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Posted to dev@flex.apache.org by Om <bi...@gmail.com> on 2013/01/18 06:28:16 UTC
Apache Flex download statistics
Currently, there is a page maintained by an Apache volunteer that tracks
downloads across various projects [1] But it looks like Flex is not being
tracked yet.
Alternatively, I can create a Google Analytics account (free) for Apache
Flex and we can track not only download statistics, but other statistics as
well. What do folks think about this idea?
Thanks,
Om
[1] http://people.apache.org/~vgritsenko/index.html
Re: Apache Flex download statistics
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
HI,
> Also, the ASF is a US corporation, so EU directives might not be
> relevant to our websites (IANAL etc - just trying common sense ;-)
My understanding the directive can applied to sites not hosted in the EU but again there's debate on that. IMO having a privacy policy (and a means to opt out) should hopefully cover all bases. Law and common sense are often strangers. :-)
Justin
Re: Apache Flex download statistics
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 2:44 AM, Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com> wrote:
> ...I'm certainly not a lawyer but after thinking about the EU ePrivacy directive I though it would be enough to just have a privacy policy...
Also, the ASF is a US corporation, so EU directives might not be
relevant to our websites (IANAL etc - just trying common sense ;-)
-Bertrand
Re: Apache Flex download statistics
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
I'm certainly not a lawyer but after thinking about the EU ePrivacy directive I though it would be enough to just have a privacy policy and explicitly state we use google analytics as we're only collecting anonymous data. There does seem to be a number of differing opinions out there regarding this.
Thanks,
Justin
Re: Apache Flex download statistics
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
To cover all bases on the privacy page I'd also include a link to the opt out plug in:
https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout
We may also note down/do something re the newish EU cookie law/ePrivacy directive ie explicitly allow people to opt out.
Thanks,
Justin
Re: Apache Flex download statistics
Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 1:05 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacretaz@apache.org
> wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > ...Who should I ask if this it is okay for us to embed GA scripts on the
> site?...
>
> Using Google Analytics is ok if the PMC agrees to do that but the site
> needs to make this explicit, stats need IMO to be shared with the PMC
> (not sure if google terms allow the project to make them public, I
> remember seeing discussions about that) and the analytics account
> credentials must be shared with the PMC (for example under
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/pmc/ )
>
> http://jackrabbit.apache.org/privacy-policy.html is a good example of
> making analytics explicit on the project website.
>
> -Bertrand
>
Thanks Bertrand! I will start a [VOTE] thread soon.
Nick,
It looks like we have an answer. I have created a JIRA ticket to track
this issue [1] Do you want me to create a Google Analytics account and set
it up for you? Please let me know how I can help with integrating it into
our website.
Thanks,
Om
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33361
Re: Apache Flex download statistics
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...Who should I ask if this it is okay for us to embed GA scripts on the site?...
Using Google Analytics is ok if the PMC agrees to do that but the site
needs to make this explicit, stats need IMO to be shared with the PMC
(not sure if google terms allow the project to make them public, I
remember seeing discussions about that) and the analytics account
credentials must be shared with the PMC (for example under
https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/pmc/ )
http://jackrabbit.apache.org/privacy-policy.html is a good example of
making analytics explicit on the project website.
-Bertrand
Re: Apache Flex download statistics
Posted by Nicholas Kwiatkowski <ni...@spoon.as>.
If somebody wants to ask the higher-ups at Apache if this is ok, I can put
it in the new site.
Sorry I haven't been around this last week -- we had two major issues at
work that made me work a few 24 hour shifts, then I was out of the count
with migraines (image that!) for the latter half of the week.
-Nick
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:00 AM, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 17, 2013 10:18 PM, "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/17/13 9:56 PM, "Justin Mclean" <ju...@classsoftware.com> wrote:
> >
> > > HI,
> > >
> > >> Alternatively, I can create a Google Analytics account (free) for
> Apache
> > >> Flex and we can track not only download statistics, but other
> statistics as
> > >> well. What do folks think about this idea?
> > >
> > > Not sure we can track all downloads due to the way it's mirrored.
> > We can never know exactly (downloads can get aborted, etc), but the count
> on
> > the md5 will give us some idea. I'm all for analytics as long as it is
> ok
> > with Apache.
> >
> > >
> > > Justin
> >
> > --
> > Alex Harui
> > Flex SDK Team
> > Adobe Systems, Inc.
> > http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> >
>
> We can find out how many times the download link was clicked from our
> downloads page. And we can find out how many times the installer downloaded
> the binaries.
>
> That should give us a pretty decent estimate on the number of downloads.
>
> Nick, does the setup you have in the new website have a GA plugin that we
> could use?
>
> Who should I ask if this it is okay for us to embed GA scripts on the site?
>
> Thanks,
> Om
>
Re: Apache Flex download statistics
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
If you need precedence CouchDB uses google analytics - but only for the web site not the download page (which is on th wiki).
http://couchdb.apache.org
Justin
Re: Apache Flex download statistics
Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Jan 17, 2013 10:18 PM, "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> On 1/17/13 9:56 PM, "Justin Mclean" <ju...@classsoftware.com> wrote:
>
> > HI,
> >
> >> Alternatively, I can create a Google Analytics account (free) for
Apache
> >> Flex and we can track not only download statistics, but other
statistics as
> >> well. What do folks think about this idea?
> >
> > Not sure we can track all downloads due to the way it's mirrored.
> We can never know exactly (downloads can get aborted, etc), but the count
on
> the md5 will give us some idea. I'm all for analytics as long as it is ok
> with Apache.
>
> >
> > Justin
>
> --
> Alex Harui
> Flex SDK Team
> Adobe Systems, Inc.
> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>
We can find out how many times the download link was clicked from our
downloads page. And we can find out how many times the installer downloaded
the binaries.
That should give us a pretty decent estimate on the number of downloads.
Nick, does the setup you have in the new website have a GA plugin that we
could use?
Who should I ask if this it is okay for us to embed GA scripts on the site?
Thanks,
Om
Re: Apache Flex download statistics
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
On 1/17/13 9:56 PM, "Justin Mclean" <ju...@classsoftware.com> wrote:
> HI,
>
>> Alternatively, I can create a Google Analytics account (free) for Apache
>> Flex and we can track not only download statistics, but other statistics as
>> well. What do folks think about this idea?
>
> Not sure we can track all downloads due to the way it's mirrored.
We can never know exactly (downloads can get aborted, etc), but the count on
the md5 will give us some idea. I'm all for analytics as long as it is ok
with Apache.
>
> Justin
--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
Re: Apache Flex download statistics
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
HI,
> Alternatively, I can create a Google Analytics account (free) for Apache
> Flex and we can track not only download statistics, but other statistics as
> well. What do folks think about this idea?
Not sure we can track all downloads due to the way it's mirrored.
Justin