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Re: Hosting a public archiva?

Any further plans on this?

On 25/07/2008, at 3:08 PM, Brett Porter wrote:

> I think this is a great idea.
>
> We should just start by serving the Apache repositories (snapshots  
> and releases), which we can rsync to the machine running Archiva. I  
> don't think proxying makes much sense.
>
> Syncing in central as well is an option, we just need to be careful  
> that we'd just be a pure mirror, and need to ensure it doesn't look  
> like an Apache distribution point.
>
> Also, we'd need to make sure this doesn't get frequently used as a  
> Maven download point, for a couple of reasons: bandwidth use, and  
> because we have to be free to take this down from time to time.
>
> Here are some options for hosting it:
> - as part of the vmbuild infrastructure
> - request a new zone
>
> Cheers,
> Brett
>
> On 23/07/2008, at 4:40 PM, Maria Odea Ching wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I agree this would surely be an issue but we need to have the  
>> repo &
>> Archiva on the same machine in order to provide the search.. so if  
>> we'll be
>> setting
>> up our public Archiva in ASF, we would only be able to host the ASF- 
>> licensed
>>
>> artifacts. The other alternative would be what James suggested  
>> below..
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:17 PM, James William Dumay <james@atlassian.com 
>> >
>> wrote:
>> Deng,
>> Perhaps we could all pitch in for a cheap linode vm to host it on?
>>
>> James
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Deng
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:21 PM, John Tolentino <john.tolentino@gmail.com 
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> if it only indexes the artifacts i don't think there are problems  
>>> with
>>> that.
>>> hosting the artifacts in the server though is a different matter.  
>>> like what
>>> nicholas mentioned about licenses.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Maria Odea Ching  
>>> <oc...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 1:28 PM, nicolas de loof <nicolas@apache.org 
>>>> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It could also host the snapshot and incubator repository.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yep, +1 :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure the apache rules allow us to host non-apache licensed  
>>>>> stuff,
>>> but
>>>>> it
>>>>> could also proxy other common public repos (codehaus snapshtos,
>>> java.net
>>>> ,
>>>>> maybe jbosss ?) to create a nice search engine
>>>>>
>>>>> 2008/7/23 John Tolentino <jo...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Deng,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Will this Archiva instance serve just as an index of artifacts or
>>> will
>>>> it
>>>>>> also serve as a proxy?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't think we should actually use it for proxying, but more of  
>>>> like a
>>>> mirror repository so
>>>> that we could index it and perform searches against it :)
>>>>
>>>> -Deng
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Fabrice Bellingard <
>>>>> bellingard@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>> It's always good to show that we're eating our own dog food :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Fabrice
>>>>>>> bellingard@apache.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Maria Odea Ching <
>>> oching@apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think it has been mentioned way back in IRC that we should  
>>>>>>>> host
>>> a
>>>>>>> public
>>>>>>>> Archiva.. and I think now is a good time to do this with 1.1  
>>>>>>>> just
>>>> out
>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>> We could set it up to index repo1 (or a mirror of it) so people
>>>> could
>>>>>>>> actually use it for searching artifacts and also as a live demo
>>>> which
>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>> could try out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thoughts anyone?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Some concerns/questions that I currently have for this are..
>>> Where
>>>> do
>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>> this up? Can we use ASF's infra (like for Continuum in  
>>>>>>>> vmbuild)?
>>>>>>>> Can anyone more familiar with the ASF processes/rules shed some
>>>> light
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> these? :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Deng
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
> --
> Brett Porter
> brett@apache.org
> http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/
>

--
Brett Porter
brett@apache.org
http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/


Re: Hosting a public archiva?

Posted by Maria Odea Ching <oc...@apache.org>.
Thanks for setting it up Brett :)
Sorry, I haven't been able to work on this. I'll send an email in the next
few days to the infra team/list to inquire if and how we can set up an
Archiva instance to host the Apache repos.

Thanks,
Deng

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:

> I've set up 1.1.2 on vmbuild.apache.org.
>
> This will just contain whatever is proxied into the Continuum server going
> forward, not a full copy. It might be a useful starting point though - and
> is probably also useful for deploying CI snapshots to (and managing them
> using the purge features).
>
> Cheers,
> Brett
>
>
> On 04/09/2008, at 12:40 PM, Brett Porter wrote:
>
>
>> On 26/08/2008, at 4:36 PM, Maria Odea Ching wrote:
>>
>>  Yep, I just saw Gwen submit a patch for MRM-90 (advanced search options)
>>> yesterday which would be an advantageous feature for a public Archiva.. I
>>> haven't taken a close look at the patch yet but if we can include that
>>> feature in the next release, I was thinking we use that next release for
>>> the
>>> public Archiva (though 1.1.1 is also good to go I think).
>>>
>>
>> Yeah, we can always upgrade.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Btw, do we need to formally ask permission from or coordinate with the
>>> ASF
>>> or the infra team to set up Archiva to serve the Apache repos? :)
>>>
>>
>> Depends on where and what role we want to have it play.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Deng
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Any further plans on this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 25/07/2008, at 3:08 PM, Brett Porter wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think this is a great idea.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We should just start by serving the Apache repositories (snapshots and
>>>>> releases), which we can rsync to the machine running Archiva. I don't
>>>>> think
>>>>> proxying makes much sense.
>>>>>
>>>>> Syncing in central as well is an option, we just need to be careful
>>>>> that
>>>>> we'd just be a pure mirror, and need to ensure it doesn't look like an
>>>>> Apache distribution point.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, we'd need to make sure this doesn't get frequently used as a
>>>>> Maven
>>>>> download point, for a couple of reasons: bandwidth use, and because we
>>>>> have
>>>>> to be free to take this down from time to time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are some options for hosting it:
>>>>> - as part of the vmbuild infrastructure
>>>>> - request a new zone
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Brett
>>>>>
>>>>> On 23/07/2008, at 4:40 PM, Maria Odea Ching wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, I agree this would surely be an issue but we need to have the
>>>>> repo
>>>>>
>>>>>> &
>>>>>> Archiva on the same machine in order to provide the search.. so if
>>>>>> we'll
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> setting
>>>>>> up our public Archiva in ASF, we would only be able to host the
>>>>>> ASF-licensed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> artifacts. The other alternative would be what James suggested below..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:17 PM, James William Dumay <
>>>>>> james@atlassian.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Deng,
>>>>>> Perhaps we could all pitch in for a cheap linode vm to host it on?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> James
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Deng
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:21 PM, John Tolentino <
>>>>>> john.tolentino@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> if it only indexes the artifacts i don't think there are problems with
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>> hosting the artifacts in the server though is a different matter.
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>> nicholas mentioned about licenses.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Maria Odea Ching <oching@apache.org
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 1:28 PM, nicolas de loof <nicolas@apache.org
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It could also host the snapshot and incubator repository.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yep, +1 :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not sure the apache rules allow us to host non-apache licensed
>>>>>>>>> stuff,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  but
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  it
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> could also proxy other common public repos (codehaus snapshtos,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  java.net
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  ,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  maybe jbosss ?) to create a nice search engine
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2008/7/23 John Tolentino <jo...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Deng,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Will this Archiva instance serve just as an index of artifacts or
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  will
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  it
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  also serve as a proxy?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  I don't think we should actually use it for proxying, but more of
>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> mirror repository so
>>>>>>>> that we could index it and perform searches against it :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Deng
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Fabrice Bellingard <
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  bellingard@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's always good to show that we're eating our own dog food :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - Fabrice
>>>>>>>>>>> bellingard@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Maria Odea Ching <
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  oching@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it has been mentioned way back in IRC that we should
>>>>>>>>>>>> host
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  a
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  public
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Archiva.. and I think now is a good time to do this with 1.1
>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  out
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  We could set it up to index repo1 (or a mirror of it) so people
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  could
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  actually use it for searching artifacts and also as a live demo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  which
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  people
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> could try out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts anyone?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Some concerns/questions that I currently have for this are..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Where
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  do
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  we
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  set
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> this up? Can we use ASF's infra (like for Continuum in vmbuild)?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone more familiar with the ASF processes/rules shed some
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  light
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  on
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  these? :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Deng
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  --
>>>>> Brett Porter
>>>>> brett@apache.org
>>>>> http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  --
>>>> Brett Porter
>>>> brett@apache.org
>>>> http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> --
>> Brett Porter
>> brett@apache.org
>> http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/
>>
>>
> --
> Brett Porter
> brett@apache.org
> http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/
>
>

Re: Hosting a public archiva?

Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
I've set up 1.1.2 on vmbuild.apache.org.

This will just contain whatever is proxied into the Continuum server  
going forward, not a full copy. It might be a useful starting point  
though - and is probably also useful for deploying CI snapshots to  
(and managing them using the purge features).

Cheers,
Brett

On 04/09/2008, at 12:40 PM, Brett Porter wrote:

>
> On 26/08/2008, at 4:36 PM, Maria Odea Ching wrote:
>
>> Yep, I just saw Gwen submit a patch for MRM-90 (advanced search  
>> options)
>> yesterday which would be an advantageous feature for a public  
>> Archiva.. I
>> haven't taken a close look at the patch yet but if we can include  
>> that
>> feature in the next release, I was thinking we use that next  
>> release for the
>> public Archiva (though 1.1.1 is also good to go I think).
>
> Yeah, we can always upgrade.
>
>>
>>
>> Btw, do we need to formally ask permission from or coordinate with  
>> the ASF
>> or the infra team to set up Archiva to serve the Apache repos? :)
>
> Depends on where and what role we want to have it play.
>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Deng
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Any further plans on this?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 25/07/2008, at 3:08 PM, Brett Porter wrote:
>>>
>>> I think this is a great idea.
>>>>
>>>> We should just start by serving the Apache repositories  
>>>> (snapshots and
>>>> releases), which we can rsync to the machine running Archiva. I  
>>>> don't think
>>>> proxying makes much sense.
>>>>
>>>> Syncing in central as well is an option, we just need to be  
>>>> careful that
>>>> we'd just be a pure mirror, and need to ensure it doesn't look  
>>>> like an
>>>> Apache distribution point.
>>>>
>>>> Also, we'd need to make sure this doesn't get frequently used as  
>>>> a Maven
>>>> download point, for a couple of reasons: bandwidth use, and  
>>>> because we have
>>>> to be free to take this down from time to time.
>>>>
>>>> Here are some options for hosting it:
>>>> - as part of the vmbuild infrastructure
>>>> - request a new zone
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Brett
>>>>
>>>> On 23/07/2008, at 4:40 PM, Maria Odea Ching wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, I agree this would surely be an issue but we need to have  
>>>> the repo
>>>>> &
>>>>> Archiva on the same machine in order to provide the search.. so  
>>>>> if we'll
>>>>> be
>>>>> setting
>>>>> up our public Archiva in ASF, we would only be able to host the
>>>>> ASF-licensed
>>>>>
>>>>> artifacts. The other alternative would be what James suggested  
>>>>> below..
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:17 PM, James William Dumay <
>>>>> james@atlassian.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Deng,
>>>>> Perhaps we could all pitch in for a cheap linode vm to host it on?
>>>>>
>>>>> James
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Deng
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:21 PM, John Tolentino <
>>>>> john.tolentino@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> if it only indexes the artifacts i don't think there are  
>>>>> problems with
>>>>>> that.
>>>>>> hosting the artifacts in the server though is a different  
>>>>>> matter. like
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> nicholas mentioned about licenses.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Maria Odea Ching <oching@apache.org 
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 1:28 PM, nicolas de loof <nicolas@apache.org 
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It could also host the snapshot and incubator repository.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep, +1 :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not sure the apache rules allow us to host non-apache  
>>>>>>>> licensed stuff,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> could also proxy other common public repos (codehaus snapshtos,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> java.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> maybe jbosss ?) to create a nice search engine
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2008/7/23 John Tolentino <jo...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Deng,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Will this Archiva instance serve just as an index of  
>>>>>>>>> artifacts or
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> also serve as a proxy?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't think we should actually use it for proxying, but more  
>>>>>>> of like
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> mirror repository so
>>>>>>> that we could index it and perform searches against it :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Deng
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Fabrice Bellingard <
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> bellingard@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>> It's always good to show that we're eating our own dog  
>>>>>>>>>> food :-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - Fabrice
>>>>>>>>>> bellingard@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Maria Odea Ching <
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> oching@apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think it has been mentioned way back in IRC that we  
>>>>>>>>>>> should host
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> public
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Archiva.. and I think now is a good time to do this with  
>>>>>>>>>>> 1.1 just
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We could set it up to index repo1 (or a mirror of it) so  
>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> actually use it for searching artifacts and also as a live demo
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>> could try out.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts anyone?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Some concerns/questions that I currently have for this are..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Where
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>>> this up? Can we use ASF's infra (like for Continuum in  
>>>>>>>>>>> vmbuild)?
>>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone more familiar with the ASF processes/rules shed  
>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> light
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> these? :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Deng
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Brett Porter
>>>> brett@apache.org
>>>> http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Brett Porter
>>> brett@apache.org
>>> http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/
>>>
>>>
>
> --
> Brett Porter
> brett@apache.org
> http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/
>

--
Brett Porter
brett@apache.org
http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/


Re: Hosting a public archiva?

Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
On 26/08/2008, at 4:36 PM, Maria Odea Ching wrote:

> Yep, I just saw Gwen submit a patch for MRM-90 (advanced search  
> options)
> yesterday which would be an advantageous feature for a public  
> Archiva.. I
> haven't taken a close look at the patch yet but if we can include that
> feature in the next release, I was thinking we use that next release  
> for the
> public Archiva (though 1.1.1 is also good to go I think).

Yeah, we can always upgrade.

>
>
> Btw, do we need to formally ask permission from or coordinate with  
> the ASF
> or the infra team to set up Archiva to serve the Apache repos? :)

Depends on where and what role we want to have it play.

>
>
> Thanks,
> Deng
>
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>  
> wrote:
>
>> Any further plans on this?
>>
>>
>> On 25/07/2008, at 3:08 PM, Brett Porter wrote:
>>
>> I think this is a great idea.
>>>
>>> We should just start by serving the Apache repositories (snapshots  
>>> and
>>> releases), which we can rsync to the machine running Archiva. I  
>>> don't think
>>> proxying makes much sense.
>>>
>>> Syncing in central as well is an option, we just need to be  
>>> careful that
>>> we'd just be a pure mirror, and need to ensure it doesn't look  
>>> like an
>>> Apache distribution point.
>>>
>>> Also, we'd need to make sure this doesn't get frequently used as a  
>>> Maven
>>> download point, for a couple of reasons: bandwidth use, and  
>>> because we have
>>> to be free to take this down from time to time.
>>>
>>> Here are some options for hosting it:
>>> - as part of the vmbuild infrastructure
>>> - request a new zone
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Brett
>>>
>>> On 23/07/2008, at 4:40 PM, Maria Odea Ching wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah, I agree this would surely be an issue but we need to have  
>>> the repo
>>>> &
>>>> Archiva on the same machine in order to provide the search.. so  
>>>> if we'll
>>>> be
>>>> setting
>>>> up our public Archiva in ASF, we would only be able to host the
>>>> ASF-licensed
>>>>
>>>> artifacts. The other alternative would be what James suggested  
>>>> below..
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:17 PM, James William Dumay <
>>>> james@atlassian.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Deng,
>>>> Perhaps we could all pitch in for a cheap linode vm to host it on?
>>>>
>>>> James
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Deng
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:21 PM, John Tolentino <
>>>> john.tolentino@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> if it only indexes the artifacts i don't think there are problems  
>>>> with
>>>>> that.
>>>>> hosting the artifacts in the server though is a different  
>>>>> matter. like
>>>>> what
>>>>> nicholas mentioned about licenses.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Maria Odea Ching <oching@apache.org 
>>>>> >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 1:28 PM, nicolas de loof <nicolas@apache.org 
>>>>> >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It could also host the snapshot and incubator repository.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep, +1 :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not sure the apache rules allow us to host non-apache licensed  
>>>>>>> stuff,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> but
>>>>>
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> could also proxy other common public repos (codehaus snapshtos,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> java.net
>>>>>
>>>>>> ,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> maybe jbosss ?) to create a nice search engine
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2008/7/23 John Tolentino <jo...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Deng,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Will this Archiva instance serve just as an index of  
>>>>>>>> artifacts or
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> also serve as a proxy?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think we should actually use it for proxying, but more  
>>>>>> of like
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> mirror repository so
>>>>>> that we could index it and perform searches against it :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Deng
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Fabrice Bellingard <
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bellingard@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>> It's always good to show that we're eating our own dog  
>>>>>>>>> food :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Fabrice
>>>>>>>>> bellingard@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Maria Odea Ching <
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> oching@apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think it has been mentioned way back in IRC that we  
>>>>>>>>>> should host
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>
>>>>>> public
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Archiva.. and I think now is a good time to do this with  
>>>>>>>>>> 1.1 just
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We could set it up to index repo1 (or a mirror of it) so  
>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> actually use it for searching artifacts and also as a live demo
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>> could try out.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts anyone?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Some concerns/questions that I currently have for this are..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Where
>>>>>
>>>>>> do
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>> this up? Can we use ASF's infra (like for Continuum in  
>>>>>>>>>> vmbuild)?
>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone more familiar with the ASF processes/rules shed  
>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> light
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> these? :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Deng
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> --
>>> Brett Porter
>>> brett@apache.org
>>> http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Brett Porter
>> brett@apache.org
>> http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/
>>
>>

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Re: Hosting a public archiva?

Posted by Maria Odea Ching <oc...@apache.org>.
Yep, I just saw Gwen submit a patch for MRM-90 (advanced search options)
yesterday which would be an advantageous feature for a public Archiva.. I
haven't taken a close look at the patch yet but if we can include that
feature in the next release, I was thinking we use that next release for the
public Archiva (though 1.1.1 is also good to go I think).

Btw, do we need to formally ask permission from or coordinate with the ASF
or the infra team to set up Archiva to serve the Apache repos? :)

Thanks,
Deng

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:

> Any further plans on this?
>
>
> On 25/07/2008, at 3:08 PM, Brett Porter wrote:
>
>  I think this is a great idea.
>>
>> We should just start by serving the Apache repositories (snapshots and
>> releases), which we can rsync to the machine running Archiva. I don't think
>> proxying makes much sense.
>>
>> Syncing in central as well is an option, we just need to be careful that
>> we'd just be a pure mirror, and need to ensure it doesn't look like an
>> Apache distribution point.
>>
>> Also, we'd need to make sure this doesn't get frequently used as a Maven
>> download point, for a couple of reasons: bandwidth use, and because we have
>> to be free to take this down from time to time.
>>
>> Here are some options for hosting it:
>> - as part of the vmbuild infrastructure
>> - request a new zone
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Brett
>>
>> On 23/07/2008, at 4:40 PM, Maria Odea Ching wrote:
>>
>>  Yeah, I agree this would surely be an issue but we need to have the repo
>>> &
>>> Archiva on the same machine in order to provide the search.. so if we'll
>>> be
>>> setting
>>> up our public Archiva in ASF, we would only be able to host the
>>> ASF-licensed
>>>
>>> artifacts. The other alternative would be what James suggested below..
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:17 PM, James William Dumay <
>>> james@atlassian.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> Deng,
>>> Perhaps we could all pitch in for a cheap linode vm to host it on?
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Deng
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:21 PM, John Tolentino <
>>> john.tolentino@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  if it only indexes the artifacts i don't think there are problems with
>>>> that.
>>>> hosting the artifacts in the server though is a different matter. like
>>>> what
>>>> nicholas mentioned about licenses.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Maria Odea Ching <oc...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 1:28 PM, nicolas de loof <ni...@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  It could also host the snapshot and incubator repository.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, +1 :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not sure the apache rules allow us to host non-apache licensed stuff,
>>>>>>
>>>>> but
>>>>
>>>>> it
>>>>>> could also proxy other common public repos (codehaus snapshtos,
>>>>>>
>>>>> java.net
>>>>
>>>>> ,
>>>>>
>>>>>> maybe jbosss ?) to create a nice search engine
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2008/7/23 John Tolentino <jo...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Hi Deng,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Will this Archiva instance serve just as an index of artifacts or
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> will
>>>>
>>>>> it
>>>>>
>>>>>> also serve as a proxy?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think we should actually use it for proxying, but more of like
>>>>> a
>>>>> mirror repository so
>>>>> that we could index it and perform searches against it :)
>>>>>
>>>>> -Deng
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Fabrice Bellingard <
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> bellingard@gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  +1
>>>>>>>> It's always good to show that we're eating our own dog food :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Fabrice
>>>>>>>> bellingard@apache.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Maria Odea Ching <
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> oching@apache.org
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think it has been mentioned way back in IRC that we should host
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>
>>>>> public
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Archiva.. and I think now is a good time to do this with 1.1 just
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>
>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We could set it up to index repo1 (or a mirror of it) so people
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>
>>>>>> actually use it for searching artifacts and also as a live demo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>
>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>> could try out.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thoughts anyone?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Some concerns/questions that I currently have for this are..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Where
>>>>
>>>>> do
>>>>>
>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>> this up? Can we use ASF's infra (like for Continuum in vmbuild)?
>>>>>>>>> Can anyone more familiar with the ASF processes/rules shed some
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> light
>>>>>
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> these? :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Deng
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>> --
>> Brett Porter
>> brett@apache.org
>> http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/
>>
>>
> --
> Brett Porter
> brett@apache.org
> http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/
>
>