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[VOTE] Release JAMES Server 3.0-M1

Hi all,

I'm very happy to start a VOTE for the first milestone of the
upcomming major version of JAMES Server (3.0). This milestone include
tones of improvements,features and bugfixes.

I think one of the most important things for "normal" users is the
support of IMAP and the new fastfail stuff in SMTP.  To get a complete
list see:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10411&styleName=Html&version=12314294

Here are the artifacts for review:
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachejames-001/

So please cast your VOTE:

[  ] +1 Yes please release
[  ] +0 No time to review
[  ] -1 No the code is not ready yet.

Thx,
Norman

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Re: [VOTE] Release JAMES Server 3.0-M1

Posted by Dhrubo <dh...@gmail.com>.
+1
Kind Regards... Dhrubo


On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm very happy to start a VOTE for the first milestone of the
> upcomming major version of JAMES Server (3.0). This milestone include
> tones of improvements,features and bugfixes.
>
> I think one of the most important things for "normal" users is the
> support of IMAP and the new fastfail stuff in SMTP.  To get a complete
> list see:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10411&styleName=Html&version=12314294
>
> Here are the artifacts for review:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachejames-001/
>
> So please cast your VOTE:
>
> [  ] +1 Yes please release
> [  ] +0 No time to review
> [  ] -1 No the code is not ready yet.
>
> Thx,
> Norman
>
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Re: [VOTE] Release JAMES Server 3.0-M1

Posted by Eric Charles <er...@apache.org>.
[x] +1 Yes please release

Yeah,
Eric

On 26/10/2010 18:26, Norman Maurer wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm very happy to start a VOTE for the first milestone of the
> upcomming major version of JAMES Server (3.0). This milestone include
> tones of improvements,features and bugfixes.
>
> I think one of the most important things for "normal" users is the
> support of IMAP and the new fastfail stuff in SMTP.  To get a complete
> list see:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10411&styleName=Html&version=12314294
>
> Here are the artifacts for review:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachejames-001/
>
> So please cast your VOTE:
>
> [  ] +1 Yes please release
> [  ] +0 No time to review
> [  ] -1 No the code is not ready yet.
>
> Thx,
> Norman
>
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[RESULT] [VOTE] Release JAMES Server 3.0-M1

Posted by Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org>.
Hi folks,

the VOTE for the first milestone of JAMES Sever 3.0 passed. Here is the result:

+1 Eric*, Stefano*, Dhrubo, Tim, Bernd, Norman*
+0
-1

* Binding

I will now upload the release to the mirrors and cordinate with Eric
to get them on the download page.

Thanks again to everyone for review and VOTE.

Bye,
Norman


2010/10/26 Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org>:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm very happy to start a VOTE for the first milestone of the
> upcomming major version of JAMES Server (3.0). This milestone include
> tones of improvements,features and bugfixes.
>
> I think one of the most important things for "normal" users is the
> support of IMAP and the new fastfail stuff in SMTP.  To get a complete
> list see:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10411&styleName=Html&version=12314294
>
> Here are the artifacts for review:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachejames-001/
>
> So please cast your VOTE:
>
> [  ] +1 Yes please release
> [  ] +0 No time to review
> [  ] -1 No the code is not ready yet.
>
> Thx,
> Norman
>

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Re: [VOTE] Release JAMES Server 3.0-M1

Posted by Tim-Christian Mundt <de...@tim-erwin.de>.
James is really pressing forward...
> [x] +1 Yes please release

Tim

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Re: [VOTE] Release JAMES Server 3.0-M1

Posted by Bernd Fondermann <be...@googlemail.com>.
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 18:26, Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm very happy to start a VOTE for the first milestone of the
> upcomming major version of JAMES Server (3.0). This milestone include
> tones of improvements,features and bugfixes.
>
> I think one of the most important things for "normal" users is the
> support of IMAP and the new fastfail stuff in SMTP.  To get a complete
> list see:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10411&styleName=Html&version=12314294
>
> Here are the artifacts for review:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachejames-001/
>
> So please cast your VOTE:
>
[X] +1 Yes please release (non-binding)

  Bernd

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Re: [VOTE] Release JAMES Server 3.0-M1

Posted by Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org>.
[ x ] +1 Yes please release

Bye,
Norman

2010/10/26 Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org>:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm very happy to start a VOTE for the first milestone of the
> upcomming major version of JAMES Server (3.0). This milestone include
> tones of improvements,features and bugfixes.
>
> I think one of the most important things for "normal" users is the
> support of IMAP and the new fastfail stuff in SMTP.  To get a complete
> list see:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10411&styleName=Html&version=12314294
>
> Here are the artifacts for review:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachejames-001/
>
> So please cast your VOTE:
>
> [  ] +1 Yes please release
> [  ] +0 No time to review
> [  ] -1 No the code is not ready yet.
>
> Thx,
> Norman
>

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Re: [VOTE] Release JAMES Server 3.0-M1

Posted by Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org>.
Hi,

I will close the VOTE on Saturday 30.10.2010 09:00 CEST.

Thx,
Norman


2010/10/26 Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org>:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm very happy to start a VOTE for the first milestone of the
> upcomming major version of JAMES Server (3.0). This milestone include
> tones of improvements,features and bugfixes.
>
> I think one of the most important things for "normal" users is the
> support of IMAP and the new fastfail stuff in SMTP.  To get a complete
> list see:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10411&styleName=Html&version=12314294
>
> Here are the artifacts for review:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachejames-001/
>
> So please cast your VOTE:
>
> [  ] +1 Yes please release
> [  ] +0 No time to review
> [  ] -1 No the code is not ready yet.
>
> Thx,
> Norman
>

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Re: [VOTE] Release JAMES Server 3.0-M1

Posted by Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org>.
I will have a look howto fix this. I think I had this problem before
in jsieve and fixed it.

Thx,
Norman


2010/10/27 Stefano Bagnara <ap...@bago.org>:
>> Few points/questions/hints for M2:
>
> 7) The maven release created 2 source releases.
> james-server-container-spring-3.0-M1-src.zip and
> james-server-3.0-M1-source-release.zip. They are very similar, the
> first includes some "derby.log" files in the jdbc/jpa modules, the
> second instead have maven DEPENDENCIES/LICENSE/NOTICE files. I think
> we need just one of the 2 in M2.
>
> Stefano
>
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Re: [VOTE] Release JAMES Server 3.0-M1

Posted by Stefano Bagnara <ap...@bago.org>.
> Few points/questions/hints for M2:

7) The maven release created 2 source releases.
james-server-container-spring-3.0-M1-src.zip and
james-server-3.0-M1-source-release.zip. They are very similar, the
first includes some "derby.log" files in the jdbc/jpa modules, the
second instead have maven DEPENDENCIES/LICENSE/NOTICE files. I think
we need just one of the 2 in M2.

Stefano

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Re: [VOTE] Release JAMES Server 3.0-M1

Posted by Eric Charles <er...@apache.org>.
Hi All,

I note the topics to be discussed around doc and packaging:
- Default conf, maybe more than one depending on user profile (small 
server,...) and techno (file mailserver, database mailserver,...)
- Custom conf : how can users easily change the confs
- Migration: the MIGRATE.txt should simply contain the URL of the page 
where the migration is described. This page will be the usermanual of 
coming migration tool (JAMES-1052 and JAMES-1090)

We certainly cover these reviewing the web site.

The issue with jmx.password on windows is new (3 days old since jmx 
security is activated).
Sure, it will be documented on website, but I wonder if this will not 
represent a *real blocking factor for james.* User will directly say: 
"it does not work!" and will not try to solve issue, even if it's 
documented.

Tks,

Eric



On 27/10/2010 07:25, Norman Maurer wrote:
> Hi Stefano,
>
> comments inside..
>
> 2010/10/27 Stefano Bagnara<ap...@bago.org>:
>> 2010/10/26 Norman Maurer<no...@apache.org>:
>>> I'm very happy to start a VOTE for the first milestone of the
>>> upcomming major version of JAMES Server (3.0). This milestone include
>>> tones of improvements,features and bugfixes.
>> That's great! :-)
>>
>>> I think one of the most important things for "normal" users is the
>>> support of IMAP and the new fastfail stuff in SMTP.  To get a complete
>>> list see:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10411&styleName=Html&version=12314294
>>>
>>> Here are the artifacts for review:
>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachejames-001/
>>>
>>> So please cast your VOTE:
>> [X] +1 Yes please release
>>
>> Few points/questions/hints for M2:
>>
>> 1) running it under windows says:
>> "Errore: Limitare l'accesso in lettura al file password: ../conf/jmx.password"
>> (Trans: error: you have to limit read access to password file:
>> ../conf/jmx.password). It's not clear what I have to do to limit this
>> access and whom to limit access to.
> Welcome to windows ;) When running JAMES on a unix-like platform you
> don't see this error as the configuration files come with perms 0600.
> Anyway its documented in the JMX docs.
>
> See: http://download.oracle.com/javase/1.5.0/docs/guide/management/security-windows.html
>
> I already talked with Eric and he will add it to the website.
>
>> 2) in a future version I'd like to see some dependency removed from
>> the binary release (e.g: pdfbox-1.0.0.jar is 4.6MB and I believe it's
>> not really used but only transitively inherited by jackrabbit).
> Makes sense, pdfbox is only needed to index pdf files in jackrabbit.
> So no need to ship it with JAMES. I will open a jira for it.
>
>> 3) we now have a lot of implementations for each api. Even to me (long
>> time james user/developer) it's now not obvious what are the default
>> or the preferred implementations and their status. Maybe we should
>> provide a small table indicating defaults and pro/cons of the various
>> implementations when it's not obvious.
>> It's not clear what is the best setup for users that only needs a
>> small mail server with no database, or what is suggested to users that
>> wants to set up a cluster with no "file" state in the nodes, and
>> similar "standard" things.
> +1 Something for the website. Eric ? ;)
>
>> 4) in the source distribution we have the STATUS file: IMHO this
>> should be removed from there and from SVN. It was a failed experiment.
> +1 will do.
>
>> 5) MIGRATE.txt is outdated. It's better to remove it that to have it
>> documenting a bad migration path.
> +1 We will have to write one when the api is stable.
>
>> 6) In James 2.3 we had a README.txt with some docs, and with the
>> Crypto Notice. I guess at least Crypto Notice should be revamped.
> Will have a look for M2 or whatever the next release will get called.
>
>> Stefano
>>
> Bye,
> Norman
>
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Re: [VOTE] Release JAMES Server 3.0-M1

Posted by Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org>.
Hi Stefano,

comments inside..

2010/10/27 Stefano Bagnara <ap...@bago.org>:
> 2010/10/26 Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org>:
>> I'm very happy to start a VOTE for the first milestone of the
>> upcomming major version of JAMES Server (3.0). This milestone include
>> tones of improvements,features and bugfixes.
>
> That's great! :-)
>
>> I think one of the most important things for "normal" users is the
>> support of IMAP and the new fastfail stuff in SMTP.  To get a complete
>> list see:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10411&styleName=Html&version=12314294
>>
>> Here are the artifacts for review:
>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachejames-001/
>>
>> So please cast your VOTE:
>
> [X] +1 Yes please release
>
> Few points/questions/hints for M2:
>
> 1) running it under windows says:
> "Errore: Limitare l'accesso in lettura al file password: ../conf/jmx.password"
> (Trans: error: you have to limit read access to password file:
> ../conf/jmx.password). It's not clear what I have to do to limit this
> access and whom to limit access to.

Welcome to windows ;) When running JAMES on a unix-like platform you
don't see this error as the configuration files come with perms 0600.
Anyway its documented in the JMX docs.

See: http://download.oracle.com/javase/1.5.0/docs/guide/management/security-windows.html

I already talked with Eric and he will add it to the website.

>
> 2) in a future version I'd like to see some dependency removed from
> the binary release (e.g: pdfbox-1.0.0.jar is 4.6MB and I believe it's
> not really used but only transitively inherited by jackrabbit).

Makes sense, pdfbox is only needed to index pdf files in jackrabbit.
So no need to ship it with JAMES. I will open a jira for it.

>
> 3) we now have a lot of implementations for each api. Even to me (long
> time james user/developer) it's now not obvious what are the default
> or the preferred implementations and their status. Maybe we should
> provide a small table indicating defaults and pro/cons of the various
> implementations when it's not obvious.
> It's not clear what is the best setup for users that only needs a
> small mail server with no database, or what is suggested to users that
> wants to set up a cluster with no "file" state in the nodes, and
> similar "standard" things.

+1 Something for the website. Eric ? ;)

>
> 4) in the source distribution we have the STATUS file: IMHO this
> should be removed from there and from SVN. It was a failed experiment.

+1 will do.

>
> 5) MIGRATE.txt is outdated. It's better to remove it that to have it
> documenting a bad migration path.

+1 We will have to write one when the api is stable.

> 6) In James 2.3 we had a README.txt with some docs, and with the
> Crypto Notice. I guess at least Crypto Notice should be revamped.

Will have a look for M2 or whatever the next release will get called.

> Stefano
>

Bye,
Norman

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Re: [VOTE] Release JAMES Server 3.0-M1

Posted by Stefano Bagnara <ap...@bago.org>.
2010/10/26 Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org>:
> I'm very happy to start a VOTE for the first milestone of the
> upcomming major version of JAMES Server (3.0). This milestone include
> tones of improvements,features and bugfixes.

That's great! :-)

> I think one of the most important things for "normal" users is the
> support of IMAP and the new fastfail stuff in SMTP.  To get a complete
> list see:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10411&styleName=Html&version=12314294
>
> Here are the artifacts for review:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachejames-001/
>
> So please cast your VOTE:

[X] +1 Yes please release

Few points/questions/hints for M2:

1) running it under windows says:
"Errore: Limitare l'accesso in lettura al file password: ../conf/jmx.password"
(Trans: error: you have to limit read access to password file:
../conf/jmx.password). It's not clear what I have to do to limit this
access and whom to limit access to.

2) in a future version I'd like to see some dependency removed from
the binary release (e.g: pdfbox-1.0.0.jar is 4.6MB and I believe it's
not really used but only transitively inherited by jackrabbit).

3) we now have a lot of implementations for each api. Even to me (long
time james user/developer) it's now not obvious what are the default
or the preferred implementations and their status. Maybe we should
provide a small table indicating defaults and pro/cons of the various
implementations when it's not obvious.
It's not clear what is the best setup for users that only needs a
small mail server with no database, or what is suggested to users that
wants to set up a cluster with no "file" state in the nodes, and
similar "standard" things.

4) in the source distribution we have the STATUS file: IMHO this
should be removed from there and from SVN. It was a failed experiment.

5) MIGRATE.txt is outdated. It's better to remove it that to have it
documenting a bad migration path.

6) In James 2.3 we had a README.txt with some docs, and with the
Crypto Notice. I guess at least Crypto Notice should be revamped.

Stefano

Stefano

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