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Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the
alternatives, and didn't come up with much.
Can someone tell me the differences?
(I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed).
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Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
Posted by Carlos Sanchez <ca...@apache.org>.
it's just a matter of priorities and time, there's only 28 hours in a day ;)
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 7:47 AM, John Coleman
<jo...@eurobase-international.com> wrote:
> Not supporting -P is a show stopper for us. We use the build number
> plugin, and insist that continumm builds have proper source-repo
> synchronization.
>
> Taking away these command line options is a big limitation. Expecting
> people to change their projects to suit this limitation seems
> unacceptable to me. I guess we'll have to use the command line in the
> meantime.
>
> Regards,
> John
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Henri Gomez [mailto:henri.gomez@gmail.com]
> > Sent: 04 March 2008 15:01
> > To: Maven Users List
> > Subject: Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
> >
>
>
> > I switched from m2eclipse to Q4E (still using the dev
> > release, ie
> > http://www.jroller.com/carlossg/entry/exist_global_acquires_devzuz).
> >
> > Even if Q4E is a new project and so less mature, it works
> > great for me, ie I could use an eclipse project having both
> > WTP and Q4E nature.
> >
> > Q4E is supported by Devzuz.org and as they are involved
> > (indirectly via Exist) in Buckminster, it will be in a not
> > too long future the 'official eclipse plugin' for maven support.
> >
> > I recommands Q4E (http://code.google.com/p/q4e/)
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > >2008/3/4, Thomas Lutz <ma...@gmx.at>:
> > > I don't use profiles very much, I've one box for office
> > work, another
> > > for private stuff :-)...
> > >
> > > found a post in the q4e users list:
> > >
> > >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/q4e-users/browse_thread/thread/82ff5a7a
> > > fd79ebcf
> > >
> > > refering to an issue in q4e:
> > > http://code.google.com/p/q4e/issues/detail?id=5
> > >
> > > sorry,
> > > tom
> > >
> > > John Coleman schrieb:
> > >
> > > > I can't see a way in Q4E to activate a profile in my
> > settings.xml.
> > > > Did
> > > > you find out how to do that?
> > > >
> > > > My experience so far is that NetBeans mavenide seems to
> > be streets
> > > ahead > of the various eclipse efforts I have tried. Since devzuz
> > > support Q4E I > am hoping it is better than what I have seen.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Thomas Lutz [mailto:mattom@gmx.at] >> Sent: 25 February
> > > 2008 11:24 >> To: Maven Users List >> Subject: Re: Mevenide vs.
> > > M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM >> >> Hi !
> > > >>
> > > >> Though this doesn't answer your question regarding a
> > comparison.. :-):
> > > >>
> > > >> I use Q4E and am really happy with it. much better than >>
> > > m2eclipse and mevenide, pom synchronization and classpath >>
> > > integration works well. No webtools support in the version
> > I >> use,
> > > but that could have changed in the meantime...
> > > >>
> > > >> Tom
> > > >>
> > > >> VUB Stefan Seidel schrieb:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Hi Chris,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> we started with m2eclipse, too, and had troubles too.
> > After >>>
> > > >> spending >> >>> about a week in total fixing the worst
> > things in
> > > it, it is quite >>> usable. Unfortunately, almost none of my
> > > suggestions made >>> >> it into the >> >>> mainstream code, and
> > > I've given up trying. I thought about >>> >> a fork but
> > >> >>> I
> > > don't have the time. Anyway, m2eclipse is based on some
> > >>> >> good
> > > ideas, >> >>> and when I last looked at Q4E, it wasn't
> > usable due to
> > > its >>> >> early dev >> >>> stage.
> > > >>> There is a eclipse plugin for maven that generated the
> > >>> >>
> > > .project files >> >>> and others, this one allows you to develop
> > > maven apps in >>> >> Eclipse, but >> >>> it is no real "Eclipse
> > > integration".
> > > >>>
> > > >>> HTH,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Stefan
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Chris wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> I googled around to try to find a comparison between
> > >>>> >>
> > > Mevenide and the >> >>>> alternatives, and didn't come up
> > with much.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Can someone tell me the differences?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not*
> > impressed).
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>
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RE: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
Posted by John Coleman <jo...@eurobase-international.com>.
Not supporting -P is a show stopper for us. We use the build number
plugin, and insist that continumm builds have proper source-repo
synchronization.
Taking away these command line options is a big limitation. Expecting
people to change their projects to suit this limitation seems
unacceptable to me. I guess we'll have to use the command line in the
meantime.
Regards,
John
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Henri Gomez [mailto:henri.gomez@gmail.com]
> Sent: 04 March 2008 15:01
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
>
> I switched from m2eclipse to Q4E (still using the dev
> release, ie
> http://www.jroller.com/carlossg/entry/exist_global_acquires_devzuz).
>
> Even if Q4E is a new project and so less mature, it works
> great for me, ie I could use an eclipse project having both
> WTP and Q4E nature.
>
> Q4E is supported by Devzuz.org and as they are involved
> (indirectly via Exist) in Buckminster, it will be in a not
> too long future the 'official eclipse plugin' for maven support.
>
> I recommands Q4E (http://code.google.com/p/q4e/)
>
> Regards.
>
> >2008/3/4, Thomas Lutz <ma...@gmx.at>:
> > I don't use profiles very much, I've one box for office
> work, another
> > for private stuff :-)...
> >
> > found a post in the q4e users list:
> >
> >
> http://groups.google.com/group/q4e-users/browse_thread/thread/82ff5a7a
> > fd79ebcf
> >
> > refering to an issue in q4e:
> > http://code.google.com/p/q4e/issues/detail?id=5
> >
> > sorry,
> > tom
> >
> > John Coleman schrieb:
> >
> > > I can't see a way in Q4E to activate a profile in my
> settings.xml.
> > > Did
> > > you find out how to do that?
> > >
> > > My experience so far is that NetBeans mavenide seems to
> be streets
> > ahead > of the various eclipse efforts I have tried. Since devzuz
> > support Q4E I > am hoping it is better than what I have seen.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Thomas Lutz [mailto:mattom@gmx.at] >> Sent: 25 February
> > 2008 11:24 >> To: Maven Users List >> Subject: Re: Mevenide vs.
> > M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM >> >> Hi !
> > >>
> > >> Though this doesn't answer your question regarding a
> comparison.. :-):
> > >>
> > >> I use Q4E and am really happy with it. much better than >>
> > m2eclipse and mevenide, pom synchronization and classpath >>
> > integration works well. No webtools support in the version
> I >> use,
> > but that could have changed in the meantime...
> > >>
> > >> Tom
> > >>
> > >> VUB Stefan Seidel schrieb:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi Chris,
> > >>>
> > >>> we started with m2eclipse, too, and had troubles too.
> After >>>
> > >> spending >> >>> about a week in total fixing the worst
> things in
> > it, it is quite >>> usable. Unfortunately, almost none of my
> > suggestions made >>> >> it into the >> >>> mainstream code, and
> > I've given up trying. I thought about >>> >> a fork but
> >> >>> I
> > don't have the time. Anyway, m2eclipse is based on some
> >>> >> good
> > ideas, >> >>> and when I last looked at Q4E, it wasn't
> usable due to
> > its >>> >> early dev >> >>> stage.
> > >>> There is a eclipse plugin for maven that generated the
> >>> >>
> > .project files >> >>> and others, this one allows you to develop
> > maven apps in >>> >> Eclipse, but >> >>> it is no real "Eclipse
> > integration".
> > >>>
> > >>> HTH,
> > >>>
> > >>> Stefan
> > >>>
> > >>> Chris wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I googled around to try to find a comparison between
> >>>> >>
> > Mevenide and the >> >>>> alternatives, and didn't come up
> with much.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Can someone tell me the differences?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not*
> impressed).
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> >
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Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
Posted by Henri Gomez <he...@gmail.com>.
I switched from m2eclipse to Q4E (still using the dev release, ie
http://www.jroller.com/carlossg/entry/exist_global_acquires_devzuz).
Even if Q4E is a new project and so less mature, it works great for
me, ie I could use an eclipse project having both WTP and Q4E nature.
Q4E is supported by Devzuz.org and as they are involved (indirectly
via Exist) in Buckminster, it will be in a not too long future the
'official eclipse plugin' for maven support.
I recommands Q4E (http://code.google.com/p/q4e/)
Regards.
>2008/3/4, Thomas Lutz <ma...@gmx.at>:
> I don't use profiles very much, I've one box for office work, another
> for private stuff :-)...
>
> found a post in the q4e users list:
> http://groups.google.com/group/q4e-users/browse_thread/thread/82ff5a7afd79ebcf
>
> refering to an issue in q4e:
> http://code.google.com/p/q4e/issues/detail?id=5
>
> sorry,
> tom
>
> John Coleman schrieb:
>
> > I can't see a way in Q4E to activate a profile in my settings.xml. Did
> > you find out how to do that?
> >
> > My experience so far is that NetBeans mavenide seems to be streets ahead
> > of the various eclipse efforts I have tried. Since devzuz support Q4E I
> > am hoping it is better than what I have seen.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Thomas Lutz [mailto:mattom@gmx.at]
> >> Sent: 25 February 2008 11:24
> >> To: Maven Users List
> >> Subject: Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
> >>
> >> Hi !
> >>
> >> Though this doesn't answer your question regarding a comparison.. :-):
> >>
> >> I use Q4E and am really happy with it. much better than
> >> m2eclipse and mevenide, pom synchronization and classpath
> >> integration works well. No webtools support in the version I
> >> use, but that could have changed in the meantime...
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >> VUB Stefan Seidel schrieb:
> >>
> >>> Hi Chris,
> >>>
> >>> we started with m2eclipse, too, and had troubles too. After
> >>>
> >> spending
> >>
> >>> about a week in total fixing the worst things in it, it is quite
> >>> usable. Unfortunately, almost none of my suggestions made
> >>>
> >> it into the
> >>
> >>> mainstream code, and I've given up trying. I thought about
> >>>
> >> a fork but
> >>
> >>> I don't have the time. Anyway, m2eclipse is based on some
> >>>
> >> good ideas,
> >>
> >>> and when I last looked at Q4E, it wasn't usable due to its
> >>>
> >> early dev
> >>
> >>> stage.
> >>> There is a eclipse plugin for maven that generated the
> >>>
> >> .project files
> >>
> >>> and others, this one allows you to develop maven apps in
> >>>
> >> Eclipse, but
> >>
> >>> it is no real "Eclipse integration".
> >>>
> >>> HTH,
> >>>
> >>> Stefan
> >>>
> >>> Chris wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I googled around to try to find a comparison between
> >>>>
> >> Mevenide and the
> >>
> >>>> alternatives, and didn't come up with much.
> >>>>
> >>>> Can someone tell me the differences?
> >>>>
> >>>> (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed).
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
Posted by Thomas Lutz <ma...@gmx.at>.
I don't use profiles very much, I've one box for office work, another
for private stuff :-)...
found a post in the q4e users list:
http://groups.google.com/group/q4e-users/browse_thread/thread/82ff5a7afd79ebcf
refering to an issue in q4e:
http://code.google.com/p/q4e/issues/detail?id=5
sorry,
tom
John Coleman schrieb:
> I can't see a way in Q4E to activate a profile in my settings.xml. Did
> you find out how to do that?
>
> My experience so far is that NetBeans mavenide seems to be streets ahead
> of the various eclipse efforts I have tried. Since devzuz support Q4E I
> am hoping it is better than what I have seen.
>
> Regards,
> John
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Thomas Lutz [mailto:mattom@gmx.at]
>> Sent: 25 February 2008 11:24
>> To: Maven Users List
>> Subject: Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
>>
>> Hi !
>>
>> Though this doesn't answer your question regarding a comparison.. :-):
>>
>> I use Q4E and am really happy with it. much better than
>> m2eclipse and mevenide, pom synchronization and classpath
>> integration works well. No webtools support in the version I
>> use, but that could have changed in the meantime...
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> VUB Stefan Seidel schrieb:
>>
>>> Hi Chris,
>>>
>>> we started with m2eclipse, too, and had troubles too. After
>>>
>> spending
>>
>>> about a week in total fixing the worst things in it, it is quite
>>> usable. Unfortunately, almost none of my suggestions made
>>>
>> it into the
>>
>>> mainstream code, and I've given up trying. I thought about
>>>
>> a fork but
>>
>>> I don't have the time. Anyway, m2eclipse is based on some
>>>
>> good ideas,
>>
>>> and when I last looked at Q4E, it wasn't usable due to its
>>>
>> early dev
>>
>>> stage.
>>> There is a eclipse plugin for maven that generated the
>>>
>> .project files
>>
>>> and others, this one allows you to develop maven apps in
>>>
>> Eclipse, but
>>
>>> it is no real "Eclipse integration".
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>>
>>> Stefan
>>>
>>> Chris wrote:
>>>
>>>> I googled around to try to find a comparison between
>>>>
>> Mevenide and the
>>
>>>> alternatives, and didn't come up with much.
>>>>
>>>> Can someone tell me the differences?
>>>>
>>>> (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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RE: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
Posted by John Coleman <jo...@eurobase-international.com>.
I can't see a way in Q4E to activate a profile in my settings.xml. Did
you find out how to do that?
My experience so far is that NetBeans mavenide seems to be streets ahead
of the various eclipse efforts I have tried. Since devzuz support Q4E I
am hoping it is better than what I have seen.
Regards,
John
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Lutz [mailto:mattom@gmx.at]
> Sent: 25 February 2008 11:24
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
>
> Hi !
>
> Though this doesn't answer your question regarding a comparison.. :-):
>
> I use Q4E and am really happy with it. much better than
> m2eclipse and mevenide, pom synchronization and classpath
> integration works well. No webtools support in the version I
> use, but that could have changed in the meantime...
>
> Tom
>
> VUB Stefan Seidel schrieb:
> > Hi Chris,
> >
> > we started with m2eclipse, too, and had troubles too. After
> spending
> > about a week in total fixing the worst things in it, it is quite
> > usable. Unfortunately, almost none of my suggestions made
> it into the
> > mainstream code, and I've given up trying. I thought about
> a fork but
> > I don't have the time. Anyway, m2eclipse is based on some
> good ideas,
> > and when I last looked at Q4E, it wasn't usable due to its
> early dev
> > stage.
> > There is a eclipse plugin for maven that generated the
> .project files
> > and others, this one allows you to develop maven apps in
> Eclipse, but
> > it is no real "Eclipse integration".
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > Stefan
> >
> > Chris wrote:
> >> I googled around to try to find a comparison between
> Mevenide and the
> >> alternatives, and didn't come up with much.
> >>
> >> Can someone tell me the differences?
> >>
> >> (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed).
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
Posted by Thomas Lutz <ma...@gmx.at>.
Hi !
Though this doesn't answer your question regarding a comparison.. :-):
I use Q4E and am really happy with it. much better than m2eclipse and
mevenide, pom synchronization and classpath integration works well. No
webtools support in the version I use, but that could have changed in
the meantime...
Tom
VUB Stefan Seidel schrieb:
> Hi Chris,
>
> we started with m2eclipse, too, and had troubles too. After spending
> about a week in total fixing the worst things in it, it is quite
> usable. Unfortunately, almost none of my suggestions made it into the
> mainstream code, and I've given up trying. I thought about a fork but
> I don't have the time. Anyway, m2eclipse is based on some good ideas,
> and when I last looked at Q4E, it wasn't usable due to its early dev
> stage.
> There is a eclipse plugin for maven that generated the .project files
> and others, this one allows you to develop maven apps in Eclipse, but
> it is no real "Eclipse integration".
>
> HTH,
>
> Stefan
>
> Chris wrote:
>> I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the
>> alternatives, and didn't come up with much.
>>
>> Can someone tell me the differences?
>>
>> (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed).
>>
>>
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Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
Posted by VUB Stefan Seidel <ss...@vub.de>.
Hi Chris,
we started with m2eclipse, too, and had troubles too. After spending
about a week in total fixing the worst things in it, it is quite usable.
Unfortunately, almost none of my suggestions made it into the mainstream
code, and I've given up trying. I thought about a fork but I don't have
the time. Anyway, m2eclipse is based on some good ideas, and when I last
looked at Q4E, it wasn't usable due to its early dev stage.
There is a eclipse plugin for maven that generated the .project files
and others, this one allows you to develop maven apps in Eclipse, but it
is no real "Eclipse integration".
HTH,
Stefan
Chris wrote:
> I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the
> alternatives, and didn't come up with much.
>
> Can someone tell me the differences?
>
> (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed).
>
>
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Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
Posted by Rodrigo Madera <ro...@gmail.com>.
The problem is when you don't have that time to time.
Once you implement one, its very hard for you to get time to implement
another one.
Specially since there is no such thing as fail-safe plugin installations.
Not to mention the learning curve each one requires.
IOW: For a business, its better to stick to one and learn it well. If a
standard (or Industry Quality) arrives, then adopt it and save money.
Regards,
Rodrigo
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Boeckli, Dominique <
dominique.boeckli@eds.com> wrote:
> all these tools are not ready, in my opinion, but it is worth to take a
> look at them
> from time to time.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: news [mailto:news@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Chris
> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 02:45 AM
> To: users@maven.apache.org
> Subject: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
>
> I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the
> alternatives, and didn't come up with much.
>
> Can someone tell me the differences?
>
> (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed).
>
>
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RE: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
Posted by "Boeckli, Dominique" <do...@eds.com>.
all these tools are not ready, in my opinion, but it is worth to take a
look at them
from time to time.
-----Original Message-----
From: news [mailto:news@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 02:45 AM
To: users@maven.apache.org
Subject: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the
alternatives, and didn't come up with much.
Can someone tell me the differences?
(I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed).
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Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
Posted by Milos Kleint <mk...@gmail.com>.
mevenide for eclipse is for maven 1 only.
Milos
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Chris <sh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> How about mevenide? Has anyone used it, know how it compares?
>
>
>
>
> Carlos Sanchez wrote:
> > i've added a list of Q4E features to the table
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 10:04 AM, <he...@free.fr> wrote:
> >> Since the question of choosing an Eclipse Integration is often asked, I
> >> just worked on the "Eclipse Integration" page from Maven Users Wiki:
> >> http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVENUSER/Eclipse+Integration
> >>
> >> I started a comparison matrix with basic project informations.
> >>
> >> This Wiki is public: feel free to improve the comparison.
> >>
> >> Selon Abel Muiño <am...@gmail.com>:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > As for the comparison between maven integration solutions, I know none but it
> >> > would be interesting if someone started one (like a google group and some
> >> > pages on it). Since I'm involved with q4e, it would not be a fair comparison
> >> > if I made it :-).
> >> >
> >> > I think it would be easy to have a "feature matrix" just if several users of
> >> > the different solutions exchanged opinions on a list.
> >> >
> >> > As for cleaning the project from the shell... if you use eclipse, you'll
> >> > need to refresh/rebuild the workspace. This is not a problem with the
> >> > plug-ins, but something that goes deep in the eclipse architecture.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Rodrigo Madera wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Since you are on the topic, do you know if any of these have trouble if
> >> > > you
> >> > > go to a shell and do a `mvn clean` on the project?
> >> > >
> >> > > I have a plugin (dont remember its name) that integrates Maven nicely, but
> >> > > is allergic to the (sometimes needed) cleaning.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks,
> >> > > Rodrigo
> >> > >
> >> > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 2:09 AM, Jason Chaffee <ja...@tvworks.com>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> I found the following FAQ about Q4E:
> >> > >> http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/FAQ
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Features
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> * running Maven goals from the IDE
> >> > >> * dependency managing using the Maven POM, with automatic download
> >> > >> of dependencies
> >> > >> * keeping Eclipse classpath synchronized with Maven POM
> >> > >> * dependency graphing
> >> > >> <http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/DependencyGraphViewer>
> >> > >> * direct import of Maven 2 projects
> >> > >> * wizard for creation of new projects using the archetype
> >> > >> mechanism
> >> > >> * modular approach to improve reusability by other Eclipse
> >> > >> projects
> >> > >> * ability to import parent projects (pom projects)
> >> > >> <http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/ImportingMultiprojects> (from 0.5.0)
> >> > >>
> >> > >> * ability to cancel maven builds (from 0.5.0)
> >> > >> * dependency analysis tooling (from 0.5.0)
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> What are the differences between this plugin and m2eclipse (aka Tycho)?
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> The objective of this plugin is to be part of the Eclipse Foundation
> >> > >> <http://www.eclipse.org> , for that reason the license is EPL and we are
> >> > >> going to follow the foundation procedures. Thanks to the sponsorship of
> >> > >> DevZuz <http://www.devzuz.com> , an Eclipse Strategic Developer Member
> >> > >> <http://www.eclipse.org/membership/showMember.php?member_id=824> we are
> >> > >> in a good position to achieve this goal.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Besides the objective, there are technical differences. While m2eclipse
> >> > >> shows Maven output in a console, Q is based in events and will show them
> >> > >> in an organized way that allows filtering by severity, search,...
> >> > >> Functionality like the dependency graph, or creation of new projects
> >> > >> using the archetype mechanism are only present in Q.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Also it's implemented in several modules with reusability and extension
> >> > >> in mind so other people can develop their own plugins taking advantage
> >> > >> of the functionality they need (see for instance Candy for Appfuse
> >> > >> <http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be
> >> > >>
> >> >
> >> -under-extreme-refactoring/<http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be-under-extreme-refactoring/>>
> >> > >> ).
> >> > >>
> >> > >> In any case the underlying Maven libraries used for both plugins are the
> >> > >> same (the Maven Embedder) and both plugin developers collaborate in its
> >> > >> development.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> From: news [mailto:news@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Chris
> >> > >> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:45 PM
> >> > >> To: users@maven.apache.org
> >> > >> Subject: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the
> >> > >>
> >> > >> alternatives, and didn't come up with much.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Can someone tell me the differences?
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed).
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
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> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
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Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
Posted by Chris <sh...@yahoo.com>.
How about mevenide? Has anyone used it, know how it compares?
Carlos Sanchez wrote:
> i've added a list of Q4E features to the table
>
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 10:04 AM, <he...@free.fr> wrote:
>> Since the question of choosing an Eclipse Integration is often asked, I
>> just worked on the "Eclipse Integration" page from Maven Users Wiki:
>> http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVENUSER/Eclipse+Integration
>>
>> I started a comparison matrix with basic project informations.
>>
>> This Wiki is public: feel free to improve the comparison.
>>
>> Selon Abel Muiño <am...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > As for the comparison between maven integration solutions, I know none but it
>> > would be interesting if someone started one (like a google group and some
>> > pages on it). Since I'm involved with q4e, it would not be a fair comparison
>> > if I made it :-).
>> >
>> > I think it would be easy to have a "feature matrix" just if several users of
>> > the different solutions exchanged opinions on a list.
>> >
>> > As for cleaning the project from the shell... if you use eclipse, you'll
>> > need to refresh/rebuild the workspace. This is not a problem with the
>> > plug-ins, but something that goes deep in the eclipse architecture.
>> >
>> >
>> > Rodrigo Madera wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Since you are on the topic, do you know if any of these have trouble if
>> > > you
>> > > go to a shell and do a `mvn clean` on the project?
>> > >
>> > > I have a plugin (dont remember its name) that integrates Maven nicely, but
>> > > is allergic to the (sometimes needed) cleaning.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > Rodrigo
>> > >
>> > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 2:09 AM, Jason Chaffee <ja...@tvworks.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> I found the following FAQ about Q4E:
>> > >> http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/FAQ
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Features
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> * running Maven goals from the IDE
>> > >> * dependency managing using the Maven POM, with automatic download
>> > >> of dependencies
>> > >> * keeping Eclipse classpath synchronized with Maven POM
>> > >> * dependency graphing
>> > >> <http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/DependencyGraphViewer>
>> > >> * direct import of Maven 2 projects
>> > >> * wizard for creation of new projects using the archetype
>> > >> mechanism
>> > >> * modular approach to improve reusability by other Eclipse
>> > >> projects
>> > >> * ability to import parent projects (pom projects)
>> > >> <http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/ImportingMultiprojects> (from 0.5.0)
>> > >>
>> > >> * ability to cancel maven builds (from 0.5.0)
>> > >> * dependency analysis tooling (from 0.5.0)
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> What are the differences between this plugin and m2eclipse (aka Tycho)?
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> The objective of this plugin is to be part of the Eclipse Foundation
>> > >> <http://www.eclipse.org> , for that reason the license is EPL and we are
>> > >> going to follow the foundation procedures. Thanks to the sponsorship of
>> > >> DevZuz <http://www.devzuz.com> , an Eclipse Strategic Developer Member
>> > >> <http://www.eclipse.org/membership/showMember.php?member_id=824> we are
>> > >> in a good position to achieve this goal.
>> > >>
>> > >> Besides the objective, there are technical differences. While m2eclipse
>> > >> shows Maven output in a console, Q is based in events and will show them
>> > >> in an organized way that allows filtering by severity, search,...
>> > >> Functionality like the dependency graph, or creation of new projects
>> > >> using the archetype mechanism are only present in Q.
>> > >>
>> > >> Also it's implemented in several modules with reusability and extension
>> > >> in mind so other people can develop their own plugins taking advantage
>> > >> of the functionality they need (see for instance Candy for Appfuse
>> > >> <http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be
>> > >>
>> >
>> -under-extreme-refactoring/<http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be-under-extreme-refactoring/>>
>> > >> ).
>> > >>
>> > >> In any case the underlying Maven libraries used for both plugins are the
>> > >> same (the Maven Embedder) and both plugin developers collaborate in its
>> > >> development.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> From: news [mailto:news@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Chris
>> > >> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:45 PM
>> > >> To: users@maven.apache.org
>> > >> Subject: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the
>> > >>
>> > >> alternatives, and didn't come up with much.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Can someone tell me the differences?
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed).
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
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>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
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>> > http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com
>> > --
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>> >
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Posted by Carlos Sanchez <ca...@apache.org>.
i've added a list of Q4E features to the table
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 10:04 AM, <he...@free.fr> wrote:
> Since the question of choosing an Eclipse Integration is often asked, I
> just worked on the "Eclipse Integration" page from Maven Users Wiki:
> http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVENUSER/Eclipse+Integration
>
> I started a comparison matrix with basic project informations.
>
> This Wiki is public: feel free to improve the comparison.
>
> Selon Abel Muiño <am...@gmail.com>:
>
>
>
> >
> > As for the comparison between maven integration solutions, I know none but it
> > would be interesting if someone started one (like a google group and some
> > pages on it). Since I'm involved with q4e, it would not be a fair comparison
> > if I made it :-).
> >
> > I think it would be easy to have a "feature matrix" just if several users of
> > the different solutions exchanged opinions on a list.
> >
> > As for cleaning the project from the shell... if you use eclipse, you'll
> > need to refresh/rebuild the workspace. This is not a problem with the
> > plug-ins, but something that goes deep in the eclipse architecture.
> >
> >
> > Rodrigo Madera wrote:
> > >
> > > Since you are on the topic, do you know if any of these have trouble if
> > > you
> > > go to a shell and do a `mvn clean` on the project?
> > >
> > > I have a plugin (dont remember its name) that integrates Maven nicely, but
> > > is allergic to the (sometimes needed) cleaning.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Rodrigo
> > >
> > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 2:09 AM, Jason Chaffee <ja...@tvworks.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I found the following FAQ about Q4E:
> > >> http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/FAQ
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Features
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> * running Maven goals from the IDE
> > >> * dependency managing using the Maven POM, with automatic download
> > >> of dependencies
> > >> * keeping Eclipse classpath synchronized with Maven POM
> > >> * dependency graphing
> > >> <http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/DependencyGraphViewer>
> > >> * direct import of Maven 2 projects
> > >> * wizard for creation of new projects using the archetype
> > >> mechanism
> > >> * modular approach to improve reusability by other Eclipse
> > >> projects
> > >> * ability to import parent projects (pom projects)
> > >> <http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/ImportingMultiprojects> (from 0.5.0)
> > >>
> > >> * ability to cancel maven builds (from 0.5.0)
> > >> * dependency analysis tooling (from 0.5.0)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> What are the differences between this plugin and m2eclipse (aka Tycho)?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The objective of this plugin is to be part of the Eclipse Foundation
> > >> <http://www.eclipse.org> , for that reason the license is EPL and we are
> > >> going to follow the foundation procedures. Thanks to the sponsorship of
> > >> DevZuz <http://www.devzuz.com> , an Eclipse Strategic Developer Member
> > >> <http://www.eclipse.org/membership/showMember.php?member_id=824> we are
> > >> in a good position to achieve this goal.
> > >>
> > >> Besides the objective, there are technical differences. While m2eclipse
> > >> shows Maven output in a console, Q is based in events and will show them
> > >> in an organized way that allows filtering by severity, search,...
> > >> Functionality like the dependency graph, or creation of new projects
> > >> using the archetype mechanism are only present in Q.
> > >>
> > >> Also it's implemented in several modules with reusability and extension
> > >> in mind so other people can develop their own plugins taking advantage
> > >> of the functionality they need (see for instance Candy for Appfuse
> > >> <http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be
> > >>
> >
> -under-extreme-refactoring/<http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be-under-extreme-refactoring/>>
> > >> ).
> > >>
> > >> In any case the underlying Maven libraries used for both plugins are the
> > >> same (the Maven Embedder) and both plugin developers collaborate in its
> > >> development.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: news [mailto:news@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Chris
> > >> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:45 PM
> > >> To: users@maven.apache.org
> > >> Subject: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the
> > >>
> > >> alternatives, and didn't come up with much.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Can someone tell me the differences?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed).
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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> > http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com
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Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
Posted by he...@free.fr.
Selon Rodrigo Madera <ro...@gmail.com>:
> Nice work.
thank you
>
> However there is a deprecated indicator on the OSGi Bundles item (under
> Eclipse Developer).
> What exactly do you mean with it?
*I* don't mean anything: it was in the page before I changed it. Since I don't
know the topic, I let it as-is.
Feel free to fix the info if it is not accurate :)
>
> As an OSGi developer I found it rather strange to see OSGi and deprecated on
> the same sentence. =o)
>
> Thanks,
> Rodrigo
>
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 6:04 PM, <he...@free.fr> wrote:
>
> > Since the question of choosing an Eclipse Integration is often asked, I
> > just worked on the "Eclipse Integration" page from Maven Users Wiki:
> > http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVENUSER/Eclipse+Integration
> >
> > I started a comparison matrix with basic project informations.
> >
> > This Wiki is public: feel free to improve the comparison.
> >
> > Selon Abel Muiño <am...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > >
> > > As for the comparison between maven integration solutions, I know none
> > but it
> > > would be interesting if someone started one (like a google group and
> > some
> > > pages on it). Since I'm involved with q4e, it would not be a fair
> > comparison
> > > if I made it :-).
> > >
> > > I think it would be easy to have a "feature matrix" just if several
> > users of
> > > the different solutions exchanged opinions on a list.
> > >
> > > As for cleaning the project from the shell... if you use eclipse, you'll
> > > need to refresh/rebuild the workspace. This is not a problem with the
> > > plug-ins, but something that goes deep in the eclipse architecture.
> > >
> > >
> > > Rodrigo Madera wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Since you are on the topic, do you know if any of these have trouble
> > if
> > > > you
> > > > go to a shell and do a `mvn clean` on the project?
> > > >
> > > > I have a plugin (dont remember its name) that integrates Maven nicely,
> > but
> > > > is allergic to the (sometimes needed) cleaning.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Rodrigo
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 2:09 AM, Jason Chaffee <
> > jason_chaffee@tvworks.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I found the following FAQ about Q4E:
> > > >> http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/FAQ
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Features
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> * running Maven goals from the IDE
> > > >> * dependency managing using the Maven POM, with automatic
> > download
> > > >> of dependencies
> > > >> * keeping Eclipse classpath synchronized with Maven POM
> > > >> * dependency graphing
> > > >> <http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/DependencyGraphViewer>
> > > >> * direct import of Maven 2 projects
> > > >> * wizard for creation of new projects using the archetype
> > > >> mechanism
> > > >> * modular approach to improve reusability by other Eclipse
> > > >> projects
> > > >> * ability to import parent projects (pom projects)
> > > >> <http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/ImportingMultiprojects> (from
> > 0.5.0)
> > > >>
> > > >> * ability to cancel maven builds (from 0.5.0)
> > > >> * dependency analysis tooling (from 0.5.0)
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> What are the differences between this plugin and m2eclipse (aka
> > Tycho)?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> The objective of this plugin is to be part of the Eclipse Foundation
> > > >> <http://www.eclipse.org> , for that reason the license is EPL and we
> > are
> > > >> going to follow the foundation procedures. Thanks to the sponsorship
> > of
> > > >> DevZuz <http://www.devzuz.com> , an Eclipse Strategic Developer
> > Member
> > > >> <http://www.eclipse.org/membership/showMember.php?member_id=824> we
> > are
> > > >> in a good position to achieve this goal.
> > > >>
> > > >> Besides the objective, there are technical differences. While
> > m2eclipse
> > > >> shows Maven output in a console, Q is based in events and will show
> > them
> > > >> in an organized way that allows filtering by severity, search,...
> > > >> Functionality like the dependency graph, or creation of new projects
> > > >> using the archetype mechanism are only present in Q.
> > > >>
> > > >> Also it's implemented in several modules with reusability and
> > extension
> > > >> in mind so other people can develop their own plugins taking
> > advantage
> > > >> of the functionality they need (see for instance Candy for Appfuse
> > > >> <
> > http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be
> > > >>
> > >
> > -under-extreme-refactoring/<
> >
>
http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be-under-extreme-refactoring/
> > >>
> > > >> ).
> > > >>
> > > >> In any case the underlying Maven libraries used for both plugins are
> > the
> > > >> same (the Maven Embedder) and both plugin developers collaborate in
> > its
> > > >> development.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: news [mailto:news@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Chris
> > > >> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:45 PM
> > > >> To: users@maven.apache.org
> > > >> Subject: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the
> > > >>
> > > >> alternatives, and didn't come up with much.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Can someone tell me the differences?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed).
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >>
> > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> > > >>
> > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@maven.apache.org
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----
> > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/amuino Abel Muiño Vizcaino -
> > > http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com
> > > --
> > > View this message in context:
> > >
> >
> >
>
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Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
Posted by Rodrigo Madera <ro...@gmail.com>.
Nice work.
However there is a deprecated indicator on the OSGi Bundles item (under
Eclipse Developer).
What exactly do you mean with it?
As an OSGi developer I found it rather strange to see OSGi and deprecated on
the same sentence. =o)
Thanks,
Rodrigo
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 6:04 PM, <he...@free.fr> wrote:
> Since the question of choosing an Eclipse Integration is often asked, I
> just worked on the "Eclipse Integration" page from Maven Users Wiki:
> http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVENUSER/Eclipse+Integration
>
> I started a comparison matrix with basic project informations.
>
> This Wiki is public: feel free to improve the comparison.
>
> Selon Abel Muiño <am...@gmail.com>:
>
> >
> > As for the comparison between maven integration solutions, I know none
> but it
> > would be interesting if someone started one (like a google group and
> some
> > pages on it). Since I'm involved with q4e, it would not be a fair
> comparison
> > if I made it :-).
> >
> > I think it would be easy to have a "feature matrix" just if several
> users of
> > the different solutions exchanged opinions on a list.
> >
> > As for cleaning the project from the shell... if you use eclipse, you'll
> > need to refresh/rebuild the workspace. This is not a problem with the
> > plug-ins, but something that goes deep in the eclipse architecture.
> >
> >
> > Rodrigo Madera wrote:
> > >
> > > Since you are on the topic, do you know if any of these have trouble
> if
> > > you
> > > go to a shell and do a `mvn clean` on the project?
> > >
> > > I have a plugin (dont remember its name) that integrates Maven nicely,
> but
> > > is allergic to the (sometimes needed) cleaning.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Rodrigo
> > >
> > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 2:09 AM, Jason Chaffee <
> jason_chaffee@tvworks.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I found the following FAQ about Q4E:
> > >> http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/FAQ
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Features
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> * running Maven goals from the IDE
> > >> * dependency managing using the Maven POM, with automatic
> download
> > >> of dependencies
> > >> * keeping Eclipse classpath synchronized with Maven POM
> > >> * dependency graphing
> > >> <http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/DependencyGraphViewer>
> > >> * direct import of Maven 2 projects
> > >> * wizard for creation of new projects using the archetype
> > >> mechanism
> > >> * modular approach to improve reusability by other Eclipse
> > >> projects
> > >> * ability to import parent projects (pom projects)
> > >> <http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/ImportingMultiprojects> (from
> 0.5.0)
> > >>
> > >> * ability to cancel maven builds (from 0.5.0)
> > >> * dependency analysis tooling (from 0.5.0)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> What are the differences between this plugin and m2eclipse (aka
> Tycho)?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The objective of this plugin is to be part of the Eclipse Foundation
> > >> <http://www.eclipse.org> , for that reason the license is EPL and we
> are
> > >> going to follow the foundation procedures. Thanks to the sponsorship
> of
> > >> DevZuz <http://www.devzuz.com> , an Eclipse Strategic Developer
> Member
> > >> <http://www.eclipse.org/membership/showMember.php?member_id=824> we
> are
> > >> in a good position to achieve this goal.
> > >>
> > >> Besides the objective, there are technical differences. While
> m2eclipse
> > >> shows Maven output in a console, Q is based in events and will show
> them
> > >> in an organized way that allows filtering by severity, search,...
> > >> Functionality like the dependency graph, or creation of new projects
> > >> using the archetype mechanism are only present in Q.
> > >>
> > >> Also it's implemented in several modules with reusability and
> extension
> > >> in mind so other people can develop their own plugins taking
> advantage
> > >> of the functionality they need (see for instance Candy for Appfuse
> > >> <
> http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be
> > >>
> >
> -under-extreme-refactoring/<
> http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be-under-extreme-refactoring/
> >>
> > >> ).
> > >>
> > >> In any case the underlying Maven libraries used for both plugins are
> the
> > >> same (the Maven Embedder) and both plugin developers collaborate in
> its
> > >> development.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: news [mailto:news@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Chris
> > >> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:45 PM
> > >> To: users@maven.apache.org
> > >> Subject: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the
> > >>
> > >> alternatives, and didn't come up with much.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Can someone tell me the differences?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed).
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>
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> > >>
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > -----
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> > http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> >
>
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Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
Posted by Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org>.
I corrected the page as Eugene doesn't like the m2eclipse being called
Tycho. Tycho is actually a set of Maven plugins written by Tom that
enable an OSGi toolchain that has been used in production for a long
time. I'll document that, but the eclipse integration itself is just
called m2eclipse.
On 24-Feb-08, at 10:04 AM, herve.boutemy@free.fr wrote:
> Since the question of choosing an Eclipse Integration is often
> asked, I
> just worked on the "Eclipse Integration" page from Maven Users Wiki:
> http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVENUSER/Eclipse+Integration
>
> I started a comparison matrix with basic project informations.
>
> This Wiki is public: feel free to improve the comparison.
>
> Selon Abel Muiño <am...@gmail.com>:
>
>>
>> As for the comparison between maven integration solutions, I know
>> none but it
>> would be interesting if someone started one (like a google group
>> and some
>> pages on it). Since I'm involved with q4e, it would not be a fair
>> comparison
>> if I made it :-).
>>
>> I think it would be easy to have a "feature matrix" just if several
>> users of
>> the different solutions exchanged opinions on a list.
>>
>> As for cleaning the project from the shell... if you use eclipse,
>> you'll
>> need to refresh/rebuild the workspace. This is not a problem with the
>> plug-ins, but something that goes deep in the eclipse architecture.
>>
>>
>> Rodrigo Madera wrote:
>>>
>>> Since you are on the topic, do you know if any of these have
>>> trouble if
>>> you
>>> go to a shell and do a `mvn clean` on the project?
>>>
>>> I have a plugin (dont remember its name) that integrates Maven
>>> nicely, but
>>> is allergic to the (sometimes needed) cleaning.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Rodrigo
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 2:09 AM, Jason Chaffee <jason_chaffee@tvworks.com
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I found the following FAQ about Q4E:
>>>> http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/FAQ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Features
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * running Maven goals from the IDE
>>>> * dependency managing using the Maven POM, with automatic
>>>> download
>>>> of dependencies
>>>> * keeping Eclipse classpath synchronized with Maven POM
>>>> * dependency graphing
>>>> <http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/DependencyGraphViewer>
>>>> * direct import of Maven 2 projects
>>>> * wizard for creation of new projects using the archetype
>>>> mechanism
>>>> * modular approach to improve reusability by other Eclipse
>>>> projects
>>>> * ability to import parent projects (pom projects)
>>>> <http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/ImportingMultiprojects> (from
>>>> 0.5.0)
>>>>
>>>> * ability to cancel maven builds (from 0.5.0)
>>>> * dependency analysis tooling (from 0.5.0)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What are the differences between this plugin and m2eclipse (aka
>>>> Tycho)?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The objective of this plugin is to be part of the Eclipse
>>>> Foundation
>>>> <http://www.eclipse.org> , for that reason the license is EPL and
>>>> we are
>>>> going to follow the foundation procedures. Thanks to the
>>>> sponsorship of
>>>> DevZuz <http://www.devzuz.com> , an Eclipse Strategic Developer
>>>> Member
>>>> <http://www.eclipse.org/membership/showMember.php?member_id=824>
>>>> we are
>>>> in a good position to achieve this goal.
>>>>
>>>> Besides the objective, there are technical differences. While
>>>> m2eclipse
>>>> shows Maven output in a console, Q is based in events and will
>>>> show them
>>>> in an organized way that allows filtering by severity, search,...
>>>> Functionality like the dependency graph, or creation of new
>>>> projects
>>>> using the archetype mechanism are only present in Q.
>>>>
>>>> Also it's implemented in several modules with reusability and
>>>> extension
>>>> in mind so other people can develop their own plugins taking
>>>> advantage
>>>> of the functionality they need (see for instance Candy for Appfuse
>>>> <http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be
>>>>
>>
> -under-extreme-refactoring/<http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be-under-extreme-refactoring/
> >>
>>>> ).
>>>>
>>>> In any case the underlying Maven libraries used for both plugins
>>>> are the
>>>> same (the Maven Embedder) and both plugin developers collaborate
>>>> in its
>>>> development.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: news [mailto:news@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Chris
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:45 PM
>>>> To: users@maven.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>> alternatives, and didn't come up with much.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can someone tell me the differences?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>> http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>>
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>> Sent from the Maven - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
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Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
Posted by he...@free.fr.
Since the question of choosing an Eclipse Integration is often asked, I
just worked on the "Eclipse Integration" page from Maven Users Wiki:
http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVENUSER/Eclipse+Integration
I started a comparison matrix with basic project informations.
This Wiki is public: feel free to improve the comparison.
Selon Abel Muiño <am...@gmail.com>:
>
> As for the comparison between maven integration solutions, I know none but it
> would be interesting if someone started one (like a google group and some
> pages on it). Since I'm involved with q4e, it would not be a fair comparison
> if I made it :-).
>
> I think it would be easy to have a "feature matrix" just if several users of
> the different solutions exchanged opinions on a list.
>
> As for cleaning the project from the shell... if you use eclipse, you'll
> need to refresh/rebuild the workspace. This is not a problem with the
> plug-ins, but something that goes deep in the eclipse architecture.
>
>
> Rodrigo Madera wrote:
> >
> > Since you are on the topic, do you know if any of these have trouble if
> > you
> > go to a shell and do a `mvn clean` on the project?
> >
> > I have a plugin (dont remember its name) that integrates Maven nicely, but
> > is allergic to the (sometimes needed) cleaning.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Rodrigo
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 2:09 AM, Jason Chaffee <ja...@tvworks.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I found the following FAQ about Q4E:
> >> http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/FAQ
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Features
> >>
> >>
> >> * running Maven goals from the IDE
> >> * dependency managing using the Maven POM, with automatic download
> >> of dependencies
> >> * keeping Eclipse classpath synchronized with Maven POM
> >> * dependency graphing
> >> <http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/DependencyGraphViewer>
> >> * direct import of Maven 2 projects
> >> * wizard for creation of new projects using the archetype
> >> mechanism
> >> * modular approach to improve reusability by other Eclipse
> >> projects
> >> * ability to import parent projects (pom projects)
> >> <http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/ImportingMultiprojects> (from 0.5.0)
> >>
> >> * ability to cancel maven builds (from 0.5.0)
> >> * dependency analysis tooling (from 0.5.0)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> What are the differences between this plugin and m2eclipse (aka Tycho)?
> >>
> >>
> >> The objective of this plugin is to be part of the Eclipse Foundation
> >> <http://www.eclipse.org> , for that reason the license is EPL and we are
> >> going to follow the foundation procedures. Thanks to the sponsorship of
> >> DevZuz <http://www.devzuz.com> , an Eclipse Strategic Developer Member
> >> <http://www.eclipse.org/membership/showMember.php?member_id=824> we are
> >> in a good position to achieve this goal.
> >>
> >> Besides the objective, there are technical differences. While m2eclipse
> >> shows Maven output in a console, Q is based in events and will show them
> >> in an organized way that allows filtering by severity, search,...
> >> Functionality like the dependency graph, or creation of new projects
> >> using the archetype mechanism are only present in Q.
> >>
> >> Also it's implemented in several modules with reusability and extension
> >> in mind so other people can develop their own plugins taking advantage
> >> of the functionality they need (see for instance Candy for Appfuse
> >> <http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be
> >>
>
-under-extreme-refactoring/<http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be-under-extreme-refactoring/>>
> >> ).
> >>
> >> In any case the underlying Maven libraries used for both plugins are the
> >> same (the Maven Embedder) and both plugin developers collaborate in its
> >> development.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: news [mailto:news@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Chris
> >> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:45 PM
> >> To: users@maven.apache.org
> >> Subject: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the
> >>
> >> alternatives, and didn't come up with much.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Can someone tell me the differences?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
Posted by he...@free.fr.
Since the question of choosing an Eclipse Integration is often asked, I
just worked on the "Eclipse Integration" page from Maven Users Wiki:
http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVENUSER/Eclipse+Integration
I started a comparison matrix with basic project informations.
This Wiki is public: feel free to improve the comparison.
Selon Abel Muiño <am...@gmail.com>:
>
> As for the comparison between maven integration solutions, I know none but it
> would be interesting if someone started one (like a google group and some
> pages on it). Since I'm involved with q4e, it would not be a fair comparison
> if I made it :-).
>
> I think it would be easy to have a "feature matrix" just if several users of
> the different solutions exchanged opinions on a list.
>
> As for cleaning the project from the shell... if you use eclipse, you'll
> need to refresh/rebuild the workspace. This is not a problem with the
> plug-ins, but something that goes deep in the eclipse architecture.
>
>
> Rodrigo Madera wrote:
> >
> > Since you are on the topic, do you know if any of these have trouble if
> > you
> > go to a shell and do a `mvn clean` on the project?
> >
> > I have a plugin (dont remember its name) that integrates Maven nicely, but
> > is allergic to the (sometimes needed) cleaning.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Rodrigo
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 2:09 AM, Jason Chaffee <ja...@tvworks.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I found the following FAQ about Q4E:
> >> http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/FAQ
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Features
> >>
> >>
> >> * running Maven goals from the IDE
> >> * dependency managing using the Maven POM, with automatic download
> >> of dependencies
> >> * keeping Eclipse classpath synchronized with Maven POM
> >> * dependency graphing
> >> <http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/DependencyGraphViewer>
> >> * direct import of Maven 2 projects
> >> * wizard for creation of new projects using the archetype
> >> mechanism
> >> * modular approach to improve reusability by other Eclipse
> >> projects
> >> * ability to import parent projects (pom projects)
> >> <http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/ImportingMultiprojects> (from 0.5.0)
> >>
> >> * ability to cancel maven builds (from 0.5.0)
> >> * dependency analysis tooling (from 0.5.0)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> What are the differences between this plugin and m2eclipse (aka Tycho)?
> >>
> >>
> >> The objective of this plugin is to be part of the Eclipse Foundation
> >> <http://www.eclipse.org> , for that reason the license is EPL and we are
> >> going to follow the foundation procedures. Thanks to the sponsorship of
> >> DevZuz <http://www.devzuz.com> , an Eclipse Strategic Developer Member
> >> <http://www.eclipse.org/membership/showMember.php?member_id=824> we are
> >> in a good position to achieve this goal.
> >>
> >> Besides the objective, there are technical differences. While m2eclipse
> >> shows Maven output in a console, Q is based in events and will show them
> >> in an organized way that allows filtering by severity, search,...
> >> Functionality like the dependency graph, or creation of new projects
> >> using the archetype mechanism are only present in Q.
> >>
> >> Also it's implemented in several modules with reusability and extension
> >> in mind so other people can develop their own plugins taking advantage
> >> of the functionality they need (see for instance Candy for Appfuse
> >> <http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be
> >>
>
-under-extreme-refactoring/<http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be-under-extreme-refactoring/>>
> >> ).
> >>
> >> In any case the underlying Maven libraries used for both plugins are the
> >> same (the Maven Embedder) and both plugin developers collaborate in its
> >> development.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: news [mailto:news@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Chris
> >> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:45 PM
> >> To: users@maven.apache.org
> >> Subject: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the
> >>
> >> alternatives, and didn't come up with much.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Can someone tell me the differences?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> >>
> >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@maven.apache.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> -----
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> http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com
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Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
Posted by Abel Muiño <am...@gmail.com>.
As for the comparison between maven integration solutions, I know none but it
would be interesting if someone started one (like a google group and some
pages on it). Since I'm involved with q4e, it would not be a fair comparison
if I made it :-).
I think it would be easy to have a "feature matrix" just if several users of
the different solutions exchanged opinions on a list.
As for cleaning the project from the shell... if you use eclipse, you'll
need to refresh/rebuild the workspace. This is not a problem with the
plug-ins, but something that goes deep in the eclipse architecture.
Rodrigo Madera wrote:
>
> Since you are on the topic, do you know if any of these have trouble if
> you
> go to a shell and do a `mvn clean` on the project?
>
> I have a plugin (dont remember its name) that integrates Maven nicely, but
> is allergic to the (sometimes needed) cleaning.
>
> Thanks,
> Rodrigo
>
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 2:09 AM, Jason Chaffee <ja...@tvworks.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I found the following FAQ about Q4E:
>> http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/FAQ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Features
>>
>>
>> * running Maven goals from the IDE
>> * dependency managing using the Maven POM, with automatic download
>> of dependencies
>> * keeping Eclipse classpath synchronized with Maven POM
>> * dependency graphing
>> <http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/DependencyGraphViewer>
>> * direct import of Maven 2 projects
>> * wizard for creation of new projects using the archetype
>> mechanism
>> * modular approach to improve reusability by other Eclipse
>> projects
>> * ability to import parent projects (pom projects)
>> <http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/ImportingMultiprojects> (from 0.5.0)
>>
>> * ability to cancel maven builds (from 0.5.0)
>> * dependency analysis tooling (from 0.5.0)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> What are the differences between this plugin and m2eclipse (aka Tycho)?
>>
>>
>> The objective of this plugin is to be part of the Eclipse Foundation
>> <http://www.eclipse.org> , for that reason the license is EPL and we are
>> going to follow the foundation procedures. Thanks to the sponsorship of
>> DevZuz <http://www.devzuz.com> , an Eclipse Strategic Developer Member
>> <http://www.eclipse.org/membership/showMember.php?member_id=824> we are
>> in a good position to achieve this goal.
>>
>> Besides the objective, there are technical differences. While m2eclipse
>> shows Maven output in a console, Q is based in events and will show them
>> in an organized way that allows filtering by severity, search,...
>> Functionality like the dependency graph, or creation of new projects
>> using the archetype mechanism are only present in Q.
>>
>> Also it's implemented in several modules with reusability and extension
>> in mind so other people can develop their own plugins taking advantage
>> of the functionality they need (see for instance Candy for Appfuse
>> <http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be
>> -under-extreme-refactoring/<http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be-under-extreme-refactoring/>>
>> ).
>>
>> In any case the underlying Maven libraries used for both plugins are the
>> same (the Maven Embedder) and both plugin developers collaborate in its
>> development.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: news [mailto:news@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Chris
>> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:45 PM
>> To: users@maven.apache.org
>> Subject: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
>>
>>
>>
>> I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the
>>
>> alternatives, and didn't come up with much.
>>
>>
>>
>> Can someone tell me the differences?
>>
>>
>>
>> (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
>>
>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@maven.apache.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
Posted by Rodrigo Madera <ro...@gmail.com>.
Since you are on the topic, do you know if any of these have trouble if you
go to a shell and do a `mvn clean` on the project?
I have a plugin (dont remember its name) that integrates Maven nicely, but
is allergic to the (sometimes needed) cleaning.
Thanks,
Rodrigo
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 2:09 AM, Jason Chaffee <ja...@tvworks.com>
wrote:
> I found the following FAQ about Q4E:
> http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/FAQ
>
>
>
>
> Features
>
>
> * running Maven goals from the IDE
> * dependency managing using the Maven POM, with automatic download
> of dependencies
> * keeping Eclipse classpath synchronized with Maven POM
> * dependency graphing
> <http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/DependencyGraphViewer>
> * direct import of Maven 2 projects
> * wizard for creation of new projects using the archetype
> mechanism
> * modular approach to improve reusability by other Eclipse
> projects
> * ability to import parent projects (pom projects)
> <http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/ImportingMultiprojects> (from 0.5.0)
>
> * ability to cancel maven builds (from 0.5.0)
> * dependency analysis tooling (from 0.5.0)
>
>
>
>
> What are the differences between this plugin and m2eclipse (aka Tycho)?
>
>
> The objective of this plugin is to be part of the Eclipse Foundation
> <http://www.eclipse.org> , for that reason the license is EPL and we are
> going to follow the foundation procedures. Thanks to the sponsorship of
> DevZuz <http://www.devzuz.com> , an Eclipse Strategic Developer Member
> <http://www.eclipse.org/membership/showMember.php?member_id=824> we are
> in a good position to achieve this goal.
>
> Besides the objective, there are technical differences. While m2eclipse
> shows Maven output in a console, Q is based in events and will show them
> in an organized way that allows filtering by severity, search,...
> Functionality like the dependency graph, or creation of new projects
> using the archetype mechanism are only present in Q.
>
> Also it's implemented in several modules with reusability and extension
> in mind so other people can develop their own plugins taking advantage
> of the functionality they need (see for instance Candy for Appfuse
> <http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be
> -under-extreme-refactoring/<http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be-under-extreme-refactoring/>>
> ).
>
> In any case the underlying Maven libraries used for both plugins are the
> same (the Maven Embedder) and both plugin developers collaborate in its
> development.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: news [mailto:news@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Chris
> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:45 PM
> To: users@maven.apache.org
> Subject: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
>
>
>
> I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the
>
> alternatives, and didn't come up with much.
>
>
>
> Can someone tell me the differences?
>
>
>
> (I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed).
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
>
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>
>
>
>
RE: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
Posted by Jason Chaffee <ja...@tvworks.com>.
I found the following FAQ about Q4E:
http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/FAQ
Features
* running Maven goals from the IDE
* dependency managing using the Maven POM, with automatic download
of dependencies
* keeping Eclipse classpath synchronized with Maven POM
* dependency graphing
<http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/DependencyGraphViewer>
* direct import of Maven 2 projects
* wizard for creation of new projects using the archetype
mechanism
* modular approach to improve reusability by other Eclipse
projects
* ability to import parent projects (pom projects)
<http://code.google.com/p/q4e/wiki/ImportingMultiprojects> (from 0.5.0)
* ability to cancel maven builds (from 0.5.0)
* dependency analysis tooling (from 0.5.0)
What are the differences between this plugin and m2eclipse (aka Tycho)?
The objective of this plugin is to be part of the Eclipse Foundation
<http://www.eclipse.org> , for that reason the license is EPL and we are
going to follow the foundation procedures. Thanks to the sponsorship of
DevZuz <http://www.devzuz.com> , an Eclipse Strategic Developer Member
<http://www.eclipse.org/membership/showMember.php?member_id=824> we are
in a good position to achieve this goal.
Besides the objective, there are technical differences. While m2eclipse
shows Maven output in a console, Q is based in events and will show them
in an organized way that allows filtering by severity, search,...
Functionality like the dependency graph, or creation of new projects
using the archetype mechanism are only present in Q.
Also it's implemented in several modules with reusability and extension
in mind so other people can develop their own plugins taking advantage
of the functionality they need (see for instance Candy for Appfuse
<http://ramblingabout.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/candy-for-appfuse-will-be
-under-extreme-refactoring/> ).
In any case the underlying Maven libraries used for both plugins are the
same (the Maven Embedder) and both plugin developers collaborate in its
development.
-----Original Message-----
From: news [mailto:news@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:45 PM
To: users@maven.apache.org
Subject: Mevenide vs. M2Eclipse, Q for Eclipse/IAM
I googled around to try to find a comparison between Mevenide and the
alternatives, and didn't come up with much.
Can someone tell me the differences?
(I've spend some time with m2eclipse, and I'm *not* impressed).
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