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[jira] [Created] (ANY23-3) add support for N3

add support for N3
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                 Key: ANY23-3
                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ANY23-3
             Project: Apache Any23
          Issue Type: New Feature
            Reporter: Lewis John McGibbney
            Priority: Minor


Add support for Notation3[1] format.

[1] http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Notation3

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[jira] [Commented] (ANY23-3) add support for N3

Posted by "Paolo Castagna (Commented) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Paolo Castagna commented on ANY23-3:
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> Is Any23 interested in the non-RDF components of N3? 

Good question, Any23 should not be interested in non-RDF components of N3 and/or in N3, since it does not seem to produce anything that is not RDF.
Microdata and RDFa give you RDF.

Lewis, perhaps as Peter noted, you meant Turtle instead of N3 here. (The difference is important, but from a first look not so clear and people get confused or assume, wrongly, that N3 and Turtle are the same).
                
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>                 Key: ANY23-3
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ANY23-3
>             Project: Apache Any23
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>    Affects Versions: 0.7.0
>            Reporter: Lewis John McGibbney
>            Priority: Minor
>             Fix For: 0.8.0
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> Add support for Notation3[1] format.
> [1] http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Notation3

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[jira] [Commented] (ANY23-3) add support for N3

Posted by "Peter Ansell (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Peter Ansell commented on ANY23-3:
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Supporting N3 fully is not possible with the current sesame-rio-n3 parser, as it is merely a wrapper for the sesame-rio-turtle parser. Until N3, Turtle and NTriples go through standardisation and the exact relationship of N3 to both Turtle and NTriples is defined (as the current 28 March 2011 W3C Team Submission does not define the relationship exactly [1]), then it is difficult to say what the RDF subset of N3 is.

If in doubt I suggest that Any23 should remove the reference to fully supporting N3 and focus on supporting Turtle (as the defacto RDF subset of N3), while still recognising the common N3 MIME-types (both text/n3 and text/rdf+n3) and attempting to parse N3 documents using the sesame-rio-n3 parser to get a future benefit from any subsequent changes to the N3 specification that may introduce RDF-compatible features that are not in Turtle.

[1] http://www.w3.org/TeamSubmission/2011/SUBM-n3-20110328/#subsets
                
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>                 Key: ANY23-3
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ANY23-3
>             Project: Apache Any23
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>    Affects Versions: 0.7.0
>            Reporter: Lewis John McGibbney
>            Priority: Minor
>             Fix For: 0.8.0
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> Add support for Notation3[1] format.
> [1] http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Notation3

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[jira] [Commented] (ANY23-3) add support for N3

Posted by "Lewis John McGibbney (Commented) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Lewis John McGibbney commented on ANY23-3:
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Hi Paolo. I ported this issue over to Jira fromt he Googlecode issue tracker so it was not originally my issue. My own particular concern for this though, is that on our project description we cite Notation 3 as one of the input formats that we are able to parse...
If this is not the case then we should work towards supporting this within the parsing remit, however as you mention guys, if fully supporting N3 means supporting non-rdf material then maybe we should reconsider.
                
> add support for N3
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>                 Key: ANY23-3
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ANY23-3
>             Project: Apache Any23
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>    Affects Versions: 0.7.0
>            Reporter: Lewis John McGibbney
>            Priority: Minor
>             Fix For: 0.8.0
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> Add support for Notation3[1] format.
> [1] http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Notation3

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[jira] [Commented] (ANY23-3) add support for N3

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Lewis John McGibbney commented on ANY23-3:
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Is this not addressed?
                
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>                 Key: ANY23-3
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ANY23-3
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>            Reporter: Lewis John McGibbney
>            Priority: Minor
>             Fix For: 0.7.0
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> Add support for Notation3[1] format.
> [1] http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Notation3

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[jira] [Updated] (ANY23-3) add support for N3

Posted by "Lewis John McGibbney (Updated) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Lewis John McGibbney updated ANY23-3:
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    Fix Version/s:     (was: 0.7.0)
                   0.8.0
    
> add support for N3
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>                 Key: ANY23-3
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ANY23-3
>             Project: Apache Any23
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>    Affects Versions: 0.7.0
>            Reporter: Lewis John McGibbney
>            Priority: Minor
>             Fix For: 0.8.0
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> Add support for Notation3[1] format.
> [1] http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Notation3

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[jira] [Commented] (ANY23-3) add support for N3

Posted by "Peter Ansell (Commented) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Peter Ansell commented on ANY23-3:
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Are there any full N3 implementations in Java? 

Sesame and Jena both parse the RDF subset, but not the full N3 grammar. In practice, the RDF subset amounts to Turtle.

Is Any23 interested in the non-RDF components of N3?
                
> add support for N3
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>                 Key: ANY23-3
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ANY23-3
>             Project: Apache Any23
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>    Affects Versions: 0.7.0
>            Reporter: Lewis John McGibbney
>            Priority: Minor
>             Fix For: 0.8.0
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> Add support for Notation3[1] format.
> [1] http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Notation3

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[jira] [Updated] (ANY23-3) add support for N3

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Lewis John McGibbney updated ANY23-3:
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    Affects Version/s: 0.7.0
        Fix Version/s: 0.7.0
    
> add support for N3
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>
>                 Key: ANY23-3
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ANY23-3
>             Project: Apache Any23
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>    Affects Versions: 0.7.0
>            Reporter: Lewis John McGibbney
>            Priority: Minor
>             Fix For: 0.7.0
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> Add support for Notation3[1] format.
> [1] http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Notation3

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