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Posted to dev@struts.apache.org by Kade Jeevan Kumar <je...@yahoo.com> on 2005/11/30 04:56:31 UTC

Clarification on Shale Framewok

 Hi!
  
  I worked on Struts 1.1 and also on 1.2.  I came across Shale framework which is look like the JSF.
  
  Correct me if am wrong and also kindly help me out to know more abt Shale framework.   
  
  I have few questions .
  
  1) How it is related to Struts framework
  2) How it works
  3) Is part of Struts or differ
  4) How it will be useful/ advantage to existing Struts framework
  5) What kind of programming language requried for Shale framework
  6) What i can do with Shale framework.
  7) Is Shale framework going to compete with other frameworks like JSF, which is component oriented architecture
  
  
  may be my question are repeated but help me out in clearing this confusion
  
  -Thanks
  Jeevan

		
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Re: Clarification on Shale Framewok

Posted by Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org>.
On 11/29/05, Kade Jeevan Kumar <je...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
>   I worked on Struts 1.1 and also on 1.2.  I came across Shale framework
> which is look like the JSF.
>
>   Correct me if am wrong and also kindly help me out to know more abt
> Shale framework.


Your best bet for more information is the Shale web site:

    http://struts.apache.org/struts-shale/

Brief answers to your questions follow.

  I have few questions .
>
>   1) How it is related to Struts framework


Shale shares the Struts *community*, but it does not share any code with
Struts 1.x.

  2) How it works


Shale assumes that JavaServer Faces already exists, and adds value by
improving functionality and ease of use.

  3) Is part of Struts or differ


Part of the community, but a different software package.

  4) How it will be useful/ advantage to existing Struts framework


If you want to use JSF with an existing Struts app, your best bet would be
to start from the Struts-Faces integration library instead:

    http://struts.apache.org/struts-faces/

Using Shale would be an option for new development where you wanted to
leverage JSF.

  5) What kind of programming language requried for Shale framework


Java, of course :-)

  6) What i can do with Shale framework.


Build web applications using Java and JSF technology.

  7) Is Shale framework going to compete with other frameworks like JSF,
> which is component oriented architecture


Shale *requires* JSF and extends it with additional ease of use
capabilities, plus features that users of Struts 1.x are familiar with, such
as Tiles and Commons Validator integration.

  may be my question are repeated but help me out in clearing this confusion
>
>   -Thanks
>   Jeevan


Craig

Re: Clarification on Shale Framewok

Posted by Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org>.
I'd suggest you start by reading the documentation - there's quite a bit of
it - and come back (to the User list, not the Dev list) if you still have
questions after that. See:

http://struts.apache.org/struts-shale/index.html

--
Martin Cooper


On 11/29/05, Kade Jeevan Kumar <je...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
>   I worked on Struts 1.1 and also on 1.2.  I came across Shale framework
> which is look like the JSF.
>
>   Correct me if am wrong and also kindly help me out to know more abt
> Shale framework.
>
>   I have few questions .
>
>   1) How it is related to Struts framework
>   2) How it works
>   3) Is part of Struts or differ
>   4) How it will be useful/ advantage to existing Struts framework
>   5) What kind of programming language requried for Shale framework
>   6) What i can do with Shale framework.
>   7) Is Shale framework going to compete with other frameworks like JSF,
> which is component oriented architecture
>
>
>   may be my question are repeated but help me out in clearing this
> confusion
>
>   -Thanks
>   Jeevan
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free.
>

Re: Clarification on Shale Framewok

Posted by Dakota Jack <da...@gmail.com>.
I would suggest that you read the notes that Rod Johnson, the creator
of Spring, on Shale for starters.  Shale should be called "Huckster".


On 11/29/05, Kade Jeevan Kumar <je...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>  Hi!
>
>   I worked on Struts 1.1 and also on 1.2.  I came across Shale framework which is look like the JSF.
>
>   Correct me if am wrong and also kindly help me out to know more abt Shale framework.
>
>   I have few questions .
>
>   1) How it is related to Struts framework
>   2) How it works
>   3) Is part of Struts or differ
>   4) How it will be useful/ advantage to existing Struts framework
>   5) What kind of programming language requried for Shale framework
>   6) What i can do with Shale framework.
>   7) Is Shale framework going to compete with other frameworks like JSF, which is component oriented architecture
>
>
>   may be my question are repeated but help me out in clearing this confusion
>
>   -Thanks
>   Jeevan
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>  Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free.
>


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"You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back."
~Dakota Jack~

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