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Posted to commits@ponymail.apache.org by se...@apache.org on 2020/08/28 23:22:37 UTC
[incubator-ponymail-unit-tests] branch master updated: Add some
more test files
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new d2100dd Add some more test files
d2100dd is described below
commit d2100ddb19ca35d9cb2c1ef2ff120b1f02c440c2
Author: Sebb <se...@apache.org>
AuthorDate: Sat Aug 29 00:22:17 2020 +0100
Add some more test files
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+hboutemy closed pull request #13: MRELEASE-980 Allow commit comments to be controlled
+URL: https://github.com/apache/maven-release/pull/13
+
+
+
+
+This is a PR merged from a forked repository.
+As GitHub hides the original diff on merge, it is displayed below for
+the sake of provenance:
+
+As this is a foreign pull request (from a fork), the diff is supplied
+below (as it won't show otherwise due to GitHub magic):
+
+diff --git a/maven-release-manager/src/main/components-fragment.xml b/maven-release-manager/src/main/components-fragment.xml
+index 5880c75f..97eca406 100644
+--- a/maven-release-manager/src/main/components-fragment.xml
++++ b/maven-release-manager/src/main/components-fragment.xml
+@@ -152,7 +152,7 @@
+ </requirement>
+ </requirements>
+ <configuration>
+- <messageFormat>prepare release {0}</messageFormat>
++ <descriptorCommentGetter>getScmReleaseCommitComment</descriptorCommentGetter>
+ </configuration>
+ </component>
+ <component>
+@@ -165,7 +165,7 @@
+ </requirement>
+ </requirements>
+ <configuration>
+- <messageFormat>prepare for next development iteration</messageFormat>
++ <descriptorCommentGetter>getScmDevelopmentCommitComment</descriptorCommentGetter>
+ <rollbackMessageFormat>rollback changes from release preparation of {0}</rollbackMessageFormat>
+ </configuration>
+ </component>
+@@ -179,7 +179,7 @@
+ </requirement>
+ </requirements>
+ <configuration>
+- <messageFormat>prepare branch {0}</messageFormat>
++ <descriptorCommentGetter>getScmBranchCommitComment</descriptorCommentGetter>
+ </configuration>
+ </component>
+ <component>
+@@ -192,7 +192,7 @@
+ </requirement>
+ </requirements>
+ <configuration>
+- <messageFormat>rollback the release of {0}</messageFormat>
++ <descriptorCommentGetter>getScmRollbackCommitComment</descriptorCommentGetter>
+ </configuration>
+ </component>
+ <component>
+diff --git a/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/config/PropertiesReleaseDescriptorStore.java b/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/config/PropertiesReleaseDescriptorStore.java
+index 235517b6..559a4921 100644
+--- a/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/config/PropertiesReleaseDescriptorStore.java
++++ b/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/config/PropertiesReleaseDescriptorStore.java
+@@ -211,6 +211,22 @@ public void write( ReleaseDescriptor config, File file )
+ {
+ properties.setProperty( "scm.commentPrefix", config.getScmCommentPrefix() );
+ }
++ if ( config.getScmDevelopmentCommitComment() != null )
++ {
++ properties.setProperty( "scm.developmentCommitComment", config.getScmDevelopmentCommitComment() );
++ }
++ if ( config.getScmReleaseCommitComment() != null )
++ {
++ properties.setProperty( "scm.releaseCommitComment", config.getScmReleaseCommitComment() );
++ }
++ if ( config.getScmBranchCommitComment() != null )
++ {
++ properties.setProperty( "scm.branchCommitComment", config.getScmBranchCommitComment() );
++ }
++ if ( config.getScmRollbackCommitComment() != null )
++ {
++ properties.setProperty( "scm.rollbackCommitComment", config.getScmRollbackCommitComment() );
++ }
+ if ( config.getAdditionalArguments() != null )
+ {
+ properties.setProperty( "exec.additionalArguments", config.getAdditionalArguments() );
+diff --git a/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/config/ReleaseUtils.java b/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/config/ReleaseUtils.java
+index 522fef4a..5dca5b8a 100644
+--- a/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/config/ReleaseUtils.java
++++ b/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/config/ReleaseUtils.java
+@@ -69,6 +69,16 @@ public static ReleaseDescriptor merge( ReleaseDescriptor mergeInto, ReleaseDescr
+ mergeOverride( mergeInto.getScmPrivateKeyPassPhrase(), toBeMerged.getScmPrivateKeyPassPhrase() ) );
+ mergeInto.setScmCommentPrefix(
+ mergeOverride( mergeInto.getScmCommentPrefix(), toBeMerged.getScmCommentPrefix() ) );
++ mergeInto.setScmDevelopmentCommitComment(
++ mergeOverride(
++ mergeInto.getScmDevelopmentCommitComment(),
++ toBeMerged.getScmDevelopmentCommitComment() ) );
++ mergeInto.setScmReleaseCommitComment(
++ mergeOverride( mergeInto.getScmReleaseCommitComment(), toBeMerged.getScmReleaseCommitComment() ) );
++ mergeInto.setScmBranchCommitComment(
++ mergeOverride( mergeInto.getScmBranchCommitComment(), toBeMerged.getScmBranchCommitComment() ) );
++ mergeInto.setScmRollbackCommitComment(
++ mergeOverride( mergeInto.getScmRollbackCommitComment(), toBeMerged.getScmRollbackCommitComment() ) );
+ mergeInto.setAdditionalArguments(
+ mergeOverride( mergeInto.getAdditionalArguments(), toBeMerged.getAdditionalArguments() ) );
+ mergeInto.setPreparationGoals(
+@@ -158,6 +168,23 @@ public static ReleaseDescriptor copyPropertiesToReleaseDescriptor( Properties pr
+ releaseDescriptor.setScmBranchBase( properties.getProperty( "scm.branchBase" ) );
+ releaseDescriptor.setScmReleaseLabel( properties.getProperty( "scm.tag" ) );
+ releaseDescriptor.setScmCommentPrefix( properties.getProperty( "scm.commentPrefix" ) );
++ if ( properties.getProperty( "scm.releaseCommitComment" ) != null )
++ {
++ releaseDescriptor.setScmReleaseCommitComment( properties.getProperty( "scm.releaseCommitComment" ) );
++ }
++ if ( properties.getProperty( "scm.developmentCommitComment" ) != null )
++ {
++ releaseDescriptor.setScmDevelopmentCommitComment(
++ properties.getProperty( "scm.developmentCommitComment" ) );
++ }
++ if ( properties.getProperty( "scm.branchCommitComment" ) != null )
++ {
++ releaseDescriptor.setScmBranchCommitComment( properties.getProperty( "scm.branchCommitComment" ) );
++ }
++ if ( properties.getProperty( "scm.rollbackCommitComment" ) != null )
++ {
++ releaseDescriptor.setScmRollbackCommitComment( properties.getProperty( "scm.rollbackCommitComment" ) );
++ }
+ releaseDescriptor.setAdditionalArguments( properties.getProperty( "exec.additionalArguments" ) );
+ releaseDescriptor.setPomFileName( properties.getProperty( "exec.pomFileName" ) );
+ releaseDescriptor.setPreparationGoals( properties.getProperty( "preparationGoals" ) );
+diff --git a/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/phase/AbstractScmCommitPhase.java b/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/phase/AbstractScmCommitPhase.java
+index 990060d7..e67fd267 100644
+--- a/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/phase/AbstractScmCommitPhase.java
++++ b/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/phase/AbstractScmCommitPhase.java
+@@ -39,7 +39,6 @@
+ import org.apache.maven.shared.release.util.ReleaseUtil;
+
+ import java.io.File;
+-import java.text.MessageFormat;
+ import java.util.ArrayList;
+ import java.util.Collection;
+ import java.util.List;
+@@ -63,9 +62,9 @@
+ protected ScmRepositoryConfigurator scmRepositoryConfigurator;
+
+ /**
+- * The format for the commit message.
++ * The getter in the descriptor for the comment.
+ */
+- protected String messageFormat;
++ protected String descriptorCommentGetter;
+
+ public ReleaseResult execute( ReleaseDescriptor releaseDescriptor, ReleaseEnvironment releaseEnvironment,
+ List<MavenProject> reactorProjects )
+@@ -186,10 +185,47 @@ protected void validateConfiguration( ReleaseDescriptor releaseDescriptor )
+ }
+ }
+
+- protected String createMessage( ReleaseDescriptor releaseDescriptor )
++ protected String createMessage( List<MavenProject> reactorProjects,
++ ReleaseDescriptor releaseDescriptor )
++ throws ReleaseExecutionException
+ {
+- return MessageFormat.format( releaseDescriptor.getScmCommentPrefix() + messageFormat,
+- new Object[]{releaseDescriptor.getScmReleaseLabel()} );
++ String comment;
++ boolean branch = false;
++ if ( "getScmReleaseCommitComment".equals( descriptorCommentGetter ) )
++ {
++ comment = releaseDescriptor.getScmReleaseCommitComment();
++ }
++ else if ( "getScmDevelopmentCommitComment".equals( descriptorCommentGetter ) )
++ {
++ comment = releaseDescriptor.getScmDevelopmentCommitComment();
++ }
++ else if ( "getScmBranchCommitComment".equals( descriptorCommentGetter ) )
++ {
++ comment = releaseDescriptor.getScmBranchCommitComment();
++ branch = true;
++ }
++ else if ( "getScmRollbackCommitComment".equals( descriptorCommentGetter ) )
++ {
++ comment = releaseDescriptor.getScmRollbackCommitComment();
++ }
++ else
++ {
++ throw new ReleaseExecutionException( "Invalid configuration in components-fragment.xml" );
++ }
++
++ MavenProject project = ReleaseUtil.getRootProject( reactorProjects );
++ comment = comment.replace( "@{prefix}", releaseDescriptor.getScmCommentPrefix().trim() );
++ comment = comment.replace( "@{groupId}", project.getGroupId() );
++ comment = comment.replace( "@{artifactId}", project.getArtifactId() );
++ if ( branch )
++ {
++ comment = comment.replace( "@{branchName}", releaseDescriptor.getScmReleaseLabel() );
++ }
++ else
++ {
++ comment = comment.replace( "@{releaseLabel}", releaseDescriptor.getScmReleaseLabel() );
++ }
++ return comment;
+ }
+
+ protected static List<File> createPomFiles( ReleaseDescriptor releaseDescriptor, MavenProject project )
+diff --git a/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/phase/ScmCommitDevelopmentPhase.java b/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/phase/ScmCommitDevelopmentPhase.java
+index 889b9c35..a1fc956e 100644
+--- a/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/phase/ScmCommitDevelopmentPhase.java
++++ b/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/phase/ScmCommitDevelopmentPhase.java
+@@ -78,13 +78,13 @@ protected void runLogic( ReleaseDescriptor releaseDescriptor, ReleaseEnvironment
+ else
+ {
+ // a normal commit
+- message = createMessage( releaseDescriptor );
++ message = createMessage( reactorProjects, releaseDescriptor );
+ }
+ if ( simulating )
+ {
+ Collection<File> pomFiles = createPomFiles( releaseDescriptor, reactorProjects );
+ logInfo( result,
+- "Full run would be commit " + pomFiles.size() + " files with message: '" + message + "'" );
++ "Full run would commit " + pomFiles.size() + " files with message: '" + message + "'" );
+ }
+ else
+ {
+diff --git a/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/phase/ScmCommitPreparationPhase.java b/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/phase/ScmCommitPreparationPhase.java
+index 8c65a60a..1bee2fb4 100644
+--- a/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/phase/ScmCommitPreparationPhase.java
++++ b/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/phase/ScmCommitPreparationPhase.java
+@@ -28,7 +28,6 @@
+ import org.apache.maven.shared.release.scm.ReleaseScmCommandException;
+ import org.apache.maven.shared.release.scm.ReleaseScmRepositoryException;
+
+-import java.text.MessageFormat;
+ import java.util.List;
+
+ /**
+@@ -40,11 +39,6 @@
+ extends AbstractScmCommitPhase
+ {
+
+- /**
+- * The format for the
+- */
+- private String rollbackMessageFormat;
+-
+ protected void runLogic( ReleaseDescriptor releaseDescriptor, ReleaseEnvironment releaseEnvironment,
+ List<MavenProject> reactorProjects, ReleaseResult result, boolean simulating )
+ throws ReleaseScmCommandException, ReleaseExecutionException, ReleaseScmRepositoryException
+@@ -65,8 +59,7 @@ protected void runLogic( ReleaseDescriptor releaseDescriptor, ReleaseEnvironment
+ // commit development versions required
+ else
+ {
+- String message = createMessage( releaseDescriptor );
+-
++ String message = createMessage( reactorProjects, releaseDescriptor );
+ if ( simulating )
+ {
+ simulateCheckins( releaseDescriptor, reactorProjects, result, message );
+@@ -78,12 +71,6 @@ protected void runLogic( ReleaseDescriptor releaseDescriptor, ReleaseEnvironment
+ }
+ }
+
+- private String createRollbackMessage( ReleaseDescriptor releaseDescriptor )
+- {
+- return MessageFormat.format( releaseDescriptor.getScmCommentPrefix() + rollbackMessageFormat,
+- new Object[]{releaseDescriptor.getScmReleaseLabel()} );
+- }
+-
+ protected void validateConfiguration( ReleaseDescriptor releaseDescriptor )
+ throws ReleaseFailureException
+ {
+diff --git a/maven-release-manager/src/main/mdo/release-descriptor.mdo b/maven-release-manager/src/main/mdo/release-descriptor.mdo
+index f62b0ffd..c8defbc7 100644
+--- a/maven-release-manager/src/main/mdo/release-descriptor.mdo
++++ b/maven-release-manager/src/main/mdo/release-descriptor.mdo
+@@ -69,6 +69,42 @@
+ </description>
+ </field>
+ <field>
++ <name>scmReleaseCommitComment</name>
++ <version>3.0.0+</version>
++ <type>String</type>
++ <defaultValue>@{prefix} prepare release @{releaseLabel}</defaultValue>
++ <description>
++ The SCM commit comment when setting pom.xml to release
++ </description>
++ </field>
++ <field>
++ <name>scmDevelopmentCommitComment</name>
++ <version>3.0.0+</version>
++ <type>String</type>
++ <defaultValue>@{prefix} prepare for next development iteration</defaultValue>
++ <description>
++ The SCM commit comment when setting pom.xml back to development
++ </description>
++ </field>
++ <field>
++ <name>scmBranchCommitComment</name>
++ <version>3.0.0+</version>
++ <type>String</type>
++ <defaultValue>@{prefix} prepare branch @{releaseLabel}</defaultValue>
++ <description>
++ The SCM commit comment when branching
++ </description>
++ </field>
++ <field>
++ <name>scmRollbackCommitComment</name>
++ <version>3.0.0+</version>
++ <type>String</type>
++ <defaultValue>@{prefix} rollback the release of @{releaseLabel}</defaultValue>
++ <description>
++ The SCM commit comment when rolling back
++ </description>
++ </field>
++ <field>
+ <name>scmSourceUrl</name>
+ <version>1.0.0+</version>
+ <type>String</type>
+@@ -793,6 +829,22 @@
+ {
+ return false;
+ }
++ if ( !safeEquals( scmDevelopmentCommitComment, that.scmDevelopmentCommitComment ) )
++ {
++ return false;
++ }
++ if ( !safeEquals( scmReleaseCommitComment, that.scmReleaseCommitComment ) )
++ {
++ return false;
++ }
++ if ( !safeEquals( scmBranchCommitComment, that.scmBranchCommitComment ) )
++ {
++ return false;
++ }
++ if ( !safeEquals( scmRollbackCommitComment, that.scmRollbackCommitComment ) )
++ {
++ return false;
++ }
+ if ( !safeEquals( scmPrivateKeyPassPhrase, that.scmPrivateKeyPassPhrase ) )
+ {
+ return false;
+@@ -921,6 +973,10 @@
+ result = 29 * result + ( completionGoals != null ? completionGoals.hashCode() : 0 );
+ result = 29 * result + ( pomFileName != null ? pomFileName.hashCode() : 0 );
+ result = 29 * result + ( checkModificationExcludes != null ? checkModificationExcludes.hashCode() : 0 );
++ result = 29 * result + ( scmDevelopmentCommitComment != null ? scmDevelopmentCommitComment.hashCode() : 0 );
++ result = 29 * result + ( scmReleaseCommitComment != null ? scmReleaseCommitComment.hashCode() : 0 );
++ result = 29 * result + ( scmBranchCommitComment != null ? scmBranchCommitComment.hashCode() : 0 );
++ result = 29 * result + ( scmRollbackCommitComment != null ? scmRollbackCommitComment.hashCode() : 0 );
+ result = 29 * result + ( scmTagBase != null ? scmTagBase.hashCode() : 0 );
+ result = 29 * result + ( scmBranchBase != null ? scmBranchBase.hashCode() : 0 );
+ result = 29 * result + ( scmUsername != null ? scmUsername.hashCode() : 0 );
+diff --git a/maven-release-manager/src/test/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/phase/ScmCommitDevelopmentPhaseTest.java b/maven-release-manager/src/test/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/phase/ScmCommitDevelopmentPhaseTest.java
+index 56875c0a..14f99938 100644
+--- a/maven-release-manager/src/test/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/phase/ScmCommitDevelopmentPhaseTest.java
++++ b/maven-release-manager/src/test/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/phase/ScmCommitDevelopmentPhaseTest.java
+@@ -118,6 +118,21 @@ public void testCommitsNextVersions()
+ }
+
+ @Test
++ public void testCommitsNextVersionsAlternateMessage()
++ throws Exception
++ {
++ descriptor.setUpdateWorkingCopyVersions( true );
++ descriptor.setScmCommentPrefix("[release]");
++ descriptor.setScmDevelopmentCommitComment("@{prefix} Development of @{groupId}:@{artifactId}");
++
++ prepareCheckin( "[release] Development of groupId:artifactId" );
++
++ phase.execute( descriptor, new DefaultReleaseEnvironment(), reactorProjects );
++
++ verifyCheckin( "[release] Development of groupId:artifactId" );
++ }
++
++ @Test
+ public void testCommitsRollbackPrepare()
+ throws Exception
+ {
+diff --git a/maven-release-manager/src/test/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/phase/ScmCommitPreparationPhaseTest.java b/maven-release-manager/src/test/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/phase/ScmCommitPreparationPhaseTest.java
+index 9cc7256c..ec825074 100644
+--- a/maven-release-manager/src/test/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/phase/ScmCommitPreparationPhaseTest.java
++++ b/maven-release-manager/src/test/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/phase/ScmCommitPreparationPhaseTest.java
+@@ -129,6 +129,41 @@ public void testCommit()
+ }
+
+ @Test
++ public void testCommitAlternateMessage()
++ throws Exception
++ {
++ // prepare
++ List<MavenProject> reactorProjects = createReactorProjects();
++ ReleaseDescriptor descriptor = new ReleaseDescriptor();
++ descriptor.setScmSourceUrl( "scm-url" );
++ descriptor.setScmCommentPrefix("[release]");
++ descriptor.setScmReleaseCommitComment("@{prefix} Release of @{groupId}:@{artifactId} @{releaseLabel}");
++ MavenProject rootProject = ReleaseUtil.getRootProject( reactorProjects );
++ descriptor.setWorkingDirectory( rootProject.getFile().getParentFile().getAbsolutePath() );
++ descriptor.setScmReleaseLabel( "release-label" );
++
++ ScmFileSet fileSet = new ScmFileSet( rootProject.getFile().getParentFile(), rootProject.getFile() );
++
++ ScmProvider scmProviderMock = mock( ScmProvider.class );
++ when( scmProviderMock.checkIn( isA( ScmRepository.class ), argThat( new IsScmFileSetEquals( fileSet ) ),
++ isNull( ScmVersion.class ),
++ eq( "[release] Release of groupId:artifactId release-label" ) ) ).thenReturn( new CheckInScmResult( "...",
++ Collections.singletonList( new ScmFile( rootProject.getFile().getPath(),
++ ScmFileStatus.CHECKED_IN ) ) ) );
++
++ ScmManagerStub stub = (ScmManagerStub) lookup( ScmManager.ROLE );
++ stub.setScmProvider( scmProviderMock );
++
++ // execute
++ phase.execute( descriptor, new DefaultReleaseEnvironment(), reactorProjects );
++
++ // verify
++ verify( scmProviderMock ).checkIn( isA( ScmRepository.class ), argThat( new IsScmFileSetEquals( fileSet ) ),
++ isNull( ScmVersion.class ), eq( "[release] Release of groupId:artifactId release-label" ) );
++ verifyNoMoreInteractions( scmProviderMock );
++ }
++
++ @Test
+ public void testCommitMultiModule()
+ throws Exception
+ {
+@@ -204,6 +239,44 @@ public void testCommitDevelopment()
+ }
+
+ @Test
++ public void testCommitDevelopmentAlternateMessage()
++ throws Exception
++ {
++ // prepare
++ phase = (ReleasePhase) lookup( ReleasePhase.ROLE, "scm-commit-development" );
++
++ ReleaseDescriptor descriptor = new ReleaseDescriptor();
++ List<MavenProject> reactorProjects = createReactorProjects();
++ descriptor.setScmSourceUrl( "scm-url" );
++ descriptor.setScmCommentPrefix("[release]");
++ descriptor.setScmDevelopmentCommitComment("@{prefix} Bump version of @{groupId}:@{artifactId} after @{releaseLabel}");
++ MavenProject rootProject = ReleaseUtil.getRootProject( reactorProjects );
++ descriptor.setWorkingDirectory( rootProject.getFile().getParentFile().getAbsolutePath() );
++ descriptor.setScmReleaseLabel( "release-label" );
++
++ ScmFileSet fileSet = new ScmFileSet( rootProject.getFile().getParentFile(), rootProject.getFile() );
++
++ ScmProvider scmProviderMock = mock( ScmProvider.class );
++ when( scmProviderMock.checkIn( isA( ScmRepository.class ), argThat( new IsScmFileSetEquals( fileSet ) ),
++ isNull( ScmVersion.class ),
++ eq( "[release] Bump version of groupId:artifactId after release-label" ) ) ).thenReturn( new CheckInScmResult( "...",
++ Collections.singletonList( new ScmFile( rootProject.getFile().getPath(),
++ ScmFileStatus.CHECKED_IN ) ) ) );
++
++ ScmManagerStub stub = (ScmManagerStub) lookup( ScmManager.ROLE );
++ stub.setScmProvider( scmProviderMock );
++
++ // execute
++ phase.execute( descriptor, new DefaultReleaseEnvironment(), reactorProjects );
++
++ // verify
++ verify( scmProviderMock ).checkIn( isA( ScmRepository.class ), argThat( new IsScmFileSetEquals( fileSet ) ),
++ isNull( ScmVersion.class ),
++ eq( "[release] Bump version of groupId:artifactId after release-label" ) );
++ verifyNoMoreInteractions( scmProviderMock );
++ }
++
++ @Test
+ public void testCommitNoReleaseLabel()
+ throws Exception
+ {
+diff --git a/maven-release-plugin/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/plugins/release/BranchReleaseMojo.java b/maven-release-plugin/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/plugins/release/BranchReleaseMojo.java
+index 03aa31be..9884334a 100644
+--- a/maven-release-plugin/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/plugins/release/BranchReleaseMojo.java
++++ b/maven-release-plugin/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/plugins/release/BranchReleaseMojo.java
+@@ -207,6 +207,25 @@
+ private String projectNamingPolicyId;
+
+ /**
++ * The SCM commit comment when branching.
++ * Defaults to "@{prefix} prepare branch @{releaseLabel}".
++ * <p>
++ * Property interpolation is performed on the value, but in order to ensure that the interpolation occurs
++ * during release, you must use <code>@{...}</code> to reference the properties rather than <code>${...}</code>.
++ * The following properties are available:
++ * <ul>
++ * <li><code>prefix</code> - The comment prefix.
++ * <li><code>groupId</code> - The groupId of the root project.
++ * <li><code>artifactId</code> - The artifactId of the root project.
++ * <li><code>releaseLabel</code> - The release version of the root project.
++ * </ul>
++ *
++ * @since 3.0.0
++ */
++ @Parameter( defaultValue = "@{prefix} prepare branch @{releaseLabel}", property = "scmBranchCommitComment" )
++ private String scmBranchCommitComment = "@{prefix} prepare branch @{releaseLabel}";
++
++ /**
+ * {@inheritDoc}
+ */
+ public void execute()
+@@ -231,6 +250,7 @@ public void execute()
+ config.setSuppressCommitBeforeTagOrBranch( suppressCommitBeforeBranch );
+ config.setProjectVersionPolicyId( projectVersionPolicyId );
+ config.setProjectNamingPolicyId( projectNamingPolicyId );
++ config.setScmBranchCommitComment( scmBranchCommitComment );
+
+ // Create a config containing values from the session properties (ie command line properties with cli).
+ ReleaseDescriptor sysPropertiesConfig
+diff --git a/maven-release-plugin/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/plugins/release/PrepareReleaseMojo.java b/maven-release-plugin/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/plugins/release/PrepareReleaseMojo.java
+index 852f61cd..a0ae3b2d 100644
+--- a/maven-release-plugin/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/plugins/release/PrepareReleaseMojo.java
++++ b/maven-release-plugin/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/plugins/release/PrepareReleaseMojo.java
+@@ -234,6 +234,46 @@
+ private String projectNamingPolicyId;
+
+ /**
++ * The SCM commit comment when setting pom.xml to release.
++ * Defaults to "@{prefix} prepare release @{releaseLabel}".
++ * <p>
++ * Property interpolation is performed on the value, but in order to ensure that the interpolation occurs
++ * during release, you must use <code>@{...}</code> to reference the properties rather than <code>${...}</code>.
++ * The following properties are available:
++ * <ul>
++ * <li><code>prefix</code> - The comment prefix.
++ * <li><code>groupId</code> - The groupId of the root project.
++ * <li><code>artifactId</code> - The artifactId of the root project.
++ * <li><code>releaseLabel</code> - The release version of the root project.
++ * </ul>
++ *
++ * @since 3.0.0
++ */
++ @Parameter( defaultValue = "@{prefix} prepare release @{releaseLabel}", property = "scmReleaseCommitComment" )
++ private String scmReleaseCommitComment = "@{prefix} prepare release @{releaseLabel}";
++
++ /**
++ * The SCM commit comment when setting pom.xml back to development.
++ * Defaults to "@{prefix} prepare for next development iteration".
++ * <p>
++ * Property interpolation is performed on the value, but in order to ensure that the interpolation occurs
++ * during release, you must use <code>@{...}</code> to reference the properties rather than <code>${...}</code>.
++ * The following properties are available:
++ * <ul>
++ * <li><code>prefix</code> - The comment prefix.
++ * <li><code>groupId</code> - The groupId of the root project.
++ * <li><code>artifactId</code> - The artifactId of the root project.
++ * <li><code>releaseLabel</code> - The release version of the root project.
++ * </ul>
++ *
++ * @since 3.0.0
++ */
++ @Parameter(
++ defaultValue = "@{prefix} prepare for next development iteration",
++ property = "scmDevelopmentCommitComment" )
++ private String scmDevelopmentCommitComment = "@{prefix} prepare for next development iteration";
++
++ /**
+ * {@inheritDoc}
+ */
+ public void execute()
+@@ -274,6 +314,8 @@ protected void prepareRelease( boolean generateReleasePoms )
+ config.setWaitBeforeTagging( waitBeforeTagging );
+ config.setProjectVersionPolicyId( projectVersionPolicyId );
+ config.setProjectNamingPolicyId( projectNamingPolicyId );
++ config.setScmDevelopmentCommitComment( scmDevelopmentCommitComment );
++ config.setScmReleaseCommitComment( scmReleaseCommitComment );
+
+ if ( checkModificationExcludeList != null )
+ {
+diff --git a/maven-release-plugin/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/plugins/release/RollbackReleaseMojo.java b/maven-release-plugin/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/plugins/release/RollbackReleaseMojo.java
+index fd0cad07..2fc60d29 100644
+--- a/maven-release-plugin/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/plugins/release/RollbackReleaseMojo.java
++++ b/maven-release-plugin/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/plugins/release/RollbackReleaseMojo.java
+@@ -22,6 +22,7 @@
+ import org.apache.maven.plugin.MojoExecutionException;
+ import org.apache.maven.plugin.MojoFailureException;
+ import org.apache.maven.plugins.annotations.Mojo;
++import org.apache.maven.plugins.annotations.Parameter;
+ import org.apache.maven.shared.release.ReleaseExecutionException;
+ import org.apache.maven.shared.release.ReleaseFailureException;
+ import org.apache.maven.shared.release.config.ReleaseDescriptor;
+@@ -42,6 +43,27 @@
+ {
+
+ /**
++ * The SCM commit comment when rolling back.
++ * Defaults to "@{prefix} rollback the release of @{releaseLabel}".
++ * <p>
++ * Property interpolation is performed on the value, but in order to ensure that the interpolation occurs
++ * during release, you must use <code>@{...}</code> to reference the properties rather than <code>${...}</code>.
++ * The following properties are available:
++ * <ul>
++ * <li><code>prefix</code> - The comment prefix.
++ * <li><code>groupId</code> - The groupId of the root project.
++ * <li><code>artifactId</code> - The artifactId of the root project.
++ * <li><code>releaseLabel</code> - The release version of the root project.
++ * </ul>
++ *
++ * @since 3.0.0
++ */
++ @Parameter(
++ defaultValue = "@{prefix} rollback the release of @{releaseLabel}",
++ property = "scmRollbackCommitComment" )
++ private String scmRollbackCommitComment = "@{prefix} rollback the release of @{releaseLabel}";
++
++ /**
+ * {@inheritDoc}
+ */
+ public void execute()
+@@ -50,6 +72,7 @@ public void execute()
+ super.execute();
+
+ ReleaseDescriptor config = createReleaseDescriptor();
++ config.setScmRollbackCommitComment( scmRollbackCommitComment );
+
+ try
+ {
+
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+hboutemy closed pull request #4: [MRELEASE-798] Commit additional files with release plugin
+URL: https://github.com/apache/maven-release/pull/4
+
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+diff --git a/maven-release-manager/pom.xml b/maven-release-manager/pom.xml
+index bd209a31..eba20925 100644
+--- a/maven-release-manager/pom.xml
++++ b/maven-release-manager/pom.xml
+@@ -234,7 +234,7 @@
+ </execution>
+ </executions>
+ <configuration>
+- <version>2.3.0</version>
++ <version>2.3.1</version>
+ <packageWithVersion>false</packageWithVersion>
+ <useJava5>true</useJava5>
+ <models>
+diff --git a/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/config/PropertiesReleaseDescriptorStore.java b/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/config/PropertiesReleaseDescriptorStore.java
+index 32be254e..99cf4523 100644
+--- a/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/config/PropertiesReleaseDescriptorStore.java
++++ b/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/config/PropertiesReleaseDescriptorStore.java
+@@ -36,6 +36,7 @@
+ import org.apache.maven.shared.release.scm.IdentifiedScm;
+ import org.codehaus.plexus.logging.AbstractLogEnabled;
+ import org.codehaus.plexus.util.IOUtil;
++import org.codehaus.plexus.util.StringUtils;
+ import org.sonatype.plexus.components.cipher.DefaultPlexusCipher;
+ import org.sonatype.plexus.components.cipher.PlexusCipherException;
+ import org.sonatype.plexus.components.sec.dispatcher.DefaultSecDispatcher;
+@@ -135,6 +136,10 @@ public void write( ReleaseDescriptor config, File file )
+ {
+ properties.setProperty( "commitByProject", "true" );
+ }
++ if ( config.getAdditionalCommittedIncludes() != null )
++ {
++ properties.setProperty( "additionalCommittedIncludes", config.getAdditionalCommittedIncludes() );
++ }
+ properties.setProperty( "scm.url", config.getScmSourceUrl() );
+ if ( config.getScmId() != null )
+ {
+diff --git a/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/config/ReleaseUtils.java b/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/config/ReleaseUtils.java
+index 3f705909..096e9ade 100644
+--- a/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/config/ReleaseUtils.java
++++ b/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/config/ReleaseUtils.java
+@@ -27,6 +27,7 @@
+ import java.util.Set;
+
+ import org.apache.maven.shared.release.scm.IdentifiedScm;
++import org.codehaus.plexus.util.StringUtils;
+
+ /**
+ * Class providing utility methods used during the release process
+@@ -120,6 +121,7 @@ public static ReleaseDescriptor merge( ReleaseDescriptor mergeInto, ReleaseDescr
+ // Not overridden - not configured from caller
+ mergeInto.setCompletedPhase( mergeDefault( mergeInto.getCompletedPhase(), toBeMerged.getCompletedPhase() ) );
+
++ mergeInto.setAdditionalCommittedIncludes(mergeOverride(mergeInto.getAdditionalCommittedIncludes(), toBeMerged.getAdditionalCommittedIncludes()));
+ return mergeInto;
+ }
+
+@@ -169,6 +171,12 @@ public static ReleaseDescriptor copyPropertiesToReleaseDescriptor( Properties pr
+ String pushChanges = properties.getProperty( "pushChanges" );
+ releaseDescriptor.setPushChanges( pushChanges == null ? true : Boolean.valueOf( pushChanges ).booleanValue() );
+
++ String additionalCommitedIncludes = properties.getProperty( "additionalCommittedIncludes" ) ;
++ if ( StringUtils.isNotBlank(additionalCommitedIncludes) )
++ {
++ releaseDescriptor.setAdditionalCommittedIncludes(additionalCommitedIncludes);
++ }
++
+ loadResolvedDependencies( properties, releaseDescriptor );
+
+ // boolean properties are not written to the properties file because the value from the caller is always used
+diff --git a/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/phase/AbstractScmCommitPhase.java b/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/phase/AbstractScmCommitPhase.java
+index 65800aef..f79940b7 100644
+--- a/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/phase/AbstractScmCommitPhase.java
++++ b/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/phase/AbstractScmCommitPhase.java
+@@ -37,6 +37,7 @@
+ import org.apache.maven.shared.release.scm.ReleaseScmRepositoryException;
+ import org.apache.maven.shared.release.scm.ScmRepositoryConfigurator;
+ import org.apache.maven.shared.release.util.ReleaseUtil;
++import org.codehaus.plexus.util.DirectoryScanner;
+
+ import java.io.File;
+ import java.text.MessageFormat;
+@@ -132,7 +133,11 @@ protected void performCheckins( ReleaseDescriptor releaseDescriptor, ReleaseEnvi
+ for ( MavenProject project : reactorProjects )
+ {
+ List<File> pomFiles = createPomFiles( releaseDescriptor, project );
+- ScmFileSet fileSet = new ScmFileSet( project.getFile().getParentFile(), pomFiles );
++ List<File> additionalFiles = createAdditionalFiles(releaseDescriptor, project) ;
++ List<File> files = new ArrayList<File>() ;
++ files.addAll(pomFiles);
++ files.addAll(additionalFiles) ;
++ ScmFileSet fileSet = new ScmFileSet( project.getFile().getParentFile(), files );
+
+ checkin( provider, repository, fileSet, releaseDescriptor, message );
+ }
+@@ -140,7 +145,11 @@ protected void performCheckins( ReleaseDescriptor releaseDescriptor, ReleaseEnvi
+ else
+ {
+ List<File> pomFiles = createPomFiles( releaseDescriptor, reactorProjects );
+- ScmFileSet fileSet = new ScmFileSet( new File( releaseDescriptor.getWorkingDirectory() ), pomFiles );
++ List<File> additionalFiles = createAdditionalFiles(releaseDescriptor, reactorProjects) ;
++ List<File> files = new ArrayList<File>() ;
++ files.addAll(pomFiles);
++ files.addAll(additionalFiles) ;
++ ScmFileSet fileSet = new ScmFileSet( new File( releaseDescriptor.getWorkingDirectory() ), files );
+
+ checkin( provider, repository, fileSet, releaseDescriptor, message );
+ }
+@@ -174,7 +183,11 @@ protected void simulateCheckins( ReleaseDescriptor releaseDescriptor, List<Maven
+ String message )
+ {
+ Collection<File> pomFiles = createPomFiles( releaseDescriptor, reactorProjects );
+- logInfo( result, "Full run would be commit " + pomFiles.size() + " files with message: '" + message + "'" );
++ Collection<File> additionalFiles = createAdditionalFiles(releaseDescriptor, reactorProjects) ;
++ Collection<File> files = new ArrayList<File>() ;
++ files.addAll(pomFiles) ;
++ files.addAll(additionalFiles) ;
++ logInfo( result, "Full run would be commit " + files.size() + " files with message: '" + message + "'" );
+ }
+
+ protected void validateConfiguration( ReleaseDescriptor releaseDescriptor )
+@@ -215,4 +228,43 @@ protected String createMessage( ReleaseDescriptor releaseDescriptor )
+ }
+ return pomFiles;
+ }
++
++ protected static List<File> createAdditionalFiles( ReleaseDescriptor releaseDescriptor, MavenProject project )
++ {
++
++ List<File> additionalFiles = new ArrayList<File>();
++ if(releaseDescriptor.getAdditionalCommittedIncludes() != null) {
++ String[] additionalIncludes = releaseDescriptor.getAdditionalCommittedIncludes().replaceAll( "\\s", "" ).split( "," ); ;
++
++ if(additionalIncludes != null && additionalIncludes.length !=0) {
++
++ File baseDir = project.getBasedir() ;
++
++ DirectoryScanner scanner = new DirectoryScanner();
++ scanner.setBasedir(baseDir);
++ scanner.setIncludes(additionalIncludes);
++
++ scanner.scan();
++
++ if(scanner.getIncludedFiles() != null) {
++ for(String file : scanner.getIncludedFiles()) {
++ additionalFiles.add(new File(baseDir, file)) ;
++ }
++ }
++
++ }
++ }
++
++ return additionalFiles;
++ }
++
++ protected static List<File> createAdditionalFiles( ReleaseDescriptor releaseDescriptor, List<MavenProject> reactorProjects )
++ {
++ List<File> additionalFiles = new ArrayList<File>();
++ for ( MavenProject project : reactorProjects )
++ {
++ additionalFiles.addAll( createAdditionalFiles( releaseDescriptor, project ) );
++ }
++ return additionalFiles;
++ }
+ }
+diff --git a/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/phase/ScmCommitDevelopmentPhase.java b/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/phase/ScmCommitDevelopmentPhase.java
+index 889b9c35..0ddc789f 100644
+--- a/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/phase/ScmCommitDevelopmentPhase.java
++++ b/maven-release-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/shared/release/phase/ScmCommitDevelopmentPhase.java
+@@ -21,6 +21,7 @@
+
+ import java.io.File;
+ import java.text.MessageFormat;
++import java.util.ArrayList;
+ import java.util.Collection;
+ import java.util.List;
+
+@@ -83,8 +84,12 @@ protected void runLogic( ReleaseDescriptor releaseDescriptor, ReleaseEnvironment
+ if ( simulating )
+ {
+ Collection<File> pomFiles = createPomFiles( releaseDescriptor, reactorProjects );
++ Collection<File> additionalFiles = createAdditionalFiles(releaseDescriptor, reactorProjects) ;
++ Collection<File> files = new ArrayList<File>() ;
++ files.addAll(pomFiles) ;
++ files.addAll(additionalFiles) ;
+ logInfo( result,
+- "Full run would be commit " + pomFiles.size() + " files with message: '" + message + "'" );
++ "Full run would be commit " + files.size() + " files with message: '" + message + "'" );
+ }
+ else
+ {
+diff --git a/maven-release-manager/src/main/mdo/release-descriptor.mdo b/maven-release-manager/src/main/mdo/release-descriptor.mdo
+index 1dfc3f71..73c9e16b 100644
+--- a/maven-release-manager/src/main/mdo/release-descriptor.mdo
++++ b/maven-release-manager/src/main/mdo/release-descriptor.mdo
+@@ -489,6 +489,16 @@
+ with @{ and }
+ </description>
+ </field>
++
++ <field>
++ <name>additionalCommittedIncludes</name>
++ <version>2.3.1+</version>
++ <type>String</type>
++ <description>
++ In some exceptions you want to commit some changes to the repository in addition to pom files. Changes
++ to files listed here will be committed.
++ </description>
++ </field>
+
+ <!-- Announcement Information
+
+@@ -819,6 +829,11 @@
+ {
+ return false;
+ }
++ if ( !safeEquals( additionalCommittedIncludes, that.additionalCommittedIncludes ) )
++ {
++ return false;
++ }
++
+
+ return true;
+ }
+@@ -939,6 +954,7 @@
+ result = 29 * result + ( performGoals != null ? performGoals.hashCode() : 0 );
+ result = 29 * result + ( defaultReleaseVersion != null ? defaultReleaseVersion.hashCode() : 0 );
+ result = 29 * result + ( scmReleasedPomRevision != null ? scmReleasedPomRevision.hashCode() : 0 );
++ result = 29 * result + ( additionalCommittedIncludes != null ? additionalCommittedIncludes.hashCode() : 0 );
+
+ return result;
+ }
+diff --git a/maven-release-plugin/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/plugins/release/PrepareReleaseMojo.java b/maven-release-plugin/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/plugins/release/PrepareReleaseMojo.java
+index 841206b2..526d46ec 100644
+--- a/maven-release-plugin/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/plugins/release/PrepareReleaseMojo.java
++++ b/maven-release-plugin/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/plugins/release/PrepareReleaseMojo.java
+@@ -21,6 +21,7 @@
+
+ import java.util.Arrays;
+
++import org.apache.commons.lang.StringUtils;
+ import org.apache.maven.plugin.MojoExecutionException;
+ import org.apache.maven.plugin.MojoFailureException;
+ import org.apache.maven.plugins.annotations.Mojo;
+@@ -218,6 +219,22 @@
+ private int waitBeforeTagging;
+
+ /**
++ * A list of additional include filters that will be commited with pom files.
++ *
++ * @since 2.4.2
++ */
++ @Parameter
++ private String[] additionalCommittedIncludes;
++
++ /**
++ * Command-line version of additionalCommittedIncludes.
++ *
++ * @since 2.4.2
++ */
++ @Parameter( property = "additionalCommittedIncludeList" )
++ private String additionalCommittedIncludeList;
++
++ /**
+ * {@inheritDoc}
+ */
+ public void execute()
+@@ -266,6 +283,16 @@ protected void prepareRelease( boolean generateReleasePoms )
+ {
+ config.setCheckModificationExcludes( Arrays.asList( checkModificationExcludes ) );
+ }
++
++ if ( additionalCommittedIncludeList != null )
++ {
++ additionalCommittedIncludes = additionalCommittedIncludeList.replaceAll( "\\s", "" ).split( "," );
++ }
++
++ if ( additionalCommittedIncludes != null )
++ {
++ config.setAdditionalCommittedIncludes(StringUtils.join( additionalCommittedIncludes,"," ) );
++ }
+
+ // Create a config containing values from the session properties (ie command line properties with cli).
+ ReleaseDescriptor sysPropertiesConfig =
+
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+for lazy people, I took time to create the 4 repo on personal GitHub space:
+https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-apache-parent
+https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-parent
+https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-default-skin
+https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-fluido-skin
+
+I won't do the same in the future for the 26 shared and 45 plugins, since=20
+manual repo creation is not fun...
+
+Regards,
+
+Herv=E9
+
+Le mardi 31 octobre 2017, 16:08:01 CET Herv=E9 BOUTEMY a =E9crit :
+> As you probably noticed, I migrated maven-dist-tool [1] to git, using sel=
+f-
+> service Gitbox for the empty repo creation and a migrate-sandbox.sh shell
+> script [2] to populate them (after Sling example)
+>=20
+> It worked like a charm!
+>=20
+> If nobody objects, in 72h, I'll use migrate-pom.sh and migrate-skins.sh to
+> create 4 new repos: maven-apache-parent, maven-parent, maven-default-skin
+> and maven-fluido-skin
+> Please take time to execute the scripts for yourself and check that the
+> result is ok for you.
+>=20
+> I already prepared migrate-plugins.sh and migrate-shared.sh scripts: I'm
+> waiting for Jenkins integration results before trying to migrate this par=
+t,
+> but you can also take time to check that the resulting git repos from the
+> scripts are good.
+>=20
+> Regards,
+>=20
+> Herv=E9
+>=20
+> [1] https://github.com/apache/maven-dist-tool/
+>=20
+> [2] https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/sandbox/trunk/scripts/git/
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+Subject: Re: migrating some code to Git
+Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2017 12:09:58 +0100
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+adding 2 more repos to the list:
+https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-doxia-converter
+https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-doxia-linkcheck
+
+Le mercredi 1 novembre 2017, 07:28:02 CET Herv=E9 BOUTEMY a =E9crit :
+> for lazy people, I took time to create the 4 repo on personal GitHub spac=
+e:
+> https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-apache-parent
+> https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-parent
+> https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-default-skin
+> https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-fluido-skin
+>=20
+> I won't do the same in the future for the 26 shared and 45 plugins, since
+> manual repo creation is not fun...
+>=20
+> Regards,
+>=20
+> Herv=E9
+>=20
+> Le mardi 31 octobre 2017, 16:08:01 CET Herv=E9 BOUTEMY a =E9crit :
+> > As you probably noticed, I migrated maven-dist-tool [1] to git, using
+> > self-
+> > service Gitbox for the empty repo creation and a migrate-sandbox.sh she=
+ll
+> > script [2] to populate them (after Sling example)
+> >=20
+> > It worked like a charm!
+> >=20
+> > If nobody objects, in 72h, I'll use migrate-pom.sh and migrate-skins.sh=
+ to
+> > create 4 new repos: maven-apache-parent, maven-parent, maven-default-sk=
+in
+> > and maven-fluido-skin
+> > Please take time to execute the scripts for yourself and check that the
+> > result is ok for you.
+> >=20
+> > I already prepared migrate-plugins.sh and migrate-shared.sh scripts: I'm
+> > waiting for Jenkins integration results before trying to migrate this
+> > part,
+> > but you can also take time to check that the resulting git repos from t=
+he
+> > scripts are good.
+> >=20
+> > Regards,
+> >=20
+> > Herv=E9
+> >=20
+> > [1] https://github.com/apache/maven-dist-tool/
+> >=20
+> > [2] https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/sandbox/trunk/scripts/git/
+> >=20
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+jgangemi commented on issue #4: [MRELEASE-798] Commit additional files with release plugin
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+jgangemi commented on issue #4: [MRELEASE-798] Commit additional files with release plugin
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+hboutemy commented on issue #4: [MRELEASE-798] Commit additional files with release plugin
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+ uh! sorry, we just migrated and it seems GitHub integration did unexpected things (and tells I did it, since I deleted trunk branch, in favor of master)
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+To: Maven Developers List <de...@maven.apache.org>
+Subject: Re: migrating some code to Git
+Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2017 17:48:30 +0100
+Message-ID: <46...@giga>
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+and here is the Google repo demo, with every git repo configured (even the =
+6=20
+tests):
+https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-aggregator
+
+looks promising: if you use the bootstrapping commands from the readme, you=
+=20
+should be able to use the repositories in a natural way with basic git=20
+commands
+If you don't play with branches, you should be able to run "repo sync" at a=
+ny=20
+time
+
+Please test and report if you're convinced or not
+
+If it works well, I'll put this maven-aggregator git repo in GitBox as an=20
+official way to get full Maven source (looks as good as trunks from svn)
+
+Regards,
+
+Herv=E9
+
+Le mercredi 1 novembre 2017, 12:09:58 CET Herv=E9 BOUTEMY a =E9crit :
+> adding 2 more repos to the list:
+> https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-doxia-converter
+> https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-doxia-linkcheck
+>=20
+> Le mercredi 1 novembre 2017, 07:28:02 CET Herv=E9 BOUTEMY a =E9crit :
+> > for lazy people, I took time to create the 4 repo on personal GitHub
+> > space:
+> > https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-apache-parent
+> > https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-parent
+> > https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-default-skin
+> > https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-fluido-skin
+> >=20
+> > I won't do the same in the future for the 26 shared and 45 plugins, sin=
+ce
+> > manual repo creation is not fun...
+> >=20
+> > Regards,
+> >=20
+> > Herv=E9
+> >=20
+> > Le mardi 31 octobre 2017, 16:08:01 CET Herv=E9 BOUTEMY a =E9crit :
+> > > As you probably noticed, I migrated maven-dist-tool [1] to git, using
+> > > self-
+> > > service Gitbox for the empty repo creation and a migrate-sandbox.sh
+> > > shell
+> > > script [2] to populate them (after Sling example)
+> > >=20
+> > > It worked like a charm!
+> > >=20
+> > > If nobody objects, in 72h, I'll use migrate-pom.sh and migrate-skins.=
+sh
+> > > to
+> > > create 4 new repos: maven-apache-parent, maven-parent,
+> > > maven-default-skin
+> > > and maven-fluido-skin
+> > > Please take time to execute the scripts for yourself and check that t=
+he
+> > > result is ok for you.
+> > >=20
+> > > I already prepared migrate-plugins.sh and migrate-shared.sh scripts: =
+I'm
+> > > waiting for Jenkins integration results before trying to migrate this
+> > > part,
+> > > but you can also take time to check that the resulting git repos from
+> > > the
+> > > scripts are good.
+> > >=20
+> > > Regards,
+> > >=20
+> > > Herv=E9
+> > >=20
+> > > [1] https://github.com/apache/maven-dist-tool/
+> > >=20
+> > > [2] https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/sandbox/trunk/scripts/git/
+> > >=20
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+From: Brian Fox <br...@infinity.nu>
+Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2017 13:26:00 -0400
+Message-ID: <CA...@mail.gmail.com>
+Subject: Re: Maven JDeprScan Plugin
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+All set.
+
+On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 9:48 AM, Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org>
+wrote:
+
+> Hi,
+>
+> I'd like to prepare an alpha release of the Maven JDeprScan Plugin
+> It is a wrapper around the jdeprscan tool[1], available since Java 9.
+>
+> You use the jdeprscan tool as a static analysis tool that scans a jar
+> file (or some other aggregation of class files) for uses of deprecated API
+> elements.
+>
+> It would be nice if some could a review upfront. Any feedback it
+> appreciated.
+>
+> @Brian, can you create a new Jira project: MJDEPRSCAN ?
+>
+> thanks,
+> Robert
+>
+> [1] https://docs.oracle.com/javase/9/tools/jdeprscan.htm
+>
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+From: Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
+Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2017 14:53:18 +1100
+X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: <CA...@mail.gmail.com>
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+Subject: Re: migrating some code to Git
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+impressive!!
+thanks to setup this!
+
+Cheers
+Olivier
+
+On 2 November 2017 at 03:48, Herv=C3=A9 BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr> wro=
+te:
+
+> and here is the Google repo demo, with every git repo configured (even th=
+e
+> 6
+> tests):
+> https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-aggregator
+>
+> looks promising: if you use the bootstrapping commands from the readme, y=
+ou
+> should be able to use the repositories in a natural way with basic git
+> commands
+> If you don't play with branches, you should be able to run "repo sync" at
+> any
+> time
+>
+> Please test and report if you're convinced or not
+>
+> If it works well, I'll put this maven-aggregator git repo in GitBox as an
+> official way to get full Maven source (looks as good as trunks from svn)
+>
+> Regards,
+>
+> Herv=C3=A9
+>
+> Le mercredi 1 novembre 2017, 12:09:58 CET Herv=C3=A9 BOUTEMY a =C3=A9crit=
+ :
+> > adding 2 more repos to the list:
+> > https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-doxia-converter
+> > https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-doxia-linkcheck
+> >
+> > Le mercredi 1 novembre 2017, 07:28:02 CET Herv=C3=A9 BOUTEMY a =C3=A9cr=
+it :
+> > > for lazy people, I took time to create the 4 repo on personal GitHub
+> > > space:
+> > > https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-apache-parent
+> > > https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-parent
+> > > https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-default-skin
+> > > https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-fluido-skin
+> > >
+> > > I won't do the same in the future for the 26 shared and 45 plugins,
+> since
+> > > manual repo creation is not fun...
+> > >
+> > > Regards,
+> > >
+> > > Herv=C3=A9
+> > >
+> > > Le mardi 31 octobre 2017, 16:08:01 CET Herv=C3=A9 BOUTEMY a =C3=A9cri=
+t :
+> > > > As you probably noticed, I migrated maven-dist-tool [1] to git, usi=
+ng
+> > > > self-
+> > > > service Gitbox for the empty repo creation and a migrate-sandbox.sh
+> > > > shell
+> > > > script [2] to populate them (after Sling example)
+> > > >
+> > > > It worked like a charm!
+> > > >
+> > > > If nobody objects, in 72h, I'll use migrate-pom.sh and
+> migrate-skins.sh
+> > > > to
+> > > > create 4 new repos: maven-apache-parent, maven-parent,
+> > > > maven-default-skin
+> > > > and maven-fluido-skin
+> > > > Please take time to execute the scripts for yourself and check that
+> the
+> > > > result is ok for you.
+> > > >
+> > > > I already prepared migrate-plugins.sh and migrate-shared.sh scripts=
+:
+> I'm
+> > > > waiting for Jenkins integration results before trying to migrate th=
+is
+> > > > part,
+> > > > but you can also take time to check that the resulting git repos fr=
+om
+> > > > the
+> > > > scripts are good.
+> > > >
+> > > > Regards,
+> > > >
+> > > > Herv=C3=A9
+> > > >
+> > > > [1] https://github.com/apache/maven-dist-tool/
+> > > >
+> > > > [2] https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/sandbox/trunk/scripts/git/
+> > > >
+> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------
+> ---------
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+>
+>
+>
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+--=20
+Olivier Lamy
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+
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+Subject: Re: migrating some code to Git
+Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2017 17:38:31 +0100
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+for french speaking people, I found a very interesting blog post that looke=
+d=20
+to match our use case =3D just a collection of git repos without cross-repo=
+=20
+development in usual cases
+
+see http://www.yoannsculo.fr/git-repo-outil-gestion-multiples-repositories-=
+arracher-cheveux/
+
+there are some subtle explanation about branch desynchronization: I didn't=
+=20
+really try, but I feel we may be hit
+
+I did not really find much useful doc on Google repo: I don't if it's the n=
+ame=20
+of the tool that is too generic for a search engine.
+
+But at least, with this blog post, I found exactly our use case.
+
+Regards,
+
+Herv=E9
+
+Le jeudi 2 novembre 2017, 04:53:18 CET Olivier Lamy a =E9crit :
+> impressive!!
+> thanks to setup this!
+>=20
+> Cheers
+> Olivier
+>=20
+> On 2 November 2017 at 03:48, Herv=E9 BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr> wrot=
+e:
+> > and here is the Google repo demo, with every git repo configured (even =
+the
+> > 6
+> > tests):
+> > https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-aggregator
+> >=20
+> > looks promising: if you use the bootstrapping commands from the readme,
+> > you
+> > should be able to use the repositories in a natural way with basic git
+> > commands
+> > If you don't play with branches, you should be able to run "repo sync" =
+at
+> > any
+> > time
+> >=20
+> > Please test and report if you're convinced or not
+> >=20
+> > If it works well, I'll put this maven-aggregator git repo in GitBox as =
+an
+> > official way to get full Maven source (looks as good as trunks from svn)
+> >=20
+> > Regards,
+> >=20
+> > Herv=E9
+> >=20
+> > Le mercredi 1 novembre 2017, 12:09:58 CET Herv=E9 BOUTEMY a =E9crit :
+> > > adding 2 more repos to the list:
+> > > https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-doxia-converter
+> > > https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-doxia-linkcheck
+> > >=20
+> > > Le mercredi 1 novembre 2017, 07:28:02 CET Herv=E9 BOUTEMY a =E9crit :
+> > > > for lazy people, I took time to create the 4 repo on personal GitHub
+> > > > space:
+> > > > https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-apache-parent
+> > > > https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-parent
+> > > > https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-default-skin
+> > > > https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-fluido-skin
+> > > >=20
+> > > > I won't do the same in the future for the 26 shared and 45 plugins,
+> >=20
+> > since
+> >=20
+> > > > manual repo creation is not fun...
+> > > >=20
+> > > > Regards,
+> > > >=20
+> > > > Herv=E9
+> > > >=20
+> > > > Le mardi 31 octobre 2017, 16:08:01 CET Herv=E9 BOUTEMY a =E9crit :
+> > > > > As you probably noticed, I migrated maven-dist-tool [1] to git,
+> > > > > using
+> > > > > self-
+> > > > > service Gitbox for the empty repo creation and a migrate-sandbox.=
+sh
+> > > > > shell
+> > > > > script [2] to populate them (after Sling example)
+> > > > >=20
+> > > > > It worked like a charm!
+> > > > >=20
+> > > > > If nobody objects, in 72h, I'll use migrate-pom.sh and
+> >=20
+> > migrate-skins.sh
+> >=20
+> > > > > to
+> > > > > create 4 new repos: maven-apache-parent, maven-parent,
+> > > > > maven-default-skin
+> > > > > and maven-fluido-skin
+> > > > > Please take time to execute the scripts for yourself and check th=
+at
+> >=20
+> > the
+> >=20
+> > > > > result is ok for you.
+> >=20
+> > > > > I already prepared migrate-plugins.sh and migrate-shared.sh scrip=
+ts:
+> > I'm
+> >=20
+> > > > > waiting for Jenkins integration results before trying to migrate
+> > > > > this
+> > > > > part,
+> > > > > but you can also take time to check that the resulting git repos
+> > > > > from
+> > > > > the
+> > > > > scripts are good.
+> > > > >=20
+> > > > > Regards,
+> > > > >=20
+> > > > > Herv=E9
+> > > > >=20
+> > > > > [1] https://github.com/apache/maven-dist-tool/
+> > > > >=20
+> > > > > [2] https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/sandbox/trunk/scripts/git/
+> > > > >=20
+> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------
+> >=20
+> > ---------
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+Hi Robert ,**
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+JDK 10 Early Access build 29 is available at : - jdk.java.net/10/
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+JDK 10 Early Access Release Notes are available [1]
+
+JDK 10 Schedule, Status & Features are available [2]
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+[1] http://jdk.java.net/10/release-notes
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+--
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+Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 11:20:34 +0100
+Message-ID: <CA...@mail.gmail.com>
+Subject: Better incremental build in default distro?
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+Hi guys,
+
+Any plan to integrate something like
+https://github.com/khmarbaise/incremental-module-builder in maven
+distribution? It could be a bit more fancy like have a mvni script or
+something like that.
+
+Some ASF projects investigate alternatives because their maven builds
+are slow (it is not the backbone of maven but but a real project with
+several plugins). Main outcome is that launching a full build when
+only a module changed is too costly (concretely a 2h build for a
+change in a module taking 10s to build is not acceptable). Wonder if
+we can get some help here and go to something a bit more incremental
+and smooth for these big projects?
+
+Thanks,
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+Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2017 09:49:39 +0100
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+Hi,
+
+Looks like now that we have color and Java 9 support, this kind of=20
+optimization is the next big user-visible feature that is required to keep=
+=20
+current.
+
+We've had discussions in the past and even one proposal in Maven Wiki, but =
+it=20
+seems we did not get much team traction.
+
+I didn't know Karl Heinz approach, based on scm to detect changes...
+
+I don't have any approach I mind myself, but would be glad to work with=20
+anybody who has already something to share
+
+Regards,
+
+Herv=E9
+
+Le vendredi 3 novembre 2017, 11:20:34 CET Romain Manni-Bucau a =E9crit :
+> Hi guys,
+>=20
+> Any plan to integrate something like
+> https://github.com/khmarbaise/incremental-module-builder in maven
+> distribution? It could be a bit more fancy like have a mvni script or
+> something like that.
+>=20
+> Some ASF projects investigate alternatives because their maven builds
+> are slow (it is not the backbone of maven but but a real project with
+> several plugins). Main outcome is that launching a full build when
+> only a module changed is too costly (concretely a 2h build for a
+> change in a module taking 10s to build is not acceptable). Wonder if
+> we can get some help here and go to something a bit more incremental
+> and smooth for these big projects?
+>=20
+> Thanks,
+> Romain Manni-Bucau
+> @rmannibucau | Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn
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+To: Maven Developers List <de...@maven.apache.org>
+Subject: Re: migrating some code to Git
+Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2017 09:50:28 +0100
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+no objection: starting the migration of these 6 repos
+
+Regards,
+
+Herv=E9
+
+Le mercredi 1 novembre 2017, 12:09:58 CET Herv=E9 BOUTEMY a =E9crit :
+> adding 2 more repos to the list:
+> https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-doxia-converter
+> https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-doxia-linkcheck
+>=20
+> Le mercredi 1 novembre 2017, 07:28:02 CET Herv=E9 BOUTEMY a =E9crit :
+> > for lazy people, I took time to create the 4 repo on personal GitHub
+> > space:
+> > https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-apache-parent
+> > https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-parent
+> > https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-default-skin
+> > https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-fluido-skin
+> >=20
+> > I won't do the same in the future for the 26 shared and 45 plugins, sin=
+ce
+> > manual repo creation is not fun...
+> >=20
+> > Regards,
+> >=20
+> > Herv=E9
+> >=20
+> > Le mardi 31 octobre 2017, 16:08:01 CET Herv=E9 BOUTEMY a =E9crit :
+> > > As you probably noticed, I migrated maven-dist-tool [1] to git, using
+> > > self-
+> > > service Gitbox for the empty repo creation and a migrate-sandbox.sh
+> > > shell
+> > > script [2] to populate them (after Sling example)
+> > >=20
+> > > It worked like a charm!
+> > >=20
+> > > If nobody objects, in 72h, I'll use migrate-pom.sh and migrate-skins.=
+sh
+> > > to
+> > > create 4 new repos: maven-apache-parent, maven-parent,
+> > > maven-default-skin
+> > > and maven-fluido-skin
+> > > Please take time to execute the scripts for yourself and check that t=
+he
+> > > result is ok for you.
+> > >=20
+> > > I already prepared migrate-plugins.sh and migrate-shared.sh scripts: =
+I'm
+> > > waiting for Jenkins integration results before trying to migrate this
+> > > part,
+> > > but you can also take time to check that the resulting git repos from
+> > > the
+> > > scripts are good.
+> > >=20
+> > > Regards,
+> > >=20
+> > > Herv=E9
+> > >=20
+> > > [1] https://github.com/apache/maven-dist-tool/
+> > >=20
+> > > [2] https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/sandbox/trunk/scripts/git/
+> > >=20
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+From: Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>
+Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2017 12:20:18 +0000
+Message-ID: <CA...@mail.gmail.com>
+Subject: Maven 4.0.0
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+The past two days, Herv=C3=A9, Robert and I have been discussing our next s=
+teps.
+
+I think we have a semi-consensus which I want to bring back to the list:
+
+We keep 3.5.x as a stable branch with critical bug fixes only
+
+We switch master to 4.0.0 and start to burn down a release scope.
+
+4.0.0 will not change the pom modelVersion
+
+The 4.0.0 scope should probably be:
+
+Required:
+* drop Java 7, switch codebase to Java 8 idioms (while maintaining binary
+api compatibility for plugins)
+* specify the classloader behaviour and fix impl to align with spec (may
+need a plugin flag to allow plugins to opt in to spec behaviour)
+* specify the extension spec
+* allow limited mutation of the runtime model (reducing transitive
+dependencies for consumers within the reactor, only for plugin goals that
+declare intent) use case: shade plugin
+* better CI integration hooks
+* nice error message for newer pom modelVersion
+
+Optional:
+* (damn I forgot, maybe Robert remembers)
+--=20
+Sent from my phone
+
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+Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2017 12:24:30 +0000
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+Subject: Re: Maven 4.0.0
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+On Sat 4 Nov 2017 at 12:20, Stephen Connolly <
+stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
+
+> The past two days, Herv=C3=A9, Robert and I have been discussing our next=
+ steps.
+>
+> I think we have a semi-consensus which I want to bring back to the list:
+>
+> We keep 3.5.x as a stable branch with critical bug fixes only
+>
+> We switch master to 4.0.0 and start to burn down a release scope.
+>
+> 4.0.0 will not change the pom modelVersion
+>
+> The 4.0.0 scope should probably be:
+>
+> Required:
+> * drop Java 7, switch codebase to Java 8 idioms (while maintaining binary
+> api compatibility for plugins)
+> * specify the classloader behaviour and fix impl to align with spec (may
+> need a plugin flag to allow plugins to opt in to spec behaviour)
+> * specify the extension spec
+> * allow limited mutation of the runtime model (reducing transitive
+> dependencies for consumers within the reactor, only for plugin goals that
+> declare intent) use case: shade plugin
+> * better CI integration hooks
+> * nice error message for newer pom modelVersion
+>
+> Optional:
+> * (damn I forgot, maybe Robert remembers)
+>
+* incremental build
+* concurrent safe local repo cache
+
+> --
+> Sent from my phone
+>
+--=20
+Sent from my phone
+
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+From: Michael Osipov <mi...@apache.org>
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+Am 2017-11-04 um 13:20 schrieb Stephen Connolly:
+> The past two days, Herv=C3=A9, Robert and I have been discussing our ne=
+xt steps.
+>=20
+> I think we have a semi-consensus which I want to bring back to the list=
+:
+>=20
+> We keep 3.5.x as a stable branch with critical bug fixes only
+>=20
+> We switch master to 4.0.0 and start to burn down a release scope.
+>=20
+> 4.0.0 will not change the pom modelVersion
+>=20
+> The 4.0.0 scope should probably be:
+>=20
+> Required:
+> * drop Java 7, switch codebase to Java 8 idioms (while maintaining bina=
+ry
+> api compatibility for plugins)
+
+Who is going to do this? I haven't even seen any Java 7 improvements=20
+(NIO 2 and others) in core since 3.3. I doubt that core will we be=20
+rewritten with Java 8 idioms.
+Consider that we still have plugins running Maven 2.2.x which need more=20
+attention first.
+
+> * specify the classloader behaviour and fix impl to align with spec (ma=
+y
+> need a plugin flag to allow plugins to opt in to spec behaviour)
+> * specify the extension spec
+> * allow limited mutation of the runtime model (reducing transitive
+> dependencies for consumers within the reactor, only for plugin goals th=
+at
+> declare intent) use case: shade plugin
+> * better CI integration hooks
+> * nice error message for newer pom modelVersion
+
+This looks quite reasonable to me.
+
+Michael
+
+
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+Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2017 08:50:25 -0400
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+To add to scope for Maven 4, IMO:
+
+*1. <dependency> tag could have an optional <repo-list> arg:*
+
+<dependency>
+ <repo-list>my-team,mycorp</repo-list>
+ <groupId>com.thoughtworks.xstream</groupId>
+ <artifactId>xstream</artifactId>
+ <version>1.4.10</version>
+</dependency>
+
+
+In the above, central is not checked at all. my-team and my-corp are
+defined elsewhere.
+
+*2. GAV as a first class thing (optional):*
+
+<dependency>
+ <gav>com.thoughtworks.xstream:xstream:1.4.10</gav>
+</dependency>
+
+or
+
+<dependency gav="com.thoughtworks.xstream:xstream:1.4.10"/>
+
+
+For the first time ever people could do simple ack/ag/grep thru source
+bases looking for things.
+
+*3. More pluggable dependency resolver:*
+
+I might want alternate places to source JARs from that are *not* HTTP
+mounted system that match the Maven2 directory structure.
+
+Like here - https://github.com/paul-hammant/xstream-jar/releases (and
+associated blog entry -
+https://paulhammant.com/2017/05/13/maven-central-as-multiple-git-repos/)
+
+In particular I need to rework the jar as it is pulled into the local
+~/.m2/repository cache - there's a root directory to remove.
+
+- Paul
+
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+On Sat 4 Nov 2017 at 12:49, Michael Osipov <mi...@apache.org> wrote:
+
+> Am 2017-11-04 um 13:20 schrieb Stephen Connolly:
+> > The past two days, Herv=C3=A9, Robert and I have been discussing our ne=
+xt
+> steps.
+> >
+> > I think we have a semi-consensus which I want to bring back to the list=
+:
+> >
+> > We keep 3.5.x as a stable branch with critical bug fixes only
+> >
+> > We switch master to 4.0.0 and start to burn down a release scope.
+> >
+> > 4.0.0 will not change the pom modelVersion
+> >
+> > The 4.0.0 scope should probably be:
+> >
+> > Required:
+> > * drop Java 7, switch codebase to Java 8 idioms (while maintaining bina=
+ry
+> > api compatibility for plugins)
+>
+> Who is going to do this? I haven't even seen any Java 7 improvements
+> (NIO 2 and others) in core since 3.3. I doubt that core will we be
+> rewritten with Java 8 idioms.
+> Consider that we still have plugins running Maven 2.2.x which need more
+> attention first.
+
+
+We are going to ask the wider community to contribute PRs towards that
+goal, each PR limited to ~20 Lines of diff.
+
+We will need infrastructure to assure binary compatibility (like clirr used
+to do before it died) before we can start that effort.
+
+Aim is to find people willing to dive in and get them familiar with the
+code base by making many small low/no risk changes
+
+
+>
+> > * specify the classloader behaviour and fix impl to align with spec (ma=
+y
+> > need a plugin flag to allow plugins to opt in to spec behaviour)
+> > * specify the extension spec
+> > * allow limited mutation of the runtime model (reducing transitive
+> > dependencies for consumers within the reactor, only for plugin goals th=
+at
+> > declare intent) use case: shade plugin
+> > * better CI integration hooks
+> > * nice error message for newer pom modelVersion
+>
+> This looks quite reasonable to me.
+>
+> Michael
+>
+>
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+Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2017 12:54:36 +0000
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+On Sat 4 Nov 2017 at 12:50, Paul Hammant <pa...@hammant.org> wrote:
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+> To add to scope for Maven 4, IMO:
+>
+> *1. <dependency> tag could have an optional <repo-list> arg:*
+>
+> <dependency>
+> <repo-list>my-team,mycorp</repo-list>
+> <groupId>com.thoughtworks.xstream</groupId>
+> <artifactId>xstream</artifactId>
+> <version>1.4.10</version>
+> </dependency>
+
+
+No. We are pushing pom model changes to 5.0.0 (as modelVersion 4.0.0 aligns
+with Maven version)
+
+Aim is to build a platform from which 5.0.0 can be launched
+
+
+>
+>
+> In the above, central is not checked at all. my-team and my-corp are
+> defined elsewhere.
+>
+> *2. GAV as a first class thing (optional):*
+>
+> <dependency>
+> <gav>com.thoughtworks.xstream:xstream:1.4.10</gav>
+> </dependency>
+>
+> or
+>
+> <dependency gav="com.thoughtworks.xstream:xstream:1.4.10"/>
+>
+>
+> For the first time ever people could do simple ack/ag/grep thru source
+> bases looking for things.
+
+
+No, requires modelVersion bump. Out of scope for 4.0.0
+
+
+>
+> *3. More pluggable dependency resolver:*
+>
+> I might want alternate places to source JARs from that are *not* HTTP
+> mounted system that match the Maven2 directory structure.
+>
+> Like here - https://github.com/paul-hammant/xstream-jar/releases (and
+> associated blog entry -
+> https://paulhammant.com/2017/05/13/maven-central-as-multiple-git-repos/)
+>
+> In particular I need to rework the jar as it is pulled into the local
+> ~/.m2/repository cache - there's a root directory to remove.
+
+
+I am willing to let this be optional scope for now. May be yanked if too
+risky or not ready in time
+
+
+>
+> - Paul
+>
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+On Sat 4 Nov 2017 at 12:24, Stephen Connolly <
+stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
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+> On Sat 4 Nov 2017 at 12:20, Stephen Connolly <
+> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
+>
+>> The past two days, Herv=C3=A9, Robert and I have been discussing our nex=
+t
+>> steps.
+>>
+>> I think we have a semi-consensus which I want to bring back to the list:
+>>
+>> We keep 3.5.x as a stable branch with critical bug fixes only
+>>
+>> We switch master to 4.0.0 and start to burn down a release scope.
+>>
+>> 4.0.0 will not change the pom modelVersion
+>>
+>> The 4.0.0 scope should probably be:
+>>
+>> Required:
+>> * drop Java 7, switch codebase to Java 8 idioms (while maintaining binar=
+y
+>> api compatibility for plugins)
+>> * specify the classloader behaviour and fix impl to align with spec (may
+>> need a plugin flag to allow plugins to opt in to spec behaviour)
+>> * specify the extension spec
+>> * allow limited mutation of the runtime model (reducing transitive
+>> dependencies for consumers within the reactor, only for plugin goals tha=
+t
+>> declare intent) use case: shade plugin
+>> * better CI integration hooks
+>> * nice error message for newer pom modelVersion
+>>
+> * declare plugin api depreciation policy:
+The next major version of Maven (5.0.0) will not support plugins compiled
+against Maven 2.x APIs. Plugins compiled against 3.0-3.3 will be best
+effort. 3.5.x (Maven Resolver not aether) is the cut-point
+
+
+>> Optional:
+>> * (damn I forgot, maybe Robert remembers)
+>>
+> * incremental build
+> * concurrent safe local repo cache
+>
+>> --
+>> Sent from my phone
+>>
+> --
+> Sent from my phone
+>
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+> > *3. More pluggable dependency resolver:*
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+>
+> I am willing to let this be optional scope for now. May be yanked if too
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+> >
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+> > > *3. More pluggable dependency resolver:*
+> > >
+> >
+> > I am willing to let this be optional scope for now. May be yanked if too
+> > risky or not ready in time
+> >
+> >
+> >
+> I don't see how you can even make it optional without a pom specified way
+> of saying "not maven central, this way/place instead"
+
+
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+Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2017 13:24:02 +0000
+Message-ID: <CA...@mail.gmail.com>
+Subject: Re: Maven 4.0.0
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+On Sat 4 Nov 2017 at 12:52, Stephen Connolly <
+stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
+
+> On Sat 4 Nov 2017 at 12:49, Michael Osipov <mi...@apache.org> wrote:
+>
+>> Am 2017-11-04 um 13:20 schrieb Stephen Connolly:
+>> > The past two days, Herv=C3=A9, Robert and I have been discussing our n=
+ext
+>> steps.
+>> >
+>> > I think we have a semi-consensus which I want to bring back to the lis=
+t:
+>> >
+>> > We keep 3.5.x as a stable branch with critical bug fixes only
+>> >
+>> > We switch master to 4.0.0 and start to burn down a release scope.
+>> >
+>> > 4.0.0 will not change the pom modelVersion
+>> >
+>> > The 4.0.0 scope should probably be:
+>> >
+>> > Required:
+>> > * drop Java 7, switch codebase to Java 8 idioms (while maintaining
+>> binary
+>> > api compatibility for plugins)
+>>
+>> Who is going to do this? I haven't even seen any Java 7 improvements
+>> (NIO 2 and others) in core since 3.3. I doubt that core will we be
+>> rewritten with Java 8 idioms.
+>> Consider that we still have plugins running Maven 2.2.x which need more
+>> attention first.
+>
+>
+> We are going to ask the wider community to contribute PRs towards that
+> goal, each PR limited to ~20 Lines of diff.
+>
+
+A diff this small on =E2=80=9Cobvious=E2=80=9D (as in we=E2=80=99d be just =
+as likely to come up
+with the same or similar change if we looked at the method) changes does
+not require a signed ICLA, just confirmation of grant in PR...
+
+Should give a much lower barrier for getting started contributing
+
+
+> We will need infrastructure to assure binary compatibility (like clirr
+> used to do before it died) before we can start that effort.
+>
+> Aim is to find people willing to dive in and get them familiar with the
+> code base by making many small low/no risk changes
+>
+>
+>>
+>> > * specify the classloader behaviour and fix impl to align with spec (m=
+ay
+>> > need a plugin flag to allow plugins to opt in to spec behaviour)
+>> > * specify the extension spec
+>> > * allow limited mutation of the runtime model (reducing transitive
+>> > dependencies for consumers within the reactor, only for plugin goals
+>> that
+>> > declare intent) use case: shade plugin
+>> > * better CI integration hooks
+>> > * nice error message for newer pom modelVersion
+>>
+>> This looks quite reasonable to me.
+>>
+>> Michael
+>>
+>>
+>>
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+From: John Patrick <nh...@gmail.com>
+Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2017 13:43:46 +0000
+Message-ID: <CA...@mail.gmail.com>
+Subject: Re: Maven 4.0.0
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+
+I've got a few updates I feel would be useful for the next major version;
+
+1) Packaging type generic 'archive', or specific zip or tar.gz
+- maybe a user property to enable zip and/or tar.gz
+
+2) Packaging type generic 'application', or specific rpm or deb
+- in future could be extended for windows installers too
+
+Over the past 6 years I've mainly created jar, war or ear, but for
+deployment the standard is bundle it up into a tar.gz or zip, along
+with the ansible scripts or custom scripts. So I usually use pom
+packaging then adding assembly plugin, just feels strange doing that
+all the time and it might make it more simpler for everyone.
+
+3) Checksum, switch to SHA3, drop md5 and sha1. If we care about
+security, we should keep up to date with what is considered secure
+still.
+
+3) Debian style repo management. Instead of having a massive bucket of
+artefacts, start having repo's either based upon java class version,
+or maven major release version. Also split more than just release and
+snapshot, maybe core, plugins, general...
+
+Not sure exactly the best solution, but as maven central has stuff
+going back years and years. How much of the old stuff will be used for
+new projects going forward.
+
+Anyway, those are some of my thoughts, if their is a more formal way
+of suggesting them let me know and I'll be happy to raise them
+separately for consideration and maybe also do some pull requests for
+them.
+
+John
+
+On 4 November 2017 at 13:18, Paul Hammant <pa...@hammant.org> wrote:
+>>
+>>
+>>
+>> >
+>> > *3. More pluggable dependency resolver:*
+>> >
+>>
+>> I am willing to let this be optional scope for now. May be yanked if too
+>> risky or not ready in time
+>>
+>>
+>>
+> I don't see how you can even make it optional without a pom specified way
+> of saying "not maven central, this way/place instead"
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+From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Herv=E9?= BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr>
+To: Maven Developers List <de...@maven.apache.org>
+Subject: Re: migrating some code to Git
+Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2017 14:56:12 +0100
+Message-ID: <11...@giga>
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+
+migration done [1]
+we now have 22 git repos (maven-resolver has 3 independant branches...)
+
+I'm waiting for feedback before creating maven-aggregator @ ASF (for Google=
+=20
+repo manifest)
+
+next big migrations will be shared and plugins once Stephen videos and=20
+solution on scaling Jenkins for our organization will be ready
+
+There a few cases to discuss:
+=2D Apache Resource Bundles: should IMHO be merged into one unique release:=
+ any=20
+taker?
+=2D Archetypes: split (wait for Jenkins) or not split (and do now)?
+=2D Maven and Doxia sites: need to see if CMS can checkout from Git, or eve=
+n if=20
+we should not use CMS any more to build but use Jenkins...
+
+Regards,
+
+Herv=E9
+
+[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Git+Migration
+
+Le samedi 4 novembre 2017, 09:50:28 CET Herv=E9 BOUTEMY a =E9crit :
+> no objection: starting the migration of these 6 repos
+>=20
+> Regards,
+>=20
+> Herv=E9
+>=20
+> Le mercredi 1 novembre 2017, 12:09:58 CET Herv=E9 BOUTEMY a =E9crit :
+> > adding 2 more repos to the list:
+> > https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-doxia-converter
+> > https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-doxia-linkcheck
+> >=20
+> > Le mercredi 1 novembre 2017, 07:28:02 CET Herv=E9 BOUTEMY a =E9crit :
+> > > for lazy people, I took time to create the 4 repo on personal GitHub
+> > > space:
+> > > https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-apache-parent
+> > > https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-parent
+> > > https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-default-skin
+> > > https://github.com/hboutemy/maven-fluido-skin
+> > >=20
+> > > I won't do the same in the future for the 26 shared and 45 plugins,
+> > > since
+> > > manual repo creation is not fun...
+> > >=20
+> > > Regards,
+> > >=20
+> > > Herv=E9
+> > >=20
+> > > Le mardi 31 octobre 2017, 16:08:01 CET Herv=E9 BOUTEMY a =E9crit :
+> > > > As you probably noticed, I migrated maven-dist-tool [1] to git, usi=
+ng
+> > > > self-
+> > > > service Gitbox for the empty repo creation and a migrate-sandbox.sh
+> > > > shell
+> > > > script [2] to populate them (after Sling example)
+> > > >=20
+> > > > It worked like a charm!
+> > > >=20
+> > > > If nobody objects, in 72h, I'll use migrate-pom.sh and
+> > > > migrate-skins.sh
+> > > > to
+> > > > create 4 new repos: maven-apache-parent, maven-parent,
+> > > > maven-default-skin
+> > > > and maven-fluido-skin
+> > > > Please take time to execute the scripts for yourself and check that
+> > > > the
+> > > > result is ok for you.
+> > > >=20
+> > > > I already prepared migrate-plugins.sh and migrate-shared.sh scripts:
+> > > > I'm
+> > > > waiting for Jenkins integration results before trying to migrate th=
+is
+> > > > part,
+> > > > but you can also take time to check that the resulting git repos fr=
+om
+> > > > the
+> > > > scripts are good.
+> > > >=20
+> > > > Regards,
+> > > >=20
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+Le samedi 4 novembre 2017, 14:43:46 CET John Patrick a =E9crit :
+> I've got a few updates I feel would be useful for the next major version;
+>=20
+> 1) Packaging type generic 'archive', or specific zip or tar.gz
+> - maybe a user property to enable zip and/or tar.gz
+>=20
+> 2) Packaging type generic 'application', or specific rpm or deb
+> - in future could be extended for windows installers too
+>=20
+> Over the past 6 years I've mainly created jar, war or ear, but for
+> deployment the standard is bundle it up into a tar.gz or zip, along
+> with the ansible scripts or custom scripts. So I usually use pom
+> packaging then adding assembly plugin, just feels strange doing that
+> all the time and it might make it more simpler for everyone.
+do you have some demos of such packagings?
+
+>=20
+> 3) Checksum, switch to SHA3, drop md5 and sha1. If we care about
+> security, we should keep up to date with what is considered secure
+> still.
+=2D1
+checksums are checksums, not security
+if you want security, don't look at checksums but at signatures
+
+This makes me think that we should find a way to show security (with these=
+=20
+signatures): I don't know precisely how, but that would definitely be useful
+
+>=20
+> 3) Debian style repo management. Instead of having a massive bucket of
+> artefacts, start having repo's either based upon java class version,
+> or maven major release version. Also split more than just release and
+> snapshot, maybe core, plugins, general...
+>=20
+> Not sure exactly the best solution, but as maven central has stuff
+> going back years and years. How much of the old stuff will be used for
+> new projects going forward.
+what's the objective?
+with Linux distributions, there are compatibility issues that require=20
+different artifacts, and an objective to keep distro on one CD/DVD
+But Java and central don't have such considerations
+
+>=20
+> Anyway, those are some of my thoughts, if their is a more formal way
+> of suggesting them let me know and I'll be happy to raise them
+> separately for consideration and maybe also do some pull requests for
+> them.
+I think the packaging ideas deserve some demos to see if something can be m=
+ade=20
+generic enough
+
+Regards,
+
+Herv=E9
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+>=20
+> John
+>=20
+> On 4 November 2017 at 13:18, Paul Hammant <pa...@hammant.org> wrote:
+> >> > *3. More pluggable dependency resolver:*
+> >>=20
+> >> I am willing to let this be optional scope for now. May be yanked if t=
+oo
+> >> risky or not ready in time
+> >=20
+> > I don't see how you can even make it optional without a pom specified w=
+ay
+> > of saying "not maven central, this way/place instead"
+>=20
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+diff --git a/enforcer-rules/src/site/apt/dependencyConvergence.apt.vm b/enforcer-rules/src/site/apt/dependencyConvergence.apt.vm
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+--- a/enforcer-rules/src/site/apt/dependencyConvergence.apt.vm
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+--- a/enforcer-rules/src/site/apt/dependencyConvergence.apt.vm
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+@@ -16,7 +16,7 @@
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+jtnord opened a new pull request #28: [MENFORCER-281] added IT to show the issue.
+URL: https://github.com/apache/maven-enforcer/pull/28
+
+
+ Added an IT to demonstrate [MENFORCER-281](https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MENFORCER-281)
+
+ Fails with the following which is slightly different to what is observed in the real project, but is at least a starter for 10
+
+ ```
+ [ERROR] /org/apache/maven/its/enforcer/menforcer281-parent/$%7Brevision%7D/menforcer281-parent-$%7Brevision%7D.pom
+ java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Illegal character in path at index 110: https://XXXXX/org/apache/maven/its/enforcer/m
+ enforcer281-parent/${revision}/maven-metadata.xml
+ at java.net.URI.create(URI.java:852)
+ at org.apache.maven.wagon.providers.http.httpclient.client.methods.HttpGet.<init>(HttpGet.java:69)
+ at org.apache.maven.wagon.providers.http.AbstractHttpClientWagon.fillInputData(AbstractHttpClientWagon.java:972)
+ at org.apache.maven.wagon.providers.http.AbstractHttpClientWagon.fillInputData(AbstractHttpClientWagon.java:962)
+ at org.apache.maven.wagon.StreamWagon.getInputStream(StreamWagon.java:126)
+ at org.apache.maven.wagon.StreamWagon.getIfNewer(StreamWagon.java:88)
+ at org.apache.maven.wagon.StreamWagon.get(StreamWagon.java:61)
+ at org.apache.maven.repository.legacy.DefaultWagonManager.getRemoteFile(DefaultWagonManager.java:413)
+ at org.apache.maven.repository.legacy.DefaultWagonManager.getArtifactMetadata(DefaultWagonManager.java:233)
+ at org.apache.maven.artifact.repository.metadata.DefaultRepositoryMetadataManager.resolve(DefaultRepositoryMetadataManager.java:132)
+ at org.apache.maven.artifact.repository.metadata.DefaultRepositoryMetadataManager.resolve(DefaultRepositoryMetadataManager.java:71)
+ at org.codehaus.mojo.mrm.maven.ProxyArtifactStore.getMetadata(ProxyArtifactStore.java:480)
+ at org.codehaus.mojo.mrm.maven.ProxyArtifactStore.getMetadataLastModified(ProxyArtifactStore.java:536)
+ at org.codehaus.mojo.mrm.impl.maven.CompositeArtifactStore.getMetadataLastModified(CompositeArtifactStore.java:339)
+ at org.codehaus.mojo.mrm.impl.maven.ArtifactStoreFileSystem.listEntries(ArtifactStoreFileSystem.java:147)
+ at org.codehaus.mojo.mrm.impl.digest.AutoDigestFileSystem.listEntries(AutoDigestFileSystem.java:100)
+ at org.codehaus.mojo.mrm.api.BaseFileSystem.get(BaseFileSystem.java:89)
+ at org.codehaus.mojo.mrm.impl.digest.AutoDigestFileSystem.get(AutoDigestFileSystem.java:185)
+ at org.codehaus.mojo.mrm.servlet.FileSystemServlet.doGet(FileSystemServlet.java:157)
+ at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:707)
+ at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:820)
+ at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHolder.handle(ServletHolder.java:487)
+ at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler.handle(ServletHandler.java:362)
+ at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.SessionHandler.handle(SessionHandler.java:181)
+ at org.mortbay.jetty.handler.ContextHandler.handle(ContextHandler.java:712)
+ at org.mortbay.jetty.handler.HandlerWrapper.handle(HandlerWrapper.java:139)
+ at org.mortbay.jetty.Server.handle(Server.java:313)
+ at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpConnection.handleRequest(HttpConnection.java:506)
+ at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpConnection$RequestHandler.headerComplete(HttpConnection.java:830)
+ at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpParser.parseNext(HttpParser.java:514)
+ at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpParser.parseAvailable(HttpParser.java:211)
+ at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpConnection.handle(HttpConnection.java:381)
+ at org.mortbay.jetty.bio.SocketConnector$Connection.run(SocketConnector.java:227)
+ at org.mortbay.thread.BoundedThreadPool$PoolThread.run(BoundedThreadPool.java:442)
+ Caused by: java.net.URISyntaxException: Illegal character in path at index 110: https://XXXXXX/org/apache/maven/its/enforc
+ er/menforcer281-parent/${revision}/maven-metadata.xml
+ at java.net.URI$Parser.fail(URI.java:2848)
+ at java.net.URI$Parser.checkChars(URI.java:3021)
+ at java.net.URI$Parser.parseHierarchical(URI.java:3105)
+ at java.net.URI$Parser.parse(URI.java:3053)
+ at java.net.URI.<init>(URI.java:588)
+ at java.net.URI.create(URI.java:850)
+ ... 33 more
+ [INFO] ..FAILED (5.7 s)
+ ```
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+Subject: [GitHub] oleg-nenashev opened a new pull request #25: MENFORCER-276 - Support ignoring dependency scopes in RequireUpperBoundDeps
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+oleg-nenashev opened a new pull request #25: MENFORCER-276 - Support ignoring dependency scopes in RequireUpperBoundDeps
+URL: https://github.com/apache/maven-enforcer/pull/25
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+ We have recently adopted `RequireUpperBoundDeps` in the Jenkins project (https://github.com/jenkinsci/plugin-pom/pull/67). In order to implement it, Jesse Glick added a support of ignoring particular dependencies in [MENFORCER-273](https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MENFORCER-273).
+
+ Sometimes we declare dependencies between plugins for testing purposes (scope=test), and in such case RequireUpperBoundDeps fails the build if there is a test dependency conflicting with the main code. Although it may cause instability of tests (including false positive results), it does not really impact the distributable package in our case.
+
+ I propose to add another option for filtering of dependency scopes. This pull request also adds some unit tests for `RequireUpperBoundDeps`. Previously it had integration tests only.
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+On 4 November 2017 at 07:30, Herv=C3=A9 BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr> wro=
+te:
+
+> Le samedi 4 novembre 2017, 14:43:46 CET John Patrick a =C3=A9crit :
+> > I've got a few updates I feel would be useful for the next major
+> version;
+> >
+> > 1) Packaging type generic 'archive', or specific zip or tar.gz
+> > - maybe a user property to enable zip and/or tar.gz
+> >
+> > 2) Packaging type generic 'application', or specific rpm or deb
+> > - in future could be extended for windows installers too
+> >
+> > Over the past 6 years I've mainly created jar, war or ear, but for
+> > deployment the standard is bundle it up into a tar.gz or zip, along
+> > with the ansible scripts or custom scripts. So I usually use pom
+> > packaging then adding assembly plugin, just feels strange doing that
+> > all the time and it might make it more simpler for everyone.
+> do you have some demos of such packagings?
+>
+
+This feels like plugin level functionality. I am unclear how this needs
+core changes. Could you provide details where you feel we need to modify
+core for this (or is it you want to be able to fetch some artifacts from
+within the zip, iow a zip with the other artifacts embedded and we "reach
+in"?
+
+
+>
+> >
+> > 3) Checksum, switch to SHA3, drop md5 and sha1. If we care about
+> > security, we should keep up to date with what is considered secure
+> > still.
+> -1
+> checksums are checksums, not security
+> if you want security, don't look at checksums but at signatures
+>
+> This makes me think that we should find a way to show security (with thes=
+e
+> signatures): I don't know precisely how, but that would definitely be
+> useful
+>
+> >
+> > 3) Debian style repo management. Instead of having a massive bucket of
+> > artefacts, start having repo's either based upon java class version,
+> > or maven major release version. Also split more than just release and
+> > snapshot, maybe core, plugins, general...
+> >
+> > Not sure exactly the best solution, but as maven central has stuff
+> > going back years and years. How much of the old stuff will be used for
+> > new projects going forward.
+> what's the objective?
+> with Linux distributions, there are compatibility issues that require
+> different artifacts, and an objective to keep distro on one CD/DVD
+> But Java and central don't have such considerations
+>
+> >
+> > Anyway, those are some of my thoughts, if their is a more formal way
+> > of suggesting them let me know and I'll be happy to raise them
+> > separately for consideration and maybe also do some pull requests for
+> > them.
+> I think the packaging ideas deserve some demos to see if something can be
+> made
+> generic enough
+>
+> Regards,
+>
+> Herv=C3=A9
+>
+> >
+> > John
+> >
+> > On 4 November 2017 at 13:18, Paul Hammant <pa...@hammant.org> wrote:
+> > >> > *3. More pluggable dependency resolver:*
+> > >>
+> > >> I am willing to let this be optional scope for now. May be yanked if
+> too
+> > >> risky or not ready in time
+> > >
+> > > I don't see how you can even make it optional without a pom specified
+> way
+> > > of saying "not maven central, this way/place instead"
+> >
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+Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2017 18:11:05 +0100
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+My wishlist as a user would be:
+
+- incremental build (based on scm is fine)
+- some built in scripting (groovy based?)
+- plugin sorting from the pom (current rules are deterministic but too hard
+to use so defining a dependency between two executions in the same phase
+would be very handy - depends-on tag?)
+
+As a plugin developper:
+
+- programmatic component lookup api (it is deprecated at the moment)
+- ability to contribute dependencies for next plugins/phases
+(resolvedArtifacts)
+
+Le 4 nov. 2017 17:03, "Stephen Connolly" <st...@gmail.com>
+a =C3=A9crit :
+
+> On 4 November 2017 at 07:30, Herv=C3=A9 BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr> w=
+rote:
+>
+> > Le samedi 4 novembre 2017, 14:43:46 CET John Patrick a =C3=A9crit :
+> > > I've got a few updates I feel would be useful for the next major
+> > version;
+> > >
+> > > 1) Packaging type generic 'archive', or specific zip or tar.gz
+> > > - maybe a user property to enable zip and/or tar.gz
+> > >
+> > > 2) Packaging type generic 'application', or specific rpm or deb
+> > > - in future could be extended for windows installers too
+> > >
+> > > Over the past 6 years I've mainly created jar, war or ear, but for
+> > > deployment the standard is bundle it up into a tar.gz or zip, along
+> > > with the ansible scripts or custom scripts. So I usually use pom
+> > > packaging then adding assembly plugin, just feels strange doing that
+> > > all the time and it might make it more simpler for everyone.
+> > do you have some demos of such packagings?
+> >
+>
+> This feels like plugin level functionality. I am unclear how this needs
+> core changes. Could you provide details where you feel we need to modify
+> core for this (or is it you want to be able to fetch some artifacts from
+> within the zip, iow a zip with the other artifacts embedded and we "reach
+> in"?
+>
+>
+> >
+> > >
+> > > 3) Checksum, switch to SHA3, drop md5 and sha1. If we care about
+> > > security, we should keep up to date with what is considered secure
+> > > still.
+> > -1
+> > checksums are checksums, not security
+> > if you want security, don't look at checksums but at signatures
+> >
+> > This makes me think that we should find a way to show security (with
+> these
+> > signatures): I don't know precisely how, but that would definitely be
+> > useful
+> >
+> > >
+> > > 3) Debian style repo management. Instead of having a massive bucket o=
+f
+> > > artefacts, start having repo's either based upon java class version,
+> > > or maven major release version. Also split more than just release and
+> > > snapshot, maybe core, plugins, general...
+> > >
+> > > Not sure exactly the best solution, but as maven central has stuff
+> > > going back years and years. How much of the old stuff will be used fo=
+r
+> > > new projects going forward.
+> > what's the objective?
+> > with Linux distributions, there are compatibility issues that require
+> > different artifacts, and an objective to keep distro on one CD/DVD
+> > But Java and central don't have such considerations
+> >
+> > >
+> > > Anyway, those are some of my thoughts, if their is a more formal way
+> > > of suggesting them let me know and I'll be happy to raise them
+> > > separately for consideration and maybe also do some pull requests for
+> > > them.
+> > I think the packaging ideas deserve some demos to see if something can =
+be
+> > made
+> > generic enough
+> >
+> > Regards,
+> >
+> > Herv=C3=A9
+> >
+> > >
+> > > John
+> > >
+> > > On 4 November 2017 at 13:18, Paul Hammant <pa...@hammant.org> wrote:
+> > > >> > *3. More pluggable dependency resolver:*
+> > > >>
+> > > >> I am willing to let this be optional scope for now. May be yanked =
+if
+> > too
+> > > >> risky or not ready in time
+> > > >
+> > > > I don't see how you can even make it optional without a pom specifi=
+ed
+> > way
+> > > > of saying "not maven central, this way/place instead"
+> > >
+> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
+> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
+> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
+> >
+> >
+> >
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+On Sat 4 Nov 2017 at 17:11, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
+wrote:
+
+> My wishlist as a user would be:
+>
+> - incremental build (based on scm is fine)
+> - some built in scripting (groovy based?)
+
+
+I have a worry for groovy with Java 9+
+
+And scripting is the path to the dark side of imperative builds... but
+proposals welcome
+
+
+> - plugin sorting from the pom (current rules are deterministic but too ha=
+rd
+> to use so defining a dependency between two executions in the same phase
+> would be very handy - depends-on tag?)
+>
+> As a plugin developper:
+>
+> - programmatic component lookup api (it is deprecated at the moment)
+> - ability to contribute dependencies for next plugins/phases
+> (resolvedArtifacts)
+>
+> Le 4 nov. 2017 17:03, "Stephen Connolly" <stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com=
+>
+> a =C3=A9crit :
+>
+> > On 4 November 2017 at 07:30, Herv=C3=A9 BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr>
+> wrote:
+> >
+> > > Le samedi 4 novembre 2017, 14:43:46 CET John Patrick a =C3=A9crit :
+> > > > I've got a few updates I feel would be useful for the next major
+> > > version;
+> > > >
+> > > > 1) Packaging type generic 'archive', or specific zip or tar.gz
+> > > > - maybe a user property to enable zip and/or tar.gz
+> > > >
+> > > > 2) Packaging type generic 'application', or specific rpm or deb
+> > > > - in future could be extended for windows installers too
+> > > >
+> > > > Over the past 6 years I've mainly created jar, war or ear, but for
+> > > > deployment the standard is bundle it up into a tar.gz or zip, along
+> > > > with the ansible scripts or custom scripts. So I usually use pom
+> > > > packaging then adding assembly plugin, just feels strange doing tha=
+t
+> > > > all the time and it might make it more simpler for everyone.
+> > > do you have some demos of such packagings?
+> > >
+> >
+> > This feels like plugin level functionality. I am unclear how this needs
+> > core changes. Could you provide details where you feel we need to modif=
+y
+> > core for this (or is it you want to be able to fetch some artifacts fro=
+m
+> > within the zip, iow a zip with the other artifacts embedded and we "rea=
+ch
+> > in"?
+> >
+> >
+> > >
+> > > >
+> > > > 3) Checksum, switch to SHA3, drop md5 and sha1. If we care about
+> > > > security, we should keep up to date with what is considered secure
+> > > > still.
+> > > -1
+> > > checksums are checksums, not security
+> > > if you want security, don't look at checksums but at signatures
+> > >
+> > > This makes me think that we should find a way to show security (with
+> > these
+> > > signatures): I don't know precisely how, but that would definitely be
+> > > useful
+> > >
+> > > >
+> > > > 3) Debian style repo management. Instead of having a massive bucket
+> of
+> > > > artefacts, start having repo's either based upon java class version=
+,
+> > > > or maven major release version. Also split more than just release a=
+nd
+> > > > snapshot, maybe core, plugins, general...
+> > > >
+> > > > Not sure exactly the best solution, but as maven central has stuff
+> > > > going back years and years. How much of the old stuff will be used
+> for
+> > > > new projects going forward.
+> > > what's the objective?
+> > > with Linux distributions, there are compatibility issues that require
+> > > different artifacts, and an objective to keep distro on one CD/DVD
+> > > But Java and central don't have such considerations
+> > >
+> > > >
+> > > > Anyway, those are some of my thoughts, if their is a more formal wa=
+y
+> > > > of suggesting them let me know and I'll be happy to raise them
+> > > > separately for consideration and maybe also do some pull requests f=
+or
+> > > > them.
+> > > I think the packaging ideas deserve some demos to see if something ca=
+n
+> be
+> > > made
+> > > generic enough
+> > >
+> > > Regards,
+> > >
+> > > Herv=C3=A9
+> > >
+> > > >
+> > > > John
+> > > >
+> > > > On 4 November 2017 at 13:18, Paul Hammant <pa...@hammant.org> wrote:
+> > > > >> > *3. More pluggable dependency resolver:*
+> > > > >>
+> > > > >> I am willing to let this be optional scope for now. May be yanke=
+d
+> if
+> > > too
+> > > > >> risky or not ready in time
+> > > > >
+> > > > > I don't see how you can even make it optional without a pom
+> specified
+> > > way
+> > > > > of saying "not maven central, this way/place instead"
+> > > >
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+From: Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
+Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2017 18:34:14 +0100
+Message-ID: <CA...@mail.gmail.com>
+Subject: Re: Maven 4.0.0
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+2017-11-04 18:17 GMT+01:00 Stephen Connolly <stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.co=
+m>:
+> On Sat 4 Nov 2017 at 17:11, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
+> wrote:
+>
+>> My wishlist as a user would be:
+>>
+>> - incremental build (based on scm is fine)
+>> - some built in scripting (groovy based?)
+>
+>
+> I have a worry for groovy with Java 9+
+
+Understand, here is the long version of that wish:
+
+1. java -> groovy is very doable (compared to other language) so it is
+the natural language for maven IMHO
+2. groovy will have to support Java 9 - to be honest I worry as much
+for a plain java lib than for groovy so guess it is 1-1
+3. I'm happy to have a java scripting alternative (src/build/java)
+which is not available outside the scope of a plugin (=3D no inherited
+in compile or test scopes)
+
+>
+> And scripting is the path to the dark side of imperative builds... but
+> proposals welcome
+
+This is true but this is also mandatory today. There is a small
+alternative to that and I would be as happy if maven can do it:
+support mojo from the reactor (ie having a project with this layout:
+parent/[module1, my-maven-plugin]). If this works then no need of
+scripting
+but today you must release the mojo before using it in your build
+which imposes to use scripting.
+
+>
+>
+>> - plugin sorting from the pom (current rules are deterministic but too h=
+ard
+>> to use so defining a dependency between two executions in the same phase
+>> would be very handy - depends-on tag?)
+>>
+>> As a plugin developper:
+>>
+>> - programmatic component lookup api (it is deprecated at the moment)
+>> - ability to contribute dependencies for next plugins/phases
+>> (resolvedArtifacts)
+>>
+>> Le 4 nov. 2017 17:03, "Stephen Connolly" <stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.co=
+m>
+>> a =C3=A9crit :
+>>
+>> > On 4 November 2017 at 07:30, Herv=C3=A9 BOUTEMY <herve.boutemy@free.fr=
+>
+>> wrote:
+>> >
+>> > > Le samedi 4 novembre 2017, 14:43:46 CET John Patrick a =C3=A9crit :
+>> > > > I've got a few updates I feel would be useful for the next major
+>> > > version;
+>> > > >
+>> > > > 1) Packaging type generic 'archive', or specific zip or tar.gz
+>> > > > - maybe a user property to enable zip and/or tar.gz
+>> > > >
+>> > > > 2) Packaging type generic 'application', or specific rpm or deb
+>> > > > - in future could be extended for windows installers too
+>> > > >
+>> > > > Over the past 6 years I've mainly created jar, war or ear, but for
+>> > > > deployment the standard is bundle it up into a tar.gz or zip, alon=
+g
+>> > > > with the ansible scripts or custom scripts. So I usually use pom
+>> > > > packaging then adding assembly plugin, just feels strange doing th=
+at
+>> > > > all the time and it might make it more simpler for everyone.
+>> > > do you have some demos of such packagings?
+>> > >
+>> >
+>> > This feels like plugin level functionality. I am unclear how this need=
+s
+>> > core changes. Could you provide details where you feel we need to modi=
+fy
+>> > core for this (or is it you want to be able to fetch some artifacts fr=
+om
+>> > within the zip, iow a zip with the other artifacts embedded and we "re=
+ach
+>> > in"?
+>> >
+>> >
+>> > >
+>> > > >
+>> > > > 3) Checksum, switch to SHA3, drop md5 and sha1. If we care about
+>> > > > security, we should keep up to date with what is considered secure
+>> > > > still.
+>> > > -1
+>> > > checksums are checksums, not security
+>> > > if you want security, don't look at checksums but at signatures
+>> > >
+>> > > This makes me think that we should find a way to show security (with
+>> > these
+>> > > signatures): I don't know precisely how, but that would definitely b=
+e
+>> > > useful
+>> > >
+>> > > >
+>> > > > 3) Debian style repo management. Instead of having a massive bucke=
+t
+>> of
+>> > > > artefacts, start having repo's either based upon java class versio=
+n,
+>> > > > or maven major release version. Also split more than just release =
+and
+>> > > > snapshot, maybe core, plugins, general...
+>> > > >
+>> > > > Not sure exactly the best solution, but as maven central has stuff
+>> > > > going back years and years. How much of the old stuff will be used
+>> for
+>> > > > new projects going forward.
+>> > > what's the objective?
+>> > > with Linux distributions, there are compatibility issues that requir=
+e
+>> > > different artifacts, and an objective to keep distro on one CD/DVD
+>> > > But Java and central don't have such considerations
+>> > >
+>> > > >
+>> > > > Anyway, those are some of my thoughts, if their is a more formal w=
+ay
+>> > > > of suggesting them let me know and I'll be happy to raise them
+>> > > > separately for consideration and maybe also do some pull requests =
+for
+>> > > > them.
+>> > > I think the packaging ideas deserve some demos to see if something c=
+an
+>> be
+>> > > made
+>> > > generic enough
+>> > >
+>> > > Regards,
+>> > >
+>> > > Herv=C3=A9
+>> > >
+>> > > >
+>> > > > John
+>> > > >
+>> > > > On 4 November 2017 at 13:18, Paul Hammant <pa...@hammant.org> wrote=
+:
+>> > > > >> > *3. More pluggable dependency resolver:*
+>> > > > >>
+>> > > > >> I am willing to let this be optional scope for now. May be yank=
+ed
+>> if
+>> > > too
+>> > > > >> risky or not ready in time
+>> > > > >
+>> > > > > I don't see how you can even make it optional without a pom
+>> specified
+>> > > way
+>> > > > > of saying "not maven central, this way/place instead"
+>> > > >
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+> > And scripting is the path to the dark side of imperative builds... but
+> > proposals welcome
+>=20
+> This is true but this is also mandatory today. There is a small
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+> support mojo from the reactor (ie having a project with this layout:
+> parent/[module1, my-maven-plugin]). If this works then no need of
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+I like this idea
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+On Sat 4 Nov 2017 at 17:52, Herv=C3=A9 BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr> wrot=
+e:
+
+> Le samedi 4 novembre 2017, 18:34:14 CET Romain Manni-Bucau a =C3=A9crit :
+> > > And scripting is the path to the dark side of imperative builds... bu=
+t
+> > > proposals welcome
+> >
+> > This is true but this is also mandatory today. There is a small
+> > alternative to that and I would be as happy if maven can do it:
+> > support mojo from the reactor (ie having a project with this layout:
+> > parent/[module1, my-maven-plugin]). If this works then no need of
+> > scripting
+> I like this idea
+
+
+Yes, this is what we should aim for. It feels more =E2=80=9CThe Maven way=
+=E2=80=9D to me.
+
+There would be limitations, namely you cannot use any CLI goals from the
+plugin in your reactor CLI... but goal executions in downstream modules
+within the same reactor should be fine... subject to the reactor parallel
+execution graph restrictions, much like the restrictions we will need to
+fix shade
+
+>
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+>
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+>
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+From: Mark Derricutt <ma...@talios.com>
+Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2017 09:42:34 +1300
+Message-ID: <CA...@mail.gmail.com>
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+Would adding support for 2 new scopes be viable without changing the pom
+model ( the DTD/XSD doesn't actually define the values so that should be
+ok).
+
+Specifically I'm thinking 'annotation' ( having annotationPaths on m-c-p
+was a workaround, but kinda horrible in practice ), and maybe "module" for
+the new module path?
+
+On the topic of scopes, I'd love to see an _actual_ compile-time-only
+scope, thats only at compilation. I wonder, since the scope values are not
+actually set in the DTD/XSDs, could the internals be altered to say a CSV
+of scopes, with the default being "compile,test" which would cover current
+behaviour - but if you specifically say "this is a compile only dependency"
+then it literally is.
+
+Mark
+
+--=20
+"Great artists are extremely selfish and arrogant things" =E2=80=94 Steven =
+Wilson,
+Porcupine Tree
+
+On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 1:20 AM, Stephen Connolly <
+stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
+
+> The past two days, Herv=C3=A9, Robert and I have been discussing our next=
+ steps.
+>
+> I think we have a semi-consensus which I want to bring back to the list:
+>
+> We keep 3.5.x as a stable branch with critical bug fixes only
+>
+> We switch master to 4.0.0 and start to burn down a release scope.
+>
+> 4.0.0 will not change the pom modelVersion
+>
+> The 4.0.0 scope should probably be:
+>
+> Required:
+> * drop Java 7, switch codebase to Java 8 idioms (while maintaining binary
+> api compatibility for plugins)
+> * specify the classloader behaviour and fix impl to align with spec (may
+> need a plugin flag to allow plugins to opt in to spec behaviour)
+> * specify the extension spec
+> * allow limited mutation of the runtime model (reducing transitive
+> dependencies for consumers within the reactor, only for plugin goals that
+> declare intent) use case: shade plugin
+> * better CI integration hooks
+> * nice error message for newer pom modelVersion
+>
+> Optional:
+> * (damn I forgot, maybe Robert remembers)
+> --
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+>
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+On Sat, 04 Nov 2017 18:34:14 +0100, Romain Manni-Bucau =
+
+<rm...@gmail.com> wrote:
+
+> 2017-11-04 18:17 GMT+01:00 Stephen Connolly =
+
+> <st...@gmail.com>:
+>> On Sat 4 Nov 2017 at 17:11, Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau@gmail.com=
+>
+>> wrote:
+>>
+>>> My wishlist as a user would be:
+>>>
+>>> - incremental build (based on scm is fine)
+>>> - some built in scripting (groovy based?)
+>>
+>>
+>> I have a worry for groovy with Java 9+
+>
+> Understand, here is the long version of that wish:
+>
+> 1. java -> groovy is very doable (compared to other language) so it is=
+
+> the natural language for maven IMHO
+> 2. groovy will have to support Java 9 - to be honest I worry as much
+> for a plain java lib than for groovy so guess it is 1-1
+> 3. I'm happy to have a java scripting alternative (src/build/java)
+> which is not available outside the scope of a plugin (=3D no inherited=
+
+> in compile or test scopes)
+>
+>>
+>> And scripting is the path to the dark side of imperative builds... bu=
+t
+>> proposals welcome
+>
+> This is true but this is also mandatory today. There is a small
+> alternative to that and I would be as happy if maven can do it:
+> support mojo from the reactor (ie having a project with this layout:
+> parent/[module1, my-maven-plugin]). If this works then no need of
+> scripting
+> but today you must release the mojo before using it in your build
+> which imposes to use scripting.
+
+sounds like https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MNG-6118
+right?
+
+>
+>>
+>>
+>>> - plugin sorting from the pom (current rules are deterministic but t=
+oo =
+
+>>> hard
+>>> to use so defining a dependency between two executions in the same =
+
+>>> phase
+>>> would be very handy - depends-on tag?)
+>>>
+>>> As a plugin developper:
+>>>
+>>> - programmatic component lookup api (it is deprecated at the moment)=
+
+>>> - ability to contribute dependencies for next plugins/phases
+>>> (resolvedArtifacts)
+>>>
+>>> Le 4 nov. 2017 17:03, "Stephen Connolly" =
+
+>>> <st...@gmail.com>
+>>> a =E9crit :
+>>>
+>>> > On 4 November 2017 at 07:30, Herv=E9 BOUTEMY <herve.boutemy@free.f=
+r>
+>>> wrote:
+>>> >
+>>> > > Le samedi 4 novembre 2017, 14:43:46 CET John Patrick a =E9crit :=
+
+>>> > > > I've got a few updates I feel would be useful for the next ma=
+jor
+>>> > > version;
+>>> > > >
+>>> > > > 1) Packaging type generic 'archive', or specific zip or tar.gz=
+
+>>> > > > - maybe a user property to enable zip and/or tar.gz
+>>> > > >
+>>> > > > 2) Packaging type generic 'application', or specific rpm or de=
+b
+>>> > > > - in future could be extended for windows installers too
+>>> > > >
+>>> > > > Over the past 6 years I've mainly created jar, war or ear, but=
+ =
+
+>>> for
+>>> > > > deployment the standard is bundle it up into a tar.gz or zip, =
+ =
+
+>>> along
+>>> > > > with the ansible scripts or custom scripts. So I usually use p=
+om
+>>> > > > packaging then adding assembly plugin, just feels strange doin=
+g =
+
+>>> that
+>>> > > > all the time and it might make it more simpler for everyone.
+>>> > > do you have some demos of such packagings?
+>>> > >
+>>> >
+>>> > This feels like plugin level functionality. I am unclear how this =
+ =
+
+>>> needs
+>>> > core changes. Could you provide details where you feel we need to =
+ =
+
+>>> modify
+>>> > core for this (or is it you want to be able to fetch some artifact=
+s =
+
+>>> from
+>>> > within the zip, iow a zip with the other artifacts embedded and we=
+ =
+
+>>> "reach
+>>> > in"?
+>>> >
+>>> >
+>>> > >
+>>> > > >
+>>> > > > 3) Checksum, switch to SHA3, drop md5 and sha1. If we care abo=
+ut
+>>> > > > security, we should keep up to date with what is considered =
+
+>>> secure
+>>> > > > still.
+>>> > > -1
+>>> > > checksums are checksums, not security
+>>> > > if you want security, don't look at checksums but at signatures
+>>> > >
+>>> > > This makes me think that we should find a way to show security =
+
+>>> (with
+>>> > these
+>>> > > signatures): I don't know precisely how, but that would definite=
+ly =
+
+>>> be
+>>> > > useful
+>>> > >
+>>> > > >
+>>> > > > 3) Debian style repo management. Instead of having a massive =
+
+>>> bucket
+>>> of
+>>> > > > artefacts, start having repo's either based upon java class =
+
+>>> version,
+>>> > > > or maven major release version. Also split more than just =
+
+>>> release and
+>>> > > > snapshot, maybe core, plugins, general...
+>>> > > >
+>>> > > > Not sure exactly the best solution, but as maven central has =
+
+>>> stuff
+>>> > > > going back years and years. How much of the old stuff will be =
+ =
+
+>>> used
+>>> for
+>>> > > > new projects going forward.
+>>> > > what's the objective?
+>>> > > with Linux distributions, there are compatibility issues that =
+
+>>> require
+>>> > > different artifacts, and an objective to keep distro on one CD/D=
+VD
+>>> > > But Java and central don't have such considerations
+>>> > >
+>>> > > >
+>>> > > > Anyway, those are some of my thoughts, if their is a more form=
+al =
+
+>>> way
+>>> > > > of suggesting them let me know and I'll be happy to raise them=
+
+>>> > > > separately for consideration and maybe also do some pull =
+
+>>> requests for
+>>> > > > them.
+>>> > > I think the packaging ideas deserve some demos to see if somethi=
+ng =
+
+>>> can
+>>> be
+>>> > > made
+>>> > > generic enough
+>>> > >
+>>> > > Regards,
+>>> > >
+>>> > > Herv=E9
+>>> > >
+>>> > > >
+>>> > > > John
+>>> > > >
+>>> > > > On 4 November 2017 at 13:18, Paul Hammant <pa...@hammant.org> =
+
+>>> wrote:
+>>> > > > >> > *3. More pluggable dependency resolver:*
+>>> > > > >>
+>>> > > > >> I am willing to let this be optional scope for now. May be =
+ =
+
+>>> yanked
+>>> if
+>>> > > too
+>>> > > > >> risky or not ready in time
+>>> > > > >
+>>> > > > > I don't see how you can even make it optional without a pom
+>>> specified
+>>> > > way
+>>> > > > > of saying "not maven central, this way/place instead"
+>>> > > >
+>>> > > > =
+
+>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------=
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+On Sat, 04 Nov 2017 21:42:34 +0100, Mark Derricutt <ma...@talios.com> wrote:
+
+> Would adding support for 2 new scopes be viable without changing the pom
+> model ( the DTD/XSD doesn't actually define the values so that should be
+> ok).
+>
+> Specifically I'm thinking 'annotation' ( having annotationPaths on m-c-p
+> was a workaround, but kinda horrible in practice ), and maybe "module"
+> for
+> the new module path?
+
+I would like to drop strict scopes in general and give plugins the
+opportunity to depend on specific scoped dependencies.
+I hope you are aware that modules already end up on the modulepath based
+on the moduledescriptor(s). So I don't see the need for this scope.
+(unless you have this wish that in the end Maven will create the module
+descriptor based on this, but I still think we shouldn't do that)
+
+>
+> On the topic of scopes, I'd love to see an _actual_ compile-time-only
+> scope, thats only at compilation. I wonder, since the scope values are
+> not
+> actually set in the DTD/XSDs, could the internals be altered to say a CSV
+> of scopes, with the default being "compile,test" which would cover
+> current
+> behaviour - but if you specifically say "this is a compile only
+> dependency"
+> then it literally is.
+
+I recognize this wish. The best solution is to make the dependency
+optional.
+
+>
+> Mark
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+Le samedi 4 novembre 2017, 22:35:35 CET Robert Scholte a =E9crit :
+> On Sat, 04 Nov 2017 18:34:14 +0100, Romain Manni-Bucau
+>=20
+> <rm...@gmail.com> wrote:
+> > 2017-11-04 18:17 GMT+01:00 Stephen Connolly
+> >=20
+> > <st...@gmail.com>:
+> >> On Sat 4 Nov 2017 at 17:11, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
+> >>=20
+> >> wrote:
+> >>> My wishlist as a user would be:
+> >>>=20
+> >>> - incremental build (based on scm is fine)
+> >>> - some built in scripting (groovy based?)
+> >>=20
+> >> I have a worry for groovy with Java 9+
+> >=20
+> > Understand, here is the long version of that wish:
+> >=20
+> > 1. java -> groovy is very doable (compared to other language) so it is
+> > the natural language for maven IMHO
+> > 2. groovy will have to support Java 9 - to be honest I worry as much
+> > for a plain java lib than for groovy so guess it is 1-1
+> > 3. I'm happy to have a java scripting alternative (src/build/java)
+> > which is not available outside the scope of a plugin (=3D no inherited
+> > in compile or test scopes)
+> >=20
+> >> And scripting is the path to the dark side of imperative builds... but
+> >> proposals welcome
+> >=20
+> > This is true but this is also mandatory today. There is a small
+> > alternative to that and I would be as happy if maven can do it:
+> > support mojo from the reactor (ie having a project with this layout:
+> > parent/[module1, my-maven-plugin]). If this works then no need of
+> > scripting
+> > but today you must release the mojo before using it in your build
+> > which imposes to use scripting.
+>=20
+> sounds like https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MNG-6118
+> right?
+
+no: MNG-6118 is about restrictions where a plugin mojo runs
+
+here, it's about using a plugin *from the reactor*: sure, there is a=20
+restriction because the plugin module has to be built first, to be availabl=
+e=20
+for other modules consumption, but it's just a consequence of the need, not=
+=20
+really a goal per se (unlike MNG-6118)
+
+Regards,
+
+Herv=E9
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+On Sun, 05 Nov 2017 07:04:54 +0100, Herv=E9 BOUTEMY <herve.boutemy@free.=
+fr> =
+
+wrote:
+
+> Le samedi 4 novembre 2017, 22:35:35 CET Robert Scholte a =E9crit :
+>> On Sat, 04 Nov 2017 18:34:14 +0100, Romain Manni-Bucau
+>>
+>> <rm...@gmail.com> wrote:
+>> > 2017-11-04 18:17 GMT+01:00 Stephen Connolly
+>> >
+>> > <st...@gmail.com>:
+>> >> On Sat 4 Nov 2017 at 17:11, Romain Manni-Bucau =
+
+>> <rm...@gmail.com>
+>> >>
+>> >> wrote:
+>> >>> My wishlist as a user would be:
+>> >>>
+>> >>> - incremental build (based on scm is fine)
+>> >>> - some built in scripting (groovy based?)
+>> >>
+>> >> I have a worry for groovy with Java 9+
+>> >
+>> > Understand, here is the long version of that wish:
+>> >
+>> > 1. java -> groovy is very doable (compared to other language) so it=
+ is
+>> > the natural language for maven IMHO
+>> > 2. groovy will have to support Java 9 - to be honest I worry as muc=
+h
+>> > for a plain java lib than for groovy so guess it is 1-1
+>> > 3. I'm happy to have a java scripting alternative (src/build/java)
+>> > which is not available outside the scope of a plugin (=3D no inheri=
+ted
+>> > in compile or test scopes)
+>> >
+>> >> And scripting is the path to the dark side of imperative builds...=
+ =
+
+>> but
+>> >> proposals welcome
+>> >
+>> > This is true but this is also mandatory today. There is a small
+>> > alternative to that and I would be as happy if maven can do it:
+>> > support mojo from the reactor (ie having a project with this layout=
+:
+>> > parent/[module1, my-maven-plugin]). If this works then no need of
+>> > scripting
+>> > but today you must release the mojo before using it in your build
+>> > which imposes to use scripting.
+>>
+>> sounds like https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MNG-6118
+>> right?
+>
+> no: MNG-6118 is about restrictions where a plugin mojo runs
+>
+> here, it's about using a plugin *from the reactor*: sure, there is a
+> restriction because the plugin module has to be built first, to be =
+
+> available
+> for other modules consumption, but it's just a consequence of the need=
+, =
+
+> not
+> really a goal per se (unlike MNG-6118)
+
+So this issue is about a plugin being part of the buildplan AND being pa=
+rt =
+
+of the reactor.
+I recognize the pro's and cons, but that deserves a separate mailthread =
+to =
+
+discuss.
+
+Robert
+
+>
+> Regards,
+>
+> Herv=E9
+>
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+From: Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>
+Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2017 17:57:27 +0000
+Message-ID: <CA...@mail.gmail.com>
+Subject: Reactor safe/rally points
+To: Maven Developers List <de...@maven.apache.org>
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+There are two sets of problems that, assuming we want to fix, both need
+some way to rally a concurrent multimodule build at.
+
+1. There is the shade like class of problems, where a plugin wants to
+modify the effective transitive dependencies of a module.
+
+2. There is the extensibility class of problems, where people want to build
+a plugin and consume the same plugin in one reactor.
+
+Now in both cases, I think we can solve a subset of these problems by
+introducing a concept of a rally / safe point in the build plan.
+
+The mutable model can be solved for reducing scope/ removing
+dependencies... could possibly also allow adding dependencies, provided the
+dependencies are not part of the reactor. The proviso is that the plugin
+goal would need to be marked as a =E2=80=9Cmutation=E2=80=9D goal, and the =
+execution of all
+=E2=80=9Cmutation=E2=80=9D goals for a module defines a safe-point. All dow=
+nstream modules
+that declare a dependency must be blocked from execution until the
+safe-point is reached.
+
+Discussion points:
+* how do we handle a build request that will never reach the safe-point, eg
+`mvn test` will not reach package, and hence will not rub shade... should
+we say: fine, no safepoint in build plan, so all good... should we say:
+oops escalate the module with a safe point to `package`?
+* while technically possible to *add* ex-reactor dependencies (if
+ex-reactor they cannot affect the build plan) it could be a bad idea for
+build requests that wouldn=E2=80=99t reach the safepoint, is that reason en=
+ough to
+reject addition?
+
+The extensibility issue is actually an important case. Users want features
+like scripting because they need something custom. Scripting brings back
+imperative builds, which IMHO Maven views as an anti-pattern.
+
+So what is the problem people are trying to solve? They want a plugin for
+just one project. Right now you cannot because we cannot instantiate the
+full build plan until we can inspect the plugin metadata... but until we
+build the plugin we cannot get the metadata.
+
+With a general plugin, I think there is not much we can do. For example a
+plugin redefining a lifecycle might actually mean that the build plan will
+be different for modules using that plugin as an extension.
+
+But if the plugin is just defining some goals and those goals are just
+bound to phases in the pre-existing life cycles... again, it seems we can
+allow the build to proceed
+
+Discussion points:
+* how to handle `mvn test`. If the plugin is only bound to later phases, we
+are good... but what if the plugin is bound to an early phase? Do we just
+bomb out and say, sorry you need to invoke at least package? Do we fall
+back to local repo? Do we upscale the build plan for the plugin to package
+* how to handle `mvn site`... in this case we wouldn=E2=80=99t be producing=
+ the
+plugin in the reactor anyway... do we bomb out and say =E2=80=9Cyou must do=
+ `mvn
+package site`=E2=80=9C? Do we modify the build plan? Do we use local repo?
+* we could be smarter and use the build plan safepoint as a staging point
+and allow lifecycles and other things... though obviously more work
+* what about invoking a plugin goal from the CLI directly... do we ask for
+`mvn package foo:manchu`? For this to work, foo:manchu would have to be an
+aggregator goal, otherwise it could be an execution request on earlier
+modules by a later module? Could we delay the build plan instantiation
+until after the plugin is built? Could we just require the plugin be served
+from the local repository and revalidate the build plan after the new
+plugin build is available?
+
+I think these are two improvements that could be made *without* changes to
+the modelVersion and they would have a real and meaningful improvement for
+our users... as such I would like us to consider (as optional goals) for
+Maven 4.0.0
+
+Wdyt?
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+To: "Maven Developers List" <de...@maven.apache.org>
+Subject: Re: JDK 10 b29 Early Access is available on jdk.java.net
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+On 3 Nov 2017, at 22:48, Rory O'Donnell wrote:
+
+> JDK 10 Early Access=C2=A0 build 29 is available at : - jdk.java.net/10/=
+
+
+Looks like Surefire is the first casualty:
+
+Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException
+ at org.apache.maven.surefire.shade.org.apache.commons.lang3.SystemUti=
+ls.isJavaVersionAtLeast (SystemUtils.java:1626)
+ at org.apache.maven.plugin.surefire.AbstractSurefireMojo.getEffective=
+Jvm (AbstractSurefireMojo.java:2107)
+ at org.apache.maven.plugin.surefire.AbstractSurefireMojo.getForkConfi=
+guration (AbstractSurefireMojo.java:1976)
+ at org.apache.maven.plugin.surefire.AbstractSurefireMojo.executeProvi=
+der (AbstractSurefireMojo.java:1111)
+ at org.apache.maven.plugin.surefire.AbstractSurefireMojo.executeAfter=
+PreconditionsChecked (AbstractSurefireMojo.java:954)
+ at org.apache.maven.plugin.surefire.AbstractSurefireMojo.execute (Abs=
+tractSurefireMojo.java:832)
+ at org.apache.maven.plugin.DefaultBuildPluginManager.executeMojo (Def=
+aultBuildPluginManager.java:134)
+
+I guess that new-new version string change is gonna bite everyone....
+
+
+
+---
+"The ease with which a change can be implemented has no relevance at all =
+to whether it is the right change for the (Java) Platform for all time." =
+— Mark Reinhold.
+
+Mark Derricutt
+http://www.theoryinpractice.net
+http://www.chaliceofblood.net
+http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt
+http://twitter.com/talios
+http://facebook.com/mderricutt
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+<p dir=3D"auto">On 3 Nov 2017, at 22:48, Rory O'Donnell wrote:</p>
+
+<blockquote style=3D"border-left:2px solid #5855D5; color:#5855D5; margin=
+:0 0 5px; padding-left:5px">
+<p dir=3D"auto">JDK 10 Early Access=C2=A0 build 29 is available at : - jd=
+k.java.net/10/</p>
+</blockquote>
+
+<p dir=3D"auto">Looks like Surefire is the first casualty:</p>
+
+<p dir=3D"auto">Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException<br>
+ at org.apache.maven.surefire.shade.org.apache.commons.lang3.SystemUti=
+ls.isJavaVersionAtLeast (SystemUtils.java:1626)<br>
+ at org.apache.maven.plugin.surefire.AbstractSurefireMojo.getEffective=
+Jvm (AbstractSurefireMojo.java:2107)<br>
+ at org.apache.maven.plugin.surefire.AbstractSurefireMojo.getForkConfi=
+guration (AbstractSurefireMojo.java:1976)<br>
+ at org.apache.maven.plugin.surefire.AbstractSurefireMojo.executeProvi=
+der (AbstractSurefireMojo.java:1111)<br>
+ at org.apache.maven.plugin.surefire.AbstractSurefireMojo.executeAfter=
+PreconditionsChecked (AbstractSurefireMojo.java:954)<br>
+ at org.apache.maven.plugin.surefire.AbstractSurefireMojo.execute (Abs=
+tractSurefireMojo.java:832)<br>
+ at org.apache.maven.plugin.DefaultBuildPluginManager.executeMojo (Def=
+aultBuildPluginManager.java:134)</p>
+
+<p dir=3D"auto">I guess that new-new version string change is gonna bite =
+everyone....</p>
+
+<hr>
+
+<p dir=3D"auto">"The ease with which a change can be implemented has no r=
+elevance at all to whether it is the right change for the (Java) Platform=
+ for all time." =E2=80=94 Mark Reinhold.</p>
+
+<p dir=3D"auto">Mark Derricutt<br>
+<a href=3D"http://www.theoryinpractice.net">http://www.theoryinpractice.n=
+et</a><br>
+<a href=3D"http://www.chaliceofblood.net">http://www.chaliceofblood.net</=
+a><br>
+<a href=3D"http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt">http://plus.google.com/=
++MarkDerricutt</a><br>
+<a href=3D"http://twitter.com/talios">http://twitter.com/talios</a><br>
+<a href=3D"http://facebook.com/mderricutt">http://facebook.com/mderricutt=
+</a></p>
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+Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2017 10:20:23 +1300
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+On 5 Nov 2017, at 10:42, Robert Scholte wrote:
+
+> I would like to drop strict scopes in general and give plugins the oppo=
+rtunity to depend on
+> specific scoped dependencies.
+
+How would this help with annotations tho? The main issue I'm facing is ha=
+ving a standard m-c-p plugin definition in a parent ( or tile ) but needi=
+ng different annotation processors used per project. With the current plu=
+gin, this means either listing them as standard dependencies and have the=
+m auto-scanned, and pollute the compilation classpath, or list every poss=
+ible annotation processor dependency we may use in our projects in the pa=
+rent, which is less than ideal.
+
+> I hope you are aware that modules already end up on the modulepath base=
+d on the moduledescriptor(s). So I don't see the need for this scope. (un=
+less you have this wish that in the end Maven will create the module desc=
+riptor based on this, but I still think we shouldn't do that)
+
+I remembered reading something about this, and assumed it was the case if=
+ there was a module-info.class, but what if its a standard jar with an Au=
+tomatic-Module-Name header? Does that fall into the module path or classp=
+ath? Having control for this case may be useful.
+
+
+> I recognize this wish. The best solution is to make the dependency opti=
+onal.
+
+The problem with this is that the dependency is still on the classpath fo=
+r say surefire, which can influence behaviour.
+
+Mark
+
+
+
+---
+"The ease with which a change can be implemented has no relevance at all =
+to whether it is the right change for the (Java) Platform for all time." =
+— Mark Reinhold.
+
+Mark Derricutt
+http://www.theoryinpractice.net
+http://www.chaliceofblood.net
+http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt
+http://twitter.com/talios
+http://facebook.com/mderricutt
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+<div style=3D"font-family:sans-serif"><div style=3D"white-space:normal">
+<p dir=3D"auto">On 5 Nov 2017, at 10:42, Robert Scholte wrote:</p>
+
+</div>
+<div style=3D"white-space:normal"><blockquote style=3D"border-left:2px so=
+lid #5855D5; color:#5855D5; margin:0 0 5px; padding-left:5px"><p dir=3D"a=
+uto">I would like to drop strict scopes in general and give plugins the o=
+pportunity to depend on<br>
+specific scoped dependencies.</p>
+</blockquote></div>
+<div style=3D"white-space:normal">
+
+<p dir=3D"auto">How would this help with annotations tho? The main issue =
+I'm facing is having a standard m-c-p plugin definition in a parent ( or =
+tile ) but needing different annotation processors used per project. With=
+ the current plugin, this means either listing them as standard dependenc=
+ies and have them auto-scanned, and pollute the compilation classpath, or=
+ list every possible annotation processor dependency we may use in our pr=
+ojects in the parent, which is less than ideal.</p>
+
+</div>
+<div style=3D"white-space:normal"><blockquote style=3D"border-left:2px so=
+lid #5855D5; color:#5855D5; margin:0 0 5px; padding-left:5px"><p dir=3D"a=
+uto">I hope you are aware that modules already end up on the modulepath b=
+ased on the moduledescriptor(s). So I don't see the need for this scope. =
+(unless you have this wish that in the end Maven will create the module d=
+escriptor based on this, but I still think we shouldn't do that)</p>
+</blockquote></div>
+<div style=3D"white-space:normal">
+
+<p dir=3D"auto">I remembered reading something about this, and assumed it=
+ was the case if there was a module-info.class, but what if its a standar=
+d jar with an Automatic-Module-Name header? Does that fall into the modul=
+e path or classpath? Having control for this case may be useful.</p>
+
+</div>
+<div style=3D"white-space:normal"><blockquote style=3D"border-left:2px so=
+lid #5855D5; color:#5855D5; margin:0 0 5px; padding-left:5px"><p dir=3D"a=
+uto">I recognize this wish. The best solution is to make the dependency o=
+ptional.</p>
+</blockquote></div>
+<div style=3D"white-space:normal">
+
+<p dir=3D"auto">The problem with this is that the dependency is still on =
+the classpath for say surefire, which can influence behaviour.</p>
+
+<p dir=3D"auto">Mark</p>
+
+<hr>
+
+<p dir=3D"auto">"The ease with which a change can be implemented has no r=
+elevance at all to whether it is the right change for the (Java) Platform=
+ for all time." =E2=80=94 Mark Reinhold.</p>
+
+<p dir=3D"auto">Mark Derricutt<br>
+<a href=3D"http://www.theoryinpractice.net">http://www.theoryinpractice.n=
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+a><br>
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+Hello,
+
+Adding annotations and processor as a compiletime dependency sounds like a =
+reasonable thing. It would however be cool if the JAR could describe which =
+package needs to go on the classpath and which is processor impl. (and havi=
+ng a different artifact for runtime)
+
+Gruss
+Bernd
+
+Von: Mark Derricutt
+Gesendet: Sonntag, 5. November 2017 22:20
+An: Maven Developers List
+Betreff: Re: Maven 4.0.0
+
+On 5 Nov 2017, at 10:42, Robert Scholte wrote:
+I would like to drop strict scopes in general and give plugins the opportun=
+ity to depend on
+specific scoped dependencies.
+How would this help with annotations tho? The main issue I'm facing is havi=
+ng a standard m-c-p plugin definition in a parent ( or tile ) but needing d=
+ifferent annotation processors used per project. With the current plugin, t=
+his means either listing them as standard dependencies and have them auto-s=
+canned, and pollute the compilation classpath, or list every possible annot=
+ation processor dependency we may use in our projects in the parent, which =
+is less than ideal.
+I hope you are aware that modules already end up on the modulepath based on=
+ the moduledescriptor(s). So I don't see the need for this scope. (unless y=
+ou have this wish that in the end Maven will create the module descriptor b=
+ased on this, but I still think we shouldn't do that)
+I remembered reading something about this, and assumed it was the case if t=
+here was a module-info.class, but what if its a standard jar with an Automa=
+tic-Module-Name header? Does that fall into the module path or classpath? H=
+aving control for this case may be useful.
+I recognize this wish. The best solution is to make the dependency optional=
+.
+The problem with this is that the dependency is still on the classpath for =
+say surefire, which can influence behaviour.
+Mark
+
+"The ease with which a change can be implemented has no relevance at all to=
+ whether it is the right change for the (Java) Platform for all time." =E2=
+=80=94 Mark Reinhold.
+Mark Derricutt
+http://www.theoryinpractice.net
+http://www.chaliceofblood.net
+http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt
+http://twitter.com/talios
+http://facebook.com/mderricutt
+
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+=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>Hello,<o:p></o:p></=
+span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></=
+p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>Adding annotations and processor =
+as a compiletime dependency sounds like a reasonable thing. It would howeve=
+r be cool if the JAR could describe which package needs to go on the classp=
+ath and which is processor impl. (and having a different artifact for runti=
+me)</span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNorma=
+l>Gruss</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Bernd</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </=
+o:p></p><div style=3D'mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:so=
+lid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'=
+border:none;padding:0cm'><b>Von: </b><a href=3D"mailto:mark@talios.com">Mar=
+k Derricutt</a><br><b>Gesendet: </b>Sonntag, 5. November 2017 22:20<br><b>A=
+n: </b><a href=3D"mailto:dev@maven.apache.org">Maven Developers List</a><br=
+><b>Betreff: </b>Re: Maven 4.0.0</p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> <=
+/o:p></p><p><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>On 5 Nov 2017, a=
+t 10:42, Robert Scholte wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><blockquote style=
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+argin-left:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:3.75pt'><p><span style=3D'fon=
+t-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5855D5'>I would like to drop strict scop=
+es in general and give plugins the opportunity to depend on<br>specific sco=
+ped dependencies.<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div><div><p><span sty=
+le=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>How would this help with annotations =
+tho? The main issue I'm facing is having a standard m-c-p plugin definition=
+ in a parent ( or tile ) but needing different annotation processors used p=
+er project. With the current plugin, this means either listing them as stan=
+dard dependencies and have them auto-scanned, and pollute the compilation c=
+lasspath, or list every possible annotation processor dependency we may use=
+ in our projects in the parent, which is less than ideal.<o:p></o:p></span>=
+</p></div><div><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #5855D5 1=
+.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bott=
+om:3.75pt'><p><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5855D5'>=
+I hope you are aware that modules already end up on the modulepath based on=
+ the moduledescriptor(s). So I don't see the need for this scope. (unless y=
+ou have this wish that in the end Maven will create the module descriptor b=
+ased on this, but I still think we shouldn't do that)<o:p></o:p></span></p>=
+</blockquote></div><div><p><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I=
+ remembered reading something about this, and assumed it was the case if th=
+ere was a module-info.class, but what if its a standard jar with an Automat=
+ic-Module-Name header? Does that fall into the module path or classpath? Ha=
+ving control for this case may be useful.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><=
+blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #5855D5 1.5pt;padding:0cm=
+ 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:3.75pt'><p><s=
+pan style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5855D5'>I recognize this=
+ wish. The best solution is to make the dependency optional.<o:p></o:p></sp=
+an></p></blockquote></div><div><p><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-s=
+erif'>The problem with this is that the dependency is still on the classpat=
+h for say surefire, which can influence behaviour.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p>=
+<span style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p><p=
+ class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><img bord=
+er=3D0 width=3D283 height=3D0 style=3D'width:2.95in;height:.0041in' id=3D"H=
+orizontal_x0020_Line_x0020_1" src=3D"cid:image002.png@01D35685.4883E980"></=
+span><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><=
+p><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>"The ease with which =
+a change can be implemented has no relevance at all to whether it is the ri=
+ght change for the (Java) Platform for all time." =E2=80=94 Mark Reinh=
+old.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-=
+serif'>Mark Derricutt<br><a href=3D"http://www.theoryinpractice.net">http:/=
+/www.theoryinpractice.net</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.chaliceofblood.net">=
+http://www.chaliceofblood.net</a><br><a href=3D"http://plus.google.com/+Mar=
+kDerricutt">http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt</a><br><a href=3D"http://=
+twitter.com/talios">http://twitter.com/talios</a><br><a href=3D"http://face=
+book.com/mderricutt">http://facebook.com/mderricutt</a><o:p></o:p></span></=
+p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>=
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+From: Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
+Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2017 17:53:50 -0700
+Message-ID: <CA...@mail.gmail.com>
+Subject: Re: JDK 10 b29 Early Access is available on jdk.java.net
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+The VOTE to release Commons Lang 3.7 is underway. This will fix the NOW.
+
+Gary
+
+On Nov 5, 2017 14:06, "Mark Derricutt" <ma...@talios.com> wrote:
+
+> On 3 Nov 2017, at 22:48, Rory O'Donnell wrote:
+>
+> JDK 10 Early Access build 29 is available at : - jdk.java.net/10/
+>
+> Looks like Surefire is the first casualty:
+>
+> Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException
+> at org.apache.maven.surefire.shade.org.apache.commons.lang3.SystemUtils.i=
+sJavaVersionAtLeast
+> (SystemUtils.java:1626)
+> at org.apache.maven.plugin.surefire.AbstractSurefireMojo.getEffectiveJvm
+> (AbstractSurefireMojo.java:2107)
+> at org.apache.maven.plugin.surefire.AbstractSurefireMojo.getForkConfigura=
+tion
+> (AbstractSurefireMojo.java:1976)
+> at org.apache.maven.plugin.surefire.AbstractSurefireMojo.executeProvider
+> (AbstractSurefireMojo.java:1111)
+> at org.apache.maven.plugin.surefire.AbstractSurefireMojo.
+> executeAfterPreconditionsChecked (AbstractSurefireMojo.java:954)
+> at org.apache.maven.plugin.surefire.AbstractSurefireMojo.execute
+> (AbstractSurefireMojo.java:832)
+> at org.apache.maven.plugin.DefaultBuildPluginManager.executeMojo
+> (DefaultBuildPluginManager.java:134)
+>
+> I guess that new-new version string change is gonna bite everyone....
+> ------------------------------
+>
+> "The ease with which a change can be implemented has no relevance at all
+> to whether it is the right change for the (Java) Platform for all time." =
+=E2=80=94
+> Mark Reinhold.
+>
+> Mark Derricutt
+> http://www.theoryinpractice.net
+> http://www.chaliceofblood.net
+> http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt
+> http://twitter.com/talios
+> http://facebook.com/mderricutt
+>
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+Both these use cases sound like adding incredible complexity to support =
+less than 1% situations, and worse, encouraging monolithic builds. =20
+
+In the first case, the module creating a shaded jar can mark its =
+constituent jars as optional; preventing the transitive dependencies.
+In the second case, It would be better for the plugin be an independent =
+build to encourage re-use of that plugin.
+
+> There are two sets of problems that, assuming we want to fix, both =
+need
+> some way to rally a concurrent multimodule build at.
+>=20
+> 1. There is the shade like class of problems, where a plugin wants to
+> modify the effective transitive dependencies of a module.
+>=20
+> 2. There is the extensibility class of problems, where people want to =
+build
+> a plugin and consume the same plugin in one reactor.
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+From: Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>
+Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2017 07:30:05 +0000
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+Subject: Re: Reactor safe/rally points
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+On Mon 6 Nov 2017 at 01:48, Charles Honton <ch...@honton.org> wrote:
+
+> Both these use cases sound like adding incredible complexity to support
+> less than 1% situations, and worse, encouraging monolithic builds.
+>
+> In the first case, the module creating a shaded jar can mark its
+> constituent jars as optional; preventing the transitive dependencies.
+
+
+Ha! That does not do what you think it does.
+
+Optional dependencies are still there but only as a version constraint that
+gets applied if something else brings the dependency into the tree in as a
+non-optional dependency.
+
+Normally you need a complex deep tree to see the effect (as most people use
+version hints rather than specifications... and with hints, closest wins,
+whereas specifications are globally merged)
+
+Provided scope is more correct, but shade doesn=E2=80=99t operate on provid=
+ed
+scope... and anyway iirc that also pushes the constraint as transitive.
+
+With shade, the dependency is removed.
+
+
+> In the second case, It would be better for the plugin be an independent
+> build to encourage re-use of that plugin.
+
+
+Yes it would, but socially people don=E2=80=99t do that... and anyway, ther=
+e are
+legitimate use cases, eg tomee has (or had if they gave up fighting and
+moved it out of reactor) a plugin that was tied to the container version.
+To allow integration tests in the same reactor as the main codebase, it is
+reasonable to want the plugin built at the same time.
+
+If we don=E2=80=99t allow people to build the plugin in the same reactor, t=
+hey just
+fight us and add scripts or move to other build tools... both of which
+removes the benefits of Maven.
+
+This would provide a better path, and eventually they will =E2=80=9Csee sen=
+se=E2=80=9D
+(translation, find other projects that need the same functionality) and
+pull the plugin into its own reactor.
+
+
+>
+> > There are two sets of problems that, assuming we want to fix, both need
+> > some way to rally a concurrent multimodule build at.
+> >
+> > 1. There is the shade like class of problems, where a plugin wants to
+> > modify the effective transitive dependencies of a module.
+> >
+> > 2. There is the extensibility class of problems, where people want to
+> build
+> > a plugin and consume the same plugin in one reactor.
+>
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+From: Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>
+Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2017 07:54:32 +0000
+Message-ID: <CA...@mail.gmail.com>
+Subject: Re: Reactor safe/rally points
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+On Sun 5 Nov 2017 at 21:17, Robert Scholte <ap...@sourcegrounds.com> wrote=
+:
+
+> One thing I'd like to change is that if a module is a dependency it must
+> really behave like one. It should not be the MavenProject, that should
+> only be used for building *that* project. It should act as if it was
+> downloaded via the artifact resolver
+
+
+Which would need safe points too... eg flatten Maven plugin would need to
+flag being a pom modifier goal... otherwise how do you know when the model
+has changed ahead of time in creating the build plan
+
+
+> Robert
+>
+> Verzonden vanaf mijn Samsung Galaxy-smartphone.
+> -------- Oorspronkelijk bericht --------Van: Stephen Connolly <
+> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> Datum: 05-11-17 18:57 (GMT+01:00) Aan:
+> Maven Developers List <de...@maven.apache.org> Onderwerp: Reactor
+> safe/rally points
+> There are two sets of problems that, assuming we want to fix, both need
+> some way to rally a concurrent multimodule build at.
+>
+> 1. There is the shade like class of problems, where a plugin wants to
+> modify the effective transitive dependencies of a module.
+>
+> 2. There is the extensibility class of problems, where people want to bui=
+ld
+> a plugin and consume the same plugin in one reactor.
+>
+> Now in both cases, I think we can solve a subset of these problems by
+> introducing a concept of a rally / safe point in the build plan.
+>
+> The mutable model can be solved for reducing scope/ removing
+> dependencies... could possibly also allow adding dependencies, provided t=
+he
+> dependencies are not part of the reactor. The proviso is that the plugin
+> goal would need to be marked as a =E2=80=9Cmutation=E2=80=9D goal, and th=
+e execution of all
+> =E2=80=9Cmutation=E2=80=9D goals for a module defines a safe-point. All d=
+ownstream modules
+> that declare a dependency must be blocked from execution until the
+> safe-point is reached.
+>
+> Discussion points:
+> * how do we handle a build request that will never reach the safe-point, =
+eg
+> `mvn test` will not reach package, and hence will not rub shade... should
+> we say: fine, no safepoint in build plan, so all good... should we say:
+> oops escalate the module with a safe point to `package`?
+> * while technically possible to *add* ex-reactor dependencies (if
+> ex-reactor they cannot affect the build plan) it could be a bad idea for
+> build requests that wouldn=E2=80=99t reach the safepoint, is that reason =
+enough to
+> reject addition?
+>
+> The extensibility issue is actually an important case. Users want feature=
+s
+> like scripting because they need something custom. Scripting brings back
+> imperative builds, which IMHO Maven views as an anti-pattern.
+>
+> So what is the problem people are trying to solve? They want a plugin for
+> just one project. Right now you cannot because we cannot instantiate the
+> full build plan until we can inspect the plugin metadata... but until we
+> build the plugin we cannot get the metadata.
+>
+> With a general plugin, I think there is not much we can do. For example a
+> plugin redefining a lifecycle might actually mean that the build plan wil=
+l
+> be different for modules using that plugin as an extension.
+>
+> But if the plugin is just defining some goals and those goals are just
+> bound to phases in the pre-existing life cycles... again, it seems we can
+> allow the build to proceed
+>
+> Discussion points:
+> * how to handle `mvn test`. If the plugin is only bound to later phases, =
+we
+> are good... but what if the plugin is bound to an early phase? Do we just
+> bomb out and say, sorry you need to invoke at least package? Do we fall
+> back to local repo? Do we upscale the build plan for the plugin to packag=
+e
+> * how to handle `mvn site`... in this case we wouldn=E2=80=99t be produci=
+ng the
+> plugin in the reactor anyway... do we bomb out and say =E2=80=9Cyou must =
+do `mvn
+> package site`=E2=80=9C? Do we modify the build plan? Do we use local repo=
+?
+> * we could be smarter and use the build plan safepoint as a staging point
+> and allow lifecycles and other things... though obviously more work
+> * what about invoking a plugin goal from the CLI directly... do we ask fo=
+r
+> `mvn package foo:manchu`? For this to work, foo:manchu would have to be a=
+n
+> aggregator goal, otherwise it could be an execution request on earlier
+> modules by a later module? Could we delay the build plan instantiation
+> until after the plugin is built? Could we just require the plugin be serv=
+ed
+> from the local repository and revalidate the build plan after the new
+> plugin build is available?
+>
+> I think these are two improvements that could be made *without* changes t=
+o
+> the modelVersion and they would have a real and meaningful improvement fo=
+r
+> our users... as such I would like us to consider (as optional goals) for
+> Maven 4.0.0
+>
+> Wdyt?
+> --
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+From: Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
+Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2017 09:13:32 +0100
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+Subject: Re: Maven 4.0.0
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+Forgot a user wish feature: some progress logging somehow. On "big" project
+(actually on project logging a lot) you are easily lost on the progress,
+you know current module is X but you don't know anymore if it is 50% of the
+build or 5%. Having at least "module X / Y" would be helpful. IMO it is
+enough to log it with the module name:
+
+[INFO]
+------------------------------------------------------------------------
+[INFO] Building Foo 1.0.0-SNAPSHOT
+[INFO]
+------------------------------------------------------------------------
+[INFO] Module 10 / 100
+
+
+
+
+
+Romain Manni-Bucau
+@rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog
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+
+2017-11-05 22:27 GMT+01:00 Bernd Eckenfels <ec...@zusammenkunft.net>:
+
+> Hello,
+>
+>
+>
+> Adding annotations and processor as a compiletime dependency sounds like =
+a
+> reasonable thing. It would however be cool if the JAR could describe whic=
+h
+> package needs to go on the classpath and which is processor impl. (and
+> having a different artifact for runtime)
+>
+>
+>
+> Gruss
+>
+> Bernd
+>
+>
+>
+> *Von: *Mark Derricutt <ma...@talios.com>
+> *Gesendet: *Sonntag, 5. November 2017 22:20
+> *An: *Maven Developers List <de...@maven.apache.org>
+> *Betreff: *Re: Maven 4.0.0
+>
+>
+>
+> On 5 Nov 2017, at 10:42, Robert Scholte wrote:
+>
+> I would like to drop strict scopes in general and give plugins the
+> opportunity to depend on
+> specific scoped dependencies.
+>
+> How would this help with annotations tho? The main issue I'm facing is
+> having a standard m-c-p plugin definition in a parent ( or tile ) but
+> needing different annotation processors used per project. With the curren=
+t
+> plugin, this means either listing them as standard dependencies and have
+> them auto-scanned, and pollute the compilation classpath, or list every
+> possible annotation processor dependency we may use in our projects in th=
+e
+> parent, which is less than ideal.
+>
+> I hope you are aware that modules already end up on the modulepath based
+> on the moduledescriptor(s). So I don't see the need for this scope. (unle=
+ss
+> you have this wish that in the end Maven will create the module descripto=
+r
+> based on this, but I still think we shouldn't do that)
+>
+> I remembered reading something about this, and assumed it was the case if
+> there was a module-info.class, but what if its a standard jar with an
+> Automatic-Module-Name header? Does that fall into the module path or
+> classpath? Having control for this case may be useful.
+>
+> I recognize this wish. The best solution is to make the dependency
+> optional.
+>
+> The problem with this is that the dependency is still on the classpath fo=
+r
+> say surefire, which can influence behaviour.
+>
+> Mark
+>
+> "The ease with which a change can be implemented has no relevance at all
+> to whether it is the right change for the (Java) Platform for all time." =
+=E2=80=94
+> Mark Reinhold.
+>
+> Mark Derricutt
+> http://www.theoryinpractice.net
+> http://www.chaliceofblood.net
+> http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt
+> http://twitter.com/talios
+> http://facebook.com/mderricutt
+>
+>
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+Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2017 08:37:32 +0000
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+On Mon 6 Nov 2017 at 08:13, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
+wrote:
+
+> Forgot a user wish feature: some progress logging somehow. On "big" proje=
+ct
+> (actually on project logging a lot) you are easily lost on the progress,
+> you know current module is X but you don't know anymore if it is 50% of t=
+he
+> build or 5%. Having at least "module X / Y" would be helpful. IMO it is
+> enough to log it with the module name:
+>
+> [INFO]
+> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
+> [INFO] Building Foo 1.0.0-SNAPSHOT
+> [INFO]
+> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
+> [INFO] Module 10 / 100
+>
+
+Can you file a JIRA?
+
+>
+>
+>
+>
+>
+> Romain Manni-Bucau
+> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog
+> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
+> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <
+> https://github.com/rmannibucau> |
+> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau>
+>
+> 2017-11-05 22:27 GMT+01:00 Bernd Eckenfels <ec...@zusammenkunft.net>:
+>
+> > Hello,
+> >
+> >
+> >
+> > Adding annotations and processor as a compiletime dependency sounds lik=
+e
+> a
+> > reasonable thing. It would however be cool if the JAR could describe
+> which
+> > package needs to go on the classpath and which is processor impl. (and
+> > having a different artifact for runtime)
+> >
+> >
+> >
+> > Gruss
+> >
+> > Bernd
+> >
+> >
+> >
+> > *Von: *Mark Derricutt <ma...@talios.com>
+> > *Gesendet: *Sonntag, 5. November 2017 22:20
+> > *An: *Maven Developers List <de...@maven.apache.org>
+> > *Betreff: *Re: Maven 4.0.0
+> >
+> >
+> >
+> > On 5 Nov 2017, at 10:42, Robert Scholte wrote:
+> >
+> > I would like to drop strict scopes in general and give plugins the
+> > opportunity to depend on
+> > specific scoped dependencies.
+> >
+> > How would this help with annotations tho? The main issue I'm facing is
+> > having a standard m-c-p plugin definition in a parent ( or tile ) but
+> > needing different annotation processors used per project. With the
+> current
+> > plugin, this means either listing them as standard dependencies and hav=
+e
+> > them auto-scanned, and pollute the compilation classpath, or list every
+> > possible annotation processor dependency we may use in our projects in
+> the
+> > parent, which is less than ideal.
+> >
+> > I hope you are aware that modules already end up on the modulepath base=
+d
+> > on the moduledescriptor(s). So I don't see the need for this scope.
+> (unless
+> > you have this wish that in the end Maven will create the module
+> descriptor
+> > based on this, but I still think we shouldn't do that)
+> >
+> > I remembered reading something about this, and assumed it was the case =
+if
+> > there was a module-info.class, but what if its a standard jar with an
+> > Automatic-Module-Name header? Does that fall into the module path or
+> > classpath? Having control for this case may be useful.
+> >
+> > I recognize this wish. The best solution is to make the dependency
+> > optional.
+> >
+> > The problem with this is that the dependency is still on the classpath
+> for
+> > say surefire, which can influence behaviour.
+> >
+> > Mark
+> >
+> > "The ease with which a change can be implemented has no relevance at al=
+l
+> > to whether it is the right change for the (Java) Platform for all time.=
+"
+> =E2=80=94
+> > Mark Reinhold.
+> >
+> > Mark Derricutt
+> > http://www.theoryinpractice.net
+> > http://www.chaliceofblood.net
+> > http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt
+> > http://twitter.com/talios
+> > http://facebook.com/mderricutt
+> >
+> >
+> >
+> >
+> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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+Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2017 08:50:32 +0000
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+Subject: Re: Reactor safe/rally points
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+Thinking some more, this might be something we could leverage for
+incremental builds.
+
+If we save state at the end of each phase (last modified time stamps, hash
+of dependencies, etc, also attached artifacts, additional source/resource
+roots etc) then, on subsequent builds, if the state file is present and
+remains valid then we can skip preceding phases and start that module from
+that phase.
+
+In the ideal case that could mean we do nothing with the module as nothing
+changed.
+
+On Sun 5 Nov 2017 at 17:57, Stephen Connolly <
+stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
+
+> There are two sets of problems that, assuming we want to fix, both need
+> some way to rally a concurrent multimodule build at.
+>
+> 1. There is the shade like class of problems, where a plugin wants to
+> modify the effective transitive dependencies of a module.
+>
+> 2. There is the extensibility class of problems, where people want to
+> build a plugin and consume the same plugin in one reactor.
+>
+> Now in both cases, I think we can solve a subset of these problems by
+> introducing a concept of a rally / safe point in the build plan.
+>
+> The mutable model can be solved for reducing scope/ removing
+> dependencies... could possibly also allow adding dependencies, provided t=
+he
+> dependencies are not part of the reactor. The proviso is that the plugin
+> goal would need to be marked as a =E2=80=9Cmutation=E2=80=9D goal, and th=
+e execution of all
+> =E2=80=9Cmutation=E2=80=9D goals for a module defines a safe-point. All d=
+ownstream modules
+> that declare a dependency must be blocked from execution until the
+> safe-point is reached.
+>
+> Discussion points:
+> * how do we handle a build request that will never reach the safe-point,
+> eg `mvn test` will not reach package, and hence will not rub shade...
+> should we say: fine, no safepoint in build plan, so all good... should we
+> say: oops escalate the module with a safe point to `package`?
+> * while technically possible to *add* ex-reactor dependencies (if
+> ex-reactor they cannot affect the build plan) it could be a bad idea for
+> build requests that wouldn=E2=80=99t reach the safepoint, is that reason =
+enough to
+> reject addition?
+>
+> The extensibility issue is actually an important case. Users want feature=
+s
+> like scripting because they need something custom. Scripting brings back
+> imperative builds, which IMHO Maven views as an anti-pattern.
+>
+> So what is the problem people are trying to solve? They want a plugin for
+> just one project. Right now you cannot because we cannot instantiate the
+> full build plan until we can inspect the plugin metadata... but until we
+> build the plugin we cannot get the metadata.
+>
+> With a general plugin, I think there is not much we can do. For example a
+> plugin redefining a lifecycle might actually mean that the build plan wil=
+l
+> be different for modules using that plugin as an extension.
+>
+> But if the plugin is just defining some goals and those goals are just
+> bound to phases in the pre-existing life cycles... again, it seems we can
+> allow the build to proceed
+>
+> Discussion points:
+> * how to handle `mvn test`. If the plugin is only bound to later phases,
+> we are good... but what if the plugin is bound to an early phase? Do we
+> just bomb out and say, sorry you need to invoke at least package? Do we
+> fall back to local repo? Do we upscale the build plan for the plugin to
+> package
+> * how to handle `mvn site`... in this case we wouldn=E2=80=99t be produci=
+ng the
+> plugin in the reactor anyway... do we bomb out and say =E2=80=9Cyou must =
+do `mvn
+> package site`=E2=80=9C? Do we modify the build plan? Do we use local repo=
+?
+> * we could be smarter and use the build plan safepoint as a staging point
+> and allow lifecycles and other things... though obviously more work
+> * what about invoking a plugin goal from the CLI directly... do we ask fo=
+r
+> `mvn package foo:manchu`? For this to work, foo:manchu would have to be a=
+n
+> aggregator goal, otherwise it could be an execution request on earlier
+> modules by a later module? Could we delay the build plan instantiation
+> until after the plugin is built? Could we just require the plugin be serv=
+ed
+> from the local repository and revalidate the build plan after the new
+> plugin build is available?
+>
+> I think these are two improvements that could be made *without* changes t=
+o
+> the modelVersion and they would have a real and meaningful improvement fo=
+r
+> our users... as such I would like us to consider (as optional goals) for
+> Maven 4.0.0
+>
+> Wdyt?
+> --
+> Sent from my phone
+>
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+From: Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
+Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2017 09:51:49 +0100
+Message-ID: <CA...@mail.gmail.com>
+Subject: Re: Maven 4.0.0
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+indeed: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MNG-6302
+
+Romain Manni-Bucau
+@rmannibucau | Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn
+
+
+2017-11-06 9:37 GMT+01:00 Stephen Connolly <stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com=
+>:
+> On Mon 6 Nov 2017 at 08:13, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
+> wrote:
+>
+>> Forgot a user wish feature: some progress logging somehow. On "big" proj=
+ect
+>> (actually on project logging a lot) you are easily lost on the progress,
+>> you know current module is X but you don't know anymore if it is 50% of =
+the
+>> build or 5%. Having at least "module X / Y" would be helpful. IMO it is
+>> enough to log it with the module name:
+>>
+>> [INFO]
+>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
+>> [INFO] Building Foo 1.0.0-SNAPSHOT
+>> [INFO]
+>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
+>> [INFO] Module 10 / 100
+>>
+>
+> Can you file a JIRA?
+>
+>>
+>>
+>>
+>>
+>>
+>> Romain Manni-Bucau
+>> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog
+>> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
+>> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <
+>> https://github.com/rmannibucau> |
+>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau>
+>>
+>> 2017-11-05 22:27 GMT+01:00 Bernd Eckenfels <ec...@zusammenkunft.net>:
+>>
+>> > Hello,
+>> >
+>> >
+>> >
+>> > Adding annotations and processor as a compiletime dependency sounds li=
+ke
+>> a
+>> > reasonable thing. It would however be cool if the JAR could describe
+>> which
+>> > package needs to go on the classpath and which is processor impl. (and
+>> > having a different artifact for runtime)
+>> >
+>> >
+>> >
+>> > Gruss
+>> >
+>> > Bernd
+>> >
+>> >
+>> >
+>> > *Von: *Mark Derricutt <ma...@talios.com>
+>> > *Gesendet: *Sonntag, 5. November 2017 22:20
+>> > *An: *Maven Developers List <de...@maven.apache.org>
+>> > *Betreff: *Re: Maven 4.0.0
+>> >
+>> >
+>> >
+>> > On 5 Nov 2017, at 10:42, Robert Scholte wrote:
+>> >
+>> > I would like to drop strict scopes in general and give plugins the
+>> > opportunity to depend on
+>> > specific scoped dependencies.
+>> >
+>> > How would this help with annotations tho? The main issue I'm facing is
+>> > having a standard m-c-p plugin definition in a parent ( or tile ) but
+>> > needing different annotation processors used per project. With the
+>> current
+>> > plugin, this means either listing them as standard dependencies and ha=
+ve
+>> > them auto-scanned, and pollute the compilation classpath, or list ever=
+y
+>> > possible annotation processor dependency we may use in our projects in
+>> the
+>> > parent, which is less than ideal.
+>> >
+>> > I hope you are aware that modules already end up on the modulepath bas=
+ed
+>> > on the moduledescriptor(s). So I don't see the need for this scope.
+>> (unless
+>> > you have this wish that in the end Maven will create the module
+>> descriptor
+>> > based on this, but I still think we shouldn't do that)
+>> >
+>> > I remembered reading something about this, and assumed it was the case=
+ if
+>> > there was a module-info.class, but what if its a standard jar with an
+>> > Automatic-Module-Name header? Does that fall into the module path or
+>> > classpath? Having control for this case may be useful.
+>> >
+>> > I recognize this wish. The best solution is to make the dependency
+>> > optional.
+>> >
+>> > The problem with this is that the dependency is still on the classpath
+>> for
+>> > say surefire, which can influence behaviour.
+>> >
+>> > Mark
+>> >
+>> > "The ease with which a change can be implemented has no relevance at a=
+ll
+>> > to whether it is the right change for the (Java) Platform for all time=
+."
+>> =E2=80=94
+>> > Mark Reinhold.
+>> >
+>> > Mark Derricutt
+>> > http://www.theoryinpractice.net
+>> > http://www.chaliceofblood.net
+>> > http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt
+>> > http://twitter.com/talios
+>> > http://facebook.com/mderricutt
+>> >
+>> >
+>> >
+>> >
+>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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+>> >
+>>
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+From: Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>
+Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2017 01:00:44 -0800
+Message-ID: <CA...@mail.gmail.com>
+Subject: Re: Maven 4.0.0
+To: Maven Developers List <de...@maven.apache.org>
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+FYI this seems something that doesnt need to wait for 4.0.0
+
+If there was a PR for this and enough other small changes I'd be happy to
+roll a 3.5.3
+
+Do you want to take a stab at it?
+
+(only complexity might be parallel execution, but we could just report the
+linear plan number and when in parallel also log how many have completed)
+
+On 6 November 2017 at 00:51, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
+wrote:
+
+> indeed: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MNG-6302
+>
+> Romain Manni-Bucau
+> @rmannibucau | Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn
+>
+>
+> 2017-11-06 9:37 GMT+01:00 Stephen Connolly <stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.
+> com>:
+> > On Mon 6 Nov 2017 at 08:13, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
+> > wrote:
+> >
+> >> Forgot a user wish feature: some progress logging somehow. On "big"
+> project
+> >> (actually on project logging a lot) you are easily lost on the progres=
+s,
+> >> you know current module is X but you don't know anymore if it is 50% o=
+f
+> the
+> >> build or 5%. Having at least "module X / Y" would be helpful. IMO it i=
+s
+> >> enough to log it with the module name:
+> >>
+> >> [INFO]
+> >> ------------------------------------------------------------
+> ------------
+> >> [INFO] Building Foo 1.0.0-SNAPSHOT
+> >> [INFO]
+> >> ------------------------------------------------------------
+> ------------
+> >> [INFO] Module 10 / 100
+> >>
+> >
+> > Can you file a JIRA?
+> >
+> >>
+> >>
+> >>
+> >>
+> >>
+> >> Romain Manni-Bucau
+> >> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog
+> >> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
+> >> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <
+> >> https://github.com/rmannibucau> |
+> >> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau>
+> >>
+> >> 2017-11-05 22:27 GMT+01:00 Bernd Eckenfels <ec...@zusammenkunft.net>:
+> >>
+> >> > Hello,
+> >> >
+> >> >
+> >> >
+> >> > Adding annotations and processor as a compiletime dependency sounds
+> like
+> >> a
+> >> > reasonable thing. It would however be cool if the JAR could describe
+> >> which
+> >> > package needs to go on the classpath and which is processor impl. (a=
+nd
+> >> > having a different artifact for runtime)
+> >> >
+> >> >
+> >> >
+> >> > Gruss
+> >> >
+> >> > Bernd
+> >> >
+> >> >
+> >> >
+> >> > *Von: *Mark Derricutt <ma...@talios.com>
+> >> > *Gesendet: *Sonntag, 5. November 2017 22:20
+> >> > *An: *Maven Developers List <de...@maven.apache.org>
+> >> > *Betreff: *Re: Maven 4.0.0
+> >> >
+> >> >
+> >> >
+> >> > On 5 Nov 2017, at 10:42, Robert Scholte wrote:
+> >> >
+> >> > I would like to drop strict scopes in general and give plugins the
+> >> > opportunity to depend on
+> >> > specific scoped dependencies.
+> >> >
+> >> > How would this help with annotations tho? The main issue I'm facing =
+is
+> >> > having a standard m-c-p plugin definition in a parent ( or tile ) bu=
+t
+> >> > needing different annotation processors used per project. With the
+> >> current
+> >> > plugin, this means either listing them as standard dependencies and
+> have
+> >> > them auto-scanned, and pollute the compilation classpath, or list
+> every
+> >> > possible annotation processor dependency we may use in our projects =
+in
+> >> the
+> >> > parent, which is less than ideal.
+> >> >
+> >> > I hope you are aware that modules already end up on the modulepath
+> based
+> >> > on the moduledescriptor(s). So I don't see the need for this scope.
+> >> (unless
+> >> > you have this wish that in the end Maven will create the module
+> >> descriptor
+> >> > based on this, but I still think we shouldn't do that)
+> >> >
+> >> > I remembered reading something about this, and assumed it was the
+> case if
+> >> > there was a module-info.class, but what if its a standard jar with a=
+n
+> >> > Automatic-Module-Name header? Does that fall into the module path or
+> >> > classpath? Having control for this case may be useful.
+> >> >
+> >> > I recognize this wish. The best solution is to make the dependency
+> >> > optional.
+> >> >
+> >> > The problem with this is that the dependency is still on the classpa=
+th
+> >> for
+> >> > say surefire, which can influence behaviour.
+> >> >
+> >> > Mark
+> >> >
+> >> > "The ease with which a change can be implemented has no relevance at
+> all
+> >> > to whether it is the right change for the (Java) Platform for all
+> time."
+> >> =E2=80=94
+> >> > Mark Reinhold.
+> >> >
+> >> > Mark Derricutt
+> >> > http://www.theoryinpractice.net
+> >> > http://www.chaliceofblood.net
+> >> > http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt
+> >> > http://twitter.com/talios
+> >> > http://facebook.com/mderricutt
+> >> >
+> >> >
+> >> >
+> >> >
+> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------=
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+Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2017 11:16:20 +0100
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+Subject: Re: Maven 4.0.0
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+Can't tackle it before next year but if not done in january sure.
+
+
+2017-11-06 10:00 GMT+01:00 Stephen Connolly <stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.co=
+m>:
+> FYI this seems something that doesnt need to wait for 4.0.0
+>
+> If there was a PR for this and enough other small changes I'd be happy to
+> roll a 3.5.3
+>
+> Do you want to take a stab at it?
+>
+> (only complexity might be parallel execution, but we could just report th=
+e
+> linear plan number and when in parallel also log how many have completed)
+>
+> On 6 November 2017 at 00:51, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
+> wrote:
+>
+>> indeed: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MNG-6302
+>>
+>> Romain Manni-Bucau
+>> @rmannibucau | Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn
+>>
+>>
+>> 2017-11-06 9:37 GMT+01:00 Stephen Connolly <stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.
+>> com>:
+>> > On Mon 6 Nov 2017 at 08:13, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
+>> > wrote:
+>> >
+>> >> Forgot a user wish feature: some progress logging somehow. On "big"
+>> project
+>> >> (actually on project logging a lot) you are easily lost on the progre=
+ss,
+>> >> you know current module is X but you don't know anymore if it is 50% =
+of
+>> the
+>> >> build or 5%. Having at least "module X / Y" would be helpful. IMO it =
+is
+>> >> enough to log it with the module name:
+>> >>
+>> >> [INFO]
+>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------
+>> ------------
+>> >> [INFO] Building Foo 1.0.0-SNAPSHOT
+>> >> [INFO]
+>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------
+>> ------------
+>> >> [INFO] Module 10 / 100
+>> >>
+>> >
+>> > Can you file a JIRA?
+>> >
+>> >>
+>> >>
+>> >>
+>> >>
+>> >>
+>> >> Romain Manni-Bucau
+>> >> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog
+>> >> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
+>> >> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <
+>> >> https://github.com/rmannibucau> |
+>> >> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau>
+>> >>
+>> >> 2017-11-05 22:27 GMT+01:00 Bernd Eckenfels <ec...@zusammenkunft.net>:
+>> >>
+>> >> > Hello,
+>> >> >
+>> >> >
+>> >> >
+>> >> > Adding annotations and processor as a compiletime dependency sounds
+>> like
+>> >> a
+>> >> > reasonable thing. It would however be cool if the JAR could describ=
+e
+>> >> which
+>> >> > package needs to go on the classpath and which is processor impl. (=
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