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Posted to dev@forrest.apache.org by Nicola Ken Barozzi <ni...@apache.org> on 2003/07/31 13:15:44 UTC
Allow gmane postings
Anyone against having gmane allow postings to the forrest-dev list via
gmane?
Cocoon-dev, Ant-dev, Incubator-general, etc all allow it, and AFAIK
there have not been problems.
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Re: Allow gmane postings
Posted by Nicola Ken Barozzi <ni...@apache.org>.
Juan Jose Pablos wrote, On 31/07/2003 14.13:
> This on was sent it by the newsgroups...
Because you are subscribed. But I don't want to recieve the Forrest
messages from the ML if I am using gmane... can I subscribe and not
recieve mails?
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Re: Allow gmane postings
Posted by Juan Jose Pablos <ch...@che-che.com>.
This on was sent it by the newsgroups...
Juan Jose Pablos wrote:
> Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
>
>>
>> Anyone against having gmane allow postings to the forrest-dev list via
>> gmane?
>>
>> Cocoon-dev, Ant-dev, Incubator-general, etc all allow it, and AFAIK
>> there have not been problems.
>>
>
> Positive:
> Allows anyone to post without the process of subscribe to the ML.
>
>
> Negative:
> SPAM?
>
Re: Allow gmane postings
Posted by Juan Jose Pablos <ch...@che-che.com>.
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
>
> Anyone against having gmane allow postings to the forrest-dev list via
> gmane?
>
> Cocoon-dev, Ant-dev, Incubator-general, etc all allow it, and AFAIK
> there have not been problems.
>
Positive:
Allows anyone to post without the process of subscribe to the ML.
Negative:
SPAM?
Re: Allow gmane postings
Posted by Nicola Ken Barozzi <ni...@apache.org>.
Steven Noels wrote, On 31/07/2003 14.21:
...
> You can ask to be added to the -allow list, however, that way you can
> post but do not receive mail - just send a mail to
> forrest-dev-allow-subscribe@xml.apache.org IIRC.
Wait... done.
Testing, 1,2,3, testing... :-D
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Re: Allow gmane postings
Posted by Steven Noels <st...@outerthought.org>.
On 31/07/2003 15:17 Juan Jose Pablos wrote:
> can you have more than one moderator?
Sure thing.
> I think that we could spread to more than one person.
> I would like to propose Nicola Ken as the is the master on the mailing
> lists:
>
> messages posted by 'Nicola Ken Barozzi <nicolaken () apache ! org>'
> (4615 msg) up to 2002-03-03.
I'll leave that to Nicola to decide, in any case it might be possible by
try to subscribe to forrest-dev-subscribe-mod@xml.apache.org which
should be sent for approval to the list owner (I don't know who that
is). If that doesn't work, just send a mail to apmail@apache.org stating
your intentions.
</Steven>
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Re: Allow gmane postings
Posted by Nicola Ken Barozzi <ni...@apache.org>.
David Crossley wrote, On 01/08/2003 18.01:
...
> It has been working fine since the list went
> subscriber-only. However, if you guys want to open the list up then
> that is okay by me. We will see if there is any difference.
I did two things:
1 - I made gmane allow postings from gmane to this list
2 - I added myself to the allowed ones by sending a mail to
forrest-dev-allow-subscribe@xml.apache.org
2 would have sufficed, but I learned of it only after 1 was done. IIUC
it won't have impact on our lists as the list is still subscribers only
from here.
>>messages posted by 'Nicola Ken Barozzi <nicolaken () apache ! org>'
>>(4615 msg) up to 2002-03-03.
>
> And he finds time for doing incredible work in between ... amazing.
:-O
Who's this guy?!? ;-)
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Re: Allow gmane postings
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@indexgeo.com.au>.
Juan Jose Pablos wrote:
> Steven Noels wrote:
> >
> > Seriously: with sometimes 50+ moderation mails a day for the other lists
> > I'm moderating as well, I'd like someone else to take up moderation for
> > Forrest then.
>
> can you have more than one moderator?
>
> I think that we could spread to more than one person.
We already have two: Steven and me. So we had the planet covered via
Australia and Europe. It has been working fine since the list went
subscriber-only. However, if you guys want to open the list up then
that is okay by me. We will see if there is any difference.
I will remain as a moderator for a while longer, but we will need
someone to replace Steven ... how about you Cheche. There really is
nothing to it. If there is spam, then delete it, otherwise reply to
the autoresponder to let the mail through.
> I would like to propose Nicola Ken as the is the master on the mailing
> lists:
I recall that i took over from him. Anyway i would rather let Nicola Ken
spend his time on other things.
> messages posted by 'Nicola Ken Barozzi <nicolaken () apache ! org>'
> (4615 msg) up to 2002-03-03.
And he finds time for doing incredible work in between ... amazing.
--David
Re: Allow gmane postings
Posted by Juan Jose Pablos <ch...@che-che.com>.
Steven,
Steven Noels wrote:
>
> Seriously: with sometimes 50+ moderation mails a day for the other lists
> I'm moderating as well, I'd like someone else to take up moderation for
> Forrest then.
can you have more than one moderator?
I think that we could spread to more than one person.
I would like to propose Nicola Ken as the is the master on the mailing
lists:
messages posted by 'Nicola Ken Barozzi <nicolaken () apache ! org>'
(4615 msg) up to 2002-03-03.
Cheers,
Cheche
Re: Allow gmane postings
Posted by Steven Noels <st...@outerthought.org>.
On 31/07/2003 14:13 Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> As other projects son't seem to have this big issue, I'd like to give it
> a try, and maybe swith moderation to use a new compact representation
> that is now used for tomcat... what do the moderators think?
Life is good without spam to moderate. :-)
Seriously: with sometimes 50+ moderation mails a day for the other lists
I'm moderating as well, I'd like someone else to take up moderation for
Forrest then.
You can ask to be added to the -allow list, however, that way you can
post but do not receive mail - just send a mail to
forrest-dev-allow-subscribe@xml.apache.org IIRC.
</Steven>
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Outerthought - Open Source, Java & XML Competence Support Center
Read my weblog at http://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/
stevenn at outerthought.org stevenn at apache.org
Re: Allow gmane postings
Posted by Nicola Ken Barozzi <ni...@apache.org>.
Jeff Turner wrote, On 31/07/2003 14.08:
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 01:15:44PM +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
>
>>Anyone against having gmane allow postings to the forrest-dev list via
>>gmane?
>
> I've posted to forrest-dev through gmane before. Do you mean, allow
> non-subscribers to post? If so, wouldn't that apply to everyone, not
> just gmane posters? IIRC anonymous posting was switched off after the
> moderators (David & Steven I think) got tired of spam.
Oh well... probably because they rejected it instead of just letting it
pass by ;-P
As other projects son't seem to have this big issue, I'd like to give it
a try, and maybe swith moderation to use a new compact representation
that is now used for tomcat... what do the moderators think?
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Nicola Ken Barozzi nicolaken@apache.org
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Re: Allow gmane postings
Posted by Jeff Turner <je...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 01:15:44PM +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
>
> Anyone against having gmane allow postings to the forrest-dev list via
> gmane?
I've posted to forrest-dev through gmane before. Do you mean, allow
non-subscribers to post? If so, wouldn't that apply to everyone, not
just gmane posters? IIRC anonymous posting was switched off after the
moderators (David & Steven I think) got tired of spam.
--Jeff
> Cocoon-dev, Ant-dev, Incubator-general, etc all allow it, and AFAIK
> there have not been problems.
>
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> Nicola Ken Barozzi nicolaken@apache.org
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>
Re: Allow gmane postings
Posted by Nicola Ken Barozzi <ni...@apache.org>.
Juan Jose Pablos wrote, On 31/07/2003 13.38:
> Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
>>
>> Anyone against having gmane allow postings to the forrest-dev list via
>> gmane?
>>
>> Cocoon-dev, Ant-dev, Incubator-general, etc all allow it, and AFAIK
>> there have not been problems.
>
> Positive:
> Allows anyone to post without the process of subscribe to the ML.
>
> Negative:
> SPAM?
Gmane has good anti-spam it seems.
> Pointers to the docs an FAQ?
>
> +1 We always can remove it if it does not work
:-) Excellent point. Doing it then.
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Nicola Ken Barozzi nicolaken@apache.org
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Re: Allow gmane postings
Posted by Juan Jose Pablos <ch...@che-che.com>.
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
>
> Anyone against having gmane allow postings to the forrest-dev list via
> gmane?
>
> Cocoon-dev, Ant-dev, Incubator-general, etc all allow it, and AFAIK
> there have not been problems.
>
Positive:
Allows anyone to post without the process of subscribe to the ML.
Negative:
SPAM?
Pointers to the docs an FAQ?
+1 We always can remove it if it does not work
Cheers,
Cheche