Default template - size

[Shazron <sh...@gmail.com>]

When someone creates a vanilla iOS project from the CLI, the default app is
8 MB. It's obvious why this is so, the www/res folder includes all the
icons for all the platforms and is 8 MB.

Can we change this (why include all icons -- the www should be agnostic),
or is this a documentation problem.

Re: Default template - size

[Axel Nennker <ig...@gmail.com>]

I think that my questions go away when www/config.xml moves to config.xml.
You have looked at the initial code and commented on it. Anything new on
the current code?
I will change the code tomorrow so that SRC becomes relatively to
project-dir and remove the re/icon logic.

Axel
On Jan 3, 2014 10:13 PM, "Andrew Grieve" <ag...@chromium.org> wrote:

> As long as they can specify the path to their icons, I think they can put
> them wherever they want.
>
> What input are you looking for?
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Axel Nennker <ig...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I suggest to move the icons to <project_root>/res/icons/<platform> and
> copy
> > them from there to the platform www. Although this has several drawbacks:
> >
> > - testing the UI in a browser by opening www/index.html might surprise
> some
> > developers because they use the icons not only to represent the app but
> > also in the UI.
> > - Some might expect the icon to be relative to config.xml. "<icon
> > src='icon.png' /> looks like icon.png is next to config.xml
> > - Sharing icons between platforms become irksome (soft links?)
> > - Maybe cordova should search in several places? www/icon.png and
> > res/icon/icon.png and res/icon/<platform>/icon.png (in this order?)
> >
> > I started to work on CB-2606
> >
> >
> https://github.com/AxelNennker/cordova-cli/blob/master/src/metadata/android_parser.js#L75
> > but need input from this group how to implement this.
> >
> > -Axel
> >
> >
> >
> > 2013/10/22 Wargo, John <jo...@sap.com>
> >
> > > I brought this up with fil a while back and it's a documented issue in
> > > jira.  He said config.xml had to be fixed to support different platform
> > > icons before something could be done about this.  I can dig up the
> email
> > > and forward it off tomorrow.
> > >
> > > John M. Wargo
> > >
> > > > On Oct 18, 2013, at 3:01 PM, "Steven Gill" <st...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > They should be in the merge folder under each platform instead of the
> > > www.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> When someone creates a vanilla iOS project from the CLI, the default
> > > app is
> > > >> 8 MB. It's obvious why this is so, the www/res folder includes all
> the
> > > >> icons for all the platforms and is 8 MB.
> > > >>
> > > >> Can we change this (why include all icons -- the www should be
> > > agnostic),
> > > >> or is this a documentation problem.
> > > >>
> > >
> >
>

Re: Default template - size

[Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>]

As long as they can specify the path to their icons, I think they can put
them wherever they want.

What input are you looking for?


On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Axel Nennker <ig...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I suggest to move the icons to <project_root>/res/icons/<platform> and copy
> them from there to the platform www. Although this has several drawbacks:
>
> - testing the UI in a browser by opening www/index.html might surprise some
> developers because they use the icons not only to represent the app but
> also in the UI.
> - Some might expect the icon to be relative to config.xml. "<icon
> src='icon.png' /> looks like icon.png is next to config.xml
> - Sharing icons between platforms become irksome (soft links?)
> - Maybe cordova should search in several places? www/icon.png and
> res/icon/icon.png and res/icon/<platform>/icon.png (in this order?)
>
> I started to work on CB-2606
>
> https://github.com/AxelNennker/cordova-cli/blob/master/src/metadata/android_parser.js#L75
> but need input from this group how to implement this.
>
> -Axel
>
>
>
> 2013/10/22 Wargo, John <jo...@sap.com>
>
> > I brought this up with fil a while back and it's a documented issue in
> > jira.  He said config.xml had to be fixed to support different platform
> > icons before something could be done about this.  I can dig up the email
> > and forward it off tomorrow.
> >
> > John M. Wargo
> >
> > > On Oct 18, 2013, at 3:01 PM, "Steven Gill" <st...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > They should be in the merge folder under each platform instead of the
> > www.
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> When someone creates a vanilla iOS project from the CLI, the default
> > app is
> > >> 8 MB. It's obvious why this is so, the www/res folder includes all the
> > >> icons for all the platforms and is 8 MB.
> > >>
> > >> Can we change this (why include all icons -- the www should be
> > agnostic),
> > >> or is this a documentation problem.
> > >>
> >
>

Re: Default template - size

[Axel Nennker <ig...@gmail.com>]

I suggest to move the icons to <project_root>/res/icons/<platform> and copy
them from there to the platform www. Although this has several drawbacks:

- testing the UI in a browser by opening www/index.html might surprise some
developers because they use the icons not only to represent the app but
also in the UI.
- Some might expect the icon to be relative to config.xml. "<icon
src='icon.png' /> looks like icon.png is next to config.xml
- Sharing icons between platforms become irksome (soft links?)
- Maybe cordova should search in several places? www/icon.png and
res/icon/icon.png and res/icon/<platform>/icon.png (in this order?)

I started to work on CB-2606
https://github.com/AxelNennker/cordova-cli/blob/master/src/metadata/android_parser.js#L75
but need input from this group how to implement this.

-Axel



2013/10/22 Wargo, John <jo...@sap.com>

> I brought this up with fil a while back and it's a documented issue in
> jira.  He said config.xml had to be fixed to support different platform
> icons before something could be done about this.  I can dig up the email
> and forward it off tomorrow.
>
> John M. Wargo
>
> > On Oct 18, 2013, at 3:01 PM, "Steven Gill" <st...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > They should be in the merge folder under each platform instead of the
> www.
> >
> >
> >> On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> When someone creates a vanilla iOS project from the CLI, the default
> app is
> >> 8 MB. It's obvious why this is so, the www/res folder includes all the
> >> icons for all the platforms and is 8 MB.
> >>
> >> Can we change this (why include all icons -- the www should be
> agnostic),
> >> or is this a documentation problem.
> >>
>

Re: Default template - size

["Wargo, John" <jo...@sap.com>]

I brought this up with fil a while back and it's a documented issue in jira.  He said config.xml had to be fixed to support different platform icons before something could be done about this.  I can dig up the email and forward it off tomorrow.  

John M. Wargo

> On Oct 18, 2013, at 3:01 PM, "Steven Gill" <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> They should be in the merge folder under each platform instead of the www.
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> When someone creates a vanilla iOS project from the CLI, the default app is
>> 8 MB. It's obvious why this is so, the www/res folder includes all the
>> icons for all the platforms and is 8 MB.
>> 
>> Can we change this (why include all icons -- the www should be agnostic),
>> or is this a documentation problem.
>> 

Re: Default template - size

[Steven Gill <st...@gmail.com>]

They should be in the merge folder under each platform instead of the www.


On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> When someone creates a vanilla iOS project from the CLI, the default app is
> 8 MB. It's obvious why this is so, the www/res folder includes all the
> icons for all the platforms and is 8 MB.
>
> Can we change this (why include all icons -- the www should be agnostic),
> or is this a documentation problem.
>

Re: Default template - size

[Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>]

I thought it used to be in the README.md (or somewhere else?), but I don't
think the res/ directory is meant to be included at all. When updating the
template, you're supposed to take the platform-specific things out of there
and put them in the right spot (splash screen and icon). They aren't needed
at all by the actually run-time.


On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:

> ya merges
>
> also think we should redo that app to something more sane and tiny
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Didn't think about merges -- +1 merges for moi
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Also, the images we use are ridiculous large considering we want people
> > to
> > > replace them.
> > >
> > > @purplecabbage
> > > risingj.com
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > +1 to merges/
> > > >
> > > > I don't mind the 8megs shipped with the default helloworld, but it
> > should
> > > > not be copied into platform's www for sure.
> > > >
> > > > -Michal
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Ian Clelland <
> iclelland@chromium.org
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'd love to have this fixed as part of CB-2606; There's a lot we
> > could
> > > do
> > > > > to make icons and splashscreens better.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > When someone creates a vanilla iOS project from the CLI, the
> > default
> > > > app
> > > > > is
> > > > > > 8 MB. It's obvious why this is so, the www/res folder includes
> all
> > > the
> > > > > > icons for all the platforms and is 8 MB.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can we change this (why include all icons -- the www should be
> > > > agnostic),
> > > > > > or is this a documentation problem.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Default template - size

[Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>]

ya merges

also think we should redo that app to something more sane and tiny


On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Didn't think about merges -- +1 merges for moi
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Also, the images we use are ridiculous large considering we want people
> to
> > replace them.
> >
> > @purplecabbage
> > risingj.com
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > +1 to merges/
> > >
> > > I don't mind the 8megs shipped with the default helloworld, but it
> should
> > > not be copied into platform's www for sure.
> > >
> > > -Michal
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Ian Clelland <iclelland@chromium.org
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'd love to have this fixed as part of CB-2606; There's a lot we
> could
> > do
> > > > to make icons and splashscreens better.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > When someone creates a vanilla iOS project from the CLI, the
> default
> > > app
> > > > is
> > > > > 8 MB. It's obvious why this is so, the www/res folder includes all
> > the
> > > > > icons for all the platforms and is 8 MB.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can we change this (why include all icons -- the www should be
> > > agnostic),
> > > > > or is this a documentation problem.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Default template - size

[Shazron <sh...@gmail.com>]

Didn't think about merges -- +1 merges for moi


On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Also, the images we use are ridiculous large considering we want people to
> replace them.
>
> @purplecabbage
> risingj.com
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>
> wrote:
>
> > +1 to merges/
> >
> > I don't mind the 8megs shipped with the default helloworld, but it should
> > not be copied into platform's www for sure.
> >
> > -Michal
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Ian Clelland <iclelland@chromium.org
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > I'd love to have this fixed as part of CB-2606; There's a lot we could
> do
> > > to make icons and splashscreens better.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > When someone creates a vanilla iOS project from the CLI, the default
> > app
> > > is
> > > > 8 MB. It's obvious why this is so, the www/res folder includes all
> the
> > > > icons for all the platforms and is 8 MB.
> > > >
> > > > Can we change this (why include all icons -- the www should be
> > agnostic),
> > > > or is this a documentation problem.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Default template - size

[Jesse <pu...@gmail.com>]

Also, the images we use are ridiculous large considering we want people to
replace them.

@purplecabbage
risingj.com


On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org> wrote:

> +1 to merges/
>
> I don't mind the 8megs shipped with the default helloworld, but it should
> not be copied into platform's www for sure.
>
> -Michal
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Ian Clelland <iclelland@chromium.org
> >wrote:
>
> > I'd love to have this fixed as part of CB-2606; There's a lot we could do
> > to make icons and splashscreens better.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > When someone creates a vanilla iOS project from the CLI, the default
> app
> > is
> > > 8 MB. It's obvious why this is so, the www/res folder includes all the
> > > icons for all the platforms and is 8 MB.
> > >
> > > Can we change this (why include all icons -- the www should be
> agnostic),
> > > or is this a documentation problem.
> > >
> >
>

Re: Default template - size

[Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>]

+1 to merges/

I don't mind the 8megs shipped with the default helloworld, but it should
not be copied into platform's www for sure.

-Michal


On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Ian Clelland <ic...@chromium.org>wrote:

> I'd love to have this fixed as part of CB-2606; There's a lot we could do
> to make icons and splashscreens better.
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > When someone creates a vanilla iOS project from the CLI, the default app
> is
> > 8 MB. It's obvious why this is so, the www/res folder includes all the
> > icons for all the platforms and is 8 MB.
> >
> > Can we change this (why include all icons -- the www should be agnostic),
> > or is this a documentation problem.
> >
>

Re: Default template - size

[Ian Clelland <ic...@chromium.org>]

I'd love to have this fixed as part of CB-2606; There's a lot we could do
to make icons and splashscreens better.


On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> When someone creates a vanilla iOS project from the CLI, the default app is
> 8 MB. It's obvious why this is so, the www/res folder includes all the
> icons for all the platforms and is 8 MB.
>
> Can we change this (why include all icons -- the www should be agnostic),
> or is this a documentation problem.
>