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Image loss in Writer documents
There is an existing bu
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=59915
on image loss in Writer documents. On the en-Forum, John-Ha has made a useful post of diagnostic information, which clearly links this problem to the memory allocations for graphics in OpenOffice (and garbage collection?). John_Ha's post is at
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&p=314079#p314079
With modern memory sizes the memory allocations in OpenOffice may be too conservative and should be revised upwards, but this may involve major surgery to the code. Perhaps such a revision should be targeted for the next major release?
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Re: Image loss in Writer documents
Posted by Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>.
On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 09:07:15 -0700
Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 7:38 AM, Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie> wrote:
>
> > There is an existing bu
> > https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=59915
> > on image loss in Writer documents. On the en-Forum, John-Ha has made a
> > useful post of diagnostic information, which clearly links this problem to
> > the memory allocations for graphics in OpenOffice (and garbage
> > collection?). John_Ha's post is at
> > https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&p=314079#p314079
> >
> > With modern memory sizes the memory allocations in OpenOffice may be too
> > conservative and should be revised upwards, but this may involve major
> > surgery to the code. Perhaps such a revision should be targeted for the
> > next major release?
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>
> >
>
> If I'm reading this thread correctly, it seems users' actually memory on
> their machines were fairly conservative -- up to 4MB it seems -- but
> increasing the graphics cache by users seemed to solve the problem. Is this
> a correct assessment?
>
I think the more recent reports are from better memoried machines. In particular I would expect that John_Ha's informtion and machine would be most helpful, as coming from a computer adept working with a well specified machine. One does not wish to have to flag OpenOffice with a warning "BEWARE! Do not attempt to use more than 30(say) images in any document".
> Could these issues be rectified by more information on the use of Memory
> Options and how they effect performance?
I doubt that will help - more people, with less skills, are using OpenOffice; they expect it to work 'out of the box', without tweaking. Anyway, let's see what others on the dev list think; a graphics cache of 256MB max seems unreasonably low in the days of 4/8/16 GB machines.
>
> There's an old doc about this:
> https://www.openoffice.org/about_us/configuration_guide.html
>
> but it could probably use some updating and better explanation.
>
>
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Re: Image loss in Writer documents
Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 7:38 AM, Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie> wrote:
> There is an existing bu
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=59915
> on image loss in Writer documents. On the en-Forum, John-Ha has made a
> useful post of diagnostic information, which clearly links this problem to
> the memory allocations for graphics in OpenOffice (and garbage
> collection?). John_Ha's post is at
> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&p=314079#p314079
>
> With modern memory sizes the memory allocations in OpenOffice may be too
> conservative and should be revised upwards, but this may involve major
> surgery to the code. Perhaps such a revision should be targeted for the
> next major release?
>
>
> --
> Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>
>
If I'm reading this thread correctly, it seems users' actually memory on
their machines were fairly conservative -- up to 4MB it seems -- but
increasing the graphics cache by users seemed to solve the problem. Is this
a correct assessment?
Could these issues be rectified by more information on the use of Memory
Options and how they effect performance?
There's an old doc about this:
https://www.openoffice.org/about_us/configuration_guide.html
but it could probably use some updating and better explanation.
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Re: Image loss in Writer documents
Posted by Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>.
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 11:34:31 +0200
Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <or...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 10.06.2014 11:19, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 10:51:53 +0200 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
> > <or...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On 07.06.2014 16:38, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> >>> There is an existing bu
> >>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=59915 on image loss
> >>> in Writer documents. On the en-Forum, John-Ha has made a useful
> >>> post of diagnostic information, which clearly links this problem
> >>> to the memory allocations for graphics in OpenOffice (and
> >>> garbage collection?). John_Ha's post is at
> >>> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&p=314079#p314079
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> With modern memory sizes the memory allocations in OpenOffice may be
> >>> too conservative and should be revised upwards, but this may
> >>> involve major surgery to the code. Perhaps such a revision should
> >>> be targeted for the next major release?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> I recently worked on "image loss" issues (124717, 114361 and
> >> 124966) and "high memory consumption by images" issues (124999 and
> >> 125000).
> >>
> >> I assume that the observations described in the above mentioned
> >> forum post are related to issue 124999 and 125000.
> >>
> >> Reading through the comments of issue 59915 I think that different
> >> "image loss" defects had been reported in this issue and that the
> >> initial reported "image loss" was never stable reproducible.
> >>
> >> I think with the work on the above mentioned issues, the builds
> >> from actual trunk versions should be tested, if the recent found
> >> defects still exist. If yes, please submit a new issue and put me
> >> on CC.
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance.
> >>
> >> Best regards, Oliver.
> >>
> >
> > I have echoed this message to the en-Forum thread for information of
> > those affected. If there is any feedback I'll copy it to this list.
> >
> >
>
> Thank you very much for keeping the different information sources connected.
>
> Best regards, Oliver.
>
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One reaction already, at
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=41271&p=314391#p314394
That posting is from one of the Forum's Windows gurus, so things look good!
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Re: Image loss in Writer documents
Posted by Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <or...@googlemail.com>.
Hi,
On 10.06.2014 11:19, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 10:51:53 +0200 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
> <or...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 07.06.2014 16:38, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
>>> There is an existing bu
>>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=59915 on image loss
>>> in Writer documents. On the en-Forum, John-Ha has made a useful
>>> post of diagnostic information, which clearly links this problem
>>> to the memory allocations for graphics in OpenOffice (and
>>> garbage collection?). John_Ha's post is at
>>> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&p=314079#p314079
>>>
>>>
>>>
With modern memory sizes the memory allocations in OpenOffice may be
>>> too conservative and should be revised upwards, but this may
>>> involve major surgery to the code. Perhaps such a revision should
>>> be targeted for the next major release?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I recently worked on "image loss" issues (124717, 114361 and
>> 124966) and "high memory consumption by images" issues (124999 and
>> 125000).
>>
>> I assume that the observations described in the above mentioned
>> forum post are related to issue 124999 and 125000.
>>
>> Reading through the comments of issue 59915 I think that different
>> "image loss" defects had been reported in this issue and that the
>> initial reported "image loss" was never stable reproducible.
>>
>> I think with the work on the above mentioned issues, the builds
>> from actual trunk versions should be tested, if the recent found
>> defects still exist. If yes, please submit a new issue and put me
>> on CC.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Best regards, Oliver.
>>
>
> I have echoed this message to the en-Forum thread for information of
> those affected. If there is any feedback I'll copy it to this list.
>
>
Thank you very much for keeping the different information sources connected.
Best regards, Oliver.
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Re: Image loss in Writer documents
Posted by Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>.
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 10:51:53 +0200
Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <or...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 07.06.2014 16:38, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> > There is an existing bu
> > https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=59915 on image loss in
> > Writer documents. On the en-Forum, John-Ha has made a useful post of
> > diagnostic information, which clearly links this problem to the
> > memory allocations for graphics in OpenOffice (and garbage
> > collection?). John_Ha's post is at
> > https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&p=314079#p314079
> >
> > With modern memory sizes the memory allocations in OpenOffice may be
> > too conservative and should be revised upwards, but this may involve
> > major surgery to the code. Perhaps such a revision should be targeted
> > for the next major release?
> >
> >
>
> I recently worked on "image loss" issues (124717, 114361 and 124966) and
> "high memory consumption by images" issues (124999 and 125000).
>
> I assume that the observations described in the above mentioned forum
> post are related to issue 124999 and 125000.
>
> Reading through the comments of issue 59915 I think that different
> "image loss" defects had been reported in this issue and that the
> initial reported "image loss" was never stable reproducible.
>
> I think with the work on the above mentioned issues, the builds from
> actual trunk versions should be tested, if the recent found defects
> still exist. If yes, please submit a new issue and put me on CC.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Best regards, Oliver.
>
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I have echoed this message to the en-Forum thread for information of those affected. If there is any feedback I'll copy it to this list.
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Re: Image loss in Writer documents
Posted by Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <or...@googlemail.com>.
Hi,
On 07.06.2014 16:38, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> There is an existing bu
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=59915 on image loss in
> Writer documents. On the en-Forum, John-Ha has made a useful post of
> diagnostic information, which clearly links this problem to the
> memory allocations for graphics in OpenOffice (and garbage
> collection?). John_Ha's post is at
> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&p=314079#p314079
>
> With modern memory sizes the memory allocations in OpenOffice may be
> too conservative and should be revised upwards, but this may involve
> major surgery to the code. Perhaps such a revision should be targeted
> for the next major release?
>
>
I recently worked on "image loss" issues (124717, 114361 and 124966) and
"high memory consumption by images" issues (124999 and 125000).
I assume that the observations described in the above mentioned forum
post are related to issue 124999 and 125000.
Reading through the comments of issue 59915 I think that different
"image loss" defects had been reported in this issue and that the
initial reported "image loss" was never stable reproducible.
I think with the work on the above mentioned issues, the builds from
actual trunk versions should be tested, if the recent found defects
still exist. If yes, please submit a new issue and put me on CC.
Thanks in advance.
Best regards, Oliver.
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