"Real" JSP Generator?

[Jochen Kuhnle <li...@kuhnle.net>]

Hi,

I'd like to know if somebody has thought about or implemented a "real" JSP 
generator for Cocoon, e.g. one that doesn't delegate the work to the 
servlet container, but does the work by itself. Reasons for having this:

1. XSP and JXTG are good, but JSP is the standard...

2. If the JSP generator compiles code that directly generates SAX events, 
the JSP output need not be parsed, so we might gain some speed...

Regards,
Jochen

Re: "Real" JSP Generator?

[Vadim Gritsenko <va...@reverycodes.com>]

Tony Collen wrote:
> Torsten Curdt wrote:
> 
>>> 1. XSP and JXTG are good, but JSP is the standard...
>>
>>
>> Standard does not always necessarily mean better ;)
> 
> 
> This has some truth, but unforutunately if companies were interested in 
> better, they wouldn't still be using Struts.
> 
> Sometimes technical decisions come from the top and not from the 
> "trenches" ... which is why there's no chance of me getting Cocoon in 
> the door at my new-ish job, and we're considering JSF for future 
> development :/

Sometimes you can compromise: management knows that you are using JSF, and "in 
the trenches" everybody is happy because they are using Cocoon.


> Just had to chime in :)

Just had to share the experience :-)

Vadim


> Tony
> 
>>
>>> 2. If the JSP generator compiles code that directly generates SAX 
>>> events, the JSP output need not be parsed, so we might gain some 
>>> speed...
>>
>>
>> If you feel the need ...feel free to implement it :)
>>
>> cheers
>> -- 
>> Torsten

Re: "Real" JSP Generator?

[Torsten Curdt <tc...@apache.org>]

>> Standard does not always necessarily mean better ;)
> 
> 
> This has some truth, but unforutunately if companies were interested in
> better, they wouldn't still be using Struts.

lol

> Sometimes technical decisions come from the top and not from the
> "trenches"

*sigh* ...I hear you!

cheers
--
Torsten

Re: "Real" JSP Generator?

[Tony Collen <co...@umn.edu>]

Torsten Curdt wrote:
>>1. XSP and JXTG are good, but JSP is the standard...
> 
> 
> Standard does not always necessarily mean better ;)

This has some truth, but unforutunately if companies were interested in 
better, they wouldn't still be using Struts.

Sometimes technical decisions come from the top and not from the 
"trenches" ... which is why there's no chance of me getting Cocoon in 
the door at my new-ish job, and we're considering JSF for future 
development :/

Just had to chime in :)

Tony

> 
> 
>>2. If the JSP generator compiles code that directly generates SAX events, 
>>the JSP output need not be parsed, so we might gain some speed...
> 
> 
> If you feel the need ...feel free to implement it :)
> 
> cheers
> --
> Torsten

Re: "Real" JSP Generator?

[Torsten Curdt <tc...@apache.org>]

> 1. XSP and JXTG are good, but JSP is the standard...

Standard does not always necessarily mean better ;)

> 2. If the JSP generator compiles code that directly generates SAX events, 
> the JSP output need not be parsed, so we might gain some speed...

If you feel the need ...feel free to implement it :)

cheers
--
Torsten