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[users@httpd] ESTABLISHED connections

if i have this in the

<Directory "/server/doc/root">

        Order allow,deny
        Allow from all
        deny from 111.10.250.188
</Directory>

how come this:

tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.21806
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.21805
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23202
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23188
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22544
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22490
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23364
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23365
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22825
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22751
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22561
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22340
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22339
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23151
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23159
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22698
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22512
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22457
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22416
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22403
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23377
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23376
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23105
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23108
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22803
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22135
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.dcap
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.21924
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.21923
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23329
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23319
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22546
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22545
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22139
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.21694
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.21658
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23075
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23074
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23026
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23025
ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.inovapo
ESTABLISHED


this is growing with every netstat i do.  any ideas???

thanks…

Re: [users@httpd] ESTABLISHED connections

Posted by Mark Montague <ma...@catseye.org>.
On 2015-03-13 19:17, el kalin wrote:
> if i have this in the
>
> <Directory "/server/doc/root">
>         Order allow,deny
>         Allow from all
>         deny from 111.10.250.188
> </Directory>
>
> how come this:
>
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.21806   
> ESTABLISHED

Your configuration says "do not serve anything from the filesystem under 
/server/doc/root to IP address 111.10.250.188".  But httpd does not know 
what the client will request, until the client connects and actually 
makes the request.  The client might ask for something else that httpd 
is allowed to serve to 111.10.250.188.

If you want to prevent the client from connecting, instead of 
restricting what the client is allowed to request after it connects, use 
a firewall.

-- 
   Mark Montague
   mark@catseye.org


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RE: [users@httpd] ESTABLISHED connections

Posted by Gary Smith <Ga...@holdstead.com>.
But isn't that what he's trying to do or did I misread it?  He wants to deny everything on the block list (i.e. the one IP) and allow everything else.

________________________________________
From: Eric Covener [covener@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 4:44 PM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] ESTABLISHED connections

On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 7:21 PM, Gary Smith <Ga...@holdstead.com> wrote:
>         Order deny,allow
>
>         Allow from all
>         deny from 111.10.250.188

"deny,allow" means deny directives are processed before allow
directives.  So this is clearly wrong.

95% of the time, if the order in the config differs from the order in
the Order directive itself, it's probably worth a second look.


--
Eric Covener
covener@gmail.com

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Re: [users@httpd] ESTABLISHED connections

Posted by Eric Covener <co...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 7:21 PM, Gary Smith <Ga...@holdstead.com> wrote:
>         Order deny,allow
>
>         Allow from all
>         deny from 111.10.250.188

"deny,allow" means deny directives are processed before allow
directives.  So this is clearly wrong.

95% of the time, if the order in the config differs from the order in
the Order directive itself, it's probably worth a second look.


-- 
Eric Covener
covener@gmail.com

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RE: [users@httpd] ESTABLISHED connections

Posted by Gary Smith <Ga...@holdstead.com>.
Try flipping the order to deny first.  This is a first match rule IIRC, and since the first rule is Allow from all, the deny isn't hit.





<Directory "/server/doc/root">

        Order deny,allow

        Allow from all
        deny from 111.10.250.188
</Directory>

Sorry for the top post...



________________________________
From: el kalin [kalin@el.net]
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 4:17 PM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: [users@httpd] ESTABLISHED connections


if i have this in the

<Directory "/server/doc/root">

        Order allow,deny
        Allow from all
        deny from 111.10.250.188
</Directory>

how come this:

tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.21806   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.21805   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23202   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23188   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22544   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22490   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23364   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23365   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22825   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22751   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22561   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22340   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22339   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23151   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23159   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22698   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22512   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22457   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22416   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22403   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23377   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23376   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23105   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23108   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22803   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22135   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.dcap     ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.21924   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.21923   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23329   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23319   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22546   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22545   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22139   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.21694   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.21658   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23075   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23074   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23026   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23025   ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.inovapo ESTABLISHED


this is growing with every netstat i do.  any ideas???

thanks…

Re: [users@httpd] ESTABLISHED connections

Posted by Igor Cicimov <ic...@gmail.com>.
On 14/03/2015 2:21 PM, "el kalin" <ka...@el.net> wrote:
>
> i don't see it in package ports…
>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 7:59 PM, Jim Albert <ji...@netrition.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 3/13/2015 7:54 PM, el kalin wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 7:36 PM, Jim Albert <jim@netrition.com
>>> <ma...@netrition.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     On 3/13/2015 7:17 PM, el kalin wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>         if i have this in the
>>>
>>>         <Directory "/server/doc/root">
>>>
>>>                   Order allow,deny
>>>                   Allow from all
>>>                   deny from 111.10.250.188
>>>         </Directory>
>>>         ESTABLISHED
>>>         tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http
111.10.250.188.inovapo
>>>         ESTABLISHED
>>>
>>>
>>>         this is growing with every netstat i do.  any ideas???
>>>
>>>         thanks…
>>>
>>>
>>>     I believe your Order allow, deny is correct.
>>>
>>>
>>> i believe so too...
>>>
>>>     You are controlling what can be served by Apache, but not the actual
>>>     network connection to your Apache server, hence the continued
>>>     entries in your connection table. I would assume your Apache error
>>>     log is spewing lots of access denied or such errors indicating your
>>>     deny is working.
>>>
>>>
>>>     If you really want to keep a given an IP address completely out of
>>>     Apache, block it in iptables or better yet the firewall behind which
>>>     your Apache server sits, but iptables will do it.
>>>
>>>
>>> i'm aware. the problem is that this is an netbsd ec2 (amazon instance)
>>> and the only "firewall" right now is the security groups that service
>>> offers. those are not meant to block individual ips. they are rather all
>>> exclusive. so my only other option was pf. which i'm used to but it
>>> appears that the whole dynamic kernel module loading is screwed up
>>> because of the kernel build to fit xen…   and so on…
>>
>>
>> iptables?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jim Albert
>>
>>
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>
Thought I would mention another option just for the record. If you compile
apache yourself you can compile it with libwrap support and use tcp
wrappers to deny host. Put the host in /etc/hosts.deny and you are done.

httpd: 111.10.250.188/32

or

apache2: 111.10.250.188/32

depends on the name of your binary.

Re: [users@httpd] ESTABLISHED connections

Posted by el kalin <ka...@el.net>.
i don't see it in package ports…

On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 7:59 PM, Jim Albert <ji...@netrition.com> wrote:

> On 3/13/2015 7:54 PM, el kalin wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 7:36 PM, Jim Albert <jim@netrition.com
>> <ma...@netrition.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     On 3/13/2015 7:17 PM, el kalin wrote:
>>
>>
>>         if i have this in the
>>
>>         <Directory "/server/doc/root">
>>
>>                   Order allow,deny
>>                   Allow from all
>>                   deny from 111.10.250.188
>>         </Directory>
>>         ESTABLISHED
>>         tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.inovapo
>>         ESTABLISHED
>>
>>
>>         this is growing with every netstat i do.  any ideas???
>>
>>         thanks…
>>
>>
>>     I believe your Order allow, deny is correct.
>>
>>
>> i believe so too...
>>
>>     You are controlling what can be served by Apache, but not the actual
>>     network connection to your Apache server, hence the continued
>>     entries in your connection table. I would assume your Apache error
>>     log is spewing lots of access denied or such errors indicating your
>>     deny is working.
>>
>>
>>     If you really want to keep a given an IP address completely out of
>>     Apache, block it in iptables or better yet the firewall behind which
>>     your Apache server sits, but iptables will do it.
>>
>>
>> i'm aware. the problem is that this is an netbsd ec2 (amazon instance)
>> and the only "firewall" right now is the security groups that service
>> offers. those are not meant to block individual ips. they are rather all
>> exclusive. so my only other option was pf. which i'm used to but it
>> appears that the whole dynamic kernel module loading is screwed up
>> because of the kernel build to fit xen…   and so on…
>>
>
> iptables?
>
>
> --
> Jim Albert
>
>
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Re: [users@httpd] ESTABLISHED connections

Posted by Jim Albert <ji...@netrition.com>.
On 3/13/2015 7:54 PM, el kalin wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 7:36 PM, Jim Albert <jim@netrition.com
> <ma...@netrition.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 3/13/2015 7:17 PM, el kalin wrote:
>
>
>         if i have this in the
>
>         <Directory "/server/doc/root">
>
>                   Order allow,deny
>                   Allow from all
>                   deny from 111.10.250.188
>         </Directory>
>         ESTABLISHED
>         tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.inovapo
>         ESTABLISHED
>
>
>         this is growing with every netstat i do.  any ideas???
>
>         thanks…
>
>
>     I believe your Order allow, deny is correct.
>
>
> i believe so too...
>
>     You are controlling what can be served by Apache, but not the actual
>     network connection to your Apache server, hence the continued
>     entries in your connection table. I would assume your Apache error
>     log is spewing lots of access denied or such errors indicating your
>     deny is working.
>
>
>     If you really want to keep a given an IP address completely out of
>     Apache, block it in iptables or better yet the firewall behind which
>     your Apache server sits, but iptables will do it.
>
>
> i'm aware. the problem is that this is an netbsd ec2 (amazon instance)
> and the only "firewall" right now is the security groups that service
> offers. those are not meant to block individual ips. they are rather all
> exclusive. so my only other option was pf. which i'm used to but it
> appears that the whole dynamic kernel module loading is screwed up
> because of the kernel build to fit xen…   and so on…

iptables?

-- 
Jim Albert


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Re: [users@httpd] ESTABLISHED connections

Posted by el kalin <ka...@el.net>.
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 7:36 PM, Jim Albert <ji...@netrition.com> wrote:

> On 3/13/2015 7:17 PM, el kalin wrote:
>
>>
>> if i have this in the
>>
>> <Directory "/server/doc/root">
>>
>>          Order allow,deny
>>          Allow from all
>>          deny from 111.10.250.188
>> </Directory>
>> ESTABLISHED
>> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.inovapo
>> ESTABLISHED
>>
>>
>> this is growing with every netstat i do.  any ideas???
>>
>> thanks…
>>
>
> I believe your Order allow, deny is correct.
>

i believe so too...


> You are controlling what can be served by Apache, but not the actual
> network connection to your Apache server, hence the continued entries in
> your connection table. I would assume your Apache error log is spewing lots
> of access denied or such errors indicating your deny is working.


> If you really want to keep a given an IP address completely out of Apache,
> block it in iptables or better yet the firewall behind which your Apache
> server sits, but iptables will do it.


i'm aware. the problem is that this is an netbsd ec2 (amazon instance) and
the only "firewall" right now is the security groups that service offers.
those are not meant to block individual ips. they are rather all exclusive.
so my only other option was pf. which i'm used to but it appears that the
whole dynamic kernel module loading is screwed up because of the kernel
build to fit xen…   and so on…



> --
> Jim Albert
>
>
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>

Re: [users@httpd] ESTABLISHED connections

Posted by Jim Albert <ji...@netrition.com>.
On 3/13/2015 7:17 PM, el kalin wrote:
>
> if i have this in the
>
> <Directory "/server/doc/root">
>
>          Order allow,deny
>          Allow from all
>          deny from 111.10.250.188
> </Directory>
>
> how come this:
>
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.21806
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.21805
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23202
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23188
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22544
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22490
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23364
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23365
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22825
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22751
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22561
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22340
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22339
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23151
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23159
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22698
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22512
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22457
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22416
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22403
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23377
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23376
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23105
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23108
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22803
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22135
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.dcap
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.21924
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.21923
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23329
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23319
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22546
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22545
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.22139
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.21694
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.21658
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23075
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23074
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23026
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.23025
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp        0      0  ip-10-102-190-93.http  111.10.250.188.inovapo
> ESTABLISHED
>
>
> this is growing with every netstat i do.  any ideas???
>
> thanks…

I believe your Order allow, deny is correct.
You are controlling what can be served by Apache, but not the actual 
network connection to your Apache server, hence the continued entries in 
your connection table. I would assume your Apache error log is spewing 
lots of access denied or such errors indicating your deny is working.

If you really want to keep a given an IP address completely out of 
Apache, block it in iptables or better yet the firewall behind which 
your Apache server sits, but iptables will do it.

-- 
Jim Albert


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