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[Bug 124034] New: merging cells with move to 1st cell resets format

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124034

            Bug ID: 124034
        Issue Type: DEFECT
           Summary: merging cells with move to 1st cell resets format
           Product: Calc
           Version: 4.0.1
          Hardware: All
                OS: All
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: editing
          Assignee: issues@openoffice.apache.org
          Reporter: TorrAB@Yahoo.com
                CC: issues@openoffice.apache.org

Created attachment 82301
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cells to merge

In MergB.ods, highlight cells A1:B1, click merge. Popup: 'Should[..]into the
first cell?'. Choose Yes. Format (Text size and alignment) has been changed to
default --it should not.
    Indeed, format is preserved when merging A2:B2, in which case there is no
popup.
    May be related to Bug 114357.

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[Bug 124034] merging cells with move to 1st cell resets format

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124034

TAB <To...@Yahoo.com> changed:

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--- Comment #1 from TAB <To...@Yahoo.com> ---
Created attachment 82302
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cells to merge --updated

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[Bug 124034] merging cells with move to 1st cell resets format

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124034

--- Comment #4 from Rainer Bielefeld <ra...@bielefeldundbuss.de> ---
Created attachment 82303
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Enhanced Sample Document

See comment above how to use.

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[Bug 124034] merging cells with move to 1st cell resets format

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124034

Rainer Bielefeld <ra...@bielefeldundbuss.de> changed:

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[Bug 124034] merging cells with move to 1st cell resets format

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124034

--- Comment #7 from Rainer Bielefeld <ra...@bielefeldundbuss.de> ---
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Demo Kit

See comment above!

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[Bug 124034] merging cells with move to 1st cell resets format

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124034

TAB <To...@Yahoo.com> changed:

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--- Comment #8 from TAB <To...@Yahoo.com> ---
(In reply to Rainer Bielefeld from comment #7)
    ***I did not understand your arguments a, b, c until I opened your sample:
HowToPredict.ods.
Now, I understand that Calc really merges cells while Excel deletes all but
one!
OK. However, in most cases, the user just wants to make ONE cell larger
--spanning several columns or rows, and expects its format to be preserved. To
reconcile the merge operation with this usual application, I suggest that the
final format be that of the first NON-EMPTY cell --which could be the 1st cell,
but not always. In the case of MergB.ods, merging cells A1:B1 would preserbe
the format of B1.

(d) ...But that is something different from a bugfix.
    ***OK, don't call it a bugfix. Call it an enhancement.

(e) ... do really enough people need that?
    Even I can live without it. But, the above suggestion should be easy to
implement.
        TY.

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[Bug 124034] merging cells with move to 1st cell resets format

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124034

Rainer Bielefeld <ra...@bielefeldundbuss.de> changed:

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         Resolution|---                         |NOT_AN_ISSUE

--- Comment #3 from Rainer Bielefeld <ra...@bielefeldundbuss.de> ---
I can't see a Bug here, but user error. There is not a reset of format/style or
similar. The contents moved to the other cell simply takes the format of the
target cell, that seems intended to me. 

For a test in EnhancedSampleDocument.ods first check styles in Cells A1 and
A14, then merge A1:B1 and "A14:B14". As expected the contents of new merged
cells takes the format of column A cells.

It helps to know some more about merge cell process. As the message box tells,
there will not be a real merging of A1 and B1. In fact size of A1 will be
increased so that it will cover old cell B1. And if you click [Yes] in Message
box, contents of B1 will be transferred to now double width A1.
This knowledge also explains why Merging B1:C1 will not show Style "demo" of C1
in new merged cell. After merge new double width B1 simply will cover cell C1
with styles frills.

But indeed, Help contents is really poor, I will submit a new bug and add you
to CC.

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[Bug 124034] merging cells with move to 1st cell resets format

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124034

TAB <To...@Yahoo.com> changed:

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--- Comment #5 from TAB <To...@Yahoo.com> ---
(In reply to Rainer Bielefeld from comment #3)
> I can't see a Bug here, but user error. There is not a reset of format/style
> or similar. The contents moved to the other cell simply takes the format of
> the target cell, that seems intended to me. 

Really? It's neither intended nor expected. Copy (^c) cell B1 and paste it (^v)
to another cell, say B3 or C3, currently default-formatted: the copy does not
'simply take the format of the target cell'; instead, the B1 format overrides
the default format.
The same thing happens in Writer: if one pastes a string into an empty
paragraph, the string format overrides the empty-paragraph style.

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[Bug 124034] merging cells with move to 1st cell resets format

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124034

Edwin Sharp <el...@apache.org> changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Edwin Sharp <el...@apache.org> ---
Confirmed with
AOO410m1(Build:9750)  -  Rev. 1558424
Rev.1558424
Win 7

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[Bug 124034] merging cells with move to 1st cell resets format

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124034

Rainer Bielefeld <ra...@bielefeldundbuss.de> changed:

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--- Comment #6 from Rainer Bielefeld <ra...@bielefeldundbuss.de> ---
(In reply to TAB from comment #5)
(a) Your examples do not match with things happening when you merge cells, so 
    your argumentation is wrong. If you do things completely different it's
    expected that the result might be different.

(b) The message appearing tells that the merge process will hide some cells 
    and that the contents of those cells what will be hidden can be moved 
    into the first cell A1 (in my first example). 

(c) "Move" from (b) sounds very similar to 'For B1: <control+c> -> click A1
    -> <f2> -> control+v - <Enter>', and the result in A1 proceeding so is
    the same or at least very similar to the result after merge.

(d) of course the behavior is unexpected from point of view of an naive
approach,
    and it is reasonable tho think about a function doing things more
intuitive,
    some new feature SMARTMERGE, results some closer to the cell merge 
    function of Writer
    But that is something different from a bugfix. For that developers would
need
(e) Theory of all
(e1) Real life examples: do really enough people need that? and for what?
(e2) What does ODF specifications tell?
(e3) Situation with competitors (IMHO Excel 2010 only keeps contents of top 
     left cell ...)? 
(e4) and so on.
    If information is available we can rate costs / benefit relation

So closing again, we don't have a bug here

@TAB:
Please feel free to open a separate feature request for your needs.

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