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Posted to marketing@cloudstack.apache.org by David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> on 2014/11/06 18:16:22 UTC
Re: Discover PICO Ikoula's new VM
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Giles Sirett
<gi...@shapeblue.com> wrote:
> Joe
>
> Ikoula are a cloudstack user, based in France, and are good friends of the CloudStack community.
> I think its great to see them developing new services based on Cloudstack and sharing that with the rest of us
>
So I like that they use CloudStack. I like that they are developing
new services, based on CloudStack. I am just not sure how it's
relevant in this particular venue.
Re: Discover PICO Ikoula's new VM
Posted by Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>.
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Mark Hinkle wrote:
> I think any offer or indication of a product or service that features
> CloudStack would be fine to the marketing list.
That depends a bit.
People generally don't sign up for a project marketing list to receive
marketing communication, they sign up to work on marketing for the
project.
Acme Corp sending a note to say "hey, here's how we used CloudStack"
that mentions their final product is great. A sales pitch, not so much,
even if it happens to use CloudStack (or whatever).
> I think this set-off a lot of spam filters because their were 7 image
> attachments.
That certainly didn't help. But 0 mention of CloudStack plus pricing
information looks a lot like spam to me.
> I think a plain text email is preferred since it's a mailing list.
> I think it's cool that a CloudStack-based solution is being promoted here
> or anywhere else and we should welcome that.
Best,
jzb
--
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jzb@zonker.net
Twitter: @jzb
http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
Re: Discover PICO Ikoula's new VM
Posted by Nux! <nu...@li.nux.ro>.
+1 what he said
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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Hinkle" <Ma...@citrix.com>
> To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
> Sent: Thursday, 6 November, 2014 18:05:03
> Subject: Re: Discover PICO Ikoula's new VM
> I think any offer or indication of a product or service that features CloudStack
> would be fine to the marketing list.
> I think this set-off a lot of spam filters because their were 7 image
> attachments.
> I think a plain text email is preferred since it's a mailing list.
> I think it's cool that a CloudStack-based solution is being promoted here or
> anywhere else and we should welcome that.
>
>
> Regards, Mark
>
>
> On Nov 6, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Giles Sirett <gi...@shapeblue.com> wrote:
>
>> No, I doubt anybody on this list is going to rush out and buy an instance from
>> Ikoula. And I agree, that spam is a pain
>>
>> But this is a *marketing* list - and I would love to hear more stories from
>> folks doing things with Cloudstack; if that means hearing some of their
>> gotomarket then so be it. Some will be good, some will be dull and a few may be
>> great. We need to hear those great stories.
>>
>> That email wasn’t sent from a DB, Anne-Claire sent it herself. I guess because
>> she thought people may be interested (and I'm sure she also hopes that some of
>> us may buy something or tell our friends to buy something) and has basically
>> got a message saying "don’t do that again". IMO that is bad form, especially
>> after I pointed out that they are active supporters of this community.
>>
>> So, when Ikoula do announce their *great* thing - we wont hear about it.
>>
>> A while back Anne-Claire sent a similar email (they had been graded as no2 cloud
>> provider in France behind SomebodyiCantRemember). It, too, was just a piece of
>> marketing from them
>>
>> It resulted in this:
>> @Ikoula beat @Cloudwatt in EVERY ranking for French #iaas market.
>> journaldunet.com/solutions/clou…
>> guess what its built on ?
>> #cloudstackworks
>>
>> And also partly contributed to a French journo contacting me to write a piece
>> about Cloudstack
>> http://www.lemondeinformatique.fr/les-dossiers/lire-openstack-clef-de-voute-du-cloud-open-source-666.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards
>> Giles
>>
>> D: +44 20 3603 0541 | M: +44 796 111 2055
>> Giles.Sirett@shapeblue.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Nalley [mailto:david@gnsa.us]
>> Sent: 06 November 2014 17:16
>> To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Discover PICO Ikoula's new VM
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Giles Sirett <gi...@shapeblue.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> Ikoula are a cloudstack user, based in France, and are good friends of the
>>> CloudStack community.
>>> I think its great to see them developing new services based on
>>> Cloudstack and sharing that with the rest of us
>>>
>>
>> So I like that they use CloudStack. I like that they are developing new
>> services, based on CloudStack. I am just not sure how it's relevant in this
>> particular venue.
>> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related services
>>
>> IaaS Cloud Design & Build<http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//>
>> CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework<http://shapeblue.com/csforge/>
>> CloudStack Consulting<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/>
>> CloudStack Infrastructure
>> Support<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/>
>> CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/>
>>
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Re: Discover PICO Ikoula's new VM
Posted by Mark Hinkle <Ma...@citrix.com>.
I think any offer or indication of a product or service that features CloudStack would be fine to the marketing list.
I think this set-off a lot of spam filters because their were 7 image attachments.
I think a plain text email is preferred since it's a mailing list.
I think it's cool that a CloudStack-based solution is being promoted here or anywhere else and we should welcome that.
Regards, Mark
On Nov 6, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Giles Sirett <gi...@shapeblue.com> wrote:
> No, I doubt anybody on this list is going to rush out and buy an instance from Ikoula. And I agree, that spam is a pain
>
> But this is a *marketing* list - and I would love to hear more stories from folks doing things with Cloudstack; if that means hearing some of their gotomarket then so be it. Some will be good, some will be dull and a few may be great. We need to hear those great stories.
>
> That email wasn’t sent from a DB, Anne-Claire sent it herself. I guess because she thought people may be interested (and I'm sure she also hopes that some of us may buy something or tell our friends to buy something) and has basically got a message saying "don’t do that again". IMO that is bad form, especially after I pointed out that they are active supporters of this community.
>
> So, when Ikoula do announce their *great* thing - we wont hear about it.
>
> A while back Anne-Claire sent a similar email (they had been graded as no2 cloud provider in France behind SomebodyiCantRemember). It, too, was just a piece of marketing from them
>
> It resulted in this:
> @Ikoula beat @Cloudwatt in EVERY ranking for French #iaas market.
> journaldunet.com/solutions/clou…
> guess what its built on ?
> #cloudstackworks
>
> And also partly contributed to a French journo contacting me to write a piece about Cloudstack
> http://www.lemondeinformatique.fr/les-dossiers/lire-openstack-clef-de-voute-du-cloud-open-source-666.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Kind Regards
> Giles
>
> D: +44 20 3603 0541 | M: +44 796 111 2055
> Giles.Sirett@shapeblue.com
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Nalley [mailto:david@gnsa.us]
> Sent: 06 November 2014 17:16
> To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Discover PICO Ikoula's new VM
>
> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Giles Sirett <gi...@shapeblue.com> wrote:
>> Joe
>>
>> Ikoula are a cloudstack user, based in France, and are good friends of the CloudStack community.
>> I think its great to see them developing new services based on
>> Cloudstack and sharing that with the rest of us
>>
>
> So I like that they use CloudStack. I like that they are developing new services, based on CloudStack. I am just not sure how it's relevant in this particular venue.
> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related services
>
> IaaS Cloud Design & Build<http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//>
> CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework<http://shapeblue.com/csforge/>
> CloudStack Consulting<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/>
> CloudStack Infrastructure Support<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/>
> CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/>
>
> This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Shape Blue Ltd or related companies. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. Shape Blue Ltd is a company incorporated in England & Wales. ShapeBlue Services India LLP is a company incorporated in India and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. Shape Blue Brasil Consultoria Ltda is a company incorporated in Brasil and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue SA Pty Ltd is a company registered by The Republic of South Africa and is traded under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue is a registered trademark.
RE: Discover PICO Ikoula's new VM
Posted by Giles Sirett <gi...@shapeblue.com>.
No, I doubt anybody on this list is going to rush out and buy an instance from Ikoula. And I agree, that spam is a pain
But this is a *marketing* list - and I would love to hear more stories from folks doing things with Cloudstack; if that means hearing some of their gotomarket then so be it. Some will be good, some will be dull and a few may be great. We need to hear those great stories.
That email wasn’t sent from a DB, Anne-Claire sent it herself. I guess because she thought people may be interested (and I'm sure she also hopes that some of us may buy something or tell our friends to buy something) and has basically got a message saying "don’t do that again". IMO that is bad form, especially after I pointed out that they are active supporters of this community.
So, when Ikoula do announce their *great* thing - we wont hear about it.
A while back Anne-Claire sent a similar email (they had been graded as no2 cloud provider in France behind SomebodyiCantRemember). It, too, was just a piece of marketing from them
It resulted in this:
@Ikoula beat @Cloudwatt in EVERY ranking for French #iaas market.
journaldunet.com/solutions/clou…
guess what its built on ?
#cloudstackworks
And also partly contributed to a French journo contacting me to write a piece about Cloudstack
http://www.lemondeinformatique.fr/les-dossiers/lire-openstack-clef-de-voute-du-cloud-open-source-666.html
Kind Regards
Giles
D: +44 20 3603 0541 | M: +44 796 111 2055
Giles.Sirett@shapeblue.com
-----Original Message-----
From: David Nalley [mailto:david@gnsa.us]
Sent: 06 November 2014 17:16
To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: Discover PICO Ikoula's new VM
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Giles Sirett <gi...@shapeblue.com> wrote:
> Joe
>
> Ikoula are a cloudstack user, based in France, and are good friends of the CloudStack community.
> I think its great to see them developing new services based on
> Cloudstack and sharing that with the rest of us
>
So I like that they use CloudStack. I like that they are developing new services, based on CloudStack. I am just not sure how it's relevant in this particular venue.
Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related services
IaaS Cloud Design & Build<http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//>
CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework<http://shapeblue.com/csforge/>
CloudStack Consulting<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/>
CloudStack Infrastructure Support<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/>
CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/>
This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Shape Blue Ltd or related companies. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. Shape Blue Ltd is a company incorporated in England & Wales. ShapeBlue Services India LLP is a company incorporated in India and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. Shape Blue Brasil Consultoria Ltda is a company incorporated in Brasil and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue SA Pty Ltd is a company registered by The Republic of South Africa and is traded under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue is a registered trademark.