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Posted to dev@wicket.apache.org by Eelco Hillenius <ee...@gmail.com> on 2007/02/07 05:45:44 UTC

shutting down wicket-stuff lists?

Hi,

How do you feel about shutting down the wicket-stuff lists
(wicket-stuff-develop@lists.sourceforge.net,
wicket-stuff-user-request@lists.sourceforge.net)? I think traffic is
too low to really justify having separate lists, and traffic likely
will be of interest to subscribers of the core lists as well. If we
just shut them down, it'll be less confusing to people.

Eelco

Re: shutting down wicket-stuff lists?

Posted by Eelco Hillenius <ee...@gmail.com>.
> This would mean that we rollback the list part of that decision.

Yep. Sorry about that. I just noticed that there was an unanswered
question lingering around for days; obviously because hardly anyone of
the wicket-stuff people actually is subscribed. Furthermore, I think
that even though it is technically a separate domain, most questions
that should be directed there are actually of interest to most people
@wicket lists.

> I don't mind as the traffic on those list is /really/ minimal.

Minimal and for just a couple of subscribers :)

Eelco

Re: shutting down wicket-stuff lists?

Posted by Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>.
Hmm,

I think we resolved at the start of incubation that sf.net things for
wicket-stuff such as lists, issue trackers and wiki's should remain
outside ASF.

This would mean that we rollback the list part of that decision. I
don't mind as the traffic on those list is /really/ minimal.

Martijn


On 2/7/07, Eelco Hillenius <ee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > but for coordinating work I think we
> > would need more back and forth than an rss feed could provide. I'm
> > cool with it either way, though.
>
> For that we can keep using this list and the user list. There's
> usually an overlap between all those projects and the core project
> anyway.
>
> Eelco
>


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Re: shutting down wicket-stuff lists?

Posted by Vincent Demay <vi...@anyware-tech.com>.
+1

Eelco Hillenius a écrit :
> On 2/7/07, James McLaughlin <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Agreed. +1
>>
>> I only brought this up becuase some of us have been reluctant to
>> create noise on the mailing lists, to the degree that we have
>> contacted each other off list.
>
> If you can get there, ##wicket on freenode.net is a great way to
> reduce noise on the lists while still keeping more people involved.
> But for anything like making a decision and discussing things that
> could be good to have some history on, please *do* use these lists;
> it's what they are for! :)
>
> Eelco


Re: shutting down wicket-stuff lists?

Posted by Eelco Hillenius <ee...@gmail.com>.
On 2/7/07, James McLaughlin <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Agreed. +1
>
> I only brought this up becuase some of us have been reluctant to
> create noise on the mailing lists, to the degree that we have
> contacted each other off list.

If you can get there, ##wicket on freenode.net is a great way to
reduce noise on the lists while still keeping more people involved.
But for anything like making a decision and discussing things that
could be good to have some history on, please *do* use these lists;
it's what they are for! :)

Eelco

Re: shutting down wicket-stuff lists?

Posted by Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>.
I'd rather have that traffic on the user/dev lists where everybody listens :)

Martijn

On 2/7/07, James McLaughlin <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Agreed. +1
>
> I only brought this up becuase some of us have been reluctant to
> create noise on the mailing lists, to the degree that we have
> contacted each other off list.
>
> jim
>
> On 2/7/07, Eelco Hillenius <ee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > but for coordinating work I think we
> > > would need more back and forth than an rss feed could provide. I'm
> > > cool with it either way, though.
> >
> > For that we can keep using this list and the user list. There's
> > usually an overlap between all those projects and the core project
> > anyway.
> >
> > Eelco
> >
>


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Re: shutting down wicket-stuff lists?

Posted by James McLaughlin <jo...@gmail.com>.
Agreed. +1

I only brought this up becuase some of us have been reluctant to
create noise on the mailing lists, to the degree that we have
contacted each other off list.

jim

On 2/7/07, Eelco Hillenius <ee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > but for coordinating work I think we
> > would need more back and forth than an rss feed could provide. I'm
> > cool with it either way, though.
>
> For that we can keep using this list and the user list. There's
> usually an overlap between all those projects and the core project
> anyway.
>
> Eelco
>

Re: shutting down wicket-stuff lists?

Posted by Eelco Hillenius <ee...@gmail.com>.
> but for coordinating work I think we
> would need more back and forth than an rss feed could provide. I'm
> cool with it either way, though.

For that we can keep using this list and the user list. There's
usually an overlap between all those projects and the core project
anyway.

Eelco

Re: shutting down wicket-stuff lists?

Posted by James McLaughlin <jo...@gmail.com>.
No doubt that would be great for making announcements regarding
project releases and what not, but for coordinating work I think we
would need more back and forth than an rss feed could provide. I'm
cool with it either way, though.


On 2/7/07, Al Maw <wi...@almaw.com> wrote:
> James McLaughlin wrote:
>  > It might be worthwhile to keep wicket-stuff-develop so that when it
>  > comes time to coordinate a release or encourage
>  > wicket-stuff-developers to make some changes (like mavenizing their
>  > projects) we won't pollute wicket-user. But for this to work, we would
>  > need to make sure all the project maintainers are subscribed to it.
>  > I'm ashamed to say, i don't think that I am.
>
> I think we should use the news section of our shiny new confluence and
> encourage people to subscribe to the RSS feed instead, but that's just me.
>
> Al
>

Re: shutting down wicket-stuff lists?

Posted by Al Maw <wi...@almaw.com>.
James McLaughlin wrote:
 > It might be worthwhile to keep wicket-stuff-develop so that when it
 > comes time to coordinate a release or encourage
 > wicket-stuff-developers to make some changes (like mavenizing their
 > projects) we won't pollute wicket-user. But for this to work, we would
 > need to make sure all the project maintainers are subscribed to it.
 > I'm ashamed to say, i don't think that I am.

I think we should use the news section of our shiny new confluence and 
encourage people to subscribe to the RSS feed instead, but that's just me.

Al

Re: shutting down wicket-stuff lists?

Posted by James McLaughlin <jo...@gmail.com>.
It might be worthwhile to keep wicket-stuff-develop so that when it
comes time to coordinate a release or encourage
wicket-stuff-developers to make some changes (like mavenizing their
projects) we won't pollute wicket-user. But for this to work, we would
need to make sure all the project maintainers are subscribed to it.
I'm ashamed to say, i don't think that I am.

jim

On 2/7/07, Al Maw <wi...@almaw.com> wrote:
> Eelco Hillenius wrote:
> > How do you feel about shutting down the wicket-stuff lists
> > (wicket-stuff-develop@lists.sourceforge.net,
> > wicket-stuff-user-request@lists.sourceforge.net)? I think traffic is
> > too low to really justify having separate lists, and traffic likely
> > will be of interest to subscribers of the core lists as well. If we
> > just shut them down, it'll be less confusing to people.
>
> I'm +1 on this. Slightly embarrassingly, I didn't even know they
> existed. :-)
>
> Al
>

Re: shutting down wicket-stuff lists?

Posted by Al Maw <wi...@almaw.com>.
Eelco Hillenius wrote:
> How do you feel about shutting down the wicket-stuff lists
> (wicket-stuff-develop@lists.sourceforge.net,
> wicket-stuff-user-request@lists.sourceforge.net)? I think traffic is
> too low to really justify having separate lists, and traffic likely
> will be of interest to subscribers of the core lists as well. If we
> just shut them down, it'll be less confusing to people.

I'm +1 on this. Slightly embarrassingly, I didn't even know they 
existed. :-)

Al

Re: shutting down wicket-stuff lists?

Posted by Eelco Hillenius <ee...@gmail.com>.
And you're in the top 3 of committers for wicket-stuff! :)

Eelco


On 2/7/07, Jean-Baptiste Quenot <jb...@apache.org> wrote:
> * Eelco Hillenius:
> >
> > How do you feel about shutting down the wicket-stuff lists
> > (wicket-stuff-develop@lists.sourceforge.net,
> > wicket-stuff-user-request@lists.sourceforge.net)?
>
> +1
>
> Didn't event know they existed
> --
>      Jean-Baptiste Quenot
> aka  John Banana   Qwerty
> http://caraldi.com/jbq/
>

Re: shutting down wicket-stuff lists?

Posted by Jean-Baptiste Quenot <jb...@apache.org>.
* Eelco Hillenius:
> 
> How do you feel about shutting down the wicket-stuff lists
> (wicket-stuff-develop@lists.sourceforge.net,
> wicket-stuff-user-request@lists.sourceforge.net)?

+1

Didn't event know they existed
-- 
     Jean-Baptiste Quenot
aka  John Banana   Qwerty
http://caraldi.com/jbq/