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Posted to dev@tamaya.apache.org by "Oliver B. Fischer" <o....@swe-blog.net> on 2016/06/17 11:14:22 UTC
Display of the Apache Tamaya banner
Hi guys,
I startet using Tamaya in a little small tool we use at work. There are
two things I would like to discuss with you:
1. The banner of Apache Tamaya is always shown at startup. This is nice
and at the same time disturbing. Maybe this should be configurable?
2. If I am not mistaken the default behaviour is to load all properties
from /META-INF/javaconfiguration.properties. As I have many properties I
would like to spread them over multiple property files. But I think we
don't support his at the moment. Is this correct? If no, would it be a
reasonable extension for us?
WDYT?
Bye,
Oliver
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Re: Display of the Apache Tamaya banner
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
Just read the ticket, I like the approach. One question though, if you
output to JUL, how will you ensure lines are preserved?
Would it also make sense if the resource name were configurable?
John
On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:39 PM Oliver B. Fischer <o....@swe-blog.net>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAMAYA-164 for
> this. Please comment on it if you disagree with me. Otherwise I would
> like to implement the suggested solution in the next days.
>
> WDYT?
>
>
> Oliver
>
> Am 17.06.16 um 13:14 schrieb Oliver B. Fischer:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I startet using Tamaya in a little small tool we use at work. There
> > are two things I would like to discuss with you:
> >
> > 1. The banner of Apache Tamaya is always shown at startup. This is
> > nice and at the same time disturbing. Maybe this should be configurable?
> >
> > 2. If I am not mistaken the default behaviour is to load all
> > properties from /META-INF/javaconfiguration.properties. As I have many
> > properties I would like to spread them over multiple property files.
> > But I think we don't support his at the moment. Is this correct? If
> > no, would it be a reasonable extension for us?
> >
> > WDYT?
> >
> > Bye,
> >
> >
> > Oliver
> >
>
> --
> N Oliver B. Fischer
> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
> P +49 30 44793251
> M +49 178 7903538
> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
> S oliver.b.fischer
> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
> X http://xing.to/obf
>
>
Re: Display of the Apache Tamaya banner
Posted by "Oliver B. Fischer" <o....@swe-blog.net>.
Hi,
I just created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAMAYA-164 for
this. Please comment on it if you disagree with me. Otherwise I would
like to implement the suggested solution in the next days.
WDYT?
Oliver
Am 17.06.16 um 13:14 schrieb Oliver B. Fischer:
> Hi guys,
>
> I startet using Tamaya in a little small tool we use at work. There
> are two things I would like to discuss with you:
>
> 1. The banner of Apache Tamaya is always shown at startup. This is
> nice and at the same time disturbing. Maybe this should be configurable?
>
> 2. If I am not mistaken the default behaviour is to load all
> properties from /META-INF/javaconfiguration.properties. As I have many
> properties I would like to spread them over multiple property files.
> But I think we don't support his at the moment. Is this correct? If
> no, would it be a reasonable extension for us?
>
> WDYT?
>
> Bye,
>
>
> Oliver
>
--
N Oliver B. Fischer
A Sch�nhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
P +49 30 44793251
M +49 178 7903538
E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
S oliver.b.fischer
J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
X http://xing.to/obf
Re: Display of the Apache Tamaya banner
Posted by "Oliver B. Fischer" <o....@swe-blog.net>.
I have only one archive ;-( and I would like to have as many
configuration files as I want without writing an additional line of code.
Am 17.06.16 um 19:12 schrieb Anatole Tresch:
> Hi
> Afaik you cab have as many property files as archives. In case of conflict
> you can add tamaya.ordinal entries...
> J Anatole
> Am 17.06.2016 1:14 PM schrieb "Oliver B. Fischer" <o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
>> :
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I startet using Tamaya in a little small tool we use at work. There are
>> two things I would like to discuss with you:
>>
>> 1. The banner of Apache Tamaya is always shown at startup. This is nice
>> and at the same time disturbing. Maybe this should be configurable?
>>
>> 2. If I am not mistaken the default behaviour is to load all properties
>> from /META-INF/javaconfiguration.properties. As I have many properties I
>> would like to spread them over multiple property files. But I think we
>> don't support his at the moment. Is this correct? If no, would it be a
>> reasonable extension for us?
>>
>> WDYT?
>>
>> Bye,
>>
>>
>> Oliver
>>
>> --
>> N Oliver B. Fischer
>> A Sch�nhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
>> P +49 30 44793251
>> M +49 178 7903538
>> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
>> S oliver.b.fischer
>> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
>> X http://xing.to/obf
>>
>>
--
N Oliver B. Fischer
A Sch�nhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
P +49 30 44793251
M +49 178 7903538
E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
S oliver.b.fischer
J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
X http://xing.to/obf
Re: Display of the Apache Tamaya banner
Posted by Anatole Tresch <at...@gmail.com>.
Hi
Afaik you cab have as many property files as archives. In case of conflict
you can add tamaya.ordinal entries...
J Anatole
Am 17.06.2016 1:14 PM schrieb "Oliver B. Fischer" <o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
>:
> Hi guys,
>
> I startet using Tamaya in a little small tool we use at work. There are
> two things I would like to discuss with you:
>
> 1. The banner of Apache Tamaya is always shown at startup. This is nice
> and at the same time disturbing. Maybe this should be configurable?
>
> 2. If I am not mistaken the default behaviour is to load all properties
> from /META-INF/javaconfiguration.properties. As I have many properties I
> would like to spread them over multiple property files. But I think we
> don't support his at the moment. Is this correct? If no, would it be a
> reasonable extension for us?
>
> WDYT?
>
> Bye,
>
>
> Oliver
>
> --
> N Oliver B. Fischer
> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
> P +49 30 44793251
> M +49 178 7903538
> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
> S oliver.b.fischer
> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
> X http://xing.to/obf
>
>
Re: Display of the Apache Tamaya banner
Posted by "Oliver B. Fischer" <o....@swe-blog.net>.
I will raise an issue for this topic in Jira. Currently it is a blocker
for me since I wan't integrate Tamaya in jQAssistant because of that. It
would be annonying to have the Tamaya banner in the console output.
Bye,
Oliver
Am 18.06.16 um 12:52 schrieb Oliver B. Fischer:
> Even for a server component I would like to have only a single line.
> Many companies have a fixed log format and such messages can be
> annoying.
>
>
> Oliver
>
>
>
> Am 17.06.16 um 13:23 schrieb John D. Ament:
>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 7:14 AM Oliver B. Fischer
>> <o....@swe-blog.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I agree. It makes sense for the server component, to know that its
>> there,
>> but for a client library, its a bit in-your-face.
>>
>>
>> I use
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-tamaya/blob/master/code/core/src/main/java/org/apache/tamaya/core/propertysource/SimplePropertySource.java
>>
>> to
>> register custom property files.
>>
>>
>
--
N Oliver B. Fischer
A Sch�nhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
P +49 30 44793251
M +49 178 7903538
E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
S oliver.b.fischer
J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
X http://xing.to/obf
Re: Display of the Apache Tamaya banner
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
Apologies, when I referred to server component, I was referring to Tamaya
Server, not an arbitrary server application that uses Tamaya.
John
On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 6:52 AM Oliver B. Fischer <o....@swe-blog.net>
wrote:
> Even for a server component I would like to have only a single line.
> Many companies have a fixed log format and such messages can be annoying.
>
>
> Oliver
>
>
>
> Am 17.06.16 um 13:23 schrieb John D. Ament:
> > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 7:14 AM Oliver B. Fischer <
> o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi guys,
> >>
> >> I startet using Tamaya in a little small tool we use at work. There are
> >> two things I would like to discuss with you:
> >>
> >> 1. The banner of Apache Tamaya is always shown at startup. This is nice
> >> and at the same time disturbing. Maybe this should be configurable?
> >>
> > I agree. It makes sense for the server component, to know that its
> there,
> > but for a client library, its a bit in-your-face.
> >
> >
> >> 2. If I am not mistaken the default behaviour is to load all properties
> >> from /META-INF/javaconfiguration.properties. As I have many properties I
> >> would like to spread them over multiple property files. But I think we
> >> don't support his at the moment. Is this correct? If no, would it be a
> >> reasonable extension for us?
> >>
> > I use
> >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-tamaya/blob/master/code/core/src/main/java/org/apache/tamaya/core/propertysource/SimplePropertySource.java
> > to
> > register custom property files.
> >
> >
> >> WDYT?
> >>
> >> Bye,
> >>
> >>
> >> Oliver
> >>
> >> --
> >> N Oliver B. Fischer
> >> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
> >> P +49 30 44793251
> >> M +49 178 7903538
> >> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
> >> S oliver.b.fischer
> >> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
> >> X http://xing.to/obf
> >>
> >>
>
> --
> N Oliver B. Fischer
> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
> P +49 30 44793251
> M +49 178 7903538
> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
> S oliver.b.fischer
> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
> X http://xing.to/obf
>
>
Re: Display of the Apache Tamaya banner
Posted by "Oliver B. Fischer" <o....@swe-blog.net>.
Even for a server component I would like to have only a single line.
Many companies have a fixed log format and such messages can be annoying.
Oliver
Am 17.06.16 um 13:23 schrieb John D. Ament:
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 7:14 AM Oliver B. Fischer <o....@swe-blog.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I startet using Tamaya in a little small tool we use at work. There are
>> two things I would like to discuss with you:
>>
>> 1. The banner of Apache Tamaya is always shown at startup. This is nice
>> and at the same time disturbing. Maybe this should be configurable?
>>
> I agree. It makes sense for the server component, to know that its there,
> but for a client library, its a bit in-your-face.
>
>
>> 2. If I am not mistaken the default behaviour is to load all properties
>> from /META-INF/javaconfiguration.properties. As I have many properties I
>> would like to spread them over multiple property files. But I think we
>> don't support his at the moment. Is this correct? If no, would it be a
>> reasonable extension for us?
>>
> I use
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-tamaya/blob/master/code/core/src/main/java/org/apache/tamaya/core/propertysource/SimplePropertySource.java
> to
> register custom property files.
>
>
>> WDYT?
>>
>> Bye,
>>
>>
>> Oliver
>>
>> --
>> N Oliver B. Fischer
>> A Sch�nhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
>> P +49 30 44793251
>> M +49 178 7903538
>> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
>> S oliver.b.fischer
>> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
>> X http://xing.to/obf
>>
>>
--
N Oliver B. Fischer
A Sch�nhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
P +49 30 44793251
M +49 178 7903538
E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
S oliver.b.fischer
J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
X http://xing.to/obf
Re: Display of the Apache Tamaya banner
Posted by Werner Keil <we...@gmail.com>.
How does it work in an app that may have its own splash screen?
I know if you develop plugins or components for Eclipse or other IDEs this
can show used technologies, but how about standalone apps, will Tamaya show
up like a "nag screen" there?;-)
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Eclipse UOMo Lead, Babel Language Champion | Apache Committer
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On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 1:23 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 7:14 AM Oliver B. Fischer <
> o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I startet using Tamaya in a little small tool we use at work. There are
> > two things I would like to discuss with you:
> >
> > 1. The banner of Apache Tamaya is always shown at startup. This is nice
> > and at the same time disturbing. Maybe this should be configurable?
> >
>
> I agree. It makes sense for the server component, to know that its there,
> but for a client library, its a bit in-your-face.
>
>
> >
> > 2. If I am not mistaken the default behaviour is to load all properties
> > from /META-INF/javaconfiguration.properties. As I have many properties I
> > would like to spread them over multiple property files. But I think we
> > don't support his at the moment. Is this correct? If no, would it be a
> > reasonable extension for us?
> >
>
> I use
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-tamaya/blob/master/code/core/src/main/java/org/apache/tamaya/core/propertysource/SimplePropertySource.java
> to
> register custom property files.
>
>
> >
> > WDYT?
> >
> > Bye,
> >
> >
> > Oliver
> >
> > --
> > N Oliver B. Fischer
> > A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
> > P +49 30 44793251
> > M +49 178 7903538
> > E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
> > S oliver.b.fischer
> > J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
> > X http://xing.to/obf
> >
> >
>
Re: Display of the Apache Tamaya banner
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 7:14 AM Oliver B. Fischer <o....@swe-blog.net>
wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I startet using Tamaya in a little small tool we use at work. There are
> two things I would like to discuss with you:
>
> 1. The banner of Apache Tamaya is always shown at startup. This is nice
> and at the same time disturbing. Maybe this should be configurable?
>
I agree. It makes sense for the server component, to know that its there,
but for a client library, its a bit in-your-face.
>
> 2. If I am not mistaken the default behaviour is to load all properties
> from /META-INF/javaconfiguration.properties. As I have many properties I
> would like to spread them over multiple property files. But I think we
> don't support his at the moment. Is this correct? If no, would it be a
> reasonable extension for us?
>
I use
https://github.com/apache/incubator-tamaya/blob/master/code/core/src/main/java/org/apache/tamaya/core/propertysource/SimplePropertySource.java
to
register custom property files.
>
> WDYT?
>
> Bye,
>
>
> Oliver
>
> --
> N Oliver B. Fischer
> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
> P +49 30 44793251
> M +49 178 7903538
> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
> S oliver.b.fischer
> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
> X http://xing.to/obf
>
>