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Posted to dev@clerezza.apache.org by Hasan Hasan <ha...@trialox.org> on 2011/05/12 18:28:21 UTC
may a bundle containing a gpl licensed library be uploaded to the
clerezza svn repo?
Dear Bertrand, all
We are developing a bundle that uses a GPL licensed library. We don't make
any changes or extend the library, but just use it. Would this be a problem
if the clerezza svn repo contains this library or should we remove it from
the bundle before uploading the bundle to the svn repo?
Cheers
Hasan
Re: may a bundle containing a gpl licensed library be uploaded to the
clerezza svn repo?
Posted by Hasan Hasan <ha...@trialox.org>.
Hi Ross
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 18/05/2011 11:56, Hasan Hasan wrote:
>
>> Hi Reto
>>
>> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Reto Bachmann-Gmuer<
>> reto.bachmann@trialox.org> wrote:
>>
>> we have been talking about this before:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-clerezza-dev/201104.mbox/%3CBANLkTikOacmm4fa0C36xWGzWxULPes2WUw@mail.gmail.com%3E
>>> where I ointed you to
>>> http://activemq.apache.org/java-service-wrapper.html
>>>
>>>
>>
>> activemq.apache.org has the binary code of java-service-wrapper library
>> (wrapper.jar) in their binary and source distribution
>>
>> *
>>
>> http://apache.mirror.testserver.li//activemq/apache-activemq/5.5.0/activemq-parent-5.5.0-source-release.zip
>>
>> find wrapper.jar of tanukisoftware in folder
>> activemq-parent-5.5.0\assembly\src\release\bin
>> and
>> activemq-parent-5.5.0\trunk\assembly\src\release\bin
>>
>
> At first glance that does not look to be under an Apache compatible
> licence. See
> http://wrapper.tanukisoftware.com/doc/english/licenseOverview.html
>
> Has this been approved by legal?
>
I don't know whether this has been approved by legal.
hasan
>
> Ross
>
> --
> rgardler@apache.org
> @rgardler
>
Re: may a bundle containing a gpl licensed library be uploaded to
the clerezza svn repo?
Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>.
On 18/05/2011 11:56, Hasan Hasan wrote:
> Hi Reto
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Reto Bachmann-Gmuer<
> reto.bachmann@trialox.org> wrote:
>
>> we have been talking about this before:
>>
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-clerezza-dev/201104.mbox/%3CBANLkTikOacmm4fa0C36xWGzWxULPes2WUw@mail.gmail.com%3E
>> where I ointed you to
>> http://activemq.apache.org/java-service-wrapper.html
>>
>
>
> activemq.apache.org has the binary code of java-service-wrapper library
> (wrapper.jar) in their binary and source distribution
>
> *
> http://apache.mirror.testserver.li//activemq/apache-activemq/5.5.0/activemq-parent-5.5.0-source-release.zip
>
> find wrapper.jar of tanukisoftware in folder
> activemq-parent-5.5.0\assembly\src\release\bin
> and
> activemq-parent-5.5.0\trunk\assembly\src\release\bin
At first glance that does not look to be under an Apache compatible
licence. See
http://wrapper.tanukisoftware.com/doc/english/licenseOverview.html
Has this been approved by legal?
Ross
>
> hasan
>
> *
>
>>
>> Reto
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Daniel Spicar
>> <da...@trialox.org> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> the library is not a runtime dependency. I implemented a "deamonized"
>>> Clerezza Service using "Java Service Wrapper" (JSW). Check issue
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLEREZZA-502 for the project.
>>>
>>> The launcher-wrapper is completely optional. If it is compiled it creates
>> a
>>> JAR that can be used together with JSW libraries and scripts to enable
>>> Clerezza to be run as a service on multiple Platforms. Of course a user
>> can
>>> just download the JSW binaries himself from
>>> http://www.tanukisoftware.organd copy it into the same folder together
>>> with with the Clerezza launcher
>>> and launcher-wrapper JARs to use this functionality.
>>>
>>> To wrap up:
>>> - Clerezza can be built and run without the library in question.
>>> - The service wrapper needs the library and some additional files at
>>> runtime.
>>> - Currently the wrapper projects contains the libraries and the scripts
>> in
>>> the src/resources folder so this is most likely conflicting with the
>> Apache
>>> License. But the reason for this is merely convenience.
>>> - If we can not supply the libraries in question is there some platform
>>> independent solution to make the installation convenient for the user?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Ross Gardler<rg...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is this necessary at build time or an optional runtime?
>>>>
>>>> If a necessary bundle the. You need to find another solution if an
>> optional
>>>> runtime then you can created a Clerezza-extras project over on
>>>> http://apache-extras.org and hits it there.
>>>>
>>>> Ross
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my mobile device (so please excuse typos)
>>>>
>>>> On 12 May 2011, at 17:47, Reto Bachmann-Gmuer<
>> reto.bachmann@trialox.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> no, see http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Reto
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Hasan Hasan<ha...@trialox.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>>> Dear Bertrand, all
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are developing a bundle that uses a GPL licensed library. We don't
>>>> make
>>>>>> any changes or extend the library, but just use it. Would this be a
>>>> problem
>>>>>> if the clerezza svn repo contains this library or should we remove it
>>>> from
>>>>>> the bundle before uploading the bundle to the svn repo?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Hasan
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
--
rgardler@apache.org
@rgardler
Re: may a bundle containing a gpl licensed library be uploaded to the
clerezza svn repo?
Posted by Hasan Hasan <ha...@trialox.org>.
Hi Reto
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Reto Bachmann-Gmuer <
reto.bachmann@trialox.org> wrote:
> we have been talking about this before:
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-clerezza-dev/201104.mbox/%3CBANLkTikOacmm4fa0C36xWGzWxULPes2WUw@mail.gmail.com%3E
> where I ointed you to
> http://activemq.apache.org/java-service-wrapper.html
>
activemq.apache.org has the binary code of java-service-wrapper library
(wrapper.jar) in their binary and source distribution
*
http://apache.mirror.testserver.li//activemq/apache-activemq/5.5.0/activemq-parent-5.5.0-source-release.zip
find wrapper.jar of tanukisoftware in folder
activemq-parent-5.5.0\assembly\src\release\bin
and
activemq-parent-5.5.0\trunk\assembly\src\release\bin
hasan
*
>
> Reto
>
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Daniel Spicar
> <da...@trialox.org> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > the library is not a runtime dependency. I implemented a "deamonized"
> > Clerezza Service using "Java Service Wrapper" (JSW). Check issue
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLEREZZA-502 for the project.
> >
> > The launcher-wrapper is completely optional. If it is compiled it creates
> a
> > JAR that can be used together with JSW libraries and scripts to enable
> > Clerezza to be run as a service on multiple Platforms. Of course a user
> can
> > just download the JSW binaries himself from
> > http://www.tanukisoftware.organd copy it into the same folder together
> > with with the Clerezza launcher
> > and launcher-wrapper JARs to use this functionality.
> >
> > To wrap up:
> > - Clerezza can be built and run without the library in question.
> > - The service wrapper needs the library and some additional files at
> > runtime.
> > - Currently the wrapper projects contains the libraries and the scripts
> in
> > the src/resources folder so this is most likely conflicting with the
> Apache
> > License. But the reason for this is merely convenience.
> > - If we can not supply the libraries in question is there some platform
> > independent solution to make the installation convenient for the user?
> >
> > Best,
> > Daniel
> >
> > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Is this necessary at build time or an optional runtime?
> >>
> >> If a necessary bundle the. You need to find another solution if an
> optional
> >> runtime then you can created a Clerezza-extras project over on
> >> http://apache-extras.org and hits it there.
> >>
> >> Ross
> >>
> >> Sent from my mobile device (so please excuse typos)
> >>
> >> On 12 May 2011, at 17:47, Reto Bachmann-Gmuer <
> reto.bachmann@trialox.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > no, see http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> > Reto
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Hasan Hasan <ha...@trialox.org>
> wrote:
> >> >> Dear Bertrand, all
> >> >>
> >> >> We are developing a bundle that uses a GPL licensed library. We don't
> >> make
> >> >> any changes or extend the library, but just use it. Would this be a
> >> problem
> >> >> if the clerezza svn repo contains this library or should we remove it
> >> from
> >> >> the bundle before uploading the bundle to the svn repo?
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers
> >> >> Hasan
> >> >>
> >>
> >
>
Re: may a bundle containing a gpl licensed library be uploaded to the
clerezza svn repo?
Posted by Daniel Spicar <da...@trialox.org>.
Thanks reto,
last time I have been looking for some other things so I didn't check how
they distribute it. Thanks for the heads up.
Regards
Daniel
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Reto Bachmann-Gmuer <
reto.bachmann@trialox.org> wrote:
> we have been talking about this before:
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-clerezza-dev/201104.mbox/%3CBANLkTikOacmm4fa0C36xWGzWxULPes2WUw@mail.gmail.com%3E
> where I ointed you to
> http://activemq.apache.org/java-service-wrapper.html
>
> Reto
>
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Daniel Spicar
> <da...@trialox.org> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > the library is not a runtime dependency. I implemented a "deamonized"
> > Clerezza Service using "Java Service Wrapper" (JSW). Check issue
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLEREZZA-502 for the project.
> >
> > The launcher-wrapper is completely optional. If it is compiled it creates
> a
> > JAR that can be used together with JSW libraries and scripts to enable
> > Clerezza to be run as a service on multiple Platforms. Of course a user
> can
> > just download the JSW binaries himself from
> > http://www.tanukisoftware.organd copy it into the same folder together
> > with with the Clerezza launcher
> > and launcher-wrapper JARs to use this functionality.
> >
> > To wrap up:
> > - Clerezza can be built and run without the library in question.
> > - The service wrapper needs the library and some additional files at
> > runtime.
> > - Currently the wrapper projects contains the libraries and the scripts
> in
> > the src/resources folder so this is most likely conflicting with the
> Apache
> > License. But the reason for this is merely convenience.
> > - If we can not supply the libraries in question is there some platform
> > independent solution to make the installation convenient for the user?
> >
> > Best,
> > Daniel
> >
> > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Is this necessary at build time or an optional runtime?
> >>
> >> If a necessary bundle the. You need to find another solution if an
> optional
> >> runtime then you can created a Clerezza-extras project over on
> >> http://apache-extras.org and hits it there.
> >>
> >> Ross
> >>
> >> Sent from my mobile device (so please excuse typos)
> >>
> >> On 12 May 2011, at 17:47, Reto Bachmann-Gmuer <
> reto.bachmann@trialox.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > no, see http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> > Reto
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Hasan Hasan <ha...@trialox.org>
> wrote:
> >> >> Dear Bertrand, all
> >> >>
> >> >> We are developing a bundle that uses a GPL licensed library. We don't
> >> make
> >> >> any changes or extend the library, but just use it. Would this be a
> >> problem
> >> >> if the clerezza svn repo contains this library or should we remove it
> >> from
> >> >> the bundle before uploading the bundle to the svn repo?
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers
> >> >> Hasan
> >> >>
> >>
> >
>
Re: may a bundle containing a gpl licensed library be uploaded to the
clerezza svn repo?
Posted by Reto Bachmann-Gmuer <re...@trialox.org>.
we have been talking about this before:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-clerezza-dev/201104.mbox/%3CBANLkTikOacmm4fa0C36xWGzWxULPes2WUw@mail.gmail.com%3E
where I ointed you to
http://activemq.apache.org/java-service-wrapper.html
Reto
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Daniel Spicar
<da...@trialox.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> the library is not a runtime dependency. I implemented a "deamonized"
> Clerezza Service using "Java Service Wrapper" (JSW). Check issue
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLEREZZA-502 for the project.
>
> The launcher-wrapper is completely optional. If it is compiled it creates a
> JAR that can be used together with JSW libraries and scripts to enable
> Clerezza to be run as a service on multiple Platforms. Of course a user can
> just download the JSW binaries himself from
> http://www.tanukisoftware.organd copy it into the same folder together
> with with the Clerezza launcher
> and launcher-wrapper JARs to use this functionality.
>
> To wrap up:
> - Clerezza can be built and run without the library in question.
> - The service wrapper needs the library and some additional files at
> runtime.
> - Currently the wrapper projects contains the libraries and the scripts in
> the src/resources folder so this is most likely conflicting with the Apache
> License. But the reason for this is merely convenience.
> - If we can not supply the libraries in question is there some platform
> independent solution to make the installation convenient for the user?
>
> Best,
> Daniel
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Is this necessary at build time or an optional runtime?
>>
>> If a necessary bundle the. You need to find another solution if an optional
>> runtime then you can created a Clerezza-extras project over on
>> http://apache-extras.org and hits it there.
>>
>> Ross
>>
>> Sent from my mobile device (so please excuse typos)
>>
>> On 12 May 2011, at 17:47, Reto Bachmann-Gmuer <re...@trialox.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > no, see http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Reto
>> >
>> > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Hasan Hasan <ha...@trialox.org> wrote:
>> >> Dear Bertrand, all
>> >>
>> >> We are developing a bundle that uses a GPL licensed library. We don't
>> make
>> >> any changes or extend the library, but just use it. Would this be a
>> problem
>> >> if the clerezza svn repo contains this library or should we remove it
>> from
>> >> the bundle before uploading the bundle to the svn repo?
>> >>
>> >> Cheers
>> >> Hasan
>> >>
>>
>
Re: may a bundle containing a gpl licensed library be uploaded to the
clerezza svn repo?
Posted by Daniel Spicar <da...@trialox.org>.
Hi,
the library is not a runtime dependency. I implemented a "deamonized"
Clerezza Service using "Java Service Wrapper" (JSW). Check issue
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLEREZZA-502 for the project.
The launcher-wrapper is completely optional. If it is compiled it creates a
JAR that can be used together with JSW libraries and scripts to enable
Clerezza to be run as a service on multiple Platforms. Of course a user can
just download the JSW binaries himself from
http://www.tanukisoftware.organd copy it into the same folder together
with with the Clerezza launcher
and launcher-wrapper JARs to use this functionality.
To wrap up:
- Clerezza can be built and run without the library in question.
- The service wrapper needs the library and some additional files at
runtime.
- Currently the wrapper projects contains the libraries and the scripts in
the src/resources folder so this is most likely conflicting with the Apache
License. But the reason for this is merely convenience.
- If we can not supply the libraries in question is there some platform
independent solution to make the installation convenient for the user?
Best,
Daniel
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org> wrote:
> Is this necessary at build time or an optional runtime?
>
> If a necessary bundle the. You need to find another solution if an optional
> runtime then you can created a Clerezza-extras project over on
> http://apache-extras.org and hits it there.
>
> Ross
>
> Sent from my mobile device (so please excuse typos)
>
> On 12 May 2011, at 17:47, Reto Bachmann-Gmuer <re...@trialox.org>
> wrote:
>
> > no, see http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Reto
> >
> > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Hasan Hasan <ha...@trialox.org> wrote:
> >> Dear Bertrand, all
> >>
> >> We are developing a bundle that uses a GPL licensed library. We don't
> make
> >> any changes or extend the library, but just use it. Would this be a
> problem
> >> if the clerezza svn repo contains this library or should we remove it
> from
> >> the bundle before uploading the bundle to the svn repo?
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> Hasan
> >>
>
Re: may a bundle containing a gpl licensed library be uploaded to the clerezza svn repo?
Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>.
Is this necessary at build time or an optional runtime?
If a necessary bundle the. You need to find another solution if an optional runtime then you can created a Clerezza-extras project over on http://apache-extras.org and hits it there.
Ross
Sent from my mobile device (so please excuse typos)
On 12 May 2011, at 17:47, Reto Bachmann-Gmuer <re...@trialox.org> wrote:
> no, see http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html.
>
> Cheers,
> Reto
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Hasan Hasan <ha...@trialox.org> wrote:
>> Dear Bertrand, all
>>
>> We are developing a bundle that uses a GPL licensed library. We don't make
>> any changes or extend the library, but just use it. Would this be a problem
>> if the clerezza svn repo contains this library or should we remove it from
>> the bundle before uploading the bundle to the svn repo?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Hasan
>>
Re: may a bundle containing a gpl licensed library be uploaded to the
clerezza svn repo?
Posted by Reto Bachmann-Gmuer <re...@trialox.org>.
no, see http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html.
Cheers,
Reto
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Hasan Hasan <ha...@trialox.org> wrote:
> Dear Bertrand, all
>
> We are developing a bundle that uses a GPL licensed library. We don't make
> any changes or extend the library, but just use it. Would this be a problem
> if the clerezza svn repo contains this library or should we remove it from
> the bundle before uploading the bundle to the svn repo?
>
> Cheers
> Hasan
>