Re: proposal: web design contest

[Justin Mason <jm...@jmason.org>]

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Daniel Quinlan writes:
> Okay, I moved the contest description draft into the wiki with a
> prominent note that the contest has not started.  I added a few
> additional requirements and judging parameters and also put on a
> tentative finish date of March 31, 2005.
> 
>   http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/SiteContest
> 
> I'm hoping the silence indicates lots of agreement, but since this is a
> rather big thing, can I get a few +1s on this one?

Some notes:

- - I'd presume you intend it to be a static site; no dynamic
  (CGI/mod_perl/PHP/whatever) components.   If so, say so; the page
  doesn't mention it. 
  
  I hope that's the case, btw, as moving to something like postnuke would
  mean security nightmares, slowness, vulnerability to slashdotting, and
  no ability to make changes remotely and offline using svn.  I'd be
  -1 on that.

- - the "more standard set of top-level pages" doesn't seem to relate to our
  content very well.   Unless you want the web designer to also rewrite
  the content text, I don't think that's a good suggestion.   If you *do*
  want them to do that, then point that out ;)

- - I'd prefer to move more stuff into the wiki, myself.

I'm pretty underwhelmed as to whether this is a priority, overall.

- --j.
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Re: proposal: web design contest

[Duncan Findlay <du...@debian.org>]

On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 01:57:33PM -0800, Daniel Quinlan wrote:
> > - - the "more standard set of top-level pages" doesn't seem to relate to our
> >   content very well.   Unless you want the web designer to also rewrite
> >   the content text, I don't think that's a good suggestion.   If you *do*
> >   want them to do that, then point that out ;)
> 
> I think some restructuring will do most of the job with rewrites so
> things make sense, but if someone does a more complete rewrite and the
> effect is good, of course I'd like it.

I'm not convinced the titles you selected are really appropriate for
an Open Source website. Perhaps that's something you'd like to leave
to the author?

Maybe we can also reserve the right to mix and match parts of
submissions? Like if we like 1 person's layout but another person's
content.

I'm +1 on the idea.

-- 
Duncan Findlay

Re: proposal: web design contest

[Daniel Quinlan <qu...@pathname.com>]

jm@jmason.org (Justin Mason) writes:

> - - I'd presume you intend it to be a static site; no dynamic
>   (CGI/mod_perl/PHP/whatever) components.   If so, say so; the page
>   doesn't mention it. 

Yes, definitely.  We don't need dynamic content.
   
>   I hope that's the case, btw, as moving to something like postnuke would
>   mean security nightmares, slowness, vulnerability to slashdotting, and
>   no ability to make changes remotely and offline using svn.  I'd be
>   -1 on that.

Agreed.
 
> - - the "more standard set of top-level pages" doesn't seem to relate to our
>   content very well.   Unless you want the web designer to also rewrite
>   the content text, I don't think that's a good suggestion.   If you *do*
>   want them to do that, then point that out ;)

I think some restructuring will do most of the job with rewrites so
things make sense, but if someone does a more complete rewrite and the
effect is good, of course I'd like it.
 
> - - I'd prefer to move more stuff into the wiki, myself.

Agreed, I want the main site to be top-level information that doesn't
change often.
 
> I'm pretty underwhelmed as to whether this is a priority, overall.

It's not critical, but I do think it's needed badly.

Daniel

-- 
Daniel Quinlan
http://www.pathname.com/~quinlan/