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Posted to dev@ant.apache.org by Groboclown <gr...@gmail.com> on 2004/12/06 22:52:55 UTC
New repository task
I've been out of the Ant developer discussions for about two or three
months now (way too much going on), and I'm trying to get caught up on
the repository task.
One thing I can't find is why this is being put into ant core and not
an optional task. Could anyone help me out here? Thanks.
--
-Matt
"So whatever you do, don't be bored, this is
absolutely the most exciting time we could have
possibly hoped to be alive. And things are just
starting." -- Waking Life
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Re: New repository task
Posted by Matt Benson <gu...@yahoo.com>.
--- Russell Gold <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 08:35:06 -0800 (PST), Matt Benson
> <gu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[SNIP]
> > tasks). Unless I have misunderstood it
> dependencies
> > is more Maven-centric than <repository> so I feel
[SNIP]
> I believe that you did misunderstand it. The
> <dependencies> task is
> not Maven-centric. It simply borrowed a lot of
> concepts as a starting
> point, but those were never essential to its
> definition.
My apologies. I hope the repository task ends up in a
form that is satisfactory to you as well.
-Matt
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Re: New repository task
Posted by Russell Gold <ru...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 08:35:06 -0800 (PST), Matt Benson
<gu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> When Russell first brought his dependencies task to
> the table, I reiterated the general policy regarding
> the introduction of new tasks, especially where they
> interacted with software other than Ant (aka optional
> tasks). Unless I have misunderstood it dependencies
> is more Maven-centric than <repository> so I feel that
> position was applicable.
I believe that you did misunderstand it. The <dependencies> task is
not Maven-centric. It simply borrowed a lot of concepts as a starting
point, but those were never essential to its definition.
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Re: New repository task
Posted by Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>.
On Wed, 8 Dec 2004, Matt Benson <gu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org> wrote:
> So I suppose that chain of events would suggest that the answer to
> your question is "yes", though "finally understood" makes the Ant
> committers sound like a bunch of dinosaurs. ;)
>
>> No, I'm not saying that.
>>
> Were you answering your own question there?
Nope, I probably didn't want to make it sounds as if the Ant
committers were a bunch dinosaurs ;-)
Stefan
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Re: New repository task
Posted by Matt Benson <gu...@yahoo.com>.
--- Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Dec 2004, Matt Benson
> <gu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
(edited for brevity)
> > See:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=109352312700007&r=1&w=2
> > (particularly DD's response)
> > and
>
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=ant-dev&m=109882328509244&w=2
>
> So you are saying that Ant committers have finally
> understood that
> dependency management should be a core issue to Ant?
>
When Russell first brought his dependencies task to
the table, I reiterated the general policy regarding
the introduction of new tasks, especially where they
interacted with software other than Ant (aka optional
tasks). Unless I have misunderstood it dependencies
is more Maven-centric than <repository> so I feel that
position was applicable. DD agreed that this had been
a guiding principle but asserted that with time would
come the need for a task of this particular type and
lo, Steve began working on his task presumably within
the next two months. So I suppose that chain of
events would suggest that the answer to your question
is "yes", though "finally understood" makes the Ant
committers sound like a bunch of dinosaurs. ;)
> No, I'm not saying that.
>
Were you answering your own question there?
> I do agree that any mechanism of dependency
> downloads could make
> antlib handling easier.
>
Feels like some interesting possibilities, yes.
-Matt
> Stefan
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Re: New repository task
Posted by Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>.
On Tue, 7 Dec 2004, Matt Benson <gu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 6 Dec 2004, Matt Benson
>> <gu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > It's a sign of the times...
>>
>> ????
>
> See:
>
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=109352312700007&r=1&w=2
> (particularly DD's response)
> and
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=ant-dev&m=109882328509244&w=2
So you are saying that Ant committers have finally understood that
dependency management should be a core issue to Ant?
No, I'm not saying that.
I do agree that any mechanism of dependency downloads could make
antlib handling easier.
Stefan
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Re: New repository task
Posted by Matt Benson <gu...@yahoo.com>.
--- Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Dec 2004, Matt Benson
> <gu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > It's a sign of the times...
>
> ????
See:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=109352312700007&r=1&w=2
(particularly DD's response)
and
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=ant-dev&m=109882328509244&w=2
-Matt
>
> Stefan
>
>
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Re: New repository task
Posted by Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>.
On Mon, 6 Dec 2004, Matt Benson <gu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> It's a sign of the times...
????
Stefan
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Re: New repository task
Posted by Matt Benson <gu...@yahoo.com>.
It's a sign of the times...
-Matt
--- Groboclown <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've been out of the Ant developer discussions for
> about two or three
> months now (way too much going on), and I'm trying
> to get caught up on
> the repository task.
>
> One thing I can't find is why this is being put into
> ant core and not
> an optional task. Could anyone help me out here?
> Thanks.
>
> --
> -Matt
> "So whatever you do, don't be bored, this is
> absolutely the most exciting time we could have
> possibly hoped to be alive. And things are just
> starting." -- Waking Life
>
>
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