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Posted to dev@trafodion.apache.org by Gunnar Tapper <ta...@gmail.com> on 2015/11/18 04:34:41 UTC
Which contributor list is accurate?
Hi,
I find THREE places where contributors are recorded:
1. Master pom.xml
2. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
3. http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html
Which one is the most accurate?
--
Thanks,
Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
Posted by Roberta Marton <ro...@esgyn.com>.
The third list is correct. I just updated it Monday with all the changes.
Roberta
On Nov 17, 2015 7:34 PM, "Gunnar Tapper" <ta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I find THREE places where contributors are recorded:
>
> 1. Master pom.xml
> 2. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> 3. http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html
>
> Which one is the most accurate?
>
> --
> Thanks,
>
> Gunnar
> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>
Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
Posted by Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>.
That is a good idea. No need to maintain information in multiple places. It
only adds to the confusion.
As for the contributors lists (either with or without role references), we
now need to maintain the following:
1. Incubator project page:
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html
2. Wiki page:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
3. Website (via pom):
http://trafodion.incubator.apache.org/team-list.html
And later on, after graduation, there will be a other overview
1. http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html
2. https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/committee/
The separation as shown on the website and managed through pom is nice, but
we have to keep in mind that all participants in this project are
contributors. It just happens to be so that some have privileges (at
different levels).
The projects I am involved in do it differently:
1. The Directory project has static pages (cms style), which are
maintained in a separate repository:
http://directory.apache.org/team.html
2. The OFBiz project maintains their lists in wiki pages,
1.
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBADMIN/Apache+OFBiz+PMC+Members+and+Committers
2.
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Apache+OFBiz+Contributors
This project will have to decide what we will have as our leading source.
And communicate this clearly to all involved parties, so that confusion
(also regarding its maintenance) and maintenance is as minimal as possible.
Best regards,
Pierre Smits
*OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Gunnar Tapper <ta...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Then, I'll simply link to the project page from the website for the
> contributor information.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gunnar
>
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Dave Birdsall <da...@esgyn.com>
> wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > I will join the love fest also.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roberta Marton [mailto:roberta.marton@esgyn.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:17 PM
> > To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: Which contributor list is accurate?
> >
> > +1
> >
> > Me too
> >
> > Roberta
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Venkat Muthuswamy [mailto:venkat.muthuswamy@esgyn.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:13 PM
> > To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: Which contributor list is accurate?
> >
> > +1
> >
> > I like this. This way we can extend and maintain the list.
> >
> > Venkat
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pierre Smits [mailto:pierre.smits@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:05 PM
> > To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
> >
> > I believe that would be a smart idea.
> >
> > +1
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Pierre Smits
> >
> > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 12:01 AM, Hans Zeller <ha...@esgyn.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Having three copies of the same thing is not good (even worse if the
> > > three copies are not kept in sync by Trafodion transactions).
> > >
> > > The fact that the pom.xml *can *track developers doesn't mean that we
> > > *have *to use that, or does anyone know of such a requirement?
> > >
> > > I would suggest we put a generic developer name into the pom.xml file
> > > with a link to a web page:
> > >
> > > <developers>
> > > <developer>
> > > <id>TrafodionDeveloper</id>
> > > <name>See list of Trafodion developers</name>
> > > <email>dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org<email>
> > > <url>
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> > > </url>
> > > </developer>
> > > </developers>
> > >
> > > <contributors>
> > > <contributor>
> > > <name>See list of Trafodion contributors</name>
> > > <email>dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org</email>
> > > <url>
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> > > </url>
> > > </contributor>
> > > </contributors>
> > >
> > >
> > > The third list has only the committers, that's why I put the URL of
> > > the second list here. If desired, we could differentiate developers
> > > and contributors on the second list, but that may be unnecessary.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Hans
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Suresh Subbiah <
> > > suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thank you Carol, Pierre for explaining.
> > > >
> > > > Suresh
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Pierre Smits
> > > > <pi...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Suresh,
> > > > >
> > > > > You forget promotional contributions, like tweeting blogging or
> > > speaking
> > > > at
> > > > > 3rd party events or participation in organising events where talks
> > > > > will
> > > > be
> > > > > held. Even replying to a posting on one op the projects ml is a
> > > > > contribution.
> > > > >
> > > > > But whenever material is to come into the project, having an iCLA
> > > > submitted
> > > > > is the preferred way. Thus, even before having submitted anything,
> > > having
> > > > > an iCLA on file and registered in that list is a sure indicator of
> > > > showing
> > > > > commitment.
> > > > >
> > > > > What more does the project need?
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Pierre
> > > > >
> > > > > Op woensdag 18 november 2015 heeft Suresh Subbiah <
> > > > > suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Would this be a reasonable definition of a contributor then
> > > > > >
> > > > > > a) Has filed an iCLA
> > > > > > AND
> > > > > > b1) submitted a patch
> > > > > > b2) created or is working on a JIRA
> > > > > > b3) worked on documentation, presentations, release management
> > > > (anything
> > > > > > else?)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I do feel simply filing an iCLA may not make someone a
> contributor.
> > > > There
> > > > > > has to be some contribution or intent to contribute.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you
> > > > > > Suresh
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:02 AM, Pierre Smits <
> > > pierre.smits@gmail.com
> > > > > > <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The second list (
> > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contribu
> > > > > > > tors
> > > )
> > > > > > > identifies the contributors who have gone the extra mile (show
> > > > > > commitment)
> > > > > > > and registered themselves and send in their iCLA to the
> > > > > > > secretary
> > > of
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > ASF. These contributors have some privileges (e.g. being able
> > > > > > > to
> > > > create
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > update wiki pages).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Being in that list is a pre-cursor to becoming a committer
> > > > > > > (get
> > > > commit
> > > > > > > privileges).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Pierre Smits
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > > > gunnar.tapper@esgyn.com
> > > > > > <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The pom.xml file tracks all. I believe that you must have
> > > > > > > > filed
> > > an
> > > > > ICLA
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > be listed.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Carol Pearson [mailto:carol.pearson234@gmail.com
> > > > > <javascript:;>]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 11:45 PM
> > > > > > > > To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;>
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Is this intended to track contributors? Or committers?
> > > > > > > > Those
> > > are
> > > > > two
> > > > > > > > different sets of people, right? Do we just want the
> > > > > > > > committers
> > > on
> > > > > our
> > > > > > > > website? Or the more detailed list tracked in #2?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm happy with #3, which seems to be the implicit decision,
> > > > > > > > just
> > > > > making
> > > > > > > > sure it's explicit here.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -Carol P.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > > > > tapper.gunnar@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Suresh,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I submitted changes to the pom.xml today but did not touch
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > team
> > > > > > > > > entries
> > > > > > > > > much. I will remove #2 for the web site instead relying on
> > > > > > > > > the auto-generated page from the pom.xml. One fewer place
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > maintain
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > information.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So, if you can update the pom.xml to match the project
> > > > > > > > > page,
> > > then
> > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > should
> > > > > > > > > be good.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Suresh Subbiah <
> > > > > > > > > suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Gunnar,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The mentor and committer list at bullet item 3) is
> > accurate.
> > > > > > Roberta
> > > > > > > > > > updated it recently.
> > > > > > > > > > The contributor list in bullet item 2) is the best we
> > > > > > > > > > have,
> > > > > though
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > like to go through it once more time and compare with
> > > > > > > > > > JIRA,
> > > > > github
> > > > > > &
> > > > > > > > > email.
> > > > > > > > > > We have not maintained bullet item 1 for a while. If it
> > > should
> > > > > be,
> > > > > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > > > > that should be a JIRA ticket? I can take care of it.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > It will also be good to have a clear definition of who a
> > > > > > contributor
> > > > > > > > is.
> > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > Suresh
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > > > > > > tapper.gunnar@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I find THREE places where contributors are recorded:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 1. Master pom.xml
> > > > > > > > > > > 2.
> > > > > > > >
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> > > > > > > > > > > 3. http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Which one is the most accurate?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > > > > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't
> > > you're
> > > > > > > right.*
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't
> > > > > > > > > you're
> > > > > right.*
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Pierre Smits
> > > > >
> > > > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
> > > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
>
> Gunnar
> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>
RE: Which contributor list is accurate?
Posted by Gunnar Tapper <gu...@esgyn.com>.
Hi Enis,
I never saw an answer to this one?
Thanks,
Gunnar
-----Original Message-----
From: Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gunnar@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 8:28 AM
To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
Hi Enis,
I think that the issue is related to the pom.xml file and the project page:
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html
How are these two normally coordinated?
Thanks,
Gunnar
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 8:07 PM, Enis Söztutar <en...@apache.org> wrote:
> Maven based projects I am involved with usually keep the "source of truth"
> list of committers in pom.xml, and have the committers page auto-generated
> from that list like [1].
>
> I think tracking the list of contributors is optional. There is no formal
> definition (as opposed to committership). We (in HBase) are using the jira
> field for example for this so that people who works on a jira ticket can
> assign the ticket to themselves. Privileges to create a wiki page is
> similar.
>
> [1] https://hbase.apache.org/team-list.html
>
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 6:57 AM, Gunnar Tapper <ta...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Then, I'll simply link to the project page from the website for the
> > contributor information.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gunnar
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Dave Birdsall <da...@esgyn.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > I will join the love fest also.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Roberta Marton [mailto:roberta.marton@esgyn.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:17 PM
> > > To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: RE: Which contributor list is accurate?
> > >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > Me too
> > >
> > > Roberta
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Venkat Muthuswamy [mailto:venkat.muthuswamy@esgyn.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:13 PM
> > > To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: RE: Which contributor list is accurate?
> > >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > I like this. This way we can extend and maintain the list.
> > >
> > > Venkat
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Pierre Smits [mailto:pierre.smits@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:05 PM
> > > To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
> > >
> > > I believe that would be a smart idea.
> > >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Pierre Smits
> > >
> > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
> > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > >
> > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 12:01 AM, Hans Zeller <ha...@esgyn.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Having three copies of the same thing is not good (even worse if the
> > > > three copies are not kept in sync by Trafodion transactions).
> > > >
> > > > The fact that the pom.xml *can *track developers doesn't mean that
> > > > we
> > > > *have *to use that, or does anyone know of such a requirement?
> > > >
> > > > I would suggest we put a generic developer name into the pom.xml
> > > > file
> > > > with a link to a web page:
> > > >
> > > > <developers>
> > > > <developer>
> > > > <id>TrafodionDeveloper</id>
> > > > <name>See list of Trafodion developers</name>
> > > > <email>dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org<email>
> > > > <url>
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> > > > </url>
> > > > </developer>
> > > > </developers>
> > > >
> > > > <contributors>
> > > > <contributor>
> > > > <name>See list of Trafodion contributors</name>
> > > > <email>dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org</email>
> > > > <url>
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> > > > </url>
> > > > </contributor>
> > > > </contributors>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The third list has only the committers, that's why I put the URL of
> > > > the second list here. If desired, we could differentiate developers
> > > > and contributors on the second list, but that may be unnecessary.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Hans
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Suresh Subbiah <
> > > > suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thank you Carol, Pierre for explaining.
> > > > >
> > > > > Suresh
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Pierre Smits
> > > > > <pi...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Suresh,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You forget promotional contributions, like tweeting blogging or
> > > > speaking
> > > > > at
> > > > > > 3rd party events or participation in organising events where
> talks
> > > > > > will
> > > > > be
> > > > > > held. Even replying to a posting on one op the projects ml is a
> > > > > > contribution.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But whenever material is to come into the project, having an
> > > > > > iCLA
> > > > > submitted
> > > > > > is the preferred way. Thus, even before having submitted
> anything,
> > > > having
> > > > > > an iCLA on file and registered in that list is a sure indicator
> of
> > > > > showing
> > > > > > commitment.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What more does the project need?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pierre
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Op woensdag 18 november 2015 heeft Suresh Subbiah <
> > > > > > suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Would this be a reasonable definition of a contributor then
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > a) Has filed an iCLA
> > > > > > > AND
> > > > > > > b1) submitted a patch
> > > > > > > b2) created or is working on a JIRA
> > > > > > > b3) worked on documentation, presentations, release management
> > > > > (anything
> > > > > > > else?)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I do feel simply filing an iCLA may not make someone a
> > contributor.
> > > > > There
> > > > > > > has to be some contribution or intent to contribute.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you
> > > > > > > Suresh
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:02 AM, Pierre Smits <
> > > > pierre.smits@gmail.com
> > > > > > > <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The second list (
> > > > > > > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contribu
> > > > > > > > tors
> > > > )
> > > > > > > > identifies the contributors who have gone the extra mile
> (show
> > > > > > > commitment)
> > > > > > > > and registered themselves and send in their iCLA to the
> > > > > > > > secretary
> > > > of
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > ASF. These contributors have some privileges (e.g. being
> > > > > > > > able
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > create
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > update wiki pages).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Being in that list is a pre-cursor to becoming a committer
> > > > > > > > (get
> > > > > commit
> > > > > > > > privileges).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Pierre Smits
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > > > > gunnar.tapper@esgyn.com
> > > > > > > <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The pom.xml file tracks all. I believe that you must have
> > > > > > > > > filed
> > > > an
> > > > > > ICLA
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > be listed.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: Carol Pearson [mailto:carol.pearson234@gmail.com
> > > > > > <javascript:;>]
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 11:45 PM
> > > > > > > > > To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;>
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Is this intended to track contributors? Or committers?
> > > > > > > > > Those
> > > > are
> > > > > > two
> > > > > > > > > different sets of people, right? Do we just want the
> > > > > > > > > committers
> > > > on
> > > > > > our
> > > > > > > > > website? Or the more detailed list tracked in #2?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm happy with #3, which seems to be the implicit
> > > > > > > > > decision,
> > > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > making
> > > > > > > > > sure it's explicit here.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -Carol P.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > > > > > tapper.gunnar@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Suresh,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I submitted changes to the pom.xml today but did not
> touch
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > team
> > > > > > > > > > entries
> > > > > > > > > > much. I will remove #2 for the web site instead relying
> on
> > > > > > > > > > the auto-generated page from the pom.xml. One fewer
> > > > > > > > > > place
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > maintain
> > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > information.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > So, if you can update the pom.xml to match the project
> > > > > > > > > > page,
> > > > then
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > should
> > > > > > > > > > be good.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Suresh Subbiah <
> > > > > > > > > > suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi Gunnar,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The mentor and committer list at bullet item 3) is
> > > accurate.
> > > > > > > Roberta
> > > > > > > > > > > updated it recently.
> > > > > > > > > > > The contributor list in bullet item 2) is the best we
> > > > > > > > > > > have,
> > > > > > though
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > > like to go through it once more time and compare with
> > > > > > > > > > > JIRA,
> > > > > > github
> > > > > > > &
> > > > > > > > > > email.
> > > > > > > > > > > We have not maintained bullet item 1 for a while. If
> > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > should
> > > > > > be,
> > > > > > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > > > > > that should be a JIRA ticket? I can take care of it.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > It will also be good to have a clear definition of who
> a
> > > > > > > contributor
> > > > > > > > > is.
> > > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > > Suresh
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > > > > > > > tapper.gunnar@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I find THREE places where contributors are recorded:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Master pom.xml
> > > > > > > > > > > > 2.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> > > > > > > > > > > > 3.
> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Which one is the most accurate?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > > > > > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you
> > > > > > > > > > > > can't
> > > > you're
> > > > > > > > right.*
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > > > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't
> > > > > > > > > > you're
> > > > > > right.*
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Pierre Smits
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
> > > > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gunnar
> > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
> >
>
--
Thanks,
Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
Posted by Gunnar Tapper <ta...@gmail.com>.
Hi Enis,
I think that the issue is related to the pom.xml file and the project page:
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html
How are these two normally coordinated?
Thanks,
Gunnar
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 8:07 PM, Enis Söztutar <en...@apache.org> wrote:
> Maven based projects I am involved with usually keep the "source of truth"
> list of committers in pom.xml, and have the committers page auto-generated
> from that list like [1].
>
> I think tracking the list of contributors is optional. There is no formal
> definition (as opposed to committership). We (in HBase) are using the jira
> field for example for this so that people who works on a jira ticket can
> assign the ticket to themselves. Privileges to create a wiki page is
> similar.
>
> [1] https://hbase.apache.org/team-list.html
>
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 6:57 AM, Gunnar Tapper <ta...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Then, I'll simply link to the project page from the website for the
> > contributor information.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gunnar
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Dave Birdsall <da...@esgyn.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > I will join the love fest also.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Roberta Marton [mailto:roberta.marton@esgyn.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:17 PM
> > > To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: RE: Which contributor list is accurate?
> > >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > Me too
> > >
> > > Roberta
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Venkat Muthuswamy [mailto:venkat.muthuswamy@esgyn.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:13 PM
> > > To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: RE: Which contributor list is accurate?
> > >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > I like this. This way we can extend and maintain the list.
> > >
> > > Venkat
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Pierre Smits [mailto:pierre.smits@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:05 PM
> > > To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
> > >
> > > I believe that would be a smart idea.
> > >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Pierre Smits
> > >
> > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
> > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > >
> > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 12:01 AM, Hans Zeller <ha...@esgyn.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Having three copies of the same thing is not good (even worse if the
> > > > three copies are not kept in sync by Trafodion transactions).
> > > >
> > > > The fact that the pom.xml *can *track developers doesn't mean that we
> > > > *have *to use that, or does anyone know of such a requirement?
> > > >
> > > > I would suggest we put a generic developer name into the pom.xml file
> > > > with a link to a web page:
> > > >
> > > > <developers>
> > > > <developer>
> > > > <id>TrafodionDeveloper</id>
> > > > <name>See list of Trafodion developers</name>
> > > > <email>dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org<email>
> > > > <url>
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> > > > </url>
> > > > </developer>
> > > > </developers>
> > > >
> > > > <contributors>
> > > > <contributor>
> > > > <name>See list of Trafodion contributors</name>
> > > > <email>dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org</email>
> > > > <url>
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> > > > </url>
> > > > </contributor>
> > > > </contributors>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The third list has only the committers, that's why I put the URL of
> > > > the second list here. If desired, we could differentiate developers
> > > > and contributors on the second list, but that may be unnecessary.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Hans
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Suresh Subbiah <
> > > > suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thank you Carol, Pierre for explaining.
> > > > >
> > > > > Suresh
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Pierre Smits
> > > > > <pi...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Suresh,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You forget promotional contributions, like tweeting blogging or
> > > > speaking
> > > > > at
> > > > > > 3rd party events or participation in organising events where
> talks
> > > > > > will
> > > > > be
> > > > > > held. Even replying to a posting on one op the projects ml is a
> > > > > > contribution.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But whenever material is to come into the project, having an iCLA
> > > > > submitted
> > > > > > is the preferred way. Thus, even before having submitted
> anything,
> > > > having
> > > > > > an iCLA on file and registered in that list is a sure indicator
> of
> > > > > showing
> > > > > > commitment.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What more does the project need?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pierre
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Op woensdag 18 november 2015 heeft Suresh Subbiah <
> > > > > > suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Would this be a reasonable definition of a contributor then
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > a) Has filed an iCLA
> > > > > > > AND
> > > > > > > b1) submitted a patch
> > > > > > > b2) created or is working on a JIRA
> > > > > > > b3) worked on documentation, presentations, release management
> > > > > (anything
> > > > > > > else?)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I do feel simply filing an iCLA may not make someone a
> > contributor.
> > > > > There
> > > > > > > has to be some contribution or intent to contribute.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you
> > > > > > > Suresh
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:02 AM, Pierre Smits <
> > > > pierre.smits@gmail.com
> > > > > > > <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The second list (
> > > > > > > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contribu
> > > > > > > > tors
> > > > )
> > > > > > > > identifies the contributors who have gone the extra mile
> (show
> > > > > > > commitment)
> > > > > > > > and registered themselves and send in their iCLA to the
> > > > > > > > secretary
> > > > of
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > ASF. These contributors have some privileges (e.g. being able
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > create
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > update wiki pages).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Being in that list is a pre-cursor to becoming a committer
> > > > > > > > (get
> > > > > commit
> > > > > > > > privileges).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Pierre Smits
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > > > > gunnar.tapper@esgyn.com
> > > > > > > <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The pom.xml file tracks all. I believe that you must have
> > > > > > > > > filed
> > > > an
> > > > > > ICLA
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > be listed.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: Carol Pearson [mailto:carol.pearson234@gmail.com
> > > > > > <javascript:;>]
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 11:45 PM
> > > > > > > > > To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;>
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Is this intended to track contributors? Or committers?
> > > > > > > > > Those
> > > > are
> > > > > > two
> > > > > > > > > different sets of people, right? Do we just want the
> > > > > > > > > committers
> > > > on
> > > > > > our
> > > > > > > > > website? Or the more detailed list tracked in #2?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm happy with #3, which seems to be the implicit decision,
> > > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > making
> > > > > > > > > sure it's explicit here.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -Carol P.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > > > > > tapper.gunnar@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Suresh,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I submitted changes to the pom.xml today but did not
> touch
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > team
> > > > > > > > > > entries
> > > > > > > > > > much. I will remove #2 for the web site instead relying
> on
> > > > > > > > > > the auto-generated page from the pom.xml. One fewer place
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > maintain
> > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > information.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > So, if you can update the pom.xml to match the project
> > > > > > > > > > page,
> > > > then
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > should
> > > > > > > > > > be good.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Suresh Subbiah <
> > > > > > > > > > suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi Gunnar,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The mentor and committer list at bullet item 3) is
> > > accurate.
> > > > > > > Roberta
> > > > > > > > > > > updated it recently.
> > > > > > > > > > > The contributor list in bullet item 2) is the best we
> > > > > > > > > > > have,
> > > > > > though
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > > like to go through it once more time and compare with
> > > > > > > > > > > JIRA,
> > > > > > github
> > > > > > > &
> > > > > > > > > > email.
> > > > > > > > > > > We have not maintained bullet item 1 for a while. If it
> > > > should
> > > > > > be,
> > > > > > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > > > > > that should be a JIRA ticket? I can take care of it.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > It will also be good to have a clear definition of who
> a
> > > > > > > contributor
> > > > > > > > > is.
> > > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > > Suresh
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > > > > > > > tapper.gunnar@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I find THREE places where contributors are recorded:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Master pom.xml
> > > > > > > > > > > > 2.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> > > > > > > > > > > > 3.
> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Which one is the most accurate?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > > > > > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't
> > > > you're
> > > > > > > > right.*
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > > > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't
> > > > > > > > > > you're
> > > > > > right.*
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Pierre Smits
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
> > > > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gunnar
> > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
> >
>
--
Thanks,
Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
Posted by Enis Söztutar <en...@apache.org>.
Maven based projects I am involved with usually keep the "source of truth"
list of committers in pom.xml, and have the committers page auto-generated
from that list like [1].
I think tracking the list of contributors is optional. There is no formal
definition (as opposed to committership). We (in HBase) are using the jira
field for example for this so that people who works on a jira ticket can
assign the ticket to themselves. Privileges to create a wiki page is
similar.
[1] https://hbase.apache.org/team-list.html
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 6:57 AM, Gunnar Tapper <ta...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Then, I'll simply link to the project page from the website for the
> contributor information.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gunnar
>
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Dave Birdsall <da...@esgyn.com>
> wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > I will join the love fest also.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roberta Marton [mailto:roberta.marton@esgyn.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:17 PM
> > To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: Which contributor list is accurate?
> >
> > +1
> >
> > Me too
> >
> > Roberta
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Venkat Muthuswamy [mailto:venkat.muthuswamy@esgyn.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:13 PM
> > To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: Which contributor list is accurate?
> >
> > +1
> >
> > I like this. This way we can extend and maintain the list.
> >
> > Venkat
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pierre Smits [mailto:pierre.smits@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:05 PM
> > To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
> >
> > I believe that would be a smart idea.
> >
> > +1
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Pierre Smits
> >
> > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 12:01 AM, Hans Zeller <ha...@esgyn.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Having three copies of the same thing is not good (even worse if the
> > > three copies are not kept in sync by Trafodion transactions).
> > >
> > > The fact that the pom.xml *can *track developers doesn't mean that we
> > > *have *to use that, or does anyone know of such a requirement?
> > >
> > > I would suggest we put a generic developer name into the pom.xml file
> > > with a link to a web page:
> > >
> > > <developers>
> > > <developer>
> > > <id>TrafodionDeveloper</id>
> > > <name>See list of Trafodion developers</name>
> > > <email>dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org<email>
> > > <url>
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> > > </url>
> > > </developer>
> > > </developers>
> > >
> > > <contributors>
> > > <contributor>
> > > <name>See list of Trafodion contributors</name>
> > > <email>dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org</email>
> > > <url>
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> > > </url>
> > > </contributor>
> > > </contributors>
> > >
> > >
> > > The third list has only the committers, that's why I put the URL of
> > > the second list here. If desired, we could differentiate developers
> > > and contributors on the second list, but that may be unnecessary.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Hans
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Suresh Subbiah <
> > > suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thank you Carol, Pierre for explaining.
> > > >
> > > > Suresh
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Pierre Smits
> > > > <pi...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Suresh,
> > > > >
> > > > > You forget promotional contributions, like tweeting blogging or
> > > speaking
> > > > at
> > > > > 3rd party events or participation in organising events where talks
> > > > > will
> > > > be
> > > > > held. Even replying to a posting on one op the projects ml is a
> > > > > contribution.
> > > > >
> > > > > But whenever material is to come into the project, having an iCLA
> > > > submitted
> > > > > is the preferred way. Thus, even before having submitted anything,
> > > having
> > > > > an iCLA on file and registered in that list is a sure indicator of
> > > > showing
> > > > > commitment.
> > > > >
> > > > > What more does the project need?
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Pierre
> > > > >
> > > > > Op woensdag 18 november 2015 heeft Suresh Subbiah <
> > > > > suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Would this be a reasonable definition of a contributor then
> > > > > >
> > > > > > a) Has filed an iCLA
> > > > > > AND
> > > > > > b1) submitted a patch
> > > > > > b2) created or is working on a JIRA
> > > > > > b3) worked on documentation, presentations, release management
> > > > (anything
> > > > > > else?)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I do feel simply filing an iCLA may not make someone a
> contributor.
> > > > There
> > > > > > has to be some contribution or intent to contribute.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you
> > > > > > Suresh
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:02 AM, Pierre Smits <
> > > pierre.smits@gmail.com
> > > > > > <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The second list (
> > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contribu
> > > > > > > tors
> > > )
> > > > > > > identifies the contributors who have gone the extra mile (show
> > > > > > commitment)
> > > > > > > and registered themselves and send in their iCLA to the
> > > > > > > secretary
> > > of
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > ASF. These contributors have some privileges (e.g. being able
> > > > > > > to
> > > > create
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > update wiki pages).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Being in that list is a pre-cursor to becoming a committer
> > > > > > > (get
> > > > commit
> > > > > > > privileges).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Pierre Smits
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > > > gunnar.tapper@esgyn.com
> > > > > > <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The pom.xml file tracks all. I believe that you must have
> > > > > > > > filed
> > > an
> > > > > ICLA
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > be listed.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Carol Pearson [mailto:carol.pearson234@gmail.com
> > > > > <javascript:;>]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 11:45 PM
> > > > > > > > To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;>
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Is this intended to track contributors? Or committers?
> > > > > > > > Those
> > > are
> > > > > two
> > > > > > > > different sets of people, right? Do we just want the
> > > > > > > > committers
> > > on
> > > > > our
> > > > > > > > website? Or the more detailed list tracked in #2?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm happy with #3, which seems to be the implicit decision,
> > > > > > > > just
> > > > > making
> > > > > > > > sure it's explicit here.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -Carol P.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > > > > tapper.gunnar@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Suresh,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I submitted changes to the pom.xml today but did not touch
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > team
> > > > > > > > > entries
> > > > > > > > > much. I will remove #2 for the web site instead relying on
> > > > > > > > > the auto-generated page from the pom.xml. One fewer place
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > maintain
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > information.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So, if you can update the pom.xml to match the project
> > > > > > > > > page,
> > > then
> > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > should
> > > > > > > > > be good.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Suresh Subbiah <
> > > > > > > > > suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Gunnar,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The mentor and committer list at bullet item 3) is
> > accurate.
> > > > > > Roberta
> > > > > > > > > > updated it recently.
> > > > > > > > > > The contributor list in bullet item 2) is the best we
> > > > > > > > > > have,
> > > > > though
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > like to go through it once more time and compare with
> > > > > > > > > > JIRA,
> > > > > github
> > > > > > &
> > > > > > > > > email.
> > > > > > > > > > We have not maintained bullet item 1 for a while. If it
> > > should
> > > > > be,
> > > > > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > > > > that should be a JIRA ticket? I can take care of it.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > It will also be good to have a clear definition of who a
> > > > > > contributor
> > > > > > > > is.
> > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > Suresh
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > > > > > > tapper.gunnar@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I find THREE places where contributors are recorded:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 1. Master pom.xml
> > > > > > > > > > > 2.
> > > > > > > >
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> > > > > > > > > > > 3. http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Which one is the most accurate?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > > > > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't
> > > you're
> > > > > > > right.*
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't
> > > > > > > > > you're
> > > > > right.*
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Pierre Smits
> > > > >
> > > > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
> > > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
>
> Gunnar
> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>
Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
Posted by Gunnar Tapper <ta...@gmail.com>.
Then, I'll simply link to the project page from the website for the
contributor information.
Thanks,
Gunnar
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Dave Birdsall <da...@esgyn.com>
wrote:
> +1
>
> I will join the love fest also.
>
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roberta Marton [mailto:roberta.marton@esgyn.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:17 PM
> To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Which contributor list is accurate?
>
> +1
>
> Me too
>
> Roberta
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Venkat Muthuswamy [mailto:venkat.muthuswamy@esgyn.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:13 PM
> To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Which contributor list is accurate?
>
> +1
>
> I like this. This way we can extend and maintain the list.
>
> Venkat
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pierre Smits [mailto:pierre.smits@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:05 PM
> To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
>
> I believe that would be a smart idea.
>
> +1
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 12:01 AM, Hans Zeller <ha...@esgyn.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Having three copies of the same thing is not good (even worse if the
> > three copies are not kept in sync by Trafodion transactions).
> >
> > The fact that the pom.xml *can *track developers doesn't mean that we
> > *have *to use that, or does anyone know of such a requirement?
> >
> > I would suggest we put a generic developer name into the pom.xml file
> > with a link to a web page:
> >
> > <developers>
> > <developer>
> > <id>TrafodionDeveloper</id>
> > <name>See list of Trafodion developers</name>
> > <email>dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org<email>
> > <url>
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> > </url>
> > </developer>
> > </developers>
> >
> > <contributors>
> > <contributor>
> > <name>See list of Trafodion contributors</name>
> > <email>dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org</email>
> > <url>
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> > </url>
> > </contributor>
> > </contributors>
> >
> >
> > The third list has only the committers, that's why I put the URL of
> > the second list here. If desired, we could differentiate developers
> > and contributors on the second list, but that may be unnecessary.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Hans
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Suresh Subbiah <
> > suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you Carol, Pierre for explaining.
> > >
> > > Suresh
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Pierre Smits
> > > <pi...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Suresh,
> > > >
> > > > You forget promotional contributions, like tweeting blogging or
> > speaking
> > > at
> > > > 3rd party events or participation in organising events where talks
> > > > will
> > > be
> > > > held. Even replying to a posting on one op the projects ml is a
> > > > contribution.
> > > >
> > > > But whenever material is to come into the project, having an iCLA
> > > submitted
> > > > is the preferred way. Thus, even before having submitted anything,
> > having
> > > > an iCLA on file and registered in that list is a sure indicator of
> > > showing
> > > > commitment.
> > > >
> > > > What more does the project need?
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Pierre
> > > >
> > > > Op woensdag 18 november 2015 heeft Suresh Subbiah <
> > > > suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Would this be a reasonable definition of a contributor then
> > > > >
> > > > > a) Has filed an iCLA
> > > > > AND
> > > > > b1) submitted a patch
> > > > > b2) created or is working on a JIRA
> > > > > b3) worked on documentation, presentations, release management
> > > (anything
> > > > > else?)
> > > > >
> > > > > I do feel simply filing an iCLA may not make someone a contributor.
> > > There
> > > > > has to be some contribution or intent to contribute.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you
> > > > > Suresh
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:02 AM, Pierre Smits <
> > pierre.smits@gmail.com
> > > > > <javascript:;>>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The second list (
> > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contribu
> > > > > > tors
> > )
> > > > > > identifies the contributors who have gone the extra mile (show
> > > > > commitment)
> > > > > > and registered themselves and send in their iCLA to the
> > > > > > secretary
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > > ASF. These contributors have some privileges (e.g. being able
> > > > > > to
> > > create
> > > > > and
> > > > > > update wiki pages).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Being in that list is a pre-cursor to becoming a committer
> > > > > > (get
> > > commit
> > > > > > privileges).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pierre Smits
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > > gunnar.tapper@esgyn.com
> > > > > <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The pom.xml file tracks all. I believe that you must have
> > > > > > > filed
> > an
> > > > ICLA
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > be listed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Carol Pearson [mailto:carol.pearson234@gmail.com
> > > > <javascript:;>]
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 11:45 PM
> > > > > > > To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;>
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is this intended to track contributors? Or committers?
> > > > > > > Those
> > are
> > > > two
> > > > > > > different sets of people, right? Do we just want the
> > > > > > > committers
> > on
> > > > our
> > > > > > > website? Or the more detailed list tracked in #2?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm happy with #3, which seems to be the implicit decision,
> > > > > > > just
> > > > making
> > > > > > > sure it's explicit here.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Carol P.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > > > tapper.gunnar@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Suresh,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I submitted changes to the pom.xml today but did not touch
> > > > > > > > the
> > > team
> > > > > > > > entries
> > > > > > > > much. I will remove #2 for the web site instead relying on
> > > > > > > > the auto-generated page from the pom.xml. One fewer place
> > > > > > > > to
> > maintain
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > > information.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So, if you can update the pom.xml to match the project
> > > > > > > > page,
> > then
> > > > we
> > > > > > > > should
> > > > > > > > be good.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Suresh Subbiah <
> > > > > > > > suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Gunnar,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The mentor and committer list at bullet item 3) is
> accurate.
> > > > > Roberta
> > > > > > > > > updated it recently.
> > > > > > > > > The contributor list in bullet item 2) is the best we
> > > > > > > > > have,
> > > > though
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > like to go through it once more time and compare with
> > > > > > > > > JIRA,
> > > > github
> > > > > &
> > > > > > > > email.
> > > > > > > > > We have not maintained bullet item 1 for a while. If it
> > should
> > > > be,
> > > > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > > > that should be a JIRA ticket? I can take care of it.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It will also be good to have a clear definition of who a
> > > > > contributor
> > > > > > > is.
> > > > > > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > Suresh
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > > > > > tapper.gunnar@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I find THREE places where contributors are recorded:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 1. Master pom.xml
> > > > > > > > > > 2.
> > > > > > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> > > > > > > > > > 3. http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Which one is the most accurate?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > > > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't
> > you're
> > > > > > right.*
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't
> > > > > > > > you're
> > > > right.*
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Pierre Smits
> > > >
> > > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
> > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
--
Thanks,
Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
Posted by Hans Zeller <ha...@esgyn.com>.
Filed a JIRA: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TRAFODION-1640.
Hans
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Dave Birdsall <da...@esgyn.com>
wrote:
> +1
>
> I will join the love fest also.
>
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roberta Marton [mailto:roberta.marton@esgyn.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:17 PM
> To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Which contributor list is accurate?
>
> +1
>
> Me too
>
> Roberta
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Venkat Muthuswamy [mailto:venkat.muthuswamy@esgyn.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:13 PM
> To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Which contributor list is accurate?
>
> +1
>
> I like this. This way we can extend and maintain the list.
>
> Venkat
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pierre Smits [mailto:pierre.smits@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:05 PM
> To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
>
> I believe that would be a smart idea.
>
> +1
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 12:01 AM, Hans Zeller <ha...@esgyn.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Having three copies of the same thing is not good (even worse if the
> > three copies are not kept in sync by Trafodion transactions).
> >
> > The fact that the pom.xml *can *track developers doesn't mean that we
> > *have *to use that, or does anyone know of such a requirement?
> >
> > I would suggest we put a generic developer name into the pom.xml file
> > with a link to a web page:
> >
> > <developers>
> > <developer>
> > <id>TrafodionDeveloper</id>
> > <name>See list of Trafodion developers</name>
> > <email>dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org<email>
> > <url>
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> > </url>
> > </developer>
> > </developers>
> >
> > <contributors>
> > <contributor>
> > <name>See list of Trafodion contributors</name>
> > <email>dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org</email>
> > <url>
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> > </url>
> > </contributor>
> > </contributors>
> >
> >
> > The third list has only the committers, that's why I put the URL of
> > the second list here. If desired, we could differentiate developers
> > and contributors on the second list, but that may be unnecessary.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Hans
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Suresh Subbiah <
> > suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you Carol, Pierre for explaining.
> > >
> > > Suresh
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Pierre Smits
> > > <pi...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Suresh,
> > > >
> > > > You forget promotional contributions, like tweeting blogging or
> > speaking
> > > at
> > > > 3rd party events or participation in organising events where talks
> > > > will
> > > be
> > > > held. Even replying to a posting on one op the projects ml is a
> > > > contribution.
> > > >
> > > > But whenever material is to come into the project, having an iCLA
> > > submitted
> > > > is the preferred way. Thus, even before having submitted anything,
> > having
> > > > an iCLA on file and registered in that list is a sure indicator of
> > > showing
> > > > commitment.
> > > >
> > > > What more does the project need?
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Pierre
> > > >
> > > > Op woensdag 18 november 2015 heeft Suresh Subbiah <
> > > > suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Would this be a reasonable definition of a contributor then
> > > > >
> > > > > a) Has filed an iCLA
> > > > > AND
> > > > > b1) submitted a patch
> > > > > b2) created or is working on a JIRA
> > > > > b3) worked on documentation, presentations, release management
> > > (anything
> > > > > else?)
> > > > >
> > > > > I do feel simply filing an iCLA may not make someone a contributor.
> > > There
> > > > > has to be some contribution or intent to contribute.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you
> > > > > Suresh
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:02 AM, Pierre Smits <
> > pierre.smits@gmail.com
> > > > > <javascript:;>>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The second list (
> > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contribu
> > > > > > tors
> > )
> > > > > > identifies the contributors who have gone the extra mile (show
> > > > > commitment)
> > > > > > and registered themselves and send in their iCLA to the
> > > > > > secretary
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > > ASF. These contributors have some privileges (e.g. being able
> > > > > > to
> > > create
> > > > > and
> > > > > > update wiki pages).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Being in that list is a pre-cursor to becoming a committer
> > > > > > (get
> > > commit
> > > > > > privileges).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pierre Smits
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > > gunnar.tapper@esgyn.com
> > > > > <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The pom.xml file tracks all. I believe that you must have
> > > > > > > filed
> > an
> > > > ICLA
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > be listed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Carol Pearson [mailto:carol.pearson234@gmail.com
> > > > <javascript:;>]
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 11:45 PM
> > > > > > > To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;>
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is this intended to track contributors? Or committers?
> > > > > > > Those
> > are
> > > > two
> > > > > > > different sets of people, right? Do we just want the
> > > > > > > committers
> > on
> > > > our
> > > > > > > website? Or the more detailed list tracked in #2?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm happy with #3, which seems to be the implicit decision,
> > > > > > > just
> > > > making
> > > > > > > sure it's explicit here.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Carol P.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > > > tapper.gunnar@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Suresh,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I submitted changes to the pom.xml today but did not touch
> > > > > > > > the
> > > team
> > > > > > > > entries
> > > > > > > > much. I will remove #2 for the web site instead relying on
> > > > > > > > the auto-generated page from the pom.xml. One fewer place
> > > > > > > > to
> > maintain
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > > information.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So, if you can update the pom.xml to match the project
> > > > > > > > page,
> > then
> > > > we
> > > > > > > > should
> > > > > > > > be good.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Suresh Subbiah <
> > > > > > > > suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Gunnar,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The mentor and committer list at bullet item 3) is
> accurate.
> > > > > Roberta
> > > > > > > > > updated it recently.
> > > > > > > > > The contributor list in bullet item 2) is the best we
> > > > > > > > > have,
> > > > though
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > like to go through it once more time and compare with
> > > > > > > > > JIRA,
> > > > github
> > > > > &
> > > > > > > > email.
> > > > > > > > > We have not maintained bullet item 1 for a while. If it
> > should
> > > > be,
> > > > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > > > that should be a JIRA ticket? I can take care of it.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It will also be good to have a clear definition of who a
> > > > > contributor
> > > > > > > is.
> > > > > > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > Suresh
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > > > > > tapper.gunnar@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I find THREE places where contributors are recorded:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 1. Master pom.xml
> > > > > > > > > > 2.
> > > > > > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> > > > > > > > > > 3. http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Which one is the most accurate?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > > > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't
> > you're
> > > > > > right.*
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't
> > > > > > > > you're
> > > > right.*
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Pierre Smits
> > > >
> > > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
> > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
RE: Which contributor list is accurate?
Posted by Dave Birdsall <da...@esgyn.com>.
+1
I will join the love fest also.
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Roberta Marton [mailto:roberta.marton@esgyn.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:17 PM
To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: Which contributor list is accurate?
+1
Me too
Roberta
-----Original Message-----
From: Venkat Muthuswamy [mailto:venkat.muthuswamy@esgyn.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:13 PM
To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: Which contributor list is accurate?
+1
I like this. This way we can extend and maintain the list.
Venkat
-----Original Message-----
From: Pierre Smits [mailto:pierre.smits@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:05 PM
To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
I believe that would be a smart idea.
+1
Best regards,
Pierre Smits
*OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 12:01 AM, Hans Zeller <ha...@esgyn.com> wrote:
> Having three copies of the same thing is not good (even worse if the
> three copies are not kept in sync by Trafodion transactions).
>
> The fact that the pom.xml *can *track developers doesn't mean that we
> *have *to use that, or does anyone know of such a requirement?
>
> I would suggest we put a generic developer name into the pom.xml file
> with a link to a web page:
>
> <developers>
> <developer>
> <id>TrafodionDeveloper</id>
> <name>See list of Trafodion developers</name>
> <email>dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org<email>
> <url>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> </url>
> </developer>
> </developers>
>
> <contributors>
> <contributor>
> <name>See list of Trafodion contributors</name>
> <email>dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org</email>
> <url>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> </url>
> </contributor>
> </contributors>
>
>
> The third list has only the committers, that's why I put the URL of
> the second list here. If desired, we could differentiate developers
> and contributors on the second list, but that may be unnecessary.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Hans
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Suresh Subbiah <
> suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Thank you Carol, Pierre for explaining.
> >
> > Suresh
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Pierre Smits
> > <pi...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Suresh,
> > >
> > > You forget promotional contributions, like tweeting blogging or
> speaking
> > at
> > > 3rd party events or participation in organising events where talks
> > > will
> > be
> > > held. Even replying to a posting on one op the projects ml is a
> > > contribution.
> > >
> > > But whenever material is to come into the project, having an iCLA
> > submitted
> > > is the preferred way. Thus, even before having submitted anything,
> having
> > > an iCLA on file and registered in that list is a sure indicator of
> > showing
> > > commitment.
> > >
> > > What more does the project need?
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Pierre
> > >
> > > Op woensdag 18 november 2015 heeft Suresh Subbiah <
> > > suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Would this be a reasonable definition of a contributor then
> > > >
> > > > a) Has filed an iCLA
> > > > AND
> > > > b1) submitted a patch
> > > > b2) created or is working on a JIRA
> > > > b3) worked on documentation, presentations, release management
> > (anything
> > > > else?)
> > > >
> > > > I do feel simply filing an iCLA may not make someone a contributor.
> > There
> > > > has to be some contribution or intent to contribute.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you
> > > > Suresh
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:02 AM, Pierre Smits <
> pierre.smits@gmail.com
> > > > <javascript:;>>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The second list (
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contribu
> > > > > tors
> )
> > > > > identifies the contributors who have gone the extra mile (show
> > > > commitment)
> > > > > and registered themselves and send in their iCLA to the
> > > > > secretary
> of
> > > the
> > > > > ASF. These contributors have some privileges (e.g. being able
> > > > > to
> > create
> > > > and
> > > > > update wiki pages).
> > > > >
> > > > > Being in that list is a pre-cursor to becoming a committer
> > > > > (get
> > commit
> > > > > privileges).
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Pierre Smits
> > > > >
> > > > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > gunnar.tapper@esgyn.com
> > > > <javascript:;>>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The pom.xml file tracks all. I believe that you must have
> > > > > > filed
> an
> > > ICLA
> > > > > to
> > > > > > be listed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Carol Pearson [mailto:carol.pearson234@gmail.com
> > > <javascript:;>]
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 11:45 PM
> > > > > > To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is this intended to track contributors? Or committers?
> > > > > > Those
> are
> > > two
> > > > > > different sets of people, right? Do we just want the
> > > > > > committers
> on
> > > our
> > > > > > website? Or the more detailed list tracked in #2?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm happy with #3, which seems to be the implicit decision,
> > > > > > just
> > > making
> > > > > > sure it's explicit here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Carol P.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > > tapper.gunnar@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Suresh,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I submitted changes to the pom.xml today but did not touch
> > > > > > > the
> > team
> > > > > > > entries
> > > > > > > much. I will remove #2 for the web site instead relying on
> > > > > > > the auto-generated page from the pom.xml. One fewer place
> > > > > > > to
> maintain
> > > > this
> > > > > > > information.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So, if you can update the pom.xml to match the project
> > > > > > > page,
> then
> > > we
> > > > > > > should
> > > > > > > be good.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Suresh Subbiah <
> > > > > > > suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Gunnar,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The mentor and committer list at bullet item 3) is accurate.
> > > > Roberta
> > > > > > > > updated it recently.
> > > > > > > > The contributor list in bullet item 2) is the best we
> > > > > > > > have,
> > > though
> > > > I
> > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > like to go through it once more time and compare with
> > > > > > > > JIRA,
> > > github
> > > > &
> > > > > > > email.
> > > > > > > > We have not maintained bullet item 1 for a while. If it
> should
> > > be,
> > > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > > that should be a JIRA ticket? I can take care of it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It will also be good to have a clear definition of who a
> > > > contributor
> > > > > > is.
> > > > > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > Suresh
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > > > > tapper.gunnar@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I find THREE places where contributors are recorded:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 1. Master pom.xml
> > > > > > > > > 2.
> > > > > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> > > > > > > > > 3. http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Which one is the most accurate?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't
> you're
> > > > > right.*
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't
> > > > > > > you're
> > > right.*
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Pierre Smits
> > >
> > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
> > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > >
> >
>
RE: Which contributor list is accurate?
Posted by Roberta Marton <ro...@esgyn.com>.
+1
Me too
Roberta
-----Original Message-----
From: Venkat Muthuswamy [mailto:venkat.muthuswamy@esgyn.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:13 PM
To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: Which contributor list is accurate?
+1
I like this. This way we can extend and maintain the list.
Venkat
-----Original Message-----
From: Pierre Smits [mailto:pierre.smits@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:05 PM
To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
I believe that would be a smart idea.
+1
Best regards,
Pierre Smits
*OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 12:01 AM, Hans Zeller <ha...@esgyn.com> wrote:
> Having three copies of the same thing is not good (even worse if the
> three copies are not kept in sync by Trafodion transactions).
>
> The fact that the pom.xml *can *track developers doesn't mean that we
> *have *to use that, or does anyone know of such a requirement?
>
> I would suggest we put a generic developer name into the pom.xml file
> with a link to a web page:
>
> <developers>
> <developer>
> <id>TrafodionDeveloper</id>
> <name>See list of Trafodion developers</name>
> <email>dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org<email>
> <url>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> </url>
> </developer>
> </developers>
>
> <contributors>
> <contributor>
> <name>See list of Trafodion contributors</name>
> <email>dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org</email>
> <url>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> </url>
> </contributor>
> </contributors>
>
>
> The third list has only the committers, that's why I put the URL of
> the second list here. If desired, we could differentiate developers
> and contributors on the second list, but that may be unnecessary.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Hans
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Suresh Subbiah <
> suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Thank you Carol, Pierre for explaining.
> >
> > Suresh
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Pierre Smits
> > <pi...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Suresh,
> > >
> > > You forget promotional contributions, like tweeting blogging or
> speaking
> > at
> > > 3rd party events or participation in organising events where talks
> > > will
> > be
> > > held. Even replying to a posting on one op the projects ml is a
> > > contribution.
> > >
> > > But whenever material is to come into the project, having an iCLA
> > submitted
> > > is the preferred way. Thus, even before having submitted anything,
> having
> > > an iCLA on file and registered in that list is a sure indicator of
> > showing
> > > commitment.
> > >
> > > What more does the project need?
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Pierre
> > >
> > > Op woensdag 18 november 2015 heeft Suresh Subbiah <
> > > suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Would this be a reasonable definition of a contributor then
> > > >
> > > > a) Has filed an iCLA
> > > > AND
> > > > b1) submitted a patch
> > > > b2) created or is working on a JIRA
> > > > b3) worked on documentation, presentations, release management
> > (anything
> > > > else?)
> > > >
> > > > I do feel simply filing an iCLA may not make someone a contributor.
> > There
> > > > has to be some contribution or intent to contribute.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you
> > > > Suresh
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:02 AM, Pierre Smits <
> pierre.smits@gmail.com
> > > > <javascript:;>>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The second list (
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contribu
> > > > > tors
> )
> > > > > identifies the contributors who have gone the extra mile (show
> > > > commitment)
> > > > > and registered themselves and send in their iCLA to the
> > > > > secretary
> of
> > > the
> > > > > ASF. These contributors have some privileges (e.g. being able
> > > > > to
> > create
> > > > and
> > > > > update wiki pages).
> > > > >
> > > > > Being in that list is a pre-cursor to becoming a committer
> > > > > (get
> > commit
> > > > > privileges).
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Pierre Smits
> > > > >
> > > > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > gunnar.tapper@esgyn.com
> > > > <javascript:;>>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The pom.xml file tracks all. I believe that you must have
> > > > > > filed
> an
> > > ICLA
> > > > > to
> > > > > > be listed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Carol Pearson [mailto:carol.pearson234@gmail.com
> > > <javascript:;>]
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 11:45 PM
> > > > > > To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is this intended to track contributors? Or committers?
> > > > > > Those
> are
> > > two
> > > > > > different sets of people, right? Do we just want the
> > > > > > committers
> on
> > > our
> > > > > > website? Or the more detailed list tracked in #2?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm happy with #3, which seems to be the implicit decision,
> > > > > > just
> > > making
> > > > > > sure it's explicit here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Carol P.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > > tapper.gunnar@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Suresh,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I submitted changes to the pom.xml today but did not touch
> > > > > > > the
> > team
> > > > > > > entries
> > > > > > > much. I will remove #2 for the web site instead relying on
> > > > > > > the auto-generated page from the pom.xml. One fewer place
> > > > > > > to
> maintain
> > > > this
> > > > > > > information.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So, if you can update the pom.xml to match the project
> > > > > > > page,
> then
> > > we
> > > > > > > should
> > > > > > > be good.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Suresh Subbiah <
> > > > > > > suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Gunnar,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The mentor and committer list at bullet item 3) is accurate.
> > > > Roberta
> > > > > > > > updated it recently.
> > > > > > > > The contributor list in bullet item 2) is the best we
> > > > > > > > have,
> > > though
> > > > I
> > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > like to go through it once more time and compare with
> > > > > > > > JIRA,
> > > github
> > > > &
> > > > > > > email.
> > > > > > > > We have not maintained bullet item 1 for a while. If it
> should
> > > be,
> > > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > > that should be a JIRA ticket? I can take care of it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It will also be good to have a clear definition of who a
> > > > contributor
> > > > > > is.
> > > > > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > Suresh
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > > > > tapper.gunnar@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I find THREE places where contributors are recorded:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 1. Master pom.xml
> > > > > > > > > 2.
> > > > > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> > > > > > > > > 3. http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Which one is the most accurate?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't
> you're
> > > > > right.*
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't
> > > > > > > you're
> > > right.*
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Pierre Smits
> > >
> > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
> > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > >
> >
>
RE: Which contributor list is accurate?
Posted by Venkat Muthuswamy <ve...@esgyn.com>.
+1
I like this. This way we can extend and maintain the list.
Venkat
-----Original Message-----
From: Pierre Smits [mailto:pierre.smits@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:05 PM
To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
I believe that would be a smart idea.
+1
Best regards,
Pierre Smits
*OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 12:01 AM, Hans Zeller <ha...@esgyn.com> wrote:
> Having three copies of the same thing is not good (even worse if the
> three copies are not kept in sync by Trafodion transactions).
>
> The fact that the pom.xml *can *track developers doesn't mean that we
> *have *to use that, or does anyone know of such a requirement?
>
> I would suggest we put a generic developer name into the pom.xml file
> with a link to a web page:
>
> <developers>
> <developer>
> <id>TrafodionDeveloper</id>
> <name>See list of Trafodion developers</name>
> <email>dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org<email>
> <url>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> </url>
> </developer>
> </developers>
>
> <contributors>
> <contributor>
> <name>See list of Trafodion contributors</name>
> <email>dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org</email>
> <url>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> </url>
> </contributor>
> </contributors>
>
>
> The third list has only the committers, that's why I put the URL of
> the second list here. If desired, we could differentiate developers
> and contributors on the second list, but that may be unnecessary.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Hans
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Suresh Subbiah <
> suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Thank you Carol, Pierre for explaining.
> >
> > Suresh
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Pierre Smits
> > <pi...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Suresh,
> > >
> > > You forget promotional contributions, like tweeting blogging or
> speaking
> > at
> > > 3rd party events or participation in organising events where talks
> > > will
> > be
> > > held. Even replying to a posting on one op the projects ml is a
> > > contribution.
> > >
> > > But whenever material is to come into the project, having an iCLA
> > submitted
> > > is the preferred way. Thus, even before having submitted anything,
> having
> > > an iCLA on file and registered in that list is a sure indicator of
> > showing
> > > commitment.
> > >
> > > What more does the project need?
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Pierre
> > >
> > > Op woensdag 18 november 2015 heeft Suresh Subbiah <
> > > suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Would this be a reasonable definition of a contributor then
> > > >
> > > > a) Has filed an iCLA
> > > > AND
> > > > b1) submitted a patch
> > > > b2) created or is working on a JIRA
> > > > b3) worked on documentation, presentations, release management
> > (anything
> > > > else?)
> > > >
> > > > I do feel simply filing an iCLA may not make someone a contributor.
> > There
> > > > has to be some contribution or intent to contribute.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you
> > > > Suresh
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:02 AM, Pierre Smits <
> pierre.smits@gmail.com
> > > > <javascript:;>>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The second list (
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contribu
> > > > > tors
> )
> > > > > identifies the contributors who have gone the extra mile (show
> > > > commitment)
> > > > > and registered themselves and send in their iCLA to the
> > > > > secretary
> of
> > > the
> > > > > ASF. These contributors have some privileges (e.g. being able
> > > > > to
> > create
> > > > and
> > > > > update wiki pages).
> > > > >
> > > > > Being in that list is a pre-cursor to becoming a committer
> > > > > (get
> > commit
> > > > > privileges).
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Pierre Smits
> > > > >
> > > > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > gunnar.tapper@esgyn.com
> > > > <javascript:;>>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The pom.xml file tracks all. I believe that you must have
> > > > > > filed
> an
> > > ICLA
> > > > > to
> > > > > > be listed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Carol Pearson [mailto:carol.pearson234@gmail.com
> > > <javascript:;>]
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 11:45 PM
> > > > > > To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is this intended to track contributors? Or committers?
> > > > > > Those
> are
> > > two
> > > > > > different sets of people, right? Do we just want the
> > > > > > committers
> on
> > > our
> > > > > > website? Or the more detailed list tracked in #2?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm happy with #3, which seems to be the implicit decision,
> > > > > > just
> > > making
> > > > > > sure it's explicit here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Carol P.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > > tapper.gunnar@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Suresh,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I submitted changes to the pom.xml today but did not touch
> > > > > > > the
> > team
> > > > > > > entries
> > > > > > > much. I will remove #2 for the web site instead relying on
> > > > > > > the auto-generated page from the pom.xml. One fewer place
> > > > > > > to
> maintain
> > > > this
> > > > > > > information.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So, if you can update the pom.xml to match the project
> > > > > > > page,
> then
> > > we
> > > > > > > should
> > > > > > > be good.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Suresh Subbiah <
> > > > > > > suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Gunnar,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The mentor and committer list at bullet item 3) is accurate.
> > > > Roberta
> > > > > > > > updated it recently.
> > > > > > > > The contributor list in bullet item 2) is the best we
> > > > > > > > have,
> > > though
> > > > I
> > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > like to go through it once more time and compare with
> > > > > > > > JIRA,
> > > github
> > > > &
> > > > > > > email.
> > > > > > > > We have not maintained bullet item 1 for a while. If it
> should
> > > be,
> > > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > > that should be a JIRA ticket? I can take care of it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It will also be good to have a clear definition of who a
> > > > contributor
> > > > > > is.
> > > > > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > Suresh
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > > > > tapper.gunnar@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I find THREE places where contributors are recorded:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 1. Master pom.xml
> > > > > > > > > 2.
> > > > > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> > > > > > > > > 3. http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Which one is the most accurate?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't
> you're
> > > > > right.*
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't
> > > > > > > you're
> > > right.*
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Pierre Smits
> > >
> > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
> > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > >
> >
>
Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
Posted by Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>.
I believe that would be a smart idea.
+1
Best regards,
Pierre Smits
*OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 12:01 AM, Hans Zeller <ha...@esgyn.com> wrote:
> Having three copies of the same thing is not good (even worse if the three
> copies are not kept in sync by Trafodion transactions).
>
> The fact that the pom.xml *can *track developers doesn't mean that we *have
> *to use that, or does anyone know of such a requirement?
>
> I would suggest we put a generic developer name into the pom.xml file with
> a link to a web page:
>
> <developers>
> <developer>
> <id>TrafodionDeveloper</id>
> <name>See list of Trafodion developers</name>
> <email>dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org<email>
> <url>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> </url>
> </developer>
> </developers>
>
> <contributors>
> <contributor>
> <name>See list of Trafodion contributors</name>
> <email>dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org</email>
> <url>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> </url>
> </contributor>
> </contributors>
>
>
> The third list has only the committers, that's why I put the URL of the
> second list here. If desired, we could differentiate developers and
> contributors on the second list, but that may be unnecessary.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Hans
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Suresh Subbiah <
> suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Thank you Carol, Pierre for explaining.
> >
> > Suresh
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Suresh,
> > >
> > > You forget promotional contributions, like tweeting blogging or
> speaking
> > at
> > > 3rd party events or participation in organising events where talks will
> > be
> > > held. Even replying to a posting on one op the projects ml is a
> > > contribution.
> > >
> > > But whenever material is to come into the project, having an iCLA
> > submitted
> > > is the preferred way. Thus, even before having submitted anything,
> having
> > > an iCLA on file and registered in that list is a sure indicator of
> > showing
> > > commitment.
> > >
> > > What more does the project need?
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Pierre
> > >
> > > Op woensdag 18 november 2015 heeft Suresh Subbiah <
> > > suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Would this be a reasonable definition of a contributor then
> > > >
> > > > a) Has filed an iCLA
> > > > AND
> > > > b1) submitted a patch
> > > > b2) created or is working on a JIRA
> > > > b3) worked on documentation, presentations, release management
> > (anything
> > > > else?)
> > > >
> > > > I do feel simply filing an iCLA may not make someone a contributor.
> > There
> > > > has to be some contribution or intent to contribute.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you
> > > > Suresh
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:02 AM, Pierre Smits <
> pierre.smits@gmail.com
> > > > <javascript:;>>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The second list (
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> )
> > > > > identifies the contributors who have gone the extra mile (show
> > > > commitment)
> > > > > and registered themselves and send in their iCLA to the secretary
> of
> > > the
> > > > > ASF. These contributors have some privileges (e.g. being able to
> > create
> > > > and
> > > > > update wiki pages).
> > > > >
> > > > > Being in that list is a pre-cursor to becoming a committer (get
> > commit
> > > > > privileges).
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Pierre Smits
> > > > >
> > > > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
> > > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > gunnar.tapper@esgyn.com
> > > > <javascript:;>>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The pom.xml file tracks all. I believe that you must have filed
> an
> > > ICLA
> > > > > to
> > > > > > be listed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Carol Pearson [mailto:carol.pearson234@gmail.com
> > > <javascript:;>]
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 11:45 PM
> > > > > > To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is this intended to track contributors? Or committers? Those
> are
> > > two
> > > > > > different sets of people, right? Do we just want the committers
> on
> > > our
> > > > > > website? Or the more detailed list tracked in #2?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm happy with #3, which seems to be the implicit decision, just
> > > making
> > > > > > sure it's explicit here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Carol P.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > > tapper.gunnar@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Suresh,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I submitted changes to the pom.xml today but did not touch the
> > team
> > > > > > > entries
> > > > > > > much. I will remove #2 for the web site instead relying on the
> > > > > > > auto-generated page from the pom.xml. One fewer place to
> maintain
> > > > this
> > > > > > > information.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So, if you can update the pom.xml to match the project page,
> then
> > > we
> > > > > > > should
> > > > > > > be good.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Suresh Subbiah <
> > > > > > > suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Gunnar,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The mentor and committer list at bullet item 3) is accurate.
> > > > Roberta
> > > > > > > > updated it recently.
> > > > > > > > The contributor list in bullet item 2) is the best we have,
> > > though
> > > > I
> > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > like to go through it once more time and compare with JIRA,
> > > github
> > > > &
> > > > > > > email.
> > > > > > > > We have not maintained bullet item 1 for a while. If it
> should
> > > be,
> > > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > > that should be a JIRA ticket? I can take care of it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It will also be good to have a clear definition of who a
> > > > contributor
> > > > > > is.
> > > > > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > Suresh
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > > > > tapper.gunnar@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I find THREE places where contributors are recorded:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 1. Master pom.xml
> > > > > > > > > 2.
> > > > > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> > > > > > > > > 3. http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Which one is the most accurate?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't
> you're
> > > > > right.*
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're
> > > right.*
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Pierre Smits
> > >
> > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
> > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > >
> >
>
Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
Posted by Hans Zeller <ha...@esgyn.com>.
Having three copies of the same thing is not good (even worse if the three
copies are not kept in sync by Trafodion transactions).
The fact that the pom.xml *can *track developers doesn't mean that we *have
*to use that, or does anyone know of such a requirement?
I would suggest we put a generic developer name into the pom.xml file with
a link to a web page:
<developers>
<developer>
<id>TrafodionDeveloper</id>
<name>See list of Trafodion developers</name>
<email>dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org<email>
<url>https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
</url>
</developer>
</developers>
<contributors>
<contributor>
<name>See list of Trafodion contributors</name>
<email>dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org</email>
<url>https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
</url>
</contributor>
</contributors>
The third list has only the committers, that's why I put the URL of the
second list here. If desired, we could differentiate developers and
contributors on the second list, but that may be unnecessary.
Thanks,
Hans
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Suresh Subbiah <su...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Thank you Carol, Pierre for explaining.
>
> Suresh
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Suresh,
> >
> > You forget promotional contributions, like tweeting blogging or speaking
> at
> > 3rd party events or participation in organising events where talks will
> be
> > held. Even replying to a posting on one op the projects ml is a
> > contribution.
> >
> > But whenever material is to come into the project, having an iCLA
> submitted
> > is the preferred way. Thus, even before having submitted anything, having
> > an iCLA on file and registered in that list is a sure indicator of
> showing
> > commitment.
> >
> > What more does the project need?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Pierre
> >
> > Op woensdag 18 november 2015 heeft Suresh Subbiah <
> > suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Would this be a reasonable definition of a contributor then
> > >
> > > a) Has filed an iCLA
> > > AND
> > > b1) submitted a patch
> > > b2) created or is working on a JIRA
> > > b3) worked on documentation, presentations, release management
> (anything
> > > else?)
> > >
> > > I do feel simply filing an iCLA may not make someone a contributor.
> There
> > > has to be some contribution or intent to contribute.
> > >
> > > Thank you
> > > Suresh
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:02 AM, Pierre Smits <pierre.smits@gmail.com
> > > <javascript:;>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > The second list (
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors)
> > > > identifies the contributors who have gone the extra mile (show
> > > commitment)
> > > > and registered themselves and send in their iCLA to the secretary of
> > the
> > > > ASF. These contributors have some privileges (e.g. being able to
> create
> > > and
> > > > update wiki pages).
> > > >
> > > > Being in that list is a pre-cursor to becoming a committer (get
> commit
> > > > privileges).
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Pierre Smits
> > > >
> > > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
> > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > gunnar.tapper@esgyn.com
> > > <javascript:;>>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The pom.xml file tracks all. I believe that you must have filed an
> > ICLA
> > > > to
> > > > > be listed.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Carol Pearson [mailto:carol.pearson234@gmail.com
> > <javascript:;>]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 11:45 PM
> > > > > To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;>
> > > > > Subject: Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
> > > > >
> > > > > Is this intended to track contributors? Or committers? Those are
> > two
> > > > > different sets of people, right? Do we just want the committers on
> > our
> > > > > website? Or the more detailed list tracked in #2?
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm happy with #3, which seems to be the implicit decision, just
> > making
> > > > > sure it's explicit here.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Carol P.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > tapper.gunnar@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Suresh,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I submitted changes to the pom.xml today but did not touch the
> team
> > > > > > entries
> > > > > > much. I will remove #2 for the web site instead relying on the
> > > > > > auto-generated page from the pom.xml. One fewer place to maintain
> > > this
> > > > > > information.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, if you can update the pom.xml to match the project page, then
> > we
> > > > > > should
> > > > > > be good.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Suresh Subbiah <
> > > > > > suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Gunnar,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The mentor and committer list at bullet item 3) is accurate.
> > > Roberta
> > > > > > > updated it recently.
> > > > > > > The contributor list in bullet item 2) is the best we have,
> > though
> > > I
> > > > > > would
> > > > > > > like to go through it once more time and compare with JIRA,
> > github
> > > &
> > > > > > email.
> > > > > > > We have not maintained bullet item 1 for a while. If it should
> > be,
> > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > that should be a JIRA ticket? I can take care of it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It will also be good to have a clear definition of who a
> > > contributor
> > > > > is.
> > > > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > Suresh
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > > > tapper.gunnar@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I find THREE places where contributors are recorded:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 1. Master pom.xml
> > > > > > > > 2.
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> > > > > > > > 3. http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Which one is the most accurate?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're
> > > > right.*
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're
> > right.*
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Pierre Smits
> >
> > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >
>
Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
Posted by Suresh Subbiah <su...@gmail.com>.
Thank you Carol, Pierre for explaining.
Suresh
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi Suresh,
>
> You forget promotional contributions, like tweeting blogging or speaking at
> 3rd party events or participation in organising events where talks will be
> held. Even replying to a posting on one op the projects ml is a
> contribution.
>
> But whenever material is to come into the project, having an iCLA submitted
> is the preferred way. Thus, even before having submitted anything, having
> an iCLA on file and registered in that list is a sure indicator of showing
> commitment.
>
> What more does the project need?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pierre
>
> Op woensdag 18 november 2015 heeft Suresh Subbiah <
> suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Would this be a reasonable definition of a contributor then
> >
> > a) Has filed an iCLA
> > AND
> > b1) submitted a patch
> > b2) created or is working on a JIRA
> > b3) worked on documentation, presentations, release management (anything
> > else?)
> >
> > I do feel simply filing an iCLA may not make someone a contributor. There
> > has to be some contribution or intent to contribute.
> >
> > Thank you
> > Suresh
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:02 AM, Pierre Smits <pierre.smits@gmail.com
> > <javascript:;>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The second list (
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors)
> > > identifies the contributors who have gone the extra mile (show
> > commitment)
> > > and registered themselves and send in their iCLA to the secretary of
> the
> > > ASF. These contributors have some privileges (e.g. being able to create
> > and
> > > update wiki pages).
> > >
> > > Being in that list is a pre-cursor to becoming a committer (get commit
> > > privileges).
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Pierre Smits
> > >
> > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
> > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Gunnar Tapper <
> gunnar.tapper@esgyn.com
> > <javascript:;>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > The pom.xml file tracks all. I believe that you must have filed an
> ICLA
> > > to
> > > > be listed.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Carol Pearson [mailto:carol.pearson234@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 11:45 PM
> > > > To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;>
> > > > Subject: Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
> > > >
> > > > Is this intended to track contributors? Or committers? Those are
> two
> > > > different sets of people, right? Do we just want the committers on
> our
> > > > website? Or the more detailed list tracked in #2?
> > > >
> > > > I'm happy with #3, which seems to be the implicit decision, just
> making
> > > > sure it's explicit here.
> > > >
> > > > -Carol P.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > tapper.gunnar@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Suresh,
> > > > >
> > > > > I submitted changes to the pom.xml today but did not touch the team
> > > > > entries
> > > > > much. I will remove #2 for the web site instead relying on the
> > > > > auto-generated page from the pom.xml. One fewer place to maintain
> > this
> > > > > information.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, if you can update the pom.xml to match the project page, then
> we
> > > > > should
> > > > > be good.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Gunnar
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Suresh Subbiah <
> > > > > suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Gunnar,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The mentor and committer list at bullet item 3) is accurate.
> > Roberta
> > > > > > updated it recently.
> > > > > > The contributor list in bullet item 2) is the best we have,
> though
> > I
> > > > > would
> > > > > > like to go through it once more time and compare with JIRA,
> github
> > &
> > > > > email.
> > > > > > We have not maintained bullet item 1 for a while. If it should
> be,
> > > > maybe
> > > > > > that should be a JIRA ticket? I can take care of it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It will also be good to have a clear definition of who a
> > contributor
> > > > is.
> > > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > Suresh
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > > tapper.gunnar@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I find THREE places where contributors are recorded:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1. Master pom.xml
> > > > > > > 2.
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> > > > > > > 3. http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Which one is the most accurate?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're
> > > right.*
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're
> right.*
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Pierre Smits
>
> *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>
Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
Posted by Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>.
Hi Suresh,
You forget promotional contributions, like tweeting blogging or speaking at
3rd party events or participation in organising events where talks will be
held. Even replying to a posting on one op the projects ml is a
contribution.
But whenever material is to come into the project, having an iCLA submitted
is the preferred way. Thus, even before having submitted anything, having
an iCLA on file and registered in that list is a sure indicator of showing
commitment.
What more does the project need?
Best regards,
Pierre
Op woensdag 18 november 2015 heeft Suresh Subbiah <
suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> Hi,
>
> Would this be a reasonable definition of a contributor then
>
> a) Has filed an iCLA
> AND
> b1) submitted a patch
> b2) created or is working on a JIRA
> b3) worked on documentation, presentations, release management (anything
> else?)
>
> I do feel simply filing an iCLA may not make someone a contributor. There
> has to be some contribution or intent to contribute.
>
> Thank you
> Suresh
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:02 AM, Pierre Smits <pierre.smits@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> > The second list (
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors)
> > identifies the contributors who have gone the extra mile (show
> commitment)
> > and registered themselves and send in their iCLA to the secretary of the
> > ASF. These contributors have some privileges (e.g. being able to create
> and
> > update wiki pages).
> >
> > Being in that list is a pre-cursor to becoming a committer (get commit
> > privileges).
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Pierre Smits
> >
> > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Gunnar Tapper <gunnar.tapper@esgyn.com
> <javascript:;>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The pom.xml file tracks all. I believe that you must have filed an ICLA
> > to
> > > be listed.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Carol Pearson [mailto:carol.pearson234@gmail.com <javascript:;>]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 11:45 PM
> > > To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;>
> > > Subject: Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
> > >
> > > Is this intended to track contributors? Or committers? Those are two
> > > different sets of people, right? Do we just want the committers on our
> > > website? Or the more detailed list tracked in #2?
> > >
> > > I'm happy with #3, which seems to be the implicit decision, just making
> > > sure it's explicit here.
> > >
> > > -Carol P.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Gunnar Tapper <
> tapper.gunnar@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Suresh,
> > > >
> > > > I submitted changes to the pom.xml today but did not touch the team
> > > > entries
> > > > much. I will remove #2 for the web site instead relying on the
> > > > auto-generated page from the pom.xml. One fewer place to maintain
> this
> > > > information.
> > > >
> > > > So, if you can update the pom.xml to match the project page, then we
> > > > should
> > > > be good.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Gunnar
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Suresh Subbiah <
> > > > suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Gunnar,
> > > > >
> > > > > The mentor and committer list at bullet item 3) is accurate.
> Roberta
> > > > > updated it recently.
> > > > > The contributor list in bullet item 2) is the best we have, though
> I
> > > > would
> > > > > like to go through it once more time and compare with JIRA, github
> &
> > > > email.
> > > > > We have not maintained bullet item 1 for a while. If it should be,
> > > maybe
> > > > > that should be a JIRA ticket? I can take care of it.
> > > > >
> > > > > It will also be good to have a clear definition of who a
> contributor
> > > is.
> > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Suresh
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > tapper.gunnar@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I find THREE places where contributors are recorded:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. Master pom.xml
> > > > > > 2.
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> > > > > > 3. http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Which one is the most accurate?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're
> > right.*
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Gunnar
> > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
--
Pierre Smits
*OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
Posted by Carol Pearson <ca...@gmail.com>.
HI Suresh,
This page: https://community.apache.org/contributors/ outlines
the"contributor" in far-ranging terms:
Anyone can be a contributor to an Apache project. Being a contributor
simply means that you take an interest in the project and contribute in
some way, ranging from asking sensible questions (which documents the
project and provides feedback to developers) through to providing new
features as patches.
If you become a valuable contributor to the project you may well be invited
to become a committer. Committer is an term used at the ASF to signify
someone who is committed to a particular project. It brings with it the
privilege of write access to the project repository and resources. In many
projects committers are also invited to be part of the core group within
the project that ensures the project's vitality (represented by the Project
Management Committee, PMC). In a few projects a only a subset of
committers, who have earned even more merit, are invited to be a part of
the PMC.
One thing that is sometimes hard to understand when you are new to the open
development1 process used at the ASF, is that we value the community more
than the code. A strong and healthy community will be respectful and be a
fun and rewarding place. Strong code will evolve.
It does not say what it takes to get listed because it sounds like that's
community-decided. I think the ICLA plus an announced intent to contribute
(or *de facto *contribute by participating on an email list) is probably
sufficient to be listed. We want to be welcoming and open.
-Carol P.
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Suresh Subbiah <su...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Would this be a reasonable definition of a contributor then
>
> a) Has filed an iCLA
> AND
> b1) submitted a patch
> b2) created or is working on a JIRA
> b3) worked on documentation, presentations, release management (anything
> else?)
>
> I do feel simply filing an iCLA may not make someone a contributor. There
> has to be some contribution or intent to contribute.
>
> Thank you
> Suresh
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:02 AM, Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The second list (
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors)
> > identifies the contributors who have gone the extra mile (show
> commitment)
> > and registered themselves and send in their iCLA to the secretary of the
> > ASF. These contributors have some privileges (e.g. being able to create
> and
> > update wiki pages).
> >
> > Being in that list is a pre-cursor to becoming a committer (get commit
> > privileges).
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Pierre Smits
> >
> > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Gunnar Tapper <gu...@esgyn.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The pom.xml file tracks all. I believe that you must have filed an ICLA
> > to
> > > be listed.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Carol Pearson [mailto:carol.pearson234@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 11:45 PM
> > > To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
> > >
> > > Is this intended to track contributors? Or committers? Those are two
> > > different sets of people, right? Do we just want the committers on our
> > > website? Or the more detailed list tracked in #2?
> > >
> > > I'm happy with #3, which seems to be the implicit decision, just making
> > > sure it's explicit here.
> > >
> > > -Carol P.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Gunnar Tapper <
> tapper.gunnar@gmail.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Suresh,
> > > >
> > > > I submitted changes to the pom.xml today but did not touch the team
> > > > entries
> > > > much. I will remove #2 for the web site instead relying on the
> > > > auto-generated page from the pom.xml. One fewer place to maintain
> this
> > > > information.
> > > >
> > > > So, if you can update the pom.xml to match the project page, then we
> > > > should
> > > > be good.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Gunnar
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Suresh Subbiah <
> > > > suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Gunnar,
> > > > >
> > > > > The mentor and committer list at bullet item 3) is accurate.
> Roberta
> > > > > updated it recently.
> > > > > The contributor list in bullet item 2) is the best we have, though
> I
> > > > would
> > > > > like to go through it once more time and compare with JIRA, github
> &
> > > > email.
> > > > > We have not maintained bullet item 1 for a while. If it should be,
> > > maybe
> > > > > that should be a JIRA ticket? I can take care of it.
> > > > >
> > > > > It will also be good to have a clear definition of who a
> contributor
> > > is.
> > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Suresh
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > > tapper.gunnar@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I find THREE places where contributors are recorded:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. Master pom.xml
> > > > > > 2.
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> > > > > > 3. http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Which one is the most accurate?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're
> > right.*
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Gunnar
> > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
Posted by Suresh Subbiah <su...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
Would this be a reasonable definition of a contributor then
a) Has filed an iCLA
AND
b1) submitted a patch
b2) created or is working on a JIRA
b3) worked on documentation, presentations, release management (anything
else?)
I do feel simply filing an iCLA may not make someone a contributor. There
has to be some contribution or intent to contribute.
Thank you
Suresh
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 4:02 AM, Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> The second list (
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors)
> identifies the contributors who have gone the extra mile (show commitment)
> and registered themselves and send in their iCLA to the secretary of the
> ASF. These contributors have some privileges (e.g. being able to create and
> update wiki pages).
>
> Being in that list is a pre-cursor to becoming a committer (get commit
> privileges).
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Gunnar Tapper <gu...@esgyn.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The pom.xml file tracks all. I believe that you must have filed an ICLA
> to
> > be listed.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Carol Pearson [mailto:carol.pearson234@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 11:45 PM
> > To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
> >
> > Is this intended to track contributors? Or committers? Those are two
> > different sets of people, right? Do we just want the committers on our
> > website? Or the more detailed list tracked in #2?
> >
> > I'm happy with #3, which seems to be the implicit decision, just making
> > sure it's explicit here.
> >
> > -Carol P.
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gunnar@gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Suresh,
> > >
> > > I submitted changes to the pom.xml today but did not touch the team
> > > entries
> > > much. I will remove #2 for the web site instead relying on the
> > > auto-generated page from the pom.xml. One fewer place to maintain this
> > > information.
> > >
> > > So, if you can update the pom.xml to match the project page, then we
> > > should
> > > be good.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Gunnar
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Suresh Subbiah <
> > > suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Gunnar,
> > > >
> > > > The mentor and committer list at bullet item 3) is accurate. Roberta
> > > > updated it recently.
> > > > The contributor list in bullet item 2) is the best we have, though I
> > > would
> > > > like to go through it once more time and compare with JIRA, github &
> > > email.
> > > > We have not maintained bullet item 1 for a while. If it should be,
> > maybe
> > > > that should be a JIRA ticket? I can take care of it.
> > > >
> > > > It will also be good to have a clear definition of who a contributor
> > is.
> > > > Any suggestions?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Suresh
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Gunnar Tapper <
> > tapper.gunnar@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I find THREE places where contributors are recorded:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Master pom.xml
> > > > > 2.
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> > > > > 3. http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Which one is the most accurate?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Gunnar
> > > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're
> right.*
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Gunnar
> > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
> > >
> >
>
Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
Posted by Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>.
The second list (
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors)
identifies the contributors who have gone the extra mile (show commitment)
and registered themselves and send in their iCLA to the secretary of the
ASF. These contributors have some privileges (e.g. being able to create and
update wiki pages).
Being in that list is a pre-cursor to becoming a committer (get commit
privileges).
Best regards,
Pierre Smits
*OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Gunnar Tapper <gu...@esgyn.com>
wrote:
> The pom.xml file tracks all. I believe that you must have filed an ICLA to
> be listed.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carol Pearson [mailto:carol.pearson234@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 11:45 PM
> To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
>
> Is this intended to track contributors? Or committers? Those are two
> different sets of people, right? Do we just want the committers on our
> website? Or the more detailed list tracked in #2?
>
> I'm happy with #3, which seems to be the implicit decision, just making
> sure it's explicit here.
>
> -Carol P.
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Gunnar Tapper <ta...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Suresh,
> >
> > I submitted changes to the pom.xml today but did not touch the team
> > entries
> > much. I will remove #2 for the web site instead relying on the
> > auto-generated page from the pom.xml. One fewer place to maintain this
> > information.
> >
> > So, if you can update the pom.xml to match the project page, then we
> > should
> > be good.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gunnar
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Suresh Subbiah <
> > suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Gunnar,
> > >
> > > The mentor and committer list at bullet item 3) is accurate. Roberta
> > > updated it recently.
> > > The contributor list in bullet item 2) is the best we have, though I
> > would
> > > like to go through it once more time and compare with JIRA, github &
> > email.
> > > We have not maintained bullet item 1 for a while. If it should be,
> maybe
> > > that should be a JIRA ticket? I can take care of it.
> > >
> > > It will also be good to have a clear definition of who a contributor
> is.
> > > Any suggestions?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Suresh
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Gunnar Tapper <
> tapper.gunnar@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I find THREE places where contributors are recorded:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Master pom.xml
> > > > 2.
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> > > > 3. http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html
> > > >
> > > > Which one is the most accurate?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Gunnar
> > > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gunnar
> > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
> >
>
RE: Which contributor list is accurate?
Posted by Gunnar Tapper <gu...@esgyn.com>.
The pom.xml file tracks all. I believe that you must have filed an ICLA to
be listed.
-----Original Message-----
From: Carol Pearson [mailto:carol.pearson234@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 11:45 PM
To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
Is this intended to track contributors? Or committers? Those are two
different sets of people, right? Do we just want the committers on our
website? Or the more detailed list tracked in #2?
I'm happy with #3, which seems to be the implicit decision, just making
sure it's explicit here.
-Carol P.
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Gunnar Tapper <ta...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi Suresh,
>
> I submitted changes to the pom.xml today but did not touch the team
> entries
> much. I will remove #2 for the web site instead relying on the
> auto-generated page from the pom.xml. One fewer place to maintain this
> information.
>
> So, if you can update the pom.xml to match the project page, then we
> should
> be good.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gunnar
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Suresh Subbiah <
> suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Gunnar,
> >
> > The mentor and committer list at bullet item 3) is accurate. Roberta
> > updated it recently.
> > The contributor list in bullet item 2) is the best we have, though I
> would
> > like to go through it once more time and compare with JIRA, github &
> email.
> > We have not maintained bullet item 1 for a while. If it should be, maybe
> > that should be a JIRA ticket? I can take care of it.
> >
> > It will also be good to have a clear definition of who a contributor is.
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Suresh
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Gunnar Tapper <ta...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I find THREE places where contributors are recorded:
> > >
> > > 1. Master pom.xml
> > > 2. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> > > 3. http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html
> > >
> > > Which one is the most accurate?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Gunnar
> > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
>
> Gunnar
> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>
Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
Posted by Carol Pearson <ca...@gmail.com>.
Is this intended to track contributors? Or committers? Those are two
different sets of people, right? Do we just want the committers on our
website? Or the more detailed list tracked in #2?
I'm happy with #3, which seems to be the implicit decision, just making
sure it's explicit here.
-Carol P.
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Gunnar Tapper <ta...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi Suresh,
>
> I submitted changes to the pom.xml today but did not touch the team entries
> much. I will remove #2 for the web site instead relying on the
> auto-generated page from the pom.xml. One fewer place to maintain this
> information.
>
> So, if you can update the pom.xml to match the project page, then we should
> be good.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gunnar
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Suresh Subbiah <
> suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Gunnar,
> >
> > The mentor and committer list at bullet item 3) is accurate. Roberta
> > updated it recently.
> > The contributor list in bullet item 2) is the best we have, though I
> would
> > like to go through it once more time and compare with JIRA, github &
> email.
> > We have not maintained bullet item 1 for a while. If it should be, maybe
> > that should be a JIRA ticket? I can take care of it.
> >
> > It will also be good to have a clear definition of who a contributor is.
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Suresh
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Gunnar Tapper <ta...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I find THREE places where contributors are recorded:
> > >
> > > 1. Master pom.xml
> > > 2. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> > > 3. http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html
> > >
> > > Which one is the most accurate?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Gunnar
> > > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
>
> Gunnar
> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>
Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
Posted by Gunnar Tapper <ta...@gmail.com>.
Hi Suresh,
I submitted changes to the pom.xml today but did not touch the team entries
much. I will remove #2 for the web site instead relying on the
auto-generated page from the pom.xml. One fewer place to maintain this
information.
So, if you can update the pom.xml to match the project page, then we should
be good.
Thanks,
Gunnar
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Suresh Subbiah <su...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi Gunnar,
>
> The mentor and committer list at bullet item 3) is accurate. Roberta
> updated it recently.
> The contributor list in bullet item 2) is the best we have, though I would
> like to go through it once more time and compare with JIRA, github & email.
> We have not maintained bullet item 1 for a while. If it should be, maybe
> that should be a JIRA ticket? I can take care of it.
>
> It will also be good to have a clear definition of who a contributor is.
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks
> Suresh
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Gunnar Tapper <ta...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I find THREE places where contributors are recorded:
> >
> > 1. Master pom.xml
> > 2. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> > 3. http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html
> >
> > Which one is the most accurate?
> >
> > --
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gunnar
> > *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
> >
>
--
Thanks,
Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
Re: Which contributor list is accurate?
Posted by Suresh Subbiah <su...@gmail.com>.
Hi Gunnar,
The mentor and committer list at bullet item 3) is accurate. Roberta
updated it recently.
The contributor list in bullet item 2) is the best we have, though I would
like to go through it once more time and compare with JIRA, github & email.
We have not maintained bullet item 1 for a while. If it should be, maybe
that should be a JIRA ticket? I can take care of it.
It will also be good to have a clear definition of who a contributor is.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Suresh
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Gunnar Tapper <ta...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I find THREE places where contributors are recorded:
>
> 1. Master pom.xml
> 2. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Contributors
> 3. http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html
>
> Which one is the most accurate?
>
> --
> Thanks,
>
> Gunnar
> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>