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Network Setup
All,
>From the documentation, VCL has to have two networks, Private and Public. My question is can they be setup within VMware where the public IP can routed through the eth0 and get a DHCP address and the private IP can be routed through a vSwitch?
Do all of you have two vlans provided by a physical switch?
Any info would be helpful.
Arbin Darren Sanders
IT Manager - Academic Computing
North Carolina Central University
712 Cecil Street
Suite 3014
Durham, NC 27707
919.530.6307
919.530.5097 (Fax)
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Re: Network Setup
Posted by Josh Thompson <jo...@ncsu.edu>.
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Arbin,
Generally, public addresses are handled by a DHCP server. However, if one it
not available, VCL can manage the public addresses directly. So, VCL does not
always expect to manage the external addresses.
I'm not that strong with VMware, but I believe both the public and private
networks will need to go through vSwitches. However, you should be able to
set up those vSwitches so that they are both connected to the same physical
NIC with one of them set up to be on a separate VLAN.
Josh
On Monday, June 04, 2012 8:03:18 AM Mark Gardner wrote:
> Arbin,
>
> I have a little VCL playground set up on a Dell desktop configured
> similarly to what you described. The public network is on a vSwitch that
> routes through eth0, but it has a single static IP assigned to it so I
> don't use DHCP. The private network is only connected via a (different)
> vSwitch.
>
> I think the challenge will come in with the DHCP part. I believe the VCL
> software expects to manage the assignment of external IP addresses to VMs.
> In other words, it assumes a block of routable IPv4 addresses are assigned
> to it to manage. Hence a DHCP server on the external network would conflict
> with the VCL management of those addresses. Someone with more experience
> setting things up could tell you for sure but that is how I understand it
> to work.
>
> Mark
>
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Sanders, Arbin D <as...@nccu.edu> wrote:
> > All,****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > From the documentation, VCL has to have two networks, Private and Public.
> > My question is can they be setup within VMware where the public IP can
> > routed through the eth0 and get a DHCP address and the private IP can be
> > routed through a vSwitch?****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Do all of you have two vlans provided by a physical switch?****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Any info would be helpful.****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > *Arbin Darren Sanders*****
> >
> > ****
> >
> > IT Manager – Academic Computing****
> >
> > North Carolina Central University****
> >
> > 712 Cecil Street****
> >
> > Suite 3014****
> >
> > Durham, NC 27707****
> >
> > 919.530.6307****
> >
> > 919.530.5097 (Fax)****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > *For the Latest ITS Updates and Tips Join Us Online** ** **[image:
> > Description: Description: Description: Description:
> > cid:image003.png@01CB6AD0.97665900]*<http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?i
> > df100342#!/pages/Durham-NC/NCCU-Eagle-Technical-Assistance-Center-ETAC/2
> > 49508718552?v=info> * *[image: Description: Description: Description:
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> > <http://twitter.com/NCCUETAC>****>
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Re: Network Setup
Posted by Josh Thompson <jo...@ncsu.edu>.
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Arbin,
Generally, public addresses are handled by a DHCP server. However, if one it
not available, VCL can manage the public addresses directly. So, VCL does not
always expect to manage the external addresses.
I'm not that strong with VMware, but I believe both the public and private
networks will need to go through vSwitches. However, you should be able to
set up those vSwitches so that they are both connected to the same physical
NIC with one of them set up to be on a separate VLAN.
Josh
On Monday, June 04, 2012 8:03:18 AM Mark Gardner wrote:
> Arbin,
>
> I have a little VCL playground set up on a Dell desktop configured
> similarly to what you described. The public network is on a vSwitch that
> routes through eth0, but it has a single static IP assigned to it so I
> don't use DHCP. The private network is only connected via a (different)
> vSwitch.
>
> I think the challenge will come in with the DHCP part. I believe the VCL
> software expects to manage the assignment of external IP addresses to VMs.
> In other words, it assumes a block of routable IPv4 addresses are assigned
> to it to manage. Hence a DHCP server on the external network would conflict
> with the VCL management of those addresses. Someone with more experience
> setting things up could tell you for sure but that is how I understand it
> to work.
>
> Mark
>
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Sanders, Arbin D <as...@nccu.edu> wrote:
> > All,****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > From the documentation, VCL has to have two networks, Private and Public.
> > My question is can they be setup within VMware where the public IP can
> > routed through the eth0 and get a DHCP address and the private IP can be
> > routed through a vSwitch?****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Do all of you have two vlans provided by a physical switch?****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Any info would be helpful.****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > *Arbin Darren Sanders*****
> >
> > ****
> >
> > IT Manager – Academic Computing****
> >
> > North Carolina Central University****
> >
> > 712 Cecil Street****
> >
> > Suite 3014****
> >
> > Durham, NC 27707****
> >
> > 919.530.6307****
> >
> > 919.530.5097 (Fax)****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > *For the Latest ITS Updates and Tips Join Us Online** ** **[image:
> > Description: Description: Description: Description:
> > cid:image003.png@01CB6AD0.97665900]*<http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?i
> > df100342#!/pages/Durham-NC/NCCU-Eagle-Technical-Assistance-Center-ETAC/2
> > 49508718552?v=info> * *[image: Description: Description: Description:
> > Description: cid:image004.png@01CB6AD0.97665900]
> > <http://twitter.com/NCCUETAC>****>
> > ****
> >
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VCL Developer
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Re: Network Setup
Posted by Mark Gardner <mk...@vt.edu>.
Arbin,
I have a little VCL playground set up on a Dell desktop configured
similarly to what you described. The public network is on a vSwitch that
routes through eth0, but it has a single static IP assigned to it so I
don't use DHCP. The private network is only connected via a (different)
vSwitch.
I think the challenge will come in with the DHCP part. I believe the VCL
software expects to manage the assignment of external IP addresses to VMs.
In other words, it assumes a block of routable IPv4 addresses are assigned
to it to manage. Hence a DHCP server on the external network would conflict
with the VCL management of those addresses. Someone with more experience
setting things up could tell you for sure but that is how I understand it
to work.
Mark
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Sanders, Arbin D <as...@nccu.edu> wrote:
> All,****
>
> ** **
>
> From the documentation, VCL has to have two networks, Private and Public.
> My question is can they be setup within VMware where the public IP can
> routed through the eth0 and get a DHCP address and the private IP can be
> routed through a vSwitch?****
>
> ** **
>
> Do all of you have two vlans provided by a physical switch?****
>
> ** **
>
> Any info would be helpful.****
>
> ** **
>
> *Arbin Darren Sanders*****
>
> ****
>
> IT Manager – Academic Computing****
>
> North Carolina Central University****
>
> 712 Cecil Street****
>
> Suite 3014****
>
> Durham, NC 27707****
>
> 919.530.6307****
>
> 919.530.5097 (Fax)****
>
> ** **
>
> *For the Latest ITS Updates and Tips Join Us Online** ** **[image:
> Description: Description: Description: Description:
> cid:image003.png@01CB6AD0.97665900]*<http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=66100342#!/pages/Durham-NC/NCCU-Eagle-Technical-Assistance-Center-ETAC/249508718552?v=info>
> * *[image: Description: Description: Description: Description:
> cid:image004.png@01CB6AD0.97665900] <http://twitter.com/NCCUETAC>****
>
> ****
>
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Re: Network Setup
Posted by Mark Gardner <mk...@vt.edu>.
Arbin,
I have a little VCL playground set up on a Dell desktop configured
similarly to what you described. The public network is on a vSwitch that
routes through eth0, but it has a single static IP assigned to it so I
don't use DHCP. The private network is only connected via a (different)
vSwitch.
I think the challenge will come in with the DHCP part. I believe the VCL
software expects to manage the assignment of external IP addresses to VMs.
In other words, it assumes a block of routable IPv4 addresses are assigned
to it to manage. Hence a DHCP server on the external network would conflict
with the VCL management of those addresses. Someone with more experience
setting things up could tell you for sure but that is how I understand it
to work.
Mark
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Sanders, Arbin D <as...@nccu.edu> wrote:
> All,****
>
> ** **
>
> From the documentation, VCL has to have two networks, Private and Public.
> My question is can they be setup within VMware where the public IP can
> routed through the eth0 and get a DHCP address and the private IP can be
> routed through a vSwitch?****
>
> ** **
>
> Do all of you have two vlans provided by a physical switch?****
>
> ** **
>
> Any info would be helpful.****
>
> ** **
>
> *Arbin Darren Sanders*****
>
> ****
>
> IT Manager – Academic Computing****
>
> North Carolina Central University****
>
> 712 Cecil Street****
>
> Suite 3014****
>
> Durham, NC 27707****
>
> 919.530.6307****
>
> 919.530.5097 (Fax)****
>
> ** **
>
> *For the Latest ITS Updates and Tips Join Us Online** ** **[image:
> Description: Description: Description: Description:
> cid:image003.png@01CB6AD0.97665900]*<http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=66100342#!/pages/Durham-NC/NCCU-Eagle-Technical-Assistance-Center-ETAC/249508718552?v=info>
> * *[image: Description: Description: Description: Description:
> cid:image004.png@01CB6AD0.97665900] <http://twitter.com/NCCUETAC>****
>
> ****
>
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