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Posted to users@cloudstack.apache.org by Tilak Raj Singh <ti...@gmail.com> on 2014/12/06 08:08:57 UTC
Desktop as a service
Hello Everybody,
I am new to cloudstack so I dont know if I am going off the topic here. I
wished to know how to setup Virtual Desktop Interface (VDI) using
cloudstack. I browsed the net and found that openstack has the capabilities
to setup this feature. Does cloudstack can be used to deploy such a
service? If yes some links for the same would be highly appreciated. Also
if cloudstack does not have that capability then is there some alternative
to this?
Another thing I wanted to know is how to instantiate virtual machines
automatically if the load is increased. Have read about load balancing and
I guess its regarding this only.
The architecture I wish to setup is to provide VDI to several users on
demand via browsers, where the compute is done on the virtual machines. Now
when suppose 10 users are simultaneously using this Virtual Desktop the
load on the VM increases so cloudstanck spawns another VM to share the load
of these 10 users to 5 each on these two VMs created. I hope my doubt is
clear.
Regards
Re: Desktop as a service
Posted by John Kinsella <jl...@stratosec.co>.
I don’t know of a good OSS alternative to XenDesktop. From what I’ve seen on Cantivo’s site, no source was released and what was released hasn’t had an update in a few years. VCL I think of more for lab management than virtualized desktop orchestration. Spice itself looks like it has potential, but i haven’t looked deep enough to see how ready-to-go it is, maybe somebody else can chime in. I’m not aware of anybody working on Spice/ACS integration, yet.
John
> On Dec 9, 2014, at 11:37 AM, Tilak Raj Singh <ti...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello John,
>
> Thanks for your reply. Have looked at XenDesktop but I am looking for some
> open source alternative to this..Is there something else available for such
> tasks which can be used for both windows and Linux...
> I found a few alternatives like spice (http://www.spice-space.org/), apache
> VCL (http://vcl.apache.org/) and cantivo (http://cantivo.org/)
> I wished to know if any of these an be used with cloudstack? If yes then
> can someone please guide me how to do that?
>
> Regards
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:43 AM, John Kinsella <jl...@stratosec.co> wrote:
>
>>
>>> On Dec 5, 2014, at 11:08 PM, Tilak Raj Singh <ti...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Everybody,
>>>
>>> I am new to cloudstack so I dont know if I am going off the topic here. I
>>> wished to know how to setup Virtual Desktop Interface (VDI) using
>>> cloudstack. I browsed the net and found that openstack has the
>> capabilities
>>> to setup this feature. Does cloudstack can be used to deploy such a
>>> service? If yes some links for the same would be highly appreciated. Also
>>> if cloudstack does not have that capability then is there some
>> alternative
>>> to this?
>>
>> Hi and welcome! CloudStack can be used with Citrix XenDesktop and XenApp
>> to provide VDI services for users. It’s covered in the XenDesktop
>> install/setup docs (just replace CloudPlatform with CloudStack)
>>
>>> Another thing I wanted to know is how to instantiate virtual machines
>>> automatically if the load is increased. Have read about load balancing
>> and
>>> I guess its regarding this only.
>>
>> If you mean for VDI, XenDesktop can manage this once connected to
>> CloudStack. If you mean outside of that setup, the phrase you’re looking
>> for is “autoscaling.” Currently it works with either NetScaler load
>> balancers or XenServer virtualization.
>>
>>> The architecture I wish to setup is to provide VDI to several users on
>>> demand via browsers, where the compute is done on the virtual machines.
>> Now
>>> when suppose 10 users are simultaneously using this Virtual Desktop the
>>> load on the VM increases so cloudstanck spawns another VM to share the
>> load
>>> of these 10 users to 5 each on these two VMs created. I hope my doubt is
>>> clear.
>>
>> Yep - XenDesktop will do that for ya. :)
>>
>> John
Re: Desktop as a service
Posted by Ignazio Cassano <ig...@gmail.com>.
Hi, if you do not want to modify acs to add spice support you could use
ovirt : it is not a desktop as a service platform but it let you to add
some user permissions and it supports spice.
Regards
Ignazio
Il giorno 10/dic/2014 17:29, "Nux!" <nu...@li.nux.ro> ha scritto:
> Until ACS supports Spice, if ever, I think you're better off with "on-VM"
> softare such RDP for Windows and X2GO/NX for Linux.
>
> HTH
> Lucian
>
> --
> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
>
> Nux!
> www.nux.ro
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tilak Raj Singh" <ti...@gmail.com>
> > To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> > Sent: Tuesday, 9 December, 2014 19:37:55
> > Subject: Re: Desktop as a service
>
> > Hello John,
> >
> > Thanks for your reply. Have looked at XenDesktop but I am looking for
> some
> > open source alternative to this..Is there something else available for
> such
> > tasks which can be used for both windows and Linux...
> > I found a few alternatives like spice (http://www.spice-space.org/),
> apache
> > VCL (http://vcl.apache.org/) and cantivo (http://cantivo.org/)
> > I wished to know if any of these an be used with cloudstack? If yes then
> > can someone please guide me how to do that?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:43 AM, John Kinsella <jl...@stratosec.co> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> > On Dec 5, 2014, at 11:08 PM, Tilak Raj Singh <ti...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hello Everybody,
> >> >
> >> > I am new to cloudstack so I dont know if I am going off the topic
> here. I
> >> > wished to know how to setup Virtual Desktop Interface (VDI) using
> >> > cloudstack. I browsed the net and found that openstack has the
> >> capabilities
> >> > to setup this feature. Does cloudstack can be used to deploy such a
> >> > service? If yes some links for the same would be highly appreciated.
> Also
> >> > if cloudstack does not have that capability then is there some
> >> alternative
> >> > to this?
> >>
> >> Hi and welcome! CloudStack can be used with Citrix XenDesktop and
> XenApp
> >> to provide VDI services for users. It’s covered in the XenDesktop
> >> install/setup docs (just replace CloudPlatform with CloudStack)
> >>
> >> > Another thing I wanted to know is how to instantiate virtual machines
> >> > automatically if the load is increased. Have read about load balancing
> >> and
> >> > I guess its regarding this only.
> >>
> >> If you mean for VDI, XenDesktop can manage this once connected to
> >> CloudStack. If you mean outside of that setup, the phrase you’re looking
> >> for is “autoscaling.” Currently it works with either NetScaler load
> >> balancers or XenServer virtualization.
> >>
> >> > The architecture I wish to setup is to provide VDI to several users on
> >> > demand via browsers, where the compute is done on the virtual
> machines.
> >> Now
> >> > when suppose 10 users are simultaneously using this Virtual Desktop
> the
> >> > load on the VM increases so cloudstanck spawns another VM to share the
> >> load
> >> > of these 10 users to 5 each on these two VMs created. I hope my doubt
> is
> >> > clear.
> >>
> >> Yep - XenDesktop will do that for ya. :)
> >>
> > > John
>
Re: Desktop as a service
Posted by Nux! <nu...@li.nux.ro>.
Until ACS supports Spice, if ever, I think you're better off with "on-VM" softare such RDP for Windows and X2GO/NX for Linux.
HTH
Lucian
--
Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
Nux!
www.nux.ro
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tilak Raj Singh" <ti...@gmail.com>
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Sent: Tuesday, 9 December, 2014 19:37:55
> Subject: Re: Desktop as a service
> Hello John,
>
> Thanks for your reply. Have looked at XenDesktop but I am looking for some
> open source alternative to this..Is there something else available for such
> tasks which can be used for both windows and Linux...
> I found a few alternatives like spice (http://www.spice-space.org/), apache
> VCL (http://vcl.apache.org/) and cantivo (http://cantivo.org/)
> I wished to know if any of these an be used with cloudstack? If yes then
> can someone please guide me how to do that?
>
> Regards
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:43 AM, John Kinsella <jl...@stratosec.co> wrote:
>
>>
>> > On Dec 5, 2014, at 11:08 PM, Tilak Raj Singh <ti...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello Everybody,
>> >
>> > I am new to cloudstack so I dont know if I am going off the topic here. I
>> > wished to know how to setup Virtual Desktop Interface (VDI) using
>> > cloudstack. I browsed the net and found that openstack has the
>> capabilities
>> > to setup this feature. Does cloudstack can be used to deploy such a
>> > service? If yes some links for the same would be highly appreciated. Also
>> > if cloudstack does not have that capability then is there some
>> alternative
>> > to this?
>>
>> Hi and welcome! CloudStack can be used with Citrix XenDesktop and XenApp
>> to provide VDI services for users. It’s covered in the XenDesktop
>> install/setup docs (just replace CloudPlatform with CloudStack)
>>
>> > Another thing I wanted to know is how to instantiate virtual machines
>> > automatically if the load is increased. Have read about load balancing
>> and
>> > I guess its regarding this only.
>>
>> If you mean for VDI, XenDesktop can manage this once connected to
>> CloudStack. If you mean outside of that setup, the phrase you’re looking
>> for is “autoscaling.” Currently it works with either NetScaler load
>> balancers or XenServer virtualization.
>>
>> > The architecture I wish to setup is to provide VDI to several users on
>> > demand via browsers, where the compute is done on the virtual machines.
>> Now
>> > when suppose 10 users are simultaneously using this Virtual Desktop the
>> > load on the VM increases so cloudstanck spawns another VM to share the
>> load
>> > of these 10 users to 5 each on these two VMs created. I hope my doubt is
>> > clear.
>>
>> Yep - XenDesktop will do that for ya. :)
>>
> > John
Re: Desktop as a service
Posted by Tilak Raj Singh <ti...@gmail.com>.
Hello John,
Thanks for your reply. Have looked at XenDesktop but I am looking for some
open source alternative to this..Is there something else available for such
tasks which can be used for both windows and Linux...
I found a few alternatives like spice (http://www.spice-space.org/), apache
VCL (http://vcl.apache.org/) and cantivo (http://cantivo.org/)
I wished to know if any of these an be used with cloudstack? If yes then
can someone please guide me how to do that?
Regards
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:43 AM, John Kinsella <jl...@stratosec.co> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 5, 2014, at 11:08 PM, Tilak Raj Singh <ti...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Everybody,
> >
> > I am new to cloudstack so I dont know if I am going off the topic here. I
> > wished to know how to setup Virtual Desktop Interface (VDI) using
> > cloudstack. I browsed the net and found that openstack has the
> capabilities
> > to setup this feature. Does cloudstack can be used to deploy such a
> > service? If yes some links for the same would be highly appreciated. Also
> > if cloudstack does not have that capability then is there some
> alternative
> > to this?
>
> Hi and welcome! CloudStack can be used with Citrix XenDesktop and XenApp
> to provide VDI services for users. It’s covered in the XenDesktop
> install/setup docs (just replace CloudPlatform with CloudStack)
>
> > Another thing I wanted to know is how to instantiate virtual machines
> > automatically if the load is increased. Have read about load balancing
> and
> > I guess its regarding this only.
>
> If you mean for VDI, XenDesktop can manage this once connected to
> CloudStack. If you mean outside of that setup, the phrase you’re looking
> for is “autoscaling.” Currently it works with either NetScaler load
> balancers or XenServer virtualization.
>
> > The architecture I wish to setup is to provide VDI to several users on
> > demand via browsers, where the compute is done on the virtual machines.
> Now
> > when suppose 10 users are simultaneously using this Virtual Desktop the
> > load on the VM increases so cloudstanck spawns another VM to share the
> load
> > of these 10 users to 5 each on these two VMs created. I hope my doubt is
> > clear.
>
> Yep - XenDesktop will do that for ya. :)
>
> John
Re: Desktop as a service
Posted by John Kinsella <jl...@stratosec.co>.
> On Dec 5, 2014, at 11:08 PM, Tilak Raj Singh <ti...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Everybody,
>
> I am new to cloudstack so I dont know if I am going off the topic here. I
> wished to know how to setup Virtual Desktop Interface (VDI) using
> cloudstack. I browsed the net and found that openstack has the capabilities
> to setup this feature. Does cloudstack can be used to deploy such a
> service? If yes some links for the same would be highly appreciated. Also
> if cloudstack does not have that capability then is there some alternative
> to this?
Hi and welcome! CloudStack can be used with Citrix XenDesktop and XenApp to provide VDI services for users. It’s covered in the XenDesktop install/setup docs (just replace CloudPlatform with CloudStack)
> Another thing I wanted to know is how to instantiate virtual machines
> automatically if the load is increased. Have read about load balancing and
> I guess its regarding this only.
If you mean for VDI, XenDesktop can manage this once connected to CloudStack. If you mean outside of that setup, the phrase you’re looking for is “autoscaling.” Currently it works with either NetScaler load balancers or XenServer virtualization.
> The architecture I wish to setup is to provide VDI to several users on
> demand via browsers, where the compute is done on the virtual machines. Now
> when suppose 10 users are simultaneously using this Virtual Desktop the
> load on the VM increases so cloudstanck spawns another VM to share the load
> of these 10 users to 5 each on these two VMs created. I hope my doubt is
> clear.
Yep - XenDesktop will do that for ya. :)
John