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Posted to user@struts.apache.org by Adam Hardy <ah...@cyberspaceroad.com> on 2005/07/06 21:51:54 UTC
Re: [OT] Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books Recommendations
Bob,
if you didn't realise, Mark had gone into voluntary exile about 2 years
ago (on the advice of the 'list elders' I believe).
His re-appearance in such a fashion was surprising (and slightly weird -
I have no idea why he resubscribed unless it was just to play the troll.
He didn't ask any struts questions, I don't think).
Adam
rah@onebox.com on 06/07/05 19:58, wrote:
[snip]
> So, I want thank all those who didn't let the "shock and awe" of
> Mark's remarks stop them from speaking up. And, if Mark really was
> fired, was there any other way to make Mark accountable for his
> behavior? Right now, I can't think of any, but I'd be happy hear
> suggestions that *really* would have worked with Mark.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bob Harris
>
>
>
> --- Daniel Perry <d....@netcase.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>> Hah, it's the business use of web/email they fire you for. Go read
>> your terms of employment, and the reference to "IT acceptible use
>> policy" that you inadvertantly agreed to.
>>
>> There have been cases in the uk where they have done this as it's
>> much cheaper to hunt out employees who have sent dodgy emails/had a
>> sexual advert popup/etc than to actually pay people redundancy.
>>
>> Note that i agree it's a bit harsh to get the guy fired. Still,
>> who really wants to work for a company that will fire you over a
>> comment you make on a mailing list?
>>
>> Daniel.
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Rick Reumann
>>> [mailto:struttin@reumann.net] Sent: 06 July 2005 17:42 To: Struts
>>> Users Mailing List Subject: Fired???? was...Re: Struts Books
>>
>> Recommendations
>>
>>>
>>> Mark Galbreath wrote the following on 7/6/2005
>>
>> 10:19 AM:
>>
>>>> Thanks to whomever emailed last weeks nonsense
>>
>> thread to the Director
>>
>>>> of the Board of Elections. It made me look like
>>
>> a racist and I was
>>
>>>> fired this morning. The State is also looking
>>
>> into whether my use of
>>
>>>> an official email address for that discussion is
>>
>> in violation of state
>>
>>>> law. You did your work well, you low-life
>>
>> bastard.
>>
>>>> Signing off.... Mark
>>>>
>>>
>>> Whoever did send something is such a loser it's
>>
>> not even funny. At least
>>
>>> step forward and admit who you are. I constantly
>>
>> here bigotted stuff on
>>
>>> mailing lists and forums, yet I don't go running
>>
>> like a little baby to
>>
>>> find out their employeer so I can "tattle" on them
>>
>> like a 3rd grader.
>>
>>> I'd much rather the internet be open for a free
>>
>> exchange of ideas
>>
>>> (regardless of whether we agree with them or not)
>>
>> without having to fear
>>
>>> someone is going to hunt down who I am and state
>>
>> my comments to my
>>
>>> employeer or wife.
>>>
>>> I can't believe I now have to watch what I say on
>>
>> this mailing list.
>>
>>> Guess I will be making up a gmail account that
>>
>> doesn't use my real name
>>
>>> just to help protect myself from losers like this
>>
>> person.
>>
>>> It's sad the same thing happened to a guy working
>>
>> at Allstate who
>>
>>> happened to post that he felt homosexulaity was
>>
>> wrong on a non-company
>>
>>> related website
>>
>> http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44961
>>
>>> The irony is I guess Mark should have said how
>>
>> "The US is so evil for
>>
>>> being in Iraq" or "How he hates pro-life
>>
>> Christians" and maybe he would
>>
>>> have gotten a promotion. Or better yet, what if he
>>
>> was gay and posted
>>
>>> all over some homosexual website about how he
>>
>> wanted to do all these
>>
>>> sexual things with some other males and farm
>>
>> animals, and I as his
>>
>>> employeer, found out about it and found it was
>>
>> offensive so I fired him.
>>
>>> I will bet you *anything* that the ACLU would be
>>
>> on my back so fast it
>>
>>> wouldn't even be funny and I as the employeer
>>
>> would lose my job for
>>
>>> firing him! I just love the double-standards in
>>
>> the U.S. today. A guy
>>
>>> can get state funding from the National Endowment
>>
>> of the Arts by putting
>>
>>> a crucifix in a jar of urine and calling it 'art',
>>
>> yet at the same time
>>
>>> people get fired for off-color comments they make
>>
>> on a mailing list?
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