Re: Is Ambari can be choice for new user??

[Brahma Reddy Battula <br...@apache.org>]

>
> Hi Matt Andruff
>
> Thanks for prompt reply, Please check inline response with blue color.
>
> BRB:: Looks like there are no active releases recently,any suggestions to
> new users to use Ambari ??
> Matt:: There's lots of active development.  You can make your own build
> any time.
> BRB:: Last release from the amabri community is on Dec,2019.. Since then
> there are no releases and no commits has been made. *https://github.com/apache/ambari/graphs/code-frequency
> <https://github.com/apache/ambari/graphs/code-frequency>.. Hence I am in
> that impression.Please do correct me if I am wrong.*
>
> I think you are incorrect there are merge requests and merges made all the
> time: https://github.com/apache/ambari/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aclosed

If you have questions about development though you should post them to the
> developer thread not the user thread.  You might find that more helpful.


Forwarding the mail to devlist.


> BRB::A) Amb ari Can support the stacks with tarball ??
> Matt:: No but if you have a tarball you can build a repo of your choice.
> And it does work with repos.  There is lots of documentation about how to
> build repos on the internet.
> BRB:: Ok, I will try check the docuementation for this.. Let me know if
> you've direct links.
>
> BRB:: B) Any scalability issues are there?? How much it’s scalable??
> Matt:: Define scalable.  What metrics are you trying to hit?  Ambari helps
> deploy configuration, could you help describe your specific concern
> with scalability?
> BRB:: How scalable with number of nodes.. E.x. 3000 node cluster can be
> installed, with these nodes all the functionality can work normally (any
> latency delays)..?  Any monitroing or operatios can be delayed..? any
> pointers to this direction.
>
I haven't managed a 3000 node cluster. I'll let someone else reply.  Here's
> a tuning guide that contains recommendations for up to 1600 nodes
> <https://docs.cloudera.com/HDPDocuments/Ambari-2.6.2.0/bk_ambari-administration/content/ch_tuning_ambari_performance.html>.
> I am not saying that is the CAP, just what I could find with a quick google.


Thanks for the above link..Currently we are checking 3000 node cluster
installations.


>
>
> BRB:: C) Service level upgrade can be supported ??
> Matt:: I don't understand the question.  Do you mean can you purchase
> support?
> BRB:: I mean, when hive,hadoop,hbase are installed, can I upgrade only
> hive (dn't want to upgrade all the services)..?
>
Yes, you can upgrade.


Thanks. It will be a good option..It's recently developed..?


>
> BRB:: D) Any opensource distribution version can be supported?
> Matt:: It can be customized to manage the configuration of any open source
> project.  But it's open source, you need to bring your own developers to
> support your own projects.  There is out of the box support for the
> projects you requested.
> BRB:: Ok, thanks.. Will check.
>
>
> Matt::  E) Multiple clusters:  I'll let someone else speak to that the
> answer used to be no. (Here's an old post
> <https://community.cloudera.com/t5/Support-Questions/Multiple-clusters-on-Ambari/td-p/119809>on
> the subject)
> BRB:: Ok.Looks this support is not there..
>
Well that's an old post so maybe look at the feature set for the new
> version of Ambari(3.0) it may have it.


Where can I check Ambari-3.0 feature list..?


>
> Matt:: F) Scripts -> you need to better define what you want to do.  There
> are lots of things you can do with Alerts
> <https://docs.cloudera.com/HDPDocuments/Ambari-latest/managing-and-monitoring-ambari/content/amb_ambari_alerts.html> to
> have scripts run and report on hosts.  Your question isn't clear so I don't
> want to really answer without a better understanding of what you are
> wanting to accomplish.
>
> BRB:: let me make it clear.. I want to collect data from host/service
> with my own script....
>
Check out the link to Alerts I provided above. It sounds like it will give
> you what you're looking for.


Ok. thanks

>
>
> *And one more question, how security vulenriablities are addressed..?*
>
Again, probably a question for the developer mailing list.  I would review
> the merges to see how they are addressed.


Ok, marking dev list also.

 *one more question, currently any companies are using the ambari..? Looks
like HDP/CDH is not sponsoring now ,will that affect the community..?*


On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 11:32 PM Matt Andruff <ma...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 12:44 PM Brahma Reddy Battula <br...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Matt Andruff
>>
>> Thanks for prompt reply, Please check inline response with blue color.
>>
>> BRB:: Looks like there are no active releases recently,any suggestions to
>> new users to use Ambari ??
>> Matt:: There's lots of active development.  You can make your own build
>> any time.
>> BRB:: Last release from the amabri community is on Dec,2019.. Since then
>> there are no releases and no commits has been made. *https://github.com/apache/ambari/graphs/code-frequency
>> <https://github.com/apache/ambari/graphs/code-frequency>.. Hence I am in
>> that impression.Please do correct me if I am wrong.*
>>
>> I think you are incorrect there are merge requests and merges made all
> the time: https://github.com/apache/ambari/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aclosed
> If you have questions about development though you should post them to the
> developer thread not the user thread.  You might find that more helpful.
>
>
>> BRB::A) Amb ari Can support the stacks with tarball ??
>> Matt:: No but if you have a tarball you can build a repo of your choice.
>> And it does work with repos.  There is lots of documentation about how to
>> build repos on the internet.
>> BRB:: Ok, I will try check the docuementation for this.. Let me know if
>> you've direct links.
>>
>> BRB:: B) Any scalability issues are there?? How much it’s scalable??
>> Matt:: Define scalable.  What metrics are you trying to hit?  Ambari
>> helps deploy configuration, could you help describe your specific concern
>> with scalability?
>> BRB:: How scalable with number of nodes.. E.x. 3000 node cluster can be
>> installed, with these nodes all the functionality can work normally (any
>> latency delays)..?  Any monitroing or operatios can be delayed..? any
>> pointers to this direction.
>>
> I haven't managed a 3000 node cluster. I'll let someone else reply.
> Here's a tuning guide that contains recommendations for up to 1600 nodes
> <https://docs.cloudera.com/HDPDocuments/Ambari-2.6.2.0/bk_ambari-administration/content/ch_tuning_ambari_performance.html>.
> I am not saying that is the CAP, just what I could find with a quick google.
>
>
>>
>>
>> BRB:: C) Service level upgrade can be supported ??
>> Matt:: I don't understand the question.  Do you mean can you purchase
>> support?
>> BRB:: I mean, when hive,hadoop,hbase are installed, can I upgrade only
>> hive (dn't want to upgrade all the services)..?
>>
> Yes, you can upgrade.
>
>>
>> BRB:: D) Any opensource distribution version can be supported?
>> Matt:: It can be customized to manage the configuration of any open
>> source project.  But it's open source, you need to bring your own
>> developers to support your own projects.  There is out of the box support
>> for the projects you requested.
>> BRB:: Ok, thanks.. Will check.
>>
>>
>> Matt::  E) Multiple clusters:  I'll let someone else speak to that the
>> answer used to be no. (Here's an old post
>> <https://community.cloudera.com/t5/Support-Questions/Multiple-clusters-on-Ambari/td-p/119809>on
>> the subject)
>> BRB:: Ok.Looks this support is not there..
>>
> Well that's an old post so maybe look at the feature set for the new
> version of Ambari(3.0) it may have it.
>
>>
>> Matt:: F) Scripts -> you need to better define what you want to do.
>> There are lots of things you can do with Alerts
>> <https://docs.cloudera.com/HDPDocuments/Ambari-latest/managing-and-monitoring-ambari/content/amb_ambari_alerts.html> to
>> have scripts run and report on hosts.  Your question isn't clear so I don't
>> want to really answer without a better understanding of what you are
>> wanting to accomplish.
>>
>> BRB:: let me make it clear.. I want to collect data from host/service
>> with my own script....
>>
> Check out the link to Alerts I provided above. It sounds like it will give
> you what you're looking for.
>
>
>>
>>
>> *And one more question, how security vulenriablities are addressed..?*
>>
> Again, probably a question for the developer mailing list.  I would review
> the merges to see how they are addressed.
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 1:40 AM Matt Andruff <ma...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like there are no active releases recently,any suggestions to new
>>> users to use Ambari ??
>>>
>>> There's lots of active development.  You can make your own build any
>>> time.
>>>
>>> A) Ambari Can support the stacks with tarball ??
>>> No but if you have a tarball you can build a repo of your choice.  And
>>> it does work with repos.  There is lots of documentation about how to build
>>> repos on the internet.
>>>
>>> B) Any scalability issues are there?? How much it’s scalable??
>>> Define scalable.  What metrics are you trying to hit?  Ambari helps
>>> deploy configuration, could you help describe your specific concern
>>> with scalability?
>>>
>>> C) Service level upgrade can be supported ??
>>> I don't understand the question.  Do you mean can you purchase support?
>>>
>>> D) Any opensource distribution version can be supported?
>>> It can be customized to manage the configuration of any open source
>>> project.  But it's open source, you need to bring your own developers to
>>> support your own projects.  There is out of the box support for the
>>> projects you requested.
>>>
>>> E) Multiple clusters:  I'll let someone else speak to that the answer
>>> used to be no. (Here's an old post
>>> <https://community.cloudera.com/t5/Support-Questions/Multiple-clusters-on-Ambari/td-p/119809>on
>>> the subject)
>>>
>>> F) Scripts -> you need to better define what you want to do.  There are
>>> lots of things you can do with Alerts
>>> <https://docs.cloudera.com/HDPDocuments/Ambari-latest/managing-and-monitoring-ambari/content/amb_ambari_alerts.html>
>>> to have scripts run and report on hosts.  Your question isn't clear so I
>>> don't want to really answer without a better understanding of what you are
>>> wanting to accomplish.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 3:44 PM Brahma Reddy Battula <br...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Looks there are no active releases recently,any suggestions to new
>>>> users to use Ambari ??
>>>>
>>>> May be currently whoever uses the Ambari can address the following
>>>> (heard that companies moving away from Ambari)
>>>>
>>>> A) Ambari Can support the stacks with tarball ??
>>>> B) Any scalability issues are there?? How much it’s scalable??
>>>> C) Service level upgrade can be supported ??
>>>> D) Any opensource distribution version can be supported?? At least
>>>> Hadoop,hive,hbase and zookeeper
>>>> E) Multiple cluster can be maintained by single Ambari server?? I mean
>>>> ,different clusters not federated,Hope federated support already there.
>>>> F) Scripts can be pluggale to run on any host?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> --Brahma Reddy Battula
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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