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Posted to dev@wicket.apache.org by Michael Chang <th...@gmail.com> on 2008/01/06 16:37:26 UTC
Re: [GHOP] Issue 8 - Review Wicket Screen Cast: Markup Inheritence
Hi all,
I was wondering whether anyone has had problems opening any of the
files, and whether there are any submission procedures (e.g. uploads
to a certain place; or indicating somewhere that I have released these
videos under the appropriate license, etc.) or other issues left for
me to complete this task. Thanks!
Again, various versions of the screen cast can be found at:
http://rapidshare.com/files/80221432/MarkupInheritence-rc2.mkv.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/80819725/MarkupInheritence-rc2.avi.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/80823201/MI-final-rc2_audio.flv.html
--
Michael Chang
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Thank you.
Re: [GHOP] Issue 8 - Review Wicket Screen Cast: Markup Inheritence
Posted by Gerolf Seitz <ge...@gmail.com>.
On Jan 6, 2008 5:08 PM, Maurice Marrink <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Martijn,
>
> mkv files should be playable using vlc mediaplayer, yes it is also
> available for the mac.
> http://www.videolan.org/
that didn't work for me on winxp. avi version was fine though.
Gerolf
> <http://www.videolan.org/>
>
> Maurice
>
> On Jan 6, 2008 4:48 PM, Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I tried the mkv video previously but was unable to view it (I only
> > heard your voice).
> >
> > Downloading the AVI now (I have only one download per day ....)
> >
> > Martijn
> >
> >
> > On Jan 6, 2008 4:37 PM, Michael Chang <th...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I was wondering whether anyone has had problems opening any of the
> > > files, and whether there are any submission procedures (e.g. uploads
> > > to a certain place; or indicating somewhere that I have released these
> > > videos under the appropriate license, etc.) or other issues left for
> > > me to complete this task. Thanks!
> > >
> > > Again, various versions of the screen cast can be found at:
> > > http://rapidshare.com/files/80221432/MarkupInheritence-rc2.mkv.html
> > > http://rapidshare.com/files/80819725/MarkupInheritence-rc2.avi.html
> > > http://rapidshare.com/files/80823201/MI-final-rc2_audio.flv.html
> > >
> > > --
> > > Michael Chang
> > >
> > > Please note that not all formatting may be preserved in
> > > Office/Word/Powerpoint documents sent to me. Please use OpenDocument
> > > (not Open XML), HTML, and RTF where possible. See
> > > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Buy Wicket in Action: http://manning.com/dashorst
> > Apache Wicket 1.3.0 is released
> > Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3.0
> >
>
Re: [GHOP] Issue 8 - Review Wicket Screen Cast: Markup Inheritence
Posted by Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>.
And no, it doesn't work on mac, and yes I used vlc.
Martijn
On Jan 6, 2008 5:08 PM, Maurice Marrink <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Martijn,
>
> mkv files should be playable using vlc mediaplayer, yes it is also
> available for the mac.
> http://www.videolan.org/
>
> Maurice
>
>
> On Jan 6, 2008 4:48 PM, Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I tried the mkv video previously but was unable to view it (I only
> > heard your voice).
> >
> > Downloading the AVI now (I have only one download per day ....)
> >
> > Martijn
> >
> >
> > On Jan 6, 2008 4:37 PM, Michael Chang <th...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I was wondering whether anyone has had problems opening any of the
> > > files, and whether there are any submission procedures (e.g. uploads
> > > to a certain place; or indicating somewhere that I have released these
> > > videos under the appropriate license, etc.) or other issues left for
> > > me to complete this task. Thanks!
> > >
> > > Again, various versions of the screen cast can be found at:
> > > http://rapidshare.com/files/80221432/MarkupInheritence-rc2.mkv.html
> > > http://rapidshare.com/files/80819725/MarkupInheritence-rc2.avi.html
> > > http://rapidshare.com/files/80823201/MI-final-rc2_audio.flv.html
> > >
> > > --
> > > Michael Chang
> > >
> > > Please note that not all formatting may be preserved in
> > > Office/Word/Powerpoint documents sent to me. Please use OpenDocument
> > > (not Open XML), HTML, and RTF where possible. See
> > > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Buy Wicket in Action: http://manning.com/dashorst
> > Apache Wicket 1.3.0 is released
> > Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3.0
> >
>
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Re: [GHOP] Issue 8 - Review Wicket Screen Cast: Markup Inheritence
Posted by Maurice Marrink <ma...@gmail.com>.
Martijn,
mkv files should be playable using vlc mediaplayer, yes it is also
available for the mac.
http://www.videolan.org/
Maurice
On Jan 6, 2008 4:48 PM, Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I tried the mkv video previously but was unable to view it (I only
> heard your voice).
>
> Downloading the AVI now (I have only one download per day ....)
>
> Martijn
>
>
> On Jan 6, 2008 4:37 PM, Michael Chang <th...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I was wondering whether anyone has had problems opening any of the
> > files, and whether there are any submission procedures (e.g. uploads
> > to a certain place; or indicating somewhere that I have released these
> > videos under the appropriate license, etc.) or other issues left for
> > me to complete this task. Thanks!
> >
> > Again, various versions of the screen cast can be found at:
> > http://rapidshare.com/files/80221432/MarkupInheritence-rc2.mkv.html
> > http://rapidshare.com/files/80819725/MarkupInheritence-rc2.avi.html
> > http://rapidshare.com/files/80823201/MI-final-rc2_audio.flv.html
> >
> > --
> > Michael Chang
> >
> > Please note that not all formatting may be preserved in
> > Office/Word/Powerpoint documents sent to me. Please use OpenDocument
> > (not Open XML), HTML, and RTF where possible. See
> > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> > Thank you.
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Buy Wicket in Action: http://manning.com/dashorst
> Apache Wicket 1.3.0 is released
> Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3.0
>
Re: [GHOP] Issue 8 - Review Wicket Screen Cast: Markup Inheritence
Posted by Michael Chang <th...@gmail.com>.
Google Video version
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=1506438031407788182
Note: This version is lower quality than the AVI. The full version
(see the prior e-mail) is actually readable.
(AVI is 1024x768 whereas Google Video is about 320x240, IIRC. I could
be wrong, though.)
On Jan 18, 2008 8:52 PM, Michael Chang <th...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 18, 2008 4:58 PM, Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > BTW, I have to really look not to start typing in the video, it just looks
> > too much like a real eclipse window...
> > Martijn
> >
>
> Well, I was tinkering at the beginning to ensure I got the best
> quality I could get, because you can always convert to a lower-quality
> format but you can't go the other way. For what it's worth, it looks
> totally unreadable when I stream it from Google Videos, which I
> suppose is expected. (You can see the shape of the eclipse window, but
> the resolution is too low, so the text becomes unreadably blurry.)
> Considering how popular screencasts have gotten, I'm actually kind of
> surprised the Windows Media Screen codec that Microsoft made years ago
> isn't more popular -- if it was, I'd suspect this kind of quality
> wouldn't require such a large file.
>
> >
> > On 1/18/08, Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Michael,
> > >
> > > I've just been able to take a look. First let me extend our gratitude for
> > > you taking up the task. It is really some tough work to create a screen cast
> > > (I know, I've done a couple).
> > >
> > >
> > > If anyone else thinks your screencast is OK, then I'm fine with signing
> > > off.
>
> I suspect this will require me to make a streaming version
> available... Google Videos probably will be useful for that. Of
> course, I plan on still uploading to the other locations as well, so
> that you guys have access to the higher-resolution copy.
>
> > >
> > > If you can muster the energy to do just one other take, this is what I'd
> > > like to improve:
> > > - create pauzes when you explain at a high level what you are going to do
> > > - tell folks what you are doing when you do it (synchronize the left and
> > > right brain hemispheres ;)
>
> At this point, I think it's unlikely that I'll claim a third task by
> Monday (we'll see-- who knows?) so I may as well do this first one
> "right", so to speak. :)
>
> > > I found it hard to track the planning (you were explaining about the
> > > bookmarkable links and menu), and see that you are creating a page. It
> > > seemed out-of-sync and was quite distracting.
> > >
>
> I don't know if you've noticed, but I record the audio separate from
> the video, so shifting the audio and/or video around should be easy
> enough. (Notice how this version doesn't show the system clock in the
> corner... this is intentional. :) ) That's why you don't hear me
> clacking on my keyboard in the background. Just in case you were
> wondering.
>
>
> > >
> > > Again, thank you for your efforts and energy. The cast is good, I just
> > > want to make it perfect :)
> > >
> > >
> > > Martijn
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 1/18/08, Michael Chang < thenewme91@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > A new version of the screencast has been uploaded. Hopefully it
> > > > addresses Martjin's concerns. This file should play on most computers
> > > > -- it uses MPEG-4 (not h.264) video and MP3 audio in an AVI container.
> > > >
> > > > The video is 20.4 MB in size.
> > > >
> > > > http://rapidshare.com/files/84627136/MarkupInheritenceVideoV2.avi.html
> > > > (rapidshare)
> > > > http://webhome.idirect.com/~rgh/wicket/MarkupInheritenceVideoV2.avi
> > > > (alternate download location)
> > > >
> > > > Anyone who would like a text copy of what I was saying can follow
> > > > along at http://webhome.idirect.com/~rgh/wicket/MarkupInheritence.txt
> > > >
> > > > Comments -- even acknowledgments -- would be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Michael Chang
> > > >
> > > > Please note that not all formatting may be preserved in
> > > > Office/Word/Powerpoint documents sent to me. Please use OpenDocument
> > > > (not Open XML), HTML, and RTF where possible. See
> > > > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> > > > Thank you.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Buy Wicket in Action: http://manning.com/dashorst
> > > Apache Wicket 1.3.0 is released
> > > Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3.0
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > Apache Wicket 1.3.0 is released
> > Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3.0
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Michael Chang
>
> Please note that not all formatting may be preserved in
> Office/Word/Powerpoint documents sent to me. Please use OpenDocument
> (not Open XML), HTML, and RTF where possible. See
> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> Thank you.
>
--
Michael Chang
Please note that not all formatting may be preserved in
Office/Word/Powerpoint documents sent to me. Please use OpenDocument
(not Open XML), HTML, and RTF where possible. See
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
Thank you.
Re: [GHOP] Issue 8 - Review Wicket Screen Cast: Markup Inheritence
Posted by Gerolf Seitz <ge...@gmail.com>.
we now have 2 finished screen casts:
hello world (.flv, ~29mb)
markup inheritence (.avi, ~8mb)
i emailed dan, whether he could provide the hello world screen cast as a
smaller file,
but haven't got a response back.
so as for now, we'd have to use wicketstuff.org (which is fine by me, btw).
i very much would have liked to use ShadowBox [0] as a video player, but
since it's GPL licensed, i don't know if we want to / can use it.
thoughts?
Gerolf
[0] http://mjijackson.com/shadowbox/
On Jan 26, 2008 5:15 PM, Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> Great tutorial! Thanks for creating it!
>
>
> Gerolf: we should ensure we have the avi or other format and add it
> somewhere to our site. Could you make a proposal? I have asked infra@ and
> when we have < 10 screen casts, each < 20MB we are good to go with setting
> it up on our web site, otherwise we should consider moving the casts to
> the
> mirroring system.
>
> Another option would be to host them on the wicketstuff.org server. I'll
> leave it up to you on how to proceed.
>
> Martijn
>
> On 1/26/08, Michael Chang <th...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I humbly ask that you guys give this version one last look-over. I
> > would like to think that I've taken all comments into consideration,
> > but please tell me if there are any last things which I might have
> > forgotten on the way here. I've re-recorded the audio (again),
> > because I realized while editing it that my computer was dropping bits
> > of audio last time and so the sound was kind of choppy. I also figured
> > out that my hardware natively runs at 48000 Hz, so it made more sense
> > to record and edit at that sample rate.
> >
> > As per the GHOP rules, these videos are released under the Creative
> > Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported License
> > (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/).
> >
> > I've also encoded it into different versions (all XVID/MP3 based,
> > mind) in hopes that it is easier to review. If anybody actually wants
> > a copy using Theora/Vorbis (using either the Matroska or Ogg
> > containers), please let me know in the next few days and I can prepare
> > one. Otherwise, one could simply convert the version using "original"
> > video later.
> >
> > Re-encoded version (AVI/XVID/MP3; Video @ 1024x768, Quantizer 4;
> > Audio @ 96kbps ABR; 7.5MB)
> > This version appears to me as identical as the "original", but it has
> > a smaller filesize. It should suffice for most viewing purposes.
> >
> >
> http://rapidshare.com/files/86679860/MarkupInheritence-4-edited-v1-recode.avi.html
> >
> >
> http://webhome.idirect.com/~rgh/wicket/MarkupInheritence-4-edited-v1-recode.avi<http://webhome.idirect.com/%7Ergh/wicket/MarkupInheritence-4-edited-v1-recode.avi>
> >
> > Low Quality encoded version (AVI/XVID/MP3; Video @ 512x384, Quantizer
> > 4; Audio @ 32kbps CBR; 2.6MB)
> > This version uses a reduced resolution and audio bitrate so that it is
> > smaller. While not useful for reviewing video quality, it should
> > suffice for getting the gist of the flow of the video. I found I could
> > still read it once scaled to full screen in my video player, although
> > YMMV.
> >
> >
> http://rapidshare.com/files/86678481/MarkupInheritence-4-edited-v1-lq.avi.html
> >
> >
> http://webhome.idirect.com/~rgh/wicket/MarkupInheritence-4-edited-v1-lq.avi<http://webhome.idirect.com/%7Ergh/wicket/MarkupInheritence-4-edited-v1-lq.avi>
> > (alternate)
> >
> > Version using "original" video (AVI/XVID/MP3; Video @ 1024x768; Audio
> > @ 128kbps CBR; ~20MB)
> > This version is mainly intended for anyone who wishes to convert the
> > video into other formats or to create derivative works, although it is
> > certainly not limited to such uses.
> >
> >
> http://rapidshare.com/files/86677713/MarkupInheritence-4-edited-v1.avi.html
> > http://webhome.idirect.com/~rgh/wicket/MarkupInheritence-4-edited-v1.avi<http://webhome.idirect.com/%7Ergh/wicket/MarkupInheritence-4-edited-v1.avi>
> > (alternate)
> >
> > I have also uploaded the video to Google Videos so that one may view
> > it without downloading the video. Please note that the streaming
> > lowers the quality of the video (even below that of the LQ encoded
> > version, above). It is provided primarily for two reasons: A) for
> > convenience, and B) to make sure I satisfy GHOP rules by using Google
> > infrastructure.
> > http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=3474333579336248840&hl=en-CA
> >
> > Again, all comments are appreciated, and of course I would love to
> > know if there is anything that remains before we can mark this issue
> > as completed!
> >
> > This message will also be posted in the google issue tracker.
> >
> > --
> > Michael Chang
> >
> > Please note that not all formatting may be preserved in
> > Office/Word/Powerpoint documents sent to me. Please use OpenDocument
> > (not Open XML), HTML, and RTF where possible. See
> > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> > Thank you.
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Buy Wicket in Action: http://manning.com/dashorst
> Apache Wicket 1.3.0 is released
> Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3.0
>
Re: [GHOP] Issue 8 - Review Wicket Screen Cast: Markup Inheritence
Posted by Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>.
Hi Michael,
Great tutorial! Thanks for creating it!
Gerolf: we should ensure we have the avi or other format and add it
somewhere to our site. Could you make a proposal? I have asked infra@ and
when we have < 10 screen casts, each < 20MB we are good to go with setting
it up on our web site, otherwise we should consider moving the casts to the
mirroring system.
Another option would be to host them on the wicketstuff.org server. I'll
leave it up to you on how to proceed.
Martijn
On 1/26/08, Michael Chang <th...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I humbly ask that you guys give this version one last look-over. I
> would like to think that I've taken all comments into consideration,
> but please tell me if there are any last things which I might have
> forgotten on the way here. I've re-recorded the audio (again),
> because I realized while editing it that my computer was dropping bits
> of audio last time and so the sound was kind of choppy. I also figured
> out that my hardware natively runs at 48000 Hz, so it made more sense
> to record and edit at that sample rate.
>
> As per the GHOP rules, these videos are released under the Creative
> Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported License
> (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/).
>
> I've also encoded it into different versions (all XVID/MP3 based,
> mind) in hopes that it is easier to review. If anybody actually wants
> a copy using Theora/Vorbis (using either the Matroska or Ogg
> containers), please let me know in the next few days and I can prepare
> one. Otherwise, one could simply convert the version using "original"
> video later.
>
> Re-encoded version (AVI/XVID/MP3; Video @ 1024x768, Quantizer 4;
> Audio @ 96kbps ABR; 7.5MB)
> This version appears to me as identical as the "original", but it has
> a smaller filesize. It should suffice for most viewing purposes.
>
> http://rapidshare.com/files/86679860/MarkupInheritence-4-edited-v1-recode.avi.html
>
> http://webhome.idirect.com/~rgh/wicket/MarkupInheritence-4-edited-v1-recode.avi
>
> Low Quality encoded version (AVI/XVID/MP3; Video @ 512x384, Quantizer
> 4; Audio @ 32kbps CBR; 2.6MB)
> This version uses a reduced resolution and audio bitrate so that it is
> smaller. While not useful for reviewing video quality, it should
> suffice for getting the gist of the flow of the video. I found I could
> still read it once scaled to full screen in my video player, although
> YMMV.
>
> http://rapidshare.com/files/86678481/MarkupInheritence-4-edited-v1-lq.avi.html
>
> http://webhome.idirect.com/~rgh/wicket/MarkupInheritence-4-edited-v1-lq.avi
> (alternate)
>
> Version using "original" video (AVI/XVID/MP3; Video @ 1024x768; Audio
> @ 128kbps CBR; ~20MB)
> This version is mainly intended for anyone who wishes to convert the
> video into other formats or to create derivative works, although it is
> certainly not limited to such uses.
>
> http://rapidshare.com/files/86677713/MarkupInheritence-4-edited-v1.avi.html
> http://webhome.idirect.com/~rgh/wicket/MarkupInheritence-4-edited-v1.avi
> (alternate)
>
> I have also uploaded the video to Google Videos so that one may view
> it without downloading the video. Please note that the streaming
> lowers the quality of the video (even below that of the LQ encoded
> version, above). It is provided primarily for two reasons: A) for
> convenience, and B) to make sure I satisfy GHOP rules by using Google
> infrastructure.
> http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=3474333579336248840&hl=en-CA
>
> Again, all comments are appreciated, and of course I would love to
> know if there is anything that remains before we can mark this issue
> as completed!
>
> This message will also be posted in the google issue tracker.
>
> --
> Michael Chang
>
> Please note that not all formatting may be preserved in
> Office/Word/Powerpoint documents sent to me. Please use OpenDocument
> (not Open XML), HTML, and RTF where possible. See
> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> Thank you.
>
--
Buy Wicket in Action: http://manning.com/dashorst
Apache Wicket 1.3.0 is released
Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3.0
Re: [GHOP] Issue 8 - Review Wicket Screen Cast: Markup Inheritence
Posted by Michael Chang <th...@gmail.com>.
Hello all,
I humbly ask that you guys give this version one last look-over. I
would like to think that I've taken all comments into consideration,
but please tell me if there are any last things which I might have
forgotten on the way here. I've re-recorded the audio (again),
because I realized while editing it that my computer was dropping bits
of audio last time and so the sound was kind of choppy. I also figured
out that my hardware natively runs at 48000 Hz, so it made more sense
to record and edit at that sample rate.
As per the GHOP rules, these videos are released under the Creative
Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported License
(http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/).
I've also encoded it into different versions (all XVID/MP3 based,
mind) in hopes that it is easier to review. If anybody actually wants
a copy using Theora/Vorbis (using either the Matroska or Ogg
containers), please let me know in the next few days and I can prepare
one. Otherwise, one could simply convert the version using "original"
video later.
Re-encoded version (AVI/XVID/MP3; Video @ 1024x768, Quantizer 4;
Audio @ 96kbps ABR; 7.5MB)
This version appears to me as identical as the "original", but it has
a smaller filesize. It should suffice for most viewing purposes.
http://rapidshare.com/files/86679860/MarkupInheritence-4-edited-v1-recode.avi.html
http://webhome.idirect.com/~rgh/wicket/MarkupInheritence-4-edited-v1-recode.avi
Low Quality encoded version (AVI/XVID/MP3; Video @ 512x384, Quantizer
4; Audio @ 32kbps CBR; 2.6MB)
This version uses a reduced resolution and audio bitrate so that it is
smaller. While not useful for reviewing video quality, it should
suffice for getting the gist of the flow of the video. I found I could
still read it once scaled to full screen in my video player, although
YMMV.
http://rapidshare.com/files/86678481/MarkupInheritence-4-edited-v1-lq.avi.html
http://webhome.idirect.com/~rgh/wicket/MarkupInheritence-4-edited-v1-lq.avi
(alternate)
Version using "original" video (AVI/XVID/MP3; Video @ 1024x768; Audio
@ 128kbps CBR; ~20MB)
This version is mainly intended for anyone who wishes to convert the
video into other formats or to create derivative works, although it is
certainly not limited to such uses.
http://rapidshare.com/files/86677713/MarkupInheritence-4-edited-v1.avi.html
http://webhome.idirect.com/~rgh/wicket/MarkupInheritence-4-edited-v1.avi
(alternate)
I have also uploaded the video to Google Videos so that one may view
it without downloading the video. Please note that the streaming
lowers the quality of the video (even below that of the LQ encoded
version, above). It is provided primarily for two reasons: A) for
convenience, and B) to make sure I satisfy GHOP rules by using Google
infrastructure.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=3474333579336248840&hl=en-CA
Again, all comments are appreciated, and of course I would love to
know if there is anything that remains before we can mark this issue
as completed!
This message will also be posted in the google issue tracker.
--
Michael Chang
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Thank you.
Re: [GHOP] Issue 8 - Review Wicket Screen Cast: Markup Inheritence
Posted by Michael Chang <th...@gmail.com>.
On Jan 19, 2008 5:02 AM, Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> A streaming version is not necessary IMO. We are looking for options to put
I don't expect you to use the google video version in any final thing
-- I was merely uploading it to their site so that it is more
convenient to review it.
> the vids on our main site. It just takes time to do so :)
Naturally.
> If you still want to put it on a shared service, you might want to check
> revver.com, they have IMO higher quality video streaming but it still is
> compressed, and I'm not sure how your screencast would be converted...
>
> Martijn
>
>
> On 1/19/08, Michael Chang <th...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Jan 18, 2008 4:58 PM, Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > BTW, I have to really look not to start typing in the video, it just
> > looks
> > > too much like a real eclipse window...
> > > Martijn
> > >
> >
> > Well, I was tinkering at the beginning to ensure I got the best
> > quality I could get, because you can always convert to a lower-quality
> > format but you can't go the other way. For what it's worth, it looks
> > totally unreadable when I stream it from Google Videos, which I
> > suppose is expected. (You can see the shape of the eclipse window, but
> > the resolution is too low, so the text becomes unreadably blurry.)
> > Considering how popular screencasts have gotten, I'm actually kind of
> > surprised the Windows Media Screen codec that Microsoft made years ago
> > isn't more popular -- if it was, I'd suspect this kind of quality
> > wouldn't require such a large file.
> >
> > >
> > > On 1/18/08, Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Michael,
> > > >
> > > > I've just been able to take a look. First let me extend our gratitude
> > for
> > > > you taking up the task. It is really some tough work to create a
> > screen cast
> > > > (I know, I've done a couple).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If anyone else thinks your screencast is OK, then I'm fine with
> > signing
> > > > off.
> >
> > I suspect this will require me to make a streaming version
> > available... Google Videos probably will be useful for that. Of
> > course, I plan on still uploading to the other locations as well, so
> > that you guys have access to the higher-resolution copy.
> >
> > > >
> > > > If you can muster the energy to do just one other take, this is what
> > I'd
> > > > like to improve:
> > > > - create pauzes when you explain at a high level what you are going
> > to do
> > > > - tell folks what you are doing when you do it (synchronize the left
> > and
> > > > right brain hemispheres ;)
> >
> > At this point, I think it's unlikely that I'll claim a third task by
> > Monday (we'll see-- who knows?) so I may as well do this first one
> > "right", so to speak. :)
> >
> > > > I found it hard to track the planning (you were explaining about the
> > > > bookmarkable links and menu), and see that you are creating a page. It
> > > > seemed out-of-sync and was quite distracting.
> > > >
> >
> > I don't know if you've noticed, but I record the audio separate from
> > the video, so shifting the audio and/or video around should be easy
> > enough. (Notice how this version doesn't show the system clock in the
> > corner... this is intentional. :) ) That's why you don't hear me
> > clacking on my keyboard in the background. Just in case you were
> > wondering.
> >
> > > >
> > > > Again, thank you for your efforts and energy. The cast is good, I just
> > > > want to make it perfect :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Martijn
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 1/18/08, Michael Chang < thenewme91@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > A new version of the screencast has been uploaded. Hopefully it
> > > > > addresses Martjin's concerns. This file should play on most
> > computers
> > > > > -- it uses MPEG-4 (not h.264) video and MP3 audio in an AVI
> > container.
> > > > >
> > > > > The video is 20.4 MB in size.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > http://rapidshare.com/files/84627136/MarkupInheritenceVideoV2.avi.html
> > > > > (rapidshare)
> > > > > http://webhome.idirect.com/~rgh/wicket/MarkupInheritenceVideoV2.avi
> > > > > (alternate download location)
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone who would like a text copy of what I was saying can follow
> > > > > along at
> > http://webhome.idirect.com/~rgh/wicket/MarkupInheritence.txt
> > > > >
> > > > > Comments -- even acknowledgments -- would be appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Michael Chang
> > > > >
> > > > > Please note that not all formatting may be preserved in
> > > > > Office/Word/Powerpoint documents sent to me. Please use OpenDocument
> > > > > (not Open XML), HTML, and RTF where possible. See
> > > > > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> > > > > Thank you.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Buy Wicket in Action: http://manning.com/dashorst
> > > > Apache Wicket 1.3.0 is released
> > > > Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3.0
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Buy Wicket in Action: http://manning.com/dashorst
> > > Apache Wicket 1.3.0 is released
> > > Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3.0
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Michael Chang
> >
> > Please note that not all formatting may be preserved in
> > Office/Word/Powerpoint documents sent to me. Please use OpenDocument
> > (not Open XML), HTML, and RTF where possible. See
> > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> > Thank you.
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Buy Wicket in Action: http://manning.com/dashorst
> Apache Wicket 1.3.0 is released
> Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3.0
>
--
Michael Chang
Please note that not all formatting may be preserved in
Office/Word/Powerpoint documents sent to me. Please use OpenDocument
(not Open XML), HTML, and RTF where possible. See
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
Thank you.
Re: [GHOP] Issue 8 - Review Wicket Screen Cast: Markup Inheritence
Posted by Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>.
A streaming version is not necessary IMO. We are looking for options to put
the vids on our main site. It just takes time to do so :)
If you still want to put it on a shared service, you might want to check
revver.com, they have IMO higher quality video streaming but it still is
compressed, and I'm not sure how your screencast would be converted...
Martijn
On 1/19/08, Michael Chang <th...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Jan 18, 2008 4:58 PM, Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > BTW, I have to really look not to start typing in the video, it just
> looks
> > too much like a real eclipse window...
> > Martijn
> >
>
> Well, I was tinkering at the beginning to ensure I got the best
> quality I could get, because you can always convert to a lower-quality
> format but you can't go the other way. For what it's worth, it looks
> totally unreadable when I stream it from Google Videos, which I
> suppose is expected. (You can see the shape of the eclipse window, but
> the resolution is too low, so the text becomes unreadably blurry.)
> Considering how popular screencasts have gotten, I'm actually kind of
> surprised the Windows Media Screen codec that Microsoft made years ago
> isn't more popular -- if it was, I'd suspect this kind of quality
> wouldn't require such a large file.
>
> >
> > On 1/18/08, Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Michael,
> > >
> > > I've just been able to take a look. First let me extend our gratitude
> for
> > > you taking up the task. It is really some tough work to create a
> screen cast
> > > (I know, I've done a couple).
> > >
> > >
> > > If anyone else thinks your screencast is OK, then I'm fine with
> signing
> > > off.
>
> I suspect this will require me to make a streaming version
> available... Google Videos probably will be useful for that. Of
> course, I plan on still uploading to the other locations as well, so
> that you guys have access to the higher-resolution copy.
>
> > >
> > > If you can muster the energy to do just one other take, this is what
> I'd
> > > like to improve:
> > > - create pauzes when you explain at a high level what you are going
> to do
> > > - tell folks what you are doing when you do it (synchronize the left
> and
> > > right brain hemispheres ;)
>
> At this point, I think it's unlikely that I'll claim a third task by
> Monday (we'll see-- who knows?) so I may as well do this first one
> "right", so to speak. :)
>
> > > I found it hard to track the planning (you were explaining about the
> > > bookmarkable links and menu), and see that you are creating a page. It
> > > seemed out-of-sync and was quite distracting.
> > >
>
> I don't know if you've noticed, but I record the audio separate from
> the video, so shifting the audio and/or video around should be easy
> enough. (Notice how this version doesn't show the system clock in the
> corner... this is intentional. :) ) That's why you don't hear me
> clacking on my keyboard in the background. Just in case you were
> wondering.
>
> > >
> > > Again, thank you for your efforts and energy. The cast is good, I just
> > > want to make it perfect :)
> > >
> > >
> > > Martijn
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 1/18/08, Michael Chang < thenewme91@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > A new version of the screencast has been uploaded. Hopefully it
> > > > addresses Martjin's concerns. This file should play on most
> computers
> > > > -- it uses MPEG-4 (not h.264) video and MP3 audio in an AVI
> container.
> > > >
> > > > The video is 20.4 MB in size.
> > > >
> > > >
> http://rapidshare.com/files/84627136/MarkupInheritenceVideoV2.avi.html
> > > > (rapidshare)
> > > > http://webhome.idirect.com/~rgh/wicket/MarkupInheritenceVideoV2.avi
> > > > (alternate download location)
> > > >
> > > > Anyone who would like a text copy of what I was saying can follow
> > > > along at
> http://webhome.idirect.com/~rgh/wicket/MarkupInheritence.txt
> > > >
> > > > Comments -- even acknowledgments -- would be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Michael Chang
> > > >
> > > > Please note that not all formatting may be preserved in
> > > > Office/Word/Powerpoint documents sent to me. Please use OpenDocument
> > > > (not Open XML), HTML, and RTF where possible. See
> > > > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> > > > Thank you.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Buy Wicket in Action: http://manning.com/dashorst
> > > Apache Wicket 1.3.0 is released
> > > Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3.0
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Buy Wicket in Action: http://manning.com/dashorst
> > Apache Wicket 1.3.0 is released
> > Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3.0
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Michael Chang
>
> Please note that not all formatting may be preserved in
> Office/Word/Powerpoint documents sent to me. Please use OpenDocument
> (not Open XML), HTML, and RTF where possible. See
> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> Thank you.
>
--
Buy Wicket in Action: http://manning.com/dashorst
Apache Wicket 1.3.0 is released
Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3.0
Re: [GHOP] Issue 8 - Review Wicket Screen Cast: Markup Inheritence
Posted by Michael Chang <th...@gmail.com>.
On Jan 18, 2008 4:58 PM, Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> BTW, I have to really look not to start typing in the video, it just looks
> too much like a real eclipse window...
> Martijn
>
Well, I was tinkering at the beginning to ensure I got the best
quality I could get, because you can always convert to a lower-quality
format but you can't go the other way. For what it's worth, it looks
totally unreadable when I stream it from Google Videos, which I
suppose is expected. (You can see the shape of the eclipse window, but
the resolution is too low, so the text becomes unreadably blurry.)
Considering how popular screencasts have gotten, I'm actually kind of
surprised the Windows Media Screen codec that Microsoft made years ago
isn't more popular -- if it was, I'd suspect this kind of quality
wouldn't require such a large file.
>
> On 1/18/08, Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Michael,
> >
> > I've just been able to take a look. First let me extend our gratitude for
> > you taking up the task. It is really some tough work to create a screen cast
> > (I know, I've done a couple).
> >
> >
> > If anyone else thinks your screencast is OK, then I'm fine with signing
> > off.
I suspect this will require me to make a streaming version
available... Google Videos probably will be useful for that. Of
course, I plan on still uploading to the other locations as well, so
that you guys have access to the higher-resolution copy.
> >
> > If you can muster the energy to do just one other take, this is what I'd
> > like to improve:
> > - create pauzes when you explain at a high level what you are going to do
> > - tell folks what you are doing when you do it (synchronize the left and
> > right brain hemispheres ;)
At this point, I think it's unlikely that I'll claim a third task by
Monday (we'll see-- who knows?) so I may as well do this first one
"right", so to speak. :)
> > I found it hard to track the planning (you were explaining about the
> > bookmarkable links and menu), and see that you are creating a page. It
> > seemed out-of-sync and was quite distracting.
> >
I don't know if you've noticed, but I record the audio separate from
the video, so shifting the audio and/or video around should be easy
enough. (Notice how this version doesn't show the system clock in the
corner... this is intentional. :) ) That's why you don't hear me
clacking on my keyboard in the background. Just in case you were
wondering.
> >
> > Again, thank you for your efforts and energy. The cast is good, I just
> > want to make it perfect :)
> >
> >
> > Martijn
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/18/08, Michael Chang < thenewme91@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > A new version of the screencast has been uploaded. Hopefully it
> > > addresses Martjin's concerns. This file should play on most computers
> > > -- it uses MPEG-4 (not h.264) video and MP3 audio in an AVI container.
> > >
> > > The video is 20.4 MB in size.
> > >
> > > http://rapidshare.com/files/84627136/MarkupInheritenceVideoV2.avi.html
> > > (rapidshare)
> > > http://webhome.idirect.com/~rgh/wicket/MarkupInheritenceVideoV2.avi
> > > (alternate download location)
> > >
> > > Anyone who would like a text copy of what I was saying can follow
> > > along at http://webhome.idirect.com/~rgh/wicket/MarkupInheritence.txt
> > >
> > > Comments -- even acknowledgments -- would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Michael Chang
> > >
> > > Please note that not all formatting may be preserved in
> > > Office/Word/Powerpoint documents sent to me. Please use OpenDocument
> > > (not Open XML), HTML, and RTF where possible. See
> > > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Buy Wicket in Action: http://manning.com/dashorst
> > Apache Wicket 1.3.0 is released
> > Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3.0
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Buy Wicket in Action: http://manning.com/dashorst
> Apache Wicket 1.3.0 is released
> Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3.0
>
--
Michael Chang
Please note that not all formatting may be preserved in
Office/Word/Powerpoint documents sent to me. Please use OpenDocument
(not Open XML), HTML, and RTF where possible. See
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
Thank you.
Re: [GHOP] Issue 8 - Review Wicket Screen Cast: Markup Inheritence
Posted by Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>.
BTW, I have to really look not to start typing in the video, it just looks
too much like a real eclipse window...
Martijn
On 1/18/08, Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> I've just been able to take a look. First let me extend our gratitude for
> you taking up the task. It is really some tough work to create a screen cast
> (I know, I've done a couple).
>
>
> If anyone else thinks your screencast is OK, then I'm fine with signing
> off.
>
>
> If you can muster the energy to do just one other take, this is what I'd
> like to improve:
> - create pauzes when you explain at a high level what you are going to do
> - tell folks what you are doing when you do it (synchronize the left and
> right brain hemispheres ;)
>
> I found it hard to track the planning (you were explaining about the
> bookmarkable links and menu), and see that you are creating a page. It
> seemed out-of-sync and was quite distracting.
>
>
> Again, thank you for your efforts and energy. The cast is good, I just
> want to make it perfect :)
>
>
> Martijn
>
>
>
>
> On 1/18/08, Michael Chang < thenewme91@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > A new version of the screencast has been uploaded. Hopefully it
> > addresses Martjin's concerns. This file should play on most computers
> > -- it uses MPEG-4 (not h.264) video and MP3 audio in an AVI container.
> >
> > The video is 20.4 MB in size.
> >
> > http://rapidshare.com/files/84627136/MarkupInheritenceVideoV2.avi.html
> > (rapidshare)
> > http://webhome.idirect.com/~rgh/wicket/MarkupInheritenceVideoV2.avi
> > (alternate download location)
> >
> > Anyone who would like a text copy of what I was saying can follow
> > along at http://webhome.idirect.com/~rgh/wicket/MarkupInheritence.txt
> >
> > Comments -- even acknowledgments -- would be appreciated.
> >
> > --
> > Michael Chang
> >
> > Please note that not all formatting may be preserved in
> > Office/Word/Powerpoint documents sent to me. Please use OpenDocument
> > (not Open XML), HTML, and RTF where possible. See
> > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> > Thank you.
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Buy Wicket in Action: http://manning.com/dashorst
> Apache Wicket 1.3.0 is released
> Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3.0
>
--
Buy Wicket in Action: http://manning.com/dashorst
Apache Wicket 1.3.0 is released
Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3.0
Re: [GHOP] Issue 8 - Review Wicket Screen Cast: Markup Inheritence
Posted by Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>.
Hi Michael,
I've just been able to take a look. First let me extend our gratitude for
you taking up the task. It is really some tough work to create a screen cast
(I know, I've done a couple).
If anyone else thinks your screencast is OK, then I'm fine with signing off.
If you can muster the energy to do just one other take, this is what I'd
like to improve:
- create pauzes when you explain at a high level what you are going to do
- tell folks what you are doing when you do it (synchronize the left and
right brain hemispheres ;)
I found it hard to track the planning (you were explaining about the
bookmarkable links and menu), and see that you are creating a page. It
seemed out-of-sync and was quite distracting.
Again, thank you for your efforts and energy. The cast is good, I just want
to make it perfect :)
Martijn
On 1/18/08, Michael Chang <th...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> A new version of the screencast has been uploaded. Hopefully it
> addresses Martjin's concerns. This file should play on most computers
> -- it uses MPEG-4 (not h.264) video and MP3 audio in an AVI container.
>
> The video is 20.4 MB in size.
>
> http://rapidshare.com/files/84627136/MarkupInheritenceVideoV2.avi.html
> (rapidshare)
> http://webhome.idirect.com/~rgh/wicket/MarkupInheritenceVideoV2.avi
> (alternate download location)
>
> Anyone who would like a text copy of what I was saying can follow
> along at http://webhome.idirect.com/~rgh/wicket/MarkupInheritence.txt
>
> Comments -- even acknowledgments -- would be appreciated.
>
> --
> Michael Chang
>
> Please note that not all formatting may be preserved in
> Office/Word/Powerpoint documents sent to me. Please use OpenDocument
> (not Open XML), HTML, and RTF where possible. See
> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> Thank you.
>
--
Buy Wicket in Action: http://manning.com/dashorst
Apache Wicket 1.3.0 is released
Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3.0
Re: [GHOP] Issue 8 - Review Wicket Screen Cast: Markup Inheritence
Posted by Michael Chang <th...@gmail.com>.
A new version of the screencast has been uploaded. Hopefully it
addresses Martjin's concerns. This file should play on most computers
-- it uses MPEG-4 (not h.264) video and MP3 audio in an AVI container.
The video is 20.4 MB in size.
http://rapidshare.com/files/84627136/MarkupInheritenceVideoV2.avi.html
(rapidshare)
http://webhome.idirect.com/~rgh/wicket/MarkupInheritenceVideoV2.avi
(alternate download location)
Anyone who would like a text copy of what I was saying can follow
along at http://webhome.idirect.com/~rgh/wicket/MarkupInheritence.txt
Comments -- even acknowledgments -- would be appreciated.
--
Michael Chang
Please note that not all formatting may be preserved in
Office/Word/Powerpoint documents sent to me. Please use OpenDocument
(not Open XML), HTML, and RTF where possible. See
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
Thank you.
Re: [GHOP] Issue 8 - Review Wicket Screen Cast: Markup Inheritence
Posted by Michael Chang <th...@gmail.com>.
Hi all,
Here's a bit of a status update:
http://webhome.idirect.com/~rgh/wicket/MarkupInheritence-3-edited.avi
Work in progress -- video only, no sound. I'll record the audio
voiceover later. Container format is AVI, codec is XVID. Resolution:
1024x768. Should play in most players.
On Jan 14, 2008 8:53 AM, Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> No problem, open source is a volunteer effort so these things happen.
> I hope you feel better.
Thanks.
On Jan 6, 2008 11:17 AM, Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
> You could just use the standard application provided by the quickstart
> template though, and modify what you need. This is how people starting
> to play with your example will work. This will remove the need to
> modify the web.xml file.
Done in this version.
> Also you can apply 'code complete' more often: for example where you
> type in the constructor's name... Just type in the first 3 letters or
> so and press ctrl-space. Eclipse will generate the constructor name
> for you.
I tried to do this where I could -- if I missed any major potential
uses of code complete, feel free to let me know. :)
<snip>
> When you click in the browser, tell people what they see: here is the
> content of page1, with the menu of the base page, and when I click the
> page2 link you see that we updated the main content and the menu is
> still present. Possibly select the specific texts as you explain.
Video updated with selecting of text -- audio explainations will be
added when I record the audio.
Comments would be appreciated.
--
Michael Chang
Please note that not all formatting may be preserved in
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Re: [GHOP] Issue 8 - Review Wicket Screen Cast: Markup Inheritence
Posted by Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>.
No problem, open source is a volunteer effort so these things happen.
I hope you feel better.
Martijn
On 1/14/08, Michael Chang <th...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I apologize for not responding earlier. I fell ill on Monday, and the
> backlog of work pushed my schedule back a little bit.
>
> I have the video recorded for a revised version -- I simply now need
> to edit the video and adjust the "dub", recording new content where
> applicable.
>
> If there are any problems or concerns, please feel free to e-mail me.
>
> Michael
>
> On Jan 6, 2008 2:33 PM, Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Though Rapidshare is a pain with the waiting, the service they provide
> > is good. So keep using it if you wish, as long as you don't provide
> > new versions more than once per day :)
> >
> > Martijn
> >
> >
> > On Jan 6, 2008 8:28 PM, Michael Chang <th...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On Jan 6, 2008 11:17 AM, Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > OK I just watched the video. It is great, but could use more explanation
> > > > IMO.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank you for your comments -- I will try to find time this week to create a
> > > new version of the video. (I have some unfinished homework which I need to
> > > complete first, and school starts again for me tomorrow.)
> > >
> > >
> > > > > I tried the mkv video previously but was unable to view it (I only
> > > > > heard your voice).
> > > > >
> > > > > Downloading the AVI now (I have only one download per day ....)
> > > >
> > >
> > > Downloading the following should allow you to play the MKV using Quicktime,
> > > should you wish to do so. (Both need to be installed - one opens the MKV
> > > file, and one decodes the video itself.) I don't own a Mac, so I'm not able
> > > to test it personally, unfortunately. I apologize for the inconvenience
> > > caused.
> > >
> > > Perian - http://perian.org/ (Allows QuickTime on Mac to open among others,
> > > MKV files)
> > > XiphQT - http://xiph.org/quicktime/download.html (Allows Quicktime on Mac to
> > > decode the video)
> > >
> > > I will try to provide an XVID/MP3 AVI right away next time.
> > >
> > > If you have any suggestions about alternative places to upload the files,
> > > please let me know. I am well aware that some people have ... difficulties
> > > downloading from rapidshare, but I wasn't sure where else I could put the
> > > video.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Michael Chang
> > >
> > > Please note that not all formatting may be preserved in
> > > Office/Word/Powerpoint documents sent to me. Please use OpenDocument (not
> > > Open XML), HTML, and RTF where possible. See
> > > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
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> > Apache Wicket 1.3.0 is released
> > Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3.0
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Michael Chang
>
> Please note that not all formatting may be preserved in
> Office/Word/Powerpoint documents sent to me. Please use OpenDocument
> (not Open XML), HTML, and RTF where possible. See
> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> Thank you.
>
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Re: [GHOP] Issue 8 - Review Wicket Screen Cast: Markup Inheritence
Posted by Michael Chang <th...@gmail.com>.
I apologize for not responding earlier. I fell ill on Monday, and the
backlog of work pushed my schedule back a little bit.
I have the video recorded for a revised version -- I simply now need
to edit the video and adjust the "dub", recording new content where
applicable.
If there are any problems or concerns, please feel free to e-mail me.
Michael
On Jan 6, 2008 2:33 PM, Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Though Rapidshare is a pain with the waiting, the service they provide
> is good. So keep using it if you wish, as long as you don't provide
> new versions more than once per day :)
>
> Martijn
>
>
> On Jan 6, 2008 8:28 PM, Michael Chang <th...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Jan 6, 2008 11:17 AM, Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > OK I just watched the video. It is great, but could use more explanation
> > > IMO.
> >
> >
> > Thank you for your comments -- I will try to find time this week to create a
> > new version of the video. (I have some unfinished homework which I need to
> > complete first, and school starts again for me tomorrow.)
> >
> >
> > > > I tried the mkv video previously but was unable to view it (I only
> > > > heard your voice).
> > > >
> > > > Downloading the AVI now (I have only one download per day ....)
> > >
> >
> > Downloading the following should allow you to play the MKV using Quicktime,
> > should you wish to do so. (Both need to be installed - one opens the MKV
> > file, and one decodes the video itself.) I don't own a Mac, so I'm not able
> > to test it personally, unfortunately. I apologize for the inconvenience
> > caused.
> >
> > Perian - http://perian.org/ (Allows QuickTime on Mac to open among others,
> > MKV files)
> > XiphQT - http://xiph.org/quicktime/download.html (Allows Quicktime on Mac to
> > decode the video)
> >
> > I will try to provide an XVID/MP3 AVI right away next time.
> >
> > If you have any suggestions about alternative places to upload the files,
> > please let me know. I am well aware that some people have ... difficulties
> > downloading from rapidshare, but I wasn't sure where else I could put the
> > video.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Michael Chang
> >
> > Please note that not all formatting may be preserved in
> > Office/Word/Powerpoint documents sent to me. Please use OpenDocument (not
> > Open XML), HTML, and RTF where possible. See
> > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> > Thank you.
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Buy Wicket in Action: http://manning.com/dashorst
> Apache Wicket 1.3.0 is released
> Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3.0
>
--
Michael Chang
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Office/Word/Powerpoint documents sent to me. Please use OpenDocument
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Re: [GHOP] Issue 8 - Review Wicket Screen Cast: Markup Inheritence
Posted by Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>.
Though Rapidshare is a pain with the waiting, the service they provide
is good. So keep using it if you wish, as long as you don't provide
new versions more than once per day :)
Martijn
On Jan 6, 2008 8:28 PM, Michael Chang <th...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Jan 6, 2008 11:17 AM, Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > OK I just watched the video. It is great, but could use more explanation
> > IMO.
>
>
> Thank you for your comments -- I will try to find time this week to create a
> new version of the video. (I have some unfinished homework which I need to
> complete first, and school starts again for me tomorrow.)
>
>
> > > I tried the mkv video previously but was unable to view it (I only
> > > heard your voice).
> > >
> > > Downloading the AVI now (I have only one download per day ....)
> >
>
> Downloading the following should allow you to play the MKV using Quicktime,
> should you wish to do so. (Both need to be installed - one opens the MKV
> file, and one decodes the video itself.) I don't own a Mac, so I'm not able
> to test it personally, unfortunately. I apologize for the inconvenience
> caused.
>
> Perian - http://perian.org/ (Allows QuickTime on Mac to open among others,
> MKV files)
> XiphQT - http://xiph.org/quicktime/download.html (Allows Quicktime on Mac to
> decode the video)
>
> I will try to provide an XVID/MP3 AVI right away next time.
>
> If you have any suggestions about alternative places to upload the files,
> please let me know. I am well aware that some people have ... difficulties
> downloading from rapidshare, but I wasn't sure where else I could put the
> video.
>
> --
>
> Michael Chang
>
> Please note that not all formatting may be preserved in
> Office/Word/Powerpoint documents sent to me. Please use OpenDocument (not
> Open XML), HTML, and RTF where possible. See
> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> Thank you.
>
--
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Apache Wicket 1.3.0 is released
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Re: [GHOP] Issue 8 - Review Wicket Screen Cast: Markup Inheritence
Posted by Michael Chang <th...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
On Jan 6, 2008 11:17 AM, Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> OK I just watched the video. It is great, but could use more explanation
> IMO.
Thank you for your comments -- I will try to find time this week to create a
new version of the video. (I have some unfinished homework which I need to
complete first, and school starts again for me tomorrow.)
> > I tried the mkv video previously but was unable to view it (I only
> > heard your voice).
> >
> > Downloading the AVI now (I have only one download per day ....)
>
Downloading the following should allow you to play the MKV using Quicktime,
should you wish to do so. (Both need to be installed - one opens the MKV
file, and one decodes the video itself.) I don't own a Mac, so I'm not able
to test it personally, unfortunately. I apologize for the inconvenience
caused.
Perian - http://perian.org/ (Allows QuickTime on Mac to open among others,
MKV files)
XiphQT - http://xiph.org/quicktime/download.html (Allows Quicktime on Mac to
decode the video)
I will try to provide an XVID/MP3 AVI right away next time.
If you have any suggestions about alternative places to upload the files,
please let me know. I am well aware that some people have ... difficulties
downloading from rapidshare, but I wasn't sure where else I could put the
video.
--
Michael Chang
Please note that not all formatting may be preserved in
Office/Word/Powerpoint documents sent to me. Please use OpenDocument (not
Open XML), HTML, and RTF where possible. See
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
Thank you.
Re: [GHOP] Issue 8 - Review Wicket Screen Cast: Markup Inheritence
Posted by Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>.
OK I just watched the video. It is great, but could use more explanation IMO.
For instance explain what you are going to do before typing. Your
voice is nice to hear, so keep on talking!
You could just use the standard application provided by the quickstart
template though, and modify what you need. This is how people starting
to play with your example will work. This will remove the need to
modify the web.xml file.
Also you can apply 'code complete' more often: for example where you
type in the constructor's name... Just type in the first 3 letters or
so and press ctrl-space. Eclipse will generate the constructor name
for you.
When you implement the links, just say you are going to implement a
menu that will link to two pages: page1 and page2. The base page will
provide the menu, and each page will contribute a part of the final
page inside the wicket:child.
You can note that everything between the wicket:extend tags is
included in the final markup and anything outside those tags is
discarded.
When starting the application, tell something about that we are now
ready to start the application, and tell people where to find the main
method, and then run it as an application.
When you click in the browser, tell people what they see: here is the
content of page1, with the menu of the base page, and when I click the
page2 link you see that we updated the main content and the menu is
still present. Possibly select the specific texts as you explain.
Martijn
On Jan 6, 2008 4:48 PM, Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I tried the mkv video previously but was unable to view it (I only
> heard your voice).
>
> Downloading the AVI now (I have only one download per day ....)
>
> Martijn
>
>
> On Jan 6, 2008 4:37 PM, Michael Chang <th...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I was wondering whether anyone has had problems opening any of the
> > files, and whether there are any submission procedures (e.g. uploads
> > to a certain place; or indicating somewhere that I have released these
> > videos under the appropriate license, etc.) or other issues left for
> > me to complete this task. Thanks!
> >
> > Again, various versions of the screen cast can be found at:
> > http://rapidshare.com/files/80221432/MarkupInheritence-rc2.mkv.html
> > http://rapidshare.com/files/80819725/MarkupInheritence-rc2.avi.html
> > http://rapidshare.com/files/80823201/MI-final-rc2_audio.flv.html
> >
> > --
> > Michael Chang
> >
> > Please note that not all formatting may be preserved in
> > Office/Word/Powerpoint documents sent to me. Please use OpenDocument
> > (not Open XML), HTML, and RTF where possible. See
> > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> > Thank you.
> >
>
>
>
> --
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> Apache Wicket 1.3.0 is released
> Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3.0
>
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Re: [GHOP] Issue 8 - Review Wicket Screen Cast: Markup Inheritence
Posted by Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>.
I tried the mkv video previously but was unable to view it (I only
heard your voice).
Downloading the AVI now (I have only one download per day ....)
Martijn
On Jan 6, 2008 4:37 PM, Michael Chang <th...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I was wondering whether anyone has had problems opening any of the
> files, and whether there are any submission procedures (e.g. uploads
> to a certain place; or indicating somewhere that I have released these
> videos under the appropriate license, etc.) or other issues left for
> me to complete this task. Thanks!
>
> Again, various versions of the screen cast can be found at:
> http://rapidshare.com/files/80221432/MarkupInheritence-rc2.mkv.html
> http://rapidshare.com/files/80819725/MarkupInheritence-rc2.avi.html
> http://rapidshare.com/files/80823201/MI-final-rc2_audio.flv.html
>
> --
> Michael Chang
>
> Please note that not all formatting may be preserved in
> Office/Word/Powerpoint documents sent to me. Please use OpenDocument
> (not Open XML), HTML, and RTF where possible. See
> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> Thank you.
>
--
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