Re: State of Slide project

[Oliver Zeigermann <ol...@gmail.com>]

They disappeared one after another after learning about the complexity
of the Slide code. As discussed in another thread OS is about fun and
passion. It is hard to keep up fun with such a complicated and
partially confusing code base, though. If Slide was a commercial
project it would certainly be kept going....

Oliver

2006/7/31, Henning Schmiedehausen <hp...@intermeta.de>:
> This raises an interesting question:
>
> Before the umbrella permissions for Jakarta were installed, slide had
> (and probably still has but without the subversion access file it is
> much harder to find out :-( ) 33 (!) committers with write access.
>
> Where did all these people go?
>
>         Best regards
>                 Henning
>
> On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 08:44 -0400, Darren Hartford wrote:
> > Hello all,
> > I've been watching Slide for close to two years as a user/integrator for
> > document & content management.  Here is my two cents as an end-user of
> > the project:
> >
> > *WebDAV is great for document and content management, and Jakarta Slide
> > is the only project that fully supports this.  The JCR may be nice, but
> > it is java-specific and when dealing with document & content management,
> > WebDAV is language agnostic and a better approach.  There are also a lot
> > of tools that recognize and use WebDAV and not JCR (including .NET
> > support for WebDAV).
> >
> > *Mailing List usage is dwindling, but I believe it is not because people
> > don't want the project to thrive as much as frustration with the mailing
> > list. There have been some key individuals (like Oliver) who have
> > definitely helped, but they are few.
> >
> > *Part of the problem is that Jakarta Slide codebase is extremely
> > abstracted and complex to follow -- not that abstract hasn't benefited
> > it, but it is difficult for people to get started/understand the
> > codebase.  As for usage/configuration, examples of full implementations
> > don't exist, only snippets that don't necessarily correlate with other
> > snippets.  Although once someone has digested all the snippets they can
> > move forward, someone new would find this daunting.
> >
> > *Jakarta Slide is dormant - there have been a number of key and very
> > important fixes and enhancements made since the 2004 release of slide
> > 2.1, but these enhancements and fixes continue to be only within the SCM
> > -- no releases have been made with these changes leaving users forced to
> > always build from the SCM to get these fixes and features -- new users
> > not familiar with Slide or the process may have poor impressions based
> > on the 2004 binary versus what is available in the SCM.  Also, dormant
> > from the standpoint of a number of bugs left in bugzilla.
> >
> > *Jackrabbit vs Slide - I am looking forward to transistion to
> > Jackrabbit, but **the Slide project must maintain visibility until
> > Jackrabbit can equally support WebDAV**, this includes the DASL
> > <basicsearch> searching component that is a recognized standard.  Yes, I
> > recognize the JCR does support Xquery, but tools that work with WebDAV
> > (i.e. web publishing tools both open source and commercial, document
> > management/knowledge management solutions using WebDAV repositories)
> > don't support this, and for document & content management the DASL
> > <basicsearch> and the rest of WebDAV are a requirement.
> >
> > In summary, please keep Jakarta Slide visible until the Jackrabbit
> > project can replace the WebDAV functionality found in Slide.  In
> > addition, a transition tool to move Jakarta Slide repositories to
> > Jackrabbit would be a huge benefit to those users out there still using
> > Slide.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > -D
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