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Posted to log4cxx-user@logging.apache.org by Anand Sherkhane <an...@gmail.com> on 2007/03/29 11:54:21 UTC

Official word on next release of log4cxx

Hi,

I was using log4cxx 0.9.7 and during trial runs, it started crashing. Our
customer got paranoid when he read following statement at
http://logging.apache.org/log4cxx:


Regards,
Anand.

Re: Official word on next release of log4cxx

Posted by Curt Arnold <ca...@apache.org>.
On Mar 29, 2007, at 5:07 AM, Anand Sherkhane wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm terribly sorry for my incomplete previous mail(my browser has  
> mapped few keys and it was sent accidentally)
> Here it is again.
>
> I was using log4cxx v0.9.7 and during trial runs, it started  
> crashing(I think the reason was as mentioned in http:// 
> issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOGCXX-4).
> Our customer got skeptical(obviously) when he read following  
> statement at http://logging.apache.org/log4cxx :
> "At this point, log4cxx-0.9.7 is substantially out of date, has  
> known serious deficiencies that have been resolved in the CVS, and  
> should be avoided for new code"
>
> He even suggested to switch to another logging framework.
>
> We convinced them that we can use a newer version of log4cxx and  
> everything will work fine. I switched to log4cxx v0.10.0 and its  
> working fine. However, there is no official word on this release.
>
> How do I justify to our customers the use of this log4cxx version.
>
> Is there any tentative date for official new release. Even a  
> clarification on this thread from log4cxx team that log4cxx v0.10.0  
> is stable enough for use in production systems will be sufficient  
> for me for time being(until Apache makes it official).
>
> Regards,
> Anand.
> P.S. I'm sorry if this mail does not belong to this mailing list.  
> Please suggest me an appropriate place to post this query.
>

Almost all the the essential tasks to finally prepare a release  
candidate have been knocked out.  All that is necessary is some  
dedicated time to work on packaging, unfortunately that has been in  
short supply.

Once a release candidate is built, then there is a voting process  
with the Logging Services PMC.  A recent log4j release candidate  
stalled in the PMC voting phase due to too few votes.  A log4cxx  
release is likely to be harder to get through the PMC for a variety  
of reasons.  The 0.9.7 "release" predates log4cxx moving into the ASF  
and was not held to the same degree of scrutiny.

The log4cxx "team" is unlikely ever to make a statement of the  
appropriateness of the software for any particular use since that  
might be implied as a warrantee of some sort.  If you search the  
log4cxx-dev and log4cxx-user mailing list for "production", you will  
find statements of people who are using log4cxx in high volume  
systems.  However, the implementation quality may vary from appender  
to appender, so you should not reconfigure log4cxx to use an appender  
that you have not tested during production.




Re: Official word on next release of log4cxx

Posted by Anand Sherkhane <an...@gmail.com>.
Hi,

I'm terribly sorry for my incomplete previous mail(my browser has mapped few
keys and it was sent accidentally)
Here it is again.

I was using log4cxx v0.9.7 and during trial runs, it started crashing(I
think the reason was as mentioned in
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOGCXX-4).
Our customer got skeptical(obviously) when he read following statement at
http://logging.apache.org/log4cxx:
"At this point, log4cxx-0.9.7 is substantially out of date, has known
serious deficiencies that have been resolved in the CVS, and should be
avoided for new code"

He even suggested to switch to another logging framework.

We convinced them that we can use a newer version of log4cxx and everything
will work fine. I switched to log4cxx v0.10.0 and its working fine. However,
there is no official word on this release.

How do I justify to our customers the use of this log4cxx version.

Is there any tentative date for official new release. Even a clarification
on this thread from log4cxx team that log4cxx v0.10.0 is stable enough for
use in production systems will be sufficient for me for time being(until
Apache makes it official).

Regards,
Anand.
P.S. I'm sorry if this mail does not belong to this mailing list. Please
suggest me an appropriate place to post this query.

On 3/29/07, Anand Sherkhane <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I was using log4cxx 0.9.7 and during trial runs, it started crashing. Our
> customer got paranoid when he read following statement at
> http://logging.apache.org/log4cxx :
>
>
> Regards,
> Anand.
>
>