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Re: svn commit: r1336368 - /incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext

Same problem here - what are you using to cause BOM?



On May 9, 2012, at 12:42 PM, r4zoli@apache.org wrote:

> Author: r4zoli
> Date: Wed May  9 19:42:28 2012
> New Revision: 1336368
> 
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1336368&view=rev
> Log: (empty)
> 
> Modified:
>    incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext
> 
> Modified: incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext?rev=1336368&r1=1336367&r2=1336368&view=diff
> ==============================================================================
> --- incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext (original)
> +++ incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext Wed May  9 19:42:28 2012
> @@ -1,10 +1,10 @@
> -home:		home
> -search:		keresés
> +home:		home
> +search:		keresés
> name: 		Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
> -tagline: 	(incubating) | Nyílt és ingyenes irodai programcsomag
> +tagline: 	(incubating) | Nyílt és ingyenes irodai programcsomag
> logo: 		AOO_logos/OOo_Website_v2_copy.png
> domain:		www.openoffice.org
> divid:		bannera
> announce:	Megjelent az Apache OpenOffice 3.4
> announceurl:	/hu/aoo34.html
> -announcetip:	Olvassa el a bejelentést
> +announcetip:	Olvassa el a bejelentést
> \ No newline at end of file
> 
> 


Re: svn commit: r1336368 - /incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext

Posted by "Juan C. Sanz" <ju...@hotmail.com>.
El 10/05/2012 7:42, Reizinger Zoltán escribió:
> 2012.05.09. 23:02 keltezéssel, Dave Fisher írta:
>> On May 9, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Reizinger Zoltán wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not programmer and try to change Hungarian site.
>>> What is the BOM?
>>>
>>> In this environment hard to me to do any useful work changing the 
>>> Hungarian site to useful format.
>>> I will stop doing it.
>> I'd like to understand how that bad character was added. You weren't 
>> the only one with the same problem and you won't be the last.
>>
>> What do you use to edit the mdtext files?
> I used win7 notepad first(it was coded as ASCII, which is wrong if I 
> need to use accented characters, but I not was aware to this).
I used win7 notepad  too (with the default options) to modify another 
mdtext file and there were some problems too
> In second case in Notepad ++ when I converted from ASCII coding to 
> UTF-8, and I think it was correctly coded, possibly I needs to be 
> aware to another settings, which I don't know.
> Zoltan
>>
>>> But how can I proceed to do it?
>> I've fixed these two files for you. It looks good at 
>> www.openoffice.org/hu/. You can proceed.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Zoltan
>>>
>>> 2012.05.09. 21:49 keltezéssel, Dave Fisher írta:
>>>> Same problem here - what are you using to cause BOM?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 9, 2012, at 12:42 PM, r4zoli@apache.org wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Author: r4zoli
>>>>> Date: Wed May  9 19:42:28 2012
>>>>> New Revision: 1336368
>>>>>
>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1336368&view=rev
>>>>> Log: (empty)
>>>>>
>>>>> Modified:
>>>>>     incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext
>>>>>
>>>>> Modified: incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext
>>>>> URL: 
>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext?rev=1336368&r1=1336367&r2=1336368&view=diff
>>>>> ============================================================================== 
>>>>>
>>>>> --- incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext (original)
>>>>> +++ incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext Wed May  
>>>>> 9 19:42:28 2012
>>>>> @@ -1,10 +1,10 @@
>>>>> -home:        home
>>>>> -search:        keresés
>>>>> +home:        home
>>>>> +search:        keresés
>>>>> name:         Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
>>>>> -tagline:     (incubating) | Nyílt és ingyenes irodai programcsomag
>>>>> +tagline:     (incubating) | Nyílt és ingyenes irodai programcsomag
>>>>> logo:         AOO_logos/OOo_Website_v2_copy.png
>>>>> domain:        www.openoffice.org
>>>>> divid:        bannera
>>>>> announce:    Megjelent az Apache OpenOffice 3.4
>>>>> announceurl:    /hu/aoo34.html
>>>>> -announcetip:    Olvassa el a bejelentést
>>>>> +announcetip:    Olvassa el a bejelentést
>>>>> \ No newline at end of file
>>>>>
>>>>>
Regards
Juan C.

Re: svn commit: r1336368 - /incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 10 May 2012 19:52, Juan C. Sanz <ju...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> El 10/05/2012 20:36, Dave Fisher escribió:
>
>> On May 10, 2012, at 11:15 AM, sebb wrote:
>>
>>> On 10 May 2012 07:17, Dennis E. Hamilton<de...@acm.org>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 1. You can Save as UTF8 in Windows Notepad.
>>>>
>>>> 2. The BOM (Byte-Order-Mark) is a special two-byte prefix that is
>>>> usually used with UTF16 to determine whether the two bytes of each 16-bit
>>>> code are big-endian or little-endian.  Some products (including Windows
>>>> Notepad) also put a BOM on the front of UTF8 streams.  Some software is
>>>> hostile to it being there, other software accepts it and recognizes the
>>>> following code as UTF8 anyhow. You ran into a hostile case.
>>>>
>>>> Since you don't see the BOM (it is on front of the file but is not
>>>> treated as a character), and you are on Windows, you need a text editor that
>>>> doesn't produce them and also discards any that it encounters.
>>>>
>>>> I recommend an HTML editor.  If you prefer text raw editing, I think
>>>> jEdit will work for.  It is a Java application, available on SourceForge.
>>>>  The Windows version of gedit will also save text in UTF8.  That probably
>>>> doesn't produce a BOM.  (It is difficult to know if one is there or not
>>>> without looking at the beginning of the file in a hex editor/viewer.)
>>>
>>> My copy of Notepad++ (v5.9) has the following Encoding Menu options:

That's Notepad++, not Windows Notepad.

>>>
>>> Encode in ANSI
>>> Encode in UTF-8 without BOM
>>> Encode in UTF-8
>>> ...
>>> Convert to ANSI
>>> Convert to UTF-8 without BOM
>>> Convert to UTF-8
>>> ...
>>
>> Thanks! I've added a note to
>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/website-local.html
>
> In the note you say "If you use Notepad on WIndows you have several options
> for saving or converting to UTF. Choose the "UTF-8 without BOM" option" but
> this is not an option in notepad (at least in mine) but in Notepad++ which
> is not the windows one.

Agreed, I was referring to the 3rd party Notepad++ app (which had
already been mentioned).

> Regards
> Juan C.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>

Re: svn commit: r1336368 - /incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext

Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On May 10, 2012, at 11:52 AM, Juan C. Sanz wrote:

> El 10/05/2012 20:36, Dave Fisher escribió:
>> On May 10, 2012, at 11:15 AM, sebb wrote:
>> 
>>> On 10 May 2012 07:17, Dennis E. Hamilton<de...@acm.org>  wrote:
>>>> 1. You can Save as UTF8 in Windows Notepad.
>>>> 
>>>> 2. The BOM (Byte-Order-Mark) is a special two-byte prefix that is usually used with UTF16 to determine whether the two bytes of each 16-bit code are big-endian or little-endian.  Some products (including Windows Notepad) also put a BOM on the front of UTF8 streams.  Some software is hostile to it being there, other software accepts it and recognizes the following code as UTF8 anyhow. You ran into a hostile case.
>>>> 
>>>> Since you don't see the BOM (it is on front of the file but is not treated as a character), and you are on Windows, you need a text editor that doesn't produce them and also discards any that it encounters.
>>>> 
>>>> I recommend an HTML editor.  If you prefer text raw editing, I think jEdit will work for.  It is a Java application, available on SourceForge.  The Windows version of gedit will also save text in UTF8.  That probably doesn't produce a BOM.  (It is difficult to know if one is there or not without looking at the beginning of the file in a hex editor/viewer.)
>>> My copy of Notepad++ (v5.9) has the following Encoding Menu options:
>>> 
>>> Encode in ANSI
>>> Encode in UTF-8 without BOM
>>> Encode in UTF-8
>>> ...
>>> Convert to ANSI
>>> Convert to UTF-8 without BOM
>>> Convert to UTF-8
>>> ...
>> Thanks! I've added a note to http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/website-local.html
> In the note you say "If you use Notepad on WIndows you have several options for saving or converting to UTF. Choose the "UTF-8 without BOM" option" but this is not an option in notepad (at least in mine) but in Notepad++ which is not the windows one.

Oops, I misread. Let's think about this a bit Notepad is dangerous, but inevitable.

There is a perl routine: read_text_file in https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/cms/build/lib/ASF/Util.pm

# utility for parsing txt files with headers in them                                                                                                 
# and passing the args along to a hashref (in 2nd arg)                                                                                               

sub read_text_file {

If that can be taught to handle the BOM then we won't care.

(I'm removing my note.)

Regards,
Dave


> Regards
> Juan C.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
> 


Re: svn commit: r1336368 - /incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext

Posted by "Juan C. Sanz" <ju...@hotmail.com>.
El 10/05/2012 20:36, Dave Fisher escribió:
> On May 10, 2012, at 11:15 AM, sebb wrote:
>
>> On 10 May 2012 07:17, Dennis E. Hamilton<de...@acm.org>  wrote:
>>> 1. You can Save as UTF8 in Windows Notepad.
>>>
>>> 2. The BOM (Byte-Order-Mark) is a special two-byte prefix that is usually used with UTF16 to determine whether the two bytes of each 16-bit code are big-endian or little-endian.  Some products (including Windows Notepad) also put a BOM on the front of UTF8 streams.  Some software is hostile to it being there, other software accepts it and recognizes the following code as UTF8 anyhow. You ran into a hostile case.
>>>
>>> Since you don't see the BOM (it is on front of the file but is not treated as a character), and you are on Windows, you need a text editor that doesn't produce them and also discards any that it encounters.
>>>
>>> I recommend an HTML editor.  If you prefer text raw editing, I think jEdit will work for.  It is a Java application, available on SourceForge.  The Windows version of gedit will also save text in UTF8.  That probably doesn't produce a BOM.  (It is difficult to know if one is there or not without looking at the beginning of the file in a hex editor/viewer.)
>> My copy of Notepad++ (v5.9) has the following Encoding Menu options:
>>
>> Encode in ANSI
>> Encode in UTF-8 without BOM
>> Encode in UTF-8
>> ...
>> Convert to ANSI
>> Convert to UTF-8 without BOM
>> Convert to UTF-8
>> ...
> Thanks! I've added a note to http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/website-local.html
In the note you say "If you use Notepad on WIndows you have several 
options for saving or converting to UTF. Choose the "UTF-8 without BOM" 
option" but this is not an option in notepad (at least in mine) but in 
Notepad++ which is not the windows one.
Regards
Juan C.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>


Re: svn commit: r1336368 - /incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext

Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On May 10, 2012, at 11:15 AM, sebb wrote:

> On 10 May 2012 07:17, Dennis E. Hamilton <de...@acm.org> wrote:
>> 1. You can Save as UTF8 in Windows Notepad.
>> 
>> 2. The BOM (Byte-Order-Mark) is a special two-byte prefix that is usually used with UTF16 to determine whether the two bytes of each 16-bit code are big-endian or little-endian.  Some products (including Windows Notepad) also put a BOM on the front of UTF8 streams.  Some software is hostile to it being there, other software accepts it and recognizes the following code as UTF8 anyhow. You ran into a hostile case.
>> 
>> Since you don't see the BOM (it is on front of the file but is not treated as a character), and you are on Windows, you need a text editor that doesn't produce them and also discards any that it encounters.
>> 
>> I recommend an HTML editor.  If you prefer text raw editing, I think jEdit will work for.  It is a Java application, available on SourceForge.  The Windows version of gedit will also save text in UTF8.  That probably doesn't produce a BOM.  (It is difficult to know if one is there or not without looking at the beginning of the file in a hex editor/viewer.)
> 
> My copy of Notepad++ (v5.9) has the following Encoding Menu options:
> 
> Encode in ANSI
> Encode in UTF-8 without BOM
> Encode in UTF-8
> ...
> Convert to ANSI
> Convert to UTF-8 without BOM
> Convert to UTF-8
> ...

Thanks! I've added a note to http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/website-local.html

Regards,
Dave
> 
> 
>>  - Dennis
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Reizinger Zoltán [mailto:zreizinger@hdsnet.hu]
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 22:42
>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: svn commit: r1336368 - /incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext
>> 
>> 2012.05.09. 23:02 keltezéssel, Dave Fisher írta:
>>> On May 9, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Reizinger Zoltán wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I'm not programmer and try to change Hungarian site.
>>>> What is the BOM?
>>>> 
>>>> In this environment hard to me to do any useful work changing the Hungarian site to useful format.
>>>> I will stop doing it.
>>> I'd like to understand how that bad character was added. You weren't the only one with the same problem and you won't be the last.
>>> 
>>> What do you use to edit the mdtext files?
>> I used win7 notepad first(it was coded as ASCII, which is wrong if I
>> need to use accented characters, but I not was aware to this).
>> In second case in Notepad ++ when I converted from ASCII coding to
>> UTF-8, and I think it was correctly coded, possibly I needs to be aware
>> to another settings, which I don't know.
>> Zoltan
>>> 
>>>> But how can I proceed to do it?
>>> I've fixed these two files for you. It looks good at www.openoffice.org/hu/. You can proceed.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Zoltan
>>>> 
>>>> 2012.05.09. 21:49 keltezéssel, Dave Fisher írta:
>>>>> Same problem here - what are you using to cause BOM?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On May 9, 2012, at 12:42 PM, r4zoli@apache.org wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Author: r4zoli
>>>>>> Date: Wed May  9 19:42:28 2012
>>>>>> New Revision: 1336368
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1336368&view=rev
>>>>>> Log: (empty)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Modified:
>>>>>>     incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Modified: incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext
>>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext?rev=1336368&r1=1336367&r2=1336368&view=diff
>>>>>> ==============================================================================
>>>>>> --- incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext (original)
>>>>>> +++ incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext Wed May  9 19:42:28 2012
>>>>>> @@ -1,10 +1,10 @@
>>>>>> -home:             home
>>>>>> -search:           keresés
>>>>>> +home:          home
>>>>>> +search:           keresés
>>>>>> name:              Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
>>>>>> -tagline:  (incubating) | Nyílt és ingyenes irodai programcsomag
>>>>>> +tagline:  (incubating) | Nyílt és ingyenes irodai programcsomag
>>>>>> logo:              AOO_logos/OOo_Website_v2_copy.png
>>>>>> domain:            www.openoffice.org
>>>>>> divid:             bannera
>>>>>> announce:  Megjelent az Apache OpenOffice 3.4
>>>>>> announceurl:       /hu/aoo34.html
>>>>>> -announcetip:      Olvassa el a bejelentést
>>>>>> +announcetip:      Olvassa el a bejelentést
>>>>>> \ No newline at end of file
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>> 
>> 


Re: svn commit: r1336368 - /incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 10 May 2012 07:17, Dennis E. Hamilton <de...@acm.org> wrote:
> 1. You can Save as UTF8 in Windows Notepad.
>
> 2. The BOM (Byte-Order-Mark) is a special two-byte prefix that is usually used with UTF16 to determine whether the two bytes of each 16-bit code are big-endian or little-endian.  Some products (including Windows Notepad) also put a BOM on the front of UTF8 streams.  Some software is hostile to it being there, other software accepts it and recognizes the following code as UTF8 anyhow. You ran into a hostile case.
>
> Since you don't see the BOM (it is on front of the file but is not treated as a character), and you are on Windows, you need a text editor that doesn't produce them and also discards any that it encounters.
>
> I recommend an HTML editor.  If you prefer text raw editing, I think jEdit will work for.  It is a Java application, available on SourceForge.  The Windows version of gedit will also save text in UTF8.  That probably doesn't produce a BOM.  (It is difficult to know if one is there or not without looking at the beginning of the file in a hex editor/viewer.)

My copy of Notepad++ (v5.9) has the following Encoding Menu options:

Encode in ANSI
Encode in UTF-8 without BOM
Encode in UTF-8
...
Convert to ANSI
Convert to UTF-8 without BOM
Convert to UTF-8
...


>  - Dennis
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Reizinger Zoltán [mailto:zreizinger@hdsnet.hu]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 22:42
> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: svn commit: r1336368 - /incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext
>
> 2012.05.09. 23:02 keltezéssel, Dave Fisher írta:
>> On May 9, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Reizinger Zoltán wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not programmer and try to change Hungarian site.
>>> What is the BOM?
>>>
>>> In this environment hard to me to do any useful work changing the Hungarian site to useful format.
>>> I will stop doing it.
>> I'd like to understand how that bad character was added. You weren't the only one with the same problem and you won't be the last.
>>
>> What do you use to edit the mdtext files?
> I used win7 notepad first(it was coded as ASCII, which is wrong if I
> need to use accented characters, but I not was aware to this).
> In second case in Notepad ++ when I converted from ASCII coding to
> UTF-8, and I think it was correctly coded, possibly I needs to be aware
> to another settings, which I don't know.
> Zoltan
>>
>>> But how can I proceed to do it?
>> I've fixed these two files for you. It looks good at www.openoffice.org/hu/. You can proceed.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Zoltan
>>>
>>> 2012.05.09. 21:49 keltezéssel, Dave Fisher írta:
>>>> Same problem here - what are you using to cause BOM?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 9, 2012, at 12:42 PM, r4zoli@apache.org wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Author: r4zoli
>>>>> Date: Wed May  9 19:42:28 2012
>>>>> New Revision: 1336368
>>>>>
>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1336368&view=rev
>>>>> Log: (empty)
>>>>>
>>>>> Modified:
>>>>>     incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext
>>>>>
>>>>> Modified: incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext
>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext?rev=1336368&r1=1336367&r2=1336368&view=diff
>>>>> ==============================================================================
>>>>> --- incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext (original)
>>>>> +++ incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext Wed May  9 19:42:28 2012
>>>>> @@ -1,10 +1,10 @@
>>>>> -home:             home
>>>>> -search:           keresés
>>>>> +home:          home
>>>>> +search:           keresés
>>>>> name:              Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
>>>>> -tagline:  (incubating) | Nyílt és ingyenes irodai programcsomag
>>>>> +tagline:  (incubating) | Nyílt és ingyenes irodai programcsomag
>>>>> logo:              AOO_logos/OOo_Website_v2_copy.png
>>>>> domain:            www.openoffice.org
>>>>> divid:             bannera
>>>>> announce:  Megjelent az Apache OpenOffice 3.4
>>>>> announceurl:       /hu/aoo34.html
>>>>> -announcetip:      Olvassa el a bejelentést
>>>>> +announcetip:      Olvassa el a bejelentést
>>>>> \ No newline at end of file
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>

RE: svn commit: r1336368 - /incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext

Posted by "Dennis E. Hamilton" <de...@acm.org>.
1. You can Save as UTF8 in Windows Notepad.

2. The BOM (Byte-Order-Mark) is a special two-byte prefix that is usually used with UTF16 to determine whether the two bytes of each 16-bit code are big-endian or little-endian.  Some products (including Windows Notepad) also put a BOM on the front of UTF8 streams.  Some software is hostile to it being there, other software accepts it and recognizes the following code as UTF8 anyhow. You ran into a hostile case.

Since you don't see the BOM (it is on front of the file but is not treated as a character), and you are on Windows, you need a text editor that doesn't produce them and also discards any that it encounters.

I recommend an HTML editor.  If you prefer text raw editing, I think jEdit will work for.  It is a Java application, available on SourceForge.  The Windows version of gedit will also save text in UTF8.  That probably doesn't produce a BOM.  (It is difficult to know if one is there or not without looking at the beginning of the file in a hex editor/viewer.)

 - Dennis



-----Original Message-----
From: Reizinger Zoltán [mailto:zreizinger@hdsnet.hu] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 22:42
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: svn commit: r1336368 - /incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext

2012.05.09. 23:02 keltezéssel, Dave Fisher írta:
> On May 9, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Reizinger Zoltán wrote:
>
>> I'm not programmer and try to change Hungarian site.
>> What is the BOM?
>>
>> In this environment hard to me to do any useful work changing the Hungarian site to useful format.
>> I will stop doing it.
> I'd like to understand how that bad character was added. You weren't the only one with the same problem and you won't be the last.
>
> What do you use to edit the mdtext files?
I used win7 notepad first(it was coded as ASCII, which is wrong if I 
need to use accented characters, but I not was aware to this).
In second case in Notepad ++ when I converted from ASCII coding to 
UTF-8, and I think it was correctly coded, possibly I needs to be aware 
to another settings, which I don't know.
Zoltan
>
>> But how can I proceed to do it?
> I've fixed these two files for you. It looks good at www.openoffice.org/hu/. You can proceed.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>> Thanks,
>> Zoltan
>>
>> 2012.05.09. 21:49 keltezéssel, Dave Fisher írta:
>>> Same problem here - what are you using to cause BOM?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 9, 2012, at 12:42 PM, r4zoli@apache.org wrote:
>>>
>>>> Author: r4zoli
>>>> Date: Wed May  9 19:42:28 2012
>>>> New Revision: 1336368
>>>>
>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1336368&view=rev
>>>> Log: (empty)
>>>>
>>>> Modified:
>>>>     incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext
>>>>
>>>> Modified: incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext
>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext?rev=1336368&r1=1336367&r2=1336368&view=diff
>>>> ==============================================================================
>>>> --- incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext (original)
>>>> +++ incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext Wed May  9 19:42:28 2012
>>>> @@ -1,10 +1,10 @@
>>>> -home:		home
>>>> -search:		keresés
>>>> +home:		home
>>>> +search:		keresés
>>>> name: 		Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
>>>> -tagline: 	(incubating) | Nyílt és ingyenes irodai programcsomag
>>>> +tagline: 	(incubating) | Nyílt és ingyenes irodai programcsomag
>>>> logo: 		AOO_logos/OOo_Website_v2_copy.png
>>>> domain:		www.openoffice.org
>>>> divid:		bannera
>>>> announce:	Megjelent az Apache OpenOffice 3.4
>>>> announceurl:	/hu/aoo34.html
>>>> -announcetip:	Olvassa el a bejelentést
>>>> +announcetip:	Olvassa el a bejelentést
>>>> \ No newline at end of file
>>>>
>>>>
>


Re: svn commit: r1336368 - /incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext

Posted by Reizinger Zoltán <zr...@hdsnet.hu>.
2012.05.11. 22:17 keltezéssel, Dave Fisher írta:
> On May 9, 2012, at 10:42 PM, Reizinger Zoltán wrote:
>
>> 2012.05.09. 23:02 keltezéssel, Dave Fisher írta:
>>> On May 9, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Reizinger Zoltán wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm not programmer and try to change Hungarian site.
>>>> What is the BOM?
>>>>
>>>> In this environment hard to me to do any useful work changing the Hungarian site to useful format.
>>>> I will stop doing it.
>>> I'd like to understand how that bad character was added. You weren't the only one with the same problem and you won't be the last.
>>>
>>> What do you use to edit the mdtext files?
>> I used win7 notepad first(it was coded as ASCII, which is wrong if I need to use accented characters, but I not was aware to this).
>> In second case in Notepad ++ when I converted from ASCII coding to UTF-8, and I think it was correctly coded, possibly I needs to be aware to another settings, which I don't know.
> It no longer matters, Joe has modified the Apache CMS to accept a BOM at the beginning of these files.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
Thanks for your effort.
Zoltan
>
>> Zoltan
>>>> But how can I proceed to do it?
>>> I've fixed these two files for you. It looks good at www.openoffice.org/hu/. You can proceed.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Zoltan
>>>>
>>>> 2012.05.09. 21:49 keltezéssel, Dave Fisher írta:
>>>>> Same problem here - what are you using to cause BOM?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 9, 2012, at 12:42 PM, r4zoli@apache.org wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Author: r4zoli
>>>>>> Date: Wed May  9 19:42:28 2012
>>>>>> New Revision: 1336368
>>>>>>
>>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1336368&view=rev
>>>>>> Log: (empty)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Modified:
>>>>>>     incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Modified: incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext
>>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext?rev=1336368&r1=1336367&r2=1336368&view=diff
>>>>>> ==============================================================================
>>>>>> --- incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext (original)
>>>>>> +++ incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext Wed May  9 19:42:28 2012
>>>>>> @@ -1,10 +1,10 @@
>>>>>> -home:		home
>>>>>> -search:		keresés
>>>>>> +home:		home
>>>>>> +search:		keresés
>>>>>> name: 		Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
>>>>>> -tagline: 	(incubating) | Nyílt és ingyenes irodai programcsomag
>>>>>> +tagline: 	(incubating) | Nyílt és ingyenes irodai programcsomag
>>>>>> logo: 		AOO_logos/OOo_Website_v2_copy.png
>>>>>> domain:		www.openoffice.org
>>>>>> divid:		bannera
>>>>>> announce:	Megjelent az Apache OpenOffice 3.4
>>>>>> announceurl:	/hu/aoo34.html
>>>>>> -announcetip:	Olvassa el a bejelentést
>>>>>> +announcetip:	Olvassa el a bejelentést
>>>>>> \ No newline at end of file
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>


Re: svn commit: r1336368 - /incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext

Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On May 9, 2012, at 10:42 PM, Reizinger Zoltán wrote:

> 2012.05.09. 23:02 keltezéssel, Dave Fisher írta:
>> On May 9, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Reizinger Zoltán wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm not programmer and try to change Hungarian site.
>>> What is the BOM?
>>> 
>>> In this environment hard to me to do any useful work changing the Hungarian site to useful format.
>>> I will stop doing it.
>> I'd like to understand how that bad character was added. You weren't the only one with the same problem and you won't be the last.
>> 
>> What do you use to edit the mdtext files?
> I used win7 notepad first(it was coded as ASCII, which is wrong if I need to use accented characters, but I not was aware to this).
> In second case in Notepad ++ when I converted from ASCII coding to UTF-8, and I think it was correctly coded, possibly I needs to be aware to another settings, which I don't know.

It no longer matters, Joe has modified the Apache CMS to accept a BOM at the beginning of these files.

Regards,
Dave


> Zoltan
>> 
>>> But how can I proceed to do it?
>> I've fixed these two files for you. It looks good at www.openoffice.org/hu/. You can proceed.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Zoltan
>>> 
>>> 2012.05.09. 21:49 keltezéssel, Dave Fisher írta:
>>>> Same problem here - what are you using to cause BOM?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On May 9, 2012, at 12:42 PM, r4zoli@apache.org wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Author: r4zoli
>>>>> Date: Wed May  9 19:42:28 2012
>>>>> New Revision: 1336368
>>>>> 
>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1336368&view=rev
>>>>> Log: (empty)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Modified:
>>>>>    incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext
>>>>> 
>>>>> Modified: incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext
>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext?rev=1336368&r1=1336367&r2=1336368&view=diff
>>>>> ==============================================================================
>>>>> --- incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext (original)
>>>>> +++ incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext Wed May  9 19:42:28 2012
>>>>> @@ -1,10 +1,10 @@
>>>>> -home:		home
>>>>> -search:		keresés
>>>>> +home:		home
>>>>> +search:		keresés
>>>>> name: 		Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
>>>>> -tagline: 	(incubating) | Nyílt és ingyenes irodai programcsomag
>>>>> +tagline: 	(incubating) | Nyílt és ingyenes irodai programcsomag
>>>>> logo: 		AOO_logos/OOo_Website_v2_copy.png
>>>>> domain:		www.openoffice.org
>>>>> divid:		bannera
>>>>> announce:	Megjelent az Apache OpenOffice 3.4
>>>>> announceurl:	/hu/aoo34.html
>>>>> -announcetip:	Olvassa el a bejelentést
>>>>> +announcetip:	Olvassa el a bejelentést
>>>>> \ No newline at end of file
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>> 
> 


Re: svn commit: r1336368 - /incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext

Posted by Reizinger Zoltán <zr...@hdsnet.hu>.
2012.05.09. 23:02 keltezéssel, Dave Fisher írta:
> On May 9, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Reizinger Zoltán wrote:
>
>> I'm not programmer and try to change Hungarian site.
>> What is the BOM?
>>
>> In this environment hard to me to do any useful work changing the Hungarian site to useful format.
>> I will stop doing it.
> I'd like to understand how that bad character was added. You weren't the only one with the same problem and you won't be the last.
>
> What do you use to edit the mdtext files?
I used win7 notepad first(it was coded as ASCII, which is wrong if I 
need to use accented characters, but I not was aware to this).
In second case in Notepad ++ when I converted from ASCII coding to 
UTF-8, and I think it was correctly coded, possibly I needs to be aware 
to another settings, which I don't know.
Zoltan
>
>> But how can I proceed to do it?
> I've fixed these two files for you. It looks good at www.openoffice.org/hu/. You can proceed.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>> Thanks,
>> Zoltan
>>
>> 2012.05.09. 21:49 keltezéssel, Dave Fisher írta:
>>> Same problem here - what are you using to cause BOM?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 9, 2012, at 12:42 PM, r4zoli@apache.org wrote:
>>>
>>>> Author: r4zoli
>>>> Date: Wed May  9 19:42:28 2012
>>>> New Revision: 1336368
>>>>
>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1336368&view=rev
>>>> Log: (empty)
>>>>
>>>> Modified:
>>>>     incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext
>>>>
>>>> Modified: incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext
>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext?rev=1336368&r1=1336367&r2=1336368&view=diff
>>>> ==============================================================================
>>>> --- incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext (original)
>>>> +++ incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext Wed May  9 19:42:28 2012
>>>> @@ -1,10 +1,10 @@
>>>> -home:		home
>>>> -search:		keresés
>>>> +home:		home
>>>> +search:		keresés
>>>> name: 		Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
>>>> -tagline: 	(incubating) | Nyílt és ingyenes irodai programcsomag
>>>> +tagline: 	(incubating) | Nyílt és ingyenes irodai programcsomag
>>>> logo: 		AOO_logos/OOo_Website_v2_copy.png
>>>> domain:		www.openoffice.org
>>>> divid:		bannera
>>>> announce:	Megjelent az Apache OpenOffice 3.4
>>>> announceurl:	/hu/aoo34.html
>>>> -announcetip:	Olvassa el a bejelentést
>>>> +announcetip:	Olvassa el a bejelentést
>>>> \ No newline at end of file
>>>>
>>>>
>


Re: svn commit: r1336368 - /incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext

Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On May 9, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Reizinger Zoltán wrote:

> I'm not programmer and try to change Hungarian site.
> What is the BOM?
> 
> In this environment hard to me to do any useful work changing the Hungarian site to useful format.
> I will stop doing it.

I'd like to understand how that bad character was added. You weren't the only one with the same problem and you won't be the last.

What do you use to edit the mdtext files?

> But how can I proceed to do it?

I've fixed these two files for you. It looks good at www.openoffice.org/hu/. You can proceed.

Regards,
Dave

> 
> Thanks,
> Zoltan
> 
> 2012.05.09. 21:49 keltezéssel, Dave Fisher írta:
>> Same problem here - what are you using to cause BOM?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 9, 2012, at 12:42 PM, r4zoli@apache.org wrote:
>> 
>>> Author: r4zoli
>>> Date: Wed May  9 19:42:28 2012
>>> New Revision: 1336368
>>> 
>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1336368&view=rev
>>> Log: (empty)
>>> 
>>> Modified:
>>>    incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext
>>> 
>>> Modified: incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext
>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext?rev=1336368&r1=1336367&r2=1336368&view=diff
>>> ==============================================================================
>>> --- incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext (original)
>>> +++ incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext Wed May  9 19:42:28 2012
>>> @@ -1,10 +1,10 @@
>>> -home:		home
>>> -search:		keresés
>>> +home:		home
>>> +search:		keresés
>>> name: 		Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
>>> -tagline: 	(incubating) | Nyílt és ingyenes irodai programcsomag
>>> +tagline: 	(incubating) | Nyílt és ingyenes irodai programcsomag
>>> logo: 		AOO_logos/OOo_Website_v2_copy.png
>>> domain:		www.openoffice.org
>>> divid:		bannera
>>> announce:	Megjelent az Apache OpenOffice 3.4
>>> announceurl:	/hu/aoo34.html
>>> -announcetip:	Olvassa el a bejelentést
>>> +announcetip:	Olvassa el a bejelentést
>>> \ No newline at end of file
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 


Re: svn commit: r1336368 - /incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext

Posted by Reizinger Zoltán <zr...@hdsnet.hu>.
I'm not programmer and try to change Hungarian site.
What is the BOM?

In this environment hard to me to do any useful work changing the 
Hungarian site to useful format.
I will stop doing it.

But how can I proceed to do it?

Thanks,
Zoltan

2012.05.09. 21:49 keltezéssel, Dave Fisher írta:
> Same problem here - what are you using to cause BOM?
>
>
>
> On May 9, 2012, at 12:42 PM, r4zoli@apache.org wrote:
>
>> Author: r4zoli
>> Date: Wed May  9 19:42:28 2012
>> New Revision: 1336368
>>
>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1336368&view=rev
>> Log: (empty)
>>
>> Modified:
>>     incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext
>>
>> Modified: incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext
>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext?rev=1336368&r1=1336367&r2=1336368&view=diff
>> ==============================================================================
>> --- incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext (original)
>> +++ incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext Wed May  9 19:42:28 2012
>> @@ -1,10 +1,10 @@
>> -home:		home
>> -search:		keresés
>> +home:		home
>> +search:		keresés
>> name: 		Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
>> -tagline: 	(incubating) | Nyílt és ingyenes irodai programcsomag
>> +tagline: 	(incubating) | Nyílt és ingyenes irodai programcsomag
>> logo: 		AOO_logos/OOo_Website_v2_copy.png
>> domain:		www.openoffice.org
>> divid:		bannera
>> announce:	Megjelent az Apache OpenOffice 3.4
>> announceurl:	/hu/aoo34.html
>> -announcetip:	Olvassa el a bejelentést
>> +announcetip:	Olvassa el a bejelentést
>> \ No newline at end of file
>>
>>
>