Draft Message to PMCs

[Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>]

Hi all,

I'd like to reach out to the PMCs that in some way seem to have used
Gump - for some of them it is quite possible they haven't added their
projects themselves.  In a first step I'd like to gauge interest, I'm a
bit unsure whether I should point out they'd need to help out if they
intend to keep Gump running at this point.

The PMCs to contact would be

APR
ActiveMQ
Ant
Camel
Cocoon
Commons
Creadur
Directory
Forrest
HTTP Components
HTTPd
JMeter
James
Lenya
Logging
Lucene
POI
Portals
Tapestry
Tika
Tomcat
Turbine
Velocity
Webservices
XML Graphics
Xalan
Xerces

here is a quick draft of what I'd send out:

Dear FOO PMC

Apache Gump builds some of your projects and it is quite possible you
don't know or have by now forgotten about it.

More than half a year ago a technical problem has forced us to turn off
emails on build failures as we would have been sending out lots of false
alarms.

Before we re-enable emails we'd like to know whether you are still
interested in the service Gump provides, so please tell us. :-)

Metadata for many projects have been neglected for a long time and it is
quite possible they'd need some love for results to be meaningful.  All
Apache committers have write access to Gump's metadata.


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Re: Draft Message to PMCs

[Adam Jack <ad...@gmail.com>]

On 12 Jun 2013, at 01:31, Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org> wrote:

> On 2013-06-11, Adam R. B. Jack wrote:
>
>> As for your letter, I like it. Perhaps add a paragraph as to why Gump
>> does it's builds?
>
> OK.
>
> NOTE: I'd try to find appropriate dev/general lists for each project and
> do with a single mail CCing them all - I wouldn't want to use the
> private lists as there isn't anything in the mail that'd require
> privacy.
>
> Second attempt:

+1

Adam

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Re: Draft Message to PMCs

[Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>]

On 2013-06-11, Adam R. B. Jack wrote:

> As for your letter, I like it. Perhaps add a paragraph as to why Gump
> does it's builds?

OK.

NOTE: I'd try to find appropriate dev/general lists for each project and
do with a single mail CCing them all - I wouldn't want to use the
private lists as there isn't anything in the mail that'd require
privacy.

Second attempt:

Dear Community

Apache Gump builds some of your projects and it is quite possible you
don't know or have by now forgotten about it.

More than half a year ago a technical problem has forced us to turn off
emails on build failures as we would have been sending out lots of false
alarms.

Before we re-enable emails we'd like to know whether you are still
interested in the service Gump provides, so please tell us. :-)

Metadata for many projects have been neglected for a long time and it is
quite possible they'd need some love for results to be meaningful.  All
Apache committers have write access to Gump's metadata.

In case you don't know what this Gump stuff is about:

Apache Gump builds the full stack of the latest commits of software in
order to ensure integrity over releases.  Build failures surface API
discontinuities between projects before they impact releases, and Gump's
e-mail notifications hope to promote the conversations between teams to
resolve those discontinuities.

When responding to this mail please shorten the CC list as appropriate.

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Re: Draft Message to PMCs

["Adam R. B. Jack" <ad...@gmail.com>]

Stefan,

It seems to me that the first data point to gather is if there is general interest in Gump as an ongoing service. If not we have our answer. If yes, then we need to figure out how to resource it & if the level of interest extends to maintaining bits of it.

As for your letter, I like it. Perhaps add a paragraph as to why Gump does it's builds? Something like:

----
Apache Gump builds the full stack of the latest commits of software in order to ensure integrity over releases. Build failures surface API discontinuities between projects before they impact releases, and Gump's e-mail notifications promote the conversations between teams to resolve those discontinuities. 
----

regards

Adam

Adam R. B. Jack
adam.jack@gmail.com
http://neukadye.com



On Jun 11, 2013, at 7:57 AM, Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I'd like to reach out to the PMCs that in some way seem to have used
> Gump - for some of them it is quite possible they haven't added their
> projects themselves.  In a first step I'd like to gauge interest, I'm a
> bit unsure whether I should point out they'd need to help out if they
> intend to keep Gump running at this point.
> 
> The PMCs to contact would be
> 
> APR
> ActiveMQ
> Ant
> Camel
> Cocoon
> Commons
> Creadur
> Directory
> Forrest
> HTTP Components
> HTTPd
> JMeter
> James
> Lenya
> Logging
> Lucene
> POI
> Portals
> Tapestry
> Tika
> Tomcat
> Turbine
> Velocity
> Webservices
> XML Graphics
> Xalan
> Xerces
> 
> here is a quick draft of what I'd send out:
> 
> Dear FOO PMC
> 
> Apache Gump builds some of your projects and it is quite possible you
> don't know or have by now forgotten about it.
> 
> More than half a year ago a technical problem has forced us to turn off
> emails on build failures as we would have been sending out lots of false
> alarms.
> 
> Before we re-enable emails we'd like to know whether you are still
> interested in the service Gump provides, so please tell us. :-)
> 
> Metadata for many projects have been neglected for a long time and it is
> quite possible they'd need some love for results to be meaningful.  All
> Apache committers have write access to Gump's metadata.
> 
> 
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