
/tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb
tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
tcp6 0 0 :::8080 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
tcp6 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57440 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java
tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57443 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java
unix 2 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 21818 3887/java
If I
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
*From:*Mahmut TEKER [mailto:teker.mahmut@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, 9 May 2012 8:49 AM
*To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
Hi George,
I am using OM on port 80 and there is no problem. In fact I could not
understand your problem clearly. Can you post error messages or warnings
in the logs. That would make the issue clearer, I think.
Moreover, there is an issue that, as I remember right, running
red5/openmeetings on a port below or equal 1200 requires to be root.
Regards,
_Mahmut TEKER
On 5/9/2012 12:23 AM, George Kirkham wrote:
Stephen,
The server is only for OpenMeetings, so no Apache running (or
installed), and nothing else on that port.
I did find the difference, in my first server I was running openMeetings
as the root user, but with subsequent servers I had been using nobody.
Running OpenMeetings under nobody works well for port 5080, but not for
port 80, and I cannot understand why that might be.
One thing I could try is to create a full account called "openmeetings"
which has a home directory and then try running OpenMeetings under this
account. Sometimes software requires an account with a home directory,
not just a dummy account.
I believe the issue is related with OpenMeetings code somewhere, as the
Red5 server is running and accepting connections (root), just when you
try to run OpenMeetings itself, that fails.
If I get success at any time, I will post back, but first I wanted to
learn if anyone was familiar with the issue, and it looks like everyone
else has their OpenMeetings servers either using port 5080 or are
successfully running under 'nobody'.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
*From:*Stephen Cottham [mailto:Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au]
*Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:34 PM
*To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
<ma...@incubator.apache.org>
*Subject:* RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
You aren't using Apache on the new Debian server are you?
If Apache is running on port 80 then they will conflict.
To aid in finding the problem, If you go here
/usr/lib/red5
Then chmod 755 red5-debug.sh
Then start it using the debug mode
./red5-debug.sh
This will tell you more about why its failing to start.
Cheers
*Stephen Cottham**
*Group IT Manager (Associate)
Robert Bird Group
Level 5, 333 Ann St
Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
*Phone: +6173 319 2777 <tel:%2B6173%20319%202777> (AUS)*
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*From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
*Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 1:24 PM
*To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
<ma...@incubator.apache.org>
*Subject:* <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
Hi,
Has anyone had success/issues with using port 80 instead of port 5080.
I have a number of Debian OpenMeetings servers. The first that I built I
have configured using port 80 instead of port 5080, and all works well.
Since that time I have built a few more Debian OpenMeetings servers and
I cannot get any of them to work with port 80. I really do not think the
issue is with OpenMeetings or its configuration, because I can copy the
entire "red5" folder from the new servers to the first (working) server
and it will work on port 80.
I am hoping that someone may have had similar issues and knows how to
resolved it.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
*From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
*Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 9:19 PM
*To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
<ma...@incubator.apache.org>
*Subject:* RE: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
Thanks, Sebastian for your comments. It is good to know.
George Kirkham
*From:*seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
[mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 5:23 PM
*To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
<ma...@incubator.apache.org>
*Subject:* Re: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
Hi George,
What is it that I should add to all the other language files?
=> It makes it more easy to give a complete (but not fully translated)
file to translators. Lots of people tend to just download the
language-xml file and translate that. If those files are all incomplete
or certain labels are missing that this is just too confusing.
The same English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other
languages
modify for the languages that they are proficient in?
=> Yes you can fill them up in English and hope that some translators
will look into that file. Of course it might take months or even years
until really all languages are filled up. You could also use
translate.google.com <http://translate.google.com> and look for a
translation.
Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to follow,
if so, please let me know.
=> If you edit the XML files please don't add linebreaks (some editors
do that automatically), if you want to include a "save" linebreak you
would actually enter something like this:
<br/>
(this is XML encoded HTML linebreak "<br/>")
Sebastian
2012/5/6 George Kirkham <gkirkham@co2crc.com.au
<ma...@co2crc.com.au>>
Hi,
What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language files
?
I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common
(undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You can
fill up other language files the english one. However all language files
should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset."
What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same
English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is there a way to
ask others to check and update any languages that they are proficient
in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to
follow, if so, please let me know.
I noticed that the Japanese file has
<string id="262" name="salutation_miss">
<value>Ms.</value>
</string>
Thanks,
George Kirkham
--
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<https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
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Re: 80
Posted by Sergey Kobzar <se...@itcraft.org>.
http://www.webmasterworld.com/apache/3634577.htm
Google
On 05/10/12 09:59, Stephen Cottham wrote:
> Reverse proxy can work yes
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 10 May 2012, at 07:56, "George Kirkham" <gkirkham@co2crc.com.au
> <ma...@co2crc.com.au>> wrote:
>
>> Since Apache can and does listen on Port 80, is there a way to have
>> Apache redirect all traffic on port 80 (or better yet, all traffic for
>> www.mydomain.com.au/openmeeting
>> <http://www.mydomain.com.au/openmeeting> to port 5080 where
>> red5/Openmeeting can be listening ?
>>
>> I have not tried this as I thought it would not work.
>>
>> ServerName www.mydomain.com.au:80
>>
>> # Redirect / https:www.mydomain.com.au/openmeetings
>>
>> RequestHeader set Front-End-Https "On"
>>
>> ProxyPreserveHost On
>>
>> ProxyRequests off
>>
>> ProxyVia On
>>
>> RewriteEngine On
>>
>> RewriteMap percentsubject int:escape
>>
>> RewriteCond $1 ^/openmeetings/.*\%.*$
>>
>> RewriteRule (/openmeetings/.*) ${percentsubject:$1} [P]
>>
>> RewriteRule openmeetings([^/].*) /openmeetings/$1 [R,QSA,L]
>>
>> <Location /openmeetings>
>>
>> ProxyPass https://www.mydomain.com.au/openmeetings/
>>
>> ProxyPassReverse https://www.mydomain.com.au/openmeetings/
>>
>> </Location>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> George Kirkham
>>
>> *Stephen Cottham**
>> *Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>
>> Robert Bird Group
>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
>>
>> *Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)*
>>
>> *Phone: +44207 592 8000 (UK)*
>>
>> *Fax: +6173 319 2799*
>>
>> **
>>
>> *Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)*
>>
>> *Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)*
>>
>> *Web: **www.robertbird.com* <http://www.robertbird.com/>
>>
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>> *From:*Alexei Fedotov [mailto:alexei.fedotov@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, 10 May 2012 4:45 PM
>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>>
>> I agree with Sergey that the port should be configurable to make it
>> possible using port >1024, still it may be 80 port by default. Right
>> now there are no known issues to have that implemented without httpd,
>> still it requies some work. Rtmp will use 1935, but fall back to that
>> default port and rtmpt if fail. Maxim thinks that cannot be done just
>> tweaking tomcat (? The java server embedded into red5) configuration,
>> but some proxy-like plug-in to sort traffic.
>>
>> 10.05.2012 2:52 пользователь "brian mullan" <bmullan.mail@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>> написал:
>>
>> Sergey
>>
>> I think you meant to say if you run service on port *=< 1024* you need
>> root privilages
>>
>> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Sergey Kobzar
>> <sergey.kobzar@itcraft.org <ma...@itcraft.org>> wrote:
>>
>> On Linux to run service on port >1024 you need root privileges.
>> Non-root users can run services on ports >1024.
>>
>> http://www.staldal.nu/tech/2007/10/31/why-can-only-root-listen-to-ports-below-1024/
>> for example...
>>
>> On 05/09/12 02:25, George Kirkham wrote:
>>
>> Mahmut,
>>
>> Thanks for your comments, the configuration that I am using is below,
>> are these settings the same or similar to how you run OpenMeetings or
>> port 80 ? If you don’t mind sharing, what is your server’s OS?, and what
>> would be your configuration settings that gets OpenMeetings to run on
>> port 80 instead of port 5080 ? Maybe there are other areas that I need
>> to modify other that the two that I am currently changing.
>>
>> /etc/init.d/red5
>>
>> start-stop-daemon --start -c nobody --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir
>> $RED5_HOME --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null
>> 2>/dev/null &
>>
>> /usr/lib/red5/conf/red5.properties
>>
>> # HTTP
>>
>> http.host=0.0.0.0
>>
>> http.port=80
>>
>> https.port=8443
>>
>> http.URIEncoding=UTF-8
>>
>> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/config.xml
>>
>> <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>>
>> I run OpenMeetings using http://mydomain.com.au/ and it will redirect to
>> http://mydomain.com.au/openmeetings but then there is no response from
>> the server.
>>
>> I am getting no error information from the log files.
>>
>> When I do netstat -anp | grep java
>>
>> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 <http://127.0.0.1:8100> 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
>> 4044/soffice.bin
>>
>> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 22175 4044/soffice.bin
>> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb
>>
>> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 4051/java
>>
>> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 4051/java
>>
>> However when I run as root user, then all works, see below for “netstat
>> -anp | grep java”
>>
>> /etc/init.d/red5
>>
>> start-stop-daemon --start -c root --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir $RED5_HOME
>> --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null 2>/dev/null &
>>
>> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 <http://127.0.0.1:8100> 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
>> 3880/soffice.bin
>>
>> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 21314 3880/soffice.bin
>> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb
>>
>> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>>
>> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>>
>> tcp6 0 0 :::8080 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>>
>> tcp6 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>>
>> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57440 <http://192.168.1.123:57440>
>> 192.168.1.123:3306 <http://192.168.1.123:3306> ESTABLISHED 3887/java
>>
>> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57443 <http://192.168.1.123:57443>
>> 192.168.1.123:3306 <http://192.168.1.123:3306> ESTABLISHED 3887/java
>>
>> unix 2 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 21818 3887/java
>>
>> If I
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> George Kirkham
>>
>> IT Manager
>>
>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>>
>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>>
>> T: (02) 6120 1600
>>
>> F: (02) 6273 7181
>>
>> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>
>> <mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>>,
>>
>> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au> <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>>
>> *From:*Mahmut TEKER [mailto:teker.mahmut@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 9 May 2012 8:49 AM
>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>>
>> Hi George,
>>
>> I am using OM on port 80 and there is no problem. In fact I could not
>> understand your problem clearly. Can you post error messages or warnings
>> in the logs. That would make the issue clearer, I think.
>>
>> Moreover, there is an issue that, as I remember right, running
>> red5/openmeetings on a port below or equal 1200 requires to be root.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> _Mahmut TEKER
>>
>> On 5/9/2012 12:23 AM, George Kirkham wrote:
>>
>> Stephen,
>>
>> The server is only for OpenMeetings, so no Apache running (or
>> installed), and nothing else on that port.
>>
>> I did find the difference, in my first server I was running openMeetings
>> as the root user, but with subsequent servers I had been using nobody.
>> Running OpenMeetings under nobody works well for port 5080, but not for
>> port 80, and I cannot understand why that might be.
>>
>> One thing I could try is to create a full account called “openmeetings”
>> which has a home directory and then try running OpenMeetings under this
>> account. Sometimes software requires an account with a home directory,
>> not just a dummy account.
>>
>> I believe the issue is related with OpenMeetings code somewhere, as the
>> Red5 server is running and accepting connections (root), just when you
>> try to run OpenMeetings itself, that fails.
>>
>> If I get success at any time, I will post back, but first I wanted to
>> learn if anyone was familiar with the issue, and it looks like everyone
>> else has their OpenMeetings servers either using port 5080 or are
>> successfully running under ‘nobody’.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> George Kirkham
>>
>> IT Manager
>>
>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>>
>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>>
>> T: (02) 6120 1600
>>
>> F: (02) 6273 7181
>>
>> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>
>> <mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>>,
>>
>> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au> <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>>
>> *From:*Stephen Cottham [mailto:Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au
>> <ma...@robertbird.com.au>]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:34 PM
>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
>> <mailto:openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>>
>> *Subject:* RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>>
>> You aren’t using Apache on the new Debian server are you?
>>
>> If Apache is running on port 80 then they will conflict.
>>
>> To aid in finding the problem, If you go here
>>
>> /usr/lib/red5
>>
>> Then chmod 755 red5-debug.sh
>>
>> Then start it using the debug mode
>>
>> ./red5-debug.sh
>>
>> This will tell you more about why its failing to start.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> *Stephen Cottham**
>> *Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>
>> Robert Bird Group
>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
>>
>> *Phone: +6173 319 2777 <tel:%2B6173%20319%202777> (AUS)*
>>
>> *Phone: +44207 592 8000 <tel:%2B44207%20592%208000> (UK)*
>>
>> *Fax: +6173 319 2799 <tel:%2B6173%20319%202799>*
>>
>> *Mobile: +61400 756 963 <tel:%2B61400%20756%20963> (AUS)*
>>
>> *Mobile: +447900 918 616 <tel:%2B447900%20918%20616> (UK)*
>>
>> *Web: **www.robertbird.com <http://www.robertbird.com>*
>> <http://www.robertbird.com/>
>>
>> <http://www.robertbird.com.au/>
>>
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>> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au
>> <ma...@co2crc.com.au>]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 1:24 PM
>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
>> <mailto:openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>>
>> *Subject:* <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Has anyone had success/issues with using port 80 instead of port 5080.
>>
>> I have a number of Debian OpenMeetings servers. The first that I built I
>> have configured using port 80 instead of port 5080, and all works well.
>>
>> Since that time I have built a few more Debian OpenMeetings servers and
>> I cannot get any of them to work with port 80. I really do not think the
>> issue is with OpenMeetings or its configuration, because I can copy the
>> entire “red5” folder from the new servers to the first (working) server
>> and it will work on port 80.
>>
>> I am hoping that someone may have had similar issues and knows how to
>> resolved it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> George Kirkham
>>
>> IT Manager
>>
>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>>
>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>>
>> T: (02) 6120 1600
>>
>> F: (02) 6273 7181
>>
>> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>
>> <mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>>,
>>
>> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au> <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>>
>> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au
>> <ma...@co2crc.com.au>]
>> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 9:19 PM
>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
>> <mailto:openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>>
>> *Subject:* RE: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
>>
>> Thanks, Sebastian for your comments. It is good to know.
>>
>> George Kirkham
>>
>> *From:*seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
>> <mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>
>> [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>]
>> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 5:23 PM
>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
>> <mailto:openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>>
>> *Subject:* Re: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
>>
>> Hi George,
>>
>> What is it that I should add to all the other language files?
>> => It makes it more easy to give a complete (but not fully translated)
>> file to translators. Lots of people tend to just download the
>> language-xml file and translate that. If those files are all incomplete
>> or certain labels are missing that this is just too confusing.
>>
>> The same English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other
>> languages
>> modify for the languages that they are proficient in?
>> => Yes you can fill them up in English and hope that some translators
>> will look into that file. Of course it might take months or even years
>> until really all languages are filled up. You could also use
>> translate.google.com <http://translate.google.com>
>> <http://translate.google.com> and look for a
>> translation.
>>
>> Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to follow,
>> if so, please let me know.
>> => If you edit the XML files please don't add linebreaks (some editors
>> do that automatically), if you want to include a "save" linebreak you
>> would actually enter something like this:
>>
>> <br/>
>>
>> (this is XML encoded HTML linebreak "<br/>")
>>
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>> 2012/5/6 George Kirkham <gkirkham@co2crc.com.au
>> <ma...@co2crc.com.au>
>> <mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language files
>> ?
>>
>> I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common
>> (undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You can
>> fill up other language files the english one. However all language files
>> should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset."
>>
>> What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same
>> English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
>> modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is there a way to
>> ask others to check and update any languages that they are proficient
>> in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to
>> follow, if so, please let me know.
>>
>> I noticed that the Japanese file has
>> <string id="262" name="salutation_miss">
>> <value>Ms.</value>
>> </string>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> George Kirkham
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
>> <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
>> http://www.openmeetings.de
>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>> seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
>> <mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>
>>
Re: 80
Posted by Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>.
Reverse proxy can work yes
Sent from my iPhone
On 10 May 2012, at 07:56, "George Kirkham" <gk...@co2crc.com.au> wrote:
> Since Apache can and does listen on Port 80, is there a way to have Apache redirect all traffic on port 80 (or better yet, all traffic for www.mydomain.com.au/openmeeting to port 5080 where red5/Openmeeting can be listening ?
>
> I have not tried this as I thought it would not work.
>
> ServerName www.mydomain.com.au:80
> # Redirect / https:www.mydomain.com.au/openmeetings
> RequestHeader set Front-End-Https "On"
> ProxyPreserveHost On
> ProxyRequests off
> ProxyVia On
>
>
> RewriteEngine On
> RewriteMap percentsubject int:escape
> RewriteCond $1 ^/openmeetings/.*\%.*$
> RewriteRule (/openmeetings/.*) ${percentsubject:$1} [P]
>
> RewriteRule openmeetings([^/].*) /openmeetings/$1 [R,QSA,L]
>
>
> <Location /openmeetings>
> ProxyPass https://www.mydomain.com.au/openmeetings/
> ProxyPassReverse https://www.mydomain.com.au/openmeetings/
> </Location>
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
>
>
> From: Alexei Fedotov [mailto:alexei.fedotov@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2012 4:45 PM
> To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
> I agree with Sergey that the port should be configurable to make it possible using port >1024, still it may be 80 port by default. Right now there are no known issues to have that implemented without httpd, still it requies some work. Rtmp will use 1935, but fall back to that default port and rtmpt if fail. Maxim thinks that cannot be done just tweaking tomcat (? The java server embedded into red5) configuration, but some proxy-like plug-in to sort traffic.
>
> 10.05.2012 2:52 пользователь "brian mullan" <bm...@gmail.com> написал:
> Sergey
>
> I think you meant to say if you run service on port =< 1024 you need root privilages
>
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Sergey Kobzar <se...@itcraft.org> wrote:
> On Linux to run service on port >1024 you need root privileges. Non-root users can run services on ports >1024.
>
> http://www.staldal.nu/tech/2007/10/31/why-can-only-root-listen-to-ports-below-1024/ for example...
>
> On 05/09/12 02:25, George Kirkham wrote:
> Mahmut,
>
> Thanks for your comments, the configuration that I am using is below,
> are these settings the same or similar to how you run OpenMeetings or
> port 80 ? If you don’t mind sharing, what is your server’s OS?, and what
> would be your configuration settings that gets OpenMeetings to run on
> port 80 instead of port 5080 ? Maybe there are other areas that I need
> to modify other that the two that I am currently changing.
>
> /etc/init.d/red5
>
> start-stop-daemon --start -c nobody --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir
> $RED5_HOME --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null
> 2>/dev/null &
>
> /usr/lib/red5/conf/red5.properties
>
> # HTTP
>
> http.host=0.0.0.0
>
> http.port=80
>
> https.port=8443
>
> http.URIEncoding=UTF-8
>
> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/config.xml
>
> <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
> I run OpenMeetings using http://mydomain.com.au/ and it will redirect to
> http://mydomain.com.au/openmeetings but then there is no response from
> the server.
>
> I am getting no error information from the log files.
>
> When I do netstat -anp | grep java
>
> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 4044/soffice.bin
>
> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 22175 4044/soffice.bin
> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 4051/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 4051/java
>
> However when I run as root user, then all works, see below for “netstat
> -anp | grep java”
>
> /etc/init.d/red5
>
> start-stop-daemon --start -c root --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir $RED5_HOME
> --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null 2>/dev/null &
>
> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3880/soffice.bin
>
> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 21314 3880/soffice.bin
> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::8080 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57440 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57443 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java
>
> unix 2 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 21818 3887/java
>
> If I
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
> IT Manager
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>
> *From:*Mahmut TEKER [mailto:teker.mahmut@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 9 May 2012 8:49 AM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
> Hi George,
>
> I am using OM on port 80 and there is no problem. In fact I could not
> understand your problem clearly. Can you post error messages or warnings
> in the logs. That would make the issue clearer, I think.
>
> Moreover, there is an issue that, as I remember right, running
> red5/openmeetings on a port below or equal 1200 requires to be root.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> _Mahmut TEKER
>
> On 5/9/2012 12:23 AM, George Kirkham wrote:
>
> Stephen,
>
> The server is only for OpenMeetings, so no Apache running (or
> installed), and nothing else on that port.
>
> I did find the difference, in my first server I was running openMeetings
> as the root user, but with subsequent servers I had been using nobody.
> Running OpenMeetings under nobody works well for port 5080, but not for
> port 80, and I cannot understand why that might be.
>
> One thing I could try is to create a full account called “openmeetings”
> which has a home directory and then try running OpenMeetings under this
> account. Sometimes software requires an account with a home directory,
> not just a dummy account.
>
> I believe the issue is related with OpenMeetings code somewhere, as the
> Red5 server is running and accepting connections (root), just when you
> try to run OpenMeetings itself, that fails.
>
> If I get success at any time, I will post back, but first I wanted to
> learn if anyone was familiar with the issue, and it looks like everyone
> else has their OpenMeetings servers either using port 5080 or are
> successfully running under ‘nobody’.
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
> IT Manager
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>
> *From:*Stephen Cottham [mailto:Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:34 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject:* RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
> You aren’t using Apache on the new Debian server are you?
>
> If Apache is running on port 80 then they will conflict.
>
> To aid in finding the problem, If you go here
>
> /usr/lib/red5
>
> Then chmod 755 red5-debug.sh
>
> Then start it using the debug mode
>
> ./red5-debug.sh
>
> This will tell you more about why its failing to start.
>
> Cheers
>
> *Stephen Cottham**
> *Group IT Manager (Associate)
>
> Robert Bird Group
> Level 5, 333 Ann St
> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
>
> *Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)*
>
> *Phone: +44207 592 8000 (UK)*
>
> *Fax: +6173 319 2799*
>
> *Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)*
>
> *Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)*
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> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 1:24 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject:* <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
> Hi,
>
> Has anyone had success/issues with using port 80 instead of port 5080.
>
> I have a number of Debian OpenMeetings servers. The first that I built I
> have configured using port 80 instead of port 5080, and all works well.
>
> Since that time I have built a few more Debian OpenMeetings servers and
> I cannot get any of them to work with port 80. I really do not think the
> issue is with OpenMeetings or its configuration, because I can copy the
> entire “red5” folder from the new servers to the first (working) server
> and it will work on port 80.
>
> I am hoping that someone may have had similar issues and knows how to
> resolved it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
> IT Manager
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>
> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 9:19 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject:* RE: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
>
> Thanks, Sebastian for your comments. It is good to know.
>
> George Kirkham
>
> *From:*seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
> [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 5:23 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject:* Re: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
>
> Hi George,
>
> What is it that I should add to all the other language files?
> => It makes it more easy to give a complete (but not fully translated)
> file to translators. Lots of people tend to just download the
> language-xml file and translate that. If those files are all incomplete
> or certain labels are missing that this is just too confusing.
>
> The same English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other
> languages
> modify for the languages that they are proficient in?
> => Yes you can fill them up in English and hope that some translators
> will look into that file. Of course it might take months or even years
> until really all languages are filled up. You could also use
> translate.google.com <http://translate.google.com> and look for a
> translation.
>
> Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to follow,
> if so, please let me know.
> => If you edit the XML files please don't add linebreaks (some editors
> do that automatically), if you want to include a "save" linebreak you
> would actually enter something like this:
>
> <br/>
>
> (this is XML encoded HTML linebreak "<br/>")
>
>
> Sebastian
>
> 2012/5/6 George Kirkham <gkirkham@co2crc.com.au
> <ma...@co2crc.com.au>>
>
> Hi,
>
> What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language files
> ?
>
> I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common
> (undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You can
> fill up other language files the english one. However all language files
> should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset."
>
> What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same
> English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
> modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is there a way to
> ask others to check and update any languages that they are proficient
> in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to
> follow, if so, please let me know.
>
> I noticed that the Japanese file has
> <string id="262" name="salutation_miss">
> <value>Ms.</value>
> </string>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
> http://www.openmeetings.de
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
>
>
Stephen Cottham
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Robert Bird Group
Level 5, 333 Ann St
Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)
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RE: 80
Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Since Apache can and does listen on Port 80, is there a way to have Apache redirect all traffic on port 80 (or better yet, all traffic for www.mydomain.com.au/openmeeting to port 5080 where red5/Openmeeting can be listening ?
I have not tried this as I thought it would not work.
ServerName www.mydomain.com.au:80
# Redirect / https:www.mydomain.com.au/openmeetings
RequestHeader set Front-End-Https "On"
ProxyPreserveHost On
ProxyRequests off
ProxyVia On
RewriteEngine On
RewriteMap percentsubject int:escape
RewriteCond $1 ^/openmeetings/.*\%.*$
RewriteRule (/openmeetings/.*) ${percentsubject:$1} [P]
RewriteRule openmeetings([^/].*) /openmeetings/$1 [R,QSA,L]
<Location /openmeetings>
ProxyPass https://www.mydomain.com.au/openmeetings/
ProxyPassReverse https://www.mydomain.com.au/openmeetings/
</Location>
Thanks,
George Kirkham
From: Alexei Fedotov [mailto:alexei.fedotov@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2012 4:45 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
I agree with Sergey that the port should be configurable to make it possible using port >1024, still it may be 80 port by default. Right now there are no known issues to have that implemented without httpd, still it requies some work. Rtmp will use 1935, but fall back to that default port and rtmpt if fail. Maxim thinks that cannot be done just tweaking tomcat (? The java server embedded into red5) configuration, but some proxy-like plug-in to sort traffic.
10.05.2012 2:52 пользователь "brian mullan" <bm...@gmail.com> написал:
Sergey
I think you meant to say if you run service on port =< 1024 you need root privilages
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Sergey Kobzar <se...@itcraft.org> wrote:
On Linux to run service on port >1024 you need root privileges. Non-root users can run services on ports >1024.
http://www.staldal.nu/tech/2007/10/31/why-can-only-root-listen-to-ports-below-1024/ for example...
On 05/09/12 02:25, George Kirkham wrote:
Mahmut,
Thanks for your comments, the configuration that I am using is below,
are these settings the same or similar to how you run OpenMeetings or
port 80 ? If you don’t mind sharing, what is your server’s OS?, and what
would be your configuration settings that gets OpenMeetings to run on
port 80 instead of port 5080 ? Maybe there are other areas that I need
to modify other that the two that I am currently changing.
/etc/init.d/red5
start-stop-daemon --start -c nobody --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir
$RED5_HOME --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null
2>/dev/null &
/usr/lib/red5/conf/red5.properties
# HTTP
http.host=0.0.0.0
http.port=80
https.port=8443
http.URIEncoding=UTF-8
/usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/config.xml
<red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
I run OpenMeetings using http://mydomain.com.au/ and it will redirect to
http://mydomain.com.au/openmeetings but then there is no response from
the server.
I am getting no error information from the log files.
When I do netstat -anp | grep java
tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 4044/soffice.bin
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 22175 4044/soffice.bin
/tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb
tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 4051/java
tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 4051/java
However when I run as root user, then all works, see below for “netstat
-anp | grep java”
/etc/init.d/red5
start-stop-daemon --start -c root --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir $RED5_HOME
--background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null 2>/dev/null &
tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3880/soffice.bin
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 21314 3880/soffice.bin
/tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb
tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
tcp6 0 0 :::8080 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
tcp6 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57440 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java
tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57443 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java
unix 2 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 21818 3887/java
If I
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
*From:*Mahmut TEKER [mailto:teker.mahmut@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, 9 May 2012 8:49 AM
*To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
Hi George,
I am using OM on port 80 and there is no problem. In fact I could not
understand your problem clearly. Can you post error messages or warnings
in the logs. That would make the issue clearer, I think.
Moreover, there is an issue that, as I remember right, running
red5/openmeetings on a port below or equal 1200 requires to be root.
Regards,
_Mahmut TEKER
On 5/9/2012 12:23 AM, George Kirkham wrote:
Stephen,
The server is only for OpenMeetings, so no Apache running (or
installed), and nothing else on that port.
I did find the difference, in my first server I was running openMeetings
as the root user, but with subsequent servers I had been using nobody.
Running OpenMeetings under nobody works well for port 5080, but not for
port 80, and I cannot understand why that might be.
One thing I could try is to create a full account called “openmeetings”
which has a home directory and then try running OpenMeetings under this
account. Sometimes software requires an account with a home directory,
not just a dummy account.
I believe the issue is related with OpenMeetings code somewhere, as the
Red5 server is running and accepting connections (root), just when you
try to run OpenMeetings itself, that fails.
If I get success at any time, I will post back, but first I wanted to
learn if anyone was familiar with the issue, and it looks like everyone
else has their OpenMeetings servers either using port 5080 or are
successfully running under ‘nobody’.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
*From:*Stephen Cottham [mailto:Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au]
*Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:34 PM
*To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
<ma...@incubator.apache.org>
*Subject:* RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
You aren’t using Apache on the new Debian server are you?
If Apache is running on port 80 then they will conflict.
To aid in finding the problem, If you go here
/usr/lib/red5
Then chmod 755 red5-debug.sh
Then start it using the debug mode
./red5-debug.sh
This will tell you more about why its failing to start.
Cheers
*Stephen Cottham**
*Group IT Manager (Associate)
Robert Bird Group
Level 5, 333 Ann St
Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
*Phone: +6173 319 2777 <tel:%2B6173%20319%202777> (AUS)*
*Phone: +44207 592 8000 <tel:%2B44207%20592%208000> (UK)*
*Fax: +6173 319 2799 <tel:%2B6173%20319%202799> *
*Mobile: +61400 756 963 <tel:%2B61400%20756%20963> (AUS)*
*Mobile: +447900 918 616 <tel:%2B447900%20918%20616> (UK)*
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<http://www.robertbird.com.au/>
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*From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
*Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 1:24 PM
*To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
<ma...@incubator.apache.org>
*Subject:* <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
Hi,
Has anyone had success/issues with using port 80 instead of port 5080.
I have a number of Debian OpenMeetings servers. The first that I built I
have configured using port 80 instead of port 5080, and all works well.
Since that time I have built a few more Debian OpenMeetings servers and
I cannot get any of them to work with port 80. I really do not think the
issue is with OpenMeetings or its configuration, because I can copy the
entire “red5” folder from the new servers to the first (working) server
and it will work on port 80.
I am hoping that someone may have had similar issues and knows how to
resolved it.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
*From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
*Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 9:19 PM
*To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
<ma...@incubator.apache.org>
*Subject:* RE: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
Thanks, Sebastian for your comments. It is good to know.
George Kirkham
*From:*seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
[mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 5:23 PM
*To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
<ma...@incubator.apache.org>
*Subject:* Re: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
Hi George,
What is it that I should add to all the other language files?
=> It makes it more easy to give a complete (but not fully translated)
file to translators. Lots of people tend to just download the
language-xml file and translate that. If those files are all incomplete
or certain labels are missing that this is just too confusing.
The same English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other
languages
modify for the languages that they are proficient in?
=> Yes you can fill them up in English and hope that some translators
will look into that file. Of course it might take months or even years
until really all languages are filled up. You could also use
translate.google.com <http://translate.google.com> and look for a
translation.
Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to follow,
if so, please let me know.
=> If you edit the XML files please don't add linebreaks (some editors
do that automatically), if you want to include a "save" linebreak you
would actually enter something like this:
<br/>
(this is XML encoded HTML linebreak "<br/>")
Sebastian
2012/5/6 George Kirkham <gkirkham@co2crc.com.au
<ma...@co2crc.com.au>>
Hi,
What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language files
?
I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common
(undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You can
fill up other language files the english one. However all language files
should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset."
What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same
English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is there a way to
ask others to check and update any languages that they are proficient
in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to
follow, if so, please let me know.
I noticed that the Japanese file has
<string id="262" name="salutation_miss">
<value>Ms.</value>
</string>
Thanks,
George Kirkham
--
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https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock> <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
http://www.openmeetings.de
http://www.webbase-design.de
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Re: 80
Posted by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>.
I agree with Sergey that the port should be configurable to make it
possible using port >1024, still it may be 80 port by default. Right now
there are no known issues to have that implemented without httpd, still it
requies some work. Rtmp will use 1935, but fall back to that default port
and rtmpt if fail. Maxim thinks that cannot be done just tweaking tomcat (?
The java server embedded into red5) configuration, but some proxy-like
plug-in to sort traffic.
10.05.2012 2:52 пользователь "brian mullan" <bm...@gmail.com>
написал:
> Sergey
>
> I think you meant to say if you run service on port *=< 1024* you need
> root privilages
>
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Sergey Kobzar <se...@itcraft.org>wrote:
>
>> On Linux to run service on port >1024 you need root privileges. Non-root
>> users can run services on ports >1024.
>>
>> http://www.staldal.nu/tech/**2007/10/31/why-can-only-root-**
>> listen-to-ports-below-1024/<http://www.staldal.nu/tech/2007/10/31/why-can-only-root-listen-to-ports-below-1024/>for example...
>>
>> On 05/09/12 02:25, George Kirkham wrote:
>>
>>> Mahmut,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your comments, the configuration that I am using is below,
>>> are these settings the same or similar to how you run OpenMeetings or
>>> port 80 ? If you don’t mind sharing, what is your server’s OS?, and what
>>> would be your configuration settings that gets OpenMeetings to run on
>>> port 80 instead of port 5080 ? Maybe there are other areas that I need
>>> to modify other that the two that I am currently changing.
>>>
>>> /etc/init.d/red5
>>>
>>> start-stop-daemon --start -c nobody --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir
>>> $RED5_HOME --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null
>>> 2>/dev/null &
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/red5/conf/red5.**properties
>>>
>>> # HTTP
>>>
>>> http.host=0.0.0.0
>>>
>>> http.port=80
>>>
>>> https.port=8443
>>>
>>> http.URIEncoding=UTF-8
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/**openmeetings/config.xml
>>>
>>> <red5httpport>80</**red5httpport>
>>>
>>> I run OpenMeetings using http://mydomain.com.au/ and it will redirect to
>>> http://mydomain.com.au/**openmeetings<http://mydomain.com.au/openmeetings>but then there is no response from
>>> the server.
>>>
>>> I am getting no error information from the log files.
>>>
>>> When I do netstat -anp | grep java
>>>
>>> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 4044/soffice.bin
>>>
>>> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 22175 4044/soffice.bin
>>> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_**SingleOfficeIPC_**44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4**fb
>>>
>>> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 4051/java
>>>
>>> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 4051/java
>>>
>>> However when I run as root user, then all works, see below for “netstat
>>> -anp | grep java”
>>>
>>> /etc/init.d/red5
>>>
>>> start-stop-daemon --start -c root --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir $RED5_HOME
>>> --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null 2>/dev/null &
>>>
>>> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3880/soffice.bin
>>>
>>> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 21314 3880/soffice.bin
>>> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_**SingleOfficeIPC_**44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4**fb
>>>
>>> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>>>
>>> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>>>
>>> tcp6 0 0 :::8080 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>>>
>>> tcp6 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>>>
>>> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57440 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java
>>>
>>> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57443 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java
>>>
>>> unix 2 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 21818 3887/java
>>>
>>> If I
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> George Kirkham
>>>
>>> IT Manager
>>>
>>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>>>
>>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>>>
>>> T: (02) 6120 1600
>>>
>>> F: (02) 6273 7181
>>>
>>> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au**>,
>>>
>>> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>>>
>>> *From:*Mahmut TEKER [mailto:teker.mahmut@gmail.com**]
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 9 May 2012 8:49 AM
>>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.**apache.org<op...@incubator.apache.org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: <red5httpport>80</**red5httpport>
>>>
>>> Hi George,
>>>
>>> I am using OM on port 80 and there is no problem. In fact I could not
>>> understand your problem clearly. Can you post error messages or warnings
>>> in the logs. That would make the issue clearer, I think.
>>>
>>> Moreover, there is an issue that, as I remember right, running
>>> red5/openmeetings on a port below or equal 1200 requires to be root.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> _Mahmut TEKER
>>>
>>> On 5/9/2012 12:23 AM, George Kirkham wrote:
>>>
>>> Stephen,
>>>
>>> The server is only for OpenMeetings, so no Apache running (or
>>> installed), and nothing else on that port.
>>>
>>> I did find the difference, in my first server I was running openMeetings
>>> as the root user, but with subsequent servers I had been using nobody.
>>> Running OpenMeetings under nobody works well for port 5080, but not for
>>> port 80, and I cannot understand why that might be.
>>>
>>> One thing I could try is to create a full account called “openmeetings”
>>> which has a home directory and then try running OpenMeetings under this
>>> account. Sometimes software requires an account with a home directory,
>>> not just a dummy account.
>>>
>>> I believe the issue is related with OpenMeetings code somewhere, as the
>>> Red5 server is running and accepting connections (root), just when you
>>> try to run OpenMeetings itself, that fails.
>>>
>>> If I get success at any time, I will post back, but first I wanted to
>>> learn if anyone was familiar with the issue, and it looks like everyone
>>> else has their OpenMeetings servers either using port 5080 or are
>>> successfully running under ‘nobody’.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> George Kirkham
>>>
>>> IT Manager
>>>
>>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>>>
>>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>>>
>>> T: (02) 6120 1600
>>>
>>> F: (02) 6273 7181
>>>
>>> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au**>,
>>>
>>> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>>>
>>> *From:*Stephen Cottham [mailto:Stephen.Cottham@**robertbird.com.au<St...@robertbird.com.au>
>>> ]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:34 PM
>>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.**apache.org<op...@incubator.apache.org>
>>> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
>>> >
>>> *Subject:* RE: <red5httpport>80</**red5httpport>
>>>
>>> You aren’t using Apache on the new Debian server are you?
>>>
>>> If Apache is running on port 80 then they will conflict.
>>>
>>> To aid in finding the problem, If you go here
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/red5
>>>
>>> Then chmod 755 red5-debug.sh
>>>
>>> Then start it using the debug mode
>>>
>>> ./red5-debug.sh
>>>
>>> This will tell you more about why its failing to start.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> *Stephen Cottham**
>>> *Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>>
>>> Robert Bird Group
>>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
>>>
>>> *Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)*
>>>
>>> *Phone: +44207 592 8000 (UK)*
>>>
>>> *Fax: +6173 319 2799*
>>>
>>> *Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)*
>>>
>>> *Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)*
>>>
>>> *Web: **www.robertbird.com* <http://www.robertbird.com/>
>>>
>>> <http://www.robertbird.com.au/**>
>>>
>>> This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain legally
>>> privileged information or copyright material. Unless expressly stated,
>>> confidentiality and/or legal privilege is not intended to be waived by
>>> the sending of this email. The contents of this email, including any
>>> attachments, are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity
>>> to whom they are addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, please
>>> contact us immediately by return email and then delete both messages.
>>> You may not otherwise read, forward, copy, use or disclose this email or
>>> any attachments. Any views expressed in this email are those of the
>>> individual sender except where the sender expressly, and with authority,
>>> states otherwise. It is your responsibility to check any attachments for
>>> viruses or defects before opening or sending them on. None of the sender
>>> or its related entities accepts any liability for any consequential
>>> damage resulting from this email containing computer viruses.
>>>
>>>
>>> Disclaimer added by *CodeTwo Exchange Rules*
>>> www.codetwo.com <http://www.codetwo.com>
>>>
>>> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au**]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 1:24 PM
>>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.**apache.org<op...@incubator.apache.org>
>>> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
>>> >
>>> *Subject:* <red5httpport>80</**red5httpport>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Has anyone had success/issues with using port 80 instead of port 5080.
>>>
>>> I have a number of Debian OpenMeetings servers. The first that I built I
>>> have configured using port 80 instead of port 5080, and all works well.
>>>
>>> Since that time I have built a few more Debian OpenMeetings servers and
>>> I cannot get any of them to work with port 80. I really do not think the
>>> issue is with OpenMeetings or its configuration, because I can copy the
>>> entire “red5” folder from the new servers to the first (working) server
>>> and it will work on port 80.
>>>
>>> I am hoping that someone may have had similar issues and knows how to
>>> resolved it.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> George Kirkham
>>>
>>> IT Manager
>>>
>>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>>>
>>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>>>
>>> T: (02) 6120 1600
>>>
>>> F: (02) 6273 7181
>>>
>>> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au**>,
>>>
>>> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>>>
>>> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au**]
>>> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 9:19 PM
>>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.**apache.org<op...@incubator.apache.org>
>>> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
>>> >
>>> *Subject:* RE: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
>>>
>>> Thanks, Sebastian for your comments. It is good to know.
>>>
>>> George Kirkham
>>>
>>> *From:*seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
>>> [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 5:23 PM
>>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.**apache.org<op...@incubator.apache.org>
>>> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
>>> >
>>> *Subject:* Re: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
>>>
>>> Hi George,
>>>
>>> What is it that I should add to all the other language files?
>>> => It makes it more easy to give a complete (but not fully translated)
>>> file to translators. Lots of people tend to just download the
>>> language-xml file and translate that. If those files are all incomplete
>>> or certain labels are missing that this is just too confusing.
>>>
>>> The same English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other
>>> languages
>>> modify for the languages that they are proficient in?
>>> => Yes you can fill them up in English and hope that some translators
>>> will look into that file. Of course it might take months or even years
>>> until really all languages are filled up. You could also use
>>> translate.google.com <http://translate.google.com> and look for a
>>> translation.
>>>
>>> Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to follow,
>>> if so, please let me know.
>>> => If you edit the XML files please don't add linebreaks (some editors
>>> do that automatically), if you want to include a "save" linebreak you
>>> would actually enter something like this:
>>>
>>> <br/>
>>>
>>> (this is XML encoded HTML linebreak "<br/>")
>>>
>>>
>>> Sebastian
>>>
>>> 2012/5/6 George Kirkham <gkirkham@co2crc.com.au
>>> <mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au**>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language files
>>> ?
>>>
>>> I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common
>>> (undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You can
>>> fill up other language files the english one. However all language files
>>> should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset."
>>>
>>> What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same
>>> English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
>>> modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is there a way to
>>> ask others to check and update any languages that they are proficient
>>> in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to
>>> follow, if so, please let me know.
>>>
>>> I noticed that the Japanese file has
>>> <string id="262" name="salutation_miss">
>>> <value>Ms.</value>
>>> </string>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> George Kirkham
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_**lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock><
>>> https://twitter.com/#%21/**dead_lock<https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
>>> >
>>> http://www.openmeetings.de
>>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.**com <http://www.wagner-sebastian.com>
>>> seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>
Re: 80
Posted by brian mullan <bm...@gmail.com>.
Sergey
I think you meant to say if you run service on port *=< 1024* you need root
privilages
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Sergey Kobzar <se...@itcraft.org>wrote:
> On Linux to run service on port >1024 you need root privileges. Non-root
> users can run services on ports >1024.
>
> http://www.staldal.nu/tech/**2007/10/31/why-can-only-root-**
> listen-to-ports-below-1024/<http://www.staldal.nu/tech/2007/10/31/why-can-only-root-listen-to-ports-below-1024/>for example...
>
> On 05/09/12 02:25, George Kirkham wrote:
>
>> Mahmut,
>>
>> Thanks for your comments, the configuration that I am using is below,
>> are these settings the same or similar to how you run OpenMeetings or
>> port 80 ? If you don’t mind sharing, what is your server’s OS?, and what
>> would be your configuration settings that gets OpenMeetings to run on
>> port 80 instead of port 5080 ? Maybe there are other areas that I need
>> to modify other that the two that I am currently changing.
>>
>> /etc/init.d/red5
>>
>> start-stop-daemon --start -c nobody --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir
>> $RED5_HOME --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null
>> 2>/dev/null &
>>
>> /usr/lib/red5/conf/red5.**properties
>>
>> # HTTP
>>
>> http.host=0.0.0.0
>>
>> http.port=80
>>
>> https.port=8443
>>
>> http.URIEncoding=UTF-8
>>
>> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/**openmeetings/config.xml
>>
>> <red5httpport>80</**red5httpport>
>>
>> I run OpenMeetings using http://mydomain.com.au/ and it will redirect to
>> http://mydomain.com.au/**openmeetings<http://mydomain.com.au/openmeetings>but then there is no response from
>> the server.
>>
>> I am getting no error information from the log files.
>>
>> When I do netstat -anp | grep java
>>
>> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 4044/soffice.bin
>>
>> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 22175 4044/soffice.bin
>> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_**SingleOfficeIPC_**44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4**fb
>>
>> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 4051/java
>>
>> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 4051/java
>>
>> However when I run as root user, then all works, see below for “netstat
>> -anp | grep java”
>>
>> /etc/init.d/red5
>>
>> start-stop-daemon --start -c root --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir $RED5_HOME
>> --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null 2>/dev/null &
>>
>> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3880/soffice.bin
>>
>> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 21314 3880/soffice.bin
>> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_**SingleOfficeIPC_**44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4**fb
>>
>> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>>
>> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>>
>> tcp6 0 0 :::8080 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>>
>> tcp6 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>>
>> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57440 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java
>>
>> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57443 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java
>>
>> unix 2 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 21818 3887/java
>>
>> If I
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> George Kirkham
>>
>> IT Manager
>>
>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>>
>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>>
>> T: (02) 6120 1600
>>
>> F: (02) 6273 7181
>>
>> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au**>,
>>
>> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>>
>> *From:*Mahmut TEKER [mailto:teker.mahmut@gmail.com**]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 9 May 2012 8:49 AM
>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.**apache.org<op...@incubator.apache.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: <red5httpport>80</**red5httpport>
>>
>> Hi George,
>>
>> I am using OM on port 80 and there is no problem. In fact I could not
>> understand your problem clearly. Can you post error messages or warnings
>> in the logs. That would make the issue clearer, I think.
>>
>> Moreover, there is an issue that, as I remember right, running
>> red5/openmeetings on a port below or equal 1200 requires to be root.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> _Mahmut TEKER
>>
>> On 5/9/2012 12:23 AM, George Kirkham wrote:
>>
>> Stephen,
>>
>> The server is only for OpenMeetings, so no Apache running (or
>> installed), and nothing else on that port.
>>
>> I did find the difference, in my first server I was running openMeetings
>> as the root user, but with subsequent servers I had been using nobody.
>> Running OpenMeetings under nobody works well for port 5080, but not for
>> port 80, and I cannot understand why that might be.
>>
>> One thing I could try is to create a full account called “openmeetings”
>> which has a home directory and then try running OpenMeetings under this
>> account. Sometimes software requires an account with a home directory,
>> not just a dummy account.
>>
>> I believe the issue is related with OpenMeetings code somewhere, as the
>> Red5 server is running and accepting connections (root), just when you
>> try to run OpenMeetings itself, that fails.
>>
>> If I get success at any time, I will post back, but first I wanted to
>> learn if anyone was familiar with the issue, and it looks like everyone
>> else has their OpenMeetings servers either using port 5080 or are
>> successfully running under ‘nobody’.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> George Kirkham
>>
>> IT Manager
>>
>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>>
>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>>
>> T: (02) 6120 1600
>>
>> F: (02) 6273 7181
>>
>> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au**>,
>>
>> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>>
>> *From:*Stephen Cottham [mailto:Stephen.Cottham@**robertbird.com.au<St...@robertbird.com.au>
>> ]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:34 PM
>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.**apache.org<op...@incubator.apache.org>
>> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
>> >
>> *Subject:* RE: <red5httpport>80</**red5httpport>
>>
>> You aren’t using Apache on the new Debian server are you?
>>
>> If Apache is running on port 80 then they will conflict.
>>
>> To aid in finding the problem, If you go here
>>
>> /usr/lib/red5
>>
>> Then chmod 755 red5-debug.sh
>>
>> Then start it using the debug mode
>>
>> ./red5-debug.sh
>>
>> This will tell you more about why its failing to start.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> *Stephen Cottham**
>> *Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>
>> Robert Bird Group
>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
>>
>> *Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)*
>>
>> *Phone: +44207 592 8000 (UK)*
>>
>> *Fax: +6173 319 2799*
>>
>> *Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)*
>>
>> *Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)*
>>
>> *Web: **www.robertbird.com* <http://www.robertbird.com/>
>>
>> <http://www.robertbird.com.au/**>
>>
>> This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain legally
>> privileged information or copyright material. Unless expressly stated,
>> confidentiality and/or legal privilege is not intended to be waived by
>> the sending of this email. The contents of this email, including any
>> attachments, are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity
>> to whom they are addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, please
>> contact us immediately by return email and then delete both messages.
>> You may not otherwise read, forward, copy, use or disclose this email or
>> any attachments. Any views expressed in this email are those of the
>> individual sender except where the sender expressly, and with authority,
>> states otherwise. It is your responsibility to check any attachments for
>> viruses or defects before opening or sending them on. None of the sender
>> or its related entities accepts any liability for any consequential
>> damage resulting from this email containing computer viruses.
>>
>>
>> Disclaimer added by *CodeTwo Exchange Rules*
>> www.codetwo.com <http://www.codetwo.com>
>>
>> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au**]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 1:24 PM
>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.**apache.org<op...@incubator.apache.org>
>> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
>> >
>> *Subject:* <red5httpport>80</**red5httpport>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Has anyone had success/issues with using port 80 instead of port 5080.
>>
>> I have a number of Debian OpenMeetings servers. The first that I built I
>> have configured using port 80 instead of port 5080, and all works well.
>>
>> Since that time I have built a few more Debian OpenMeetings servers and
>> I cannot get any of them to work with port 80. I really do not think the
>> issue is with OpenMeetings or its configuration, because I can copy the
>> entire “red5” folder from the new servers to the first (working) server
>> and it will work on port 80.
>>
>> I am hoping that someone may have had similar issues and knows how to
>> resolved it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> George Kirkham
>>
>> IT Manager
>>
>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>>
>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>>
>> T: (02) 6120 1600
>>
>> F: (02) 6273 7181
>>
>> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au**>,
>>
>> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>>
>> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au**]
>> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 9:19 PM
>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.**apache.org<op...@incubator.apache.org>
>> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
>> >
>> *Subject:* RE: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
>>
>> Thanks, Sebastian for your comments. It is good to know.
>>
>> George Kirkham
>>
>> *From:*seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
>> [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 5:23 PM
>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.**apache.org<op...@incubator.apache.org>
>> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
>> >
>> *Subject:* Re: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
>>
>> Hi George,
>>
>> What is it that I should add to all the other language files?
>> => It makes it more easy to give a complete (but not fully translated)
>> file to translators. Lots of people tend to just download the
>> language-xml file and translate that. If those files are all incomplete
>> or certain labels are missing that this is just too confusing.
>>
>> The same English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other
>> languages
>> modify for the languages that they are proficient in?
>> => Yes you can fill them up in English and hope that some translators
>> will look into that file. Of course it might take months or even years
>> until really all languages are filled up. You could also use
>> translate.google.com <http://translate.google.com> and look for a
>> translation.
>>
>> Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to follow,
>> if so, please let me know.
>> => If you edit the XML files please don't add linebreaks (some editors
>> do that automatically), if you want to include a "save" linebreak you
>> would actually enter something like this:
>>
>> <br/>
>>
>> (this is XML encoded HTML linebreak "<br/>")
>>
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>> 2012/5/6 George Kirkham <gkirkham@co2crc.com.au
>> <mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au**>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language files
>> ?
>>
>> I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common
>> (undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You can
>> fill up other language files the english one. However all language files
>> should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset."
>>
>> What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same
>> English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
>> modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is there a way to
>> ask others to check and update any languages that they are proficient
>> in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to
>> follow, if so, please let me know.
>>
>> I noticed that the Japanese file has
>> <string id="262" name="salutation_miss">
>> <value>Ms.</value>
>> </string>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> George Kirkham
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_**lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock> <
>> https://twitter.com/#%21/**dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
>> >
>> http://www.openmeetings.de
>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.**com <http://www.wagner-sebastian.com>
>> seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
>>
>>
Re: 80
Posted by Sergey Kobzar <se...@itcraft.org>.
George
I'm sorry - read
"On Linux to run service on port >1024 you need root privileges"
as
"On Linux to run service on port <1024 you need root privileges"
please.
In other words ordinary users can not run services listening ports below
1024.
On 05/09/12 23:20, George Kirkham wrote:
> Sergey,
>
> Thanks,for your information. Good to know I don't have anything wrong
> with my config.
>
> George Kirkham
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sergey Kobzar [mailto:sergey.kobzar@itcraft.org]
> Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2012 5:42 AM
> To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re:<red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
> On Linux to run service on port>1024 you need root privileges. Non-root
> users can run services on ports>1024.
>
> http://www.staldal.nu/tech/2007/10/31/why-can-only-root-listen-to-ports-
> below-1024/
> for example...
>
> On 05/09/12 02:25, George Kirkham wrote:
>> Mahmut,
>>
>> Thanks for your comments, the configuration that I am using is below,
>> are these settings the same or similar to how you run OpenMeetings or
>> port 80 ? If you don't mind sharing, what is your server's OS?, and
>> what would be your configuration settings that gets OpenMeetings to
>> run on port 80 instead of port 5080 ? Maybe there are other areas that
>
>> I need to modify other that the two that I am currently changing.
>>
>> /etc/init.d/red5
>>
>> start-stop-daemon --start -c nobody --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir
>> $RED5_HOME --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON>/dev/null
>> 2>/dev/null&
>>
>> /usr/lib/red5/conf/red5.properties
>>
>> # HTTP
>>
>> http.host=0.0.0.0
>>
>> http.port=80
>>
>> https.port=8443
>>
>> http.URIEncoding=UTF-8
>>
>> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/config.xml
>>
>> <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>>
>> I run OpenMeetings using http://mydomain.com.au/ and it will redirect
>> to http://mydomain.com.au/openmeetings but then there is no response
>> from the server.
>>
>> I am getting no error information from the log files.
>>
>> When I do netstat -anp | grep java
>>
>> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 4044/soffice.bin
>>
>> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 22175 4044/soffice.bin
>> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb
>>
>> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 4051/java
>>
>> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 4051/java
>>
>> However when I run as root user, then all works, see below for
>> "netstat -anp | grep java"
>>
>> /etc/init.d/red5
>>
>> start-stop-daemon --start -c root --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir
>> $RED5_HOME --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON>/dev/null
>> 2>/dev/null&
>>
>> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3880/soffice.bin
>>
>> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 21314 3880/soffice.bin
>> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb
>>
>> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>>
>> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>>
>> tcp6 0 0 :::8080 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>>
>> tcp6 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>>
>> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57440 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java
>>
>> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57443 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java
>>
>> unix 2 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 21818 3887/java
>>
>> If I
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> George Kirkham
>>
>> IT Manager
>>
>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>>
>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>>
>> T: (02) 6120 1600
>>
>> F: (02) 6273 7181
>>
>> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au<ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
>>
>> W: www.co2crc.com.au<http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>>
>> *From:*Mahmut TEKER [mailto:teker.mahmut@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 9 May 2012 8:49 AM
>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>> *Subject:* Re:<red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>>
>> Hi George,
>>
>> I am using OM on port 80 and there is no problem. In fact I could not
>> understand your problem clearly. Can you post error messages or
>> warnings in the logs. That would make the issue clearer, I think.
>>
>> Moreover, there is an issue that, as I remember right, running
>> red5/openmeetings on a port below or equal 1200 requires to be root.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> _Mahmut TEKER
>>
>> On 5/9/2012 12:23 AM, George Kirkham wrote:
>>
>> Stephen,
>>
>> The server is only for OpenMeetings, so no Apache running (or
>> installed), and nothing else on that port.
>>
>> I did find the difference, in my first server I was running
>> openMeetings as the root user, but with subsequent servers I had been
> using nobody.
>> Running OpenMeetings under nobody works well for port 5080, but not
>> for port 80, and I cannot understand why that might be.
>>
>> One thing I could try is to create a full account called
> "openmeetings"
>> which has a home directory and then try running OpenMeetings under
>> this account. Sometimes software requires an account with a home
>> directory, not just a dummy account.
>>
>> I believe the issue is related with OpenMeetings code somewhere, as
>> the
>> Red5 server is running and accepting connections (root), just when you
>
>> try to run OpenMeetings itself, that fails.
>>
>> If I get success at any time, I will post back, but first I wanted to
>> learn if anyone was familiar with the issue, and it looks like
>> everyone else has their OpenMeetings servers either using port 5080 or
>
>> are successfully running under 'nobody'.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> George Kirkham
>>
>> IT Manager
>>
>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>>
>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>>
>> T: (02) 6120 1600
>>
>> F: (02) 6273 7181
>>
>> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au<ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
>>
>> W: www.co2crc.com.au<http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>>
>> *From:*Stephen Cottham [mailto:Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:34 PM
>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
>> *Subject:* RE:<red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>>
>> You aren't using Apache on the new Debian server are you?
>>
>> If Apache is running on port 80 then they will conflict.
>>
>> To aid in finding the problem, If you go here
>>
>> /usr/lib/red5
>>
>> Then chmod 755 red5-debug.sh
>>
>> Then start it using the debug mode
>>
>> ./red5-debug.sh
>>
>> This will tell you more about why its failing to start.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> *Stephen Cottham**
>> *Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>
>> Robert Bird Group
>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
>>
>> *Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)*
>>
>> *Phone: +44207 592 8000 (UK)*
>>
>> *Fax: +6173 319 2799*
>>
>> *Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)*
>>
>> *Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)*
>>
>> *Web: **www.robertbird.com*<http://www.robertbird.com/>
>>
>> <http://www.robertbird.com.au/>
>>
>> This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain
>> legally privileged information or copyright material. Unless expressly
>
>> stated, confidentiality and/or legal privilege is not intended to be
>> waived by the sending of this email. The contents of this email,
>> including any attachments, are intended solely for the use of the
>> individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not an
>> intended recipient, please contact us immediately by return email and
> then delete both messages.
>> You may not otherwise read, forward, copy, use or disclose this email
>> or any attachments. Any views expressed in this email are those of the
>
>> individual sender except where the sender expressly, and with
>> authority, states otherwise. It is your responsibility to check any
>> attachments for viruses or defects before opening or sending them on.
>> None of the sender or its related entities accepts any liability for
>> any consequential damage resulting from this email containing computer
> viruses.
>>
>>
>> Disclaimer added by *CodeTwo Exchange Rules* www.codetwo.com
>> <http://www.codetwo.com>
>>
>> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 1:24 PM
>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
>> *Subject:*<red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Has anyone had success/issues with using port 80 instead of port 5080.
>>
>> I have a number of Debian OpenMeetings servers. The first that I built
>
>> I have configured using port 80 instead of port 5080, and all works
> well.
>>
>> Since that time I have built a few more Debian OpenMeetings servers
>> and I cannot get any of them to work with port 80. I really do not
>> think the issue is with OpenMeetings or its configuration, because I
>> can copy the entire "red5" folder from the new servers to the first
>> (working) server and it will work on port 80.
>>
>> I am hoping that someone may have had similar issues and knows how to
>> resolved it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> George Kirkham
>>
>> IT Manager
>>
>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>>
>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>>
>> T: (02) 6120 1600
>>
>> F: (02) 6273 7181
>>
>> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au<ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
>>
>> W: www.co2crc.com.au<http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>>
>> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
>> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 9:19 PM
>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
>> *Subject:* RE: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
>>
>> Thanks, Sebastian for your comments. It is good to know.
>>
>> George Kirkham
>>
>> *From:*seba.wagner@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com>
>> [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 5:23 PM
>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
>>
>> Hi George,
>>
>> What is it that I should add to all the other language files?
>> => It makes it more easy to give a complete (but not fully translated)
>
>> file to translators. Lots of people tend to just download the
>> language-xml file and translate that. If those files are all
>> incomplete or certain labels are missing that this is just too
> confusing.
>>
>> The same English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other
>
>> languages modify for the languages that they are proficient in?
>> => Yes you can fill them up in English and hope that some translators
>> will look into that file. Of course it might take months or even years
>
>> until really all languages are filled up. You could also use
>> translate.google.com<http://translate.google.com> and look for a
>> translation.
>>
>> Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to follow,
>
>> if so, please let me know.
>> => If you edit the XML files please don't add linebreaks (some editors
>
>> do that automatically), if you want to include a "save" linebreak you
>> would actually enter something like this:
>>
>> <br/>
>>
>> (this is XML encoded HTML linebreak "<br/>")
>>
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>> 2012/5/6 George Kirkham<gkirkham@co2crc.com.au
>> <ma...@co2crc.com.au>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language
>> files ?
>>
>> I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common
>> (undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You
>> can fill up other language files the english one. However all language
>
>> files should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset."
>>
>> What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same
>
>> English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other
>> languages modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is
>> there a way to ask others to check and update any languages that they
>> are proficient in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be
>> good for me to follow, if so, please let me know.
>>
>> I noticed that the Japanese file has
>> <string id="262" name="salutation_miss"> <value>Ms.</value> </string>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> George Kirkham
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock<https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
>> http://www.openmeetings.de
>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>> seba.wagner@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com>
>>
>
RE: 80
Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Sergey,
Thanks,for your information. Good to know I don't have anything wrong
with my config.
George Kirkham
-----Original Message-----
From: Sergey Kobzar [mailto:sergey.kobzar@itcraft.org]
Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2012 5:42 AM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
On Linux to run service on port >1024 you need root privileges. Non-root
users can run services on ports >1024.
http://www.staldal.nu/tech/2007/10/31/why-can-only-root-listen-to-ports-
below-1024/
for example...
On 05/09/12 02:25, George Kirkham wrote:
> Mahmut,
>
> Thanks for your comments, the configuration that I am using is below,
> are these settings the same or similar to how you run OpenMeetings or
> port 80 ? If you don't mind sharing, what is your server's OS?, and
> what would be your configuration settings that gets OpenMeetings to
> run on port 80 instead of port 5080 ? Maybe there are other areas that
> I need to modify other that the two that I am currently changing.
>
> /etc/init.d/red5
>
> start-stop-daemon --start -c nobody --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir
> $RED5_HOME --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null
> 2>/dev/null &
>
> /usr/lib/red5/conf/red5.properties
>
> # HTTP
>
> http.host=0.0.0.0
>
> http.port=80
>
> https.port=8443
>
> http.URIEncoding=UTF-8
>
> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/config.xml
>
> <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
> I run OpenMeetings using http://mydomain.com.au/ and it will redirect
> to http://mydomain.com.au/openmeetings but then there is no response
> from the server.
>
> I am getting no error information from the log files.
>
> When I do netstat -anp | grep java
>
> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 4044/soffice.bin
>
> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 22175 4044/soffice.bin
> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 4051/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 4051/java
>
> However when I run as root user, then all works, see below for
> "netstat -anp | grep java"
>
> /etc/init.d/red5
>
> start-stop-daemon --start -c root --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir
> $RED5_HOME --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null
> 2>/dev/null &
>
> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3880/soffice.bin
>
> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 21314 3880/soffice.bin
> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::8080 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57440 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57443 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java
>
> unix 2 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 21818 3887/java
>
> If I
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
> IT Manager
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>
> *From:*Mahmut TEKER [mailto:teker.mahmut@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 9 May 2012 8:49 AM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
> Hi George,
>
> I am using OM on port 80 and there is no problem. In fact I could not
> understand your problem clearly. Can you post error messages or
> warnings in the logs. That would make the issue clearer, I think.
>
> Moreover, there is an issue that, as I remember right, running
> red5/openmeetings on a port below or equal 1200 requires to be root.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> _Mahmut TEKER
>
> On 5/9/2012 12:23 AM, George Kirkham wrote:
>
> Stephen,
>
> The server is only for OpenMeetings, so no Apache running (or
> installed), and nothing else on that port.
>
> I did find the difference, in my first server I was running
> openMeetings as the root user, but with subsequent servers I had been
using nobody.
> Running OpenMeetings under nobody works well for port 5080, but not
> for port 80, and I cannot understand why that might be.
>
> One thing I could try is to create a full account called
"openmeetings"
> which has a home directory and then try running OpenMeetings under
> this account. Sometimes software requires an account with a home
> directory, not just a dummy account.
>
> I believe the issue is related with OpenMeetings code somewhere, as
> the
> Red5 server is running and accepting connections (root), just when you
> try to run OpenMeetings itself, that fails.
>
> If I get success at any time, I will post back, but first I wanted to
> learn if anyone was familiar with the issue, and it looks like
> everyone else has their OpenMeetings servers either using port 5080 or
> are successfully running under 'nobody'.
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
> IT Manager
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>
> *From:*Stephen Cottham [mailto:Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:34 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject:* RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
> You aren't using Apache on the new Debian server are you?
>
> If Apache is running on port 80 then they will conflict.
>
> To aid in finding the problem, If you go here
>
> /usr/lib/red5
>
> Then chmod 755 red5-debug.sh
>
> Then start it using the debug mode
>
> ./red5-debug.sh
>
> This will tell you more about why its failing to start.
>
> Cheers
>
> *Stephen Cottham**
> *Group IT Manager (Associate)
>
> Robert Bird Group
> Level 5, 333 Ann St
> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
>
> *Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)*
>
> *Phone: +44207 592 8000 (UK)*
>
> *Fax: +6173 319 2799*
>
> *Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)*
>
> *Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)*
>
> *Web: **www.robertbird.com* <http://www.robertbird.com/>
>
> <http://www.robertbird.com.au/>
>
> This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain
> legally privileged information or copyright material. Unless expressly
> stated, confidentiality and/or legal privilege is not intended to be
> waived by the sending of this email. The contents of this email,
> including any attachments, are intended solely for the use of the
> individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not an
> intended recipient, please contact us immediately by return email and
then delete both messages.
> You may not otherwise read, forward, copy, use or disclose this email
> or any attachments. Any views expressed in this email are those of the
> individual sender except where the sender expressly, and with
> authority, states otherwise. It is your responsibility to check any
> attachments for viruses or defects before opening or sending them on.
> None of the sender or its related entities accepts any liability for
> any consequential damage resulting from this email containing computer
viruses.
>
>
> Disclaimer added by *CodeTwo Exchange Rules* www.codetwo.com
> <http://www.codetwo.com>
>
> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 1:24 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject:* <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
> Hi,
>
> Has anyone had success/issues with using port 80 instead of port 5080.
>
> I have a number of Debian OpenMeetings servers. The first that I built
> I have configured using port 80 instead of port 5080, and all works
well.
>
> Since that time I have built a few more Debian OpenMeetings servers
> and I cannot get any of them to work with port 80. I really do not
> think the issue is with OpenMeetings or its configuration, because I
> can copy the entire "red5" folder from the new servers to the first
> (working) server and it will work on port 80.
>
> I am hoping that someone may have had similar issues and knows how to
> resolved it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
> IT Manager
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>
> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 9:19 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject:* RE: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
>
> Thanks, Sebastian for your comments. It is good to know.
>
> George Kirkham
>
> *From:*seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
> [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 5:23 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject:* Re: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
>
> Hi George,
>
> What is it that I should add to all the other language files?
> => It makes it more easy to give a complete (but not fully translated)
> file to translators. Lots of people tend to just download the
> language-xml file and translate that. If those files are all
> incomplete or certain labels are missing that this is just too
confusing.
>
> The same English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other
> languages modify for the languages that they are proficient in?
> => Yes you can fill them up in English and hope that some translators
> will look into that file. Of course it might take months or even years
> until really all languages are filled up. You could also use
> translate.google.com <http://translate.google.com> and look for a
> translation.
>
> Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to follow,
> if so, please let me know.
> => If you edit the XML files please don't add linebreaks (some editors
> do that automatically), if you want to include a "save" linebreak you
> would actually enter something like this:
>
> <br/>
>
> (this is XML encoded HTML linebreak "<br/>")
>
>
> Sebastian
>
> 2012/5/6 George Kirkham <gkirkham@co2crc.com.au
> <ma...@co2crc.com.au>>
>
> Hi,
>
> What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language
> files ?
>
> I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common
> (undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You
> can fill up other language files the english one. However all language
> files should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset."
>
> What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same
> English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other
> languages modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is
> there a way to ask others to check and update any languages that they
> are proficient in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be
> good for me to follow, if so, please let me know.
>
> I noticed that the Japanese file has
> <string id="262" name="salutation_miss"> <value>Ms.</value> </string>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
> http://www.openmeetings.de
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
>
Re: 80
Posted by Sergey Kobzar <se...@itcraft.org>.
On Linux to run service on port >1024 you need root privileges. Non-root
users can run services on ports >1024.
http://www.staldal.nu/tech/2007/10/31/why-can-only-root-listen-to-ports-below-1024/
for example...
On 05/09/12 02:25, George Kirkham wrote:
> Mahmut,
>
> Thanks for your comments, the configuration that I am using is below,
> are these settings the same or similar to how you run OpenMeetings or
> port 80 ? If you don’t mind sharing, what is your server’s OS?, and what
> would be your configuration settings that gets OpenMeetings to run on
> port 80 instead of port 5080 ? Maybe there are other areas that I need
> to modify other that the two that I am currently changing.
>
> /etc/init.d/red5
>
> start-stop-daemon --start -c nobody --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir
> $RED5_HOME --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null
> 2>/dev/null &
>
> /usr/lib/red5/conf/red5.properties
>
> # HTTP
>
> http.host=0.0.0.0
>
> http.port=80
>
> https.port=8443
>
> http.URIEncoding=UTF-8
>
> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/config.xml
>
> <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
> I run OpenMeetings using http://mydomain.com.au/ and it will redirect to
> http://mydomain.com.au/openmeetings but then there is no response from
> the server.
>
> I am getting no error information from the log files.
>
> When I do netstat -anp | grep java
>
> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 4044/soffice.bin
>
> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 22175 4044/soffice.bin
> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 4051/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 4051/java
>
> However when I run as root user, then all works, see below for “netstat
> -anp | grep java”
>
> /etc/init.d/red5
>
> start-stop-daemon --start -c root --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir $RED5_HOME
> --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null 2>/dev/null &
>
> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3880/soffice.bin
>
> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 21314 3880/soffice.bin
> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::8080 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57440 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java
>
> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57443 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java
>
> unix 2 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 21818 3887/java
>
> If I
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
> IT Manager
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>
> *From:*Mahmut TEKER [mailto:teker.mahmut@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 9 May 2012 8:49 AM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
> Hi George,
>
> I am using OM on port 80 and there is no problem. In fact I could not
> understand your problem clearly. Can you post error messages or warnings
> in the logs. That would make the issue clearer, I think.
>
> Moreover, there is an issue that, as I remember right, running
> red5/openmeetings on a port below or equal 1200 requires to be root.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> _Mahmut TEKER
>
> On 5/9/2012 12:23 AM, George Kirkham wrote:
>
> Stephen,
>
> The server is only for OpenMeetings, so no Apache running (or
> installed), and nothing else on that port.
>
> I did find the difference, in my first server I was running openMeetings
> as the root user, but with subsequent servers I had been using nobody.
> Running OpenMeetings under nobody works well for port 5080, but not for
> port 80, and I cannot understand why that might be.
>
> One thing I could try is to create a full account called “openmeetings”
> which has a home directory and then try running OpenMeetings under this
> account. Sometimes software requires an account with a home directory,
> not just a dummy account.
>
> I believe the issue is related with OpenMeetings code somewhere, as the
> Red5 server is running and accepting connections (root), just when you
> try to run OpenMeetings itself, that fails.
>
> If I get success at any time, I will post back, but first I wanted to
> learn if anyone was familiar with the issue, and it looks like everyone
> else has their OpenMeetings servers either using port 5080 or are
> successfully running under ‘nobody’.
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
> IT Manager
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>
> *From:*Stephen Cottham [mailto:Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:34 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject:* RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
> You aren’t using Apache on the new Debian server are you?
>
> If Apache is running on port 80 then they will conflict.
>
> To aid in finding the problem, If you go here
>
> /usr/lib/red5
>
> Then chmod 755 red5-debug.sh
>
> Then start it using the debug mode
>
> ./red5-debug.sh
>
> This will tell you more about why its failing to start.
>
> Cheers
>
> *Stephen Cottham**
> *Group IT Manager (Associate)
>
> Robert Bird Group
> Level 5, 333 Ann St
> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
>
> *Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)*
>
> *Phone: +44207 592 8000 (UK)*
>
> *Fax: +6173 319 2799*
>
> *Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)*
>
> *Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)*
>
> *Web: **www.robertbird.com* <http://www.robertbird.com/>
>
> <http://www.robertbird.com.au/>
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> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 1:24 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject:* <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
> Hi,
>
> Has anyone had success/issues with using port 80 instead of port 5080.
>
> I have a number of Debian OpenMeetings servers. The first that I built I
> have configured using port 80 instead of port 5080, and all works well.
>
> Since that time I have built a few more Debian OpenMeetings servers and
> I cannot get any of them to work with port 80. I really do not think the
> issue is with OpenMeetings or its configuration, because I can copy the
> entire “red5” folder from the new servers to the first (working) server
> and it will work on port 80.
>
> I am hoping that someone may have had similar issues and knows how to
> resolved it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
> IT Manager
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>
> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 9:19 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject:* RE: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
>
> Thanks, Sebastian for your comments. It is good to know.
>
> George Kirkham
>
> *From:*seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
> [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 5:23 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject:* Re: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
>
> Hi George,
>
> What is it that I should add to all the other language files?
> => It makes it more easy to give a complete (but not fully translated)
> file to translators. Lots of people tend to just download the
> language-xml file and translate that. If those files are all incomplete
> or certain labels are missing that this is just too confusing.
>
> The same English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other
> languages
> modify for the languages that they are proficient in?
> => Yes you can fill them up in English and hope that some translators
> will look into that file. Of course it might take months or even years
> until really all languages are filled up. You could also use
> translate.google.com <http://translate.google.com> and look for a
> translation.
>
> Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to follow,
> if so, please let me know.
> => If you edit the XML files please don't add linebreaks (some editors
> do that automatically), if you want to include a "save" linebreak you
> would actually enter something like this:
>
> <br/>
>
> (this is XML encoded HTML linebreak "<br/>")
>
>
> Sebastian
>
> 2012/5/6 George Kirkham <gkirkham@co2crc.com.au
> <ma...@co2crc.com.au>>
>
> Hi,
>
> What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language files
> ?
>
> I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common
> (undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You can
> fill up other language files the english one. However all language files
> should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset."
>
> What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same
> English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
> modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is there a way to
> ask others to check and update any languages that they are proficient
> in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to
> follow, if so, please let me know.
>
> I noticed that the Japanese file has
> <string id="262" name="salutation_miss">
> <value>Ms.</value>
> </string>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
> http://www.openmeetings.de
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
>
RE: 80
Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Mahmut,
Thanks for your comments, the configuration that I am using is below,
are these settings the same or similar to how you run OpenMeetings or
port 80 ? If you don't mind sharing, what is your server's OS?, and
what would be your configuration settings that gets OpenMeetings to run
on port 80 instead of port 5080 ? Maybe there are other areas that I
need to modify other that the two that I am currently changing.
/etc/init.d/red5
start-stop-daemon --start -c nobody --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir
$RED5_HOME --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null
2>/dev/null &
/usr/lib/red5/conf/red5.properties
# HTTP
http.host=0.0.0.0
http.port=80
https.port=8443
http.URIEncoding=UTF-8
/usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/config.xml
<red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
I run OpenMeetings using http://mydomain.com.au/ and it will redirect to
http://mydomain.com.au/openmeetings but then there is no response from
the server.
I am getting no error information from the log files.
When I do netstat -anp | grep java
tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:*
LISTEN 4044/soffice.bin
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 22175
4044/soffice.bin
/tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb
tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::*
LISTEN 4051/java
tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::*
LISTEN 4051/java
However when I run as root user, then all works, see below for "netstat
-anp | grep java"
/etc/init.d/red5
start-stop-daemon --start -c root --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir
$RED5_HOME --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null
2>/dev/null &
tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:*
LISTEN 3880/soffice.bin
unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 21314
3880/soffice.bin
/tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb
tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::*
LISTEN 3887/java
tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::*
LISTEN 3887/java
tcp6 0 0 :::8080 :::*
LISTEN 3887/java
tcp6 0 0 :::80 :::*
LISTEN 3887/java
tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57440 192.168.1.123:3306
ESTABLISHED 3887/java
tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57443 192.168.1.123:3306
ESTABLISHED 3887/java
unix 2 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 21818 3887/java
If I
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
W: www.co2crc.com.au
From: Mahmut TEKER [mailto:teker.mahmut@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 9 May 2012 8:49 AM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
Hi George,
I am using OM on port 80 and there is no problem. In fact I could not
understand your problem clearly. Can you post error messages or warnings
in the logs. That would make the issue clearer, I think.
Moreover, there is an issue that, as I remember right, running
red5/openmeetings on a port below or equal 1200 requires to be root.
Regards,
_Mahmut TEKER
On 5/9/2012 12:23 AM, George Kirkham wrote:
Stephen,
The server is only for OpenMeetings, so no Apache running (or
installed), and nothing else on that port.
I did find the difference, in my first server I was running openMeetings
as the root user, but with subsequent servers I had been using nobody.
Running OpenMeetings under nobody works well for port 5080, but not for
port 80, and I cannot understand why that might be.
One thing I could try is to create a full account called "openmeetings"
which has a home directory and then try running OpenMeetings under this
account. Sometimes software requires an account with a home directory,
not just a dummy account.
I believe the issue is related with OpenMeetings code somewhere, as the
Red5 server is running and accepting connections (root), just when you
try to run OpenMeetings itself, that fails.
If I get success at any time, I will post back, but first I wanted to
learn if anyone was familiar with the issue, and it looks like everyone
else has their OpenMeetings servers either using port 5080 or are
successfully running under 'nobody'.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
W: www.co2crc.com.au
From: Stephen Cottham [mailto:Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:34 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
You aren't using Apache on the new Debian server are you?
If Apache is running on port 80 then they will conflict.
To aid in finding the problem, If you go here
/usr/lib/red5
Then chmod 755 red5-debug.sh
Then start it using the debug mode
./red5-debug.sh
This will tell you more about why its failing to start.
Cheers
Stephen Cottham
Group IT Manager (Associate)
Robert Bird Group
Level 5, 333 Ann St
Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)
Phone: +44207 592 8000 (UK)
Fax: +6173 319 2799
Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)
Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)
Web: www.robertbird.com <http://www.robertbird.com/>
<http://www.robertbird.com.au/>
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From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 May 2012 1:24 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
Hi,
Has anyone had success/issues with using port 80 instead of port 5080.
I have a number of Debian OpenMeetings servers. The first that I built
I have configured using port 80 instead of port 5080, and all works
well.
Since that time I have built a few more Debian OpenMeetings servers and
I cannot get any of them to work with port 80. I really do not think
the issue is with OpenMeetings or its configuration, because I can copy
the entire "red5" folder from the new servers to the first (working)
server and it will work on port 80.
I am hoping that someone may have had similar issues and knows how to
resolved it.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
W: www.co2crc.com.au
From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
Sent: Monday, 7 May 2012 9:19 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
Thanks, Sebastian for your comments. It is good to know.
George Kirkham
From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 7 May 2012 5:23 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
Hi George,
What is it that I should add to all the other language files?
=> It makes it more easy to give a complete (but not fully translated)
file to translators. Lots of people tend to just download the
language-xml file and translate that. If those files are all incomplete
or certain labels are missing that this is just too confusing.
The same English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other
languages
modify for the languages that they are proficient in?
=> Yes you can fill them up in English and hope that some translators
will look into that file. Of course it might take months or even years
until really all languages are filled up. You could also use
translate.google.com and look for a translation.
Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to follow,
if so, please let me know.
=> If you edit the XML files please don't add linebreaks (some editors
do that automatically), if you want to include a "save" linebreak you
would actually enter something like this:
<br/>
(this is XML encoded HTML linebreak "<br/>")
Sebastian
2012/5/6 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
Hi,
What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language files
?
I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common
(undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You can
fill up other language files the english one. However all language files
should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset."
What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same
English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is there a way to
ask others to check and update any languages that they are proficient
in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to
follow, if so, please let me know.
I noticed that the Japanese file has
<string id="262" name="salutation_miss">
<value>Ms.</value>
</string>
Thanks,
George Kirkham
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de>
http://www.webbase-design.de <http://www.webbase-design.de>
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com <http://www.wagner-sebastian.com>
seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
Re: 80
Posted by Mahmut TEKER <te...@gmail.com>.
Hi George,
I am using OM on port 80 and there is no problem. In fact I could
not understand your problem clearly. Can you post error messages or
warnings in the logs. That would make the issue clearer, I think.
Moreover, there is an issue that, as I remember right, running
red5/openmeetings on a port below or equal 1200 requires to be root.
Regards,
_Mahmut TEKER
On 5/9/2012 12:23 AM, George Kirkham wrote:
>
> Stephen,
>
> The server is only for OpenMeetings, so no Apache running (or
> installed), and nothing else on that port.
>
> I did find the difference, in my first server I was running
> openMeetings as the root user, but with subsequent servers I had been
> using nobody. Running OpenMeetings under nobody works well for port
> 5080, but not for port 80, and I cannot understand why that might be.
>
> One thing I could try is to create a full account called
> "openmeetings" which has a home directory and then try running
> OpenMeetings under this account. Sometimes software requires an
> account with a home directory, not just a dummy account.
>
> I believe the issue is related with OpenMeetings code somewhere, as
> the Red5 server is running and accepting connections (root), just when
> you try to run OpenMeetings itself, that fails.
>
> If I get success at any time, I will post back, but first I wanted to
> learn if anyone was familiar with the issue, and it looks like
> everyone else has their OpenMeetings servers either using port 5080 or
> are successfully running under 'nobody'.
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
> IT Manager
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>
> *From:*Stephen Cottham [mailto:Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:34 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
> You aren't using Apache on the new Debian server are you?
>
> If Apache is running on port 80 then they will conflict.
>
> To aid in finding the problem, If you go here
>
> /usr/lib/red5
>
> Then chmod 755 red5-debug.sh
>
> Then start it using the debug mode
>
> ./red5-debug.sh
>
> This will tell you more about why its failing to start.
>
> Cheers
>
> *Stephen Cottham**
> *Group IT Manager (Associate)
>
> Robert Bird Group
> Level 5, 333 Ann St
> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
>
> *Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)*
>
> *Phone: +44207 592 8000 (UK)*
>
> *Fax: +6173 319 2799*
>
> *Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)*
>
> *Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)*
>
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> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 1:24 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject:* <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
> Hi,
>
> Has anyone had success/issues with using port 80 instead of port 5080.
>
> I have a number of Debian OpenMeetings servers. The first that I
> built I have configured using port 80 instead of port 5080, and all
> works well.
>
> Since that time I have built a few more Debian OpenMeetings servers
> and I cannot get any of them to work with port 80. I really do not
> think the issue is with OpenMeetings or its configuration, because I
> can copy the entire "red5" folder from the new servers to the first
> (working) server and it will work on port 80.
>
> I am hoping that someone may have had similar issues and knows how to
> resolved it.
>
> /usr/lib/red5/conf/red5.properties
>
> # HTTP
>
> http.host=0.0.0.0
>
> http.port=80
>
> https.port=8443
>
> http.URIEncoding=UTF-8
>
> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/config.xml
>
> <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
> IT Manager
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181
>
> E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au <ma...@co2crc.com.au>,
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
>
> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 9:19 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject:* RE: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
>
> Thanks, Sebastian for your comments. It is good to know.
>
> George Kirkham
>
> *From:*seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
> [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 5:23 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> <ma...@incubator.apache.org>
> *Subject:* Re: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
>
> Hi George,
>
> What is it that I should add to all the other language files?
> => It makes it more easy to give a complete (but not fully translated)
> file to translators. Lots of people tend to just download the
> language-xml file and translate that. If those files are all
> incomplete or certain labels are missing that this is just too confusing.
>
> The same English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other
> languages
> modify for the languages that they are proficient in?
> => Yes you can fill them up in English and hope that some translators
> will look into that file. Of course it might take months or even years
> until really all languages are filled up. You could also use
> translate.google.com <http://translate.google.com> and look for a
> translation.
>
> Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to follow,
> if so, please let me know.
> => If you edit the XML files please don't add linebreaks (some editors
> do that automatically), if you want to include a "save" linebreak you
> would actually enter something like this:
>
> <br/>
>
> (this is XML encoded HTML linebreak "<br/>")
>
>
> Sebastian
>
> 2012/5/6 George Kirkham <gkirkham@co2crc.com.au
> <ma...@co2crc.com.au>>
>
> Hi,
>
> What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language files
> ?
>
> I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common
> (undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You can
> fill up other language files the english one. However all language files
> should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset."
>
> What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same
> English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
> modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is there a way to
> ask others to check and update any languages that they are proficient
> in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to
> follow, if so, please let me know.
>
> I noticed that the Japanese file has
> <string id="262" name="salutation_miss">
> <value>Ms.</value>
> </string>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
> http://www.openmeetings.de
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
>
RE: 80
Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Stephen,
The server is only for OpenMeetings, so no Apache running (or
installed), and nothing else on that port.
I did find the difference, in my first server I was running openMeetings
as the root user, but with subsequent servers I had been using nobody.
Running OpenMeetings under nobody works well for port 5080, but not for
port 80, and I cannot understand why that might be.
One thing I could try is to create a full account called "openmeetings"
which has a home directory and then try running OpenMeetings under this
account. Sometimes software requires an account with a home directory,
not just a dummy account.
I believe the issue is related with OpenMeetings code somewhere, as the
Red5 server is running and accepting connections (root), just when you
try to run OpenMeetings itself, that fails.
If I get success at any time, I will post back, but first I wanted to
learn if anyone was familiar with the issue, and it looks like everyone
else has their OpenMeetings servers either using port 5080 or are
successfully running under 'nobody'.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
W: www.co2crc.com.au
From: Stephen Cottham [mailto:Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:34 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
You aren't using Apache on the new Debian server are you?
If Apache is running on port 80 then they will conflict.
To aid in finding the problem, If you go here
/usr/lib/red5
Then chmod 755 red5-debug.sh
Then start it using the debug mode
./red5-debug.sh
This will tell you more about why its failing to start.
Cheers
Stephen Cottham
Group IT Manager (Associate)
Robert Bird Group
Level 5, 333 Ann St
Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)
Phone: +44207 592 8000 (UK)
Fax: +6173 319 2799
Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)
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From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 May 2012 1:24 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
Hi,
Has anyone had success/issues with using port 80 instead of port 5080.
I have a number of Debian OpenMeetings servers. The first that I built
I have configured using port 80 instead of port 5080, and all works
well.
Since that time I have built a few more Debian OpenMeetings servers and
I cannot get any of them to work with port 80. I really do not think
the issue is with OpenMeetings or its configuration, because I can copy
the entire "red5" folder from the new servers to the first (working)
server and it will work on port 80.
I am hoping that someone may have had similar issues and knows how to
resolved it.
/usr/lib/red5/conf/red5.properties
# HTTP
http.host=0.0.0.0
http.port=80
https.port=8443
http.URIEncoding=UTF-8
/usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/config.xml
<red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
W: www.co2crc.com.au
From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
Sent: Monday, 7 May 2012 9:19 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
Thanks, Sebastian for your comments. It is good to know.
George Kirkham
From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 7 May 2012 5:23 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
Hi George,
What is it that I should add to all the other language files?
=> It makes it more easy to give a complete (but not fully translated)
file to translators. Lots of people tend to just download the
language-xml file and translate that. If those files are all incomplete
or certain labels are missing that this is just too confusing.
The same English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other
languages
modify for the languages that they are proficient in?
=> Yes you can fill them up in English and hope that some translators
will look into that file. Of course it might take months or even years
until really all languages are filled up. You could also use
translate.google.com and look for a translation.
Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to follow,
if so, please let me know.
=> If you edit the XML files please don't add linebreaks (some editors
do that automatically), if you want to include a "save" linebreak you
would actually enter something like this:
<br/>
(this is XML encoded HTML linebreak "<br/>")
Sebastian
2012/5/6 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
Hi,
What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language files
?
I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common
(undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You can
fill up other language files the english one. However all language files
should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset."
What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same
English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is there a way to
ask others to check and update any languages that they are proficient
in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to
follow, if so, please let me know.
I noticed that the Japanese file has
<string id="262" name="salutation_miss">
<value>Ms.</value>
</string>
Thanks,
George Kirkham
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de>
http://www.webbase-design.de <http://www.webbase-design.de>
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com <http://www.wagner-sebastian.com>
seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
RE: 80
Posted by Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>.
You aren't using Apache on the new Debian server are you?
If Apache is running on port 80 then they will conflict.
To aid in finding the problem, If you go here
/usr/lib/red5
Then chmod 755 red5-debug.sh
Then start it using the debug mode
./red5-debug.sh
This will tell you more about why its failing to start.
Cheers
From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 May 2012 1:24 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
Hi,
Has anyone had success/issues with using port 80 instead of port 5080.
I have a number of Debian OpenMeetings servers. The first that I built
I have configured using port 80 instead of port 5080, and all works
well.
Since that time I have built a few more Debian OpenMeetings servers and
I cannot get any of them to work with port 80. I really do not think
the issue is with OpenMeetings or its configuration, because I can copy
the entire "red5" folder from the new servers to the first (working)
server and it will work on port 80.
I am hoping that someone may have had similar issues and knows how to
resolved it.
/usr/lib/red5/conf/red5.properties
# HTTP
http.host=0.0.0.0
http.port=80
https.port=8443
http.URIEncoding=UTF-8
/usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/config.xml
<red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
W: www.co2crc.com.au
From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
Sent: Monday, 7 May 2012 9:19 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
Thanks, Sebastian for your comments. It is good to know.
George Kirkham
From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 7 May 2012 5:23 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
Hi George,
What is it that I should add to all the other language files?
=> It makes it more easy to give a complete (but not fully translated)
file to translators. Lots of people tend to just download the
language-xml file and translate that. If those files are all incomplete
or certain labels are missing that this is just too confusing.
The same English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other
languages
modify for the languages that they are proficient in?
=> Yes you can fill them up in English and hope that some translators
will look into that file. Of course it might take months or even years
until really all languages are filled up. You could also use
translate.google.com and look for a translation.
Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to follow,
if so, please let me know.
=> If you edit the XML files please don't add linebreaks (some editors
do that automatically), if you want to include a "save" linebreak you
would actually enter something like this:
<br/>
(this is XML encoded HTML linebreak "<br/>")
Sebastian
2012/5/6 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
Hi,
What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language files
?
I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common
(undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You can
fill up other language files the english one. However all language files
should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset."
What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same
English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is there a way to
ask others to check and update any languages that they are proficient
in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to
follow, if so, please let me know.
I noticed that the Japanese file has
<string id="262" name="salutation_miss">
<value>Ms.</value>
</string>
Thanks,
George Kirkham
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de>
http://www.webbase-design.de <http://www.webbase-design.de>
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com <http://www.wagner-sebastian.com>
seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
Stephen Cottham
Group IT Manager (Associate)
Robert Bird Group
Level 5, 333 Ann St
Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)
Phone: +44207 592 8000 (UK)
Fax: +6173 319 2799
Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)
Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)
Web: www.robertbird.com
This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain legally privileged information or copyright material. Unless expressly stated, confidentiality and/or legal privilege is not intended to be waived by the sending of this email. The contents of this email, including any attachments, are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, please contact us immediately by return email and then delete both messages. You may not otherwise read, forward, copy, use or disclose this email or any attachments. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual sender except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states otherwise. It is your responsibility to check any attachments for viruses or defects before opening or sending them on. None of the sender or its related entities accepts any liability for any consequential damage resulting from this email containing computer viruses.
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80
Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Hi,
Has anyone had success/issues with using port 80 instead of port 5080.
I have a number of Debian OpenMeetings servers. The first that I built
I have configured using port 80 instead of port 5080, and all works
well.
Since that time I have built a few more Debian OpenMeetings servers and
I cannot get any of them to work with port 80. I really do not think
the issue is with OpenMeetings or its configuration, because I can copy
the entire "red5" folder from the new servers to the first (working)
server and it will work on port 80.
I am hoping that someone may have had similar issues and knows how to
resolved it.
/usr/lib/red5/conf/red5.properties
# HTTP
http.host=0.0.0.0
http.port=80
https.port=8443
http.URIEncoding=UTF-8
/usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/config.xml
<red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
Thanks,
George Kirkham
IT Manager
Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
T: (02) 6120 1600
F: (02) 6273 7181
E: gkirkham@co2crc.com.au,
W: www.co2crc.com.au
From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirkham@co2crc.com.au]
Sent: Monday, 7 May 2012 9:19 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
Thanks, Sebastian for your comments. It is good to know.
George Kirkham
From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 7 May 2012 5:23 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
Hi George,
What is it that I should add to all the other language files?
=> It makes it more easy to give a complete (but not fully translated)
file to translators. Lots of people tend to just download the
language-xml file and translate that. If those files are all incomplete
or certain labels are missing that this is just too confusing.
The same English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other
languages
modify for the languages that they are proficient in?
=> Yes you can fill them up in English and hope that some translators
will look into that file. Of course it might take months or even years
until really all languages are filled up. You could also use
translate.google.com and look for a translation.
Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to follow,
if so, please let me know.
=> If you edit the XML files please don't add linebreaks (some editors
do that automatically), if you want to include a "save" linebreak you
would actually enter something like this:
<br/>
(this is XML encoded HTML linebreak "<br/>")
Sebastian
2012/5/6 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
Hi,
What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language files
?
I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common
(undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You can
fill up other language files the english one. However all language files
should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset."
What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same
English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is there a way to
ask others to check and update any languages that they are proficient
in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to
follow, if so, please let me know.
I noticed that the Japanese file has
<string id="262" name="salutation_miss">
<value>Ms.</value>
</string>
Thanks,
George Kirkham
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de>
http://www.webbase-design.de <http://www.webbase-design.de>
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com <http://www.wagner-sebastian.com>
seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
RE: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Thanks, Sebastian for your comments. It is good to know.
George Kirkham
From: seba.wagner@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wagner@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 7 May 2012 5:23 PM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
Hi George,
What is it that I should add to all the other language files?
=> It makes it more easy to give a complete (but not fully translated)
file to translators. Lots of people tend to just download the
language-xml file and translate that. If those files are all incomplete
or certain labels are missing that this is just too confusing.
The same English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other
languages
modify for the languages that they are proficient in?
=> Yes you can fill them up in English and hope that some translators
will look into that file. Of course it might take months or even years
until really all languages are filled up. You could also use
translate.google.com and look for a translation.
Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to follow,
if so, please let me know.
=> If you edit the XML files please don't add linebreaks (some editors
do that automatically), if you want to include a "save" linebreak you
would actually enter something like this:
<br/>
(this is XML encoded HTML linebreak "<br/>")
Sebastian
2012/5/6 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
Hi,
What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language files
?
I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common
(undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You can
fill up other language files the english one. However all language files
should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset."
What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same
English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is there a way to
ask others to check and update any languages that they are proficient
in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to
follow, if so, please let me know.
I noticed that the Japanese file has
<string id="262" name="salutation_miss">
<value>Ms.</value>
</string>
Thanks,
George Kirkham
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
http://www.openmeetings.de <http://www.openmeetings.de>
http://www.webbase-design.de <http://www.webbase-design.de>
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com <http://www.wagner-sebastian.com>
seba.wagner@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
Re: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
Hi George,
What is it that I should add to all the other language files?
=> It makes it more easy to give a complete (but not fully translated) file
to translators. Lots of people tend to just download the language-xml file
and translate that. If those files are all incomplete or certain labels are
missing that this is just too confusing.
The same English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other
languages
modify for the languages that they are proficient in?
=> Yes you can fill them up in English and hope that some translators will
look into that file. Of course it might take months or even years until
really all languages are filled up. You could also use
translate.google.comand look for a translation.
Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to follow, if
so, please let me know.
=> If you edit the XML files please don't add linebreaks (some editors do
that automatically), if you want to include a "save" linebreak you would
actually enter something like this:
<br/>
(this is XML encoded HTML linebreak "<br/>")
Sebastian
2012/5/6 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
> Hi,
>
> What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language files
> ?
>
> I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common
> (undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You can
> fill up other language files the english one. However all language files
> should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset."
>
> What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same
> English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
> modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is there a way to
> ask others to check and update any languages that they are proficient
> in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to
> follow, if so, please let me know.
>
> I noticed that the Japanese file has
> <string id="262" name="salutation_miss">
> <value>Ms.</value>
> </string>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Kirkham
>
>
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