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Posted to dev@ofbiz.apache.org by Michael Brohl <mi...@ecomify.de> on 2016/09/10 20:19:51 UTC
Re: svn commit: r1759945 - /ofbiz/trunk/
Hi Jacques,
following the latest version of our template proposal, the correct
format would be:
===
[Implemented|Improved|Fix for|Documentation]: [Jira title|Free text]
[(OFBIZ-xxxx)]
[More detailed explanation of what has been done and what the fix achieves,
sideeffects etc.]
[Thanks:] [xxxx for ... and yyyy for]
===
I think the Tortoise template would then be:
===
Implemented: title
Improved: title
Fix for: title
Documentation: title
(OFBIZ-)
blabla
Thanks: x for
===
Title should be put in the message without "".
Tomorrow I will write down the specs in the Wiki with detailed explanations.
Thanks,
Michael
Am 09.09.16 um 08:55 schrieb jleroux@apache.org:
> Author: jleroux
> Date: Fri Sep 9 06:55:02 2016
> New Revision: 1759945
>
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1759945&view=rev
> Log:
> No functionnal change, only a rough ToirtoiseSvn template for commits, can't have empty line (removed by ToirtoiseSvn)
>
> Modified:
> ofbiz/trunk/ (props changed)
>
> Propchange: ofbiz/trunk/
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --- tsvn:logtemplatecommit (added)
> +++ tsvn:logtemplatecommit Fri Sep 9 06:55:02 2016
> @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@
> +Implements
> +Improvement for
> +Documents
> +Fix for
> +OFBIZ-
> +blabla
> +Thanks x to for
>
>
Re: svn commit: r1759945 - /ofbiz/trunk/
Posted by Michael Brohl <mi...@ecomify.de>.
Thanks Jacques, much appreciated!
Regards,
Michael
Am 11.09.16 um 15:12 schrieb Jacques Le Roux:
> I'm done here, we can move on. It seems lazy consensus apply anyway.
>
> Jacques
>
>
> Le 11/09/2016 à 11:48, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
>> I think that it doesn't make much of a difference whether it's past or
>> present or whatever as long as it remains consistent.
>>
>> Consistency will make us all familiar with the process and it's easy to
>> understand what everybody's doing and you can automate things.
>>
>> So Jacques since you already casted your opinion and approval it
>> would be
>> great to just finalize this issue and move forward, we all need to
>> adjust
>> our style a little bit myself included.
>>
>> On Sep 11, 2016 12:31 PM, "Michael Brohl" <mi...@ecomify.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>> No, I don't need certain phrases, they should only be unified :-)
>>
>> But it would save a lot of time to speak out early in the discussion
>> instead of agreeing and then acting differently.
>>
>> I think it's not too much work for every single committer to slightly
>> change his commit messages to a unified format but it will gain much in
>> readability and save me lots of stupid work to get the development
>> details
>> together, believe me.
>>
>> Thanks for your cooperation,
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> Am 11.09.16 um 11:11 schrieb Jacques Le Roux:
>>
>> Michael,
>>> Simple: do you need Improved instead of Improves for your parsing?
>>>
>>> If not I will keep my slightly different preferences. If yes we can
>>> discuss more (use regexp, etc.)
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 11/09/2016 à 10:43, Michael Brohl a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Jacques,
>>>>
>>>> a UNIFIED commit message format is not unified if every committer uses
>>>> his personal preferences. That's the state we already have and I
>>>> wanted to
>>>> change that.
>>>>
>>>> I thought I have laid out my intentions pretty clear and you gave
>>>> me no
>>>> doubt about it when you wrote
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "I think it's a good idea to normalize our commits comments and your
>>>> proposition seems good to me Jacopo. Now, of course I wonder about
>>>> how to
>>>> automate it."
>>>>
>>>> earlier in the thread.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In your case, you just have to setup the proper Tortoise template as I
>>>> have provided in response to your commit (just the parts which
>>>> should be
>>>> unified of course). I have given some examples on how to use it on
>>>> request
>>>> of Taher, so everything should be pretty clear.
>>>>
>>>> If you still want to stick to your preferences or have doubts, why
>>>> didn't
>>>> you discuss it in the thread?
>>>>
>>>> With unification you have to give up personal preferences and
>>>> flexibility, that's seems natural to me and will be the case for every
>>>> committer, noone followed the template until recently (including me).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I want to bring this discussion to a good end (we have way more
>>>> important
>>>> topics to discuss) and so it would be nice to get your support on
>>>> this.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>> Am 11.09.16 um 00:39 schrieb Jacques Le Roux:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>>>
>>>>> I prefer to use Implements instead of Implemented. When I commit
>>>>> it's an
>>>>> action, not something in the past. I got this habit while working
>>>>> with an
>>>>> Englishman: Rupert Howell. Nothing better to get a habit in English
>>>>> language than working with an Englishman. BTW, I still remember
>>>>> Adrian's
>>>>> reaction when someone tried to learn him how to use English :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course this can be seen as a moot point. I think we need some
>>>>> flexibility, we are not machines. Fortunately they are far from
>>>>> ready to
>>>>> replace us doing this job ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> When I saw Jacopo using "Fix for:", I had a doubt (I'd use Fixes). I
>>>>> will finally stick to Fixes to be consistent, but will keep the rest
>>>>> (Improves, etc.) alike in the TortoiseSVN template.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did not put "'title" in order to save me to have to remove it. I
>>>>> just
>>>>> write the title after the action. Most of the time the title will
>>>>> come from
>>>>> the Jira title. Sometimes you need to change it, slightly or not,
>>>>> or to
>>>>> create it if it does not come from Jira.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess that you use parenthesis in (OFBIZ-) like IBM use(s/d?) [] in
>>>>> its documentation to denote something optional. That would mean
>>>>> for me to
>>>>> have to remove them most of the them. I don't want that.
>>>>>
>>>>> I put blaba, to say that I have to write something here (we use
>>>>> that in
>>>>> French for yada yada). It's a kind of joke here. You can read my
>>>>> commit, I
>>>>> learnt the hard way how to write something *meaningful* there (mostly
>>>>> thanks to Adam I must say)
>>>>>
>>>>> Same for "thanks: x for"
>>>>>
>>>>> You see all what I did, was done on purpose. I committed this
>>>>> template
>>>>> for myself. I guess I'm now the only committers using Windows, hence
>>>>> TortoiseSVN. It's useless for others, they can forget it, else
>>>>> please chime
>>>>> in.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, I totally agree about the proposed template below and it
>>>>> should be
>>>>> the reference for all of us in the wiki. But again we are not
>>>>> robots. I'll
>>>>> not chase somebody if he uses "Fix for:" instead of "Fixes"
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>> PS: you say <<Title should be put in the message without "". >> I
>>>>> don't
>>>>> agree, it's a reference, I prefer to keep quotes around.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 10/09/2016 à 22:19, Michael Brohl a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Jacques,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> following the latest version of our template proposal, the correct
>>>>>> format would be:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ===
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [Implemented|Improved|Fix for|Documentation]: [Jira title|Free text]
>>>>>> [(OFBIZ-xxxx)]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [More detailed explanation of what has been done and what the fix
>>>>>> achieves,
>>>>>> sideeffects etc.]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [Thanks:] [xxxx for ... and yyyy for]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ===
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think the Tortoise template would then be:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ===
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Implemented: title
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Improved: title
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fix for: title
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Documentation: title
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (OFBIZ-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> blabla
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks: x for
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ===
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Title should be put in the message without "".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tomorrow I will write down the specs in the Wiki with detailed
>>>>>> explanations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 09.09.16 um 08:55 schrieb jleroux@apache.org:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Author: jleroux
>>>>>>> Date: Fri Sep 9 06:55:02 2016
>>>>>>> New Revision: 1759945
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1759945&view=rev
>>>>>>> Log:
>>>>>>> No functionnal change, only a rough ToirtoiseSvn template for
>>>>>>> commits,
>>>>>>> can't have empty line (removed by ToirtoiseSvn)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Modified:
>>>>>>> ofbiz/trunk/ (props changed)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Propchange: ofbiz/trunk/
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --- tsvn:logtemplatecommit (added)
>>>>>>> +++ tsvn:logtemplatecommit Fri Sep 9 06:55:02 2016
>>>>>>> @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@
>>>>>>> +Implements
>>>>>>> +Improvement for
>>>>>>> +Documents
>>>>>>> +Fix for
>>>>>>> +OFBIZ-
>>>>>>> +blabla
>>>>>>> +Thanks x to for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>
Re: svn commit: r1759945 - /ofbiz/trunk/
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
I'm done here, we can move on. It seems lazy consensus apply anyway.
Jacques
Le 11/09/2016 � 11:48, Taher Alkhateeb a �crit :
> I think that it doesn't make much of a difference whether it's past or
> present or whatever as long as it remains consistent.
>
> Consistency will make us all familiar with the process and it's easy to
> understand what everybody's doing and you can automate things.
>
> So Jacques since you already casted your opinion and approval it would be
> great to just finalize this issue and move forward, we all need to adjust
> our style a little bit myself included.
>
> On Sep 11, 2016 12:31 PM, "Michael Brohl" <mi...@ecomify.de> wrote:
>
> No, I don't need certain phrases, they should only be unified :-)
>
> But it would save a lot of time to speak out early in the discussion
> instead of agreeing and then acting differently.
>
> I think it's not too much work for every single committer to slightly
> change his commit messages to a unified format but it will gain much in
> readability and save me lots of stupid work to get the development details
> together, believe me.
>
> Thanks for your cooperation,
>
> Michael
>
>
> Am 11.09.16 um 11:11 schrieb Jacques Le Roux:
>
> Michael,
>> Simple: do you need Improved instead of Improves for your parsing?
>>
>> If not I will keep my slightly different preferences. If yes we can
>> discuss more (use regexp, etc.)
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>>
>> Le 11/09/2016 � 10:43, Michael Brohl a �crit :
>>
>>> Jacques,
>>>
>>> a UNIFIED commit message format is not unified if every committer uses
>>> his personal preferences. That's the state we already have and I wanted to
>>> change that.
>>>
>>> I thought I have laid out my intentions pretty clear and you gave me no
>>> doubt about it when you wrote
>>>
>>>
>>> "I think it's a good idea to normalize our commits comments and your
>>> proposition seems good to me Jacopo. Now, of course I wonder about how to
>>> automate it."
>>>
>>> earlier in the thread.
>>>
>>>
>>> In your case, you just have to setup the proper Tortoise template as I
>>> have provided in response to your commit (just the parts which should be
>>> unified of course). I have given some examples on how to use it on request
>>> of Taher, so everything should be pretty clear.
>>>
>>> If you still want to stick to your preferences or have doubts, why didn't
>>> you discuss it in the thread?
>>>
>>> With unification you have to give up personal preferences and
>>> flexibility, that's seems natural to me and will be the case for every
>>> committer, noone followed the template until recently (including me).
>>>
>>>
>>> I want to bring this discussion to a good end (we have way more important
>>> topics to discuss) and so it would be nice to get your support on this.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> Am 11.09.16 um 00:39 schrieb Jacques Le Roux:
>>>
>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>>
>>>> I prefer to use Implements instead of Implemented. When I commit it's an
>>>> action, not something in the past. I got this habit while working with an
>>>> Englishman: Rupert Howell. Nothing better to get a habit in English
>>>> language than working with an Englishman. BTW, I still remember Adrian's
>>>> reaction when someone tried to learn him how to use English :)
>>>>
>>>> Of course this can be seen as a moot point. I think we need some
>>>> flexibility, we are not machines. Fortunately they are far from ready to
>>>> replace us doing this job ;)
>>>>
>>>> When I saw Jacopo using "Fix for:", I had a doubt (I'd use Fixes). I
>>>> will finally stick to Fixes to be consistent, but will keep the rest
>>>> (Improves, etc.) alike in the TortoiseSVN template.
>>>>
>>>> I did not put "'title" in order to save me to have to remove it. I just
>>>> write the title after the action. Most of the time the title will come from
>>>> the Jira title. Sometimes you need to change it, slightly or not, or to
>>>> create it if it does not come from Jira.
>>>>
>>>> I guess that you use parenthesis in (OFBIZ-) like IBM use(s/d?) [] in
>>>> its documentation to denote something optional. That would mean for me to
>>>> have to remove them most of the them. I don't want that.
>>>>
>>>> I put blaba, to say that I have to write something here (we use that in
>>>> French for yada yada). It's a kind of joke here. You can read my commit, I
>>>> learnt the hard way how to write something *meaningful* there (mostly
>>>> thanks to Adam I must say)
>>>>
>>>> Same for "thanks: x for"
>>>>
>>>> You see all what I did, was done on purpose. I committed this template
>>>> for myself. I guess I'm now the only committers using Windows, hence
>>>> TortoiseSVN. It's useless for others, they can forget it, else please chime
>>>> in.
>>>>
>>>> Now, I totally agree about the proposed template below and it should be
>>>> the reference for all of us in the wiki. But again we are not robots. I'll
>>>> not chase somebody if he uses "Fix for:" instead of "Fixes"
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>> PS: you say <<Title should be put in the message without "". >> I don't
>>>> agree, it's a reference, I prefer to keep quotes around.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le 10/09/2016 � 22:19, Michael Brohl a �crit :
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jacques,
>>>>>
>>>>> following the latest version of our template proposal, the correct
>>>>> format would be:
>>>>>
>>>>> ===
>>>>>
>>>>> [Implemented|Improved|Fix for|Documentation]: [Jira title|Free text]
>>>>> [(OFBIZ-xxxx)]
>>>>>
>>>>> [More detailed explanation of what has been done and what the fix
>>>>> achieves,
>>>>> sideeffects etc.]
>>>>>
>>>>> [Thanks:] [xxxx for ... and yyyy for]
>>>>>
>>>>> ===
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the Tortoise template would then be:
>>>>>
>>>>> ===
>>>>>
>>>>> Implemented: title
>>>>>
>>>>> Improved: title
>>>>>
>>>>> Fix for: title
>>>>>
>>>>> Documentation: title
>>>>>
>>>>> (OFBIZ-)
>>>>>
>>>>> blabla
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks: x for
>>>>>
>>>>> ===
>>>>>
>>>>> Title should be put in the message without "".
>>>>>
>>>>> Tomorrow I will write down the specs in the Wiki with detailed
>>>>> explanations.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 09.09.16 um 08:55 schrieb jleroux@apache.org:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Author: jleroux
>>>>>> Date: Fri Sep 9 06:55:02 2016
>>>>>> New Revision: 1759945
>>>>>>
>>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1759945&view=rev
>>>>>> Log:
>>>>>> No functionnal change, only a rough ToirtoiseSvn template for commits,
>>>>>> can't have empty line (removed by ToirtoiseSvn)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Modified:
>>>>>> ofbiz/trunk/ (props changed)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Propchange: ofbiz/trunk/
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- tsvn:logtemplatecommit (added)
>>>>>> +++ tsvn:logtemplatecommit Fri Sep 9 06:55:02 2016
>>>>>> @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@
>>>>>> +Implements
>>>>>> +Improvement for
>>>>>> +Documents
>>>>>> +Fix for
>>>>>> +OFBIZ-
>>>>>> +blabla
>>>>>> +Thanks x to for
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
Re: svn commit: r1759945 - /ofbiz/trunk/
Posted by Taher Alkhateeb <sl...@gmail.com>.
I think that it doesn't make much of a difference whether it's past or
present or whatever as long as it remains consistent.
Consistency will make us all familiar with the process and it's easy to
understand what everybody's doing and you can automate things.
So Jacques since you already casted your opinion and approval it would be
great to just finalize this issue and move forward, we all need to adjust
our style a little bit myself included.
On Sep 11, 2016 12:31 PM, "Michael Brohl" <mi...@ecomify.de> wrote:
No, I don't need certain phrases, they should only be unified :-)
But it would save a lot of time to speak out early in the discussion
instead of agreeing and then acting differently.
I think it's not too much work for every single committer to slightly
change his commit messages to a unified format but it will gain much in
readability and save me lots of stupid work to get the development details
together, believe me.
Thanks for your cooperation,
Michael
Am 11.09.16 um 11:11 schrieb Jacques Le Roux:
Michael,
>
> Simple: do you need Improved instead of Improves for your parsing?
>
> If not I will keep my slightly different preferences. If yes we can
> discuss more (use regexp, etc.)
>
> Thanks
>
> Jacques
>
>
> Le 11/09/2016 à 10:43, Michael Brohl a écrit :
>
>> Jacques,
>>
>> a UNIFIED commit message format is not unified if every committer uses
>> his personal preferences. That's the state we already have and I wanted to
>> change that.
>>
>> I thought I have laid out my intentions pretty clear and you gave me no
>> doubt about it when you wrote
>>
>>
>> "I think it's a good idea to normalize our commits comments and your
>> proposition seems good to me Jacopo. Now, of course I wonder about how to
>> automate it."
>>
>> earlier in the thread.
>>
>>
>> In your case, you just have to setup the proper Tortoise template as I
>> have provided in response to your commit (just the parts which should be
>> unified of course). I have given some examples on how to use it on request
>> of Taher, so everything should be pretty clear.
>>
>> If you still want to stick to your preferences or have doubts, why didn't
>> you discuss it in the thread?
>>
>> With unification you have to give up personal preferences and
>> flexibility, that's seems natural to me and will be the case for every
>> committer, noone followed the template until recently (including me).
>>
>>
>> I want to bring this discussion to a good end (we have way more important
>> topics to discuss) and so it would be nice to get your support on this.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Michael
>>
>> Am 11.09.16 um 00:39 schrieb Jacques Le Roux:
>>
>>> Hi Michael,
>>>
>>> I prefer to use Implements instead of Implemented. When I commit it's an
>>> action, not something in the past. I got this habit while working with an
>>> Englishman: Rupert Howell. Nothing better to get a habit in English
>>> language than working with an Englishman. BTW, I still remember Adrian's
>>> reaction when someone tried to learn him how to use English :)
>>>
>>> Of course this can be seen as a moot point. I think we need some
>>> flexibility, we are not machines. Fortunately they are far from ready to
>>> replace us doing this job ;)
>>>
>>> When I saw Jacopo using "Fix for:", I had a doubt (I'd use Fixes). I
>>> will finally stick to Fixes to be consistent, but will keep the rest
>>> (Improves, etc.) alike in the TortoiseSVN template.
>>>
>>> I did not put "'title" in order to save me to have to remove it. I just
>>> write the title after the action. Most of the time the title will come from
>>> the Jira title. Sometimes you need to change it, slightly or not, or to
>>> create it if it does not come from Jira.
>>>
>>> I guess that you use parenthesis in (OFBIZ-) like IBM use(s/d?) [] in
>>> its documentation to denote something optional. That would mean for me to
>>> have to remove them most of the them. I don't want that.
>>>
>>> I put blaba, to say that I have to write something here (we use that in
>>> French for yada yada). It's a kind of joke here. You can read my commit, I
>>> learnt the hard way how to write something *meaningful* there (mostly
>>> thanks to Adam I must say)
>>>
>>> Same for "thanks: x for"
>>>
>>> You see all what I did, was done on purpose. I committed this template
>>> for myself. I guess I'm now the only committers using Windows, hence
>>> TortoiseSVN. It's useless for others, they can forget it, else please chime
>>> in.
>>>
>>> Now, I totally agree about the proposed template below and it should be
>>> the reference for all of us in the wiki. But again we are not robots. I'll
>>> not chase somebody if he uses "Fix for:" instead of "Fixes"
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> PS: you say <<Title should be put in the message without "". >> I don't
>>> agree, it's a reference, I prefer to keep quotes around.
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 10/09/2016 à 22:19, Michael Brohl a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Hi Jacques,
>>>>
>>>> following the latest version of our template proposal, the correct
>>>> format would be:
>>>>
>>>> ===
>>>>
>>>> [Implemented|Improved|Fix for|Documentation]: [Jira title|Free text]
>>>> [(OFBIZ-xxxx)]
>>>>
>>>> [More detailed explanation of what has been done and what the fix
>>>> achieves,
>>>> sideeffects etc.]
>>>>
>>>> [Thanks:] [xxxx for ... and yyyy for]
>>>>
>>>> ===
>>>>
>>>> I think the Tortoise template would then be:
>>>>
>>>> ===
>>>>
>>>> Implemented: title
>>>>
>>>> Improved: title
>>>>
>>>> Fix for: title
>>>>
>>>> Documentation: title
>>>>
>>>> (OFBIZ-)
>>>>
>>>> blabla
>>>>
>>>> Thanks: x for
>>>>
>>>> ===
>>>>
>>>> Title should be put in the message without "".
>>>>
>>>> Tomorrow I will write down the specs in the Wiki with detailed
>>>> explanations.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 09.09.16 um 08:55 schrieb jleroux@apache.org:
>>>>
>>>>> Author: jleroux
>>>>> Date: Fri Sep 9 06:55:02 2016
>>>>> New Revision: 1759945
>>>>>
>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1759945&view=rev
>>>>> Log:
>>>>> No functionnal change, only a rough ToirtoiseSvn template for commits,
>>>>> can't have empty line (removed by ToirtoiseSvn)
>>>>>
>>>>> Modified:
>>>>> ofbiz/trunk/ (props changed)
>>>>>
>>>>> Propchange: ofbiz/trunk/
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> --- tsvn:logtemplatecommit (added)
>>>>> +++ tsvn:logtemplatecommit Fri Sep 9 06:55:02 2016
>>>>> @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@
>>>>> +Implements
>>>>> +Improvement for
>>>>> +Documents
>>>>> +Fix for
>>>>> +OFBIZ-
>>>>> +blabla
>>>>> +Thanks x to for
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: svn commit: r1759945 - /ofbiz/trunk/
Posted by Michael Brohl <mi...@ecomify.de>.
No, I don't need certain phrases, they should only be unified :-)
But it would save a lot of time to speak out early in the discussion
instead of agreeing and then acting differently.
I think it's not too much work for every single committer to slightly
change his commit messages to a unified format but it will gain much in
readability and save me lots of stupid work to get the development
details together, believe me.
Thanks for your cooperation,
Michael
Am 11.09.16 um 11:11 schrieb Jacques Le Roux:
> Michael,
>
> Simple: do you need Improved instead of Improves for your parsing?
>
> If not I will keep my slightly different preferences. If yes we can
> discuss more (use regexp, etc.)
>
> Thanks
>
> Jacques
>
>
> Le 11/09/2016 à 10:43, Michael Brohl a écrit :
>> Jacques,
>>
>> a UNIFIED commit message format is not unified if every committer
>> uses his personal preferences. That's the state we already have and I
>> wanted to change that.
>>
>> I thought I have laid out my intentions pretty clear and you gave me
>> no doubt about it when you wrote
>>
>>
>> "I think it's a good idea to normalize our commits comments and your
>> proposition seems good to me Jacopo. Now, of course I wonder about
>> how to automate it."
>>
>> earlier in the thread.
>>
>>
>> In your case, you just have to setup the proper Tortoise template as
>> I have provided in response to your commit (just the parts which
>> should be unified of course). I have given some examples on how to
>> use it on request of Taher, so everything should be pretty clear.
>>
>> If you still want to stick to your preferences or have doubts, why
>> didn't you discuss it in the thread?
>>
>> With unification you have to give up personal preferences and
>> flexibility, that's seems natural to me and will be the case for
>> every committer, noone followed the template until recently
>> (including me).
>>
>>
>> I want to bring this discussion to a good end (we have way more
>> important topics to discuss) and so it would be nice to get your
>> support on this.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Michael
>>
>> Am 11.09.16 um 00:39 schrieb Jacques Le Roux:
>>> Hi Michael,
>>>
>>> I prefer to use Implements instead of Implemented. When I commit
>>> it's an action, not something in the past. I got this habit while
>>> working with an Englishman: Rupert Howell. Nothing better to get a
>>> habit in English language than working with an Englishman. BTW, I
>>> still remember Adrian's reaction when someone tried to learn him how
>>> to use English :)
>>>
>>> Of course this can be seen as a moot point. I think we need some
>>> flexibility, we are not machines. Fortunately they are far from
>>> ready to replace us doing this job ;)
>>>
>>> When I saw Jacopo using "Fix for:", I had a doubt (I'd use Fixes). I
>>> will finally stick to Fixes to be consistent, but will keep the rest
>>> (Improves, etc.) alike in the TortoiseSVN template.
>>>
>>> I did not put "'title" in order to save me to have to remove it. I
>>> just write the title after the action. Most of the time the title
>>> will come from the Jira title. Sometimes you need to change it,
>>> slightly or not, or to create it if it does not come from Jira.
>>>
>>> I guess that you use parenthesis in (OFBIZ-) like IBM use(s/d?) []
>>> in its documentation to denote something optional. That would mean
>>> for me to have to remove them most of the them. I don't want that.
>>>
>>> I put blaba, to say that I have to write something here (we use that
>>> in French for yada yada). It's a kind of joke here. You can read my
>>> commit, I learnt the hard way how to write something *meaningful*
>>> there (mostly thanks to Adam I must say)
>>>
>>> Same for "thanks: x for"
>>>
>>> You see all what I did, was done on purpose. I committed this
>>> template for myself. I guess I'm now the only committers using
>>> Windows, hence TortoiseSVN. It's useless for others, they can forget
>>> it, else please chime in.
>>>
>>> Now, I totally agree about the proposed template below and it should
>>> be the reference for all of us in the wiki. But again we are not
>>> robots. I'll not chase somebody if he uses "Fix for:" instead of
>>> "Fixes"
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> PS: you say <<Title should be put in the message without "". >> I
>>> don't agree, it's a reference, I prefer to keep quotes around.
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 10/09/2016 à 22:19, Michael Brohl a écrit :
>>>> Hi Jacques,
>>>>
>>>> following the latest version of our template proposal, the correct
>>>> format would be:
>>>>
>>>> ===
>>>>
>>>> [Implemented|Improved|Fix for|Documentation]: [Jira title|Free text]
>>>> [(OFBIZ-xxxx)]
>>>>
>>>> [More detailed explanation of what has been done and what the fix
>>>> achieves,
>>>> sideeffects etc.]
>>>>
>>>> [Thanks:] [xxxx for ... and yyyy for]
>>>>
>>>> ===
>>>>
>>>> I think the Tortoise template would then be:
>>>>
>>>> ===
>>>>
>>>> Implemented: title
>>>>
>>>> Improved: title
>>>>
>>>> Fix for: title
>>>>
>>>> Documentation: title
>>>>
>>>> (OFBIZ-)
>>>>
>>>> blabla
>>>>
>>>> Thanks: x for
>>>>
>>>> ===
>>>>
>>>> Title should be put in the message without "".
>>>>
>>>> Tomorrow I will write down the specs in the Wiki with detailed
>>>> explanations.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 09.09.16 um 08:55 schrieb jleroux@apache.org:
>>>>> Author: jleroux
>>>>> Date: Fri Sep 9 06:55:02 2016
>>>>> New Revision: 1759945
>>>>>
>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1759945&view=rev
>>>>> Log:
>>>>> No functionnal change, only a rough ToirtoiseSvn template for
>>>>> commits, can't have empty line (removed by ToirtoiseSvn)
>>>>>
>>>>> Modified:
>>>>> ofbiz/trunk/ (props changed)
>>>>>
>>>>> Propchange: ofbiz/trunk/
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> --- tsvn:logtemplatecommit (added)
>>>>> +++ tsvn:logtemplatecommit Fri Sep 9 06:55:02 2016
>>>>> @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@
>>>>> +Implements
>>>>> +Improvement for
>>>>> +Documents
>>>>> +Fix for
>>>>> +OFBIZ-
>>>>> +blabla
>>>>> +Thanks x to for
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: svn commit: r1759945 - /ofbiz/trunk/
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Michael,
Simple: do you need Improved instead of Improves for your parsing?
If not I will keep my slightly different preferences. If yes we can discuss more (use regexp, etc.)
Thanks
Jacques
Le 11/09/2016 � 10:43, Michael Brohl a �crit :
> Jacques,
>
> a UNIFIED commit message format is not unified if every committer uses his personal preferences. That's the state we already have and I wanted to
> change that.
>
> I thought I have laid out my intentions pretty clear and you gave me no doubt about it when you wrote
>
>
> "I think it's a good idea to normalize our commits comments and your proposition seems good to me Jacopo. Now, of course I wonder about how to
> automate it."
>
> earlier in the thread.
>
>
> In your case, you just have to setup the proper Tortoise template as I have provided in response to your commit (just the parts which should be
> unified of course). I have given some examples on how to use it on request of Taher, so everything should be pretty clear.
>
> If you still want to stick to your preferences or have doubts, why didn't you discuss it in the thread?
>
> With unification you have to give up personal preferences and flexibility, that's seems natural to me and will be the case for every committer,
> noone followed the template until recently (including me).
>
>
> I want to bring this discussion to a good end (we have way more important topics to discuss) and so it would be nice to get your support on this.
>
> Thanks,
> Michael
>
> Am 11.09.16 um 00:39 schrieb Jacques Le Roux:
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> I prefer to use Implements instead of Implemented. When I commit it's an action, not something in the past. I got this habit while working with an
>> Englishman: Rupert Howell. Nothing better to get a habit in English language than working with an Englishman. BTW, I still remember Adrian's
>> reaction when someone tried to learn him how to use English :)
>>
>> Of course this can be seen as a moot point. I think we need some flexibility, we are not machines. Fortunately they are far from ready to replace
>> us doing this job ;)
>>
>> When I saw Jacopo using "Fix for:", I had a doubt (I'd use Fixes). I will finally stick to Fixes to be consistent, but will keep the rest
>> (Improves, etc.) alike in the TortoiseSVN template.
>>
>> I did not put "'title" in order to save me to have to remove it. I just write the title after the action. Most of the time the title will come from
>> the Jira title. Sometimes you need to change it, slightly or not, or to create it if it does not come from Jira.
>>
>> I guess that you use parenthesis in (OFBIZ-) like IBM use(s/d?) [] in its documentation to denote something optional. That would mean for me to
>> have to remove them most of the them. I don't want that.
>>
>> I put blaba, to say that I have to write something here (we use that in French for yada yada). It's a kind of joke here. You can read my commit, I
>> learnt the hard way how to write something *meaningful* there (mostly thanks to Adam I must say)
>>
>> Same for "thanks: x for"
>>
>> You see all what I did, was done on purpose. I committed this template for myself. I guess I'm now the only committers using Windows, hence
>> TortoiseSVN. It's useless for others, they can forget it, else please chime in.
>>
>> Now, I totally agree about the proposed template below and it should be the reference for all of us in the wiki. But again we are not robots. I'll
>> not chase somebody if he uses "Fix for:" instead of "Fixes"
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> PS: you say <<Title should be put in the message without "". >> I don't agree, it's a reference, I prefer to keep quotes around.
>>
>>
>> Le 10/09/2016 � 22:19, Michael Brohl a �crit :
>>> Hi Jacques,
>>>
>>> following the latest version of our template proposal, the correct format would be:
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> [Implemented|Improved|Fix for|Documentation]: [Jira title|Free text]
>>> [(OFBIZ-xxxx)]
>>>
>>> [More detailed explanation of what has been done and what the fix achieves,
>>> sideeffects etc.]
>>>
>>> [Thanks:] [xxxx for ... and yyyy for]
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> I think the Tortoise template would then be:
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> Implemented: title
>>>
>>> Improved: title
>>>
>>> Fix for: title
>>>
>>> Documentation: title
>>>
>>> (OFBIZ-)
>>>
>>> blabla
>>>
>>> Thanks: x for
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> Title should be put in the message without "".
>>>
>>> Tomorrow I will write down the specs in the Wiki with detailed explanations.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 09.09.16 um 08:55 schrieb jleroux@apache.org:
>>>> Author: jleroux
>>>> Date: Fri Sep 9 06:55:02 2016
>>>> New Revision: 1759945
>>>>
>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1759945&view=rev
>>>> Log:
>>>> No functionnal change, only a rough ToirtoiseSvn template for commits, can't have empty line (removed by ToirtoiseSvn)
>>>>
>>>> Modified:
>>>> ofbiz/trunk/ (props changed)
>>>>
>>>> Propchange: ofbiz/trunk/
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> --- tsvn:logtemplatecommit (added)
>>>> +++ tsvn:logtemplatecommit Fri Sep 9 06:55:02 2016
>>>> @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@
>>>> +Implements
>>>> +Improvement for
>>>> +Documents
>>>> +Fix for
>>>> +OFBIZ-
>>>> +blabla
>>>> +Thanks x to for
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: svn commit: r1759945 - /ofbiz/trunk/
Posted by Michael Brohl <mi...@ecomify.de>.
Jacques,
a UNIFIED commit message format is not unified if every committer uses
his personal preferences. That's the state we already have and I wanted
to change that.
I thought I have laid out my intentions pretty clear and you gave me no
doubt about it when you wrote
"I think it's a good idea to normalize our commits comments and your
proposition seems good to me Jacopo. Now, of course I wonder about how
to automate it."
earlier in the thread.
In your case, you just have to setup the proper Tortoise template as I
have provided in response to your commit (just the parts which should be
unified of course). I have given some examples on how to use it on
request of Taher, so everything should be pretty clear.
If you still want to stick to your preferences or have doubts, why
didn't you discuss it in the thread?
With unification you have to give up personal preferences and
flexibility, that's seems natural to me and will be the case for every
committer, noone followed the template until recently (including me).
I want to bring this discussion to a good end (we have way more
important topics to discuss) and so it would be nice to get your support
on this.
Thanks,
Michael
Am 11.09.16 um 00:39 schrieb Jacques Le Roux:
> Hi Michael,
>
> I prefer to use Implements instead of Implemented. When I commit it's
> an action, not something in the past. I got this habit while working
> with an Englishman: Rupert Howell. Nothing better to get a habit in
> English language than working with an Englishman. BTW, I still
> remember Adrian's reaction when someone tried to learn him how to use
> English :)
>
> Of course this can be seen as a moot point. I think we need some
> flexibility, we are not machines. Fortunately they are far from ready
> to replace us doing this job ;)
>
> When I saw Jacopo using "Fix for:", I had a doubt (I'd use Fixes). I
> will finally stick to Fixes to be consistent, but will keep the rest
> (Improves, etc.) alike in the TortoiseSVN template.
>
> I did not put "'title" in order to save me to have to remove it. I
> just write the title after the action. Most of the time the title will
> come from the Jira title. Sometimes you need to change it, slightly or
> not, or to create it if it does not come from Jira.
>
> I guess that you use parenthesis in (OFBIZ-) like IBM use(s/d?) [] in
> its documentation to denote something optional. That would mean for me
> to have to remove them most of the them. I don't want that.
>
> I put blaba, to say that I have to write something here (we use that
> in French for yada yada). It's a kind of joke here. You can read my
> commit, I learnt the hard way how to write something *meaningful*
> there (mostly thanks to Adam I must say)
>
> Same for "thanks: x for"
>
> You see all what I did, was done on purpose. I committed this template
> for myself. I guess I'm now the only committers using Windows, hence
> TortoiseSVN. It's useless for others, they can forget it, else please
> chime in.
>
> Now, I totally agree about the proposed template below and it should
> be the reference for all of us in the wiki. But again we are not
> robots. I'll not chase somebody if he uses "Fix for:" instead of "Fixes"
>
> Thanks
>
> Jacques
>
> PS: you say <<Title should be put in the message without "". >> I
> don't agree, it's a reference, I prefer to keep quotes around.
>
>
> Le 10/09/2016 à 22:19, Michael Brohl a écrit :
>> Hi Jacques,
>>
>> following the latest version of our template proposal, the correct
>> format would be:
>>
>> ===
>>
>> [Implemented|Improved|Fix for|Documentation]: [Jira title|Free text]
>> [(OFBIZ-xxxx)]
>>
>> [More detailed explanation of what has been done and what the fix
>> achieves,
>> sideeffects etc.]
>>
>> [Thanks:] [xxxx for ... and yyyy for]
>>
>> ===
>>
>> I think the Tortoise template would then be:
>>
>> ===
>>
>> Implemented: title
>>
>> Improved: title
>>
>> Fix for: title
>>
>> Documentation: title
>>
>> (OFBIZ-)
>>
>> blabla
>>
>> Thanks: x for
>>
>> ===
>>
>> Title should be put in the message without "".
>>
>> Tomorrow I will write down the specs in the Wiki with detailed
>> explanations.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> Am 09.09.16 um 08:55 schrieb jleroux@apache.org:
>>> Author: jleroux
>>> Date: Fri Sep 9 06:55:02 2016
>>> New Revision: 1759945
>>>
>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1759945&view=rev
>>> Log:
>>> No functionnal change, only a rough ToirtoiseSvn template for
>>> commits, can't have empty line (removed by ToirtoiseSvn)
>>>
>>> Modified:
>>> ofbiz/trunk/ (props changed)
>>>
>>> Propchange: ofbiz/trunk/
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> --- tsvn:logtemplatecommit (added)
>>> +++ tsvn:logtemplatecommit Fri Sep 9 06:55:02 2016
>>> @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@
>>> +Implements
>>> +Improvement for
>>> +Documents
>>> +Fix for
>>> +OFBIZ-
>>> +blabla
>>> +Thanks x to for
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: svn commit: r1759945 - /ofbiz/trunk/
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Le 11/09/2016 � 02:39, Scott Gray a �crit :
>> to lessen (my) mouse and keyboard activity
>
> After you typed such a large response that says so little, I found this
> comment pretty hilarious.
Actually this template is something that will be used during years, that's why I'm concerned about that
And sometimes you have to stand for your ideas :p
> Seriously though, I'm going to assume that Michael is looking for a
> standard format and phrasing so that the text can be processed in some
> automatic manner. If that is the case and you're refusing to follow it
> simply because you prefer present-tense vs. past-tense, then I would argue
> that you are indeed being contradictory.
In such case I'd of course happily conform to
Jacques
> If the reasoning for strict
> uniformity is just for the sake of it, then I agree that some
> personalization is perfectly fine.
>
> Regards
> Scott
>
> On 11 September 2016 at 10:47, Jacques Le Roux <jacques.le.roux@les7arts.com
>> wrote:
>> And to be as clear as possible, this is not motivated by a spirit of
>> contradiction, but to lessen (my) mouse and keyboard activity
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 11/09/2016 � 00:39, Jacques Le Roux a �crit :
>>
>>> Hi Michael,
>>>
>>> I prefer to use Implements instead of Implemented. When I commit it's an
>>> action, not something in the past. I got this habit while working with an
>>> Englishman: Rupert Howell. Nothing better to get a habit in English
>>> language than working with an Englishman. BTW, I still remember Adrian's
>>> reaction when someone tried to learn him how to use English :)
>>>
>>> Of course this can be seen as a moot point. I think we need some
>>> flexibility, we are not machines. Fortunately they are far from ready to
>>> replace us doing this job ;)
>>>
>>> When I saw Jacopo using "Fix for:", I had a doubt (I'd use Fixes). I will
>>> finally stick to Fixes to be consistent, but will keep the rest (Improves,
>>> etc.) alike in the TortoiseSVN template.
>>>
>>> I did not put "'title" in order to save me to have to remove it. I just
>>> write the title after the action. Most of the time the title will come from
>>> the Jira title. Sometimes you need to change it, slightly or not, or to
>>> create it if it does not come from Jira.
>>>
>>> I guess that you use parenthesis in (OFBIZ-) like IBM use(s/d?) [] in its
>>> documentation to denote something optional. That would mean for me to have
>>> to remove them most of the them. I don't want that.
>>>
>>> I put blaba, to say that I have to write something here (we use that in
>>> French for yada yada). It's a kind of joke here. You can read my commit, I
>>> learnt the hard way how to write something *meaningful* there (mostly
>>> thanks to Adam I must say)
>>>
>>> Same for "thanks: x for"
>>>
>>> You see all what I did, was done on purpose. I committed this template
>>> for myself. I guess I'm now the only committers using Windows, hence
>>> TortoiseSVN. It's useless for others, they can forget it, else please chime
>>> in.
>>>
>>> Now, I totally agree about the proposed template below and it should be
>>> the reference for all of us in the wiki. But again we are not robots. I'll
>>> not chase somebody if he uses "Fix for:" instead of "Fixes"
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> PS: you say <<Title should be put in the message without "". >> I don't
>>> agree, it's a reference, I prefer to keep quotes around.
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 10/09/2016 � 22:19, Michael Brohl a �crit :
>>>
>>>> Hi Jacques,
>>>>
>>>> following the latest version of our template proposal, the correct
>>>> format would be:
>>>>
>>>> ===
>>>>
>>>> [Implemented|Improved|Fix for|Documentation]: [Jira title|Free text]
>>>> [(OFBIZ-xxxx)]
>>>>
>>>> [More detailed explanation of what has been done and what the fix
>>>> achieves,
>>>> sideeffects etc.]
>>>>
>>>> [Thanks:] [xxxx for ... and yyyy for]
>>>>
>>>> ===
>>>>
>>>> I think the Tortoise template would then be:
>>>>
>>>> ===
>>>>
>>>> Implemented: title
>>>>
>>>> Improved: title
>>>>
>>>> Fix for: title
>>>>
>>>> Documentation: title
>>>>
>>>> (OFBIZ-)
>>>>
>>>> blabla
>>>>
>>>> Thanks: x for
>>>>
>>>> ===
>>>>
>>>> Title should be put in the message without "".
>>>>
>>>> Tomorrow I will write down the specs in the Wiki with detailed
>>>> explanations.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 09.09.16 um 08:55 schrieb jleroux@apache.org:
>>>>
>>>>> Author: jleroux
>>>>> Date: Fri Sep 9 06:55:02 2016
>>>>> New Revision: 1759945
>>>>>
>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1759945&view=rev
>>>>> Log:
>>>>> No functionnal change, only a rough ToirtoiseSvn template for commits,
>>>>> can't have empty line (removed by ToirtoiseSvn)
>>>>>
>>>>> Modified:
>>>>> ofbiz/trunk/ (props changed)
>>>>>
>>>>> Propchange: ofbiz/trunk/
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> ------------------
>>>>> --- tsvn:logtemplatecommit (added)
>>>>> +++ tsvn:logtemplatecommit Fri Sep 9 06:55:02 2016
>>>>> @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@
>>>>> +Implements
>>>>> +Improvement for
>>>>> +Documents
>>>>> +Fix for
>>>>> +OFBIZ-
>>>>> +blabla
>>>>> +Thanks x to for
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
Re: svn commit: r1759945 - /ofbiz/trunk/
Posted by Scott Gray <sc...@hotwaxsystems.com>.
>
> to lessen (my) mouse and keyboard activity
After you typed such a large response that says so little, I found this
comment pretty hilarious.
Seriously though, I'm going to assume that Michael is looking for a
standard format and phrasing so that the text can be processed in some
automatic manner. If that is the case and you're refusing to follow it
simply because you prefer present-tense vs. past-tense, then I would argue
that you are indeed being contradictory. If the reasoning for strict
uniformity is just for the sake of it, then I agree that some
personalization is perfectly fine.
Regards
Scott
On 11 September 2016 at 10:47, Jacques Le Roux <jacques.le.roux@les7arts.com
> wrote:
> And to be as clear as possible, this is not motivated by a spirit of
> contradiction, but to lessen (my) mouse and keyboard activity
>
>
>
> Le 11/09/2016 à 00:39, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> I prefer to use Implements instead of Implemented. When I commit it's an
>> action, not something in the past. I got this habit while working with an
>> Englishman: Rupert Howell. Nothing better to get a habit in English
>> language than working with an Englishman. BTW, I still remember Adrian's
>> reaction when someone tried to learn him how to use English :)
>>
>> Of course this can be seen as a moot point. I think we need some
>> flexibility, we are not machines. Fortunately they are far from ready to
>> replace us doing this job ;)
>>
>> When I saw Jacopo using "Fix for:", I had a doubt (I'd use Fixes). I will
>> finally stick to Fixes to be consistent, but will keep the rest (Improves,
>> etc.) alike in the TortoiseSVN template.
>>
>> I did not put "'title" in order to save me to have to remove it. I just
>> write the title after the action. Most of the time the title will come from
>> the Jira title. Sometimes you need to change it, slightly or not, or to
>> create it if it does not come from Jira.
>>
>> I guess that you use parenthesis in (OFBIZ-) like IBM use(s/d?) [] in its
>> documentation to denote something optional. That would mean for me to have
>> to remove them most of the them. I don't want that.
>>
>> I put blaba, to say that I have to write something here (we use that in
>> French for yada yada). It's a kind of joke here. You can read my commit, I
>> learnt the hard way how to write something *meaningful* there (mostly
>> thanks to Adam I must say)
>>
>> Same for "thanks: x for"
>>
>> You see all what I did, was done on purpose. I committed this template
>> for myself. I guess I'm now the only committers using Windows, hence
>> TortoiseSVN. It's useless for others, they can forget it, else please chime
>> in.
>>
>> Now, I totally agree about the proposed template below and it should be
>> the reference for all of us in the wiki. But again we are not robots. I'll
>> not chase somebody if he uses "Fix for:" instead of "Fixes"
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> PS: you say <<Title should be put in the message without "". >> I don't
>> agree, it's a reference, I prefer to keep quotes around.
>>
>>
>> Le 10/09/2016 à 22:19, Michael Brohl a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi Jacques,
>>>
>>> following the latest version of our template proposal, the correct
>>> format would be:
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> [Implemented|Improved|Fix for|Documentation]: [Jira title|Free text]
>>> [(OFBIZ-xxxx)]
>>>
>>> [More detailed explanation of what has been done and what the fix
>>> achieves,
>>> sideeffects etc.]
>>>
>>> [Thanks:] [xxxx for ... and yyyy for]
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> I think the Tortoise template would then be:
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> Implemented: title
>>>
>>> Improved: title
>>>
>>> Fix for: title
>>>
>>> Documentation: title
>>>
>>> (OFBIZ-)
>>>
>>> blabla
>>>
>>> Thanks: x for
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> Title should be put in the message without "".
>>>
>>> Tomorrow I will write down the specs in the Wiki with detailed
>>> explanations.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 09.09.16 um 08:55 schrieb jleroux@apache.org:
>>>
>>>> Author: jleroux
>>>> Date: Fri Sep 9 06:55:02 2016
>>>> New Revision: 1759945
>>>>
>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1759945&view=rev
>>>> Log:
>>>> No functionnal change, only a rough ToirtoiseSvn template for commits,
>>>> can't have empty line (removed by ToirtoiseSvn)
>>>>
>>>> Modified:
>>>> ofbiz/trunk/ (props changed)
>>>>
>>>> Propchange: ofbiz/trunk/
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> ------------------
>>>> --- tsvn:logtemplatecommit (added)
>>>> +++ tsvn:logtemplatecommit Fri Sep 9 06:55:02 2016
>>>> @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@
>>>> +Implements
>>>> +Improvement for
>>>> +Documents
>>>> +Fix for
>>>> +OFBIZ-
>>>> +blabla
>>>> +Thanks x to for
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: svn commit: r1759945 - /ofbiz/trunk/
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
And to be as clear as possible, this is not motivated by a spirit of contradiction, but to lessen (my) mouse and keyboard activity
Le 11/09/2016 � 00:39, Jacques Le Roux a �crit :
> Hi Michael,
>
> I prefer to use Implements instead of Implemented. When I commit it's an action, not something in the past. I got this habit while working with an
> Englishman: Rupert Howell. Nothing better to get a habit in English language than working with an Englishman. BTW, I still remember Adrian's
> reaction when someone tried to learn him how to use English :)
>
> Of course this can be seen as a moot point. I think we need some flexibility, we are not machines. Fortunately they are far from ready to replace us
> doing this job ;)
>
> When I saw Jacopo using "Fix for:", I had a doubt (I'd use Fixes). I will finally stick to Fixes to be consistent, but will keep the rest (Improves,
> etc.) alike in the TortoiseSVN template.
>
> I did not put "'title" in order to save me to have to remove it. I just write the title after the action. Most of the time the title will come from
> the Jira title. Sometimes you need to change it, slightly or not, or to create it if it does not come from Jira.
>
> I guess that you use parenthesis in (OFBIZ-) like IBM use(s/d?) [] in its documentation to denote something optional. That would mean for me to have
> to remove them most of the them. I don't want that.
>
> I put blaba, to say that I have to write something here (we use that in French for yada yada). It's a kind of joke here. You can read my commit, I
> learnt the hard way how to write something *meaningful* there (mostly thanks to Adam I must say)
>
> Same for "thanks: x for"
>
> You see all what I did, was done on purpose. I committed this template for myself. I guess I'm now the only committers using Windows, hence
> TortoiseSVN. It's useless for others, they can forget it, else please chime in.
>
> Now, I totally agree about the proposed template below and it should be the reference for all of us in the wiki. But again we are not robots. I'll
> not chase somebody if he uses "Fix for:" instead of "Fixes"
>
> Thanks
>
> Jacques
>
> PS: you say <<Title should be put in the message without "". >> I don't agree, it's a reference, I prefer to keep quotes around.
>
>
> Le 10/09/2016 � 22:19, Michael Brohl a �crit :
>> Hi Jacques,
>>
>> following the latest version of our template proposal, the correct format would be:
>>
>> ===
>>
>> [Implemented|Improved|Fix for|Documentation]: [Jira title|Free text]
>> [(OFBIZ-xxxx)]
>>
>> [More detailed explanation of what has been done and what the fix achieves,
>> sideeffects etc.]
>>
>> [Thanks:] [xxxx for ... and yyyy for]
>>
>> ===
>>
>> I think the Tortoise template would then be:
>>
>> ===
>>
>> Implemented: title
>>
>> Improved: title
>>
>> Fix for: title
>>
>> Documentation: title
>>
>> (OFBIZ-)
>>
>> blabla
>>
>> Thanks: x for
>>
>> ===
>>
>> Title should be put in the message without "".
>>
>> Tomorrow I will write down the specs in the Wiki with detailed explanations.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> Am 09.09.16 um 08:55 schrieb jleroux@apache.org:
>>> Author: jleroux
>>> Date: Fri Sep 9 06:55:02 2016
>>> New Revision: 1759945
>>>
>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1759945&view=rev
>>> Log:
>>> No functionnal change, only a rough ToirtoiseSvn template for commits, can't have empty line (removed by ToirtoiseSvn)
>>>
>>> Modified:
>>> ofbiz/trunk/ (props changed)
>>>
>>> Propchange: ofbiz/trunk/
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> --- tsvn:logtemplatecommit (added)
>>> +++ tsvn:logtemplatecommit Fri Sep 9 06:55:02 2016
>>> @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@
>>> +Implements
>>> +Improvement for
>>> +Documents
>>> +Fix for
>>> +OFBIZ-
>>> +blabla
>>> +Thanks x to for
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: svn commit: r1759945 - /ofbiz/trunk/
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Hi Michael,
I prefer to use Implements instead of Implemented. When I commit it's an action, not something in the past. I got this habit while working with an
Englishman: Rupert Howell. Nothing better to get a habit in English language than working with an Englishman. BTW, I still remember Adrian's reaction
when someone tried to learn him how to use English :)
Of course this can be seen as a moot point. I think we need some flexibility, we are not machines. Fortunately they are far from ready to replace us
doing this job ;)
When I saw Jacopo using "Fix for:", I had a doubt (I'd use Fixes). I will finally stick to Fixes to be consistent, but will keep the rest (Improves,
etc.) alike in the TortoiseSVN template.
I did not put "'title" in order to save me to have to remove it. I just write the title after the action. Most of the time the title will come from
the Jira title. Sometimes you need to change it, slightly or not, or to create it if it does not come from Jira.
I guess that you use parenthesis in (OFBIZ-) like IBM use(s/d?) [] in its documentation to denote something optional. That would mean for me to have
to remove them most of the them. I don't want that.
I put blaba, to say that I have to write something here (we use that in French for yada yada). It's a kind of joke here. You can read my commit, I
learnt the hard way how to write something *meaningful* there (mostly thanks to Adam I must say)
Same for "thanks: x for"
You see all what I did, was done on purpose. I committed this template for myself. I guess I'm now the only committers using Windows, hence
TortoiseSVN. It's useless for others, they can forget it, else please chime in.
Now, I totally agree about the proposed template below and it should be the reference for all of us in the wiki. But again we are not robots. I'll not
chase somebody if he uses "Fix for:" instead of "Fixes"
Thanks
Jacques
PS: you say <<Title should be put in the message without "". >> I don't agree, it's a reference, I prefer to keep quotes around.
Le 10/09/2016 � 22:19, Michael Brohl a �crit :
> Hi Jacques,
>
> following the latest version of our template proposal, the correct format would be:
>
> ===
>
> [Implemented|Improved|Fix for|Documentation]: [Jira title|Free text]
> [(OFBIZ-xxxx)]
>
> [More detailed explanation of what has been done and what the fix achieves,
> sideeffects etc.]
>
> [Thanks:] [xxxx for ... and yyyy for]
>
> ===
>
> I think the Tortoise template would then be:
>
> ===
>
> Implemented: title
>
> Improved: title
>
> Fix for: title
>
> Documentation: title
>
> (OFBIZ-)
>
> blabla
>
> Thanks: x for
>
> ===
>
> Title should be put in the message without "".
>
> Tomorrow I will write down the specs in the Wiki with detailed explanations.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael
>
>
> Am 09.09.16 um 08:55 schrieb jleroux@apache.org:
>> Author: jleroux
>> Date: Fri Sep 9 06:55:02 2016
>> New Revision: 1759945
>>
>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1759945&view=rev
>> Log:
>> No functionnal change, only a rough ToirtoiseSvn template for commits, can't have empty line (removed by ToirtoiseSvn)
>>
>> Modified:
>> ofbiz/trunk/ (props changed)
>>
>> Propchange: ofbiz/trunk/
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> --- tsvn:logtemplatecommit (added)
>> +++ tsvn:logtemplatecommit Fri Sep 9 06:55:02 2016
>> @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@
>> +Implements
>> +Improvement for
>> +Documents
>> +Fix for
>> +OFBIZ-
>> +blabla
>> +Thanks x to for
>>
>>
>
>