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Posted to dev@corinthia.apache.org by "Dennis E. Hamilton" <de...@acm.org> on 2015/02/11 01:32:40 UTC
FW: GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far
It appears that we can mark issues for improvements and such in our JIRA, using "gsoc2015" as a label, and ideas will be included in the compilation linked at the end of the attachment, below.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ulrich Stärk [mailto:uli@spielviel.de]
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 14:24
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far
Hi Folks,
Our ideas list for GSoC projects [1] so far has only 38 entries. IMO this number is extremely low
given the number of projects at Apache. I conclude that interest in GSoC this year is either very
low or that my initial email has not reached the right people.
Please help me spread the word by reminding your projects' communities of GSoC and the great
opportunity for community building it provides.
Thanks,
Uli
[1] http://s.apache.org/gsoc2015ideas
RE: GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far
Posted by "Dennis E. Hamilton" <de...@acm.org>.
I'm not OK with the switching mentors business. Corinthia doesn't have the depth to allow that. I think that is inappropriate here regardless.
In any case, it is apparently a requirement that the mentor who creates the possible project be someone capable of carrying it out themselves, although the project definition is not a promise to do so.
- Dennis
-- in reply to --
From: Louis Suárez-Potts [mailto:luispo@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 10:23
To: dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org
Cc: Dennis E. Hamilton
Subject: Re: GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far
> On 11-02-2015, at 13:10, jan i <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
[ ... ]
Back then, I did little with actual mentoring. My goal *then* (not now) was basically to induce (poach?) developers.
>
> I am all for that we submit GSoC proposals, but whoever sign up as mentor,
> should be prepared for the technical challenge....of course we can also
> define projects (like I did for VALs) that require less programming skills,
> but programming is mandatory for GSoC.
Yes. I understand you, Jan. Here is what I proposed. If there is a deadline issue, the mentor initially put forth could be switched out for someone else more capable to taken on the task. This is a classic tactic for obtaining grants.
>
> If you want to sign up, Uli has outlined the procedure.
Okay.
>
> rgds
> jan i.
>
>
>
>> louis
>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- Replying below to --
>>>> From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 00:35
>>>> To: dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org; dennis.hamilton@acm.org
>>>> Subject: Re: GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, February 11, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton <
>>>> dennis.hamilton@acm.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Two questions:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. It appears to me that the compilation of JIRA issues with label
>>>>> gsoc2015 is created from the global ASF JIRA, so any project can create
>>>>> them. Do I misunderstand that?
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Are you saying that creation of such an issue is an offer to mentor
>>>>> such a project, if someone takes up the proposal?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> read the suggested wiki pages (see first mail from uli).
>>>> <orcmid>
>>>> Apparently I did not notice a "first mail from uli."
>>>> However, he has replied on dev @oo.a.o with som info.
>>>> I don't know about suggested wiki pages though.
>>>> </orcmid>
>>>>
>>>> you should first sign up as mentor, then submit proposals, thus us to
>> make
>>>> sure that each proposal is real, meaning if the students choose it,
>> there
>>>> is a mentor availabke.
>>>> <orcmid>
>>>> That is my understanding. Thank you.
>>>> </orcmid>
>>>>
>>>> rgds
>>>> jan i
>>>>
>>>> [ ... ]
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
Re: GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far
Posted by jan i <ja...@apache.org>.
On Wednesday, February 11, 2015, Louis Suárez-Potts <lu...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> > On 11-02-2015, at 13:10, jan i <jani@apache.org <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > On 11 February 2015 at 19:00, Louis Suárez-Potts <luispo@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>> On 11-02-2015, at 12:54, jan i <jani@apache.org <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 11 February 2015 at 18:17, Dennis E. Hamilton <
> >> dennis.hamilton@acm.org <javascript:;>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Side question: Is it premature to have Corinthia tasks in GSoC 2015?
> >>>>
> >>> absolutely not....would be real nice to have. But we need somebody who
> >> can
> >>> do the technical mentoring.
> >>>
> >>> Without a mentor, there are no meaning in suggesting tasks.
> >>>
> >>> I am caught up with some other projects, so I do not have the time
> needed
> >>> (and we talk about quite a lot of time) to be a GSoC mentor this year.
> >>>
> >>> Rgds
> >>> jan i
> >>>
> >>
> >> I would be happy to officiate as a mentor until such time as a "real"
> >> mentor (aka a savant) comes up. For instance, what sort of technical
> tasks
> >> are imagined as being wanted? And what would the mentor be doing? When
> we
> >> did this before, for OOo, the role of the mentor really depended hugely
> on
> >> the ambition and capability of the student.
> >>
> > The mentor is (as of GSoC definition) the person that drives the GSoC
> task,
> > and link the student(s) to the rest of hte project. The Mentor is
> expected
> > to be technically skilled and able to help the student with programming
> > decisions.
> >
> > I was not aware that OOo participated in GSoC ? please be aware that GSoC
> > expects more technical skills from the mentors, that you find in many
> > university projects. I am aware the AOO participated with jsc mentoring a
> > student in UNO, and I also remember jürgen telling how difficult it was
> for
> > him.
>
> OOo participated in several, including some of the earliest; this was
> before the War over Java (regarding validation and leading to the rise of
> Classpath). I oversaw this effort and participated in the Mountain View
> meetings with Juergen Schmidt, who was subordinate to my peer in Hamburg;
> both of us were in the engineering. I don’t recall if Juergen was a mentor
> at this time—around 2006?—or if it was not some other, more senior
> developer in Hamburg. However, what you write about Juergen’s experience is
> useful to know. (I also rather pity him for mentoring a student on UNO.
> Wouldn’t you?) (Regarding the other times, I think we did it twice, with
> Google. Then we also had a rather successful program within OOo funded by
> Sun for a couple of years, and that produced some good work and advanced
> the program in accessibility (DAISY) and elsewhere. This work was all very
> technical and supervised by advanced advanced developers. But not all were
> with Sun; for the DAISY project, we had outside contributors supervise the
> development of the module. Perhaps something like that can be done here.)
>
>
> Back then, I did little with actual mentoring. My goal *then* (not now)
> was basically to induce (poach?) developers.
> >
> > I am all for that we submit GSoC proposals, but whoever sign up as
> mentor,
> > should be prepared for the technical challenge....of course we can also
> > define projects (like I did for VALs) that require less programming
> skills,
> > but programming is mandatory for GSoC.
>
> Yes. I understand you, Jan. Here is what I proposed. If there is a
> deadline issue, the mentor initially put forth could be switched out for
> someone else more capable to taken on the task. This is a classic tactic
> for obtaining grants.
the deadline issue is that proposals with mentors need to be done before
fe. 13th 19:00utc. Switching mentor should be possible, but at least I
cannot do the actual mentor work, as I expect to be heavely involved in
getting changes implemented in AOO.
Rgds
jan i
> >
> > If you want to sign up, Uli has outlined the procedure.
>
> Okay.
> >
> > rgds
> > jan i.
> >
> >
> >
> >> louis
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -- Replying below to --
> >>>> From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org <javascript:;>]
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 00:35
> >>>> To: dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;>;
> dennis.hamilton@acm.org <javascript:;>
> >>>> Subject: Re: GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wednesday, February 11, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton <
> >>>> dennis.hamilton@acm.org <javascript:;>>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Two questions:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1. It appears to me that the compilation of JIRA issues with label
> >>>>> gsoc2015 is created from the global ASF JIRA, so any project can
> create
> >>>>> them. Do I misunderstand that?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2. Are you saying that creation of such an issue is an offer to
> mentor
> >>>>> such a project, if someone takes up the proposal?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> read the suggested wiki pages (see first mail from uli).
> >>>> <orcmid>
> >>>> Apparently I did not notice a "first mail from uli."
> >>>> However, he has replied on dev @oo.a.o with som info.
> >>>> I don't know about suggested wiki pages though.
> >>>> </orcmid>
> >>>>
> >>>> you should first sign up as mentor, then submit proposals, thus us to
> >> make
> >>>> sure that each proposal is real, meaning if the students choose it,
> >> there
> >>>> is a mentor availabke.
> >>>> <orcmid>
> >>>> That is my understanding. Thank you.
> >>>> </orcmid>
> >>>>
> >>>> rgds
> >>>> jan i
> >>>>
> >>>> [ ... ]
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
>
>
--
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Re: GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far
Posted by Louis Suárez-Potts <lu...@gmail.com>.
> On 11-02-2015, at 13:10, jan i <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On 11 February 2015 at 19:00, Louis Suárez-Potts <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>> On 11-02-2015, at 12:54, jan i <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 11 February 2015 at 18:17, Dennis E. Hamilton <
>> dennis.hamilton@acm.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Side question: Is it premature to have Corinthia tasks in GSoC 2015?
>>>>
>>> absolutely not....would be real nice to have. But we need somebody who
>> can
>>> do the technical mentoring.
>>>
>>> Without a mentor, there are no meaning in suggesting tasks.
>>>
>>> I am caught up with some other projects, so I do not have the time needed
>>> (and we talk about quite a lot of time) to be a GSoC mentor this year.
>>>
>>> Rgds
>>> jan i
>>>
>>
>> I would be happy to officiate as a mentor until such time as a "real"
>> mentor (aka a savant) comes up. For instance, what sort of technical tasks
>> are imagined as being wanted? And what would the mentor be doing? When we
>> did this before, for OOo, the role of the mentor really depended hugely on
>> the ambition and capability of the student.
>>
> The mentor is (as of GSoC definition) the person that drives the GSoC task,
> and link the student(s) to the rest of hte project. The Mentor is expected
> to be technically skilled and able to help the student with programming
> decisions.
>
> I was not aware that OOo participated in GSoC ? please be aware that GSoC
> expects more technical skills from the mentors, that you find in many
> university projects. I am aware the AOO participated with jsc mentoring a
> student in UNO, and I also remember jürgen telling how difficult it was for
> him.
OOo participated in several, including some of the earliest; this was before the War over Java (regarding validation and leading to the rise of Classpath). I oversaw this effort and participated in the Mountain View meetings with Juergen Schmidt, who was subordinate to my peer in Hamburg; both of us were in the engineering. I don’t recall if Juergen was a mentor at this time—around 2006?—or if it was not some other, more senior developer in Hamburg. However, what you write about Juergen’s experience is useful to know. (I also rather pity him for mentoring a student on UNO. Wouldn’t you?) (Regarding the other times, I think we did it twice, with Google. Then we also had a rather successful program within OOo funded by Sun for a couple of years, and that produced some good work and advanced the program in accessibility (DAISY) and elsewhere. This work was all very technical and supervised by advanced advanced developers. But not all were with Sun; for the DAISY project, we had outside contributors supervise the development of the module. Perhaps something like that can be done here.)
Back then, I did little with actual mentoring. My goal *then* (not now) was basically to induce (poach?) developers.
>
> I am all for that we submit GSoC proposals, but whoever sign up as mentor,
> should be prepared for the technical challenge....of course we can also
> define projects (like I did for VALs) that require less programming skills,
> but programming is mandatory for GSoC.
Yes. I understand you, Jan. Here is what I proposed. If there is a deadline issue, the mentor initially put forth could be switched out for someone else more capable to taken on the task. This is a classic tactic for obtaining grants.
>
> If you want to sign up, Uli has outlined the procedure.
Okay.
>
> rgds
> jan i.
>
>
>
>> louis
>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- Replying below to --
>>>> From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 00:35
>>>> To: dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org; dennis.hamilton@acm.org
>>>> Subject: Re: GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, February 11, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton <
>>>> dennis.hamilton@acm.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Two questions:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. It appears to me that the compilation of JIRA issues with label
>>>>> gsoc2015 is created from the global ASF JIRA, so any project can create
>>>>> them. Do I misunderstand that?
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Are you saying that creation of such an issue is an offer to mentor
>>>>> such a project, if someone takes up the proposal?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> read the suggested wiki pages (see first mail from uli).
>>>> <orcmid>
>>>> Apparently I did not notice a "first mail from uli."
>>>> However, he has replied on dev @oo.a.o with som info.
>>>> I don't know about suggested wiki pages though.
>>>> </orcmid>
>>>>
>>>> you should first sign up as mentor, then submit proposals, thus us to
>> make
>>>> sure that each proposal is real, meaning if the students choose it,
>> there
>>>> is a mentor availabke.
>>>> <orcmid>
>>>> That is my understanding. Thank you.
>>>> </orcmid>
>>>>
>>>> rgds
>>>> jan i
>>>>
>>>> [ ... ]
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
Re: GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far
Posted by jan i <ja...@apache.org>.
On 11 February 2015 at 19:00, Louis Suárez-Potts <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 11-02-2015, at 12:54, jan i <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > On 11 February 2015 at 18:17, Dennis E. Hamilton <
> dennis.hamilton@acm.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Side question: Is it premature to have Corinthia tasks in GSoC 2015?
> >>
> > absolutely not....would be real nice to have. But we need somebody who
> can
> > do the technical mentoring.
> >
> > Without a mentor, there are no meaning in suggesting tasks.
> >
> > I am caught up with some other projects, so I do not have the time needed
> > (and we talk about quite a lot of time) to be a GSoC mentor this year.
> >
> > Rgds
> > jan i
> >
>
> I would be happy to officiate as a mentor until such time as a "real"
> mentor (aka a savant) comes up. For instance, what sort of technical tasks
> are imagined as being wanted? And what would the mentor be doing? When we
> did this before, for OOo, the role of the mentor really depended hugely on
> the ambition and capability of the student.
>
The mentor is (as of GSoC definition) the person that drives the GSoC task,
and link the student(s) to the rest of hte project. The Mentor is expected
to be technically skilled and able to help the student with programming
decisions.
I was not aware that OOo participated in GSoC ? please be aware that GSoC
expects more technical skills from the mentors, that you find in many
university projects. I am aware the AOO participated with jsc mentoring a
student in UNO, and I also remember jürgen telling how difficult it was for
him.
I am all for that we submit GSoC proposals, but whoever sign up as mentor,
should be prepared for the technical challenge....of course we can also
define projects (like I did for VALs) that require less programming skills,
but programming is mandatory for GSoC.
If you want to sign up, Uli has outlined the procedure.
rgds
jan i.
> louis
> >
> >>
> >> -- Replying below to --
> >> From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 00:35
> >> To: dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org; dennis.hamilton@acm.org
> >> Subject: Re: GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, February 11, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton <
> >> dennis.hamilton@acm.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Two questions:
> >>>
> >>> 1. It appears to me that the compilation of JIRA issues with label
> >>> gsoc2015 is created from the global ASF JIRA, so any project can create
> >>> them. Do I misunderstand that?
> >>>
> >>> 2. Are you saying that creation of such an issue is an offer to mentor
> >>> such a project, if someone takes up the proposal?
> >>
> >>
> >> read the suggested wiki pages (see first mail from uli).
> >> <orcmid>
> >> Apparently I did not notice a "first mail from uli."
> >> However, he has replied on dev @oo.a.o with som info.
> >> I don't know about suggested wiki pages though.
> >> </orcmid>
> >>
> >> you should first sign up as mentor, then submit proposals, thus us to
> make
> >> sure that each proposal is real, meaning if the students choose it,
> there
> >> is a mentor availabke.
> >> <orcmid>
> >> That is my understanding. Thank you.
> >> </orcmid>
> >>
> >> rgds
> >> jan i
> >>
> >> [ ... ]
> >>
> >>
>
>
Re: GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far
Posted by Louis Suárez-Potts <lu...@gmail.com>.
> On 11-02-2015, at 12:54, jan i <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On 11 February 2015 at 18:17, Dennis E. Hamilton <de...@acm.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Side question: Is it premature to have Corinthia tasks in GSoC 2015?
>>
> absolutely not....would be real nice to have. But we need somebody who can
> do the technical mentoring.
>
> Without a mentor, there are no meaning in suggesting tasks.
>
> I am caught up with some other projects, so I do not have the time needed
> (and we talk about quite a lot of time) to be a GSoC mentor this year.
>
> Rgds
> jan i
>
I would be happy to officiate as a mentor until such time as a "real" mentor (aka a savant) comes up. For instance, what sort of technical tasks are imagined as being wanted? And what would the mentor be doing? When we did this before, for OOo, the role of the mentor really depended hugely on the ambition and capability of the student.
louis
>
>>
>> -- Replying below to --
>> From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 00:35
>> To: dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org; dennis.hamilton@acm.org
>> Subject: Re: GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 11, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton <
>> dennis.hamilton@acm.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Two questions:
>>>
>>> 1. It appears to me that the compilation of JIRA issues with label
>>> gsoc2015 is created from the global ASF JIRA, so any project can create
>>> them. Do I misunderstand that?
>>>
>>> 2. Are you saying that creation of such an issue is an offer to mentor
>>> such a project, if someone takes up the proposal?
>>
>>
>> read the suggested wiki pages (see first mail from uli).
>> <orcmid>
>> Apparently I did not notice a "first mail from uli."
>> However, he has replied on dev @oo.a.o with som info.
>> I don't know about suggested wiki pages though.
>> </orcmid>
>>
>> you should first sign up as mentor, then submit proposals, thus us to make
>> sure that each proposal is real, meaning if the students choose it, there
>> is a mentor availabke.
>> <orcmid>
>> That is my understanding. Thank you.
>> </orcmid>
>>
>> rgds
>> jan i
>>
>> [ ... ]
>>
>>
Re: GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far
Posted by jan i <ja...@apache.org>.
On 11 February 2015 at 18:17, Dennis E. Hamilton <de...@acm.org>
wrote:
> Side question: Is it premature to have Corinthia tasks in GSoC 2015?
>
absolutely not....would be real nice to have. But we need somebody who can
do the technical mentoring.
Without a mentor, there are no meaning in suggesting tasks.
I am caught up with some other projects, so I do not have the time needed
(and we talk about quite a lot of time) to be a GSoC mentor this year.
Rgds
jan i
>
> -- Replying below to --
> From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 00:35
> To: dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org; dennis.hamilton@acm.org
> Subject: Re: GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far
>
> On Wednesday, February 11, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton <
> dennis.hamilton@acm.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Two questions:
> >
> > 1. It appears to me that the compilation of JIRA issues with label
> > gsoc2015 is created from the global ASF JIRA, so any project can create
> > them. Do I misunderstand that?
> >
> > 2. Are you saying that creation of such an issue is an offer to mentor
> > such a project, if someone takes up the proposal?
>
>
> read the suggested wiki pages (see first mail from uli).
> <orcmid>
> Apparently I did not notice a "first mail from uli."
> However, he has replied on dev @oo.a.o with som info.
> I don't know about suggested wiki pages though.
> </orcmid>
>
> you should first sign up as mentor, then submit proposals, thus us to make
> sure that each proposal is real, meaning if the students choose it, there
> is a mentor availabke.
> <orcmid>
> That is my understanding. Thank you.
> </orcmid>
>
> rgds
> jan i
>
> [ ... ]
>
>
Re: GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far
Posted by jan i <ja...@apache.org>.
On 11 February 2015 at 19:34, Dennis E. Hamilton <de...@acm.org>
wrote:
> -- replying below to --
> From: Louis Suárez-Potts [mailto:luispo@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 09:28
> To: dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org; Dennis E. Hamilton
> Subject: Re: GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far
>
>
> > On 11-02-2015, at 12:17, Dennis E. Hamilton <de...@acm.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Side question: Is it premature to have Corinthia tasks in GSoC 2015?
>
> No
>
> <orcmid>
> I just ran across an useful requirement in tracking down
> guidelines for GSoC 2015. A mentor must be someone who
> is capable of performing the activity themselves.
> I am assuming that is so the mentor can guide someone
> else through it and also help verify the work at a
> detailed level as well as verify the achievement of the
> result.
>
> I wonder what we have that is sufficiently free-standing
> that someone beside Peter could be the mentor and that
> one of us could do ourselves.
>
I do think I am capable of doing it for most parts of the code. It is true
that peter wrote the code originally, but I have now
been working with the code for the better part of a half year. So if I were
to mentor, it coulld be all of the C code, but the not JS code.
The JS code is surely the easiest part to get involved in, since it does
not really require a lot of in depth knowledge with the internals of
DocFormats.
A httpd module, that wraps around a virtual DocFormates API, would also be
easy to mentor.
Finally expanding our test harness would be easy.
>
> Ideas?
>
> PS: This might not get anywhere in time for GSoC 2015,
> But it strikes me as a valuable inquiry to make at this
> point.
>
Well hopefully next year we will have a stable DocFormats, and more C
developers involved, so the question will be different.
rgds
jan i
> </orcmid>
>
>
>
>
RE: GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far
Posted by "Dennis E. Hamilton" <de...@acm.org>.
-- replying below to --
From: Louis Suárez-Potts [mailto:luispo@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 09:28
To: dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org; Dennis E. Hamilton
Subject: Re: GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far
> On 11-02-2015, at 12:17, Dennis E. Hamilton <de...@acm.org> wrote:
>
> Side question: Is it premature to have Corinthia tasks in GSoC 2015?
No
<orcmid>
I just ran across an useful requirement in tracking down
guidelines for GSoC 2015. A mentor must be someone who
is capable of performing the activity themselves.
I am assuming that is so the mentor can guide someone
else through it and also help verify the work at a
detailed level as well as verify the achievement of the
result.
I wonder what we have that is sufficiently free-standing
that someone beside Peter could be the mentor and that
one of us could do ourselves.
Ideas?
PS: This might not get anywhere in time for GSoC 2015,
But it strikes me as a valuable inquiry to make at this
point.
</orcmid>
Re: GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far
Posted by Louis Suárez-Potts <lu...@gmail.com>.
> On 11-02-2015, at 12:17, Dennis E. Hamilton <de...@acm.org> wrote:
>
> Side question: Is it premature to have Corinthia tasks in GSoC 2015?
no
>
> -- Replying below to --
> From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 00:35
> To: dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org; dennis.hamilton@acm.org
> Subject: Re: GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far
>
> On Wednesday, February 11, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton <de...@acm.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Two questions:
>>
>> 1. It appears to me that the compilation of JIRA issues with label
>> gsoc2015 is created from the global ASF JIRA, so any project can create
>> them. Do I misunderstand that?
>>
>> 2. Are you saying that creation of such an issue is an offer to mentor
>> such a project, if someone takes up the proposal?
>
>
> read the suggested wiki pages (see first mail from uli).
> <orcmid>
> Apparently I did not notice a "first mail from uli."
> However, he has replied on dev @oo.a.o with som info.
> I don't know about suggested wiki pages though.
> </orcmid>
>
> you should first sign up as mentor, then submit proposals, thus us to make
> sure that each proposal is real, meaning if the students choose it, there
> is a mentor availabke.
> <orcmid>
> That is my understanding. Thank you.
> </orcmid>
>
> rgds
> jan i
>
> [ ... ]
>
RE: GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far
Posted by "Dennis E. Hamilton" <de...@acm.org>.
Side question: Is it premature to have Corinthia tasks in GSoC 2015?
-- Replying below to --
From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org]
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 00:35
To: dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org; dennis.hamilton@acm.org
Subject: Re: GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far
On Wednesday, February 11, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton <de...@acm.org>
wrote:
> Two questions:
>
> 1. It appears to me that the compilation of JIRA issues with label
> gsoc2015 is created from the global ASF JIRA, so any project can create
> them. Do I misunderstand that?
>
> 2. Are you saying that creation of such an issue is an offer to mentor
> such a project, if someone takes up the proposal?
read the suggested wiki pages (see first mail from uli).
<orcmid>
Apparently I did not notice a "first mail from uli."
However, he has replied on dev @oo.a.o with som info.
I don't know about suggested wiki pages though.
</orcmid>
you should first sign up as mentor, then submit proposals, thus us to make
sure that each proposal is real, meaning if the students choose it, there
is a mentor availabke.
<orcmid>
That is my understanding. Thank you.
</orcmid>
rgds
jan i
[ ... ]
Re: GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far
Posted by jan i <ja...@apache.org>.
On Wednesday, February 11, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton <de...@acm.org>
wrote:
> Two questions:
>
> 1. It appears to me that the compilation of JIRA issues with label
> gsoc2015 is created from the global ASF JIRA, so any project can create
> them. Do I misunderstand that?
>
> 2. Are you saying that creation of such an issue is an offer to mentor
> such a project, if someone takes up the proposal?
read the suggested wiki pages (see first mail from uli).
you should first sign up as mentor, then submit proposals, thus us to make
sure that each proposal is real, meaning if the students choose it, there
is a mentor availabke.
rgds
jan i
>
> - Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org <javascript:;>]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 16:55
> To: dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;>;
> dennis.hamilton@acm.org <javascript:;>
> Subject: Re: GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far
>
> On Wednesday, February 11, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton <
> dennis.hamilton@acm.org <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> > It appears that we can mark issues for improvements and such in our JIRA,
> > using "gsoc2015" as a label, and ideas will be included in the
> compilation
> > linked at the end of the attachment, below.
>
> not in our jira.
>
>
> we cannot just add issues, before that we need mentors to sign up
>
> rgds
> jan i
>
> >
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ulrich Stärk [mailto:uli@spielviel.de <javascript:;>
> <javascript:;>]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 14:24
> > To: dev@community.apache.org <javascript:;> <javascript:;>
> > Subject: GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far
> >
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > Our ideas list for GSoC projects [1] so far has only 38 entries. IMO this
> > number is extremely low
> > given the number of projects at Apache. I conclude that interest in GSoC
> > this year is either very
> > low or that my initial email has not reached the right people.
> >
> > Please help me spread the word by reminding your projects' communities of
> > GSoC and the great
> > opportunity for community building it provides.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Uli
> >
> >
> > [1] http://s.apache.org/gsoc2015ideas
> >
> >
>
> --
> Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings.
>
>
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RE: GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far
Posted by "Dennis E. Hamilton" <de...@acm.org>.
Two questions:
1. It appears to me that the compilation of JIRA issues with label gsoc2015 is created from the global ASF JIRA, so any project can create them. Do I misunderstand that?
2. Are you saying that creation of such an issue is an offer to mentor such a project, if someone takes up the proposal?
- Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org]
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 16:55
To: dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org; dennis.hamilton@acm.org
Subject: Re: GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far
On Wednesday, February 11, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton <de...@acm.org>
wrote:
> It appears that we can mark issues for improvements and such in our JIRA,
> using "gsoc2015" as a label, and ideas will be included in the compilation
> linked at the end of the attachment, below.
not in our jira.
we cannot just add issues, before that we need mentors to sign up
rgds
jan i
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ulrich Stärk [mailto:uli@spielviel.de <javascript:;>]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 14:24
> To: dev@community.apache.org <javascript:;>
> Subject: GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> Our ideas list for GSoC projects [1] so far has only 38 entries. IMO this
> number is extremely low
> given the number of projects at Apache. I conclude that interest in GSoC
> this year is either very
> low or that my initial email has not reached the right people.
>
> Please help me spread the word by reminding your projects' communities of
> GSoC and the great
> opportunity for community building it provides.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Uli
>
>
> [1] http://s.apache.org/gsoc2015ideas
>
>
--
Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings.
Re: GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far
Posted by jan i <ja...@apache.org>.
On Wednesday, February 11, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton <de...@acm.org>
wrote:
> It appears that we can mark issues for improvements and such in our JIRA,
> using "gsoc2015" as a label, and ideas will be included in the compilation
> linked at the end of the attachment, below.
not in our jira.
we cannot just add issues, before that we need mentors to sign up
rgds
jan i
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ulrich Stärk [mailto:uli@spielviel.de <javascript:;>]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 14:24
> To: dev@community.apache.org <javascript:;>
> Subject: GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> Our ideas list for GSoC projects [1] so far has only 38 entries. IMO this
> number is extremely low
> given the number of projects at Apache. I conclude that interest in GSoC
> this year is either very
> low or that my initial email has not reached the right people.
>
> Please help me spread the word by reminding your projects' communities of
> GSoC and the great
> opportunity for community building it provides.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Uli
>
>
> [1] http://s.apache.org/gsoc2015ideas
>
>
--
Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings.