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Posted to users@tapestry.apache.org by Geoff Longman <gl...@intelligentworks.com> on 2003/08/07 13:51:12 UTC
Tapestry Elevator pitch
Hi all,
several times in the last week I have been asked to give the lowdown on
Tapestry in 30 seconds or less.
I have to admit that I didn't do a good job, there's just so many cool
features!
Maybe we could come up with standard pitches for techies and non-techies.
Geoff
Geoffrey Longman
Intelligent Works Inc.
Re: Tapestry Elevator pitch
Posted by Geoff Longman <gl...@intelligentworks.com>.
That's pretty good. My pitch went awry cuz the person I was talking
to was tech-aware but not in the web dev space.
Something like (I was put on the spot and don't recall exactly what I said)
- Tapestry is a framework for developing web applications. (duh)
- True component model and real reuse
- Framework is designed from the get go for
---- I10N (not an afterthought)
---- Scalability/Clustering
---- Higher developer/designer productivity
- Tapestry apps have less java code and that code is clearly separate from
templates
That's all I recall.
Geoff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tobias Frech" <to...@frech.info>
To: "Tapestry users" <ta...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: Tapestry Elevator pitch
> My try:
>
> *doors close*
>
> "Tapestry is taking web interface development to the object-orientation
> level, like the step from procedural to object-oriented languages.
> Web interfaces in Tapestry are composed of objects which themself
> clearly separate the areas of responsibility for the HTML-Designer and
> the Java-Developer."
>
> Some more bla bla about i18n, reuse, increased productivity and better
> maintainability should be added as well.
>
> *doors open*
>
> Probably this qualifies for the "techie" pitch
>
> Ciao,
> Tobias
>
> Geoff Longman wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > several times in the last week I have been asked to give the lowdown on
> > Tapestry in 30 seconds or less.
> >
> > I have to admit that I didn't do a good job, there's just so many cool
> > features!
> >
> > Maybe we could come up with standard pitches for techies and
non-techies.
> >
> > Geoff
> >
> > Geoffrey Longman
> > Intelligent Works Inc.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Tapestry Elevator pitch
Posted by Tobias Frech <to...@frech.info>.
My try:
*doors close*
"Tapestry is taking web interface development to the object-orientation
level, like the step from procedural to object-oriented languages.
Web interfaces in Tapestry are composed of objects which themself
clearly separate the areas of responsibility for the HTML-Designer and
the Java-Developer."
Some more bla bla about i18n, reuse, increased productivity and better
maintainability should be added as well.
*doors open*
Probably this qualifies for the "techie" pitch
Ciao,
Tobias
Geoff Longman wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> several times in the last week I have been asked to give the lowdown on
> Tapestry in 30 seconds or less.
>
> I have to admit that I didn't do a good job, there's just so many cool
> features!
>
> Maybe we could come up with standard pitches for techies and non-techies.
>
> Geoff
>
> Geoffrey Longman
> Intelligent Works Inc.
>
>
>
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Re: Tapestry Elevator pitch
Posted by Geoff Longman <gl...@intelligentworks.com>.
Howard's pitch:
http://javatapestry.blogspot.com
Geoff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Geoff Longman" <gl...@intelligentworks.com>
To: "Tapestry users" <ta...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 7:51 AM
Subject: Tapestry Elevator pitch
> Hi all,
>
> several times in the last week I have been asked to give the lowdown on
> Tapestry in 30 seconds or less.
>
> I have to admit that I didn't do a good job, there's just so many cool
> features!
>
> Maybe we could come up with standard pitches for techies and non-techies.
>
> Geoff
>
> Geoffrey Longman
> Intelligent Works Inc.
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: tapestry-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
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>
Re: Tapestry Elevator pitch
Posted by Mo Welch <mw...@ontarioeast.net>.
Hi,
Perhaps a note on the distribution website about the state of affairs re:
tapestry documentation would be a reasonable start. As a newbie, I was quite
dissappointed when I tried to start my education of Tapestry by using the
Tutorial. I realize there is a warning about the "out-of-date" status; but,
I could not find the referred to src/examples-src.jar, or the
lib/tutorial.war file to at least experiment with what is in the tutorial at
present (in the Tapestry-3.0-beta-2-bin download). Is there some other source
I could use while this is being fixed?
Geoff Longman wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> several times in the last week I have been asked to give the lowdown on
> Tapestry in 30 seconds or less.
>
> I have to admit that I didn't do a good job, there's just so many cool
> features!
>
> Maybe we could come up with standard pitches for techies and non-techies.
>
> Geoff
>
> Geoffrey Longman
> Intelligent Works Inc.
>
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> To unsubscribe, e-mail: tapestry-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
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Re: [EXAMPLE] Where is it?
Posted by Pae Choi <pa...@earthlink.net>.
Howard,
Thanks for the reply as well as sharing the progress. Any comment
on the other issue in building from the source? Thanks again.
Regards,
Pae
----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@comcast.net>
To: "'Tapestry development'" <ta...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:02 PM
Subject: RE: [EXAMPLE] Where is it?
Documentation is a bit in transition right now. There's example code and
new docs on the way Real
Soon Now. More importantly, there is a book due out in the fall on Tapestry
(written by me).
People are rightfully impatient for the updated docs but so far, noone but
me has contributed to the
reference documentation (except for AWOL Neil) and my time is limited.
--
Howard M. Lewis Ship
Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pae Choi [mailto:paechoi@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 8:57 PM
> To: tapestry-dev@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [EXAMPLE] Where is it?
>
>
> Since I didn't get any response from the users group, I am
> posting to dev. group.
>
> Any commnets?
>
>
> Pae
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pae Choi" <pa...@earthlink.net>
> To: "Tapestry users" <ta...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 5:09 PM
> Subject: [EXAMPLE] Where is it?
>
>
> > I just downloaded Tapestry v3.0b2 both source and binary
> distribution
> > to get the taste of it. While I was reading the Doc.,
> "Chapter 3 Hello
> > World", it stated as follows:
> >
> > "The code for this section of the tutorial is in the Java package
> > tutorial.hello, i.e.,
> > C:\Tapestry-x.x.x\examples\Tutorial\src\tutorial\hello."
> >
> > But I do not see the "Tutorial" folder under "exampels".
> Subsequently,
> > no "hello" fodler. Am I missing something here?
> >
> > Also, I tried to build it from its source but it throws a bunch of
> > servlet related exceptions starting with one as follows:
> >
> > IEngine.java:61: package javax.servlet does not exist
> > import javax.servlet.ServletException;
> > ...
> >
> >
> > I did configured two symbols, "j2ee.jar.path" and
> "servlet.jar.path",
> > in the build.properties which is under the "config" folder.
> >
> > Any comments?
> >
> >
> > Pae
> >
> >
> >
> >
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RE: [EXAMPLE] Where is it?
Posted by "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@comcast.net>.
Documentation is a bit in transition right now. There's example code and new docs on the way Real
Soon Now. More importantly, there is a book due out in the fall on Tapestry (written by me).
People are rightfully impatient for the updated docs but so far, noone but me has contributed to the
reference documentation (except for AWOL Neil) and my time is limited.
--
Howard M. Lewis Ship
Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pae Choi [mailto:paechoi@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 8:57 PM
> To: tapestry-dev@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [EXAMPLE] Where is it?
>
>
> Since I didn't get any response from the users group, I am
> posting to dev. group.
>
> Any commnets?
>
>
> Pae
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pae Choi" <pa...@earthlink.net>
> To: "Tapestry users" <ta...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 5:09 PM
> Subject: [EXAMPLE] Where is it?
>
>
> > I just downloaded Tapestry v3.0b2 both source and binary
> distribution
> > to get the taste of it. While I was reading the Doc.,
> "Chapter 3 Hello
> > World", it stated as follows:
> >
> > "The code for this section of the tutorial is in the Java package
> > tutorial.hello, i.e.,
> > C:\Tapestry-x.x.x\examples\Tutorial\src\tutorial\hello."
> >
> > But I do not see the "Tutorial" folder under "exampels".
> Subsequently,
> > no "hello" fodler. Am I missing something here?
> >
> > Also, I tried to build it from its source but it throws a bunch of
> > servlet related exceptions starting with one as follows:
> >
> > IEngine.java:61: package javax.servlet does not exist
> > import javax.servlet.ServletException;
> > ...
> >
> >
> > I did configured two symbols, "j2ee.jar.path" and
> "servlet.jar.path",
> > in the build.properties which is under the "config" folder.
> >
> > Any comments?
> >
> >
> > Pae
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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Re: [EXAMPLE] Where is it?
Posted by Pae Choi <pa...@earthlink.net>.
Since I didn't get any response from the users group, I am
posting to dev. group.
Any commnets?
Pae
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pae Choi" <pa...@earthlink.net>
To: "Tapestry users" <ta...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 5:09 PM
Subject: [EXAMPLE] Where is it?
> I just downloaded Tapestry v3.0b2 both source and binary
> distribution to get the taste of it. While I was reading the
> Doc., "Chapter 3 Hello World", it stated as follows:
>
> "The code for this section of the tutorial is in the Java package
> tutorial.hello, i.e.,
> C:\Tapestry-x.x.x\examples\Tutorial\src\tutorial\hello."
>
> But I do not see the "Tutorial" folder under "exampels". Subsequently,
> no "hello" fodler. Am I missing something here?
>
> Also, I tried to build it from its source but it throws a bunch
> of servlet related exceptions starting with one as follows:
>
> IEngine.java:61: package javax.servlet does not exist
> import javax.servlet.ServletException;
> ...
>
>
> I did configured two symbols, "j2ee.jar.path" and "servlet.jar.path",
> in the build.properties which is under the "config" folder.
>
> Any comments?
>
>
> Pae
>
>
>
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[EXAMPLE] Where is it?
Posted by Pae Choi <pa...@earthlink.net>.
I just downloaded Tapestry v3.0b2 both source and binary
distribution to get the taste of it. While I was reading the
Doc., "Chapter 3 Hello World", it stated as follows:
"The code for this section of the tutorial is in the Java package
tutorial.hello, i.e.,
C:\Tapestry-x.x.x\examples\Tutorial\src\tutorial\hello."
But I do not see the "Tutorial" folder under "exampels". Subsequently,
no "hello" fodler. Am I missing something here?
Also, I tried to build it from its source but it throws a bunch
of servlet related exceptions starting with one as follows:
IEngine.java:61: package javax.servlet does not exist
import javax.servlet.ServletException;
...
I did configured two symbols, "j2ee.jar.path" and "servlet.jar.path",
in the build.properties which is under the "config" folder.
Any comments?
Pae
RE: Tapestry Elevator pitch
Posted by "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@comcast.net>.
I just came up with one: see http://javatapestry.blogspot.com
--
Howard M. Lewis Ship
Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geoff Longman [mailto:glongman@intelligentworks.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 7:51 AM
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: Tapestry Elevator pitch
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> several times in the last week I have been asked to give the
> lowdown on Tapestry in 30 seconds or less.
>
> I have to admit that I didn't do a good job, there's just so
> many cool features!
>
> Maybe we could come up with standard pitches for techies and
> non-techies.
>
> Geoff
>
> Geoffrey Longman
> Intelligent Works Inc.
>
>
>
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