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[REPORT] Apache Heron (incubating) - October 2017
The October monthly report is due on Wednesday 10/4. Here's a draft, please
suggest any edits before I add it to https://wiki.apache.org/
incubator/October2017. I debated adding a comment about the SGA vs ICLA
discussion on the incubator list, but thought it wasn't necessary here. Let
me know if you think otherwise.
thanks,
Bill
------
Heron
A real-time, distributed, fault-tolerant stream processing engine.
Heron has been incubating since 2017-06-23.
Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
1. Finish bootstrapping project, IP clearance, initial website
2. Expanding the community and adding new committers
3. 1st ASF release
Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
aware of?
Migration to Apache infrastructure is waiting on the SGA from Twitter
which has not provided an ETA.
How has the community developed since the last report?
* Developer discussions have moved from Google groups and Slack to the
Heron Apache dev list.
How has the project developed since the last report?
* Development has been active, despite limited progress migrating to
Apache infra.
How would you assess the podling's maturity?
Please feel free to add your own commentary.
[x] Initial setup
[ ] Working towards first release
[ ] Community building
[ ] Nearing graduation
[ ] Other:
Date of last release:
No Apache releases as of yet. Working on code import.
When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
N/A, still bootstrapping the project.
Re: [REPORT] Apache Heron (incubating) - October 2017
Posted by William Markito Oliveira <wi...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Bill!
On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Currently the migration to Apache infra is stalled since we are waiting on
> the SGA from Twitter. Numerous attempts over the past few months have been
> made to get an update from Twitter legal regarding the submittal of the
> SGA, and no response has been received. Perhaps that hasn't been spelled
> out as clearly as it should have been in our reports. Without that we can
> not move code to Apache infra as I understand it. If anyone from Twitter
> has a status update on the SGA to share, please do.
>
> Github Issues will be used in lieu of jira. The dev list has migrated to
> Apache. The users list will migrate to Apache infra once the code is
> migrated and we are approaching an Apache release.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 10:31 AM, William Markito Oliveira <
> markito@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > As someone interested in the project and that offered to help mentoring
> > towards graduation from incubation, I can't see from this list any
> > discussions or decisions about on-going developments and tasks.
> >
> > I've also noticed that the project does not have Wiki [1], Jira [2] and
> the
> > code repository [3] is empty. As per the report, the code import is
> > on-going, but are there infra tickets open to request Wiki and Jira
> ?Status
> > on those ? That would be a good way to start publicly tracking what's
> > going-on, what's planned, etc.. Any plans to migrate the website [4] as
> > well ?
> >
> > Happy to assist with some of the tasks as well.
> >
> > [1] Wiki - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/HERON
> > [2] JIRA - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/Heron/
> > [3] Code repository -
> > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-heron.git
> > [4] Website - https://heron.incubator.apache.org/
> > -
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 10:52 AM, P. Taylor Goetz <pt...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > Can someone point me to the slack channel?
> > >
> > > I agree that it’s hard to get a handle on where things stand and how
> > > decisions are being made based on the mailing list traffic. I see the
> > > “heron-users” google group is still active, I don’t see any reason to
> > delay
> > > closing that down in favor of the user@ mailing list.
> > >
> > > Right now I don’t see the level of collaboration I would hope for, but
> I
> > > might just be missing what’s going on in slack. Regardless,
> collaboration
> > > on slack should be secondary to the mailing lists, and all decision
> > making
> > > should really be done via the mailing lists.
> > >
> > > -Taylor
> > >
> > > > On Oct 10, 2017, at 11:07 AM, Jacques Nadeau <ja...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hey guys, I think it would be worthwhile to provide some additional
> > > flavor
> > > > around the SGA/ICLA discussions in the report. The clear question
> from
> > > > outsiders will be "why is it taking so long" and "what other options
> > have
> > > > been pursued". The report should do its best to address these issues.
> > > >
> > > > A second thing that I think should be covered is how we're going to
> > > engage
> > > > the broader community. Looking at the dev lists, I see very little
> > > > engagement from either the active engineers or new engineers. If I
> > wanted
> > > > to get started contributing to the project, I'd struggle if trying to
> > > > interact with the mailing list. There is a bit more life on the Slack
> > > > channel but in general, development seems pretty opaque (or
> inactive).
> > > How
> > > > do we improve that? Do others agree that there is a challenge? Maybe
> we
> > > > feel like this will get in better shape once things are transitioned
> > > over?
> > > > Do we need to come up with additional ways to make development
> > > > collaborative and the community expanding? A discussion of roadmap?
> > > Weekly
> > > > synopsis of slack channel activity? Other ideas? Not necessary yet?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 9:42 PM, Karthik Ramasamy <karthik@streaml.io
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Can we get a mentor to sign off?
> > > >>
> > > >> cheers
> > > >> /karthik
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Karthik Ramasamy <
> karthik@streaml.io
> > >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Thanks Bill.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Bill Graham <billgraham@gmail.com
> >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Thanks. I've posted the update to https://wiki.apache.org/inc
> > > >>>> ubator/October2017.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Karthik Ramasamy <
> > karthik@streaml.io>
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Looks good!
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 3:25 PM Bill Graham <
> billgraham@gmail.com>
> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> The October monthly report is due on Wednesday 10/4. Here's a
> > draft,
> > > >>>>>> please
> > > >>>>>> suggest any edits before I add it to https://wiki.apache.org/
> > > >>>>>> incubator/October2017. I debated adding a comment about the SGA
> vs
> > > >> ICLA
> > > >>>>>> discussion on the incubator list, but thought it wasn't
> necessary
> > > >> here.
> > > >>>>>> Let
> > > >>>>>> me know if you think otherwise.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> thanks,
> > > >>>>>> Bill
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> ------
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Heron
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> A real-time, distributed, fault-tolerant stream processing
> engine.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Heron has been incubating since 2017-06-23.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Three most important issues to address in the move towards
> > > graduation:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> 1. Finish bootstrapping project, IP clearance, initial website
> > > >>>>>> 2. Expanding the community and adding new committers
> > > >>>>>> 3. 1st ASF release
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need
> to
> > > be
> > > >>>>>> aware of?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Migration to Apache infrastructure is waiting on the SGA from
> > > >> Twitter
> > > >>>>>> which has not provided an ETA.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> How has the community developed since the last report?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> * Developer discussions have moved from Google groups and Slack
> > to
> > > >> the
> > > >>>>>> Heron Apache dev list.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> How has the project developed since the last report?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> * Development has been active, despite limited progress
> migrating
> > > to
> > > >>>>>> Apache infra.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> How would you assess the podling's maturity?
> > > >>>>>> Please feel free to add your own commentary.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> [x] Initial setup
> > > >>>>>> [ ] Working towards first release
> > > >>>>>> [ ] Community building
> > > >>>>>> [ ] Nearing graduation
> > > >>>>>> [ ] Other:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Date of last release:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> No Apache releases as of yet. Working on code import.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> N/A, still bootstrapping the project.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
--
~/William
Re: [REPORT] Apache Heron (incubating) - October 2017
Posted by Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com>.
Currently the migration to Apache infra is stalled since we are waiting on
the SGA from Twitter. Numerous attempts over the past few months have been
made to get an update from Twitter legal regarding the submittal of the
SGA, and no response has been received. Perhaps that hasn't been spelled
out as clearly as it should have been in our reports. Without that we can
not move code to Apache infra as I understand it. If anyone from Twitter
has a status update on the SGA to share, please do.
Github Issues will be used in lieu of jira. The dev list has migrated to
Apache. The users list will migrate to Apache infra once the code is
migrated and we are approaching an Apache release.
On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 10:31 AM, William Markito Oliveira <
markito@apache.org> wrote:
> +1
>
> As someone interested in the project and that offered to help mentoring
> towards graduation from incubation, I can't see from this list any
> discussions or decisions about on-going developments and tasks.
>
> I've also noticed that the project does not have Wiki [1], Jira [2] and the
> code repository [3] is empty. As per the report, the code import is
> on-going, but are there infra tickets open to request Wiki and Jira ?Status
> on those ? That would be a good way to start publicly tracking what's
> going-on, what's planned, etc.. Any plans to migrate the website [4] as
> well ?
>
> Happy to assist with some of the tasks as well.
>
> [1] Wiki - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/HERON
> [2] JIRA - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/Heron/
> [3] Code repository -
> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-heron.git
> [4] Website - https://heron.incubator.apache.org/
> -
>
> On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 10:52 AM, P. Taylor Goetz <pt...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > Can someone point me to the slack channel?
> >
> > I agree that it’s hard to get a handle on where things stand and how
> > decisions are being made based on the mailing list traffic. I see the
> > “heron-users” google group is still active, I don’t see any reason to
> delay
> > closing that down in favor of the user@ mailing list.
> >
> > Right now I don’t see the level of collaboration I would hope for, but I
> > might just be missing what’s going on in slack. Regardless, collaboration
> > on slack should be secondary to the mailing lists, and all decision
> making
> > should really be done via the mailing lists.
> >
> > -Taylor
> >
> > > On Oct 10, 2017, at 11:07 AM, Jacques Nadeau <ja...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey guys, I think it would be worthwhile to provide some additional
> > flavor
> > > around the SGA/ICLA discussions in the report. The clear question from
> > > outsiders will be "why is it taking so long" and "what other options
> have
> > > been pursued". The report should do its best to address these issues.
> > >
> > > A second thing that I think should be covered is how we're going to
> > engage
> > > the broader community. Looking at the dev lists, I see very little
> > > engagement from either the active engineers or new engineers. If I
> wanted
> > > to get started contributing to the project, I'd struggle if trying to
> > > interact with the mailing list. There is a bit more life on the Slack
> > > channel but in general, development seems pretty opaque (or inactive).
> > How
> > > do we improve that? Do others agree that there is a challenge? Maybe we
> > > feel like this will get in better shape once things are transitioned
> > over?
> > > Do we need to come up with additional ways to make development
> > > collaborative and the community expanding? A discussion of roadmap?
> > Weekly
> > > synopsis of slack channel activity? Other ideas? Not necessary yet?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 9:42 PM, Karthik Ramasamy <ka...@streaml.io>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Can we get a mentor to sign off?
> > >>
> > >> cheers
> > >> /karthik
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Karthik Ramasamy <karthik@streaml.io
> >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Thanks Bill.
> > >>>
> > >>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Thanks. I've posted the update to https://wiki.apache.org/inc
> > >>>> ubator/October2017.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Karthik Ramasamy <
> karthik@streaml.io>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Looks good!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 3:25 PM Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> The October monthly report is due on Wednesday 10/4. Here's a
> draft,
> > >>>>>> please
> > >>>>>> suggest any edits before I add it to https://wiki.apache.org/
> > >>>>>> incubator/October2017. I debated adding a comment about the SGA vs
> > >> ICLA
> > >>>>>> discussion on the incubator list, but thought it wasn't necessary
> > >> here.
> > >>>>>> Let
> > >>>>>> me know if you think otherwise.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> thanks,
> > >>>>>> Bill
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> ------
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Heron
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> A real-time, distributed, fault-tolerant stream processing engine.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Heron has been incubating since 2017-06-23.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Three most important issues to address in the move towards
> > graduation:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 1. Finish bootstrapping project, IP clearance, initial website
> > >>>>>> 2. Expanding the community and adding new committers
> > >>>>>> 3. 1st ASF release
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to
> > be
> > >>>>>> aware of?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Migration to Apache infrastructure is waiting on the SGA from
> > >> Twitter
> > >>>>>> which has not provided an ETA.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> How has the community developed since the last report?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> * Developer discussions have moved from Google groups and Slack
> to
> > >> the
> > >>>>>> Heron Apache dev list.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> How has the project developed since the last report?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> * Development has been active, despite limited progress migrating
> > to
> > >>>>>> Apache infra.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> How would you assess the podling's maturity?
> > >>>>>> Please feel free to add your own commentary.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> [x] Initial setup
> > >>>>>> [ ] Working towards first release
> > >>>>>> [ ] Community building
> > >>>>>> [ ] Nearing graduation
> > >>>>>> [ ] Other:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Date of last release:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> No Apache releases as of yet. Working on code import.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> N/A, still bootstrapping the project.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> >
>
Re: [REPORT] Apache Heron (incubating) - October 2017
Posted by William Markito Oliveira <ma...@apache.org>.
+1
As someone interested in the project and that offered to help mentoring
towards graduation from incubation, I can't see from this list any
discussions or decisions about on-going developments and tasks.
I've also noticed that the project does not have Wiki [1], Jira [2] and the
code repository [3] is empty. As per the report, the code import is
on-going, but are there infra tickets open to request Wiki and Jira ?Status
on those ? That would be a good way to start publicly tracking what's
going-on, what's planned, etc.. Any plans to migrate the website [4] as
well ?
Happy to assist with some of the tasks as well.
[1] Wiki - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/HERON
[2] JIRA - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/Heron/
[3] Code repository -
https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-heron.git
[4] Website - https://heron.incubator.apache.org/
-
On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 10:52 AM, P. Taylor Goetz <pt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1
>
> Can someone point me to the slack channel?
>
> I agree that it’s hard to get a handle on where things stand and how
> decisions are being made based on the mailing list traffic. I see the
> “heron-users” google group is still active, I don’t see any reason to delay
> closing that down in favor of the user@ mailing list.
>
> Right now I don’t see the level of collaboration I would hope for, but I
> might just be missing what’s going on in slack. Regardless, collaboration
> on slack should be secondary to the mailing lists, and all decision making
> should really be done via the mailing lists.
>
> -Taylor
>
> > On Oct 10, 2017, at 11:07 AM, Jacques Nadeau <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hey guys, I think it would be worthwhile to provide some additional
> flavor
> > around the SGA/ICLA discussions in the report. The clear question from
> > outsiders will be "why is it taking so long" and "what other options have
> > been pursued". The report should do its best to address these issues.
> >
> > A second thing that I think should be covered is how we're going to
> engage
> > the broader community. Looking at the dev lists, I see very little
> > engagement from either the active engineers or new engineers. If I wanted
> > to get started contributing to the project, I'd struggle if trying to
> > interact with the mailing list. There is a bit more life on the Slack
> > channel but in general, development seems pretty opaque (or inactive).
> How
> > do we improve that? Do others agree that there is a challenge? Maybe we
> > feel like this will get in better shape once things are transitioned
> over?
> > Do we need to come up with additional ways to make development
> > collaborative and the community expanding? A discussion of roadmap?
> Weekly
> > synopsis of slack channel activity? Other ideas? Not necessary yet?
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 9:42 PM, Karthik Ramasamy <ka...@streaml.io>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Can we get a mentor to sign off?
> >>
> >> cheers
> >> /karthik
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Karthik Ramasamy <ka...@streaml.io>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks Bill.
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks. I've posted the update to https://wiki.apache.org/inc
> >>>> ubator/October2017.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Karthik Ramasamy <ka...@streaml.io>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Looks good!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 3:25 PM Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> The October monthly report is due on Wednesday 10/4. Here's a draft,
> >>>>>> please
> >>>>>> suggest any edits before I add it to https://wiki.apache.org/
> >>>>>> incubator/October2017. I debated adding a comment about the SGA vs
> >> ICLA
> >>>>>> discussion on the incubator list, but thought it wasn't necessary
> >> here.
> >>>>>> Let
> >>>>>> me know if you think otherwise.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> thanks,
> >>>>>> Bill
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ------
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Heron
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> A real-time, distributed, fault-tolerant stream processing engine.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Heron has been incubating since 2017-06-23.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Three most important issues to address in the move towards
> graduation:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 1. Finish bootstrapping project, IP clearance, initial website
> >>>>>> 2. Expanding the community and adding new committers
> >>>>>> 3. 1st ASF release
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to
> be
> >>>>>> aware of?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Migration to Apache infrastructure is waiting on the SGA from
> >> Twitter
> >>>>>> which has not provided an ETA.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> How has the community developed since the last report?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> * Developer discussions have moved from Google groups and Slack to
> >> the
> >>>>>> Heron Apache dev list.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> How has the project developed since the last report?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> * Development has been active, despite limited progress migrating
> to
> >>>>>> Apache infra.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> How would you assess the podling's maturity?
> >>>>>> Please feel free to add your own commentary.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [x] Initial setup
> >>>>>> [ ] Working towards first release
> >>>>>> [ ] Community building
> >>>>>> [ ] Nearing graduation
> >>>>>> [ ] Other:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Date of last release:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> No Apache releases as of yet. Working on code import.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> N/A, still bootstrapping the project.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>
Re: [REPORT] Apache Heron (incubating) - October 2017
Posted by "P. Taylor Goetz" <pt...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Bill. I’ve signed off on the report.
-Taylor
> On Oct 12, 2017, at 7:20 PM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Good call. I initially debated whether that discussion was worthy of the monthly report. I've updated the report with the following section, and I've opened LEGAL-339 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-339> for clarification on the issue.
>
> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
> aware of?
>
> Migration to Apache infrastructure is waiting on the SGA from Twitter which has not provided an ETA. There was a discussion on the general incubator and Heron dev lists[1] about whether an SGA was required, but consensus was not reached. LEGAL-339 [2] has been filed to get clarification.
>
> 1 - https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a5c3ea63e8a07aeb2fb3e3627646198bd35db12b590f71e437130a98@%3Cdev.heron.apache.org%3E <https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a5c3ea63e8a07aeb2fb3e3627646198bd35db12b590f71e437130a98@%3Cdev.heron.apache.org%3E>
> 2 - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-339 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-339>
>
> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 11:00 AM, P. Taylor Goetz <ptgoetz@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> There was some discussion earlier about whether an SGA was required or whether signed ICLAs from contributors would suffice, but I don’t think there was a conclusion reached.
>
> You may want to mention that in the report, or shoot a question to general@incubator.a.o so see if we can get a definitive answer.
>
> -Taylor
>
>
> > On Oct 12, 2017, at 1:18 PM, Bill Graham <billgraham@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry, I thought you wanted your and Taylors comments included in the
> > report as observations. I've removed them.
> >
> > I noted in the report that developer discussions have moved towards the
> > mailing list in the last month, a time which shows a noticeable increase in
> > mailing list discussions and engagement from what was previously happening
> > on slack. There's certainly room to improve on that front. I'd like to hear
> > from the more active project contributors ideas for improving mailing list
> > discussions. (I'm taking some time off temporarily and not actively
> > developing atm.)
> >
> > Regarding moving the users list to Apache, I think it's too soon for that.
> > IIRC we previously came to consensus (on slack, before the apache lists
> > existed, with Jake et al) that we would migrate those discussions once we
> > we migrated the code into Apache (i.e., code has moved and we're preparing
> > our first release). Until then, from a users perspective I think it would
> > be confusing to have user discussions on Apache while the code is still not
> > Apache-owned and non-Apache releases are still being made. We can revisit
> > that plan if people feel that's not the right approach.
> >
> > I feel like the project migration is a bit in a limbo state while people
> > wait (and wonder about) the status of the SGA. Once that happens, I feel
> > the migration can move at a better pace.
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Jacques Nadeau <jacques@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >
> >> Hey Bill,
> >>
> >> Do you disagree with Taylor and my comments? My goal was to provide
> >> feedback/guidance so that you could incorporate in your reporting. My
> >> comments weren't for the incubator PMC/board, they were for the PPMC.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 9:07 AM, Bill Graham <billgraham@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I've included both of your feedback in the report under your respective
> >>> Comments sections. For future reports feel free to edit directly with with
> >>> your comments as you review and sign off.
> >>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/October2017 <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/October2017>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 8:58 AM, Jacques Nadeau <jacques@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Bill & Karthik, can you guys incorporate Taylor's feedback and mine on
> >>> the
> >>>> report?
> >>>>
> >>>> thanks!
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Karthik Ramasamy <karthik@streaml.io <ma...@streaml.io>>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Taylor -
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Can someone point me to the slack channel?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Slack channel is at heronstreaming.slack.com <http://heronstreaming.slack.com/>. You can self invite at
> >>>>> https://heronstreaming.herokuapp.com/ <https://heronstreaming.herokuapp.com/> - hope this helps.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> cheers
> >>>>> /karthik
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>
>
Re: [REPORT] Apache Heron (incubating) - October 2017
Posted by Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com>.
Good call. I initially debated whether that discussion was worthy of the
monthly report. I've updated the report with the following section, and
I've opened LEGAL-339 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-339> for
clarification on the issue.
Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
aware of?
Migration to Apache infrastructure is waiting on the SGA from Twitter
which has not provided an ETA. There was a discussion on the general
incubator and Heron dev lists[1] about whether an SGA was required, but
consensus was not reached. LEGAL-339 [2] has been filed to get
clarification.
1 -
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a5c3ea63e8a07aeb2fb3e3627646198bd35db12b590f71e437130a98@%3Cdev.heron.apache.org%3E
2 - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-339
On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 11:00 AM, P. Taylor Goetz <pt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There was some discussion earlier about whether an SGA was required or
> whether signed ICLAs from contributors would suffice, but I don’t think
> there was a conclusion reached.
>
> You may want to mention that in the report, or shoot a question to
> general@incubator.a.o so see if we can get a definitive answer.
>
> -Taylor
>
>
> > On Oct 12, 2017, at 1:18 PM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry, I thought you wanted your and Taylors comments included in the
> > report as observations. I've removed them.
> >
> > I noted in the report that developer discussions have moved towards the
> > mailing list in the last month, a time which shows a noticeable increase
> in
> > mailing list discussions and engagement from what was previously
> happening
> > on slack. There's certainly room to improve on that front. I'd like to
> hear
> > from the more active project contributors ideas for improving mailing
> list
> > discussions. (I'm taking some time off temporarily and not actively
> > developing atm.)
> >
> > Regarding moving the users list to Apache, I think it's too soon for
> that.
> > IIRC we previously came to consensus (on slack, before the apache lists
> > existed, with Jake et al) that we would migrate those discussions once we
> > we migrated the code into Apache (i.e., code has moved and we're
> preparing
> > our first release). Until then, from a users perspective I think it would
> > be confusing to have user discussions on Apache while the code is still
> not
> > Apache-owned and non-Apache releases are still being made. We can revisit
> > that plan if people feel that's not the right approach.
> >
> > I feel like the project migration is a bit in a limbo state while people
> > wait (and wonder about) the status of the SGA. Once that happens, I feel
> > the migration can move at a better pace.
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Jacques Nadeau <ja...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hey Bill,
> >>
> >> Do you disagree with Taylor and my comments? My goal was to provide
> >> feedback/guidance so that you could incorporate in your reporting. My
> >> comments weren't for the incubator PMC/board, they were for the PPMC.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 9:07 AM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I've included both of your feedback in the report under your respective
> >>> Comments sections. For future reports feel free to edit directly with
> with
> >>> your comments as you review and sign off.
> >>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/October2017
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 8:58 AM, Jacques Nadeau <ja...@apache.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Bill & Karthik, can you guys incorporate Taylor's feedback and mine on
> >>> the
> >>>> report?
> >>>>
> >>>> thanks!
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Karthik Ramasamy <
> karthik@streaml.io>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Taylor -
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Can someone point me to the slack channel?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Slack channel is at heronstreaming.slack.com. You can self invite at
> >>>>> https://heronstreaming.herokuapp.com/ - hope this helps.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> cheers
> >>>>> /karthik
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>
>
Re: [REPORT] Apache Heron (incubating) - October 2017
Posted by "P. Taylor Goetz" <pt...@gmail.com>.
There was some discussion earlier about whether an SGA was required or whether signed ICLAs from contributors would suffice, but I don’t think there was a conclusion reached.
You may want to mention that in the report, or shoot a question to general@incubator.a.o so see if we can get a definitive answer.
-Taylor
> On Oct 12, 2017, at 1:18 PM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Sorry, I thought you wanted your and Taylors comments included in the
> report as observations. I've removed them.
>
> I noted in the report that developer discussions have moved towards the
> mailing list in the last month, a time which shows a noticeable increase in
> mailing list discussions and engagement from what was previously happening
> on slack. There's certainly room to improve on that front. I'd like to hear
> from the more active project contributors ideas for improving mailing list
> discussions. (I'm taking some time off temporarily and not actively
> developing atm.)
>
> Regarding moving the users list to Apache, I think it's too soon for that.
> IIRC we previously came to consensus (on slack, before the apache lists
> existed, with Jake et al) that we would migrate those discussions once we
> we migrated the code into Apache (i.e., code has moved and we're preparing
> our first release). Until then, from a users perspective I think it would
> be confusing to have user discussions on Apache while the code is still not
> Apache-owned and non-Apache releases are still being made. We can revisit
> that plan if people feel that's not the right approach.
>
> I feel like the project migration is a bit in a limbo state while people
> wait (and wonder about) the status of the SGA. Once that happens, I feel
> the migration can move at a better pace.
>
> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Jacques Nadeau <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hey Bill,
>>
>> Do you disagree with Taylor and my comments? My goal was to provide
>> feedback/guidance so that you could incorporate in your reporting. My
>> comments weren't for the incubator PMC/board, they were for the PPMC.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 9:07 AM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I've included both of your feedback in the report under your respective
>>> Comments sections. For future reports feel free to edit directly with with
>>> your comments as you review and sign off.
>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/October2017
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 8:58 AM, Jacques Nadeau <ja...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bill & Karthik, can you guys incorporate Taylor's feedback and mine on
>>> the
>>>> report?
>>>>
>>>> thanks!
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Karthik Ramasamy <ka...@streaml.io>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Taylor -
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can someone point me to the slack channel?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Slack channel is at heronstreaming.slack.com. You can self invite at
>>>>> https://heronstreaming.herokuapp.com/ - hope this helps.
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers
>>>>> /karthik
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
Re: [REPORT] Apache Heron (incubating) - October 2017
Posted by Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com>.
Sorry, I thought you wanted your and Taylors comments included in the
report as observations. I've removed them.
I noted in the report that developer discussions have moved towards the
mailing list in the last month, a time which shows a noticeable increase in
mailing list discussions and engagement from what was previously happening
on slack. There's certainly room to improve on that front. I'd like to hear
from the more active project contributors ideas for improving mailing list
discussions. (I'm taking some time off temporarily and not actively
developing atm.)
Regarding moving the users list to Apache, I think it's too soon for that.
IIRC we previously came to consensus (on slack, before the apache lists
existed, with Jake et al) that we would migrate those discussions once we
we migrated the code into Apache (i.e., code has moved and we're preparing
our first release). Until then, from a users perspective I think it would
be confusing to have user discussions on Apache while the code is still not
Apache-owned and non-Apache releases are still being made. We can revisit
that plan if people feel that's not the right approach.
I feel like the project migration is a bit in a limbo state while people
wait (and wonder about) the status of the SGA. Once that happens, I feel
the migration can move at a better pace.
On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Jacques Nadeau <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hey Bill,
>
> Do you disagree with Taylor and my comments? My goal was to provide
> feedback/guidance so that you could incorporate in your reporting. My
> comments weren't for the incubator PMC/board, they were for the PPMC.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 9:07 AM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've included both of your feedback in the report under your respective
>> Comments sections. For future reports feel free to edit directly with with
>> your comments as you review and sign off.
>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/October2017
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 8:58 AM, Jacques Nadeau <ja...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Bill & Karthik, can you guys incorporate Taylor's feedback and mine on
>> the
>> > report?
>> >
>> > thanks!
>> >
>> > On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Karthik Ramasamy <ka...@streaml.io>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Taylor -
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Can someone point me to the slack channel?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> Slack channel is at heronstreaming.slack.com. You can self invite at
>> >> https://heronstreaming.herokuapp.com/ - hope this helps.
>> >>
>> >> cheers
>> >> /karthik
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: [REPORT] Apache Heron (incubating) - October 2017
Posted by Jacques Nadeau <ja...@apache.org>.
Hey Bill,
Do you disagree with Taylor and my comments? My goal was to provide
feedback/guidance so that you could incorporate in your reporting. My
comments weren't for the incubator PMC/board, they were for the PPMC.
On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 9:07 AM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've included both of your feedback in the report under your respective
> Comments sections. For future reports feel free to edit directly with with
> your comments as you review and sign off.
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/October2017
>
> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 8:58 AM, Jacques Nadeau <ja...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Bill & Karthik, can you guys incorporate Taylor's feedback and mine on
> the
> > report?
> >
> > thanks!
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Karthik Ramasamy <ka...@streaml.io>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Taylor -
> >>
> >>
> >> > Can someone point me to the slack channel?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Slack channel is at heronstreaming.slack.com. You can self invite at
> >> https://heronstreaming.herokuapp.com/ - hope this helps.
> >>
> >> cheers
> >> /karthik
> >>
> >
> >
>
Re: [REPORT] Apache Heron (incubating) - October 2017
Posted by Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com>.
I've included both of your feedback in the report under your respective
Comments sections. For future reports feel free to edit directly with with
your comments as you review and sign off.
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/October2017
On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 8:58 AM, Jacques Nadeau <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> Bill & Karthik, can you guys incorporate Taylor's feedback and mine on the
> report?
>
> thanks!
>
> On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Karthik Ramasamy <ka...@streaml.io>
> wrote:
>
>> Taylor -
>>
>>
>> > Can someone point me to the slack channel?
>> >
>> >
>> Slack channel is at heronstreaming.slack.com. You can self invite at
>> https://heronstreaming.herokuapp.com/ - hope this helps.
>>
>> cheers
>> /karthik
>>
>
>
Re: [REPORT] Apache Heron (incubating) - October 2017
Posted by Jacques Nadeau <ja...@apache.org>.
Bill & Karthik, can you guys incorporate Taylor's feedback and mine on the
report?
thanks!
On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Karthik Ramasamy <ka...@streaml.io>
wrote:
> Taylor -
>
>
> > Can someone point me to the slack channel?
> >
> >
> Slack channel is at heronstreaming.slack.com. You can self invite at
> https://heronstreaming.herokuapp.com/ - hope this helps.
>
> cheers
> /karthik
>
Re: [REPORT] Apache Heron (incubating) - October 2017
Posted by Karthik Ramasamy <ka...@streaml.io>.
Taylor -
> Can someone point me to the slack channel?
>
>
Slack channel is at heronstreaming.slack.com. You can self invite at
https://heronstreaming.herokuapp.com/ - hope this helps.
cheers
/karthik
Re: [REPORT] Apache Heron (incubating) - October 2017
Posted by "P. Taylor Goetz" <pt...@gmail.com>.
+1
Can someone point me to the slack channel?
I agree that it’s hard to get a handle on where things stand and how decisions are being made based on the mailing list traffic. I see the “heron-users” google group is still active, I don’t see any reason to delay closing that down in favor of the user@ mailing list.
Right now I don’t see the level of collaboration I would hope for, but I might just be missing what’s going on in slack. Regardless, collaboration on slack should be secondary to the mailing lists, and all decision making should really be done via the mailing lists.
-Taylor
> On Oct 10, 2017, at 11:07 AM, Jacques Nadeau <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hey guys, I think it would be worthwhile to provide some additional flavor
> around the SGA/ICLA discussions in the report. The clear question from
> outsiders will be "why is it taking so long" and "what other options have
> been pursued". The report should do its best to address these issues.
>
> A second thing that I think should be covered is how we're going to engage
> the broader community. Looking at the dev lists, I see very little
> engagement from either the active engineers or new engineers. If I wanted
> to get started contributing to the project, I'd struggle if trying to
> interact with the mailing list. There is a bit more life on the Slack
> channel but in general, development seems pretty opaque (or inactive). How
> do we improve that? Do others agree that there is a challenge? Maybe we
> feel like this will get in better shape once things are transitioned over?
> Do we need to come up with additional ways to make development
> collaborative and the community expanding? A discussion of roadmap? Weekly
> synopsis of slack channel activity? Other ideas? Not necessary yet?
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 9:42 PM, Karthik Ramasamy <ka...@streaml.io> wrote:
>
>> Can we get a mentor to sign off?
>>
>> cheers
>> /karthik
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Karthik Ramasamy <ka...@streaml.io>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Bill.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks. I've posted the update to https://wiki.apache.org/inc
>>>> ubator/October2017.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Karthik Ramasamy <ka...@streaml.io>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Looks good!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 3:25 PM Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The October monthly report is due on Wednesday 10/4. Here's a draft,
>>>>>> please
>>>>>> suggest any edits before I add it to https://wiki.apache.org/
>>>>>> incubator/October2017. I debated adding a comment about the SGA vs
>> ICLA
>>>>>> discussion on the incubator list, but thought it wasn't necessary
>> here.
>>>>>> Let
>>>>>> me know if you think otherwise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Heron
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A real-time, distributed, fault-tolerant stream processing engine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Heron has been incubating since 2017-06-23.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Finish bootstrapping project, IP clearance, initial website
>>>>>> 2. Expanding the community and adding new committers
>>>>>> 3. 1st ASF release
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
>>>>>> aware of?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Migration to Apache infrastructure is waiting on the SGA from
>> Twitter
>>>>>> which has not provided an ETA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How has the community developed since the last report?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Developer discussions have moved from Google groups and Slack to
>> the
>>>>>> Heron Apache dev list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How has the project developed since the last report?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Development has been active, despite limited progress migrating to
>>>>>> Apache infra.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How would you assess the podling's maturity?
>>>>>> Please feel free to add your own commentary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [x] Initial setup
>>>>>> [ ] Working towards first release
>>>>>> [ ] Community building
>>>>>> [ ] Nearing graduation
>>>>>> [ ] Other:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Date of last release:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No Apache releases as of yet. Working on code import.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> N/A, still bootstrapping the project.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
Re: [REPORT] Apache Heron (incubating) - October 2017
Posted by Jacques Nadeau <ja...@apache.org>.
Hey guys, I think it would be worthwhile to provide some additional flavor
around the SGA/ICLA discussions in the report. The clear question from
outsiders will be "why is it taking so long" and "what other options have
been pursued". The report should do its best to address these issues.
A second thing that I think should be covered is how we're going to engage
the broader community. Looking at the dev lists, I see very little
engagement from either the active engineers or new engineers. If I wanted
to get started contributing to the project, I'd struggle if trying to
interact with the mailing list. There is a bit more life on the Slack
channel but in general, development seems pretty opaque (or inactive). How
do we improve that? Do others agree that there is a challenge? Maybe we
feel like this will get in better shape once things are transitioned over?
Do we need to come up with additional ways to make development
collaborative and the community expanding? A discussion of roadmap? Weekly
synopsis of slack channel activity? Other ideas? Not necessary yet?
On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 9:42 PM, Karthik Ramasamy <ka...@streaml.io> wrote:
> Can we get a mentor to sign off?
>
> cheers
> /karthik
>
> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Karthik Ramasamy <ka...@streaml.io>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Bill.
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks. I've posted the update to https://wiki.apache.org/inc
> >> ubator/October2017.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Karthik Ramasamy <ka...@streaml.io>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Looks good!
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 3:25 PM Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> The October monthly report is due on Wednesday 10/4. Here's a draft,
> >>>> please
> >>>> suggest any edits before I add it to https://wiki.apache.org/
> >>>> incubator/October2017. I debated adding a comment about the SGA vs
> ICLA
> >>>> discussion on the incubator list, but thought it wasn't necessary
> here.
> >>>> Let
> >>>> me know if you think otherwise.
> >>>>
> >>>> thanks,
> >>>> Bill
> >>>>
> >>>> ------
> >>>>
> >>>> Heron
> >>>>
> >>>> A real-time, distributed, fault-tolerant stream processing engine.
> >>>>
> >>>> Heron has been incubating since 2017-06-23.
> >>>>
> >>>> Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. Finish bootstrapping project, IP clearance, initial website
> >>>> 2. Expanding the community and adding new committers
> >>>> 3. 1st ASF release
> >>>>
> >>>> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
> >>>> aware of?
> >>>>
> >>>> Migration to Apache infrastructure is waiting on the SGA from
> Twitter
> >>>> which has not provided an ETA.
> >>>>
> >>>> How has the community developed since the last report?
> >>>>
> >>>> * Developer discussions have moved from Google groups and Slack to
> the
> >>>> Heron Apache dev list.
> >>>>
> >>>> How has the project developed since the last report?
> >>>>
> >>>> * Development has been active, despite limited progress migrating to
> >>>> Apache infra.
> >>>>
> >>>> How would you assess the podling's maturity?
> >>>> Please feel free to add your own commentary.
> >>>>
> >>>> [x] Initial setup
> >>>> [ ] Working towards first release
> >>>> [ ] Community building
> >>>> [ ] Nearing graduation
> >>>> [ ] Other:
> >>>>
> >>>> Date of last release:
> >>>>
> >>>> No Apache releases as of yet. Working on code import.
> >>>>
> >>>> When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
> >>>>
> >>>> N/A, still bootstrapping the project.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
Re: [REPORT] Apache Heron (incubating) - October 2017
Posted by Karthik Ramasamy <ka...@streaml.io>.
Can we get a mentor to sign off?
cheers
/karthik
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Karthik Ramasamy <ka...@streaml.io>
wrote:
> Thanks Bill.
>
> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks. I've posted the update to https://wiki.apache.org/inc
>> ubator/October2017.
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Karthik Ramasamy <ka...@streaml.io>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Looks good!
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 3:25 PM Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The October monthly report is due on Wednesday 10/4. Here's a draft,
>>>> please
>>>> suggest any edits before I add it to https://wiki.apache.org/
>>>> incubator/October2017. I debated adding a comment about the SGA vs ICLA
>>>> discussion on the incubator list, but thought it wasn't necessary here.
>>>> Let
>>>> me know if you think otherwise.
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>> ------
>>>>
>>>> Heron
>>>>
>>>> A real-time, distributed, fault-tolerant stream processing engine.
>>>>
>>>> Heron has been incubating since 2017-06-23.
>>>>
>>>> Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Finish bootstrapping project, IP clearance, initial website
>>>> 2. Expanding the community and adding new committers
>>>> 3. 1st ASF release
>>>>
>>>> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
>>>> aware of?
>>>>
>>>> Migration to Apache infrastructure is waiting on the SGA from Twitter
>>>> which has not provided an ETA.
>>>>
>>>> How has the community developed since the last report?
>>>>
>>>> * Developer discussions have moved from Google groups and Slack to the
>>>> Heron Apache dev list.
>>>>
>>>> How has the project developed since the last report?
>>>>
>>>> * Development has been active, despite limited progress migrating to
>>>> Apache infra.
>>>>
>>>> How would you assess the podling's maturity?
>>>> Please feel free to add your own commentary.
>>>>
>>>> [x] Initial setup
>>>> [ ] Working towards first release
>>>> [ ] Community building
>>>> [ ] Nearing graduation
>>>> [ ] Other:
>>>>
>>>> Date of last release:
>>>>
>>>> No Apache releases as of yet. Working on code import.
>>>>
>>>> When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
>>>>
>>>> N/A, still bootstrapping the project.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: [REPORT] Apache Heron (incubating) - October 2017
Posted by Karthik Ramasamy <ka...@streaml.io>.
Thanks Bill.
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks. I've posted the update to https://wiki.apache.org/inc
> ubator/October2017.
>
> On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Karthik Ramasamy <ka...@streaml.io>
> wrote:
>
>> Looks good!
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 3:25 PM Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The October monthly report is due on Wednesday 10/4. Here's a draft,
>>> please
>>> suggest any edits before I add it to https://wiki.apache.org/
>>> incubator/October2017. I debated adding a comment about the SGA vs ICLA
>>> discussion on the incubator list, but thought it wasn't necessary here.
>>> Let
>>> me know if you think otherwise.
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> ------
>>>
>>> Heron
>>>
>>> A real-time, distributed, fault-tolerant stream processing engine.
>>>
>>> Heron has been incubating since 2017-06-23.
>>>
>>> Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
>>>
>>> 1. Finish bootstrapping project, IP clearance, initial website
>>> 2. Expanding the community and adding new committers
>>> 3. 1st ASF release
>>>
>>> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
>>> aware of?
>>>
>>> Migration to Apache infrastructure is waiting on the SGA from Twitter
>>> which has not provided an ETA.
>>>
>>> How has the community developed since the last report?
>>>
>>> * Developer discussions have moved from Google groups and Slack to the
>>> Heron Apache dev list.
>>>
>>> How has the project developed since the last report?
>>>
>>> * Development has been active, despite limited progress migrating to
>>> Apache infra.
>>>
>>> How would you assess the podling's maturity?
>>> Please feel free to add your own commentary.
>>>
>>> [x] Initial setup
>>> [ ] Working towards first release
>>> [ ] Community building
>>> [ ] Nearing graduation
>>> [ ] Other:
>>>
>>> Date of last release:
>>>
>>> No Apache releases as of yet. Working on code import.
>>>
>>> When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
>>>
>>> N/A, still bootstrapping the project.
>>>
>>
>
Re: [REPORT] Apache Heron (incubating) - October 2017
Posted by Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com>.
Thanks. I've posted the update to https://wiki.apache.org/inc
ubator/October2017.
On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Karthik Ramasamy <ka...@streaml.io> wrote:
> Looks good!
>
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 3:25 PM Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The October monthly report is due on Wednesday 10/4. Here's a draft,
>> please
>> suggest any edits before I add it to https://wiki.apache.org/
>> incubator/October2017. I debated adding a comment about the SGA vs ICLA
>> discussion on the incubator list, but thought it wasn't necessary here.
>> Let
>> me know if you think otherwise.
>>
>> thanks,
>> Bill
>>
>> ------
>>
>> Heron
>>
>> A real-time, distributed, fault-tolerant stream processing engine.
>>
>> Heron has been incubating since 2017-06-23.
>>
>> Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
>>
>> 1. Finish bootstrapping project, IP clearance, initial website
>> 2. Expanding the community and adding new committers
>> 3. 1st ASF release
>>
>> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
>> aware of?
>>
>> Migration to Apache infrastructure is waiting on the SGA from Twitter
>> which has not provided an ETA.
>>
>> How has the community developed since the last report?
>>
>> * Developer discussions have moved from Google groups and Slack to the
>> Heron Apache dev list.
>>
>> How has the project developed since the last report?
>>
>> * Development has been active, despite limited progress migrating to
>> Apache infra.
>>
>> How would you assess the podling's maturity?
>> Please feel free to add your own commentary.
>>
>> [x] Initial setup
>> [ ] Working towards first release
>> [ ] Community building
>> [ ] Nearing graduation
>> [ ] Other:
>>
>> Date of last release:
>>
>> No Apache releases as of yet. Working on code import.
>>
>> When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
>>
>> N/A, still bootstrapping the project.
>>
>
Re: [REPORT] Apache Heron (incubating) - October 2017
Posted by Karthik Ramasamy <ka...@streaml.io>.
Looks good!
On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 3:25 PM Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The October monthly report is due on Wednesday 10/4. Here's a draft, please
> suggest any edits before I add it to https://wiki.apache.org/
> incubator/October2017. I debated adding a comment about the SGA vs ICLA
> discussion on the incubator list, but thought it wasn't necessary here. Let
> me know if you think otherwise.
>
> thanks,
> Bill
>
> ------
>
> Heron
>
> A real-time, distributed, fault-tolerant stream processing engine.
>
> Heron has been incubating since 2017-06-23.
>
> Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
>
> 1. Finish bootstrapping project, IP clearance, initial website
> 2. Expanding the community and adding new committers
> 3. 1st ASF release
>
> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
> aware of?
>
> Migration to Apache infrastructure is waiting on the SGA from Twitter
> which has not provided an ETA.
>
> How has the community developed since the last report?
>
> * Developer discussions have moved from Google groups and Slack to the
> Heron Apache dev list.
>
> How has the project developed since the last report?
>
> * Development has been active, despite limited progress migrating to
> Apache infra.
>
> How would you assess the podling's maturity?
> Please feel free to add your own commentary.
>
> [x] Initial setup
> [ ] Working towards first release
> [ ] Community building
> [ ] Nearing graduation
> [ ] Other:
>
> Date of last release:
>
> No Apache releases as of yet. Working on code import.
>
> When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
>
> N/A, still bootstrapping the project.
>