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Posted to users@tapestry.apache.org by Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com> on 2013/05/28 22:28:30 UTC
5.4-alpha-4 preview release
For all you early adopters ...
5.4-alpha-4 preview release is now available
Maven Repository:
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachetapestry-019/
Big improvements:
- URLs for compressed assets are now separate from uncompressed assets
- Many problems with CSS url() rewriting have been fixed
- new tapestry-wro4j library for runtime:
- CoffeeScript to JavaScript compilation
- Less to CSS compilation
- JavaScript minimization
- CSS minimization
--
Howard M. Lewis Ship
Creator of Apache Tapestry
The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to
learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast!
(971) 678-5210
http://howardlewisship.com
RE: 5.4-alpha-4 preview release
Posted by Nomen Nomanum <ge...@outlook.com>.
Sorry, it took me ages before I could retrieve this mail to see new posts and reply. What I meant by dual modding is the ability for any Tapestry user to use whatever JS framework he or she likes. There were rumours that in Tap5.4 Prototype will be once and for all put out of focus, and Prototype activities would be replaced by JQuery. That is what I meant, hope it is now more clear. :)
> Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 19:16:57 -0500
> Subject: Re: 5.4-alpha-4 preview release
> From: trsvax@gmail.com
> To: users@tapestry.apache.org
>
> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I had one problem getting it to run. I had to add
> > >
> > > <dependency>
> > >
> > > <groupId>org.slf4j</groupId>
> > >
> > > <artifactId>slf4j-log4j12</artifactId>
> > >
> > > <version>1.7.2</version>
> > >
> > > </dependency>
> > >
> > >
> > > to my pom file. It appears to be in tapestry-core but marked test.
> > >
> > >
> > This has been going back and forth; the idea is to not lock you into a
> > particular SLF4J implementation, at the expense of making you select one.
> > If this was included as a core dependency and you wanted to switch to, say,
> > logback, you would have to exclude this dependency then include logback.
> > The Maven archetype will include a specific SLF4J implementation.
> >
> >
> In general I would prefer things work out of the box and exclude the
> dependency if needed, but it did not take too long to figure out the
> problem.
>
>
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I tried BeanEditForm and have a question about it. Unfortunately
> > Bootstrap
> > > changes the markup for forms when the class is form-horizontal. It
> > appears
> > > BeanEditForm always outputs the markup for form-horizontal so the other
> > > form styles do not work correctly.
> > >
> > >
> > More information on that would be great.
> >
>
> Basic forms in Bootstrap have little to no extra markup. The example has
>
> http://twitter.github.io/bootstrap/base-css.html#forms
>
>
> 1. <form>
> 2. <fieldset>
> 3. <legend>Legend</legend>
> 4. <label>Label name</label>
> 5. <input type="text" placeholder="Type something…">
> 6. <span class="help-block">Example block-level help text here.</span>
> 7. <label class="checkbox">
> 8. <input type="checkbox"> Check me out
> 9. </label>
> 10. <button type="submit" class="btn">Submit</button>
> 11. </fieldset>
> 12. </form>
>
>
> Only the form-horizontal has the extra control group
>
> 1. <div class="control-group">
> 2. <label class="control-label" for="inputPassword">Password</label>
> 3. <div class="controls">
> 4. <input type="password" id="inputPassword" placeholder="Password">
> 5. </div>
> 6. </div>
> 7. <div class="control-group">
> 8. <div class="controls">
> 9. <label class="checkbox">
> 10. <input type="checkbox"> Remember me
> 11. </label>
> 12. <button type="submit" class="btn">Sign in</button>
> 13. </div>
> 14. </div>
>
>
> While the simple forms work with the control group the extra tags change
> the output format. This means the output of each property in the BeanEditor
> is dependent on the class parameter to BeanEditForm or Form. I guess the
> class could be added to FormSupport so the underlying parameters could
> render differently depending on the class. Also just to make things more
> difficult notice how the label for the checkbox spans the input but the
> textfield label does not.
>
> On my Bootstrap module I did all this using the DOM and a visitor, but if
> you are creating components from scratch I don't think I would do it that
> way.
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > > I'll try and build something real this weekend.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Barry
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > For all you early adopters ...
> > > >
> > > > 5.4-alpha-4 preview release is now available
> > > >
> > > > Maven Repository:
> > > >
> > >
> > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachetapestry-019/
> > > >
> > > > Big improvements:
> > > >
> > > > - URLs for compressed assets are now separate from uncompressed assets
> > > > - Many problems with CSS url() rewriting have been fixed
> > > > - new tapestry-wro4j library for runtime:
> > > > - CoffeeScript to JavaScript compilation
> > > > - Less to CSS compilation
> > > > - JavaScript minimization
> > > > - CSS minimization
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Howard M. Lewis Ship
> > > >
> > > > Creator of Apache Tapestry
> > > >
> > > > The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to
> > > > learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast!
> > > >
> > > > (971) 678-5210
> > > > http://howardlewisship.com
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Howard M. Lewis Ship
> >
> > Creator of Apache Tapestry
> >
> > The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to
> > learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast!
> >
> > (971) 678-5210
> > http://howardlewisship.com
> >
Re: 5.4-alpha-4 preview release
Posted by Barry Books <tr...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
> >
> > I had one problem getting it to run. I had to add
> >
> > <dependency>
> >
> > <groupId>org.slf4j</groupId>
> >
> > <artifactId>slf4j-log4j12</artifactId>
> >
> > <version>1.7.2</version>
> >
> > </dependency>
> >
> >
> > to my pom file. It appears to be in tapestry-core but marked test.
> >
> >
> This has been going back and forth; the idea is to not lock you into a
> particular SLF4J implementation, at the expense of making you select one.
> If this was included as a core dependency and you wanted to switch to, say,
> logback, you would have to exclude this dependency then include logback.
> The Maven archetype will include a specific SLF4J implementation.
>
>
In general I would prefer things work out of the box and exclude the
dependency if needed, but it did not take too long to figure out the
problem.
>
>
> >
> > I tried BeanEditForm and have a question about it. Unfortunately
> Bootstrap
> > changes the markup for forms when the class is form-horizontal. It
> appears
> > BeanEditForm always outputs the markup for form-horizontal so the other
> > form styles do not work correctly.
> >
> >
> More information on that would be great.
>
Basic forms in Bootstrap have little to no extra markup. The example has
http://twitter.github.io/bootstrap/base-css.html#forms
1. <form>
2. <fieldset>
3. <legend>Legend</legend>
4. <label>Label name</label>
5. <input type="text" placeholder="Type something…">
6. <span class="help-block">Example block-level help text here.</span>
7. <label class="checkbox">
8. <input type="checkbox"> Check me out
9. </label>
10. <button type="submit" class="btn">Submit</button>
11. </fieldset>
12. </form>
Only the form-horizontal has the extra control group
1. <div class="control-group">
2. <label class="control-label" for="inputPassword">Password</label>
3. <div class="controls">
4. <input type="password" id="inputPassword" placeholder="Password">
5. </div>
6. </div>
7. <div class="control-group">
8. <div class="controls">
9. <label class="checkbox">
10. <input type="checkbox"> Remember me
11. </label>
12. <button type="submit" class="btn">Sign in</button>
13. </div>
14. </div>
While the simple forms work with the control group the extra tags change
the output format. This means the output of each property in the BeanEditor
is dependent on the class parameter to BeanEditForm or Form. I guess the
class could be added to FormSupport so the underlying parameters could
render differently depending on the class. Also just to make things more
difficult notice how the label for the checkbox spans the input but the
textfield label does not.
On my Bootstrap module I did all this using the DOM and a visitor, but if
you are creating components from scratch I don't think I would do it that
way.
>
>
>
> > I'll try and build something real this weekend.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Barry
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > For all you early adopters ...
> > >
> > > 5.4-alpha-4 preview release is now available
> > >
> > > Maven Repository:
> > >
> >
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachetapestry-019/
> > >
> > > Big improvements:
> > >
> > > - URLs for compressed assets are now separate from uncompressed assets
> > > - Many problems with CSS url() rewriting have been fixed
> > > - new tapestry-wro4j library for runtime:
> > > - CoffeeScript to JavaScript compilation
> > > - Less to CSS compilation
> > > - JavaScript minimization
> > > - CSS minimization
> > >
> > > --
> > > Howard M. Lewis Ship
> > >
> > > Creator of Apache Tapestry
> > >
> > > The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to
> > > learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast!
> > >
> > > (971) 678-5210
> > > http://howardlewisship.com
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Howard M. Lewis Ship
>
> Creator of Apache Tapestry
>
> The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to
> learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast!
>
> (971) 678-5210
> http://howardlewisship.com
>
Re: 5.4-alpha-4 preview release
Posted by Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>.
FYI, due to some minor problems in alpha-4, I'm working on alpha-5 right
now.
I'm starting the work of porting a very large 5.3 app to 5.4.
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:31 AM, Barry Books <tr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tried it out this morning, here is my quick assessment:
>
> I like the new asset paths. I'll try and build an Amazon CloudFront CDN
> this week. I did notice the scripts included by require.js do not have the
> checksums in the urls. Is that correct?
>
Yes, for modules, there is no checksum in the URL, but there is an ETag
containing the checksum. On the client side, we start knowing only the
module's name ("i.e., "t5/core/events"); without the file content we can't
generate the checksum.
Eventually, I'll include a mechanism to aggregate specific modules into the
JavaScript stack.
>
> I had one problem getting it to run. I had to add
>
> <dependency>
>
> <groupId>org.slf4j</groupId>
>
> <artifactId>slf4j-log4j12</artifactId>
>
> <version>1.7.2</version>
>
> </dependency>
>
>
> to my pom file. It appears to be in tapestry-core but marked test.
>
>
This has been going back and forth; the idea is to not lock you into a
particular SLF4J implementation, at the expense of making you select one.
If this was included as a core dependency and you wanted to switch to, say,
logback, you would have to exclude this dependency then include logback.
The Maven archetype will include a specific SLF4J implementation.
> I tried Grid with a few Bootstrap styles and it did what I expected. I'm a
> big fan of the new Bootstrap css.
>
As am I!
>
> I tried BeanEditForm and have a question about it. Unfortunately Bootstrap
> changes the markup for forms when the class is form-horizontal. It appears
> BeanEditForm always outputs the markup for form-horizontal so the other
> form styles do not work correctly.
>
>
More information on that would be great.
> I'll try and build something real this weekend.
>
> Thanks
> Barry
>
>
> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > For all you early adopters ...
> >
> > 5.4-alpha-4 preview release is now available
> >
> > Maven Repository:
> >
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachetapestry-019/
> >
> > Big improvements:
> >
> > - URLs for compressed assets are now separate from uncompressed assets
> > - Many problems with CSS url() rewriting have been fixed
> > - new tapestry-wro4j library for runtime:
> > - CoffeeScript to JavaScript compilation
> > - Less to CSS compilation
> > - JavaScript minimization
> > - CSS minimization
> >
> > --
> > Howard M. Lewis Ship
> >
> > Creator of Apache Tapestry
> >
> > The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to
> > learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast!
> >
> > (971) 678-5210
> > http://howardlewisship.com
> >
>
--
Howard M. Lewis Ship
Creator of Apache Tapestry
The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to
learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast!
(971) 678-5210
http://howardlewisship.com
Re: 5.4-alpha-4 preview release
Posted by Barry Books <tr...@gmail.com>.
Tried it out this morning, here is my quick assessment:
I like the new asset paths. I'll try and build an Amazon CloudFront CDN
this week. I did notice the scripts included by require.js do not have the
checksums in the urls. Is that correct?
I had one problem getting it to run. I had to add
<dependency>
<groupId>org.slf4j</groupId>
<artifactId>slf4j-log4j12</artifactId>
<version>1.7.2</version>
</dependency>
to my pom file. It appears to be in tapestry-core but marked test.
I tried Grid with a few Bootstrap styles and it did what I expected. I'm a
big fan of the new Bootstrap css.
I tried BeanEditForm and have a question about it. Unfortunately Bootstrap
changes the markup for forms when the class is form-horizontal. It appears
BeanEditForm always outputs the markup for form-horizontal so the other
form styles do not work correctly.
I'll try and build something real this weekend.
Thanks
Barry
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For all you early adopters ...
>
> 5.4-alpha-4 preview release is now available
>
> Maven Repository:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachetapestry-019/
>
> Big improvements:
>
> - URLs for compressed assets are now separate from uncompressed assets
> - Many problems with CSS url() rewriting have been fixed
> - new tapestry-wro4j library for runtime:
> - CoffeeScript to JavaScript compilation
> - Less to CSS compilation
> - JavaScript minimization
> - CSS minimization
>
> --
> Howard M. Lewis Ship
>
> Creator of Apache Tapestry
>
> The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to
> learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast!
>
> (971) 678-5210
> http://howardlewisship.com
>