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Posted to users@myfaces.apache.org by Murat Hazer <mu...@gmail.com> on 2006/03/24 16:15:03 UTC
JSF and Tiles
Hi,
Is there a good tutorial introduces tiles and usage of it with JSF, or is
there any other good templating framework for JSF?
Regards
--
Murat HAZER
Elektrik-Elektronik Mühendisi - Electrical-Electronics Engineer
Re: JSF and Tiles
Posted by Alexandre Poitras <al...@gmail.com>.
Tiles can have some issues with JSF. I suggest you to look at Facelets
or Shale Clay wich are native JSF view technologies.
On 3/24/06, Murat Hazer <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is there a good tutorial introduces tiles and usage of it with JSF, or is
> there any other good templating framework for JSF?
>
> Regards
> --
> Murat HAZER
> Elektrik-Elektronik Mühendisi - Electrical-Electronics Engineer
>
>
--
Alexandre Poitras
Québec, Canada
Re: JSF and Tiles
Posted by Murat Hazer <mu...@gmail.com>.
Thanks all of you, i will consider with facelets and Shale/Clay.
On 3/24/06, Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at> wrote:
>
> Greg Reddin wrote:
> >
> > On Mar 24, 2006, at 9:15 AM, Murat Hazer wrote:
> >
> >> Is there a good tutorial introduces tiles and usage of it with JSF,
> >> or is there any other good templating framework for JSF?
> >
> >
> > If you'/re starting from scratch with no knowledge of Tiles, I'd
> > recommend starting with Facelets or Clay. I have no experience with
> > either, but, as has been pointed out already, they are "native" JSF
> > technologies, whereas Tiles was conceived in a world without JSF and
> > the integration can be problematic. If you like Tiles I'd ask you to
> > check out the Standalone version that is currently in the sandbox. A
> > (mostly) working version is available and I am trying to push forward
> > with it. By the end of that process it will be much easier to use
> > Tiles with JSF, although still probably not seamless. Stay tuned.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> >
> I can second that, although the tiles approach in JSF is way saner with
> 1/3rd less glue code in xml thank in Struts, it still is a somewhat
> rough experience, with many internal issues.
> If you can, omit tiles and go for something else.
> The options have been mentioned.
>
>
--
Murat HAZER
Elektrik-Elektronik Mühendisi - Electrical-Electronics Engineer
Tel - Phone: +90 222 335 05 80 - 1395
Cep Tel - Mobile Phone: +90 532 472 00 63
Blog URL: http://www.projedunyasi.org
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Re: JSF and Tiles
Posted by Hubert Rabago <hr...@gmail.com>.
On 3/24/06, Alexandre Poitras <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why do you want to use JSP? JSP is not a very good choice for JSF
> applications, there are way better choice out there.
>
> But if you absolutely want to use JSP, Shale Clay can work in a JSP mode.
This line was too close to the next line I almost didn't see it.
Thanks for this info. I guess I'll start bugging Gary now.
Hubert
> On 3/24/06, Hubert Rabago <hr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > From what I understand, Facelets doesn't work with JSP. Neither does
> > Clay. Are there alternatives to Tiles that I can use with JSF that
> > work with JSP? (...and doesn't have the Tiles problems mentioned in
> > this thread?)
> >
> > Hubert
Re: JSF and Tiles
Posted by Hubert Rabago <hr...@gmail.com>.
Let's just say that this particular decision is above my pay grade.
Hubert
On 3/24/06, Alexandre Poitras <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why do you want to use JSP? JSP is not a very good choice for JSF
> applications, there are way better choice out there.
>
> But if you absolutely want to use JSP, Shale Clay can work in a JSP mode.
> On 3/24/06, Hubert Rabago <hr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 3/24/06, Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at> wrote:
> > > Greg Reddin wrote:
> > > > If you'/re starting from scratch with no knowledge of Tiles, I'd
> > > > recommend starting with Facelets or Clay. I have no experience with
> > > > either, but, as has been pointed out already, they are "native" JSF
> > > > technologies, whereas Tiles was conceived in a world without JSF and
> > > > the integration can be problematic.
> > >
> > > I can second that, although the tiles approach in JSF is way saner with
> > > 1/3rd less glue code in xml thank in Struts, it still is a somewhat
> > > rough experience, with many internal issues.
> > > If you can, omit tiles and go for something else.
> > > The options have been mentioned.
> >
> > From what I understand, Facelets doesn't work with JSP. Neither does
> > Clay. Are there alternatives to Tiles that I can use with JSF that
> > work with JSP? (...and doesn't have the Tiles problems mentioned in
> > this thread?)
> >
> > Hubert
> >
>
>
> --
> Alexandre Poitras
> Québec, Canada
>
Re: JSF and Tiles
Posted by Alexandre Poitras <al...@gmail.com>.
Why do you want to use JSP? JSP is not a very good choice for JSF
applications, there are way better choice out there.
But if you absolutely want to use JSP, Shale Clay can work in a JSP mode.
On 3/24/06, Hubert Rabago <hr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 3/24/06, Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at> wrote:
> > Greg Reddin wrote:
> > > If you'/re starting from scratch with no knowledge of Tiles, I'd
> > > recommend starting with Facelets or Clay. I have no experience with
> > > either, but, as has been pointed out already, they are "native" JSF
> > > technologies, whereas Tiles was conceived in a world without JSF and
> > > the integration can be problematic.
> >
> > I can second that, although the tiles approach in JSF is way saner with
> > 1/3rd less glue code in xml thank in Struts, it still is a somewhat
> > rough experience, with many internal issues.
> > If you can, omit tiles and go for something else.
> > The options have been mentioned.
>
> From what I understand, Facelets doesn't work with JSP. Neither does
> Clay. Are there alternatives to Tiles that I can use with JSF that
> work with JSP? (...and doesn't have the Tiles problems mentioned in
> this thread?)
>
> Hubert
>
--
Alexandre Poitras
Québec, Canada
Re: JSF and Tiles
Posted by Hubert Rabago <hr...@gmail.com>.
On 3/24/06, Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at> wrote:
> Greg Reddin wrote:
> > If you'/re starting from scratch with no knowledge of Tiles, I'd
> > recommend starting with Facelets or Clay. I have no experience with
> > either, but, as has been pointed out already, they are "native" JSF
> > technologies, whereas Tiles was conceived in a world without JSF and
> > the integration can be problematic.
>
> I can second that, although the tiles approach in JSF is way saner with
> 1/3rd less glue code in xml thank in Struts, it still is a somewhat
> rough experience, with many internal issues.
> If you can, omit tiles and go for something else.
> The options have been mentioned.
>From what I understand, Facelets doesn't work with JSP. Neither does
Clay. Are there alternatives to Tiles that I can use with JSF that
work with JSP? (...and doesn't have the Tiles problems mentioned in
this thread?)
Hubert
Re: JSF and Tiles
Posted by Alexandre Poitras <al...@gmail.com>.
It works for me :)
On 3/29/06, Dean Hiller <de...@xsoftware.biz> wrote:
> not only that, facelets 1.1.1 did not work on tomcat 5.5 for me. Only
> worked on 5.0. I don't know if that is facelets instability or tomcats.
> dean
>
> Igor Marakov wrote:
>
> >Cool has nothing to do with it. Examples are there to provide starting point
> >for the technology and supposed to be running 'out of the box'. If I have
> >problems getting examples for two consecutive releases to work, something
> >tells me that risk of using this particular technology in real life is
> >unacceptably high.
> >
> >Like I said, it is just my personal opinion. Your mileage may vary.
> >
> >Igor
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Adam Winer [mailto:awiner@gmail.com]
> >Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 10:14 PM
> >To: MyFaces Discussion
> >Subject: Re: JSF and Tiles
> >
> >Uh, so basically you're saying you never actually used
> >it, but you can also claim it'll be a year before it's ready
> >for a serious production app? Not cool...
> >
> >-- Adam
> >
> >
> >
> >On 3/26/06, Igor Marakov <ig...@ivmsystems.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I haven't seen 1.1 version. Dropped the idea after not being able to get
> >>examples for 1.0.6 and 1.0.7 to work.
> >>
> >>Igor
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Adam Winer [mailto:awiner@gmail.com]
> >>Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 11:53 AM
> >>To: MyFaces Discussion
> >>Subject: Re: JSF and Tiles
> >>
> >>On 3/25/06, Igor Marakov <ig...@ivmsystems.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>On the other hand, both Facelets and Shale/Clay are still too (IMO)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>immature
> >>
> >>
> >>>to become a basis for serious production app. Next year maybe...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Have you used Facelets recently? In my opinion, Facelets 1.1 is
> >>very much ready for prime time. And given my day job, I have
> >>very high standards for "ready for prime time".
> >>
> >>If I were starting a new project today, I wouldn't consider using
> >>JSPs (much less Tiles).
> >>
> >>-- Adam Winer
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
--
Alexandre Poitras
Québec, Canada
Re: JSF and Tiles
Posted by Dean Hiller <de...@xsoftware.biz>.
not only that, facelets 1.1.1 did not work on tomcat 5.5 for me. Only
worked on 5.0. I don't know if that is facelets instability or tomcats.
dean
Igor Marakov wrote:
>Cool has nothing to do with it. Examples are there to provide starting point
>for the technology and supposed to be running 'out of the box'. If I have
>problems getting examples for two consecutive releases to work, something
>tells me that risk of using this particular technology in real life is
>unacceptably high.
>
>Like I said, it is just my personal opinion. Your mileage may vary.
>
>Igor
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Adam Winer [mailto:awiner@gmail.com]
>Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 10:14 PM
>To: MyFaces Discussion
>Subject: Re: JSF and Tiles
>
>Uh, so basically you're saying you never actually used
>it, but you can also claim it'll be a year before it's ready
>for a serious production app? Not cool...
>
>-- Adam
>
>
>
>On 3/26/06, Igor Marakov <ig...@ivmsystems.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I haven't seen 1.1 version. Dropped the idea after not being able to get
>>examples for 1.0.6 and 1.0.7 to work.
>>
>>Igor
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Adam Winer [mailto:awiner@gmail.com]
>>Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 11:53 AM
>>To: MyFaces Discussion
>>Subject: Re: JSF and Tiles
>>
>>On 3/25/06, Igor Marakov <ig...@ivmsystems.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On the other hand, both Facelets and Shale/Clay are still too (IMO)
>>>
>>>
>>immature
>>
>>
>>>to become a basis for serious production app. Next year maybe...
>>>
>>>
>>Have you used Facelets recently? In my opinion, Facelets 1.1 is
>>very much ready for prime time. And given my day job, I have
>>very high standards for "ready for prime time".
>>
>>If I were starting a new project today, I wouldn't consider using
>>JSPs (much less Tiles).
>>
>>-- Adam Winer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
RE: JSF and Tiles
Posted by Frank Felix Debatin <ff...@gmx.net>.
Hi Igor,
all of our web development environments are pretty fragile - there are just
too many components with different versions and different implementations,
and I think everybody had his or her nightmare experiences.
I need to say that for me Facelets was the only exception. It just worked
out of the box.
Frank Felix
-----Original Message-----
From: Igor Marakov [mailto:igor__m@ivmsystems.com]
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 8:53 AM
To: 'MyFaces Discussion'
Subject: RE: JSF and Tiles
Cool has nothing to do with it. Examples are there to provide starting point
for the technology and supposed to be running 'out of the box'. If I have
problems getting examples for two consecutive releases to work, something
tells me that risk of using this particular technology in real life is
unacceptably high.
Like I said, it is just my personal opinion. Your mileage may vary.
Igor
-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Winer [mailto:awiner@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 10:14 PM
To: MyFaces Discussion
Subject: Re: JSF and Tiles
Uh, so basically you're saying you never actually used it, but you can also
claim it'll be a year before it's ready for a serious production app? Not
cool...
-- Adam
On 3/26/06, Igor Marakov <ig...@ivmsystems.com> wrote:
> I haven't seen 1.1 version. Dropped the idea after not being able to
> get examples for 1.0.6 and 1.0.7 to work.
>
> Igor
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam Winer [mailto:awiner@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 11:53 AM
> To: MyFaces Discussion
> Subject: Re: JSF and Tiles
>
> On 3/25/06, Igor Marakov <ig...@ivmsystems.com> wrote:
> > On the other hand, both Facelets and Shale/Clay are still too (IMO)
> immature
> > to become a basis for serious production app. Next year maybe...
>
> Have you used Facelets recently? In my opinion, Facelets 1.1 is very
> much ready for prime time. And given my day job, I have very high
> standards for "ready for prime time".
>
> If I were starting a new project today, I wouldn't consider using JSPs
> (much less Tiles).
>
> -- Adam Winer
>
>
>
RE: JSF and Tiles
Posted by Igor Marakov <ig...@ivmsystems.com>.
Cool has nothing to do with it. Examples are there to provide starting point
for the technology and supposed to be running 'out of the box'. If I have
problems getting examples for two consecutive releases to work, something
tells me that risk of using this particular technology in real life is
unacceptably high.
Like I said, it is just my personal opinion. Your mileage may vary.
Igor
-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Winer [mailto:awiner@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 10:14 PM
To: MyFaces Discussion
Subject: Re: JSF and Tiles
Uh, so basically you're saying you never actually used
it, but you can also claim it'll be a year before it's ready
for a serious production app? Not cool...
-- Adam
On 3/26/06, Igor Marakov <ig...@ivmsystems.com> wrote:
> I haven't seen 1.1 version. Dropped the idea after not being able to get
> examples for 1.0.6 and 1.0.7 to work.
>
> Igor
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam Winer [mailto:awiner@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 11:53 AM
> To: MyFaces Discussion
> Subject: Re: JSF and Tiles
>
> On 3/25/06, Igor Marakov <ig...@ivmsystems.com> wrote:
> > On the other hand, both Facelets and Shale/Clay are still too (IMO)
> immature
> > to become a basis for serious production app. Next year maybe...
>
> Have you used Facelets recently? In my opinion, Facelets 1.1 is
> very much ready for prime time. And given my day job, I have
> very high standards for "ready for prime time".
>
> If I were starting a new project today, I wouldn't consider using
> JSPs (much less Tiles).
>
> -- Adam Winer
>
>
>
Re: JSF and Tiles
Posted by Adam Winer <aw...@gmail.com>.
Uh, so basically you're saying you never actually used
it, but you can also claim it'll be a year before it's ready
for a serious production app? Not cool...
-- Adam
On 3/26/06, Igor Marakov <ig...@ivmsystems.com> wrote:
> I haven't seen 1.1 version. Dropped the idea after not being able to get
> examples for 1.0.6 and 1.0.7 to work.
>
> Igor
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam Winer [mailto:awiner@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 11:53 AM
> To: MyFaces Discussion
> Subject: Re: JSF and Tiles
>
> On 3/25/06, Igor Marakov <ig...@ivmsystems.com> wrote:
> > On the other hand, both Facelets and Shale/Clay are still too (IMO)
> immature
> > to become a basis for serious production app. Next year maybe...
>
> Have you used Facelets recently? In my opinion, Facelets 1.1 is
> very much ready for prime time. And given my day job, I have
> very high standards for "ready for prime time".
>
> If I were starting a new project today, I wouldn't consider using
> JSPs (much less Tiles).
>
> -- Adam Winer
>
>
>
RE: JSF and Tiles
Posted by Igor Marakov <ig...@ivmsystems.com>.
I haven't seen 1.1 version. Dropped the idea after not being able to get
examples for 1.0.6 and 1.0.7 to work.
Igor
-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Winer [mailto:awiner@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 11:53 AM
To: MyFaces Discussion
Subject: Re: JSF and Tiles
On 3/25/06, Igor Marakov <ig...@ivmsystems.com> wrote:
> On the other hand, both Facelets and Shale/Clay are still too (IMO)
immature
> to become a basis for serious production app. Next year maybe...
Have you used Facelets recently? In my opinion, Facelets 1.1 is
very much ready for prime time. And given my day job, I have
very high standards for "ready for prime time".
If I were starting a new project today, I wouldn't consider using
JSPs (much less Tiles).
-- Adam Winer
Re: JSF and Tiles
Posted by Adam Winer <aw...@gmail.com>.
On 3/25/06, Igor Marakov <ig...@ivmsystems.com> wrote:
> On the other hand, both Facelets and Shale/Clay are still too (IMO) immature
> to become a basis for serious production app. Next year maybe...
Have you used Facelets recently? In my opinion, Facelets 1.1 is
very much ready for prime time. And given my day job, I have
very high standards for "ready for prime time".
If I were starting a new project today, I wouldn't consider using
JSPs (much less Tiles).
-- Adam Winer
Re: JSF and Tiles
Posted by Alexandre Poitras <al...@gmail.com>.
Watch the JavaOne 2005 presentation I have linked previously.
On 3/24/06, Bjørn T Johansen <bt...@havleik.no> wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 19:59:45 +0100
> Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at> wrote:
>
> > Greg Reddin wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mar 24, 2006, at 9:15 AM, Murat Hazer wrote:
> > >
> > >> Is there a good tutorial introduces tiles and usage of it with JSF,
> > >> or is there any other good templating framework for JSF?
> > >
> > >
> > > If you'/re starting from scratch with no knowledge of Tiles, I'd
> > > recommend starting with Facelets or Clay. I have no experience with
> > > either, but, as has been pointed out already, they are "native" JSF
> > > technologies, whereas Tiles was conceived in a world without JSF and
> > > the integration can be problematic. If you like Tiles I'd ask you to
> > > check out the Standalone version that is currently in the sandbox. A
> > > (mostly) working version is available and I am trying to push forward
> > > with it. By the end of that process it will be much easier to use
> > > Tiles with JSF, although still probably not seamless. Stay tuned.
> > >
> > > Greg
> > >
> > >
> > I can second that, although the tiles approach in JSF is way saner with
> > 1/3rd less glue code in xml thank in Struts, it still is a somewhat
> > rough experience, with many internal issues.
> > If you can, omit tiles and go for something else.
> > The options have been mentioned.
> >
>
>
> I was just wondering what I am missing? I am running JSF and Tiles and have no problem using them together; am
> I doing something wrong? :)
>
>
> Regards,
>
> BTJ
>
--
Alexandre Poitras
Québec, Canada
RE: JSF and Tiles
Posted by Igor Marakov <ig...@ivmsystems.com>.
You aren't alone :)
After initial JSF learning curve, the only serious issue I had so far with
tiles/JSF combo is inability to use Tomahawk aliasBeans when including tiles
in the loop. But that can be circumvented by writing tile controller.
Other than that, overriding TilesViewHandler lets you hook into view
creation and rendering thus providing combined benefit of "tiled" layout and
basis for development of the functionality similar to Shale's
ViewController.
What is also nice here is the fact that Tiles itself have no learning curve
to speak of. Attentive reading of "advanced-tiles" PDF file and looking at
example provided with Myfaces are quite sufficient to get going.
On the other hand, both Facelets and Shale/Clay are still too (IMO) immature
to become a basis for serious production app. Next year maybe...
-----Original Message-----
From: Bjørn T Johansen [mailto:btj@havleik.no]
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 5:19 PM
To: users@myfaces.apache.org
Subject: Re: JSF and Tiles
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 19:59:45 +0100
Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at> wrote:
> Greg Reddin wrote:
> >
> > On Mar 24, 2006, at 9:15 AM, Murat Hazer wrote:
> >
> >> Is there a good tutorial introduces tiles and usage of it with JSF,
> >> or is there any other good templating framework for JSF?
> >
> >
> > If you'/re starting from scratch with no knowledge of Tiles, I'd
> > recommend starting with Facelets or Clay. I have no experience with
> > either, but, as has been pointed out already, they are "native" JSF
> > technologies, whereas Tiles was conceived in a world without JSF and
> > the integration can be problematic. If you like Tiles I'd ask you to
> > check out the Standalone version that is currently in the sandbox. A
> > (mostly) working version is available and I am trying to push forward
> > with it. By the end of that process it will be much easier to use
> > Tiles with JSF, although still probably not seamless. Stay tuned.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> >
> I can second that, although the tiles approach in JSF is way saner with
> 1/3rd less glue code in xml thank in Struts, it still is a somewhat
> rough experience, with many internal issues.
> If you can, omit tiles and go for something else.
> The options have been mentioned.
>
I was just wondering what I am missing? I am running JSF and Tiles and have
no problem using them together; am
I doing something wrong? :)
Regards,
BTJ
Re: JSF and Tiles
Posted by Bjørn T Johansen <bt...@havleik.no>.
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 19:59:45 +0100
Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at> wrote:
> Greg Reddin wrote:
> >
> > On Mar 24, 2006, at 9:15 AM, Murat Hazer wrote:
> >
> >> Is there a good tutorial introduces tiles and usage of it with JSF,
> >> or is there any other good templating framework for JSF?
> >
> >
> > If you'/re starting from scratch with no knowledge of Tiles, I'd
> > recommend starting with Facelets or Clay. I have no experience with
> > either, but, as has been pointed out already, they are "native" JSF
> > technologies, whereas Tiles was conceived in a world without JSF and
> > the integration can be problematic. If you like Tiles I'd ask you to
> > check out the Standalone version that is currently in the sandbox. A
> > (mostly) working version is available and I am trying to push forward
> > with it. By the end of that process it will be much easier to use
> > Tiles with JSF, although still probably not seamless. Stay tuned.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> >
> I can second that, although the tiles approach in JSF is way saner with
> 1/3rd less glue code in xml thank in Struts, it still is a somewhat
> rough experience, with many internal issues.
> If you can, omit tiles and go for something else.
> The options have been mentioned.
>
I was just wondering what I am missing? I am running JSF and Tiles and have no problem using them together; am
I doing something wrong? :)
Regards,
BTJ
Re: JSF and Tiles
Posted by Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at>.
Greg Reddin wrote:
>
> On Mar 24, 2006, at 9:15 AM, Murat Hazer wrote:
>
>> Is there a good tutorial introduces tiles and usage of it with JSF,
>> or is there any other good templating framework for JSF?
>
>
> If you'/re starting from scratch with no knowledge of Tiles, I'd
> recommend starting with Facelets or Clay. I have no experience with
> either, but, as has been pointed out already, they are "native" JSF
> technologies, whereas Tiles was conceived in a world without JSF and
> the integration can be problematic. If you like Tiles I'd ask you to
> check out the Standalone version that is currently in the sandbox. A
> (mostly) working version is available and I am trying to push forward
> with it. By the end of that process it will be much easier to use
> Tiles with JSF, although still probably not seamless. Stay tuned.
>
> Greg
>
>
I can second that, although the tiles approach in JSF is way saner with
1/3rd less glue code in xml thank in Struts, it still is a somewhat
rough experience, with many internal issues.
If you can, omit tiles and go for something else.
The options have been mentioned.
Re: JSF and Tiles
Posted by Greg Reddin <gr...@apache.org>.
On Mar 24, 2006, at 9:15 AM, Murat Hazer wrote:
> Is there a good tutorial introduces tiles and usage of it with JSF,
> or is there any other good templating framework for JSF?
If you'/re starting from scratch with no knowledge of Tiles, I'd
recommend starting with Facelets or Clay. I have no experience with
either, but, as has been pointed out already, they are "native" JSF
technologies, whereas Tiles was conceived in a world without JSF and
the integration can be problematic. If you like Tiles I'd ask you to
check out the Standalone version that is currently in the sandbox. A
(mostly) working version is available and I am trying to push forward
with it. By the end of that process it will be much easier to use
Tiles with JSF, although still probably not seamless. Stay tuned.
Greg
Re: JSF and Tiles
Posted by Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com>.
The tiles support for JSF is primarily there to allow people to port
existing tiles apps (or tiles knowledge) to JSF.
You should consider using facelets or Shale/Clay for templating with JSF.
You can find a list of articles on using Facelets here:
http://wiki.java.net/bin/view/Projects/FaceletsArticles
On 3/24/06, Murat Hazer <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is there a good tutorial introduces tiles and usage of it with JSF, or is
> there any other good templating framework for JSF?
>
> Regards
> --
> Murat HAZER
> Elektrik-Elektronik Mühendisi - Electrical-Electronics Engineer
>
>